/biz/ - Business & Finance

There hasn't really been a huge pump, so i'm not expecting a dump to happen either. Perhaps just a small dump

>>7736231
>https://pastebin.com/nXwZzDi2
Interesting read, thanks. So you say big finance is afraid of me?
t. 22yo kid wird 1,3MM ETH

>>7736231
don't click that, it's a spearfishing link. you'll lose everything.

>>7736231
are you going to stick around? ive been sitting on /biz/ waiting for everytime you post

>>7736342

Incredibly afraid, consider not only that you control more than 1% of what may become a truly critical piece of digital infrastructure in the future (the nature of any consensus protocol is to form a positive feedback loop and monopolise, hence why it's important LINK deploys first) but you always had the resolve and fortitude to not sell at 1/10/100 USD, as a 22 y.o that would make you very dangerous indeed.

>>7736231
AAAHHHHH WHERE THE FUCK DID MY LINK GO

Even ETH whales have small amounts of money comared to what legacy financial institutions have at their disposal. That hardly seems like an impediment to me. If they really believe its the future couldn't they just buy these kids out.

>>7736430
so they are scare they wont have 360 control?
And the off chance a bunch of NEETS are holding 1% each kinda makes them nervous?

iv got 75k mainly due to not wanting to be left out if /biz/ is actually right about this... whats the chances of this hitting $10 this year?

>>7736532
>>7736550

Imagine if there is someone that has 1 million ethereum who has for whatever reason not sold, that means they held through 1 million used, 10, 100, 200, 400, etc, and now that have almost 1 billion USD. This is like a cancer cell, you can ignore it now but they get more and more powerful if you do. If ethereum reaches it's loftier expectations this individual could be worth 1% of a trillion dollars. Now then imagine if there were 50 or 100 people who controlled 10%, and so on. I'm not saying this is their primary hindrance, what I am saying is their in no rush and they see any crash as a win-win for now, so will institutional money buy in: yes, will they FOMO in with market orders: no. This may seem obvious to you, but to many people it isn't.

I can't believe people still eat this kids shit up.

he's probably the greatest LARPER on this board, but a LARPER nonetheless.

>>7736613

Apologies for the spelling errors, I haven't had much sleep, had to fly on a red-eye.

>>7736628
Most people here are idiots you know

>>7736613
you seem more and more credible to me by the way you talk and the words that you use. Not because of you shilling link. You talk like you have the mindset of one of them. And this is why im pretty much going all in on link then ehtirum.

>>7736613
So the people that matter are only taking ethereum seriously and none of the so-called eth killers?

>>7736231
>https://pastebin.com/nXwZzDi2
NOOOOOO
MY LINKKKKKKKKK
THEY'RE ALL GONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7736231
Great call on this weeks accumulation
Thoughts on yesterday's pump?

tl;dr

>>7736722

Correct, you see this is all a new revolutionary paradigm to the hoi poloi, but 'disruptive' technology is not as disruptive as it's marketed. It all plays out rather predictably for the serious money, granted crypto has taken them for a bigger turn than most new technologies (they don't even try to hide this anymore) but the general thought it: establish the most suitable infrastructure candidate first and foremost, acquire control of this, then start developing and investing in 'products'. Ethereum is the only thing that can be likened to 'infrastructure' right now, and legacy investors are going to focus mostly on that and then things that are actual services/products. ChainLINK would also fall into the category of infrastructure.

>>7736722
well theres more money to be made with eth. It's cheaper so they can scoop up more.

I read someplace to that vitalik was given money from peter thiel l to. So essential its pretty much been controlled from the start and the fact the plebs got a piece of it makes them nervous

>legacy corporations
what do you mean by this exactly?

What is this shit dumping at and when is all I want to know. It's been stuck around the same price for about 24 hours now. Somewhat annoying.

>>7736824

oh and this is why they hate btc too i'd assume right?

becasue some guy or guys made it

>>7736793
A few weeks ago you said this document was 1 of 2 documents that confirmed that SWIFT is actually pushing for an open banking inititiative and explicitly states that they want to achieve this via “community driven decentralised networks”

https://www.swiftinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/SIWP-2016-001-Impact-Open-APIs-FINAL.pdf

What was that second document? I don't think anyone has found it yet.

when is link reaching a million

>>7736973
god dam. Hes dropping more important shit then link going to 1 milly

>>7736997
and what i already read it, stuff that people already knew if they were smart, dumb AB worshipper

>>7736912

This anon is asking the right questions. Written by the same guy as the one you linked.

https://www.swiftinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Markos-Pinar-Damian-Open-APIs.pdf

Slides 7-9 are particularly important.

And this isn't even everything but the other documents are not publicly available on the internet.

>>7736793
What's happening with permissioned blockchains? SWIFT itself ran the poc on hyperledger, and project ubin (rumors about chainlink implementation) seemed to test Quorum, corda, and hyperledger. Will they really say fuck it them and use a public blockchain?

>>7736231
TY AB As always a pleasure

>>7737104

They will absolutely not use a public blockchain, the LINK token is built on Ethereum which acts as a contract administrator to ensure node payments, the LINK Node NETWORK itself will handle datat processing and will do so for public and private blockchains. This is clear to anyone who has read the whitepaper or even understands what the point of ERC20 is, stop thinking that the token is the product, it's the deed to the product, the product is the network.

we.trade (formerly digital trade chain consortium) is also launching their test product in february allegedly, any truth to that being a chainlink implementation? Project ubin phase 3 is happening this quarter and it's running tests on Singapore Exchange bond payments.

>>7737104
Doubt it. That's why I think AB is a LARPer. HyperLedger is being worked on by a multitude of corporations. I doubt they will ever actually use Ethereum. HyperLedger is built FROM Ethereum. Why use the public chain when you can just use the private chain instead and not deal with those "mined Bitcoin a decade ago" millionaires? He's definitely a LARPer.

>>7736793
So BLZ, RLC, STORJ fall into infrastructure as well?

>>7736793
a few threads back you said you had "leaked" chainlink documents on your laptop you intended to share. when do you plan on posting them?

>posts literally days before the huge crash saying big institutional.money is going to pump the price up
>no word from him for weeks while everything goes to shit
>suddenly reapears when everything is nice and calm and the market is pumping
>Insider here ! P-please believe me
yeah fuck off

>>7737167
I don't mean for chainlink itself I was just asking about the future of smart contract deployment and the potential future value of ether. Would they choose ethereum or permissioned blockchains was the question really. You seem to see a lot of stuff saying corporations don't find a public blockchain suitable for their use because of privacy issues.

>>7737220
Are you retarded, he posted to tell us that there would be a crash, baka.

>>7737220

I posted right before ChainLINK increased saying it would increase that same week. Also right before the crash I told everyone to get out of any shitcoins, I didn't know the extent of the crash, no one can predict that, but any anons who followed my advice saved and made a lot of money. Not that past performance is a future indicator, always DYOR but don't spread baseless accusations in my threads.

Also another document some anons should go through for clues:

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_The_future__of_financial_services.pdf

Notice the guy who works for SWIFT as well, he'll be important later.

>>7737185
>>7737251

That was really my question but I think he misunderstood.

>>7736793
>new revolutionary paradigm

>>7737220
Seriously shut up or kill yourself
He told us the exact mechanism of the crash and when those accounts being held would then be opened
If you were literate in English you could have realistically timed the market for the last few months off AB posts

Why do you even live?

>>7737273
do you think chian link will dump a little after the talks?

