/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7872902

I swear LINK makes me want to leave /biz/, this is a scam dude holy shit how naive are you? Biz didn’t even exist two years ago how could they have shilled ETH @ 10 usd? Use your brain

>>7872953
let him waste his money. he has to learn the hard way

>>7872953
This
Don’t actually buy, it’s just an elaborate joke. No one actually owns LINK on biz

>>7872953
Can you explain why it is a scam? Why should I believe you over Link shills?

>>7872953
>it's a scam that has a working product
Nice try JUSTin Sun. No one believes you anymore after Tron.

I get payed to shill LINK, AMA

>>7873008
It's not. Those are stinky linkies who want to accumulate cheap LINK.

>>7872953
Biz was around two years ago... I was scamming retards on here in 2013...

I've been here since the very beginning.

People were talking about ETH when it was around $7, but not before.

It's a fucking erc20 token lol. It's worthless, OP.

>>7872902
alpha mainnet is out so i dont think its a scam
but the lack of interest from anywhere despite /biz/ is really off putting
of course they try to reason it by beeing some kind of conspiracy
also every criticism gets instantly turned into a pasta and then into a meme instead of debunked
but i think it makes people here feel kinda special

>>7873008

The Stinky Linkts falsely and erroneously claim that /biz/ also shilled Ethereum as pathetically as they are shilling LINK. Sadly, this ain't true. No evidence.

No buy. Link is a scam.

RIP LINK!

>>7872902
/biz/ told me to buy eth at 10. I listened and now I'm a stinky linky.

>>7872902
> I want to believe LINK can hit $1,000 EOY
I want to bet against this, tell me how we can set it up.

>>7873148
If only we had a solution to the oracle problem
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>7873148
sir i have a big recommendation for you sirs

>>7873148
>>7873173
ethorse is a shitcoin i traded to get a bunch more link. but its most likely a scam

>>7872902
Nobody cares if you buy. Go read the whitepaper yourself, we don't have to spoonfeed you.

>>7873056
>but the lack of interest from anywhere despite /biz/ is really off putting
Where exactly Link should be getting attention? Can you point a altcoin which is getting attention outside /biz/ and reddit?

>>7872902
Let me respond you as an programmer. I have read the whitepaper and watched the conferences, so here is my take:
> naming such as: oracles, sources, ...
reinvented the wheel, just pure marketing
> SGX (Intel Software Guard eXtensions)
1. only available to the newest CPUs
2. there are big security flaws currently in the SGX enclave that needs to be fixed by Intel, not reliable at the moment
> copy/paste + refactor academic whitepapers to suit the smart contract mdidleware
in the three days searching certain paragraphs in this 'whitepaper' I have found out huge resemblances with existing ones from the research domain of universities

As our fellow friend, Vitalik Buterin said, this is purely manipulation by the masses that accumulated the tokens related to this charade and abuse of social media in order to convince other people into this scheme unaware of the consequences.

Either if you think that this is a meme or not, be aware of the consequences when everything falls apart this year and do some extended research into the whitepaper and you will be surprised of what you will find.

>>7873053
holy shit lol

link is doomed, that's all the fud I need right there in 5 words

>>7872902
You are literally retarded if you Think LINK can hit $1000.
Link will maybe hit $10

>>7872953
Leave now and kys, faggot.

>>7872902
All you have to do is join the slack and it'll confirm that this isn't come fake pump and dump.

>>7873046
Biz didn't exist in 2013 either retard

>>7873234
Here's one that finished its ICO last month and got written about in the Wall Street Journal.

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2018/02/20/cryptocurrency-investors-wade-into-dark-pools/

Dont forget that theres simply no way LINK ever goes over 1$ per token. It defeats the whole purpose of the network, as stated in the original whitepaper.

I was here before everybody and I have seen it all. Mt. Gox, DNM, creation of #neo and #ethereum.

Only 2 coins were shilled as much as Link. They are ethereum and neo. neo was ant back then.

many people opn biz made it then and only few of them are still here.

so, most probably yes, Link will be huge as long as Sergey is alive.

>>7873053
Explain why that matters. Before you do, realize that LINK token is used for just one thing. To pay nodes. The ChainLink network does not rely on ETH at all except for payments via LINK.

>>7873318
>It defeats the whole purpose of the network, as stated in the original whitepaper.
citation needed

>>7873325
what's your personal prediction on EOY price?

>Just trying to decide if it's worth it to buy 10k LINK rn
Fuck off mate

>>7872902
/biz/ is a cruel place. If you are a newfag, shouldn't you wonder why no other community or forum ever talks about chainlink?
If it would really be so revolutionary, wouldn't you at least expect some hype, some youtube videos and some reddit threads about it?
How comes, you don't see any of it? Really should make you think. Maybe, just maybe, /biz/ is trying to troll you into buying an abandonned project.

>>7872902
there is no evidence, chainlink is scam! don't buy.

>>7873286
>in 5 words

u are rarted

>>7873334
its a meme newfriend

Anyone else notice how it used to be upfiring, DBC, Lamden that was shrilled on here? all went to shit.

only chainlink surrvied the shrill, but the posts have increased like 10 fold? also the use of copypastas remained the same? pretty sure chainlink is just some shrill group. No major companies will touch it with a stick, they will just build their own oracles for there purposes, if they even adopt anything crypto related that is. not plant it on top of a poorly coded chainlink code.

Man once you realize that like 90% of FUDers on /biz/ hold LINK and that the other 20% were fooled by the FUDers this shit is hilarious.

>>7872902
Pls buy my bags

>>7873334
Original WP:

> 'For the network to be viable, the token price has to be stable and low, preferably under a dollar, to avoid any unnecessary volatility that would put off institutional users.'

>>7873395
Good, who cares to buy coffee with crypto, anyway?

>>7872953
I remember the shilling. Bought ETH at 4$, sold at 10$, exited crypto for 2 years, deep regrets. I've learnt from my mistakes though, holding Link for att least 2 years.

>>7873416
lol 90 and 20%

>>7873405
>spend money developing their own oracles instead of just getting a decentralized token to do the job for them
ya ok

>>7873405
>pretty sure chainlink is just some shrill group.
>muh everythang is a conspiracy
Many things just develop organically without shady controlling forces behind them.

>>7873405
>No major companies will touch it with a stick, they will just build their own oracles for there purposes
>No major companies will touch the internet with a stick, they will just build their own intranet
>>7872902
See pic related and check this thread

>>7872902
I was actually shilled ETH in /g/ more than 2 years ago, but i was a pussy to use my new Fury for mining, and by then it all looked very dodgy. I remember reading a little of /biz/, a weird territory to me, thinking you were all a bunch of liars and gamblers. I was right.

>>7873416
wew lad

>>7873425
I guess everyone here can remember what Vitalik considered to be the ideal price for Ethereum.

