/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7968007
maybe pick up a hobby?

Try to make it big with the new PoWH.
https://powhcoin.com/buy.html?masternode=0x8b4da1827932d71759687f925d17f81fc94e3a9d

Youre a human, and you need meaning and goals in your life. The lack of these aspects leads to purposelessness and depression. Thats why us people in the mental healthcare stress to get our patients of of their homes, and into meaningful activity where they hopefully experience self efficacy and social affiliation.

If one become a millionaire or retired you dont stop doing meaningful activity on a daily basis. You gotta change your goals and do whatever makes you happy longterm

>Play a video game.
>Learn a language.
>Work out.
>Jerk off.
>Take acid.
>Gamble.
>Fuck a prostitue
>Read a book.
>Ride a bike.
>Cook some decadent bullshit.
Should I just keep listing stuff until you feel inspired?

>>7968007
>Im not depressed
Yeah you are. Everything you're saying screams depression. It's fine, depression is a spectrum, you're on the "not that bad" end.
Everyone needs meaning in life. Go volunteer or something, to give you small goals day to day, that make you feel good, and useful, and meaningful. Start looking at the future - where you want to live, marriage, kids, travel, whatever. Go take some classes in college that interest you, part time. Go learn to sail, or get scuba certified. Take horseback riding lessons - get the fuck out of the house. Start a garden, get a dog.
What you're describing is called "stuck in a rut", and it's common.

You need to occupy your time with more productive activities. Start working out, learn an instrument, learn a language, really learn how to cook, read more, learn a martial art. Just some ideas.

>>7968007
>wake up at 9am
> have a healthy nutritious breakfast
> go to the gym

Do this 5x a week, let your body improvement be a goal.

Come on anon, easy does it

>>7968007
how much money do you make a month after taxes?
do you have lots of savings yet?
whats your financial goal?
do you live in a huge town? maybe you could visit lectures at uni you are interested in. you dont need to write exams and shit, just visit the lectures to learn new stuff youre interested in.

hell, if i had about 5k net a month for 2 days of work i would completely know what to do.
also you probably suffer from genetically induced lack of serotonin (depression)

I feel you anon. I’m 30, work a 9-5 in finance and I struggle to get out of bed even though my company, my boss and my job are great.

I’m worried I’m burnt out, so once I make it in crypto I’m going to take a year or two off from work and maybe do some study or something. I don’t know if it will work but I don’t know what else to do.

I’m 30, long term gf and have good friends.

>>7968103
Thanks, will try to think about the future.

>>7968135
Thanks for making me laugh.

>>7968141
Thanks. Your post actually led me to an interesting article. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-mckenzie/success-and-motivation_b_4179483.html

>>7968175
I did that a year ago too. It felt good but once again, after a while i coult not figure out why im doing this. Sounds dumb, i know. I will get back to it, maybe even today. I actually have a small setup at home.

>>7968258
Im in europe, so somewhere around 2k € / 2.4 USD after taxes. It depends how many "extra development" the maintenance clients order. I think i have actually pretty much achieved my first financial goal, which is to be free from 9-5 job. It seems that i have to just learn to live my new life now. I have never felt the need for big houses or cars, i just wanted to be "free", and i am now. For some reason the existing clients pass on my contacts to new ones and the income increases steadily every month too. So i think its probably 3k € /m already EOY.

>>7968069
THIS

Kids? they suck up 100% of any free time...

>>7968384
You are not aiming high enough. You need a challenge, you've got security, financial freedom thats the ultimate goal for many.

You need more.Not in a greedy sense, but you need to achieve, socialise in a meaningful way. Look at your life, you manage websites and make bank, its detached. You need life, people.

Reasses your goals, aim for humanitarianism. Take your earnings, learn a trade and build things in your community or in some shitty 3rd world country. Not into that? learn biochemistry & robotics, help out amputees. Look at occupational therapy, thats a good mix of psychology and psychical therapy

>>7968410
I will try to word this politely but hobbies seem really pointless if you cant see the purpose in bigger picture. Its like you are offering a rubik's cube to a guy standing on a bridge, about to jump off.

>>7968007

yeah get a parttime job for like 2 times a week. Do a job where you are required to walk around like working in a restaurant or something. walking around is very healthy and you are sitting and lying all the time OP. Humans should move not be stagnant all the time. Just enjoy being around weird people and do not take them to seriously. I also would just play loads of different videogames. So much videogames OP. do not miss out on trying them all out! also maybe try and become good at something artistic or start playing some sport. Golf is very usefull. it allows you to walk around in the sun all day playing some silly game. Only the people that play golf can be mean elitist bastards. You should take that into account.

