/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>796145

Ebay is fucking garbage.

>>796150

These guys will love to have you

>Love reading their stories on my fake FB acc

Anyways


>Buyer wins auction
>Buyer doesn't want to pay
>Buyer receives reminder from eBay to pay
>Threatens to leave negative feedback with other account if I don't cancel item
Buyer is from Britain
>Wait for his negative feedback from other account
>Call eBay, show messages
>Feedback removed
>Random buyer from Britain leaves neutral feedback
>Call eBay, tell them it's the same guy
>Feedback removed

Now anyone from Britain who leaves a negative feedback is removed, lol.

>>796155

How do you deal with the fee's?

>>796166

Oh, you just have to keep selling...and selling. Find an item that will eat the fees while you sell your other items.

Those big guys that sell for $2.99, they aren't making a profit.
They only profit when they sell x2 x3 x4+, those cheap items eat up their fees for the big items they sell.

>>796166

Find items that have high enough margins.

The fees are worth the large userbase available to purchase your shit.

>>796168
>>796171


Thanks, one more question.

How do you guys handle shipping?

>>796187

I know some people here despise Stamps.com but I still like it. Tried Ink Frog/Ship Station (Stamps.com owns it) but they all sucked for me.

Stamps freezes alot and crashes alot, also is confusing at first, but it gets the job done.

All you do is:

>click to see what's ready to be shipped
>fix the weight
>print
>put label on package

Simple huh?

I'm on my way to the post office right now since I don't have any priority mail (usps only picks up at your house if you have at least x1 priority mail).

All for $15.99 a month

>>796187

99.8% handled the physical part well so I'll cover the pricing part.

For used/preowned auctions I will not go the free shipping route. I've found that being able to have my starting bids as low as possible draws a couple of bids.

Free shipping should have the shipping costs built into the price. It's suppose to give you higher ranking on Ebay and it should convert into more sales (seeing the word free helps convert potential customers into sales). Free shipping also gives you an automatic 5 stars for shipping costs when receiving feedback. This is also good for your ranking.

>>796168
I've been selling cards at like 2.99, so that helps a lot, thanks based Feedback man.

I'm cleaning out a basement, what home goods sell? Are books good?

>>796233

Try eBay's "Half.com" site for books/your old playboy magazines.

People actually prefer this to Amazon sometimes, even people that hate eBay use it.

>Sell brand new wireless router to buyer.
>They claim it's not new. It is....
>They claim WiFi doesn't work.
>MFW they don't know how to configure it, and access the management page, and enable WiFi
>mfw the listing was CLEARLY for just the router, and nothing else.
>mfw they complain that it didn't come with cables, or a 'paper manual'

Can we just get a global block on retarded buyers?

>>796322

>Selling new router
>With no cables are instructions

If the box is open, it's used, I don't care what you put on the ad, who the fuck buys a router and buys cords separately.

People aren't really this retarded right?

>>796333
>Needing an instruction manual.
>Needing cables for a replacement of your existing broken/fried router.

um
>Mfw pulling $500+ of stuff out of boxes in my warehouse.
>Mfw I didn't even think to price check this stuff when I got it from the auction weeks ago.

mfw

>>796452

Not every person in the world knows how to set up a router you dumb fuck, when a normal consumerfag buys shit "New" they expect everything to be with it, how many people do you honestly think know how to set up a router, every time I have had high speed internet service, they have set it up for me without me even asking, now extrapolate that to every household in america and tell me how many people honestly know how it works other than it shits out internet to my devices.

>>796461
well they can just google it if they don't know.... oh wait

>>796322
>mfw they complain that it didn't come with cables, or a 'paper manual'
Yeah. That's a used product, not a new product. Obviously the original box was opened. As soon as that happens it's used.

man you guys sure are good at semantics. if you want service, go to a box store. a router is like $20. if you buy shit on ebay, you shouldn't expect after-sale service

>>796461
>Sell item.
>Implying I'm responsible to hold their hand and teach them how it works.

>>796488
Item was a brand new replacement... it doesn't come with anything else, and no routers do not come with manuals these days...

>>796168
why even sell something for 2.99 if it's not profitable what's the point.

>>796627

You're a twat, everything comes with a manual 'these days'

>I'm responsible for holding their hand and teach them how it works

That's what the manual you're not giving them is for shithead.

Finally, FINALLY my items are showing up on the 1st page instead of the last.

Seems eBay finally realized a Top Rated seller shouldn't be in the back with the slow shippers.

>Mfw just spent $900 on new things to sell, don't want to blow this loan on only long term items.

>>796628

Some sellers have reduced shipping, we pay $2+, they pay anywhere from .50 to whatever since they sell thousands weekly.

So they still manage to profit, while we try and find something that will at least make us $1.

>>796239
Thanks anon, that's a big help!

How do people even sell on Amazon? Isn't it only good for bulk/wholesale?

So is it worth selling stuff from Europe or in Europe? I make womens clothing in Asia and sell here. I maybe could sell some on ebay?

>>796767

lol no prob, Amazon is great to sell on. Amazon simply:

>Gives you a place to put your ad (just find your UPC/etc)
>When it sells you don't get charged twice (like eBay/Paypal)
>If the buyer wants to cancel, they don't have to contact you
>You don't get penalized as much as eBay
So returns are easy, if/when you get scammed (Don't reject returns, Amazon doesn't like that, always accept)
>IF you do sell alot, you can just send everything to Amazon FBA and have them sell it for you form their warehouse (eBay is trying to copy this with their Valet thing).

Pretty cool site, also everyone trusts it. Every ad I see online always redirects to some guy's Amazon store.
>Pic related
Even these guys won't accept my payment/ad placement because it goes to eBay

>>796801
Your posts are so annoying to read because you use meme arrows for no fucking reason. God damnit, get your shit together.

Do you use alibaba to buy things

how do you deal with huge MOQs

>>796814

So you find it easier for me to talk like I just pulled a chapter out of a book and didn't have time to paraphrase it in a way it would be easier for someone to understand without knowing what I was talking about or what the book was even though even though even though I am I am I am I am using the standard way of how to tell a story on the "four chans".


>Mfw I just realized where this .gif was from after watching GOT S1-S4 all last week.

Please stop shitting up /biz/.

>>796826
Ask them for a smaller amount. Many will do it, if need be promise to buy their MOQ the second time.

>>796929
Man I actually like you but you just post in a retarded way.

>And no its not the standart way to psot on 4chan

>>796171

Bingo.

I live in rural Georgia. I source my shit from a variety of places but honestly, if I opened a store in my local town, I wouldn't make jack shit. Ain't nobody got any money.

Other week I bought something for $50 I flipped for $400. Would never sell for $400 around here, but some guy in Detroit was willing to pay $400.

That exposure alone is worth the fees. When you really think about it, it's peanuts compared to traditional advertising and marketing costs.

Just today on $90 investment I cleared $286, after fees and my original investment my profit for the day should be around $160ish when I do the labels. You could say I turned $90 into $250 and everything was sold before my fat lazy ass woke up at 11.

>>796202

Why don't you just put the first class in the mailbox? That's what I do.

>and that fucking 11 cent increase

>>796644

GOOGLE ABC COMPANY ROUTER MODEL XXX MANUAL

It's not rocket science. And add *.pdf if you want an even faster response

>>796965


Agreed, I just post in a way people understand. First time in hearing someone doesn't like how I post.

>>796980
Different mailmen, some of them don't like to take it.

>>796982
>Buy should have to go more work because the seller is a worthless bum

The seller deserves negative feedback for selling the item as a new product.

>>797006

Oooh, one good looking guy right there. Might as well read about him

>>797006
Buyer*

I just got one of my products stocked in a B&M store on consignment. If it does well over the next couple of months, they will start buying from me wholesale. In talks with another store too which would be even better, but they are far more picky.

Question to all you eBay cucks:

What if instead of eBay you used shopify or something and spent the equivalent of your listing fees on advertising your products online?

>>797019

Have a feeling some of you really hate eBay. I understand why but c'mon, ebay is already a mess, some people just want to tag along until they're sold off to alibaba.

Those sites are nice and all, but this this is /biz/. Most people don't even know know what cpm means, how would we advertise our small shop?

>>797019

A lot of people don't have the inventory to fully open up a store.