>>7873434
Damn, would have kys'd myself

>>7872902
Bro, have you not witnessed the digits? What more proof could you possibly need?

>>7873416
this
I started FUDding JNT once I bought some, then I realized the linkies are the same.
so I bought some LINK too
feels comfy

>>7873506
sauce:
>>/biz/thread/S1554039#p1554445
>October 2016
>Will we ever have $100 ethereum?
>Do you think ethereum can ever hit $1000?

>There's no demand for ETH because it's a meme. BTC is the real thing, and the rest will run under sidechains.

>Vitalik warned everybody repeatedly not to invest in it due to the high inflation and the fact that because it's a fuel, the people who actually use it won't need to hold on to it. So it's basically shit for a buy and hold.

>It's just a permanently deflating bubble from here on in.

Moral of the story is, history repeats itself in funny ways. It's not that LINK will follow the exact pattern. But here's the thing, LINK could actually surpass BTC/ETH gains for all we know. We honestly don't know until it happens.

But look at that dude >>7873506 he thought he had to wait 4 fucking years lol, and he basically made it if he held half his stack after selling at $200.
Sky is the limit, bros. That is all

>>7873273
someone unfud me please
reee

can someone shop some linkies into the text and logo. ty.

>>7873449

all they have to do is divert one or two people of their programming team for 1 week, if even. It is not like they are programming some next generation game, or devloping novel algorithems. It is litterally just code snippets feeding api feeds until conditions are met then x. and they won't have to rely on an external backend, which is the big thing. Maybe some mid-tier companies will use it. The whole github of chainlink litterally only has 13k lines of code. People investing this much into 13k lines of code without even any patent are delusional...

>>7873585
As long as you invest as much as you can afford to lose, you'll be fine and shouldn't be bothered much with cynical experts.

The main difference between ChainLink and Ethereum is that Ethereum is led by a tech geek with a deep interest in the blockchain tech, ChainLink is led by a Russian PR manager. Those are very different things when you think about it.

OP here. Not a single oldfag can provide evidence. Not a single newfag admits to buying LINK because they recognize its scam potential.

I've concluded that ChainLINK is NOT a buy. I will be purchasing VEN instead. Thank you very much. You can stop posting here now.

>>7873644
>dividing their workforce to develop an oracle instead of getting a decentralized token to do the job for them
mhmm yes indeed

>>7873722
Forgot pic

>>7873647
>>7873585
>>7873273
>you'll be fine and shouldn't be bothered much with cynical experts.
Regarding experts:
see pic related
>>7873708
See
>>7873506
>>7873583
Literally search ethereum in warosu around that time. I clearly remember people FUDing it saying it was going back to >$1 when it fell below $10.
I didn't buy in at the time, because I was a brainlet, but don't be fooled. Literally the same pattern is forming again.

That being said, it's always good to debate the weaknesses of LINK. After mainnet launch, it will be driven by the community and node-operators, so the more awareness of the weaknesses, the better.

>>7873644
Can't wait for nolinker suicidewatch threads.

>>7873722

for a few days, in order to have full control. Have you ever had any contact with any company? they do not like to give away control, unless they have to due to lack of know-how. But getting an oracle going would not be a hard job for the big firms who have a tech team.

>>7873764
> nice hindsight bro, too bad its a piece of shit, anyone can say anything of a previous event

>>7873583
Wait hold up though, ChainLink is as of right now partnered with swift, and swift system is used by the banks. Isn't the whole point of crypto to get rid of banks?...

>>7873583
> he thought he had to wait 4 fucking years lol
Someone told me that everything in crypto takes half the time you think it needs and it's been about right, the thing is that dude had the right mentality. ETH was at around $1 for like 6 months, then spent around a year hanging around $10. Those that believe this is the next ETH need to be ready for this kind of holding and accept that some of those who aren't that optimistic about its EOY price may not be complete retards.

>>7873202
This looks fun as fuck, is the mainnet ready? I wouldn't mind dropping some ETH to play with it.

>>7873836
Crypto provides an alternative to banks. It doesn't necessarily seek to replace them.

>>7872092

Franky, I'm getting tired of hearing shit like this. I'm one of the biggest LINK posters and at this point I'm about to just start FUDDing to keep you people poor.

Still I'll offer this last bastion of information.

Investing ETH was much more risky than LINK. Yes, people on /biz/ saw the huge potential in smartcontracts, but no one knew if the concept would catch on. (They obviously did).

Now that companies and people want to use smartcontracts, there's a massive glaring problem. The contracts needs access to decentralized 3rd data. If smart-contracts are going to be the future, this is something that needs to be fixed. There's is no way any around this.

LINK is the only project working on this exact issue, and they've been working on the project for years.

>>7872902
Yes Ethereum was shilled LONG before it was popular him.

But be realistic, ETH JUST HIT $1000 THIS LAST FEW MONTHS.

I've got a lot of ETH and I'd say $30-ish?? would be the equivalent of ETH hitting $1000. Keep in mind time frames as well and also how fast crypto is evolving.

Just my 2cents

Can you explain to me what even this coin is? I read that it is supposed to connect existing businesses to the crypto market but that is stupid, any business can just get a wallet and trade any coins they want already. They don't need any shitcoin to do that.

So why would anyone want to invest in this?

>>7873927

Should direct to

>>7872902

>>7873836
>>7873923
Pretty sure crypto is gonna end up HELPING banks... you know seemless, instant, feeless transfers of large sums of value across borders? Banks would fucking love that shit.
If you're stupid enough to think that banks are going to become obsolete and there's going to be this financial system with no recourse if you send CC to a wrong wallet address or you lose your private keys, then you're mental. What normie wants that? They'd rather keep the banks

>>7873923
hmmmm truueeee thanks for explanation, it'll probably take decades to really get rid of them if it ever does anways

>>7873048
Bullshit.

People were talking about ETH back when it was $1

>>7873946

You're so out of the loop. I don't even know where to begin.

Just go read the white paper

1 billion supply = $1000 EOY? You will be lucky if it even reaches $1 EOY

>>7873913
>Those that believe this is the next ETH need to be ready for this kind of holding and accept that some of those who aren't that optimistic about its EOY price may not be complete retards.
This. By the end of the year a lot of weak hands are going to be shaked off.

>>7873385
this pasta needs updating. alpha release is out. sergey just presented and is presenting again in a few weeks at sxsw. get rid of abandoned maybe change it to /biz/ is trying to troll you into buying a meme that will never be used in real life or something like that.

>>7873952
You're a ripple fag, aren't you?