>>7737251

Because corporations see Ethereum as the legislative branch of the growing data economy. See the nature of legislation is that it is decentralised, or must at least partially be, your question is sort of like saying 'why would corporations donate to presidential campaigns instead of just forcing their own president on the American people', Ethereum derives its value from being public and decentralised. It's disruptive but legacy corporations have more to gain adapting and adopting than fighting. Fighting has never worked.

What about bitcoin? How deep are they in btc?

>>7737095
>>7737273
you're missing your trips AB

>>7737298
I wish I did. I didn't believe him until after the crash. There's no way he predicted the three predictions I've seen come true without inside knowledge. He's not LARPing.

Go put more XMR on you're trezor faggot. You're completely full of shit but it doesn't matter either way really, you won't have any effect on its success/failure. Go home.

>>7737336
etherium is the one ring basically

>>7737336
>but legacy corporations have more to gain adapting and adopting than fighting.
Ah okay, that's sort of what i've been tumbling over in my head. Whether they'd shoehorn what they've been doing into permissioned blockchains as long as they could or if a real revolution would happen. We had a bitcoin frenzy this winter, we'll have an ethereum frenzy as the mainstream media begins focusing on what it means for society in the coming months I think. After they've accumulated I'm sure.

>I asked about ChainLINK

To the trash it goes

>>7737337

Don't know. Also Hyperledger will see growth and adoption, but there must be a point of interface between Hyperledger and Ethereum, because there is no value in a truly centralised ledger precisely because blockchain ledgers are actually extremely inefficient. If they were revolutionary technology they would have been adopted two decades ago, the entire point of blockchain is it is community driven and decentralised. If you do even a little bit of digging into bank research this has been a hot topic for literally several years. You are blinded by this cynical assumption that they'll never co-operate with a bunch of 'loser' early adopter NEETs, etc. but this is facile reasoning. It's a bit like saying corporations will make their own private internet and they would never allow for a bunch of losers to have access to all the media in the world and for university students to program websites and become billionaires. Then in retrospect it all seems so inevitable.

Change is the only constant.

Link will never be over $10 despite what assblaster says. Screencap this.

>>7737190
He won't. He's fucking LARPing hard man. I can't believe people fall for this shit. Is everyone in here a fucking teenager?

Sure, AB could be working in the financial industry. But so far his love to ChainLink doesn't come from it's popularity in that industry but because he PERSONALLY thinks it's a good investment. That's it. So far he has mentioned he talked to two people about ChainLink and none of them have a clue about it according to him.

Then we also uncovered IBM papers talking about Oracles and they never once mention ChainLink.

Then we found out that the ChainLink contract between Sony AXA was actually a test done in a hackathon by Sergey and it has nothing to do with Sony and AXA.

So really, the only connection to the financial industry I see is the SWIFT PoC. But just because they did a PoC it doesn't mean it will really be used. In fact, the IBM papers tells us they're building an in house oracle.

Then you have SmartContract.com front page saying they're working directly with SWIFT to create their own "Smart Oracles".

Then you have SWIFT gpi releasing this quarter. How can SWIFT be really using ChainLink if the actual full main net of ChainLink won't be live until later this year or early next year? It's obvious that swift is not going to use ChainLink from all those hints.

ChainLink is not trash though. I myself own 60k LINKs because I know it's functionality is beyond SWIFT. But seriously, AB is a LARPer. Literally every he comes on there is a pump followed by a dump. IMO he could be from a circle of pump and dumpers and they're fooling everyone on 4chan because of it. I know it's hard to admit but that's the reality. And unlike plebbit harsh truth are always realized here.

Anyone who believes this closet homosexual named AssBlaster is a complete retard.

Hi AB, what do you think about the unilever "insider"? Eventually he rick rolled everyone and never posted the PDF.

Link: https://archived.moe/biz/thread/S7589929

>>7737373
biz is a magical fucking place
there have been insiders with years of trading knowledge giving tips worth thousands of dollars on an almost daily basis
half of the responses are FUK U WHICH WAY TA SEZ BTC GO?!?!?!?
fucking. delicious.

>>7737422

This. He's a larper from discord that's made some lucky guesses and also reinforced some common sense shit about the token

Is there any news on the state of chainlink? Are more firms and data providers committing to setting up nodes and selling APIs to node operators? Is there more evidence than last time you were here that Sergey has been succsful with finding data providers and smart contract writers for launch? Several of the larpers have seemed to focus on that aspect, Swisscom in particular is supposed to have been busy.

>>7737415
i dont know what to ask you but i thanks for being here. IS there anything we should be asking or you want to say that we are missing?

>>7737422
>Then we found out that the ChainLink contract between Sony AXA was actually a test done in a hackathon by Sergey and it has nothing to do with Sony and AXA.

very interested in a source for this

>>7737273
Seriously AB? You're using WEF as an example to back ChainLink?? WEF is literally working directly with Ripple. Wtf are you on about?!??

>>7737422
>Then we also uncovered IBM papers talking about Oracles and they never once mention ChainLink.
this is literally certifiably false my friend. Everyone disregard this post because he's arguing in bad faith, regardless of what you think of AB.

It sounds like we'll be hitting 10k Ethereum at some point based on what you're saying. Is that accurate, or am I thinking too big or small?

>>7737381
XMR may be a bit different since there's a reason for it to work as the currency itself inside its own network.

>>7736231
Thanks!

Should I sell my stake in chain link now and buy back in after the conference?

>>7737422
>>7737424
>>7737455

I believe skepticism is healthy and you honestly shouldn't trust anything I say because you want it to be true, nor anyones. Instead evaluate what I say based on it's intuitive logic and the leads I present based on what the content of those leads are.

>>7737488

Follow people more than terms. I see too many people looking through documents for the exact word 'ChainLINK' instead look for names popping up across documents. This is a much harder web to untangle but it yields better answers.

>>7737509

WEF is a forum where many ideas and developments are discussed and exchanged, I'm telling you to try and piece together a picture several years in the making, look for trends and terms and people across industries. Not to even mention Ripple and ChainLINK aren't actually competitors.

What's your estimated cut of smart contract value for the chainlink network? If you're writing a smart contract for 1 million and using the chainlink network, what percentage of that is being paid out to the network? 1%? .1%?

>>7737553
>Not to even mention Ripple and ChainLINK

just diffrent peices to the same puzzle?

>>7737553
and again thank you for your time. Even if you are shit posting.

>>7737600
Ripple and Chainlink do two completely different things. Don't see how they're related.
>>7737553
What's your opinion on the interledger project?

>>7737553
>That is why Sergey has been working so hard and communicating so little, there is a very real race against the clock right now, if LINK successfully deploys a fundamentally useable product, it’s not only going to cement itself and increase in price, it is literally going to suck the life and value out of every vapourware ERC20 out there. It is interesting, and surely no coincidence, that the deployment timeline for LINK is right on schedule for the entrance of legacy corporations.

This is fucking intense. Are we effectively on a make-or-break path now?

>Follow people more than terms. I see too many people looking through documents for the exact word 'ChainLINK' instead look for names popping up across documents. This is a much harder web to untangle but it yields better answers.

Also, anons are starting to dig into any potential persons/people involved, but this looks very speculative:
>>7713919
>Guys. I have provided pieces of a larger puzzle. I ask that you respect these peoples privacy while at the same time figure out how involved they are with link.
>Is there another project that has so many large company / dev connections with 0 communication? WHY? The answer should come 3/20

Looks like it could a lot of wild goose-chasing
But is there any clues by doing this: >>7710707
>PDFS (cloudstorage) and docusign will play a huge role in smart contracts.

