/biz/ - Business & Finance

Use a used Zebra 450 myself off eBay, no complaints yet.

Also make sure you're not paying for those labels, can always order them for free off those shipping sites.

>>766038
Is used a good idea? How many labels does a print head last for?

Also what shipping sites?

I have a Dymo 4XL LabelWriter. Best investment hands down. Keeps its value and have never had any issues with it.

>>766239
Doesn't Dymo have label DRM?

>>766256

Fuck is that

Up to 15 labels a day? Stick with a laser printer and sticky labels, or ink jet if that's what you have.

Upgrade when you have more volume.

>>766256
Yes it does.

I have a Zebra 450 and it's a pain in the ass to use. It's actually meant to work with UPS software, so it's not explicitly supported by eBay.

However, you can get it to work by setting your printing preferences in eBay to a similar 4x6 zebra printer. Still though you will run into issues with the browser wanting to dither the printed image. I work around this by saving the labels to PDF and printing them with Adobe Reader.

TL:DR, buy a different printer if you need one. One that's explicitly compatible with eBay.

>>766265
Basically you can't use 3rd party labels, only Dymo brand, which have codes which allow them to print.

>>766789

Really? It seems to be rated well. What's your recommendation?

>>765928
>What label printer is guud?

A pack of Avery sheets and an inkjet.

>>765928

What kind shit do you asshole sell?

Homemade or resellers?

I am not familiar with the Zebra 450. Is it a more modern version of the LP2844?

Anyways, I have used both the Zebra LP2844 and the Stamps.com Pro Label Plus and both are decent.

The Stamps.com Pro Label Plus printer is literally plug-and-play. It requires zero configuration and sets up flawlessly on any machine. They don't fuck you with proprietary paper or any of that shit. It's an amazing value buy. My only complaint is that loading the paper is very ass backwards.

I actually like the Zebra LP2844 more than the Pro Label Plus; however, it's fucking IMPOSSIBLE to configure on any machine that isn't windows XP. Mother fucking UPS had to come out with their own drivers because Zebra was too fucking lazy to fix the bullshit. It's an amazing printer if you get it working, the paper loading is easy and intuitive, and it prints for years without any problems. Like I said though, it's a bitch to configure

TL;DR - go with the Stamps.com Pro Label Plus. They are both in the roughly same price range

>>766871
I resell, mostly used items, along with some new things.


>>766925

Great, thanks for the advice.

>>766972
How much do price stuff for profit with eBay, Paypal commission and all that.

I've got a thrift store near me that sells $3-5 used clothes.

>>766925
stamps.com is utter shit.

>pay me a monthly fee to print stamps at no discount
>preload money into the account to buy postage


>>766981
Basically you lose ~14% of your sale price to fees. Shipping not included.

Don't bother unless it's high buck clothes.

Did you see the new USPS rate increase?

Priority Mail – no changes
Priority Mail Express – no changes
First Class Packages – +5.1%
Parcel Select – +8.0%
Media Mail – +2.3%
First Class Package International – +7.2%
Priority Mail International – +6.8%
Priority Mail Express International – +6.7%

I still use a Brother laser printer I got at a flea market for $2 a few years ago.

It works just fine. I might look into streamlining things later but it's not an issue right now.

>>767038

What the fuck? I don't give a shit about the Parcel or Media mail but 5% on the goddamn first class? That's bullshit.

When I first started selling, I could get a tracking number printed online label first class three ounces for $1.22 I think. It's $1.93 now

>>766860
Like whoever said a Zebra LP2844 is the tried and true printer for eBay purposes.

Also, just create a UPS account and get some free labels to get started. They will send you sheets of labels that you can use in any printer (like the Avery ones) to your door for free. The will also send you all kinds of 4x6 labels too if you go down the zebra route.

What are the viable items to sell rn? Are you guys getting your stuff from the chinks at alibaba?

>>766981

It depends, I probably make 80-85%, though my business partner gets 50% of most sales I make.

>>767256
Wait what's the difference between the LP 2844, AND LP 2844 Plus?

Also I see it only takes like 2.2" wide labels? Is that wide enough to use for eBay USPS shipping???


>>767262

Basically anything... You've just gotta find the stuff, and then see if it's selling.