>>7873913
idk it was supposed to be released sometime soon but it missed the initial date and the team is anonymous so i got out with profit just in case. it will do well if you get in now and the mainnet does actually come out

>>7873405
>No major companies will touch it with a stick, they will just build their own oracles for there purposes
>from SmartContract.com: "We're proud to be working with SWIFT on their own SWIFT Smart Oracle. Allowing smart contracts on various networks to make payments, send governance instructions, and release collateral with over 11,000 banks."

When I look at threads like this, Im wondering if like the majority of people in the past are lurking on other forums than 4chan.

ETH was shilled hard when it was cheap. I remember when it was 1,62 and the daily countless threads about Vitalik and that it would never go over 20$ and its a pipedream with similar calculations done like in some other shitcoin threads. Titles were like >there are people who trust this man(Vitalik) with their life savings.

Its was a memefest like now with chainlink and before you put words in my mouth.. Im not saying its the same thing, but you need to be a retard to not see the value in ChainLink. Its a good idea and tries to deliver something unique and not just be a coin with a doge on it.

Who knows maybe it will give some good gains or not, but LINK hater are often as cringy as the brainless shills.

>>7873325
Have you made it?

>>7873977
YOu don't get it do you?
I am decent with computers and cryptos are beyond me. 99.9% of all people will find cryptos so confusing and hard that they will lose any interest instantly.
The fact that cryptos are so complicated will prevent them from even being mass adopted in public. There is a reason why 99% of bitcoin people only get into bitcoins with hopes of eventually selling them and making lots of fiat. Same with all alt coins. Not a single cropto holding person bar a very small group, is holding them to use them to buy shit in stores. Everyone just wants them to go up so they can sell them for fiat and get out.

I forgot to mention another important topic. Do not let yourself influenced by what other people comment, post or distribute.

They are all acting in either their best interest of just want to troll you, in any case a negative consequence for you.

Whether they are paid by others to influence the opinion or do it for their own pleasure, always remember:
> Do not trust others by default, inform yourself
> Search multiple sources and you will connect the dots eventually
And most importantly
> Do your own research, do not expect others to do it for you
That is how you learn the truth.

>>/biz/thread/1948248
MiloCoin has weathered the cryptocalypse better than your shit tokens. Why did you ever doubt /biz/?

>>7873644
I can tell you have never coded a thing in your life beyond a 5th grade comprehension

>>7874011
I'm actually not. I'm not really that interested in the cryptocurrency part of blockchain and I don't hold any coins that aim to be used as currencies for the reasons in that post. Sure btc is going to be used as a store of value but it's not ever going to be a widely adopted currency that you can pay for your groceries with.

I'm more interested in blockchain solutions for industry, which is why I hold VEN and LINK. Smart contracts, Dapps and all the good stuff is the real use case of blockchain, not decentralised currencies IMO.

>>7872902
comparing link to eth is as delusional as it gets

eth was so obvious rocket even at 5$

>>7873828
I agree, but that's what OP asked for.

With regards to your points:
SGX
https://medium.com/@cl_thodges/chainlink-white-paper-section-6-long-term-technical-strategy-b5c5e199ddfa

Trusted hardware is a critical piece of the ChainLink network, but not all nodes have to run on it. In fact, Sergey has mentioned that for smaller contract sizes, they might not want to or need to utilize such nodes, as they could be more expensive. That being said, the issues of trusted hardware must be examined, but Sergey believes that it shouldn't be the reason to hold up the adoption of smart-contracts by legacy systems, decentralized oracle networks. It's just a question of what solutions and implementations arise in time, but that isn't a critical vulnerability in ChainLink's thesis, in and of itself. Or correct me if I'm horribly wrong
Sergey alluded to these points, here, if I recall. Can't recall the timestamp though, sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfH1B85YyFU

>copy/paste + refactor academic whitepapers to suit the smart contract mdidleware
What is this supposed to imply? Satoshi referenced Adam Back and the work of hashcash, back in the original BTC whitepaper.
I mean, I'm not saying they didn't plagiarize or try to hype themselves up by taking from other academic work. But in any case, are any of those academics anywhere closer to a decentralized oracle network?
>>7874042
Also, I'm not trying to be an argumentative dick, you probably are the smartest person in this thread, and we need more debates like this. I'm just trying to learn.

The harsh truth is that brainlets got rich off ETH, and brainlets like me could get rich off LINK if it works out, but I want to learn as much as possible regardless.

By the way, if you do care about the project's success, if only because you think it's a cool idea, consider joining the slack and the gitter, and lighting a fire under their asses, if you see any glaring issues. Maybe you don't give a shit, but it's worth a shot

>>7874079
If it was so obvious why are you still here then?

>>7874015
I'm not that interested into buying ethhorse for gains, but to play with it, I'll look into it later, thanks.

>>7874079
he's shilling trtl

>>7874103
It's probably not even worth a Sat.

>>7874079
>link isnt the same dumbasses, eth was obvious, just look at how I took advantage and left this board once i made i-

>>7873273
Sick FUD, you must have a lot of LINK.

>>7874038

Barring a very small group, people don't hold stocks to actually own and influence the company they hold stock in, they buy them so they can go up and they can sell them for fiat and get out.

>>7874129
lmao Gotem.

>>7874088
You know whats important than 20 Lambos in my garage?

>Knowledge.

>>7874038
they really aren't that complicated. I think you are incorrectly assuming you are intelligent but you are actually a brainlet. also, you are referring to crypto "currencies" like bitcoin as if they are the same thing as smart contract platforms and dapps, which they are not. chainlink is protocol, not a currency. they are not even close to the same thing. you are in way over your head. just close your computer and get back to your job at the register of 711.

>>7874075
bingo. this guy gets it.

>>7874079
well I don't work anymore, I have to do something lol

>>7874214
topkek, his youtube memes must have seeped into my subconscious. Full disclosure, LINK is my emotionally-attached investment. I've got a couple of others in my portfolio that are my "safe" gainers, and I'm not all in on crypto. But it's just my faggy sentiment; I like investing in and researching ambitious mission-oriented shit that could change the world. So it's my guilty pleasure I suppose

>>7873273
SGX only available on the newest CPUs is a bit of a stretch. It's available on pretty much anything Skylake and newer which was ~2015.

The only plausible attack on a SGX enclave is if it is purposely created in an unsafe manner, allowing an attacker to run `clflush`. See here:
>https://github.com/lsds/spectre-attack-sgx

>>7873946
kek
chainlink isn't a "currency"

>>7872953
>Biz didn’t even exist two years ago

Are you fucking retarded? /biz/ was created in the beginning of 2014 you stupid faggot
See:
https://imgur.com/IEuPe5e

>>/biz/thread/S1187485
Here's a good thread full of Eth FUD, funny to think some of those anons must be loaded now.

>>7874266
the heartbleed/spectre attacks allow people to get data inside the enclaves unencrypted. Its broken.

https://github.com/lsds/spectre-attack-sgx

>>7874300
thats exciting

>>7873946
You are a degenerate and a lazy fucking retard, thats not what link does you fucktard!