Are we looking in the right places, or do we need to go back to square one?

Are there any factors in your opinion that could cause Link to fail either before or after mainnet launch?

I'm so happy with my linkies

>>7736430
>but you always had the resolve and fortitude to not sell at 1/10/100 USD
Well I was in a hospital for several months and my gf left me and during that time I just forgot about ETH. I would have sold it ALL at 10-100 USD. Guess getting into a car accident was the luckiest moment of my life. I do not even know what to do now. Should I just market sell it all and crash the ship with no survivors? Nah. If what you say is true, I want to be important with all my ETH. They can come to me and ask nicely.

>>7737661
nvm im an idoit.

Been accumulating for months :)

>>7737519
How is this false? Prove it! I've read through the entire thread when it was happening. I've read through ever link that was posted that day. And literally there was ZERO mention of ChainLink even though they were talking abiut Oracles and the sentiment that I got from the papers is that they are working on an in house oracle.

If you think I'm lying, then prove to that ChainLink was actually mentioned in those papers. Go ahead. Post a screenshot. Post a link. Show me. But you won't because you can't.

I'm invested in ChainLink myself. Im all in. But there is a huge fetish here over finding new information about ChainLink since there is never news. 4chan is essentially hallucinating at this point trying to see "hints" everywhere when there are none.

>>7737662

Docusign will be huge, don't know about PDFS, but perhaps the biggest source of clues is PSD2, start reading through documents planning and discussing PSD2 and look for names and then try to trace them back to LINK. I'm not trying to be deliberately vague, it's just I know of a few very specific examples that I absolutely cannot divulge, but I suspect there are more.

Mr. Assblaster, is it Tokia exchange?

>>7737788
yeah i was curous about this too. I think the ico closed so you should be good to talk abou tit right

>>7737788
yes go all in sir very good exchange sir

>>7737768

>>7737788
Anyone who isn't retarded knows it's Coinmetro

>>7737834
What is this. Why are there different fonts (calibri and helvetica) and also a typo right in the first word. No way this is some corporate document. This is embarassing.

>>7737820
It was Globitex. The ICO is closed, the tokens aren't for sale and the subreddit is full of literal pajeets

>>7737834

That document is false and anyone who fell for it is a retard, the cons don't even make sense. That does not mean IBM isn't involved with ChainLINK, however if you're looking at IBM as a sign of value, don't. They have serious cashflow issues and the corporation is basically whoring itself out to any remotely new tech to excite investors. This is why Stellar Lumens got blown out despite the IBM 'connections'.

>>7737273

For the lazy linkies, this is the SWIFT employee acknowledged in the weforum pdf.

Thank you based AssBlaster

>>7737692
Good LARP you fucking weirdo

>>7737783
I know you cant possible know the EOY price for link but im just wondering what you think is possible?

>>7737783
Alright thanks, we really need to start discussing PSD2 and the documents more. There were only a handful of such threads in the past two weeks. Telegram groups and even LINKTrader and the slack is becoming easier to discuss shit.
What is this pronounced FUD and derailing that we're seeing now? It can't just be bagholders and trolls, can it? Are we seeing literal psyops happening here, or has this board just become more shit. Anyways, let me know if you guys wanna discuss this shit on the telegram groups or slack.

>>7737921
I didnt ask for your opinion, bro. Was talking to OP

>>7737942
i def do but i dont hace acces to either. Im a NEET. This has been the highlight of my life the past year.

I actually think there are so many people trying to buy the dip after the conference that the price might actually never dip. Remember SIBOS? That time everybody expected the price to soar and it dumped. Now it's the other way around.

>>7737900
Are these people afraid that they are going to be left behind by technology ? Are they afraid they will be replaced by programmers in the long therm ?

>>7737942
Why are you guys so eager to fight it out about ChainLink? If you like the coin, invest. If not, dont. Why are you arguing like retarded children. All you say does not matter anyway

>>7737942
this is old news there have been enough people already turned on it that so far it doesn't get much more concrete than the sort of stuff assblaster just posted and I doubt there's a smoking gun out there or it would have been outed. Even the swift institute open api document was known if not discussed that much before it got shared in the assblaster thread. At this point all we can do is wait for something new to come out.

>>7736342
0x32cfA4420cc04A54e06e103474Cb3AB1Dc5ccc6f

1 ETH FOR THE TRUTH!!

>>7736231
>I met with a certain Swiss banker of a Dutch background
>google
> Friedrich Gutmann

That niggas been dead for like 70 year you retard.

Y'all should dump this fucken LINK as soon as y'all can or y'all are gonna get y'all's AssBLASTED haha

>>7736231
why has no one called out this isn't the real AB. this is coordinated as fuck

>>7736430
LMAO this dude thinks someone has 1% of supply of ETH. BAHAHAHA

Are you ever going to post proof you have 200k or did you do that already?

>>7738072
Why does it matter ? the price of link doesn't move because of him so in the grand scheme he's irrelevant.

>>7738060

The guy I'm talking about does not have a wikipedia article, he isn't remotely well known outside of professional circles, I'm using him as a litmus test against other 'insiders'.

>>7738131
>Why does it matter ?
this is such a dumb question I don't even know where to start

>>7736231
Do you believe in flippening?

https://twitter.com/andy_lucerne

>>7738072
>MBPenmwX43G
it's the same trip

>>7737900
>>7738155
So what would cause LINK to fail to deliver at this point? Any warning signs we should look for? Because it's more becoming the case that it's all pointing toward good things to come right now, or at least no major warning signals

>>7738123
>>7737900

Because the fact that you see IBM as a shit company shows me you actually are not LARPing and that you do work in Finance. I shorted IBM in my PA and made a good chunk off of it because let's be honest Watson is a joke and the company has been in shambles ever since they sold off their hardware business and Oracle, Intel and new startups have been eating their lunch.

I work at a bulge bracket bank and would like to swap info with you. I'd like for a way to send you a message and I've heard sending it through the ETH blockchain would be a secure way of doing so. It's totally up to you and understand the risks involved but if you would like to get in touch please post an ETH address you control so I can send a message.

>>7738155
Give us some price predictions for link and eth so we can see if you're good at this.

>>7738072
Tripcode of op is original assblaster. The other anon posting as if he is assblaster, can't confirm but he at least writes intelligently

Honestly this board is surprisingly populated with better minds then it deserves.

>>7736231
I need to know : thoughts on GVT?

>>7738267
sure kid give me a second would love to exchange ETH wit u

>>7736231

Should we expect a dump after the conference?

>>7738366
>what is id
took the b8

>>7737834
>_> I was referring to the email archives. This paper showed they're comparing different oracle systems. They didn't even do proper research for ChainLink in that paper you posted. The cons are literally copy paste from another comparison.

The email archives showed that the end goal is to have an in house oracle that's why they were discussing details of implementation in those emails.

>>7738297

See: ID. No imposter in this thread.

>>7738267

Make a disposable email account and I'll message you, I won't divest any personal details but maybe you run in the same financial circles, who knows. I won't do an email til tomorrow though because I'm barely managing to stay away right now.

>>7738279

Covered in past threads.

>>7738425

I don't know, I'm not the oracle of delphi, I don't actually predict so much as reveal insider knowledge, I don't know of anyone selling post conference but there are plenty of pump and dump groups who could be riding LINK so it's anyone's bet. Although it won't dump anywhere near as hard as SIBOS, markets don't tend to repeat exactly.

>>7737783
You have to give us a bit more than that. There must be hundred of documents talking about psd2. We will will never find it

>>7738475

Use keywords to narrow down the pile. You didn't think 'DYOR' just meant reading a single whitepaper?