I know what you mean, OP. I'm a PhD student with a scholarship and after some stressful times things cooled off and I haven't actually worked in more than a month except for going to a few meetings. Life is easy and I have a few girls who I can call and fuck anytime, but things just got stale and I sit here watching YT videos while smoking and looking at crypto, not really doing anything with my time.
I'm growing psychedelic mushrooms at home as a hobby right now and it's the only thing I actually enjoy about my day. Other than that I'm just fantasizing about going to the doctor one day and finding out about some incurable cancer that will give me closure

>>7968007
It sounds like you need to buy some link

>>7968135

Jew detected. He doesnt need degeneracy. He needs purpose, as all men need. So OP. Have kids, go to the gym and get swole, go to the firing range. Get something nice for your gf too, perhaps a ring. Cant afford this shit? Work more.

>>7968510
You wouldnt believe me but im all in LINK actually. Some ICX bags too that are pointless to sell, since i bought them ATH.

>>7968504
>PhD student
subject?

fuck, thanks for making this thread, OP.
I needed to know that I'm not alone in this world. I'm in the same boat as you.

>>7968593
Engineering. Got a few projects with big companies in the same field as part of the phd project and after the last one ended I sort of "broke" and became unable to work. Faggot shit, I know

>>7968634
what companies?
how did you get in this field? your heart/soul probably wants to do something completely different?

>>7968663
I don't want to specify because I'm kind of paranoid, sorry. They are multi-billion $ industries and I pretty much lucked out by being in the right lab at the right time.
But yes, to be honest my soul is not in engineering and I'd like to do something simpler or more straightforward. Hard to do that when my family is kind of rich and judgemental, though

>>7968663
You might be on point about the serotonin problems, BTW
It might explain the case of a lot of us

>>7968007
>How the fuck do you get up in the morning?
kratom and coffee. It's a wonderful combination

>>7968007
browsing biz 24/7 made you a complete retard?

You're a low intelligence spiritual normie.

If you were a high IQ alphamale such as myself you'd never get bored or run out of ambition and drive. I make games, I write music, I lift, I design bycicles, I write shitty apps (my slap trump app has 15k downloads), I paint, I make websites, my latest business will ship its first order in april, I read and research and I invite strangers for dinner once a month (it's a facebook event me and the gf organise in our city. anyone can apply, they bring like 6€ and we cook them and serve beers and drinks and everyone gets to meet and chat with complete randomw strangers from all walks of life. super awesome idea we put together).

tldr: you're a low iq fag and your shitty life is all you deserve.

>>7968007
Learn to paint like bob

>>7968007
Unironically, you should become a teacher in some capacity. You will meet new people, get an excuse to travel and learn all sorts of new skills. If you get to work with kids, you'll be able to uncuck a large portion of them before (((they))) turn their brains into tapioca.

>>7968007
>how the fuck do you get up in the morning?
I use an alarm clock.

>>7968780

>>7968007

honestly just smoke weed and do some drugs/techno raves and you're good

>>7968007
You kind of sound like me 3 months ago.

I started going to the gym. Constant improvement helps. I get up at 4am every morning now excited to start the day.

>>7968800
Thanks. I will take your input into consideration high IQ alphamale.

>>7968800
>invite strangers
>high IQ
pick

>>7968007
Same with me anon, some days I feel really excited to get up and play the piano, or graphic design, other days I just go right back to sleep and have really long dreams which cause me to oversleep and feel like shit thereafter.

I hope this whole thread is a larp and you are all wage cucks like me.
No way you can have such freedom and still be on biz crying about it

>>7968007

same here OP
Ive been freelancing for 6 years now
basically work like an hour a day and clear about 2k a month. can do 5k if I put some effort into it
I lost all motivation because last year I realized how much Im getting screwed by my clients. I made them high six figures to low seven figures in revenue and they wouldnt even pay me a bonus for it. so now Im just coasting and thinking about something better to do with my time.
reality is our society is fucked. back in the day you couldve been a mailman and fed a family on that income. these guys were working outside, doing something meaningful and were back home for lunch time.
now everything is shit and the best we can do is some dumb stuff on the internet. I want to do something real in the real world like become a gardener or learn a trade. but that would mean nI would earn shit money for years and have to start all over again so why even bother.
tl;dr were all fucked and theres nothing really meaningful you can do here on this stupid rock

>>7968007
draw hardcore loli pornography. But get really good at it. I haven't needed to do shit financially in 7 years and have just been drawing lolis this whole time.