>>7874088
It's also important to note that we'll be able to see the development of the trusted hardware node (SGX) as it happens. That means we'll be able to test Spectre attacks before anyone actually needs to rely on it for data retrieval.

I'm not worried, honestly. If there's a critical vulnerability identified in the software, they're obviously not going to bring it to main net.

>>7874349
You're showing your ignorance. Heartbleed was a totally different type of attack on SSL years before Spectre.

I have 30,000 link

$13 eoy

We are the link marines.

>>7873273
>>7874042
>Thinly veiled FUD with no sources on the plagiarism
>>7874088
>>7874266
>>7874377
>>7874409
>sparks an actual technical discussion, net effect shilling more people on LINK
4D chess, marine
also, checked:
>>7874266
>>7874377

>>/biz/thread/S971481#p971484

Behold, /biz/'s smartest poster.

>>7873988
You got it chief

>>7874632
lol'd

Let me tell you newfags what biz was like from the beginning.
I was literally here the first day it was created. THE FIRST DAY.

What link is like now, Doge was back then.
Constant. Fucking. Doge. Memes.

We even memed each other into thinking that it would moon to andromeda and beyond.

It's eerily similar to Link.

>>7874674
>ground breaking technology compared to a known joke

when and how did you make it in this game?

>>971484
Post on 24 Nov 2015:
>[referencing ethereum] i'm gonna pump a couple of grand into this shit and become a millionaire just by sitting on my ass!
this nigga is in lamboland atm

>>7874674

>m-m-muh oldfag

>>7874700
>ground breaking technology != JSON Parser
Before you do, that's for sure.

>>7874724
mommy hes being mean. hunny crypto isnt how i made it. this shits just fun

>>7873416
Explain the 110% now!

I'm not sure if he was ironic or not, but the replies weren't:
>No one spends $100+ on some random imaginary coin just because some guy makes a thread saying "This is going to be the future of money, buy it now"

Also, fuark:
>I spent $6000 on bitcoin when it was ~$30. Still have 80% of them.

Besides the gains, my biggest regret is not being around for the good times on /biz/. What a fucking kek that that guy posted a smug Trump face in 2015, too. Eery memetics.

>>7874791
meant for:
>>7874709
>>7874632

>>7872902
What do you actually want? If it doesn't feel like a good investment to you don't do it. If you don't understand the tech don't invest.

>>7874724
Do you understand what back end APIs are? They're all JSON parsers. Everything you use parses JSON. The whole LINK is just a JSON parser thing is so retarded. Parsing JSON just means taking in data and interpreting or serializing it you absolute brainlet.

If you think this is all LINK does then there is no hope for you. I'm done defending this to morons. I have the % of my portfolio I set out to establish in LINK. FUD it, buy it, sell it, do whatever. When they lift the NDA and announce their partnerships I want you to really bask in the moment where you realize what a moron you are.

>>7872953
>>7872902
True, nobody actually buys LINK. That's just a meme we shill to newfags like you. Mobius is the real deal, but you didn't hear it from me.

>>7872902
dyor faggot

>>7873148
We can set a betting smart contract and then have some oracle check the price. Anyone has suggestions for a good oracle provider, preferably decentralized?

>>7874632
fucking hell

>>7874820
dude, be grateful you have enough of an understanding to see through the shitposting. Us poor brainlets had to do triple the effort to see through the FUD. But that's how we earned our future gains. No one gets to become a LINK marine without blood, sweat and tears

>>7874820
>Everything you use parses JSON.
No.
>When they lift the NDA and announce their partnerships I want you to really bask in the moment where you realize what a moron you are.
You've memed yourself into delusion and retardation, friend.

What LINK really is, is the perfect storm of pre-ICO groups buying in on a ridiculous low price forming an autistic army of ICO-flippers just waiting to drop this garbage on retards once the demand can sustain it.

Have fun pumping that.

>>7874828
Just bought another 1k. Fight me irl.

I have been browsing the archives for an ungodly amount of time tonight. Made me realise that /biz/ was created during the mt gox.crash to get the spam off /g/

>>/biz/thread/S71#p6925
Crazy that some /biz/tards were still buying on gox despite btc withdrawals being suspended.

>>7874957
>Everything you use parses JSON.
>No.
Pick your favorite exchange and do a data retrieval right now

>>7875034
>implying theres nothing outside of a crypto exchange

He said everything.

>what is XML
>what is YAML
>what is custom binary
>what is Protobuf

>>7875005
how long do threads last on warosu and archived.moe? Can they be deleted from there? When I make it, one of my past times will be to go through the old archives.
It will be like a nostalgia library.
I so fucking regret taking a break from /b/ and 4chan from 2007-16. I so would have migrated to other boards and eventually /g/
Hopefully I can make up for lost keks in the future

>>7873318

it hit $1.20 in december

i cannot link you images, but i was shilled eth at 9$ on this board many many moons ago... i wish i was more willing to listen to you guys but you are so often wrong i let it pass right by.

>>7875090
Everything that needs to interact with the public uses JSON. And a lot of things that aren't exactly public still use JSON.

>>7874632
Shit like this makes me wish i was on /biz/ instead of /pol/ back from 2015/16 lmao

buying this in bulk while it's still cheap... only way to make big money is to acquire these low cost coins before they pump. get in or be forever broke.

Can a non-brainlet please unshill on link?

>>7875151
The fuck are you talking about? It's just one way of serializing/deserializing data, and a slow one at that.
The only reason that JSON is popular is because it's easily readable by humans, but in many cases it is suboptimal in terms of information transfer compared to other solutions. Unnecessary overhead, slow serialization/deserialization times, etc.

You're fucking retarded and out of your element.

>>7875216
you want someone to fud you link? youre into some kinky shit

>>7874857
Second person that brings it and I get it's half meme, but a middleman for a bet is fine.

>>7875101
warosu currently holds a complete archive of /biz/ though some post numbers have no posts.
Here is the first thread I think. With a feel guy linking my linky stays super stinky.
>>/biz/thread/S3#p3931

>>7875288
checked

>>7873946
Lmao look at this stupid retard! LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH!

What the fuck are you even doing on this board you braindamaged fetal alcohol syndrome turd that should have been aborted?
How did you even manage to learn how to type ffs?

>yfw retards this dumb enter crypto
Lmao holy shit

>>7875233
there's nothing slow about JSON either. you make claims that are simply untrue.

>>7872902
Don't buy yet anon, I'm still accumulating

>>7875288
>>>/biz/thread/S3#p3931
checked, and surreal
How could they know what path would lie before them. Did they have a feeling of how far things would go? We'll similarly look back on this day and ask the same things:
>>8888888
>>9999999
>>11111111
After the singularity:
>>999999999

>>7875306
Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
Pic related is S/DS times.