Why dont you all just calm down and hold if you like the coin. Why playing sherlocks, I dont understand.

>>7738492
Why cant you just link it ? I know how to get people interested and how to manipulate people but if you truly give a fuck why not link it?

Assblaster here, you dumb fucks are really easy to manipulate. Suck my balls and give me 0.1 eth and get 1 eth in return!

>>7738492
What keywords?
Fucking psd2 and SmartContract.com is only going to turn up /biz/ posts

>>7738492
Can you please tell me if GVT will succeed?

>>7738550
Because he is not for real, he is making fun of you. Its fun to say some nebulous stuff and go durr dig deeper.
Truth is, you like the coin, you hold.

>>7738464
Doubt it, I'm based in NYC. Part of my desk is in Europe but my job doesn't cover crypto, I just hear bits and pieces. Gonna be honest, pretty new to all this cryptography stuff but how will I know it's you that's contacting me not one of the autists on this board?

Since you don't use this tripcode anymore !!N0bsArEgJCr could you send me an email with the hash that produces it or some other way to prove that its actually you?

chadofork@protonmail.com

>>7738689
Why are you lying?

>>7738689
>>7738492

Also let me know when you have it, I'll be deleting the message

>>7738464
Do you believe in flippening?

>>7738599
yeah im trying to look this up but i dont even know where to start

>>7738550

This is honestly the last one I'm linking:

https://www.ingwb.com/media/1609652/banking-on-blockchain.pdf

Page 4:

The paper also flags a number of prerequisites for blockchain to fulfil its potential
in financial services – and beyond. Key among these is achieving a standard way
of implementing the technology. A shared ledgering technology that can provide a
consistent view across the broad business network needs a standard way of transferring
ledger data. Organisations will participate in multiple ledgers – an FX network, a bond
network, et cetera. Just as the internet and intranets share the same technology, so the
blockchain proposition needs interoperability to function.

>Organisations will participate in multiple ledgers – an FX network, a bond
network, et cetera. Just as the internet and intranets share the same technology, so the
blockchain proposition needs interoperability to function.

>>7736231
Thank you for the info

When is LINK going to dip, so I can go ahead and all in this shit?

>>7738492
Is the chainlink price going to crash soon? When should i buy?

>>7738689

I'll message with the hash corresponding to this ID.

>>7738715
don't bother it's still in the archive

>>7738059
shoo pajeet, back into your hole

>>7738784
Deleted

>>7738754

>>7736231
From a mere speculative point of view, what are your predictions in price for this year? Also, about how long do we have to accumulate at current prices?

>>7738754
>https://www.ingwb.com/media/1609652/banking-on-blockchain.pdf
Thanks. So you're saying the author of this paper or the content of it are what's interesting?

>>7738754

Should I dump my REQ for link?

>>7738754
>https://www.ingwb.com/media/1609652/banking-on-blockchain.pdf
Thanks, it will be easier to take it from there.

>interoperability
Thoughts on on pic related? I'm thinking this also research pointer, along with PSD2 and open banking APIs

>>7738885
what did it say

any thoughts at this on similar platforms like NEO etc. since people are taking out big positions in ETH and view it as infrastructure?

>>7738817
Well... try this epic post

>>7738949
I can't make that decision for you.

>>7738972
Good direction, think infrastructure.

>>7738983
Basically, whether you invest in NEO or ETH, I can't honestly advise you, too many factors. What I can say is look for infrastructure that understands the origin of value. Do not look at 'digital stamps' like Ripple and Raiblocks that basically do nothing. They want to dethrone BTC but the value case for BTC is an entirely different story I can't get into now. But I've gone on a lot about my hatred for Raiblocks and to a lesser extent Ripple, in previous threads.

AssBlaster, should we sell the news tomorrow when sergey gives his speach and then rebuy?

>>7739036
most of my holdings are ETH, NEO, LINK, VEN at the moment, I never got into XRB since I thought bitgrail was sketchy and would exit scam (which they did).

just hoping for another pump so that I can buy another 200k LINK, I have 100k at the moment

>>7738754
>As a ledgering technology, blockchain will not replace the payment systems or the
messaging systems deployed by banks, but these systems will connect to the blockchain,
augmenting existing business networks and providing increased discoverability and
trust.
How long do you think LINK's lifespan will be? LINK seems to be the temporary bridge the banks will be using to connect to the blockchain, but eventually they'll fully integrate themselves to it. Seems it's only a matter of time. LINK should be good for several years though, right?

>>7739036
>>7739081
also, any thoughts on skycoin

>>7739089

Complex question, basically no one knows the future but I wouldn't worry about anything further than 2021, at least not when investing in rapidly evolving tech. Keep your eyes on that mid-game, 1-3 years.

>>7739107

Genuinely really like Skycoin, I can't advise anyone to buy it but I have like 1k lying around generating coinhours. I like synth more than your average dev.

>>7739036
Would you consider making a telegram channel?

Not a group, that'd ruin it... but a channel might be interesting.

>>7739036
https://academic.oup.com/ijlit/article/25/3/179/3106217
>the financial and banking sectors represent smart contracts most immediate testing ground.
>Also talks about oracles
Has this been posted here before? I just found it

>>7736793
So do you think link will win the race? Does this make somethin like request worthless because they have no product

>>7739036

Wait, you seriously think RaiBlocks is a digital stamp?

Holy shit I was actually deeply convinced that you're legit but now I'm re-evaluating.

>>7739155
what do people in banking think of nominal "ETH killers" like EOS/ADA? no one here seems to care much about ADA and the consensus seems to be that EOS is a scam

>>7739207
no one cares about XRB, because it's trash anyway

>>7739089
>>7739155
There legacy systems need a ridiculous overhaul. Sergey has talked about this:
https://youtu.be/MfH1B85YyFU

At 43:00 he reckons that banks are going to be using their traditional standards for the next decade:
>You want to involve these participants with a lot of smart people and regulated capital to work on smart contracts
>The systems you have today, can talk to the systems you want to use tomorrow.
Really cool selling point for LINK in those two phrases.

Send me .1 ETH and I’ll send back 1 ETH along with Chainlinks EOY price

0x33d54E74EE7e663266eBCF0D758E4f777D1fF669

post timestamped sharpie in pooper for 1 ETH

>>7739155
>Keep your eyes on that mid-game, 1-3 years.
Best tips for exactly this?

Sorry if this was answered before, came back to biz after a looong time (PhD Student)

>>7739310
>>7739319

please unironically kill yourselves. ty

>>7739218
Pretty sure its the other way around. ADA is a scam, EOS is the 'ETH killer'...but if we're being real there is no ETH killer. ETH is here to stay.

>>7739207
Get your shitty ideologies out of here, XRB is a shit coin objectively. It does the same thing XRP and XLM do; fast transactions.

>>7739036
Im in a two diffrent shit coins. SHould i take the loss and get out or wait till things move up then get out?

AB, since you're in the finance sector, what do you think of JNT?

Jibrel Network. Tokenizing assets, etc. The market cap of the coin will be equal to the amount of assets tokenized.

>>7739089
you dont seem to like currency cryptos, why? is there one currency crypto you like?

XCM

>>7739036
you dont seem to like currency cryptos, why? is there one currency crypto you like?

>>7736231
I told you niggers that LINK has the potential to jumpstart a cryptopocalypse.

>>7739383

It's not about ideologies you braindead tard. My point is that XRB is a "digital stamp" as much as Bitcoin is. It brings into question Assblasters credibility.

