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>>8039299
weed powder look at the picture

>>8039273
is this shit gonna give me erectile disfunction?

>>8039273
what is this?

>>8039273
Is that kratom? That shit fucked up my kidneys and has a horrible withdrawal. 2/10 would not consume.

>>8039332
You must be retarded

Looks like Spinach

>>8039350
You mean for using kratom? Yeah, I was.

kratom?

>le drugs

>>8039350
>t. drug addicted degenerate

>>8039273
matcha? the superior caffeine and thiamine source?

>>8039366
DEA SHILL SHOO SHOO

>>8039299
kratom

>>8039394
Not true, I’m all about some mdma.

no it's shit that tastes awful and gets you high

>>8039411
>I love drugs, but kratom will make you kill yourself so let's ban it, wouldn't that be cool bros? I heard all the cool guys are doing Vicodin(TM) anyway

>>8039273
Cocain?

>>8039273
You think that stuff's not addictive? Keep taking it.

I use modafinil. No kratom.

>>8039273
I've been eating Kratom all day every day for 6 months. Never felt better in my life. I can tell the withdrawal is going to be dreadful, but I have no logical reason to stop yet. Haven't had alcohol for a couple years. Weed and Kratom only.

>>8039273
dude i am a kratom addict. i do like 4grams about 3-4 times a day. been using it for 4 years straight. havent missed a day.

literally the best plant and high on the planet.

>>8039496
I didn’t say anything about banning. I really don’t give a fuck what you want to put into your body, I’m just stating a fact that the shit had my kidneys hurting like a motherfucker until I had quit using it for like 3 months. And it gave me a nasty withdrawal that lasted almost a week.

>>8039610
im kinda bugged out right now though because for the first time i got an audio captcha verification...wtf is this

Kratom fucking sucks lol. But then again, I've done all sorts of opiates (including heroin), so I'm just more used to that feeling.

>>8039321
Quite the opposite, it gives you nearly unlimited physical and sexual stamina, although if you take too much for your tolerance level it can be difficult to finish. I use high doses before physically demanding adventures.

It's okay.

>>8039273
Kratom sucks. If you are gonna do opiates, do heroin or go back to the fucking kids table.

why the fuck is kratom being shilled on biz daily

https://www.superfoods-for-superhealth.com/vitamineral-green.html

I been off for 3 days now. I was the op who made a kratom thread before my break. So far getting mild to moderate depression and cravings that's all. Oh and a little bit of cold chills.

>>8039273
u smoke this?

>few hours before bed, time for my evening kratom.
>check into to bizrael to see whats up.
>see kratom thread
>slowly nod in approval. cheers kratom bros. cant believe this shit is legal.

>>8039662
I fucking hate pain pills but love me some kratom. The high is fantastic and also stimulant-like with some opiate traits (some people feel it in their chest, for me it feels like my legs go a little numb and sorta buzz). The stamina is ridiculous too along with sex (arousal and feeling). I've been doing it for about a year, I go through a few ounces over a couple months, not everyday usage, and I'll take a few week break in between bags. Fucking love it although sobriety is still nice (I smoke pretty consistently so I guess you could call that "sober")
>>8039623
A week withdrawal? How much are you fuckers dosing with?

>>8039693
because it is great for all occasions and its like living life on comfy
>>8039716
you eat it
>>8039730
cheers I hope to be back on soon

>>8039623
Describe these withdrawals please. You wanted more kratom? Your serotonin was low and you felt like a loser? You didn't feel as focused as you did when you were consuming kratom?
>>8039680
Nobody in this thread is talking about opiates you dumb faggot please kys

>>8039711
I saw your original thread and made my own today because I like the discussions. Sorry about the depression man, I've never had a problem going cold turkey but my buddy who was taking this 4 times a day that introduced me was going through cold sweats, mood swings, everything.

>>8039601
>the withdrawal will be dreadful
>constantly deferring a bad experience that is caused and worsened by a repeated action
>”I have no logical reason to stop”

>>8039784
I'm on an SSRI if that makes any difference, I never get too upset/anxious/overhappy since that shits being regulated in my brain and I wonder if this would affect withdrawal from substances at all

>>8039698
>https://www.superfoods-for-superhealth.com/vitamineral-green.html
kek busted

>>8039273
I love matcha

>>8039759
kratom may not technically be an opiate but it mimics the feeling of opiates. therefore if you want to do kraton, you want to do opiates since kratom is just a substitute. you are a solid gold bitch you know that?

