/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>8142594

Here's a link to the time machine: https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20170305/

>tfw only have $200K and not $5M

>>8142594
if you put $1000 in those coins today, 1 years time you will have $0

>>8142662
Uninronically this. This market is dead now.

>>8142594
I bought Tether 1 year ago and haven't seen a single ounce of gainz

>>8142594
LINK/ICX/ETH/BTC

>expecting the same gains ever later in the game
the absolute state of late adopters

>>8142705
Kek

>>8142594
PRL. Most of you niggers missed the initial moonshoot from ED to Kucoin though. Maybe x25 left till EOY

>>8142594
>there is a short combination of mouse clicks you could make RIGHT NOW to become a multimillionaire in under a year

No. Last year was unique. There will never be a boom like that again for a century, where you can 100x your wealth as by throwing darts at a board. Now we'll be lucky for 40-50% gains on the year.

>>8142786
people said this when btc hit 1k and then crashed and stayed under 1k for years after mt gox

>>8142808
But they were wrong then. They would be right now though. We already has mass "adoption" (protip: no one is going to adopt this shit) and a classic bubble burst in February. Every coin on cmc is overvalued by a factor of 1000 or more. It's over.

Already all in req

See you on the moon

>>8142594

$1000 invested in Link today will be worth minimum $200k exactly one year from now.

>>8142835
This is the most unconvincing thing I've ever read. It makes me want to put more fiat into crypto

>>8142746
bags getting heavy huh

>>8142786
There's literally no way to know this and your pessimism is in fact a buy signal.

>>8142835
is that what you tell yourself to cope with your personal failure

>>8142835

Saying that people will not "mass adopt" crypto is like saying people will never "mass adopt" 64-bit computing because math is too difficult for most people.

But nearly every single person in the developed world is using 64-bit computing on a daily basis without even knowing what it is, because smartphones have neatly packaged it behind a bunch of comfy interfaces for normies to use.

What if crypto/blockchain also became widespread back-end tech? Imagine that.

>>8142594
People will never forget both HPB and especially Banyan Network's inevitable run. You haven't even began to see the real giants in the Chinese blockchain system. The pieces are being put to place right in front of your eyes.

>>8142895
No, I already made money on crypto. It will still get better returns than stocks for a few years before the bubble truly collapses and cryptocurrencies lose 99% of their value, but anyone who thinks another 100x will happen for any token is deluded. It's over, face it.

>>8142915
It won't be, there are no real use cases for blockchain/DLT. The market is pure speculation, hype, and scamming.

>>8142949
I dont have a wojack to describe how stupid you are

>>8142594
>there is a short combination of mouse clicks you could make RIGHT NOW to become a multimillionaire in under a year
It's like a real life cheat code.

>>8142949
>there are no real use cases for blockchain

>>8142991
I've got you, buddy. Here's us.

>>8142949
>there are no real use cases
you were baiting decently before but now you're just trying too hard to seem like you have a mental disability.

>>8143082
Name one that isn't a scam.

>>8142737
People were saying this a year ago

JNT will be in the top 10, perhaps top 5 or even top 3.

>>8143095
Do you think there is any demand for a global 24/7 financial market?

>>8143540
Not in fake Internet money. The only point of this shit is to dump it on people for for money than you paid for it.

>>8142594
so what coins do i buy for one year from now?

>>8142949
>anyone who thinks another 100x will happen for any token is deluded. It's over, face it.

i've been hearing this for years now.

>>8143175
This.

>>8143278
if the market doesn't shrink I would literally jizz myself into a coma if that happened

real money is also intrinsically worthless, it only has value because we agree that it does

>>8143555
chainlink tbfh, everything else already mooned like fuck.

>>8143744

5-10x by EOY possibly 20+ within 2 years

Also most anons in this thread must be redditors and newfags because crypto is going to at least a 10-20 TRILLION market cap before bursting and if you are dumb enough to be fudded out of investing now because it is "too late" then you should just stop visiting /biz/ and go get a wagecuck job because that is all you will ever be good for.

>>8143626
Then prepare yourself. If you understand what it'll do and who is behind it it is the most guarantedd moon shot of the year, and probably ever.

>>8143838
Give me a quick rundown on JNT

>inb4 dyor

>>8143708
not enough people seem to grasp this
it's a simple thought but it should revolutionize the way that you invest

>>8144045
i want the bogpill on JNT too

>>8144045
JNT = CENTRALIZED FIAT TETHER COIN WITH AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNANCE. don't believe me? Watch box mining interview with JNT team member and compare fundamentals with decentralized bitcoin structure. On top of that it's based out of Dubai .. but they're trying to play it off as a Swiss coin lmao

>>8143832
Already bursted, faggot

>>8142594
What about verge?

>>8143832
What projects should I invest in? I have Chainlink and RLC.