Not to fucking mention the Trip Data size in which case JSON is fucking worthless compared to other solutions.

Nobody, and I mean nobody uses JSON when time or size is of importance.

>>7875417
yeah size can make a difference.
size won't be an issue with smart contracts anon.

>>7875288
checkin those digits through space and time

>>7874828
>mobius
lmao

>>7875233
You clearly don't understand the scope of this project. It's not about the speed of JSON, who cares about that? The only factor concerning JSON is about coming to consensus on a single answer, which is why the node needs to support retrieving values from JSON data.

Right now, there's no other project that can effectively come to consensus on outside data and provide it to a blockchain. This is why those that "know" don't need further convincing about the project. If ChainLink can implement a safe way to retrieve off-chain data, come to consensus on an answer, and provide that result to smart contracts, it will be huge and everyone will NEED it.

>>7873946
fuuuuuck and I though reddit was retarded, read the white paper you lazy fat cunt. and a lil hint for you the company is called smartcontracts.com

Every single shit coin is shilled on /biz/ so naturally ETH was one of them.
I'ts important to remember that /biz/ has been right 1 out of 1500 times though.

>>7872902
>$1000
you are a brainlet

>>7874300
>put his lifesavings
>his lifesavings
That lad had fucked up right there.

>>7875562
whats with neo?

if chainlink works I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be at least $10

Don't be this guy. Don't buy shit link, spread you assets all over.

>>7875502
>coming to consensus on a single answer
No shit. But the approach is fucking retarded.

In crypto size and time is everything, and JSON is laughable. This shit will buck under the tiniest amount of load and any respectable developer with even the tiniest amount of programming knowledge would rather make out with Vitalik than think of the idea of using JSON given the specifications were after.

It's fine for when kids want to ping a REST API, or parse data when time or conservation of processor power doesnt matter all that much, but here it does. IT'S AT THE FUCKING CORE OF IT WORKING AT ALL.

No sensible corporation would touch this shit with ten feet pole.

>>7875724
>don't buy link
Or you just invest as much as you can afford to lose, you dumb faggot. Get your testosterone levels checked, you might have to get off the soy.

>>7875818
okay go sell then, thanks for your advice i am selling too, thank you sir, what a kind gesture from a random stranger to outline the disadvantages of a token, i am sure trusting him guys and you should too

>>7875818
>This shit will buck under the tiniest amount of load
Explain how? Surely by now you've gone through the code. We already know custom computations, which as you already noted would require extra processing power, can be done in an external adapter instead of within the node itself. So how can the process of retrieving a value from JSON cripple a node?

>>7875818
weak fud is weak

>>7874256
Same my LINK comrade, lets all make it! See you in 2020!

>>7875562
Give milkies

>>7875562
Doze are sum bigass tiddies

>>7872902
>ITT more fud so we can accumulate

>>7874632
oh. oh fuck....

>>7875954
Because if you rely on sending strings in packets compressed into a binary format you're looking at disaster.

Imagine me wanting to change 3 values with just binary: 1100011 1100011 1100011

And then with JSON (the LINK way of doing it): 01111011 0001010 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100010 01100111 01101100 01101111 01110011 01110011 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100010 00111010 00100000 01111011 0001010 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100010 01110100 01101001 01110100 01101100 01100101 00100010 00111010 00100000 00100010 01100101 01111000 01100001 01101101 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01100111 01101100 01101111 01110011 01110011 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100010 00101100 0001010 0001001 0001001 00100010 01000111 01101100 01101111 01110011 01110011 01000100 01101001 01110110 00100010 00111010 00100000 01111011 0001010 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100010 01110100 01101001 01110100 01101100 01100101 00100010 00111010 00100000 00100010 01010011 00100010 00101100 0001010 0001001 0001001 0001001 00100010 01000111 01101100 01101111 01110011 01110011 01001100 01101001 01110011 01110100 00100010 00111010 00100000 01111011 0001010 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100010 01000111 01101100 01101111 01110011 01110011 01000101 01101110 01110100 01110010 01111001 00100010 00111010 00100000 01111011 0001010 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100010 01001001 01000100 And on it goes...

Even to you the issues should be obvious.

>>7873000
i own 450 link lol

>>7872953
ETH was under 10 dollars last year

>>7875818
Not a coderfag so I have very little idea of what this means.

But, I don't believe you.

If it were really such a poorly made thing, and this JSON stuff truly is not fit for purpose... Well, then they would have made it in a different way. I'm sure they're making ChainLink in the best way possible. People smarter than you or me are working on it. Simply based on this, I think what you are saying cannot be true.
>any respectable developer with even the tiniest amount of programming knowledge would rather make out with Vitalik than think of the idea of using JSON given the specifications were after.
I'm pretty sure the ChainLink team are respectable developers, so they're probably doing the best thing possible.

>>7875154
for me it was /a/ desu

>>7872902
>he fell for the /biz/ shilled ethereum before it was big meme

>>7875818
JSON is quicker to parse

>>7876332
he's an idiot, json is very widely spread and used by everyone and programmers love it

>>7876450
this.

it's trivial to add other notations later on, but for getting adoption right, JSON is the best choice

>>7876415
Then what exactly? You're talking out of your ass.
Read >>7875417

>>7876180
I'm really having a hard time grasping how this is such a disastrous problem as you make it out to be. If JSON was such a CPU, and even network-inefficient hog, no one would use it. Yet JSON adoption still grows - most data sources provide their data in a JSON format.

Obviously, no one will be able to change how every data source provides their data. Plus, that would be counteractive to what Chainlink proposes by using your existing API to feed data to the blockchain. So even if data were not received via JSON, the node would still need some method to extract the data.

Keeping with a minimal, modular approach, how would you suggest this be done?

>>7876450
JSON is for internal uses only when SPEED of s/ds and SIZE isn't an issue. Even for local data-fetching JSON is considered shit.

You guys are fucking deluded.

I'm done.

>>7872902
dude holy shit you fell for the meme srsly?

>>7876549
Hi done, I'm dad.

>>7873291
The most conservative estimate and I 20x my money. Ok that's fine with me

>>7873053
omg THIS it isnt even a crypto! a fucking token! it cant even be mined. how woud you expect ot to moon? with wishes?

jason parser from swift said it was just a token to help them with the testing

people really need to learn how to search archives

>>7876684
Always keen to learn more, what are your secrets anon. Warosu and moe seem pretty straightforward?