I used to raid the donation bins in ritzy areas at night and found some super nice shit

I also used to snatch up penny guides and trade them to book stores for hundreds in store credit.

Now I have a stockpile of Adderall but no one has any fucking money for it.

>>767298
Whatever just going to buy a LP 2844 used on eBay, looks like it comes with a 4x6 roll, so it obviously uses them.
>tfw your total listed amount exceeds $10,000.

mfw

>mfw shipping costs

>>765928

I have a ton of Magic The Gathering Card very rare ancient cards. Should I put them on Ebay? I am way too lazy to take pictures of them all though.

>>767807
I'm about to do the same thing as you, anon.

use a scanner instead of a camera, you can do ~7 at a time with higher quality

Please don't get a Zebra. They SUCK. Epson or DYMO all the way

Fuck zebra. I've had two at different times and both just stopped working with my computer at one point and I could never figure out how to get them to work again. And I'm not a retard who doesn't know how to install drivers or whatever, they just wouldn't print anything anymore.

>>765928
unless your labels must have bar codes on them, aren't you better off saving yourself $1,000 and doing the extra work writing them by hand?

>>767799

I gave up selling 5-10 dollars items a dogs age ago, after shipping and ebay + paypal dual raping you're lucky to be left with $.50.

It's $19.99 or bust and the item has to fit in a flat rate mailer or it's into the trash it goes.

I'm looking into selling some items on eBay in the $50-75 range.

Are the fees and shipping going to eat me alive? What are the advantages of labeling as opposed to going through the post office?

>work as software developer for 3rd party ebay tool for the last few years
>sometimes work customers who move millions of dollars of shit in a month
As someone who's never sold dick on eBay that shit still blows me away. How do people move that much shit through eBay alone?

Can you change your starting bid price even though the action only has 9h left?

I have 2 watchers, and none of them bid. I want to bump it up a hundred dollars, since shipping is gonna fuck me.

Can I do this?

>>767356
>I used to raid the donation bins in ritzy areas at night and found some super nice shit
Dick move

>I also used to snatch up penny guides and trade them to book stores for hundreds in store credit.
Smart move

>Now I have a stockpile of Adderall but no one has any fucking money for it.
Sell online

>>768347
All shipping labels have barcodes. We're not sending postcards

>>768377
First Class Package for anything 13 ozs or lighter. Also if you really ship a lot, you can qualify for commercial plus with USPS which allows you to send packages up to 16 ozs with first class mail. Cost is $4.05.

>>768392
Figure 14% of total sale price lost to fees. Printing labels saves you assloads of time. I recall once, years ago, going to the post office during Christmas season and getting stuck being people who needed passports. I had a critical package to send out. I was in live for 2 hours. If you print the label out, you can drop it off at the post office (many have a drop off point so you don't have to wait in line) or if if it fits, you can throw it in one of the blue drop boxes. It also saves money. You can get pretty decent savings on shipping by printing online. It also automatically inputs your tracking number if you buy through ebay.

>>769019
End you auction. Or man up and take the hit. First rule of auction sales are make the minimum bid the lowest amount you can live with.

>>769052
I think ill take the hit; and I'll take my chances hoping that the two watchers will obviously have to bid against one another so the pric might not be too bad.

But this is assuming both watchers still want the item.

>>769052
>Printing labels saves you assloads of time.

THIS

Printing my own labels means I can just pack up my orders in the evening and then just drop them off on the way to the day job, without having to spend hours in line every day after work or during lunch to get the exact same thing.

How do sellers get good deals on shipping? I see some people offering free international shipping and still being able to sell for competitive prices? How can they afford to do that?

>>769052
First Class Package for anything 13 ozs or lighter. Also if you really ship a lot, you can qualify for commercial plus with USPS which allows you to send packages up to 16 ozs with first class mail. Cost is $4.05.


Wat? I have Commercial Plus pricing through eBay, and eBay won't let me exceed 13oz for First Class.

>>769254
Yeah, eBay doesn't have it for some reason. I think even Etsy offers it. Use a 3rd party shipping platform to take advantage.

While reading this thread got an email stating that my item on ebay sold.