>>8039870
>therefore if you want to do kraton, you want to do opiates

In spite of the impression that certain people are trying to give here, for whatever reasons, addiction is not fun, cozy or cool. It pretty much sucks. The more time passes, the more the cost of using goes up, the greater the side effects, and the less the high. For those who can use it occasionally, fine. But make no mistake: kratom is addictive, physically and mentally. Just look at how much control the 'adherents' in this thread have.

>>8039756
where do you buy?
locally or online ?

How do I consume this without that awful flavor touching my tongue

>>8039817
i went about as hard or harder than that anon and though the same but they were not nearly as bad as I anticipated.
>>8039784
>>8039822
Thanks bud for the support. I think some of this depression is also related to my current life situation as well. I am on foquest so that has helped a lot. I would never mess with a ssri personally though.
>>8039895
Online at galactic botanicals (heads shops = shit)

>>8039759
>>8039870
I stopped taking kratom a few days ago. The withdrawals always make me feel depressed and lazy for about a week after and I've some nasty headaches for the past couple of days. Something about the withdrawals just make me want to kill myself or drink, it's really not pleasant. I had a lot of trouble sleeping the first night after stopping. I still think kratom is nice though

>>8039895
Online, its illegal in a few states. A good price is $10/oz. Take a small spoonful and brew tea with it or if you're an absolute chad buy a pureleaf, pour some in and shake the shit out of it. It'll taste gnarly but it grows on you. And as >>8039887 and others said don't make too much of a habit out of it. Shit feels great but don't let your quality of life depend on it, it's easy as fuck to start using every day. Having said that, nothing wrong with dabbling I guess, I get zoned the fuck in to crypto, sex, homework, and vidya on it.

>>8039870

Congradultions guys, you successful shitted up /biz/

I guess all you fuckers that lost money in crypto became junkie degenerates and now need to cope with your loses

i'm doing big doses of opiates daily since years (600mg tramadol/day usually), will the kratom still make effects if i consume it or my tolerance to opiates will directly influence it and reduce the effects ?

Biz, my old college room mate made millions selling this shit. Buys 15 tons at a time at 5 a kilo and sells at minimum 100 per kilo. Too bad its about to be illegal. this shit was serious a get rich quick scheme that worked. Whats the next kratom? (not larping)

>>8039756
>because it is great for all occasions and its like living life on comfy
I know a dopehead who switched to it and loves it, so that's great. I even tried some of his tea and he gave me too much and it was just like taking too much lortab. So it's cool. But I just hate to see the stealth marketing here

>>8039759
Well, it was a general feeling of soreness in my muscles coupled with cold flashes and not wanting to get out of bed/off the couch for days. Just feeling like shit, physically and mentally.

>>8039978
Or more of us here have been doing this and it doesnt get brought in daily shitcoin discussions. I dont see how it's a problem to condense the drugtalk into one thread though, if it bothers you that much hide it or sage friend
>>8039983
it's a unique substance (mitragyna), if you try kava and related herbal shit it won't ever be exactly the same

>>8040000
I am not stealth marketing; I am a user. The site I use is only for Canadians and it's on the expensive side so its unlikely anyone would buy If I was stealth marketing I would probably link a referral link.

>>8039980
pls someone answer

get out of her DEA fed fag

>>8040094
You won’t get any effect from it until you’ve been off the tramadol for about a week.

>>8039963
>>8039924
im gonna use https://gaiaethnobotanical.com/
which strains do you guys like?

>>8040083
yeah there's probably some holder of a billion dollars worth of this stuff paying someone 10 cents per post here

or the fucking banks trying to get crypto traders addicted to opiods

go fuck yourself right back to 420chan, /b/, reddit, bluelight, somewhere this topic is a bit more relevant

>>8039273
I find kratom highs last about 30 minutes max for me. It makes me euphoric then fades away. I wish I got these productive benefits that everyone else does.

>>8039983
Check out this dagga flower
>>8040000
I just hate to see all the disinformation. It will lead to kratom being illegal, which is dumb as fuck.

>>8039980
I'm guessing the latter although I bet it would be easier to get on kratom and slowly ween yourself off doses. It's been used to treat opiate withdrawal for hundreds of years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa#Opioid_withdrawal.. Make sure to drink lots of water to filter out your liver/kidneys. I find it stimulates appetite as well.