>>8144199
bitbean

>>8142594
And here's the top 20 from 2014.

>>8142890
It's so fucking hilarious it's either this dude is a massive frothing retard, or it's FUD. It makes my day every time I see people mention this on /shillcentral/ and gives me hope every time I see it.

>>8144045
>>8144052
Basically, you'll be able to trade on-chain off-chain assets, it's the very first project that'll actually make big investors (hedge funds, banks or even central banks) earn more money thanks to blockchain technology.
JNT is just one (albeit central) piece of the equation, the token will either have its own blockchain in the future, move to another blockchain (they are currently running simulations with the NEO blockchain iirc) or become blockchain agnostic depending on what's better, it's not supposed to remain an erc20 token forever.
CryDRs are the most important part of the project and possibly the biggest innovation in the crypto-space since smart-contracts.
I'm phoneposting so that's all you'll get for now, I advise you to read the medium posts and some on their subreddit.

Also, they have Don Tapscott and Abbas Zuaiter as advisors, Da Hongfei and CZ spoke at their launch conference and they are already backed by the crown prince of Dubai and his $2.3 billion fun to pilot their project in the entire MENA region. Of the three founders, one managed more than 1.3 trillion of assets and the other several billions in one of the Saudi family funds, and the other is a blockchain genius.

>>8142949
Who....Who are you people? I refuse to accept you're not viral marketers there is NO WAY you people are real.

>>8144274
>confirmed redditor
Kys pajeet

>>8144280

What do you think of HPB?

I did not HODL

>>8144280
>>8144177

>>8144266
Quark is up 50% today

>>8142871
Not really, bought 10k for 1 eth. Hopefully 100k eoy

>>8144562
It's not based of out of Dubai, their main pffice is in Zug, Switzerland and they also have one in NYC, they have a PR office in China and in Korea and the crown prince of Dubai gave them an office in his fund building for their partnership.

>>8142835
This is what happens when a stupid person tries to sound intelligent.

>>8144433
I think it's ok but it doesn't bring anything really new to the table, it's yet another "same but better blockchain". The real moon missions of the following years will have to bring something new just like BTC was the first blockchain and ETH the first blockchain with smart contracts.
Look into Tomochain or Elastos also, both very good projects that I'd chose over HPB.

>>8144433
But I still think you'll make decent returns on investment if you put money into HPB, if you feel confident about it go for it.

>>8144339
>final tier
>Soy Grand Theory

wew

>>8142835
I heard that line many times last year.
you're going to be sad when the next run starts.

>>8145042
I'm all in though. The crypto bubble will still get better returns than stocks until it implodes in a few years. It might grow to 1-2 trillion before it finally collapses. I'm just not deluded enough to think that returns are going to be measured in x's anymore.

>>8144280

Thanks for this, kind Sheikh. I'll (actually) be looking into JNT soon. Seems like a better moon shot than many other options.

>>8145077

Look at how the marketcap is currently calculated and ask yourself if there is anything wrong with it.

I'll give you a hint, there is, and it only takes a few million dollars to pump a coin several billion in marketcap.

>>8144183

like it does every year you literal retard? neck yourself

>>8145199
I already said above that the marketcap is artificially inflated by at a factor of ~100-1000.

And retards here think they're still "early adopters" LMAO.

Holy shit you FUCKING RETARDS, you could've bought Ripple for LESS THAN A PENNY and sold it for THREE DOLLARS. YOU FUCKING RETARDS. KILL YOURSELVES, NOW. You are LATE. THREE DOLLAR LITECOIN, ARE YOU SEEING THAT, THREE FUCKING DOLLAR LITECOIN. IT WAS THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY LIKE SIX WEEKS AGO. YOU ARE LATE, ALL THE COINS ALREADY MOONED, ALL THE CRYPTO MILLIONAIRES HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE YOU FUCKING RETARDS. END YOUR LIVES, NOW.

>>8142594
>what coins are we going to be talking about next year?
OMNI. only those who know will make it.

universa

Thanks for this post.

Made me realized how over value cryptos are and that we it still need to be in despair stage.

>>8145165
Don't really bother about the shill threads or the telegram, they are filled with a bunch of autists that keep spamming. The telegram can be useful if you have a question, Talal (business lead and co-founder) usually answers pretty fast.

>>8145226
Don’t be an idiot. Those are huge percentages but that’s because we are that early. Look at market cap. Keep in mind we are in a global market cap

>>8142871
if PRL fails then I'm sorry about whatever fuckshitcoin you're holding buddy.

Cause It's probably, along with IOTA, the only thing that has a future.

The rest is a sea of 1500 shitcoins that:
1. Don't need a token
2. Don't "revolutionize" anything

Remember, education is important, get a real degree in engineering, computer science, etc. then you can make good calls like the rest of us who own PRL.