The ebay fee already pays for exposure to large market. Yes you can advertise, but that's another level of business that most people aren't prepared for.

>>797019
As someone earlier posted. We pay for the convenience. I have two dedicated websites for different products I sell. One day of profits from ebay equals 1-6 months profits on my websites. If I had a magical way of getting people to buy from them, it would be great. Why would they want to use a website with a fixed number of products, when they can add it to their cart on ebay or amazon and buy it with a whole variety of other products and have the peace of mind that comes knowing that if the product is shit, they retailer will give them their money back with no hassles.

eBay sucks, but it allows me to sell shit with minimal effort.

I got an order of minecraft party bags the other day. Anyone have any experience selling licensed toys and vidya merch?

>>797034

Your competitors will try and take your ad down claiming "Trademark Violation". They'll keep calling eBay till they get someone with no common sense.

Minecraft wouldn't waste their time telling ebay to remove your bag.

>>797034
Very few things on ebay are actually licensed. The only things they really patrol are fashion related shit.

Just try listing a knockoff designer bag.

>>797039
Should I try to get out of this market and move into perhaps vape shit when I sell out on the minecraft bags?

>>797048

Feel like you're the same guy from the previous thread wanting to sell Snoop e-cigs.

I feel like it's over saturated, your MC bookbags though look like they sell well.

>>797047
Aw, why did you crop out the picture? Graduation picture was hanging right there for a reason.

>>797052
I didn't post in the last thread, but you're probably right

>>797048
Vape shit is done to death.

Avoiding like like the plague huh, feel like you're upset you're not the only one that can help others.

Kinda weird this is how you retaliate, but... okay.

>>797063
I have no issue with you helping people. I have an issue with the namefagging. Become anon-e-mouse like the rest of us.

>>797065

>That would've been a perfect response image for what I'm about to say.

I already explained why I use 99.8, my IP changes every few hours. You have an iD that doesn't, so you're fine.

What, you want me me to say "I'm the one that said that" everytime?...

Lol alright I accept defeat, y'all should know it's me regardless.

>>797060
Actually i own a juice line and lots of stuff you can get the problem is shipping times. If someone warehoused in the us they could make bank. Or even just smalltime but very regional

>>797074

There's this guy that sells milk to China because their milk over there is fake/hazardous. Think Vice did a doc on him, makes alot.

>>797075
Some guy was talking about it in a thread on /biz/ before. There was an incident some years back and some babies died from drinking formula. In China it's fashionable to use formula instead of breast feed.

Almost all of their current oversees formula comes from New Zealand though, and Australia is going to reduce terrifs on it so it will die to Yourapoors soon.

>>797074
I mean the actual vapes, every gas station in the US sells them now, eBay is flooded with chinese clones. You could market the juice if you can get some weird/good tasting flavors though since they are consumables.

>>797081

Exaclty, China can replicate anything...but milk.

Makes me wonder how this >>796779 guy isn't making a ton of money when he's right there with the factory.

>>797088
Apparently their milk is actually considered very safe now because they cracked down but the PR backlash was so bad people won't buy non-imported formula.

Maybe they meant they are a literal factory drone.

>>797100
>people won't buy non-imported formula.
All their formula comes from Ireland

>>797006
IT WAS NEW YOU FUCKING SHIT!

>>797116

>>796627
>Item was a brand new replacement

Sounds like you warrantied a broken router and tried to sell it as a retail product. Also most warranty items are refurbished.

It should have been sold as Manufacturer Refurbished or maybe New - Other if it had a genuine seal in place.

>>797100

Chinese here. You might want to check if the story is from People's Daily, cause milk here is not safe at all.

If anything it's gotten worse. Local Tainjing news JUST had a story about a large smuggling ring using Melanine and other carcinogens to make their milk seem standard (watered down milk has low protein, melanine and other chemicals fool the protein content test.)

Importing baby formula from Hong Kong is big, big business here.

>>797124

Also, if you are looking to IMPORT into China... try high end breathing masks, breathing apparatus, & indoor air filters.

domestic lung cancer and pulmonary disease rates are going through the roof... and government isn't saying anything about it.

But there is a big, big market for anything pulmonary disease related and Chinese are willing to pay western prices for these.

>>797006

No, you're a big boy. You can see what you're buying before you buy it. Have questions? ASK THE FUCKING SELLER.

That's the problem with you fuckers. Oh blo blo blo the seller didn't hold my hand, better go tell mommy about it.

>>796985
I like your meme arrows

>>797131
You are aware I'm a seller, right?

>>797128
Exporting to China just seems crazy. I have a friend at 3M who could probably get me a good price on breathing masks. They just want particulate masks, right, not respirators like they use in industrial settings with the replaceable cartridges?

Why the stigma against breast feeding?

>>797136

Ayy lmao

>>797124
Yea you guys keep trying to save a dollar by mixing the milk powder with anything that looks white. Gotdamn here I thought Indians were the cheapest.

>>797131

Oh blo blo blo, mom, I hate when I buy a new vacuum cleaner and it's missing all of it's attachments.

>>797219

If you'd do your research prior to purchasing, that wouldn't happen.

>>796978

I love ecommerce. When you open a store in your town you're limited to that area (unless you also put it online). On Ebay I'm exposed to the world. For ~13% in Ebay/Paypal fees + shipping and the cost of any damaged/lost items I'd say it's more than worth it. I'll start bitching once Ebay enters the 20% realm but even then it'd probably just nuke out the competition.

>>796978

You've probably got a nice little gold mine too. People willing to move their stuff for anything haha.

Annoying af when another regular seller buys my listing and I give positive feedback to the buyer then never hear back from the buyer, fuck them. I know they're just going to relist the item I sold them anyways, but they got their order in under 24 ungrateful POS

>>796168
How does selling a lot of cheap items eat up the fees for the bigger items? Does it somehow give them exemptions for selling off a lot?

>>796826
What do you do when registering and Alibaba asks for company name and the field has to be filled out? Also should if I plan to resell should I select the (Both) option for whether I'm a buyer or supplier?

>>797489
You're listing your items too low then.

>>797492
Keeping a constant volume on ebay keeps your listings higher and gives you more feedback. High volume shipping means your eligible for better shipping rates.

>>797499
Make up a company name.
Selling on alibaba is close to impossible and generally stupid if you aren't a manufacturer or buy in the millions for small items. You're just a buyer.

>mfw they took down my minecraft bag listing
Should I re upload it without saying minecraft?

>>797735
I'd try my luck listing it on another site

>>797737
What other sites are there? Amazon?

>>797744
Amazon is great for selling. They charge less % for your sales than Ebay, just at the cost that you have to use their photo for your own listing unless you're an advanced seller and make a new listing for a unlisted product.

>>797735

Damn,

Try Amazon, don't try and beat the Amazon FBA price if there's one. Don't get noticed until you have decent feedback to show you're legit.

>>797128
Your people are at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTjrbH6Gx6k

>>797748
How....

Amazon charges 15% and ebay and paypal is a totally of 13%


>I have 40k sales on eBay and 18k on Amazon in the last 18 montha

>>797155
>Why the stigma against breast feeding?

honestly, intimacy/bonding isn't a priority for chinese parents & formula is more convenient

chinese mothers may appear to be tigers to westerners, but they're 'lizards' to us chinese... cold blooded.

our success = their ticket to $$$ & a better life.

>>797894
Even ignoring the intimacy part. Science shows that breast milk is way healthier. Plus they can always just pump. Oh well, I guess however they want to do it.

Where would I find legit smaller Chinese importers?

>>797039

What's that liquidation website you use?

I want to try my hand at the ebay game but I need to find cheap product.

>>797124
I was thinking about importing babby formula, where do I start?

>>796155
Just had this happen
>Bids up on items for 3 days
>Buyer wins bid
>hasn't payed yet
>3 hours after winning wants to cancel order
What in the fucking nigger fuck why the fuck would they even bid in the first place those fucking faggots
And thats not the first time its happened before. Fuck selling auction I just list it as buy it now and require immediate payment.

>>797974

I don't use a liquid sites, there are many out there, just Google the word. Don't know much about liquidation at all.