>>8039273
ok shills, ill bite. Where can I get this in the USA that doesnt suck?

Anyone else besides that one anon having kidney issues with it? I have stones.

>>8039817
I can wean myself off whenever I like. But If something happens and I can't take it anymore, I'll be fucked. Pending withdrawal is not a reason to quit, though. Where the fuck is your logic?

>>8040146
Any of the white strains will give you intense focus and energy, maeng da is good too. My favorite is white sumatra

>>8039610
Any noticeable overall difference between the first year and the fourth?

>>8040146
>>8040198
this. conversely red will give you some stimulation but is perfect for pain relief aka will get you the most opiate-like effect. I love red bali and red borneo
>also no I'm not a kratom shill, I'm a college student in a state where it's illegal

Hmnmmm.... As a Canadian I want to try this now. Modafinil not doing too much for me.

>>8040164
yeah me too, fucking ironic that they're trying to ban this stuff but they market some heavy shit like DXM and other antidepressants to children

a strange nation we live in

sage

What withdrawal? There is none. Nothing in the realm of what you would traditionally think of as withdrawal. I consume about 16 gram a day for a year and when I stop for whatever reason there is nothing remotely close to a withdrawal symptom. It's damn near the perfect drug.

>>8040189
I haven't had any issues, but I don't eat an ounce a day like these idiots. Actually I don't use it much these days because I spend all my money on link, but when I did it was 2-3 days a week on the busy days at work. Never any problems, just very helpful overall

>>8039903
Buy capsules!

>>8040192

the logic is that withdrawals are your body saying to knock it the fuck off

>>8039939
You shouldn't stop cold turkey. Why would you think about killing yourself when you can just take a small dose and quit slowly?

>>8039903
>>8040253
Yo just make a puddle of water in your mouth, drop the kratom into that puddle, and swallow.

>>8039314
dank

>>8039895
>>8039963
I highly recommend buying capsules and bypassing the whole mess and taste of the powder.

>>8040249
Have you come down off of opiates? Your perspective of withdrawal is wildly different than mine. I imagine coming down off of opiates is about the same as Kratom, but I don't know first hand.

Yeah its god awful. I just dump it into a half cup of water, whisk it real quick, slam it.

>>8040146
maeng da is the best

>>8040431

Nah, I am an alki with ptsd related anxiety issues. Cut my drinking in half. I've never taken anti anxiety meds.

>>8040431
Did you even read his post? All these people keep saying "withdrawal" as if they experienced some requiem for a dream shit by not taking kratom lol

The Jew Thread

Where my amphetamine/adderall bros?

>>8040327
I honestly like the actual flavor of Kratom, but the powder is just too messy and inconvenient. With capsules, I just keep a fistful in my pocket and pop them throughout the day. Plus, how strange would it be to see someone eat a spoon full of green powder every few hours at work?

>>8039680
this.

>>8039662
Yeah I guess the fact that kratom can be a stimulant AND a depressant is useful for productivity, but the actual high isn't that comfy. I'm shocked that you don't enjoy opiate buzz. It's the best feeling in the world desu (warm and fuzzy). I miss snorting china white.

>>8040478
You can keep them

>>8040484
Im prescribed adderall 20mg but I find it too meth-y and I get inside my head a lot rather than getting the social effects from it, shits great for studying but when I smoke with it I just feel weird, feelsbadman

>>8040503

I'm retarded. The second link should've been >>8039749

>>8039273
this is matcha you soy boy

>>8040495
Not that strange they all just wanna bum kratom off you. I used to buy it for my crew so they would all work faster. It saved me a lot of stress

>>8040533
I've snorted china white once while on a little off-the-rails drug spree and I knew I liked it too much to ever try it again. Told my buddy who gave it to me to beat the shit out of me if I ever asked for it again while high on it. he's dead now :(

>>8040252
>>8040472
Of course I read his post. Reading your posts made me dumber. You honestly sound immature and irresponsible.