>>7739543
>My point is that XRB is a "digital stamp" as much as Bitcoin is.
oh dear, fresh off the boat from reddit i see?

What do you think about the 8 mil LINK from the dev wallet dumped on binance?

>>7739409
Ab i am also curious what you think of jibrel

>>7739409

Trash, try to exit at a good price since it might still go up but the notion of 'tokenizing' assets reveals a great deal of ignorance regarding effective use cases for cryptographically secured tokens. There is no real utility to using tokens to control an asset vs using bonds or legal instruments, tokenisation works better for data assetisation, like LINK aims to do for API networks.

>>7739425
Because a cryptographic currency is essentially a fiat currency, which is a currency built on trust, the only currency people will ever trust is Bitcoin because ever since Bitcoin hit 1 USD, no one has been able to find a way to distribute a competitor in a trustworthy, safe, and random way. Therefore every currency that will ever launch that is not BTC or a BTC fork is compromised from day 1.
Ripple: centralised printing press, Raiblocks: 'muh captcha!', and so on. Just about any new blockchain that gets minted going forward will be jumped on and dissected by Chinese speculators armed with ASICs and GPU farms trying to get a controlling stake. We as a society really only had ONE shot at a true decentralised fiat currency, and that is bitcoin, blockstream might kill it, but Raiblocks and Ripple are basically just encrypted SMS messages at this point. I.e. DOA.

>>7739584

I'm talking about the technical qualities of XRB. It's not even remotely close to Ripple like Assblaster claims.

If you see a fault in me questioning that, you must be one of those faggots who suck the shit out of every LARPers ass on /biz/

>>7739155
>zt906YHu


Are you saying that hypothetically existing companies ( PayPal) are going to start releasing erc 20 tokens , and put existing crypto competitors (request ) out of business because they have no working product.

Just an example

>>7739637
ok i got it, now it's more clear to me

>>7739444
Honestly it doesn't take a genius to figure out why currency cryptos are not an ideal investment

>the most saturated market in crypto
>arguably the easiest type of crypto to develop
>used as investment vehicles rather than currency
>wide fluctuations in price

No one wants to repeat the bitcoin pizza, which means the only real "currency" cryptos that will succeed and reach mass adoption are stablecoins.

The real money is gen 2 and gen 3 crypto. Specifically investing in protocols that have different value propositions than traditional cryptocurrencies like BTC/LTC etc

>>7739637

ab i love you. truly.

>>7739637

Hmm, so your problem with currency coins is that they're horded by people who now know the value of digital currencies?

Muh captcha was the best way to distribute coins when you look at it from that perspective.

>>7739637
assblaster I just want to thank you for your time. Maybe I won't officially make it with 10k link but I want to say that I unironically love you and appreciate you

>>7739637
Ripple: centralised printing press, Raiblocks: 'muh captcha!', and so on. Just about any new blockchain that gets minted going forward will be jumped on and dissected by Chinese speculators armed with ASICs and GPU farms trying to get a controlling stake. We as a society really only had ONE shot at a true decentralised fiat currency, and that is bitcoin, blockstream might kill it, but Raiblocks and Ripple are basically just encrypted SMS messages at this point. I.e. DOA.

thats damn good.

>>7739743

Best way to distribute coins, bar slowly releasing them over 5 years under the radar. The market cap of BTC didn't even hit 1BN until 2012/2013 (IIRC), you're never going to recreate that perfect storm which is why it's tragic in a way that Satoshi never left behind a resolution around blocksize. But any way you slice it, no coin will ever be trusted like BTC, no coin will ever have had the trial by fire. You see when you look at Raiblocks you look at it like 'hmm well maybe I'll throw in 100k and it'll 5x!' it's an investment, but you gotta think of the endgame, do you ever see someone like Gaddafi entrusting his illicit fortune (200BN according to some estimates) to Raiblocks? It's never gonna happen, and because the endgame can't happen, the well is already poisoned and everyone in the game is always looking for an out. It then becomes a feedback loop of booms and busts, much more so than any tradition asset or even BTC.

>>7739960

Hm, something to think about. Thanks.

>>7739960
I unironically dumped all of my XRB into LINK when you first said it was shit. But then LINK crashed so I lost money either way.

>>7740030
XRB crashed harder in btc value.

Is it true Armbruster is family of yours?

>>7739960
fuck man. I dont even care if youre a larp at this point

>>7739960
>That is why Sergey has been working so hard and communicating so little, there is a very real race against the clock right now, if LINK successfully deploys a fundamentally useable product, it’s not only going to cement itself and increase in price, it is literally going to suck the life and value out of every vapourware ERC20 out there. It is interesting, and surely no coincidence, that the deployment timeline for LINK is right on schedule for the entrance of legacy corporations.


Do you mean that you think Sergey is in a race against time with... someone else? Mobius???

>>7739637
What about xmr?

What do you think about Funfair? Is there a place for gambling tokens in the ethereum ecosystem that you described or is it a meme?

>>7740244

XMR should be treated like a massive decentralised 'tumbler' for bitcoins. It's undervalued as such and has room to grow, but it's basic use case is mostly going to be to 'anonymize' bitcoins from DNMs.

>>7740244
This, following your logic in
>>7739637
BTCP would be more successful than XMR but I just don't see it.

>>7740234

mobius is trash

>>7736231
Thoughts on MAN?

>>7740297

It is a meme, it could be profitable, but long term the sector will most likely be dominated by giant gambling corporations using proprietary software. Ironically I think decentralisation is almost less important for gambling agencies since gamblers are not especially risk averse. In other words your average gambler isn't going to want to make sure that his bets are secured and provably fair. The gambling 'market' is 60 billion USD but it's predominantly driven by the most uneducated type of person you can imagine.

Proprietary software makes more sense from a network congestion/maintenance standpoint as well.

>>7740315

Not all forks are created equal, if bitcoin IS replace it will be with a fork, that doesn't mean Bitcoin God > Litecoin.

>>7740303
Yes interesting, I hadn't thought of it like that but it's obvious. But let me get it straight though. If I sell something & someone gives me btc for it, if I then sell those btc for xmr, then sell that xmr right back to btc, with the right opsec either side, that's enough to tumble my coins?

>>7740387
How many LINK is the individual you say will enter the top 100 soon planning on buying, do you have any idea?

>>7740407

Yes, however we don't know what various exchanges and government stances will be on bitcoin that originates from an anonymous XMR transaction. No one will be able to track the route of your BTC, but exchanges could simply refuse to cash out all anonymous bitcoins. Although this scenario is extremely unlikely and it very much defcon 1.

Assblaster when do we get main net?

How many link to make it ?

>>7740466
Fucking interesting, as that makes monero like a floating asset or currency or whatever - it'll always be useful & have a place but only to wash value through.

>>7739960
Really makes you think

>>7740548
Remember though it’s all about tech. If xmr can reliably offer that tumbling service (just as btc can offer a reliable currency alternative to central bank printed money) then it will always have value. I’m all in LINK right now but definitely plan on rebalancing some into xmr

>>7740455
and do you know for what purpose?

>>7740598

Can't reveal either detail, but it is not an insignificant amount and it will probably be in colf storage for awhile. It is someone in finance buying.

>>7740466
I don't expect you to know for sure - I'm asking what YOU would do - I don't have any LINK but I want some. Is it safe to assume this conference will dump the price because Nazarov won't release any big info?

>>7740376
>MAN
Also curious about this one if you've been following at all. MAN reads like any other AI pipedream shitcoin but for some reason there's been a lot of hype about it.