For starting with eBay selling Chinese things, you'll have to keep searching until you find something. The new iWatch just came out, you can try your hand at the accessories. I found a good item, now I have a ton of it and it's not selling anymore, even when it's on the first page of the search result...odd huh

Anyways I'm about to spend 3k on a product I have a feeling might be profitable, I'm spending this much so if anyone tried to copy, lol well...I'd just lower my price, for my margins would still be higher since I bought at a higher quantity for a lower price.

>>798042

lol it still happens when you use BIN, I just went ahead and turned on "Unpaid Item Assistant", then removed the "Require Immediate Payment".
This way, they can buy all they want. It gives me numbers "20 sold" "50 sold" etc...

If they don't follow through, I don't respond to their pleads for cancel, I just let eBay take it's course to marking their account with an unpaid stamp after 2 days (happens atomically).

There are benefits to auctioning, but with the new eBay fees, it's hopeless.

>>798046
What are the new fees? I know of the 10% fee and like 30 or so cents for a listing correct?

>>797373

It works out pretty well. Not to talk down to my neighbors, but I'm a smart hick in the middle of dumb hick village. Like this morning at a yard sale I picked something up for a quarter that will make me around $10-15 after fees and shipping. Doesn't seem like a lot of money but it's profit off a quarter.

>>798044

Fuck the Chinese shit, I'ma give y'all niggas a tip and I shouldn't do it, but fuck it, I'm friendly.

Harbor Freight / Northern Tool

A couple of the items I sell as "hobby specific" are actually cheap shit from HF or NT. I found out an item that NT sells that the same company makes the same exact item for the military, so there you go, Military *ITEM*. So they sell for about 2-3x what I pay.

>>798147

Exactly, if you don't have a store you will be paying alot for fees.

You only get to list 20 items a month for free, the rest is fees.

>>798152

Nice, makes me want to look into liquidating

>>798155

Check auctionzip.com

Most regions have a weekly auction you can attend and buy stuff that's already been brought over. Some of it's new shit, some of it food, some used. I deal with a local backwoods auction house and you get the weekly players there and at other auction houses buying box lots for pennies on the dollar (usually). Sometimes the rednecks get burned because they think something is worth x when it's worth y, and then they think something is worth nothing and I go sell it on eBay for $50 apiece.

There are also storage locker auctions but those have been fucked ever since those stupid fucking TV shows, but it's starting to return to normal since those shows have lost popularity. I'm going to one in the morning with an advertised 30+ units, so probably will end up being half that to 20 available because people have right until the point of the start to pay their shit off.

I don't expect to really get anything but if you don't take the initiative, you lose out on days. Plus there aren't many yard sales in the morning because it's end of the month, which is also good for the storage auction because the SSI cocksuckers don't have their checks yet.

>and yes, my biggest competition in the area are old farts who spend their entire SSI checks on shit to resell at the flea markets.

>>798159

Just to give you an example. Last year. There was a liquidation of these shooter's ear protection. Retailed at the time for $100ish, I ended up selling all of them for $60 shipped a pop. I think I paid $12 or 15 a unit for them. But I also have some other shit that's been around for about a year and I'm getting ready to clear it out.

My rule of thumb: after three months, mark it down. After six months, mark it down to just a very small profit margin. After nine months, break even. Twelve months: donate it or flea market it or auction it for whatever I can get

Very few things make it to 12 months but alas, I have a few that just never sold and they're taking up space.

>>797030
does the average cart on ebay even contain more than one product?

I've rarely purchase more than one thing at a time on eBay, what about you guys?

>>797027
how much inventory do you really need? I have a friend with exactly 1 product and he sells it all on shopify

>>797024
advertising is a pretty fucking basic principal of business. with eBay it's like you're crossing your fingers and hoping for a sale. I guess the exposure is real, (i mean i've sold on ebay too) but my real questions is about the dollar value of being on ebay vs somewhere else + advertising

>>798183

>how much inventory do you really need? I have a friend with exactly 1 product and he sells it all on shopify

Enough inventory to justify costs. Someone with one or two items might be better using a smaller service like Shopify or Etsy, but eBay is king when it comes to offloading mass amounts of goods, especially used goods.

>advertising is a pretty fucking basic principal of business. with eBay it's like you're crossing your fingers and hoping for a sale. I guess the exposure is real, (i mean i've sold on ebay too) but my real questions is about the dollar value of being on ebay vs somewhere else + advertising

It's not even close. eBay provides the best dollar for dollar value. Let's put it this way: not only do I service customers in North America, I get international orders regularly. From England to Belgium to Italy to Japan to Russia to even South Africa. Any of the billions of people in the world can go on eBay.com, type it something, and if I have it for sale, they will see it. And due to my top rated / powerseller status, I'm almost always near the top so they see mine first, which means I usually get the sale (also because I'm intentionally cheaper than everyone else).

>I ain't gotta fool with a facebook page or instagram page or twitter profile
>I ain't gotta put an ad in a newspaper or pass around flyers or business cards
>All my fat ass has to do is buy it, take pictures of it, and list it. eBay does everything else. The small chunk of change they get from me each month, well, I couldn't hire someone on that pay to do the legwork eBay's system does on my behalf.

The only site I prefer to eBay is Gunbroker (much cheaper fees + money orders are preferred on there) but:

>not as much exposure
>items don't sell for as much

Gunbroker is only good for selling things eBay bans because they're in Commiefornia, like hi-cap magazines. I actually make more money buying shit from Gunbroker sellers and RESELLING it on eBay.

>>798211
hmm interesting.

It seems like ebay makes sense then for the "one off" "pawn shop" inventory.

Let's just pick the extreme case, lets say your a car dealership. Should you focus on having really good ebay listings, and selling all of them on ebay, or investing in TV, sponsorships, etc. to get your cars sold locally.

It might be a poor comparison because with ebay you typically ship products, and people want to touch/feel cars before buying generally, but you get the idea.

"If it was so great why wouldn't everyone do it" etc.

>>797869
I re-listed it without the word Minecraft in it. Hopefully they can't take me down this time. If I list some in Amazon should I send them in for FBA?

>>798255

I don't think you'll be able to send to FBA since you have a low quantity.

Also, lol eBay can see the changes on your account. If they find out you relisted, they might suspend for 1 week.

If you're very new, it might be 1month or worse.

>>798154
Huh what are the fees? How much are they

>>798277
You can do FBA with any quantity.

I used to sell all sorts of used book through FBA, they were all different from each other.

>>798432

Nice, never knew.

>>798426
Don't know much about Amazon FBA, ask the guy above

What kind of scale and label printer should I use?

>>798936

Honestly I use a cheap scale I think I paid $15-20 for several years ago and an old Brother laser printer I paid $3 for at a flea market.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Some good non-specific items you can get on alibaba and sell on craigslist?

things that would be oversaturated/inconvenient to list on ebay, etc.

>>799041
you seriously asking someone to give you an item that sells so that you compete against them preventing them from putting food on their table
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU PIECE OF SHIT SCUM

>>799163

Well he could always:

>Buy a bandana ($1)
>Saw ($4)
All available at the local dollar shop

Then he could head over to the nearest public restroom, cut a hole out on one of the stalls, put on the bandana to cover his eyes and tug on whatever came out of the hole.

Could also sell whatever came out afterwards to a special bank for extra money.

He'd be his own BO$$!

Saw new guy selling what I was in the same state, welcomed him. Seems he already knew what was up.

>>799269
are you like harassing the dude ?

>>796145
>Buyer wins auction
>4 Feedback
>He finally pays after three days
>I send item
>Item gets there according to Fedex
>I leave positive feedback, thinking nothing is wrong
>6 days later I get a notification of chargeback on this item
>Money removed from my account instantly
>Nothing in ebay resolution center
>This dipshit completely circumvented ebay's resolution center and took my money, still has item
>Message him politiely asking what the fuck is going on
>No answer
>Report buyer to ebay
>Go into PayPal and respond to chargeback with Tracking Information proving the item was received

It's being review by PayPal right now...is there anything else I can do to win this case or am I out a $450 item?

>>798152

Would you be willing to tell me which county, or general region in GA you are in? I'm in semi-rural Bartow County, and who doesn't want to spend 10 hours a week buying things from hicks that don't know what they're worth to make some extra cash?

>>799269
"consolidate pricing"?
isn't this a federal offense?

>>799385

Nah, that item was really weird and It's the first time I ever saw someone from my state sell it. He's a city away so I wanted to let him know that he's going to need luck since I'm the best seller of that item.