>>8039273
>abstain for a few months
>take 2g
>cozy as fuck opiate fuzzies like a small dose of oxy
feels good mang

>>8040583
Damn dude.... that sucks. I saw some of my friends go down the addiction spiral. One started shooting it (which I could never do, I hate needles) all the time, but he eventually went to rehab. I'm fortunate enough to not have had any friends die from drugs.
I snorted it regularly (almost daily--some breaks every few days) for about 5 months, but it never got out of control. I still did fairly well in school (hell, it made my homework more fun). When I stopped cold turkey I only had a stuffy nose for about a week or so. I guess my body is just good at handling drugs lol.
A few months ago I was spending way too much money on blow, but then I stopped that cold-turkey too. While I've never really experienced addiction, I will say that the one drug I won't allow myself to take anymore is xanax. Blackouts are scary as fuck, and they've almost almost ruined my life just from me attempting dumb shit.

>>8040198
>>8040233
>>8040439
heres what i picked

>>8040755
I've definitely had my fair share of blackouts and I refuse to touch those anymore too, lost my virginity on a couple of bars and half a fifth of vodka, can stitch together bits and pieces of the experience. I was doing a shit ton of blow and acid at the time too but never got addicted to them (acid for obvious reasons). Only thing I've touched in the last year is booze, weed and kratom and it feels good not being absolutely off the rails anymore although I miss those times even though I almost died a lot and was generally a reckless douchebag. nostalgia is a weird thing, especially when you kinda peaked sexually and socially while being the worst kind of white trash. I've had a few close friends die, a couple are far too gone to help, and a couple have gone to rehab doing the same shit I did.

>>8039332
Yeah that shit is okay but it does weird stuff to my stomach

>>8040849
you might want to check out terrabotonicals I heard they are really good and cheap but have not personally used
My personal favourites in order
Maeng da
elephant thai
super green Malaysia
tesla red thai
bali (these are from galactic so some are specific blends tho)

>>8039332
this basicaly kratom is fucking disgusting would not consume unless it's to ward off opi withdrawal and i don't do opiates so fuck kratom

>>8040484
adderall is really amazing i love it v much

>>8040484
otherwise known as methheads in denial

>>8040849
Aright bro. Take a spoonful of the white one and daytrade your whole stack to 20 million like in Limitless.
>>8040955
>>8040942
pozzed

>>8040986
i just use it to study and sometimes i get distracted and end up jacking off for five hours

>>8039273
My gi tract was fucked for a month off this shit. kratom might be good fresh but they sell the shitty stuff to America

>>8040249
>>8040472
lmao, this. What's up with these hypochondriacs?

>>8040875
I feel you. I don't have a gf anymore, so I'm probably gonna be an r9k-tier incel for a while. Once we're balling we can do a little bit of the crazy shit again. We're all gonna make it.

I went through a 25g of green borneo over a year. Strange drug. I take it as a minor pain reliever when I get ill. Would recommend for medicine, not for recreational use.

I got addicted to oxy that turned into a heroin addiction. I was able to ween off using kratom. Saved my life. That's why they want to ban it. Can't be having a natural plant cut into big pharmas profit. They would much rather put you on expensive Suboxone for the rest of your life

>>8039273
im surprised the rest of /biz/ isn't on nootropics. some of this stuff could give you guys an advantage.

>>8041122
I was kinda thinking this but now it seems like almost everyone is high on something or taking some kind of pill, this is the most active thread on /biz/ by a longshot

>>8041122

I've yet to find one that works. Mod just makes me feel like I'm on coke. Zero cognizant improvement.

>>8041012
I feel that. I have used adderall when I didn't have acid for microdosing so I could study hard for some finals

>>8041161
>>8041174

can't go wrong with good ol piracetam. see if you respond or not. if you dont just ditch it, only costs like $15.

>>8039273
It stopped doing anything for me after a while. Even a long break didn't bring the effects back and when it did work it was okayish but nothing special. I am getting wonderful results with phenibut but it's dangerouys stuff so I use it sparingly.

>>8039273
Sure I snort wasabi all of the time anon. How long ago did you happen to learn of this?

I don't know why you fuckers waste so much time/money making disgusting filth teas out of Chinese Goat Root or snorting sleep apnea gels when adderall is so cheap and easy to get prescribed.

>hurr durr its just crystal meth for unruly children

Yeah, no successful person and creative ever used amphetamines. Never happened.

>Hurr durr enjoy fucking up your brain's development

Yeah, don't do it when you're a kid. The prescribe it to adults, too. Don't be a retard.

>hurr durr enjoy frying your brain

Yeah, a modest 15mg extended release, whew really burning the candle at both ends!! Retards take 45mg a day and can't sit still for the rest of their lives, cool. I guess I won't use this incredible tool because some people funnel it up their ass

Better just keep on experimenting with $50 Yukaba root powder ordered from some random website because someone on the internet said it works.