>>7740671
It has a very legit team with influential people backing it. AI nonsense is what I thought at first too, but now reconsidering after researching. AB bless us with your insights

>>7740641
Thanks for replying. I have been checking the top 100 wallets autistically in case a new one appears.

Did you see the threads about Gitter and Slack members yesterday? Do you think any of the individuals are significant? Like it seems a bit ridiculous that Nike or Adobe would have anything to do with LINK right now. There was a swiss banking/coder consultant faggot, I guess this is more the kind of area you're involved in....

>>7740665

I am not selling, simply because whenever I think I know what's going to happen exactly, the market finds a way to surprise me. I am financial extremely secure so I can afford to wait, hence I can't say what I'd do because I simply take up positions for the long term.

>>7740752
Are you part of the ChainLink team? Prove that you're not. Because the way you talk you remind me of a particular person from there.

>>7740752
At what point will you feel comfortable with increasing your stack beyond what you hold now?

>>7740596
I think that's the point, it's why that Swiss guy called it a god coin. I don't think it will ever die because it's basically a permanent & decentralised bitcoin fog

>>7740785

You can't prove a negative

>>7740800

I have a good stack I won't be buying or selling for awhile. Depends on how the market goes etc. Too many variables to tell you now.

>>7740785
prove god doesnt exist please

>>7740878
Any opinion in wtc / ven?

>>7739207
It is garbage tho. No one really cares about fast transaction speeds for crypto. And if you hold the belief that Crypto will replace fiat in every day-to-day shopping then you are silly.

AB, do you intend to stake your Link, or simply sell when you believe the time is right?

>>7740752
General opinion on NULS and COSS?

I do remember you saying you’ll take profits, but will you keep an amount for staking opportunities? And thanks, you keep this interesting.

>>7740878

Do you have any opinion on whether ChainLINK simplified mainnet will be released before SXSW or after?

Releasing before would really enhance the impact of Sergey's presentation with Tom Gonser but releasing afterward quietly seems more their style.

>>7740878

i remember you were a bit bullish on coins like ven and icx in the past. referring to icx as a potential blue chip. do you still think that?

>>7740641
Thanks as always for sharing your information, larp or not, it's well written and thought out. You provide pretty much the only justifiable reason to visit this website.

>>7741094

This is correct.

>>7741174

This is also a correct.

>>7741030

NULS is ok, there are far better alternatives to COSS if you DYOR.

These threads are way too thought out to be larps. Thanks for these AB i always look forward to them.

What do you think about OMG and the upcoming ZCL fork (BTCP)?

>>7741268
What about MAN? We’re curious.

>>7741394
This

>>7741394

To be honest I don't really know much about the asian markets, I understand these coins can rise very rapidly due to the asian market hype, but I can't confidently speak about them. ICX and VEN I sort of can just through excessive exposure, but then when you stray into NULS and MAN I start to lose confidence in my opinion.

>>7741394
I second this.

>>7741268
thanks for the response AB. did you watch their conference on the 31st? i was pretty dissapointed with it desu and dumped all my icx for ven pretty much immediately afterwards. thinkin bout buyin back in though

>>7741454
Any opinions on INT?

>>7741473
use this one anon

>>7741454
Do you mind if I remind everyone in the thread that you're just a human being like every other anon here. Insider info is appreciated but gullible people are worshiping this assblaster image to a point where you might be actually holding some power to move a low volume coin. I don't think you're a man who'd exploit this tho

>>7736231
>they didn't meet their targets and are hoping it will go down after the conference
Holy shit guys there gonna have to fomo buy high

>>7740671
Research further into the team and you'll get it. Though, I don't know how after reading the whitepaper you would think its like the other AI coins. It's very practically and well designed imo

>>7739036
>infrastructure that understands the origin of value
Bytom comes to mind.

How important are patents to Chainlink’s tech? I see Ari has a few relating to smart contracts.

>>7740922
Did you just get triggered?


>>7740878
I know. I meant like some soft proof. Not hard evidence. For example, I know ChainLinks team is in Dallas right now. Send a pic that has today's day off wherever you are. I know Dallas by heart so I can tell if you're in Dallas or not.

>>7741669
>yfw AssBlaster is Sergey

>>7736628
Ya you would think he would provide some sort of evidence of not larping by now. Like pedo skelly said, if you take the harder of the two paths it's probly because your a larper.. or someth8ng like that

>>7741723
i knew it
blasting that big mac refuse out, it was too obvious from the start

>>7741454
Genuine question. What are your thoughts on waifu pillows?

>>7736231
How do I filter bull poop like this man

>>7736231

again man, thank you for all the information. genuine question, have you considered investing in a lucky crypto lanyard lizard? https://www.etsy.com/listing/551733753/lanyard-lizards?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=crypto%20lizards&ref=sr_gallery-1-1

>>7739036
You argue against any currency that's not bitcoin because bitcoin has the brand name and the expo sure to normies. I agree that raibloicks may not be useful as a worldwide currency but the f act that it's fast and free makes it better for use as a medium of exchange. It works better than litecoin at allowing people to trade between coins cheaply and arbatrage.

>>7742355
Except it doesn't work better than litecoin because the implementation is a hot pile of garbage. If you hold nano, get out. It will get worse from here.

>>7742355

Hey assblaster whatever happened to signal capital, you pathetic larping loser

>>7742253
these are the only things that have saved my gains through the dip

>>7739732
Where'd u get that necklace senpai?

>>7736231
Nice just bought 100k

>>7736613
Sounds very reasonable indeed. I've also put thought into the matter that huge quantities of certain coins such as BTC and ETH are owned by a small majority and for financial insitutions who've been mainly the center for finances this can be quite ''frightening''

>>7742474
Except that you are wrong because it already works. It can't help if the exchanges it's on are crap and fraudulent. The code is being tweaked to fix bugs and make it better. It's only been a few months since the tap was shut off. It needs time to get up to snuff.

he fell asleep guys

>>7742754
Probably lol

arre you coca cola kid?

>>7737497
If you go to the website for the Consensus 2016 Building Blocks Hackathon and scroll through the submitted projects one link will take you here:

https://devpost.com/software/cyber-insurance-smart-contract

One of the links is to the Axa/Sony contract, which has a timestamp from during the hackathon.
There's no proof that Axa and Sony were totally uninvolved but it seems unlikely that Sergey and Steve wouldn't mention that involvement in their project description (it might have helped them win the hackathon!). So they were probably just used to illustrate potential usecases.

>>7742736
Do you think 100% of exchanges having problems with implementation is a good thing? Deluded nannies will be 2018's bagholders, don't come back crying.

>>7742995
It's on binance and mercatox both working fine. Are you surprised a new currency isn't on a lot of exchanges? I fail to see how exchanges will be a problem in a years time especially since the community works hard to get it added to exchanges and are pretty devoted. Decentralized exchanges are coming.

>>7742355
You literally didn't understand his point at all.

>>7742970
How do you explain this:

https://create.smartcontract.com/#/contracts/fa4703cb68e3c152a9f47bafd57fe1fa

This contract is owned by AXA not by SmartContract like the first one from the hackathon. If you're saying that account isn't AXA and it's Sergey, why would a company that large allow him to use their name for some dipshit crypto project?