>>8145226
bitch i bought JNT for $.50 you faggot kys

>>8145429

Engineer here.

Can confirm PRL a shit coin

>>8145226
this
we have maybe another 2x left over 5 years before the market collapses.

>>8145429
>Along with IOTA

OMG, you think you're smart but you fell for that meme?

>>8145429
Actually on second thought, this coin doesnt look so bad on paper

Crypto bubble will burst when everybody is in fucking crypto... not everyone is in it.

Literal beanie baby retards will sell their house for a single bitcoin before we see the mother of all bubbles burst.

Greed > government ... 2008 should've taught you that.

Expect a great depression v2.0 to come shortly after.

>>8142662
This, lmao at permabulls who think market will just keep going up.

>>8144731
This is literally the only project using hardware for blockchain acceleration and also the only project in crypto that claims to have a partnership with Union Pay China. Did you do any research?

>>8142687
that's what they said a few years ago. foh, you stinky nigger.

Does nobody else realize that you have to find a shitcoin that has less than 15 million market cap and isn't a complete disaster if you want to make the same kind of gains next year? I feel like I'm the only one who sees this...

>>8145748
duh

>>8145748
Sherlocle. Which dookie coin is the question..

SO MANY, in no particular order-

ELA
LINK
OMG
NEO
NULS
GRAFT
SAY
OCN
JNT
NCASH
MWAT
NEX
PRL

God dam too many coins to keep up with honestly. Gonna go kms

>>8145748
>>8145825
Im going with telcoin. Same supply as XRP, XLM and TRX all which are valued at higher marketcaps. Tel can probably move up to a similar price eventually.

>>8143555
Wysker and VTR. Easy 100x each.

Verge was 2 sats... 1k last year = 2.6M now

if ELA does what the chinks say it does it will 100x even with 400m mcap

>>8145784
>>8145825
>>8145852

it's just everybody keeps skilling shit with more than a billion dollar market cap and it's like whyyyy..
>yea bro invest in the top 15 you can't lose!

wat?

>>8145881
Im sceptical honestly. Could of gotten in during ICO, 50% salty.

Dont think ill get in desu

>>8145910
Literally the point of this thread, if you had gone in on the top 15 you would of been a millionaire now.

>>8145748
Elix

>>8142662
>>8142687
>>8145612
>factom
you guys must hate enterprise solutions or be completely new. Literally everything could burn in value, but factom would still have about the same outlook.

>>8145748
MOre and more. The more time I spend on reddit the more I realize that they're all fucking dumb money bagholders. At least /biz/ gives us fresh shit from time to time.

nano was less than a penny in april (as far as cmc goes), imagine putting money in it, or better, imagine solving captchas to earn nano, certainly a better investment than solving captchas to shitpost on 4chan

>spend 4k on a bunch of coins and held them
>now has 1k in total

>knew bitcoin in january 2010
>simply ignored it
>read about it again in december 2012, and didn't bought a single one
>thought it would end as flash games pages currency (and only)
>2014 me: "this shit will end soon, it's useless"
>2018 me: "FUCK ME"

>>8145579
What MCAP do you think crypto will peak at?

>>8144266
>tfw shilled numerous people on Quark, none of whom take me seriously anymore

>>8143708
You don't know the difference between money and currency

>>8145748
PASC

guys the DMT machine elves told me to all in on JNT

should I???

>>8146028
people bought 4chan passes for like 1 btc when they first came out

>>8145226
this is the EXACT same shit people used to say when BTC hit $1k. Hell even I personally said it every fucking time

>>8145429
How fucking stupid do you have to be to throw money into an ERC20 coin with a dev wallet that's 1/3 of total supply? Does it take a picture of Ryan Gosling before you realize it's a scam? If you bought PRL just cash out. You're too stupid to make it in crypto

>>8146184
they control the universe brother, so i'm saying go for it

>>8146184
do it

Let me put you down, with my statement
The statement of truth
>1 year ago shitcoins worth cents are now 100x
>everyone and their mom knows this now
>the people that missed all think like OP now
>duurrrrr this year it'll happen again!!!
>everyone rushes to invest
>it stays where it was 1 year ago
Bubble has popped faggot, you think you can be a late adopter. Get the information that these coins did a 100x so now they will do it again?

Newsflash, most these coins will trade in the price range they are now. And many will just bleed slowly
A random few coins that you most likely DO NOT have will make a 20x or so, but as i said they will be the coins no one is shilling on biz

This is the sad truth, now you better wish for 2017 bull run again where everything is ez mode. Because that is literally the only thing that will save this market

Someone give me a good fake blockfolio or binance page so i can troll

>>8143550

>>8146518
I fucked your dad

>>8142594
$1200 XMR in 260-290 days.

easy.

>>8146028
were there even threads here about the captcha solving stuff?