This is my first ebay sale. Honestly didnt think the item would sell. Now i gotta figure out how to ship it without getting raped on costs.

>>769390
this is something you should have figured out before you posted it. How big is the item? How much does it weigh?

>>769315
I do get commercial base discounts from eBay, and now I get commercial plus, I just can't ship first class above 13 oz. Weird to think that Etzy would offer it...
>>769390


You should always calculate shipping before listing an item. Get a tape measure, and buy a cheap scale. This is what I have, it kicks ass.


http://www.amazon.com/Weighmax-2822-75LB-shipping-Battery-Included/dp/B002U4OEDS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1432859577&sr=8-3&keywords=shipping+scale

>>769456
>>769460

Oh, i guess i phrased that wrong. I've shipped tons of shit at a previous job. I meant that i was going to shop around fedex and ups to see which is better price, or if i save any money by shipping through paypal (do you save money shipping through paypal?)

protip: UPS doesn't weigh packages unless they're over like 20lb. I've shipped things as 2lb, when in reality they weighed closer to 5lb. Its pretty cheap to do that but you take what you can get.

>>766038
>those shipping sites
Which ones? Thanks in advance

>>769547

Probably UPS/FEDEX. I don't think getting an account from them will get you free stuff though, but who knows.
>Order more bubble mailer #0's from Amazon.
>Select Prime 2 day shipping.
>Will take 4 days, wat.
>Email Amazon customer service.
>Blah blah not in stock, but you could've paid for 2 day anyway, even though it's called overnight, and 2 day is 4 day.
>wat
>Says they'll upgrade to real 2 day for free.
>Charges card $8.99
>Bank charges $4 because I didn't have enough in account.
>Email Amazon top best indian support machine again.


FUCKING INDIANS

Will update with what happens. Also started a BBB case, as I never consented to my card being billed a 2nd time.

>>769547
>>766232

Sorry for the late response.

I'm using a Zebra 450 which takes 6.25x4 labels, you can just google "ups free shipping labels" and the rest should be self explanatory.

Thermal printers are a god send I'll say that much, free labels and no ink, just the initial payment.

>>769724

>tfw Amazon gave refund for charge, and $4 in bank fees.


>>769730

Cool, thanks!

>>766871
dont expect any kind of help with this attitude you little shit, your mom shouldve aborted you !

What do you guys sell?
Like chinese stuff that you get from alibaba or something? Do you guy stuff from ebay and then resell it on ebay?

I was wondering if I could start from scratch. Maybe buy something for $10 and make $10 reselling it. I don't have much startup money. And therefore don't really have much room for failure.

>>769778
>>769778
I have suppliers that I'm able to buy cheap and I mean really really cheap as in literally cents and sell it for approximately 200% up to 500% profit (depends) No I wont tell you how I'm a greedy jew :P

>>769782
Do they allow you to buy as cheap as you want though?
I mean, it doesn't matter too much to me how cheap it is if they only sell it to you if you're buying $100 worth. What I'm asking is, is there a minimum?

I already figured you wouldn't tell me what it is you're buying and selling.

>>769785
>$100 worth

Kek, bud my last purchase came out to $16,000 including shipping.

>>769788
I can't do that.

>>769789
then GTFO , this is the big boys league , go back to school punk!

>>769790
you're not helping anyone with that. Go shitpost somewhere else.

>>769778
>>769785
>>769789
I started around 3 months ago with a total savings of 1.400€. I am a student and I didn't have a job, just some savings from messing around. I spent slightly less than a month doing thorough research on this biz, product research, what sells, what doesn't, for how much I can get it and what is my benefit margin at avg price, and made every single calculation and planned every bump on the way that I could think of before I even placed my first order.

Then I made a sample order of some of the products I had researched, investing no more than $400.

This last month I made over $10k in revenue, out of which approximately 50% are profit, and half of the month I was out of stock because my supplier messed up with an order.

Just stop looking for someone to hand you the secret to make money out of this. If you want to start profiting out of this, you'll have to educate yourself, do your homework and take some risks. Don't expect anyone to tell you "here sell this for X amount and don't worry it's definitely going to sell".

The best thing about this is that, once you've learned the basics, you can do it wherever you go, so you can "carry" your income with you wherever you go. Also, spotting good products, listing your items properly and dealing with suppliers only gets easier, so start working hard today and I promise you it will compensate.