>>7969480

that actually sounds fun
how much you clearing per month? and how long to get good enough that people pay you for your drawings?
I cant draw for shit but it sounds like it would be more interesting than my current job

>>7969450
There's plenty of things you CAN do, but you're one of those morons who like to blame others because you're too LAZY; and you're lazy because you don't have that "drive".

If you really, really, want to, then you will. Otherwise, you're just talking shit.

What the fuck you do on biz

>>7969576

>blablabla muh drive muh passion

lol just go fuck yourself dude
I worked my ass off 10-12 hours a day for 1,5 years
Im literally the best in the industry in my country and have the numbers to prove it. but whats the fucking point? Im getting screwed by my clients and then i have to hand over 50% of my income to the state so they can give it to niggers and arabs. there is zero reason for me to put any effort into working for other people.

>>7968007
I had the same exact problem. A steady/pretty high income where I work MAYBE the equivalent. of 3 days a month.

I was able to solve depression/not getting out of bed by figuring out a new challenge/purpose that I could work at and gradually progress at.

What you're describing is literally caused by what >>7968103 is saying.

My advice: Order a print newspaper. You browse /biz/ because it's something to read. Order the WSJ and read it every morning as soon as it arrives while you drink a coffee and eat your breakfast. You'll be out of bed long enough to get your day going.

>>7968535
> have kids
you're telling him to throw away his finances and life energy retard
> go to the gym and get swole
do martial arts so you are fit and can fuck up wannabes who just lift cause they were bad at sports their whole life
> cant afford this shit? Work more
instead of pushing frugality you are pushing for this man to slave away and become overwhelmingly mediocre just like you

your entire life view is shit. I suggest you neck yourself

Consider helping out a poorfag if it makes you feel better. Me and my family just got evicted, it would mean a lot

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Go to a 3rd world country and volunteer... don't tell u have millis. Make secret donations according to needs. Be happy

>>7968007
You're literally complaining about not having to work hard. Are you fucking retarded?

>How the fuck do you get up in the morning?

An alarm across the room so you have to walk over to it to turn it off

>>7968007
Life isn't about you. Think of how you can make the world a better place. Think in terms of solutions and not problems. Freedom comes with responsibility. Take action. Get into a flow where you just do good and you will realize the problems you had don't really exist. Experience is just a side effect of life, it was never the goal.
Gl anon.

>>7969691
Coming from someone who went an extended period of time living easy while not having to work hard, it is a curse that fucks up your brain so hard

Tried vit d op? I used to be lethargic didn't want to get up in the morning always late for work low confidence negative thoughts (not depressed). Low dose 1000ui with breakfast changed all the above in a few days. Feel like chit without it now

>>7969727
>1000iu's

up that dosage boyo. i take 30k IU's a day and have been for a year

>>7969743
Kidneys for sale. One female owner never thrashed always serviced on time

>>7968800
You have Aspergers.
HA HA

>>7969510
idc about the money, I still do art for games when asked to. Pro tip number one: only associate with internet people, and at that the good ones. I'm financially independent beyond a doubt otherwise and probably will never need to work again.

>>7968007
Study

>>7968741
why dont you just give a fuck and do what you want in life?
let me tell you how things like yours usually develop:

>family/parents is what society calls successfull
>they want their spouses to follow them
>anon is not beeing asked what he wants to achieve in life, what his idea of a fulfilled life would be
>anon better get to a good uni, bringing home that phd (bonus for being asian)
>anon is kind of intelligent and does not fail, he succeeded with his degree and is hired by a huge conpany as some kind of specialist
>parents are proud to tell everyone at the countryclub
>anon is getting less and less interested in his job, searches for other things in life
>begins to develop a behavior of self harm
>marries a manipulative and intriguing cunt
>gets into a severe midlife crisis in his mid-30s
>either kills hisself or ruins his life by choice for ever

dont go that way anon.

>>7968800
All bullshit aside. He's right. Only stupid people get bored because they have no other interests.

>>7968819
fuck me that is a beautiful painting

>>7969924

yep. Engineering student here at the

>anon is kind of intelligent and does not fail, he succeeded with his degree and is hired by a huge conpany as some kind of specialist
>parents are proud to tell everyone at the countryclub

stage. Not fulfilling at all, I have an internship lined up but I probably cannot do it as a career long term. my greatest fear is my youth melting away without having accomplished anything special.

My advice would be to take up an instrument or a martial art. Go volunteer somewhere and get out of the house for a bit.

How did you start your freelancing? I’ve been in software dev for years but can never seem to land that first freelance customer.