>>799399
lol well it's eBay so he should be fine, I used to help out new sellers but after being on here a while now I've realized people like to step over others.

He's basically asking us to have the same price so we both can have an equal chance of selling.

>>799390

Yea I'm in two Chargebacks right now

>$9.98
>$69.69

Already refunded the 9.98 guy because I don't want to waste my time for $10. The $69.69 guy has a chance at winning his scam though :(

You really can't do anything than show the tracking/receipt of shipment when they ask for photos.

>Pic related
Buyer kept changing his reason for the chargeback, lol

>Buyer gives me offer on item.
>Accept.
>Item will ship Priority mail.
>Buyer then sends me a message, asking if I can ship it 1-2 days Priority Mail.
>Explain to them that I have no control over speed.
>Buyer still hasn't paid.

FUCK

>>800342

Should have said yes, I mean Priority is 1-2 days regardless. So if he left a negative, eBay would remove.

>Mmm, Sunday orders

>>799609
How the fuck is this legal?

I'm pretty sure I'm done with ebay if they don't give me my fucking money. I don't do this as a job, I'm out of work and selling shit I own to survive.

>>800355
>banned Chinese
Storytime?

>>800342
>>800355
if you're high enough volume it would be worth it to open accounts with courriers like ups and fedex (in addition to usps)

you can get huge discounts and start making like 10-50$ on shipping costs

there are some sites that will do it for you but you need to prove you're high enough volume (check out eshipper)

>>800396

True, I usually only use Fed/UPS on really large orders. Other than that, if you have the right Priority box, you should be fine. $10 to ship anything 70LB and under is petty gud.

>>800382
It isn't but who's going to fight Paypal/eBay?

>>800393
I keep a list of big time eBay sellers overseas that have finally got what they deserved. These guys have hundred of negative feedbacks/defects and are allowed to keep selling, eBay is now banning them (slowly).

Ex: http://www.ebay.com/usr/friend2313

>mmm, weekend orders

>>800404
just dont forget that even if stuff is light if it doesn't fit in those boxes then you'll end up paying way more

also if you cram it in to the box chances are it WILL get damaged and the person will return it

>>800409

lol Ikr, but I really...really hate UPS. I don't know, after what they did to me on Christmas week it's just been a no for me. Might just be my area...

Also I know you've heard of Parcel select, great program they have with USPS. Though it makes everything arrive 1-2 weeks..

>>800414
something that's really cool with them is media mail or w/e it's called

you can ship cds or dvds ultra cheap on the condition that it can be opened at any post office at any time

not a problem if it's all legit stuff and it costs like 2$ or something

>>800404

You know all they do is create a new account and start anew, right? In many cases the templates are already saved and it's just plug n' play.

>>800418

Yea, and if they open it and discover that the item isn't media mail qualified, they'll fuck your shit up. Don't be that blue gum that uses Media Mail for video games and the like.

>>800521

true true, and eBay knows but does nothing about it.

Just like they did with the Confederate flag ordeal. Amazon took down every Confederate flag in less than an hour. eBay on the other hand let sells sell thousands before closing. Talking about "we're working hard to resolve this issue". HAHAH.

>>800521
How is a video game not media? I thought you could mail discs or books with it?

>>799390
You should get that money back so long as you have that tracking #. Might help to get someone on PP on the phone if it's really getting to you.

>>801416

http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/173.htm

Refer to 4.0 Content Standards for Media Mail

>>799390
You should be covered by PayPal seller protection.

This shit really sucks, and just recently happened to me for less than $10.

Firstly, if you are sure the buyer is scamming you, report them to ic3.gov. Report to eBay, though it looks like you already have.

Contact PayPal, and they should remove the hold.

Just won a similar case...

>Buyer wins auction.
>Hasn't paid yet.

tfw waiting for da dolla bill yo

>>798220

You'll find retail stores on Ebay?
Why?
Because it's exposure to a very large market. I agree with you that running your own store and advertising is a great way to make more money but when you really break down the numbers, Ebay can provide great value to sellers.

Also it can be tough to sell used goods on your own website because there can be a lack of buyer confidence. Sure some products like furniture would be better off advertising and selling locally (similar to your car thing) because people can come/touch/feel and thus build up the confidence to buy. Online however, I can have a used laptop and have some guy buy off my website and laugh my ass off if it doesn't work yet on Ebay they have buyer protection.

>>799609

PLEASE READ IF SOMEONE EVER CLAIMS SOMEONE USED THEIR CREDIT CARD WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION:

>Inform the buyer that you are sorry about this situation and will cooperate with their local police to report the incident.

You do this because a) it covers your ass and b) it scares the shit out of them and gets them to drop it because they're usually full of shit.

Saw someone on reddit talk about how a Mom said their son took their credit card without their permission. BAM. Admitted credit card fraud right there. Report to the police and don't look back. Be as prompt and cooperative and tear them a new one.

>>801518

A lot of times you'll see parents pull this shit off because they'll keep the item and then get a refund. They're fucks and need to be slammed as hard as possible.

>>801516

It's mostly exposure.

I've mentioned on here before but I buy shit from gunbroker and sell it on eBay. I can sometimes quadruple my money just because of the exposure.

Shit, bought something the other day for $75 that's probably going to net me $300 on eBay before fees when it comes in tomorrow.

>mfw someone said that sales around 4th of July would start slowing down.
>mfw they've been speeding up recently.
>mfw $$$ sold yesterday.
>mfw projected yearly earnings higher.

>>801744
nice

I'm auctioning something on ebay, but the price is too fucking low.

I'm thinking about just letting the auction end and simply take the negative feedback or bidding on the item myself with and alternative account so I don't have to ship anything and I keep the item to sell later.

any suggestion?

>>801843
>Make a false account and win action
>don't pay with false account
>Send messages to eachother
>Make claim against false account

>>801744

Historically for me, yes, they do slow down, but this year has been very odd. Historically April and May have been my two big months outside of November/December but this year I recorded my worst April in history, and that's six fucking years. May was solid but June has eclipsed that beyond my wildest dreams.

But seriously, fuck April this year, and it was my birth month too. After fees and shit I barely made enough money to pay my basic bills. Luckily I keep a reserve and all but still, you get the point.

>>801874

Not like any of us would ever do that because we're all honest sellers. :)

>>801874
>>801878
What if somebody happens to win the auction, what's the best way to get out of the situation?

M-making it.
Could have been more but Aliexpress left me hanging waiting for stock for a whole week.

>>796779
no

>>801874

Not really worth losing your main account over shill bidding.

Fairly easy for anyone to know it's you bidding, we can see what else you have bidded on.

i'm thinking of finally making the move from a local auctioning site to ebay, the product i'm selling will more than likely be exclusively bought by americans.

i'm shipping from SE europe and i've never done anything that includes the following words : paypal, ebay, stocks, shipping, so how do i get this started?

Quick question, if I'm ordering something from Aliexpress and the seller uses EMS or DHL to ship it, am I going to get fucked with hidden costs or import duty?

What aliexpress shit sells the best?

>>802022

No, DHL usually does not bother you with taxes unless it's something really big.

FedEx on the other hand will charge you once in a while.

EMS is USPS so anything can happen, even your package not arriving.

>>802010
>I'm shipping from SE Europe

You already fucked up, whatever you're selling, someone else is probably already selling in the U.S., why would we want to buy from another country?

>>802070

Deez nuts

>>802085
SE europe guy, i found a local product that can't really be found in the US or anywhere else for that matter, i'm not that worried about selling it as much as starting up an ebay account.

>>802088

Well by the time you've sold 100 of it, someone else will copy you. Mostly someone in China, then follows the U.S. You'd be out in a month or so.

I'd only order enough to sell quickly if I was you.

>>802090
thing is, my product is niche enough not to be copied, but still valuable, as a collectors' item, meaning that a fake wouldn't be sought after, so i'm not worried about chinks copying me and manufacturing several trillion copies a day.

>>802085
>No, DHL usually does not bother you with taxes unless it's something really big.

Sweet, thank you.

How many views until someone bought your first product? I'm sitting at 20 right now. Having no feedback probably doesn't help my cause

>>802117

First product? lol it was around 5 views...so like a few minutes after it was posted.