>>8041251
>piracetam

The first article I found about it basically said it might make me permanently stupid. Ohboy. I already have a decently high IQ, I don't wanna have a normie IQ.

>>8041552
It's a completely different fucking drug. If I want to feel stimmed and focused I'll take an adderall. If I want to hang out with some friends and giggle my ass off I'll smoke weed. If I want to walk like a robot and explore the infinite depths of intra-dimensional universes through the back of my eyelids I'll chug some dxm and crack a few whippets. And if I want to chill and feel comfy after a long day I'll take an oxy or some kratom.

The point I'm trying to make here is that you're comparing apples to oranges. It's like saying "why do you drink coffee in the morning instead of taking shots of vodka?".

>>8041552
it's always the methhead lites spewing this shit. I take adderall when I need it to either wake up or get some work done in class but why cant people take their substances that work for them without someone shitting on it. if it works it works, if it doesnt then move the fuck on

>>8041672
This. Although you don't need to reserve kratom for the end of the day because it doesn't make you act stoned. You can easily go about your business at work or school or whatever while on it. But yeah, comparing it to Adderall is pointless. Completely different. And being prescribed doesn't make it any more or less legitimate.

Kratom is legitimately the only thing that has worked for my depression. It not only gave me the energy to do things but made me truly want to do them. It also killed my desire to drink.

Unfortunately its banned where i live now and is near impossible to get. So i'm back to being depressed and an alcoholic, which will probably kill me within 5 years. Thanks, government.

>>8039273
Downers are toxic for testosterone you will fuck yourself in the long term op
Psychedelics or uppers for productivity but downers for the occasional asmr session

>>8039273
W2C?

>>8041830
It's great for depression until you stop taking it, then your depression is amplified. Not sure if worth

>>8039845
Underrated

>>8041830
Where do you live?

>>8041870
In the US it's sold in smoke shops everywhere but 7 states.

I bought like 700 grams of Kratom from Lifeforce and Herbal Salvation. Doesn't really do much for me personally. Slight mood boost. Slight lump in my stomach. Seems to diminish arousal. Some yellow strain gave me crazy ass anxiety.

>>8042207
Prob. not taking enough.

>>8041174
>>8041251
>>8041122
Nootropics are a fucking meme. It's basically the RC industry but dumbed down for health nutters.

#1 nootropic/rc/legal substance would probably be Adrafinil though, for many reasons. It's a prodrug to modafinil, it's legal, and it's been clinically tested for safety (pretty safe).

for general purpose life enhancement you can't go wrong with amphetamine

>>8039273
I never tried Kratom before, how is it combined with weed?

>>8042464
Stop smoking anon

>>8039378
I was thinking it was Japanese Matcha too.
Matcha is fucking awesome... its like a little cup of motivation. Caffeine without the anxiety. And not a degenerate drug.

>>8039273
>homework

Nigga 4chan is 18+

>>8042500

> Has never heard of college

>>8041841
So inject test E once a week, problem solved.

>>8042553
literally who?

>>8042481
I-I'm a vaper

>>8039273
Man I swore Kratom got made illegal here in the UK but according to http://www.kratom.co.uk/ it's still legal. I've been meaning to try it for a while, heard a lot of varied reports on it. Does it just give a nice subtle relaxing high? I'm sick of nigger weed too.

Is that matcha powder?

if you dont want to have painfully nasty green shits, i redommend to make a tea out of it (put in a little lemon juice to extract the alkaloids)

>>8041552
Good luck getting prescribed amphetamines in europe. I'd really like to try an extended release version, but i'll have to do with my modafinil i guess, you can get ritalin, but that's pure shit in my experience, horrible comedown;

>>8039630
T. Fag high as kite

>>8039273
Don't mind the superior leaf coming through.

>>8041552
Goddammit Anon, now I actually want to try Adderall

Where can I buy modafinil?

>>8044139
Not at all like Kratom, but godly in other ways

>>8044573
Are you from based Yurop? Then afinil.eu bby

>>8042746

If you want to subtle relax try phenibut. Don't use more often than 2x per week though.

Combine with caffeine for even better effect.

Christ, no wonder this board always makes the wrong call. You made the wrong call in life and now you bring it here.

>>8041122
you are retarded, nootropics are 100% placebo, like literally.