>>7969619
learn to negotiate moron. if you have a good relationship with your clients they'll be happy to pay you more.

if you're already a good negotiator and they won't pay more it means the field is over-saturated and its time to move on.

nice larp faggot

>>7970061
how did you get into that postition?
whats your way to engineering?
when you decided for that subject, what was your idea of your life 10years later?

idk but whoever woke up 10min ago and started buying btc keep doing that

>>7968007
>Im not depressed

You sleep for twelve hours a day, have no human contact, feel tired all the time, and don't enjoy things you used to like--you're 100% depressed.

Go to therapy, make some friends/acquaintances, or get regular exercise. Hell, do all three.

>>7968007
Hey Anon, you're actually me.

It is depression. It will continue to get worse if you don't do anything about it.
What has helped me is setting a schedule and including going outside(even just for a drive), starting a new hobby( bought a project car with all this new disposable income) and sticking to a workout schedule. Once you stick to the schedule for a bit everything gets easier and youll feel brighter.

Or kys, doesn't matter to me.

>>7970186
Dude come on don't help someone out and then tell them to kts
>be good
>be rude
pick one

>>7968384
Nope, home set up doesn't make it anon, you need human interactions, see faces. You need to know you're not alone

>>7968175
5x is a lot, your body needs to rest. 2-3 days per week is good for most people.
t. /fit/

>>7968007
>I wake up and force myself to sleep more and more because in my dreams i feel more than being awake, til im feeling completely shit from oversleeping

god damn. I thought I was the only one.

>>7970128

I picked a major with good job prospects, just applied to internships, since I go to a good school I got hired, the money is good but idk if 9 to 5 is for me.

when i decided it i was a dumb 18 yr old kid who didn't know what he wanted, and since engineering is a safe choice with good pay and i was smart i went into it. I don't regret my choice but I see now that it ain't how ya think it be

>>7968007
Psychiatrist.

>>7968007

I’m 29 living off passive income, same boat op.

>>7968007
Where did you learn web coding and more importantly how did you find freelance work?

>>7970096

look dude
you have no clue about my situatin so why dont you stfu instead of giving this generic ass advice
I did study negotation and I doubled my salary.. so what? Im still getting screwed and Im seriously starting to hate my job.

What I really want to do is become a gardener. you know what these guys earn in training? 400 euros a month. an apartment here is 700 euros. Im in my 30s and cant just throw away everything to spend years working for shitpay to learn a trade. Im stuck in this shit and dont see a way out. if you tell me how I can work in agriculture without taking a 95% paycut then Im interested. if not, then please just keep your well-meaned but useless advice to yourself. its patronizing and not helpful at all.

>>7968504
Hi,
May I get some of those for my depression. Just small dose to make that life changing difference in the brain.
chiphomete AT hvzoi.com

>>7969440
I'm a wagecuck, you arent alone by any means, this website is the number one larpshit on the internet.

>>7970549
>95% paycut
>"im getting screwed"
what, you're making $110k and talking about getting screwed?
you make 8000 euros a month and can't save anything after paying 700 eu apartment?

>>7970069
First one is the hardest, you just have to push hard and think that you have nothing to lose. After the first one it just gets easier and easier. I did my first ones basically for free to get something in the portfolio. Good luck.

>>7968007
Meaning comes from the adoption of responsibility. You don't necessarily need a 9 to 5 but you do need to strive more. Try to increase your passive income threefold and see where the work towards that goal takes you.

>>7968007
How much do you charge your customers?

Hey OP,
I'm developing a website, well at least trying to. Maybe you could help me with it? :)

>>7970682
Why not :) post your e-mail? / Skype

>>7970693

>Different ID than OP

Hmm....
Most certainly not a bait

>>7970772
Changed from laptop to mobile.

>>7970831
Alright, I'll trust you. What's your contact information?

>>7968007
sounds nice OP, enjoy it

>>7968007
>How the fuck do you get up in the morning?
My girlfriend makes me coffee. I didn't read the rest of your post because the coffee's so good :^)

>>7968007
how do you initially find clients. I hate approaching people in a cold call kind of way. If the success rate is 3 clients every 100 then with my luck I will be rejected 97 times in a row first.

>>7971263
First project could be a page for your friend, relative etc. Just let people know, facebook, forums etc. There are so many options. And ofcourse start with your own page, make it perfect. If there are not yet any works completed, list your skills, write about how passionate you are etc. You can make couple of sample projects, car wash, dentist and so on, with sample info.

>>7969440
>webdev has 2k salary before taxes
>must be larp

Oh /biz/ u never change

>>7968007
Become more invested in your relationship with gf?

>>7968800
nice larp fag

>>7971943
If it was that easy, we would all do it