>>8146216
Yeah well guess what retard, it literally HAS to be true at some point. It can't keep going up forever, so there has to be a point where things stop going up, and if you don't think we're at that point after the market went x50 in a year, your brain is made of fucking cheese.

All crypto needs is a little good news and people will jump back in. It's easier and easier to buy crypto. As long as the economy doesn't tank it'll recover.

>>8146381
If it goes sideways long enough it will tank.

>>8142594
Really hurts anon I started almost exactly a year ago and made nothing I suck

>LINK
>WAN

god, please...

>>8144339
man I wish there was a comprehensive guide for this. The titles lead a lot to be desired, we need more information. These images are always so fucking interesting.

>>8145429
Spaco will decimate your little shellfish.

>>8145748
Wysker and VTR. $4m and $7m caps with 90m and 10m coin supplies. Get rich yo.

>>8145226

70,000,000,000,000 dollars in the world. 500,000,000,000 is the current average market cap.

> trolling this hard

>>8146168
that shit is only on polo and it wont let me register without uploading my ID. fucking sucks mang

>>8146070
How does it feel to be such a retard? Bet you still spend your time fudding quality moonshots before you've even done any research.

>>8142949
Do you just get off on getting people to reply to you?

>>8148565
No, I'm just not deluded about moon missions happening ever again. We are the late adopters.

>>8143555
Chainlink and Req seem to be the ones

>>8148605

my favorite part about /biz/ is how sure people are of things that nobody can be sure of.

like you aren't just some faggot at a computer guessing. acting like you got a phd in crypto future happenings. pfftt.

>>8148654
This. Late adopters. Almost no one I know has crypto and I work in a tech related field with professionals with disposable incomes. We are not late adopters at all. That right there proves you're not a person to listen to. We are early majority.

since you fags love the market cap meme

>>8148693
That graph is /biz/ worthy due to how shitty and useless it is. It conveys nothing

>>8148712
just like market cap. price depends solely on demand.

>>8148654
crypto will have better returns than stocks so you may as well go all in. But, expect a 2x to be on the high end of returns EOY. This is still good in the grand scheme of things.

>>8148681
most people will be "never-adopters". We are still late adopters. Anyone who bought in 2017 and later is a late adopter.

>>8148770
Unlike nasdaq listed companies crypto still has no real world uses. There's not a single viable product after $100B+ flooding the sector.

>>8146614
Agreed. But that’s only like 3x gains. I’m thinking more like $5000+ in less than 24 months.

>>8148794
WYSKER
Y
S
K
E
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https://wysker.app.link/install

>>8146943
>It can't keep going up forever

Yeah economies don't just grow over time, what are you, some kind of intuitive person with basic reasoning skills?

>>8148782

there you go with your faggy shit again. dude, nobody knows what's going to happen. all our portfolios could go to 1 cent or 100 coins could go 1000x. or we could all be in the exact same place we are now.

"expect a 2x to be on the high end" wtf are you even talking about.

>>8148613
chainlink and Req are the only coins you should be buying anons.

You would have made more holding Doge than BTC. What a joke. I’m about to sell all my BTC and all in on alts now.

>>8148890
>crypto has 0 use case, 0 usability, no ones is using it, it's garbage, and it's already overextended with total mkt cap ~.5T when it should be closer to .5B
"it will just keep going up forever anon"

Fuck dude are you the bagholder who bought CSCO @ $80 back in 2000?

>>8148867
If you consider that a consumer or business product you're a moron

>>8148981
So you don't understand the value in decentralizing trust and having a permanent record of transactions on a blockchain?

>>8148991
>a shopping app
>not a consumer product

Stay poor retard.

>>8142858
shhh
nolinkers don’t deserve link

>>8142746
Hi pajeet

>>8148941

I think about it like that too, sometimes. BTC seems inferior to alts in tech and gains year after year... But the brand name coin, Anon...

>>8142594
fuck off, NEO was some nonexistent coin called antshares.

Same with a lot of the other ones.

>>8144266
NXT is literally the same satoshi value today. When the hell was this taken?

>>8150113
The market rides on bitcoins price, you obviously haven't been thinking the right way.

they didn't heard of corporate money about to pour in in few quarters
oh, nevermind
we still have room to grow x10 in BTC at least, in 2018-2019
alongside with BTC there will be hundreds on wild rides

>bubble pops
what sort of bubble we're in if we hit 6k bottom and now we're at 12k? why bubble is bursting for 3 months and still couldn't? bubble thought like "nah, not today, let's wrap back"?

>debating on interenet

>>8151090
It does indeed, but in 2017 almost every non-shitcoin alt has been better for gains. Who is to say 2018 isn't the same?

>>8142705
u fucking moron
tether is meant to hold a 1:1 value with usd.

>>8142705
Well theres your problem, you are measuring in ounces.

>>8143049
i believe this. unfortuneltly you almost need some inside information to get those cheat codes