>>7742970
Cheers

>>7742355
>>7742736
why do you even come here. You clearly belong on reddit

>>7743420
Notice the one from the hackathon was owned by SmartContract and failed. The most recent one was successful and is owned by the AXA account. What about the more likely possibility that the hackathon was used as an example to illustrate potential to AXA and the most recent one was a test done by AXA themselves? This is a testnet after all and that would be the point

>>7740466
But this is precisely why fungibility is nonnegotiable for big money. Russian oligarchs trying to evade sanctions, for example, run the very serious risk that their bitcoins could be blacklisted by all respectable Western companies, becoming effectively worthless. And no one with millions wants their every tx to be tracked, even if they're totally above board, because information is power and you don't give it away to potentially malevolent strangers for free if you can help it. A privacy coin, most likely Monero if it can solve scaling, will replace Bitcoin, it's only a matter of time.

>>7743400
Not that id know but the way the logos look for both those companies doesn't look like some demo shit. & Realistically, no one who is serious is going to use the logos of massive companies like Sony & AXA unofficially

>>7743545
It looks like anyone can sign up on smartcontract.com and create a contract, all you need is a jpeg of those company logos

fuck me I just learned so much from this thread

What does AB/anyone else think of DEX's? 0x, LRC, Kyber, etc.

>>7743637

Not at all, consider that liquidity is the top concern, no privacy/fungibility coin will EVER have enough liquidity to handle big corrupt money, by some estimates Russians have hundreds of billions of dirty money. However they are already using fronts and firms to launder this money in *barely* (key word) legal ways, one of these ways is Art. Art is huge for money laundering, what bitcoin will enough is an additional settlement layer and added liquidity for the entry nodes of these firms.

E.g. Boris buys painting for 50 million via his totally legitimate chum and baron Francis May, (their kids study at Eton together) this takes a long time because the auctions have to be arranged, the painting must be inspected for forgery etc. Instead this private equity firm that used to simply acquire Art for it's collectors will instead hold bitcoins as a more liquid readily available asset. The booking keeping will still show money in, Art out, but in the meantime those bitcoins will act as liquidity whilst still being kosher.

This is one of MANY ways to circumvent sanctions using bitcoin. Another is monero as a tumbling cloud, foreign business as shell companies, etc. Only drug dealers are going to find fungibility a must.

>>7743732
Details. Notice how the AXA handle is the same as the official AXA UK twitter handle. Whereas the one for Sony is a bogus twitter handle. Do you really think for a second that AXA would allow Sergey to involve them without permission?

Yo AB, I'm all in on that ICO you mentioned in the other thread (i was before you posted the thread). Did I fuck myself?

>>7743755

All good, I consider them bluechips, but DEX's have many hurdles to face. Serious investors want not just speed, but Fiat pairings and margin lending, unless serious scalability comes to Ethereum as a whole and these DEXs find way to produce receipts, then traditional exchanges will actually generate more revenue. Given they are regulation friendly and transparent. In fact there's one such exchange I recommend DYOR, it's in ICO phase now but unsold tokens get burned. I don't normally shill coins, but just DYOR.

>>7743929

If you have I am more fucked. I have 30% of all my crypto in it, but honestly spend a day in telegram listening to the CEOs voice messages, and you should feel comfy. But I don't think it will moon as hard as BNB or KCS, because the market is changing, I do think we will profit though.

I enjoyed your update AB. on another note, how are you? Been drinking enough water and taking your multivitamins?

>>7736231
God bless you, AssBlaster. You are the hero /biz/ needs buy doesn’t deserve.

>>7744043
was the ICO something to do with a pile of thick stiff paper?

>>7743890
>no privacy/fungibility coin will EVER have enough liquidity to handle big corrupt money
How can you be so sure? That sounds like something a skeptic might have said about Bitcoin a year ago.
And using a tumblr/exchanging Bitcoin for monero and back again is itself a sign of suspicious activity that money launderers would prefer to avoid. The rest of your post is spot-on, but using a publicly readable ledger is an unnecessary risk, especially as blockchain analysis is only getting more sophisticated.
All Bitcoin can offer currently is liquidity and name-recognition, both of which will come to technologically superior competitors with time.
I appreciate you threads by the way, even if I've been critical in them, because they're miles better than the typical /biz/ narishkeit.

>>7743890
>the painting must be inspected for forgery
The artworld uses POW lol
Not to derail but you don't need bitcoin to launder through art, just overpay at auction and move as much money as you want.

>>7744043
that ico is something like TokenSubway right?

>>7744246
kek

>>7743917
It's not public facing so they can use whatever logos they want. You don't need permission from mcdonalds to use their logo in a university powerpoint

>>7736231
>LINK
oh this is a maymay post nm
carry on anon

>>7744278
Not the logos, the actual handle. That handle name @AXAInsurance is the brand name for their UK twitter account. Sure you could use their logo and they wouldn't care, but they would care if some guy is using their account handle for some shit crypto project they had no interest in. Hence why the Sony one is @SonyCorporation (bogus account) and not @Sony. Also the latest contract is literally titled "AXA Cyber Security Insurance". A company of their magnitude would not just let this fly

>>7736231
>>7736324
Interesting read, thanks. So you say big finance is afraid of me?
t. 12yo snappingturtle wird 64.53MM ETH

>>7744404
Surely this

>>7744278
Also, AXA has already expressed interest in blockchain. They've invested in BlockStream for example

>>7744043
I really like the project but the sheer amount of competition worries me. If it is successful I don't see any reason why it wouldn't moon as hard as bnb or kcs, it offers a much wider set of services and instead of being open to those who already own crypto(small percent of the population) it'll also be open to pretty much the entire population due to fiat deposits.

>>7736613
AB you’ve been drinking again haven’t you

>>7743943
im too dumb ab just shill me

>>7744693
we're still on the dennis system; currently on the "inspire hope" phase. he's telling you this story about eth early adopters to plant the seed that that some day the big jews will view chainlink hoarders through the same beady rat eyeballs.

>>7743929
link to the thread anon?

>>7742501
>no response
Guess the delsuional bagholders and newfags will just ignore the moment when AB outed himself as a larping faggot.

>>7744821
Yea I've noticed a shift from chainlink being secondary to assblaster getting metaphysical about the implications of ethereum, the revelation of which is what this was all leading up to.

>>7744243

Right exactly, bitcoin will simply add liquidity operating as an additional layer. Because finding a buyer or waiting for auction is not time or cost effective. Expect to see private equity firms that handle 'pools' of bitcoin for many clients, some legitimate, some illegitimate, and those private equity firms will have direct dealings with other firms dealing in art etc. So bitcoin will inject some much needed liquidity and mobility into the money laundering business, and there is almost zero chance the government or sanctions will be able to stop it at that level (the 0.01%ers) because they have been unable to so far.

>>7744882

fuck off DYOR. a toddler could google the thread you lazy fucks.

>>7744599
What is it man, don't hold out on biz bros

>>7744043
I think I know the ico, but as an American there's no way for me to participate anyways. Unless the ico you're referring to is US friendly in which case I'd better do some more research.

>>7744231

When I say handle 'big corrupt' money I mean say in the region of say 300-500 billion dirty money from Russia, to handle the liquidity of that much money moving around (they don't want to destabilise the entire network, it needs to remain decentralised) you would need a market cap of approximately 2-3 trillion at a MINIMUM. Monero will never achieve that, or if it did we should all buy going all in since that'd put Monero at 150k+.

>>7743943
assblaster ily

>>7744404
It's possible, since AXA is actually an innovator in this space. Check out Fizzy if you haven't, it's an AXA project that uses smart contracts for flight insurance, and as far as I know it wasn't announced yet when these contracts were deployed on SmartContract.com.
That being said, as the guy who originally uncovered the hackathon thing, it doesn't make sense that they would use AXA's logo for a hackathon if they wanted to keep a real partnership under wraps, and it doesn't make sense that they would neglect to mention such a prestigious partnership if they were trying to win the hackathon.
Also I've uncovered an old powerpoint used by Sergey that included contracts from other big players, including Maersk and Macy's (pic related). When I checked the contract address he had changed the names to generic ones, like "Global Supplier" and "Large Buyer, Inc." I think he just got in the habit of using real companies as placeholders, not realizing autists on the internet would uncover them and read so much into it.