Of course this was because I was the lowest price, and still am.

Try changing your title a bit, I heard eBay's algorithms are now based on that as well.

>>802125
Will do

>>802088
pay debnts! you're not fooling anyone, soon when martial law is imposed goodluck getting things shipped out . if its food it wont pass customs , on ebay there is no such niche that hasn't at least 1 seller selling it .

>>802010
also to create an ebay account you first need to buy ebay stock, then transfer the money from bank-paypal-bitcoins- then pay for a gold ebay membership to sell your products . gold membership cost $1000 per year . there will be a summer promotion that will reduce the price to $850 not including fees

>>802131
SE europe guy again, not even greek but it makes me wonder if i'll be able to buy things cheap from greece once shit hits the fan over there.

oh, and does anyone have any idea where the dollar is headed in the next few months, up or down?

>>802141
south east europe is greece , anything above it is just eastern europe

/biz/, I've just boosted my bidding with my dad's account. Only now have I realised that it was from the same IP. How much of an assfuckery am I in? Is eBay checking for IPs?

>>802193
You might be fine, just never do it again.

>>802193
being that retard why live ?

>>802200
Fine. Telling other friends from other IPs (even from all around the world) to boost it is absolutely fine isn't it?

>>802206
eBay can see bidding history.

So if your friend in Canada bids on 30 of your items and never pays, you can still get banned.

Protip: Put the starting price at the bare minimum you will take for the item. Never offer free shipping on auction items.

>>802228
Oh I see. I really hope everything will be alright. Fuck, I really didn't think this through, I'm really dumb.

>>802234
the best thing you can do to make up for your mistake is to always wear a condom

hey /biz/. Pretty new here, but had a few questions. I want to sell some stuff on eBay, but hear horror stories about people not paying and keeping the product, leaving you out of luck. I was wondering as a person who wants to get into it, how do I not fall for things like this? Also, what is the best way to accept payment? Paypal? Lastly, most of the stuff I want to sell, I've gotten from garage sales and things like that, so it's not perfect, and I mostly just want to get rid of it, but not get ripped off for it off of craigslist. Is it a good idea to use eBay? Thank you for the help. Pic related, an example of something I would sell.

So get this

2014:
>Buyer loses case on eBay
>Buyer rages
>Everything ends

2015:
>eBay splits with Paypal
>Buyer loses case on eBay
>Buyer opens case on Paypal
>Buyer now has a chance of winning again

????
Paypal is still owned by eBay, why are they letting them do this? You have to go through two cases now.

Now the buyer has three chances to scam, eBay/Chargebacks and now Paypal too.

>>802242

If you're outside the U.S., there should be more ways for accepting payments other than Paypal.

You're looking to sell Vintage, anything can happen.

Since everything is used, you can't do anything but accept a return, hoping it's not a swtich.

eBay is no longer a garage sale

Let me say that again, eBay is no longer a garage sale.

>2015 May Updates
>New sellers can only list 20 things for free
>New sellers can only list 10 items a month (until they build up)
>New sellers have their money held until the item is delivered
So that Treadmill you sold that costs $100 to ship, well you'll have to have $100 already in your pocket to ship it.

>>802327

>Update


iWon...again

Now we wait for a possible Chargeback...

>On the phone with eBay getting cases closed
>Phone vibrates
>Phone vibrates
>Phone vibrates
What the fuck, I don't have any "friends".
>Phone vibrates
>Tell guy to wait
>Put phone on speaker
>Look at phone


GodILovEeBay

Didn't even remember what I was talking about afterwards

>Start basic store.
>Forget that fees are less.
>Sell 2 items, 1 @ 4% final value, and 1 @ 6% final value.


mfw eBay has stopped fucking me.

How much do you guys make in a year of selling on Ebay?

>>802390

...I don't think most of us have been selling for a year.

Anyways

Just got through shipping
>Checked eBay to make sure Stamps.com pushed the data back to eBay
>7 Items say "Print Shipping Label"
FFfffffffuuucck Stamps fucked up again


Took me a few minutes to realize I forgot to refresh before printing and already sold 7 things in the hour.

It's like when the mailman comes, and you know all he has is bills.

>Accept buyer's offer within 2 minutes.
>They wait hours to a day+ to pay.

>>802390

Been selling for six years.

Not going to give you any specific numbers but I own three vehicles outright, about 60 acres of land across four plots, and a house. Of course i live in redneck land and everything is cheap but still.

I've never had another job.

10% is way too high. What are good ebay alternatives?

>>802473

Craiglist, it's 0%.

>>802522
That 0% comes with a lot more rape and AIDS though.

>>802335
>you'll have to have $100 already in your pocket to ship it.
Last I checked, the money can be used to ship the item, but not withdrawn, assuming you use ebay to pay for shipping.

>>802390
It's been climbing steadily. I make more than minimum wage @ 40hrs/wk. I have a real day job too.

I just started selling on ebay this week, and found the 21 day hold on paypal to be fucking excruciating. I have $200 just sitting there waiting for me to use, but no I have to wait until July 20th. I understand their reasons behind it, but I have no money to pay for shipping for 5 packages now. That's why I'm selling on ebay. How did you guys get around this shit? Is there even a way or do I just have to wait it out?

My mom made a shit ton of money selling jewelry on Tophat to rich people a few years ago. I've literally seen her flip a ~35 dollar necklace into a $250 bid. She even got big enough to where staff would run entire auctions with just her products. She eventually moved into designer things and expensive jewellery and makeup. She quit and liquidated it all for like 3k in wholesale, but she is getting back into it. Maybe she could teach me something

I'm using eBay UK and I can transfer money from PayPal to my bank account straight away.

>>802569
How? Are you a new user?

>selling some old collectables
>two of them sell
>to two separate 0 feedback buyers
>one of them messages "how do I pay for this" after it says in the description to use PayPal

How screwed am I

>>802535
you should call ebay

>>802594
Does that actually work?

>>802193
your an idiot. and other buyers can figure it out.

>>802443

Are you a picker or something? Do you have a niche?

>>802535
There's an option to "pay later" when you buy shipping through eBay, it should take it out when you get the actual money from the sale.

>>802535
>week, and found the 21 day hold on paypal to be fucking excruciating. I have $200 just sitting there waiting for me to use, but no I have to wait until July 20th. I understand their reasons behind it, but I have no money to pay for shipping for 5 packages now. That's why I'm selling on ebay. How did you guys get around this shit? Is there even a way or do I just have to wait it out?

If you print your packing slips through eBay, they should release the shipping amounts from the holds.

>>802592
"how do I pay for this" guy is probably legit, other guy is gonna take you to the cleaners though.

>>802599

Yes. Niche used to be video games, now I just sell whatever I can make money on. But I do a lot of sporting goods aka gun stuff.

>>802473

No it's not...

>>802599

I need to become this again. I used to make so much on this.

>>802594
95 percent of the time for me. but I've been on there forever. you have to keep pushing if the first person can't help you. they are indian and have names like tom, john, etc. they are reading from a script so it takes a little patience. they get calls for far more complicated things all the time.

How the FUCK do you guys find shit to sell on eBay? Best I could ever do was buy shit from garage sales and Amazon, is this what you guys do?

>>802390

enough to fuck your mom

>>797748

IMO both Amazon and eBay are good selling venues. You just have to know the rules for both.

I've done about 160k on Amazon so far this year. Working on building my eBay account for my business, but I've done maybe 8-10k on eBay in the last three months on a new account.

The eBay account will be getting Top Rated Plus and Powerseller next month.

>>803032
only 160k thats bottom feeder tier, i cleared 1 mil 6 months ago , bought a house, paid off student loans , upgraded my truck , rest im going to invest in other things , when i make my second mil ill buy a lambo , travel the world and swim in pussy

>>803046
Drive that baby around in the Hollywood Hills, anon.

>Find item I can make profit on.
>Ask seller to enable best offer.
>They raise the price by $15.
>Buy immediately.

Oh well, I'll still make profit in the end.

>>803048
ohh boy i will ill put pics here and brag like an ass , but money is really easy to be made

>>802753
> No it's not...

All the local auction sites have no fees. Surely there's an international competitor to ebay that does not gouge you anally.

>>803046
How the fuck do you find shit to sell that works?

>>803008
I have one very specific product type that I order from Aliexpress.
Easy 300 quid a week in profit, could make more if I wanted to.