>>7876490
think in terms of trade offs you absolute pleb-tier dev

I wasen't here for the ETH shilling but I was a [biz] newfag when the whole antshares thing was going on
It did ressemble the LINK shilling, I didn't got into it because of that ugly logo and because I was a newfag that couldn't see past the FUD

I traded it a bit when NEO was out but I still made more gains elsewhere... If only I had bought ANS

>>7876780
That's pretty much what I was trying to lead him to understand. There will ALWAYS be a better way of doing something. But of course, there will also be trade-offs associated with that decision. Going with JSON makes it easy for almost any company in the world to sell their data on the blockchain. The trade-off for that is some speed. So what? Computers are faster now, the internet passes JSON data around all the time anyway. A more senior engineer would understand that these are the trade-offs being made, but getting data to smart contracts is simply more important.

>>7872953
These faggots on here just like Link because of that shitty vidya game on the Nintendo.

Just had a look at who has starred the github repo. These are the most interesing

https://github.com/ahmadDjango
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmadtabbakha/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Technologies
>It is the largest software company in the United States that is solely based on providing integrated software and technology services to the public sector — cities, counties, states and school districts. Tyler Technologies has offices in 17 states and one in Toronto, Canada
>Forbes ranked Tyler Technologies as number 22 in 2017, 24 in 2016, 27 in 2014, and 25 in 2013 on its Most Innovative Growth Companies List. The company was also ranked number 49 on Forbes' America's Best Small Companies in 2014.

https://github.com/ridhoq
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ridwanhoq/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenahealth
>athenahealth is a leading provider of network-enabled services and mobile applications for medical groups and health systems
>Revenue US$100.8 million (2007), Increase 1.08 billion (December, 2016)
>athenahealth, Inc. is a publicly traded American company that provides network-enabled services for healthcare and point-of-care mobile apps to drive clinical and financial results for its hospital and ambulatory clients in the United States. athenahealth has a network of more than 100,000 providers and 98 million patients
Very interesting because of the new Care Act in the USA which means medical APIs must be opened in a similar way to psd2 with banks in Europe

https://github.com/xiaoyao1991
>works at Twitter

>>7876926
if only you took 5 minutes to compile a simple example smart contract using the antshares compiler

then realized it took 5 minutes versus an entire day learning a million new dev tools for ETH

>>7877183
good work anon

>>7877167
REPENT

>>7873304
You realize anyone can write there? Could've been an ICO bagholder who tried to shill it. No major public attention is a GOOD thing by the way, unless you already own half the supply of LINK. But you don't, so shut the fuck up and accumulate.

Oldfag here, I come on time to time to see what’s up. Honestly times have changed since ant/eth. The community was smaller then and the fud was more funny like a skinny Russian scam artist. However those companies had large dev teams and real partnerships. It was obvious they’ll go somewhere. Link doesn’t have either and the secrecy suggests there is nothing going on behind the curtain. The idea that link on biz is like eth/ant before is a ploy for people to unload their bags on newfags.

>>7873325
>as long as Sergey is alive
I have received my orders.

>>7877282
ETH and BTC were grass roots

coincidently they are the top two

>>7876593
Chainlink has only these benefits theoretically. There hasn't been any real world use cases of the project yet so we don't really now if smart contract is trustless trough chainlink. There is only whitepaper and alpha version of mainnet. As soon as it is used by companys and larger institutions and they have confirmed it trustworthy, then we can talk about the real project behind speculation. Until then we should see some projects testing chainlink so it actually gets more positive hype around it. When mainnet arrives and if they reveal good partnerships who has been testing the project, it can go wild. Before that, everything is speculation. My guess is EOY 2018 15$, if they confirm at least 1-2 partnerships who actually are going to use chainlink.

A friend of mine got into ethereum under 20 bucks. Put in like $1000 and made around 50k. I started going on Biz late summer 2017 when ANS was being shilled relentlessly. I mentioned it to my friend, and that's when he told me how much money he had made (around 30k at that time). He said ETH was shilled here hard at $10 too. He told his parents to invest but they didn't and now that they've realized how much they've missed out on they've become heavily involved with crypto. It's funny. His mom was Adamant about buying the dip back in January. My mom tells me to sell every time I make $100. I put like 20% of my portfolio into ANS and doubled my money very quickly. I can confirm that nothing's been shilled here harder than ANS/NEO and LINK since I've been on biz, and my friend would say the same thing with Ethereum.

"buy chainlink" is the "install gentoo" of /biz/

>>7874038
>I am decent with computers
>cryptos are beyond me.

In the 90s, when people 'gorsh i can't figure out this website stuff, what is a server? nboody will ever use services on this, i have to pay a monthly subscription? I can get this information from a librarys.s'

The people who get in when it is complicated make money. The people who use it when normie-tier front ends are slapped on it, get to hand their money over to me at a 1000x profit-margin.

Stay cucked mr 'decent with computers'. You will be handing me your gas station wages soon enough.

>>7872902
>Link
>Hitting $1000 EOY
$1000 market cap maybe, no way this shitcoin with a 1 billion supply can hit $100, nevermind $1000.

If you want to get rich buy HPB, only 100m supply (same as ether) and is only $5 ea.

>>7879054
kek
>>>7879544
>muh marketcap
that shit is gonna get turned on it's head this year
>pic related

>>7873148
sir have you heard of mobius? sir what mobius does is solving this exact problem. sir please invest in mobius. please sir

Weren't there Sergey: Jason Parser memes?

>>7874038
Look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4&t=3s

Are you people literally retarded? All you have to do is calculate what the marketcap would have to be for 1000 LINK and you'd know its not possible for years. And by then, better tech or a real stock company will beat this company.

>>7879544
>HPB

they have 100,000,000 total supply though no?

>>7872902

I wish I had saved it, but I remember lurking in 2016 and seeing it EVERYWHERE here. It was as bad as link now

>>7880224
The internet used to be complicated too. You had to pick up a phone and dial a long distance number and place the phone on a receiver so it could "talk" to the servers.

Then we got on-board modems which allowed us to stop fucking with handsets and just dial the number.

Now we have dedicated lines that are always on.

Give it time.

>>7880999
Wrong anon, sorry.

>>7873021
proof?

>>7881023
Elaborate, faggot.

>>7881089
Elaborate what? I responded to the wrong anon.

>>7872953
>biz didn't exist 2 years ago
Newfag detected

>>7872902
don't buy link its a scam dont need weak handed autist that cant do their own research. buy mobius and get rich

>>7874632
Kill me.

>>7875562
You newfags lack the intuition to differentiate between pajeet shilling, discord group shilling and /biz/ shilling.

The only projects that has really gone through the /oldbiz/ level of autistic technological scrutiny, which of course happened before /biz/ was invaded by hordes of literal retards in December, and which passed in most /biz/raelis eyes were;
>Ethereum
>Dash [lol, but still profitable]
>Monero
>Antshares
>Digibyte [lol]
>OmiseGo
>ChainLink

Those are the ones /oldbiz/ as a whole has stood behind and vouched for. Everything else is either pajeets, discord groups or individual /biz/raelis having their individual beliefs.