So institutional-level money are starting to be admitted into exchanges. More secure, regulation-friendly exchanges (such as the one you alluded to) are coming online soon to help facilitate this. It would follow that they would begin to buy in at as low a price point as possible. Is it reasonable to expect another (final) dip in BTC/ETH as per the meme chart/return to mean?

>>7745096
that's extremely plausible. Too bad, the only other real reason to think they had anything to do with axa was "insiders," though fizzy is on ethereum so chainlink could be an option

>>7745145

It would not be unreasonable, if I were to use an analogy then imagine a hostage hand off, the exchanges are handing off BTC for a suitcase full of money, and the institutions are about to make her their slave. During this very high tensity situation it could very well happen that bullets start flying and she gets injured, but they definitely won't let her die.

I'm going to actually stop drinking now haha.

>>7743943
XLM??????????????????

>>7744882
bace.io
i think

>>7745187
Thanks AB, really appreciate your time.

Quick thoughts on QASH and the World Book? They were the first exchange that came to my mind last thread but they're not European.

>>7744904
AB what are your thoughts on our boy Sminem?
Can I get a quick run down for AB

>>7736231
if you had all the inside knowledge , why won't you use it for your own gain ? why would you risk it to share it with a bunch of autists ?

>>7737422
This makes me sad, but it’s probably true.

hey AB you didn't get a chance to answer this last thread
are linkies going to fuck this over by doxxing and harassing potential link partners at IBM, swift, etc?

>>7745316
he is. hes buying link

>>7745316
this is how humanity works. some people pay it forward anon.
also, if he has a horde of true believers also buying under him, the network only gains value.

>>7745327

Yeah man biz is going to doxx IBM and SWIFT. Might as well just sell now.

>>7744809
It's CoinMetro. They're looking to be the next Coinbase, with crypto ETFs, and they have the chops to pull it off (they also operate an established Forex market).

>>7745363
someones been missing the multiple threads of people raiding chainlink fund and linkedin to harass everyone potentially involved with link

>>7745272

>10% to 'angel investors'

Pure cancer. Not to mention a very sketchy roadmap:

Q2-Q4:
Beta version of the exchange online (Q2)
BACE tokens are tradeable (Q2)
The Final version of the exchange is online
International banking partnerships
First ICO's listed on BACE

So the formatting isn't very professional, grouping Q2-Q4 in a roadmap makes it seem vague, that's a huge window. What international bank partnerships? Sounds like an easy promise to back out of, and First ICO's listed, don't estimate WHEN an ICO will be listed if you don't have one in mind. Simply state when the platform launches.

Bace is a joke, do better research, even the little things I pointed out can spell trouble for an ICO.

>>7745096
Totally possible, I'm not delusional. But if he changes the old placeholders, why did he not change the AXA one? Especially since the most recent contract was from December 31, 2017?

>>7745415
The ico has ended recently and the tokens aren't on exchanges right

>>7737600
Ripple and Chainlink do two completely different things. Don't see how they're related.
>>7745415
What's your opinion on the interledger project?

>>7745462

Because, the implication I believe, is that AXA is legitimate and the other ones were placeholders.

>>7745478

Hasn't started yet. No more questions about this new exchange, you should decide to buy it because you like it, not because I shilled it. Read the team and the WP.

>>7736231
AB, if you are still here, you just got blasted on JNT.

>>7745415
i guess im actually retarded because everything ive searched yields no results. sorry i failed u ab at least i have 5k linkies

>>7745462
also Sergey often gives the flight delays as one of the use cases for smart contracts

>>7745498

A protocol is not an exchange, from my understand interledger is almost as ambitious as LN, since it wants to be able to allow for interchain transactions. It will be interesting if it works out but it doesn't really affect any of the aspects of blockchain I'm particularly interested in.

>>7745540
>>7745394
>>7744599
there u go anon

>>7745508

admiral blaster nobody thinks you are a shill, you just valuable insight that gives context to a lot of things you are having us research. bless u either way

>>7745531
It's down 15% in sats since this thread started, additionally I never said it'd go down in price, only delusional liars claim to predict price movements over short timeframes without direct inside knowledge. Either way it's trash and will go down eventually.

>>7745462
I'm guessing he figured it was too late, since the AXA contracts had already been discovered and publicized. Although I don't know why he wouldn't clear up any confusion publicly. He probably wanted to prevent more rumors around a Maersk partnership from starting.
To be clear, I'm not FUDing. Link is my second largest hold. But from my research most of the partnership rumors are overblown, with the most promising possible exception being DocuSign. There's more than meets the eye there, but I'm still in the midst of my investigation so I don't have anything solid to reveal yet.

>>7745579

i figured it wasnt xcm cuz he said he has 30% of his stack in it and the ico hasnt started yet. maybe yet again im just a retard idk. either way bless u too

>>7745794
I also noticed this anon. Unless there was a private presale. It's the main (I'm guessing public) token sale that's not started yet. Xcm looks like the one

>>7745658
How can i get a hold of you on discord?

>>7745893
lol dont even try

>>7745869
there were presales and flash sales for xcm so it's probably the one

>>7745933
I am doing him a favor.

>>7745980

Send me whatever discord link you have here: a7d8bt+1uj02miq3tozw@sharklasers.com

I'm actually curious to see what an 'almighty' group you have, full of finance 'insiders' like me.

>>7745938

I would never endorse a coin that had a private sale, flash sales on the other hand, would be totally kosher.

>>7745869
ya i checked im a retard, they had a pre token sale dec 21st to jan 21st

>>7745564
The interledger is project is more ambitious. LN is a system that increases btc transaction speeds. Interledger is intended to connect nodes of all payment types i.e. bank to crypto, crypto to crypto, bank to bank, using the underlying ledger. Pretty much creating a massive transaction extranet. Nodes would act like traditional hosting servers and would allow those that host the node to get paid out in their currency of choice. I honestly believe that's what we'll use in the future if they can actually pull it off, it's just that one dev worked for ripple, the other created a system that had serious security flaws

>>7745508
>Because, the implication I believe, is that AXA is legitimate and the other ones were placeholders.

Yup. Exactly the point I was making to the other anon. Obviously speculative, but it seems strange that they were all changed yet this one remains.

>>7746076

Right I'm comparing it to LN not in the size of its scope, but in the likelihood of it realising it's ambitions, i.e. very little to none.

>>7746123
What're your thoughts on Dennis possibly leaving Always Sunny for A.P. bio

>>7746076
To clarify, LN doesn't actually increase tx speeds, its to be used to create payment channels to decongest the network

>>7745938
>>7745869
He's not denying it outright.

check >>7745415
for when I mentioned bace

Regardless if it's the one he is talking about coinmetro sounds dope as fuck. I might grab some coins.

>>7746123
Thoughts on NAS? Seems like could be a legit contender in dApp platforms and different enough from ETH that they could coexist (NEO and others too similar IMO). Only problem is they are relying on LN for scalability which makes me hesitant

>>7746123
do you think link will ever reach the memed 1k price? lol

>>7739960
>Gaddafi
Boy do i have news for you

capping off an epic thred

>>7746123
are you more for bigger blocks in the btc debate then?