>>803237

Why do you keep asking this?

Are you just looking for a handout? No one is that dumb here.

>>803051

>>802532

last i checked you were wrong dumbfuck.

for all new buyers EVERY FUCKING PENNY IS IN LIMBO UNTIL YOUR BUYER IS SATISFIED WITH THEIR DRAGO DILDO

that means your funds could be sitting there for up to a month

>>803306

Someone a lil pissy aye

I think he means when you add the shipping to the item that you will be able to use the shipping to ship the item.

So if the item is "free shipping", the system will not release until 3 days after it's been delivered.

Then again I might be wrong, been a while since I was part of that horrible group.

>>803311

Again, no, you won't. You have to pay for the shipping with your own, released money and wait for them to release the entire amount of the transaction.

>>803312

Well that sucks, funny how eBay takes fees out of the shipping as well. Highly illegal but no one does anything about it.

Of course they do it because people will sell their iPhones for 1.00 with $300 shipping.

>>803306
Sorry buddy,

When I began selling on ebay they didn't even hold money at all. Then they held money but allowed you to use it to pay for shipping, releasing the money from the actual purchase after they received it.

So kid, instead of being an whiny little bitch who is way to late to the game, just pony up the dough. Your mom will probably give you an advance on your allowance if you do some extra chores.

>>802753

It is when you're selling for 3K and lose $455 in fucking tax. It's theft.

>>803137

"Regional". You're paying the fee for exposure to a huge market. You can make more in extra sales and by marking prices up to this increased user base.

>>803341
Good luck making 3k in sales that fast or selling for as much elsewhere.


Craigslist I have to charge items cheaper just to even gain some attraction to it and then I have to deal with the time it takes to schedule something, meet up, and potentially deal with flakers or people that reschedule at the last second.

Ebay is pretty easy. Sell the item, print the label, package it and ship it out. If they return it within 14 days I provide a return service where they pay the return shipping. All automated.

>>803341

Just keep selling...and selling.....and selling.....

"She sells sea shells by the seashore, then she found eBay. now she sells sea shells by the fee shores"

How do you find out about what sells best on Ebay?

>>803046

How much did you spend to buy the inventory to sell off in the first place?

Are you selling antiques? What's your margin after fees?

>>803322

>buddy
>making assumptions
>mom jokes

gen x detected

>>803455
>Acting like a know-it-all
>Insulting people who give information

Millennial detected

From paypal on new ebay sellers: "If you print labels and pay for shipping through PayPal or eBay,** the cost of shipping will be released from your pending balance shortly after purchase. Printing labels on eBay and PayPal is free. You’re charged only the cost of shipping."

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/payment-holds

>>803433
Teraspeak

>Buy item which I can make profit with.
>Select BANK A in PayPal, as I don't have enough PayPal balance.
>PayPal selects BANK B, and transaction goes through.

WAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!

Now I'm looking at a $25 overdraw bank fee.

>>803535

LOLOLLOLOLLOLOL

-Rothschild

>>803348
> "Regional". You're paying the fee for exposure to a huge market. You can make more in extra sales and by marking prices up to this increased user base.

> implying the ebay buyers will tolerate a 13% markup

This would be a great opportunity for someone to start such a site if one doesn't exist. Halve the fees, pick a good name, and you'll make glorious profit.

I checked out ebid, seemingly the only alternative, and they have quite reasonable fees, but only 1/25 the daily traffic.

Probably dumb question. But where do you source your boxes for shipping from? I've been selling things here and there and just use Priority mail flat rate boxes but I want to start selling these car spotlights I've been getting at the junkyard and they are too long for those boxes.

>>803535
>Have $0 in PayPal account.
>Pay for shipping label.
>PayPal takes it out of wrong bank again.

mfw you have to go to the classic site to select primary bank.

>>803610
USPS has lots of Priority Mail flat rate/non flat rate boxes for free online. Maybe one of those will work?

>>803561

Apparently they tolerate it just fine. Items keep selling daily. You can also eat the fees and move items faster and then just reinvest the earnings to expand your store.

By all means go for it. Yahoo apparently had an auction site at one time but stopped.

Also that site looks like shit lol.

>>803610

You can buy them in bulk. Reuse them if source online. Or you can buy the recyclable brown paper and wrap it around USPS/FedEx/UPS boxes and then put the label on top of it (that requires time though).

>>803610

I reuse boxes people send me and then I get free boxes from my mom's job (grocery store).

>mfw spending $500+ on shit on eBay today to resell.

>>803535
This happened to me about 5 years back

>move cities
>switch to online bank because my old bank's nearest branch was 3 hours away
>switch primary account to my new bank
>delete old account off
>paypal makes a series of 5 withdrawals from my old bank via debit card that now has no money in it
>125$ in overdraft fees

>Check for my items on search result
>New seller selling what I sell
>Steals description/pictures
>Call eBay
>Report
Few hours later
>"That item does not exist"

Mfw

>>803610

lol I just buy them off eBay, I usually use Priority boxes mostly so I order them for free with Stamps.

>>803756
What are you buying? or at least the category if you dont want to be specific. I want to start selling but I cant think of anything that doesnt have competition

>>803800

>Seller puts listing back up with his own info/shitty phone photos
>Seller undercuts me
>Reduce price to where I only make a $1 just to piss him off
>Mfw I'm actually making more since he has less quantity, so he bought for more $
>He'll probably stop copying after this


>>803810
>That doesn't have competition
You're better off selling your holes

Before I get into this, what should I know. Any tips from you guys? Thanks. Im planning on buying cool packs of cards and gauges (piercings) from alibaba and reselling them on ebay

>>803822


You should know that eBay sellers will undercut you even if it means they aren't making money. So if you plan on going, go big.

Seeing you like to share your items, I don't see you lasting long.

>>803827
Is ebay the only place you guys sell? do you have any luck on craigslist or flea markets?

I also have other bigger ideas in mind to sell

>>803831

Used to flip alot of phones on Craigslist, it's a cesspool of scammers nowadays so there's no use.

Also endless no-shows, people calling for dumb questions, 419 scams, virus links.

>Flea markets
a are shit, over saturated and only operate on the weekends. Also I'd feel dirty selling at a flea so that's out of the question.

We eBayers/Resellers are basically The guy you see downtown with a table setup selling iPhone cases/shitty rings. Except we are doing it online, bigger, and better.

>>803831
I run my own website and have a store also. I use C list and eBay to sell items. My success with those is around 80% as in I sell 80% of the things I list on there. Going to be quitting my own biz soon though and jumping ship to a bigger company with the same concept as my biz. Self employed life is cool in that you don't have anyone telling you what to do but having to figure out everything you have to do on your own is a pain in the ass. I'll still be on eBay and C list though for that extra income.

Sup guys

I don't have a lot of products to sell on eBay. What I do have is a shit ton of classic, good condition books. Ranging from Greek and roman classics to new classics. Is it worth while to sell these on eBay? Anyone had similar success?

>>803844
This. How hot are books in general? When it comes to books, what sells and what doesn't?

>>803831

If an item is big or an item that may not be moving as much I will list them on Craigslist

For items I'd sell easily on Ebay I'd have to lower in price on Craigslist to usually get buyers and then spend the time dealing with them in person. Ebay I just sit back and let people look at my shit and decide if they want to hand over money to Paypal which moves it to me.

>>803810
'TECHNOLOGY'

>>803831

Good stuff goes on eBay. Trashy shit goes to flea market first, then public auction, anything left over goes to thrift store.

>>803836

Plenty of mid-week flea markets in the Southeast. I go to flea markets Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

>>803889
Spooky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1P-AEaEp8&feature=youtu.be

I don't visit any other board so I'm going to vent here instead.

>10Pm
>Walk to bodega
>See 10+ people in there at once
>AbortGTFOTooMuchIgnoranceInOnePlace.jpg
>Decide I'd just buy my Monster with cash instead of wasting time using debit
>Ghetto drunk woman at cashier is arguing with her friend
3Min later
>Still arguing
>See my guy (the boss) in the back and go to give him money instead
>Heading outside trying to gtfo as soon as possible
>Ghetto chick sees me and asks for a dollar
>Starts following me home calling me a cheap ass

I NEED TO GET BETTER AT eBAY SO I CAN GTFO OF HERE!!!
She's the reason I don't leave packages outside for the mailman!