>>7881546
/thread

>>7881546
100% agree

>>7881546
And the only ones still in their infancy are ChainLink and OmiseGo. Tech-wise ChainLink has an advantage (disregarding Plasma, as it's not part of OmiseGo itself), but OmiseGo began their marketing campaign straight away, whereas ChainLink still has that ace up their sleeve. Hence the OmiseGo marketcap has grown faster than ChainLink, because marketing does matter. Whereas one would expect ChainLink to grow faster than OmiseGo once they launch their marketing campaign, and OmiseGos' marketing begins to lose steam.

>>7881546
What? People already made fun of stinky linkies and fuded hard back in December and before
They even had more reasons then now

>>7873980
The coins will be drastically reduced for staking. So while total supply is high, the actual amount available to buy on exchanges will be quite low.

>>7881956
don't forget elix ;)

>>7872902
It's not going $100 EOY let alone $1000.

There was a front-page Reddit post on r/cc from somebody who admitted to being paid to shill projects under the guise of PR. One of the first coins he mentioned is LINK.

Yes, for the last few months, there is evidence that there has been paid LINK shills. Now there are useful idiots who do it for free.

>>7881546
Is req a scam?

>>7882323
December was when we hit absolute retard levels of discussion. /biz/ has been in a gradual decline since September/October, and probably a little before that.

And the Sibos decline made a lot of people fear a repeat of DGB. In reality both /biz/ and plebbit had hyped the fuck out of the conference, expecting Sergey to announce a SWIFT partnership on stage.

>>7882580
Also note that the FUD we experienced with all of the other on the list, except OmiseGo, was in regards to the technology. And that was good, because it gave us an even greater desire to research.

Believe it or not, /biz/ actually used to be a small board where threads would easily last 48 hours, and where people put their heads together in order to gain an advantage over normies, and ensure that we all made it together. And we did, for the most part. It wasn't at all like it is now, where everyone's trying to push their own shitcoin-bags on their fellow /biz/raelis with zero technological justification.

The FUD revolving around LINK has been retarded since day one. The only legit FUD I've ever seen, and I've browsed this shithole about 8 hours a day on average for the past 12 months, is Intel SGX and its recent issues.

>>7873065
>one quick look at Archives
>sees infinite ETH and NEO shills

Kys faggot. Pic relevant, it's you.

>>7879259
I heard about Ethereum when it was crazy cheap, like 40 cents. It was difficult to buy, and confusing, and I didn't really care enough. I shared some videos about potential applications, and then forgot about it and grew my business.

I'm not making that mistake again. Barrier to entry is a beautiful thing, just like Trumps wall will be. It keeps the hordes out, and lets us accumulate in peace.

>>7877183

Also Ahmad has been endorsed 3 times for having the specialist skill 'Oracle'

>>7882731
pathetic liar.

NEO didn't even exist then, it was still braned as Antshares at that time.

>>7882531
Who knows though, he could have been LARPING..

>>7875417
Can you brainlets stop arguing about JSON. They have an XML adapter too and can make others.

>>7882838
I read that post. They weren't paid. They were a group of individuals who collectively found projects that they believed in, and then launched a shill campaign in order to spread awareness of their investment and increase its value. If I'm not mistaken, they didn't dump their stacks once the value has increased, but held on.

Which is what everyone in crypto does.

>Buy
>Spread awareness

But since they did it in a non-honest fashion by replying to eachother, etc, the guy felt guilty.

>>7877183
I'm super bullish on LINK but come on, these guys are just low level devs that are likely contributing to chainlink independently.

>>7882946

No, no you don't understnad... Link is bad... peepol only say it gud because they get paid... buy Mobius.

>>7882838

>Paid shills = bad project

what is marketing?

>>7882531
Get real, no way Sergey or anyone in the LINK team would pay for shills. It was probably some bagholder, if it was even true.

>>7882759
...Does that mean smart contract oracle or could it have another meaning? big if true

>>7877183
I'm a Link fan but this is retarded detective work.
Companies have thousands of devs.

>>7874632
> a TrumpPoster from 2015 shilling ethereum at 1$

holy fuck

>>7883148
It's not retarded. Not saying it confirms anything but it's not retarded.
If any big company is working on chainlink stuff, there is a chance that the devs in question will have starred the github.
Like, we found J Bonilla by looking at his starred github, and it turned out to be true.
The Ahmad guy also has the CL cube logo generator starred so he's probably browsing biz

>>7882761
Fucking newfag, no shit I meant Antshares. Kill yourself reddit faggot

Newfags, read this.

https://www.americanbanker.com/news/the-race-to-connect-smart-contracts-to-the-real-world

>>7883148
Man, I have been so far up the corporate ass I feel the need to tell people who haven't been within big corporate companies but they really are houses of cards. Everybody within are fucking useless with 10% towing the line . It's a fucking joke. It's just welfare. Corporate tech projects usually fail unless they are maybe companies like Facebook or google. Useful devs are extremely rare

>>7883931
Wait. Sergey and LINK has been in American Banker? What the flying fuck? That's like being featured in the WSJ, except actual influental people read AB.

>>7883931
why the fuck haven't i seen this posted here before?

>>7873946
>Can you explain to me what even this coin is? I read that it is supposed to connect existing businesses to the crypto market but that is stupid, any business can just get a wallet and trade any coins they want already. They don't need any shitcoin to do that.
>So why would anyone want to invest in this?

>>7872902
>I want to believe LINK can hit $1,000 EOY,
eoy 2018? No
eoy 2019? maybe

>>7884770
EOY 2018 will be 250USD. I will sell 25% of my stack to get a Ferrari 458 Italia Spyder.

Thanks Sergey.

>>7874828
*poos*

>>7884816
would buy real estate instead, rent it and travel around the world

>>7881135
>can't understand sarcasm
Even newer fag pajeeted

>>7882323
Did you ever stop to wonder if the people fudding it back then were also the biggest bagholders?

t. brainlet

>>7884816

You've got good taste, anon. Don't let any of these toyota driving cucks convince you otherwise.

Is there a point to owning fewer than 10k and starting a node? I can only afford 2k.

>>7873318
>using the old BAT FUD for LINK
Made me lol

>>7873325
I wouldnt stop coming here or trading after i made it, what makes you think others are different?

>>7872902
My experience: I came here in early 2016 after I won a lawsuit for 100k. I asked biz what to do with it, the general consensus was to put 60k in ethereum when it was just a dollar or so. I ended up going with vanguard, lol fuck my life. The thread is probably still out there in an archive somewhere.

>>7885172
You go back into schools after graduating?

Most people are not teachers. As time goes on the quality of a board always decreases. Coming back to wade through more shit is masochistic.