Also a couple more questions:

Should I start out buying less and work my way up? (Like buy 50, then buy 100 once they sell)

Do I need to get a sample from sellers on alibaba? Or can it just be immediate buying like on ebay or amazon?

>>803622
I don't know anyone who likes the new site better. But I guess they felt the need to screw with everyone.

>>803970
Well if you buy more then you assume greater risk, but also a greater profit potential, so it's just up to you.

>>803970

Get a sample.

>>804070
Shit, already ordered. It was only $20 though, so its not too big of a deal. (He had good rep too) Does aliexpress cover any scams though?

>>804078

Depends, what did you order?

>>804078

Usually on aliexpress they don't get the money until you confirm reception.

>>803844
>>803858

Anybody?? I figured someone here would have some input

>>804273
Weird old people crafting books are good, I hear. You might want to do some research on your own.

>>804273

There should be apps that show you how successful the books are on Amazon and Ebay.

Your best bet is to get the $40 store membership thing on Amazon and then ship off as many as you can together. The $40 gets rid of the $1 variable fee per item so after you get past 40 items you'll see your fees overall decrease.

>>804297

I've done well with vintage cookbooks in the past. Fucking hipsters buy that shit up.

>not that i'm bitching, I'd guess 1/5th of my customer base are hipsters buying old shit to look hip and vintage to their hipster friends

>>804273
There are people who just deal in books for resale and make a living doing it.

The hardcore ones have PDAs and barcode scanners. You can download apps on your smartphone if you want to try it out, but it's fairly slow compared to an actual scanner.

>>797048
I bought a bunch of Kangertech Substanks/kboxes and evod megas (1800$ lot from china)

Sold them on ebay and amazon for 2 weeks: almost got banned from e-bay and they deleted 30 transactions I had, with angry customers etc. No feedback for the sales.

amazon kept shutting down the listings I was piggybacking on and this caused a huge race to the bottom. Ended up selling the resto of my stock to my pot dealer.

made 1k profit in a month, but fuck that never again!

>>800355
quick questions about stamps.com i have free $5 worth of stamps but im obligated to spend 10 usd. Can i make the stamp like a PDF like how when you buy stamp inside ebay there an option to make it into a PDF since i dont have a printer i need to send it to my uncle to print from his job. Thank you. Can i do the PDF thing with stamps that come as ebay can?

>>796495
But I would expect a new item to come with everything in the box faggot.

This is Gamestop tier bullshit.

>Sell game as new.
>Opened case. No shrinkwrap. Sometimes not even artwork in case. Other times they take out offers and codes from the case. They consider a damaged case still to be new if game works.

No nigger. That is not how the word "new" works when selling things.

I had a faggot try to sell me a "new factory sealed" usb hub without any cables or power adapter that it comes with from the factory. Tried to say that he never said it came with cables. Tried to redirect me to another listing where he was selling the cables.He got his shit pushed in and had to ship the cables and adapter free of charge.

>>804388

You get to select what printer you want before printing.

So you can save it as an XPS doc and print it if that's what you're asking.

>>804415

That's annoying.

I dislike when people list used items under "New (other)". The other is suppose to be in your situation where they're missing retail packaging, manuals, or other accessories.

I've also had new items sold to me with the seals broken... Like the fuck is that.

>Trying to flip good craigslist deals on eBay
>Maybe 20% of the people I message bother responding, much less try to haggle
>They update their ad the next few days and continue to not respond

Why do you do this. I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS

>>804443
in ebay instead of printing you can download as PDF since i dont have a printer i send it to my uncle who he prints it at his job. wondering if stampscom has that? thank you.

>>804506
Print to file is a thing, look it up.

>>804388
download cute pdf

>>804297
Where are you selling, anon?

I'm cleaning relative's basements, do I don't want stock just lying around.

>>803813
>You're better off selling your holes
That also has stiff competition

>Defect rate is now 3.0%

kill me

>>804506

>So you can save it as an XPS doc and print it if that's what you're asking.

>>804760
True true


Soo, just spent 3.2k on a product

>pay for UPS shipping
>guy tells me 4am in the morning
>"We give wrong price anon"
>"it actually $1500 more to ship to you"
>Tell the guy to cancel and refund
>Goes nuts telling me he's already paid the money I sent an hour ago
GoodThingIDidn'tUseWestern/Wire
>Thinking of canceling
>Go to Paypal to cancel
>He video chats me
>Shows me his boss/co-workers telling me how sorry they are
>FuckYouYouPieceOFShit.gif
>I feel cucked

I know he's right since every other supplier of this item costs about $1500 more, but I thought he knew his shit.
Asked him many times for total price and this what happens. Fucking hell sometimes I wish the Japanese were the Chinese.

>>804775

My future rate dropped to average two days ago for shipping time, now it's back to normal.

Blame me for USPS problems, okay...

>>804787

They knew damn well what they were doing. They're just trying to lure people in with the $1500 lower price and then tug on heartstrings to get you to pay the proper price.

>>804775
It's killing me too, anon. I'm a pleb at this, but so far the last three buyers have been flaky.

>Someone makes me an offer on something I secretly desperately want to sell
>Come down in price but don't meet theirs
>They never ever respond to try and haggle with me, which is all I want

Alternatively

>Put up a really nice piece of equipment
>Leave best offer checked by mistake
>Garbage offers start rolling in

Fucking eKikes

anyone here have experience with selling internationally? I haven't bothered with trying before because I picture it's the same type of scenario of shipping items without tracking.

Are there sure-fire methods of selling internationally that won't result in a confrontation?

>>804825
I sold something to a canadian by accident, but it ended up working very well.

Shipping was first class, so it came with tracking and cost ~8 bucks, with the buyer paying half.

I stick to white people and first world countries, I don't touch developing nations.

>>804825

Don't trust anyone South of the Mediterranean. and don't trust Eastern Europeans. And Russians. Japanese are decent, Belgiumese people are great, Bagged Milkers are splendid. And fuck Brasil

>>804787
>Fucking hell sometimes I wish the Japanese were the Chinese

This.

I'm hearing alot about flipping items on ebay here. I'm a new seller looking to make some good side money while I go to school and have a part time job. What are some good routes to go? I've mostly been selling off stuff I already owned but I'm looking to branch out. Video games are a dead market on ebay, I'm not retarded. But I've recently been looking at flipping phones and other current tech. I just want some advice on how to not suck ass at this.

>List item FOR PARTS & NOT WORKING.
>Description states, item does not work blah blah blah.
>Buyer sends message, asking if item works.


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>804795

Exactly, and I'm just a pussy for believing him. His English is shit and he seems like an intern, so I do understand.
Also his co-worker was kinda hot so I was a little lost for words during the Skype call.

>>804905

>"I messed up anonkun"
>It's okay
>"I disgrace family, I kill self now"
>No no, you don't...
*Background Falling*
>Hello?
>...Hello??

lol at least they'll try not to mess up next time.

>>804825

Haven't had any issues. I've also heard Ebay tends to side with sellers too if there are issues like them claiming the item never arrived when it showed delivered.

>>804825

Also Ebay apprently charges the buyers way more than they need to so that they can pocket extra money. It's apparently cheaper to provide DHL shipping and make them pay for it then to let them go through Ebay.

This can encourage more international buyers because technically your item will be cheaper then if they had gone through the Ebay program. Overall I just let Ebay handle it.

>>804985

Unfortunately most of these people are fucks. They're usually wage slaves being told to do shit because they need the job no matter what. They'll promise you the world but it's a shot in hell if you ever see something great happen.

I've had to deal with coders from China, India, etc. and it's a shitshow. There's a reason why only the very basic of basic work is being outsourced over seas. Serious companies can not afford to go a cheaper route if means the quality isn't 100% there. They'd rather get what they paid for.

How did you find the item that you're selling in a niche?
Did you discover it while selling random stuff from thrift markets, or did you do a bunch of research before hand and know exactly what you needed to do before you got it?

Basically, did you learn from trial and error or is it possible to jump right in a product with enough research?

what are the restrictions like for importing food from asia, then flogging it on ebay?

>>797075
>>797081
I used to do that when I was in the Netherlands (guy from the other thread). It's pretty boring though due to caps on the amount of milk jars you can buy per supermarket, which means you need to go to all the fucking supermarkets and drug stores in the area, which if you don't have a car is a pain in the ass.

Also, you most likely need a chinese "affiliate" to get to the customers. Few of them speak english. But I knew a chinese guy that was doing 4-5k€ a month out of this.

>>805156
Food is a pain to import. Prepackaged is a little easier. I assume you mean "I want to import ramen, snacks, and drinks from Japan", means it is doable, but not profitable.

>>804452

I always air on the conservative side. Sometimes I sell open box store returns but I always list them as used.

Unless I know the motherfucker is factory sealed and it's insides has never felt a virgin's touch, it's used.

The only exception to this is one product that I sell, and it's only because they come from the distributor in a pack and I split them up individually, but I still bag/seal them myself. And IIRC, I think that listing is marked as New (Other)

>>805128

Luck, honestly. At least for me and what i'm selling right now.

and everything else is random thrift store kind of shit. catch all. if it makes shekels i'm a slayer

>>805325

Milk keeps less than a week, and you claim you shipped it from Netherlands to China?

>>805385

Thank you. Your business will be in it for the long term because you're not fucking around.

I've received new items that have been opened and shit but they claim it's never been used. They can argue all they want but Ebay will hit them with a defect which hurts them in the long run because they tried to make a couple of extra dollars.

>>804452
I use new (other) when the item is new and factory sealed, but the packaging is beat up.

>>805463

Hell even if it's not that bad in shape it'd be fine new. New (other) at least my idea of it, is that the item is new and never used but something is missing, seal has been open, no manuals, etc.

I don't understand why people think because they used something twice in a month that it can come off as new.

>>804906
Samefag just looking for advice to get off the ground

>>805435
He's talking about powdered baby formula. It lasts for years.

>>805506
Do current tech at your own risk. I don't touch tech because of the rate it goes obsolete, the level of scammers, and the risk of idiots buying the product.

>>804906
>Video games are a dead market on ebay
Nah, you just need to scour the various other markets for cheap stuff then dump it on ebay.

I spent 500 bux on games last week and will probably get $1200 once they're finished selling. If you don't have garbage then people usually buy them quickly, but the return maybe isn't SUPER AMAZING like some people expect it to be, and there are better avenues to make dosh if you know your market.

Games are just so easy because they're easy to store and ship, so it's not a hassle to have a few stacks sitting around for 2 weeks as they sell.

>>805538
dude powdered formula in euros is expensive as fuck plus shipping , i remember searching this when i saw in the news about it the poisoning.

>>805435
>>805325
we are going to need some more infor if your legit , you claim to make 4-5 yet never occured to buy a car to continue, why did u stop?

im going with bullshit on this .

i live in a country that makes some healthy milk, there are two version the long term which expires in 3 weeks and the short term which expires in a week . where could i find someone in china to buy them?

>>805649
He said the Chinese guy who was exporting them made 4-5k, not him. The poster was just a smurf buying the max per store.

He is talking about powdered formula. Chinese are willing to pay a premium for it because they don't want their babies to die.

I live in the US, formula isn't cheap, but it's not retard expensive, the powder lasts for like 2 years.

>>805662
oh ok , but still he said he used to do it , how much did he make ? and why did he stop? in euro those prices were double the dollar prices, clearly a greedy attempt by companies who know parents will pay anything for their child

>>805669
If I recall, in another thread he said he was only make a few euros per package.

not worth the hassle , but where cou;d i find chinese importer , because if they want fresh milk imported i could , plane refrigerated cargo 2 days tops, expires 2 weeks , seem doable

>>802628
it actually worked out the otherway around.

"how do I pay for this" flaked out while the other one paid a few hours later.

It's only like a 15 item, and it ships with tracking, so I'm not to worried.

>>805662

>Chinese are willing to pay a premium for it because they don't want their babies to die.

Unless it's a girl.

>>805649
This >>805662

The system was: My chinese friend (not the 4-5k a month, but the one I worked with) transferred me 1k. He was in touch with the customers and told me all we needed to buy. I bought it during the week all around my town and the neighbouring town, everyday.

>>805675
The jars were usually 12-14€ ea, and I made 3.5-4€ per jar. I accounted all that and when money was low he transferred 1k more. I packed everything up and he dealt with the packaging material + pickup of packages, which by the way was set by a chinese courier company (there were many, and they ONLY picked up boxes of milk powder).

On a good month I made 600-700€. I know, not much, but I was a broke student by the time and considering it took less than a part-time, it wasn't bad.

The guy that made 4-5k a month had no life, though. He was going from uni to drive his car all over the neighbouring towns till everything closed. He used to send around ~80 boxes (x6 jars each) a week, while we were sending 25-50 a month.

>>805649
Forgot to answer the question. My friend was the one in touch with the customers. The webpages where he got them from were all in chinese, so I'd say the best way is to get a chinese friend to help you out, or join one that's already doing it.

They don't buy from everywhere, though. Netherlands and Germany are big. They also get some from London, but not so much. I never bothered, but I guess google would give you the answers to that.

>>805683
I don't think anyone would want to buy 'imported fresh milk'. Also, they want baby formula, not regular milk. And even if they did, how much would you have to sell it for to make any benefit after crazy transportation costs? No way, man.

So this just happened

>Selling generic iWatch accessories
>Sell out, listing is still live though (just hidden)
>Listing says "For Apple Watch"
>Description/Title doesn't say "For"
>Get flagged and account suspended for 3 days


How the hell does eBay not understand that it clearly wasn't meant to say it was made by Apple???

Not even that, the listing was empty! "(0) Available" since I stopped selling but forgot to delete.

And lastly, I had another listing with the same type of problem that wasn't even touched!


Took about 20min call but the restriction is removed now...

>>806162
>They don't buy from everywhere, though. Netherlands and Germany are big.

Why don't they want my American milk? I can ship by the pallet.

>>805538
So what would you recommend I invest in to make a decent profit on Ebay? If not current tech then what? Knockoff gucci handbags? Old cell Phones? Those actually go for a decent amount an old lg env touch can go for up to 50$. And you can get them pretty cheap.

TL;DR
Current techs out the window, what else?

>>805563
So like Oldies titles like nes, snes, genesis and stuff? Or more recent titles from the 360, ps3, ps4, and xbox 1? Any specific games you could recommend? Again just trying to get my feet off the ground and see what works.

>>806282
probably a chinese seller with a friend on ebay , removing the competition .

>>806158
>>806162
>>806163
thnx for the answers, 700 a month a is perfect for a startin up . ill check it out

>>806444
GBA, DS, 3DS, Gamecube, Wii, SNES, N64 and whatever else is usually what I look for, with the usual Nintendo 1st party games, fan favorite 3rd party games, and JRPGs being the biggest sellers.

You should have an idea of what games would be popular if you've been playing games for awhile now. Like, if you see some old Final Fantasy games for the SNES, then you'd get those, or any of the old JRPGs for PS1, or Smash games, or whatever.

Just recently I bought a Majora's Mask limited edition 3DS XL plus some collector's shit for $150, then immediately resold for $310 a few days later. Just gotta keep an eye out for gems, but you're not really going to make bank like you could off other stuff, and some things take longer to sell than others. Garage sales and estate sales are where you're usually able to get the best stuff, but you usually have no idea what to expect when you go, and will probably be let down, so have 2-3 other types of items to look for while digging through games so you don't leave empty handed.

>>806806
Very helpful thank you! Yeah I'll keep an eye out for old FF titles. I've been looking in the wrong places entirely. Been grabbing up 360 titles like an idiot. Still making a decent return on that though. But I'm guessing not as much as what you have going. Mine is fucking chump change in comparison. I got a lot to learn

>>806830
Xbox games are mostly junk, I don't even really bother with them unless I know it's something cool like MvC3. Nintendo and weeaboo games are where the money and the demand is. Best way to get a large stock is to find some putz selling a bunch of games on craigslist and offer to buy up his whole lot for a lot less than it's worth. Some people will take several hundred dollars upfront if it saves them a lot of hassle, despite that being like %60 sticker price.

Also ask people who are selling stuff if they've got more they wouldn't mind parting with. I got one day today to sell me his whole gamecube and PS2 collection when he listed just 1 game.

Just fish for it.