>>7874027
Do you know if the SWIFT oracle will be a part of the chainlink network?

>>7885452
Probably in one way or another

>>7885452
Nobody knows for sure, but most signs point to probably in some degree. Read >>7883931

>SmartContract is already having concrete discussions with Swift about phase two of the implementation, according to Nazarov, and Nolan said her organization looks forward "to exploring potential opportunities to work together in the future."

>>7885452
>>7885452
I don't think anything has been officially said in regards to that, but assuming there's been an offer, they could choose not to mostly due to workload considerations everything else is mostly upside and at least at the start the external load should be pretty light. The thing is that the creator of the smart contract can still decide to trust one node in particular, effectively giving up decentralization. IMO the best path for Swift is to keep both options open, if Chainlink is amazing they have a node on the network that should have decent reputation, if it doesn't they still have their own oracle but it's possible they're not too greedy and are just happy working for thousands of banks. In Sibos they tested bond payments, later Swift said they would be using smart contracts for bond payments. But again, nothing official.

>>7885912
True, but it could just mean SWIFT is using the technology, not the token.

>>7882674
this. street shitting pajeets ruined biz.

>>7886169
Yes. That's what I'm leaning towards, although the "to exploring potential opportunities to work together in the future" part looks good for LINK.

And even if Swift has nothing to do with the LINK tokens, the technology they'll be using will be an extension of ChainLink. Their success will be reflected onto LINK, because the creators are the very same.

If that were to be the case, that one scenario would play out like Ripple. Except Swift is about a thousand times more respected in the financial world than MoneyGram or Western Union. And besides that, the ChainLink tokens will still be useful for operating oracles for anyone that isn't Swift.

Swift would just be something to market that the best of the best trusts the technology behind ChainLink; so you can too.

>>7872902

>>7886169

>>7872902
Pic related

>>7872902

Meme coin alert
Sergay will exit scam
Screen cap this
>89 cents Eoy

>>7872902
well

>>7872902
>pic

>>7874820
What are the benefits to potential partners by having a NDA until a certain date?

>>7886169
the token is needed for the technology.

>>7886505
it's so they aren't able to disclose information before the agreement expires.

>>7873325
>>7873325
This basically sums up how I “made it”. Started going to 4chan with pol right before Trump campaign(yes I’m a newfag I don’t give a shit), then ventured over to biz basically around the time ETH started getting popular. Was already invested in some BTC but a friend tipped me to biz and ETH so I went in on that. After a nice gain I made some bad trades and went all in on ANS. Which got me to the few hundred thousand I’m at now. I don’t quite remember the ETH shilling since I got in a bit later but my buddy tells me it was big and ANS certainly was too. Needless to say I’m now putting about 10 percent (maybe a bit more) into LINK. Worst case it doesn’t do shit and I’ve lost 10-20 percent of my portfolio but with all this shilling why not take a risk. I wouldn’t have zip close to what I have now if it wasn’t for crypto anyway

>>7880656

>All you have to do is calculate what the marketcap would have to be

If you're going to be a namefag, which you shouldn't want to be in the first place, try not to say retarded shit. Market cap is an atrociously inaccurate metric without knowing order book depth and actual circulating supply.

>>7886505
Serious corporations care greatly about their public image and brand. Having NDAs until everything is sorted is a safeguard against potential bad press, as well as not showing your competition your cards until you launch.

Imagine you're running a respected company in the world of insurance. You've decided that you want to be the first in the business to run part of your operation using smart contracts. Your partner is a start-up company without a finished product. And your competition is always looming.

So what do you do? You ask that they stay quiet until everything is ready. And if they fuck everything up and flop, your brand name remains intact. And you can quietly find other routes to achieve your goals without having your competition get there first.

>>7886614
Yes im well aware of what an NDA is. I'm asking for possible reasoning in why one would be put in place? Why is it too soon to announce partnerships, why not just let the info out so more people can look into it quicker?

>>7886699
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
I'm buying more and more into Link everyday.

>>7874632
>>>/biz/thread/S971481#p971484
holy fuck, those no-ethers have probably necked themselves by now

>>7886734
They don't need public investors. They need institutional and corporate interest and a finished, working product.

You don't get that from /biz/ and /r/cryptocurrency.

So NDAs are there to attract partners who don't want their name tied to some random project that a bunch of autists spam about on the internet.

Do you guys think he made it? I wonder if he still browses /biz/.

Ethereum was talked about, not shilled so hard by pajeet pump and dump groups that the front page was full of threads containing the same shitty copy pasta
There is a great difference

Also, ANY coin that is claimed as "this was just like btc or eth back in 2010 or 2016" is a guaranteed 100% shit coin
Its the lowest of the low shill tactic

>>7887325
well said, and i might usually agree

but not in this case brother

LINK wins

we are the chosen ones

>>7887325
LINK is a game changer like the Ethereum.
Thanks to Sergey.

>>7887325
That's an effect of the December newfags ruining anything they touch. It's fucking sad, because they did the very same thing to the OmiseGo threads.

Before they arrived we'd have the usual 1 LINK thread in the catalogue, filled with LINK holders who were bored out of their minds because there was nothing to do, other than to speculate and discuss the tech. Now the retarded newfags are spamming "LINK $1000 EOY" everywhere, and it's fucking annoying, but it doesn't change the tech.

>>7877167
Oh yeah? But think about how much money Link has after marrying that Princess, retard.

>>7887533
dunning kruger effect is strong, enjoy your depression and denial

>>7887533
Link marines were born in October
Its always been a shit coin since day one of token release

>>7873927
Thanks anon, I'm buying more as soon as some more funds transfer. Appreciate the comfy post.

>>7872953
I’m with this anon, please stop with the ChainLink bullshit. And for anyone that’s unaware don’t buy any of the nonsensical crap that people are saying about it being worth hundreds of dollars by the end of the year because it is all extremely unlikely for this company that is just trying to get your money before it goes under at this point.

>>7887685
I remember the first lambo posts. This board turned into a LINK territory since Sibos Conference

>>7872902
>https://4archive.org/board/biz/thread/1050666

This is the thread that I earned about ETH.
Replace the word ETH with LINK and you'll get the same fud.

>>7888512
sound familiar?

JUST BUY LINK AND GET RICH IT AIN'T HARD

Bet on meme magic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNtYmdZ-4c

>>7888670
If my LINK stack moons and with Trump as my president I don't think I'll be able to contain myself. What a timeline.

>>7888563
No?

>>7888512
Wow no dude jesus christ link is a million times worse. That thread is like a meeting of the ancient Roman senate compared to the fucking multicoloured diarrhoea tornado that is linkposting

>>7888670

Someone needs to make a Sergey rendition of this, BTW.

>>7872953
a part of the fun is playing into the LINK fagdom so that people will lose their money

>>7872902
>>7889414