Protip: there are many forums about this subject with way more helpful people in them.

Good luck, anon!

>>769795
>slightly less than two* months

Brotip: Set up a UPS business account. Order half sheet sticky labels and bubble mailers. You can print on them with a regular inkjet printer and not have to worry about taping that shit on. The bubble mailers make great free padding, or you can ship in them. All of their free shipping supplies are meant for their express service, so if you ship UPS with them sometimes they make a stink about it. You can also order free boxes but they're all skinny and tall boxes, cereal box style, so I don't find them useful for my products.

Common-sense-tip: Go to USPS.com and order free priority mail shipping supplies. They give you free priority supplies. DO NOT ABUSE THEM, it is mail fraud. I recommend flat rate boxes, flat rate bubble mailers, and priority mail tyvek mailers. The bubble mailers are flexible unlike the legal mailers. The tyvek mailers go by priority weight but are basically indestructible.

The issue I find with ebay is china is now selling direct to consumers.

It's impossible to compete with obvious stuff, so you are looking for niche things that are specific to your market.

So far all i managed was one female clothing item, really struggling to find more product ideas.

Not really /biz/, but does anyone know why Ebay isn't showing me the shipping costs in the listings any more? I now have to click on the ad to see how much postage prices. It's a pain in the ass.

So I started ebay mini game back in March, I'm up by £500 in sales... Everything's going as expect then paypal slap a "yeah we gonna be holding on to your money for a month" bullshit... Fuck is this?

How do they expect me to ship stuff off whilst holding funds? Geniuses!

>>769778
If you want to start with a limited bankroll, then the thrift shop/estate sale/garage sale routine can work. It's a bit of a grind most of the time but every once in a while you'll come across a sale with a bunch of great stuff at great prices. Here are some general tips to get started:
-Start by just going to the local sales near you on Saturdays. Hit up Craigslist or Kijiji or whatever free online classified site people use in your area, and make an itinerary.
-The goal at this point is to get a feel of what the local sales are like, so don't skip over neighborhoods if they're poor or a little ghetto.
-Hit up thrift stores during the week. Find out when they put new items on the floor, and go as soon after that as possible. Figure out which stores have good prices and good selections.
-Specialize in one niche, particularly when you're just starting. Glassware, sports apparel, woolens, jewelry, porcelain, coins, textbooks, tools, postcards, spray paint, diapers, whatever.
- Get to know that market inside out. Research on collectors' forums, eBay completed listings, books, etc. Stay up on trends in that market. If fakes or counterfeits are an issue, learn how to identify them out in the field.
-Only buy things you know you can make a GOOD profit on. If something sells on eBay for $50, don't buy it for $30. Depending on what it is, even $10 might be too much.
-Slowly start branching out. If something catches your eye, but you don't know what it is or how much it sells for, take a picture or write down a description and research it later. Always be learning.
-Don't be afraid to gamble small.
-Don't trust sellers. They may swear to the baby Jesus that those tea spoons are sterling silver, but you saw that they're marked EPNS and saved yourself a bad purchase.
-Haggle everything. Ask for a discount on the total if you buy multiple items.

>>767799

Those are the margin killers for me on smaller items.

How long is the wait for the 'pending funds', if my buyer received his package this afternoon?

>>770059
Should be immediate if the buyer paid with PayPal, unless you're still in the new seller probationary period like >>769857

>>770066
Yeah, this is my first selling on ebay. They're telling me a little over a week, but I read somewhere that it might be a couple days.

idfk

>>770072
Been a while since I had to go through it, but about a week sounds right.

How do you guys actually make money from ebay? Half the shit I see on alibaba is already being sold by someone in my country or by someone in china at very low prices

>>770072
>>770095
Heh I wish.

New seller and international shipping, it takes 21 days for new seller like me to receive the money.

minus the listing fee
minus the paypal fee
minus the currency conversion fee

20 listings a month (thanks god it was actually increased to 60 or so after my first sell)

And I cant even set the correct domestic shipping because I am not from the US (and my shitty country doesnt have the regional version like france/uk) ( I registered at ebay.com, now I am wondering if I should have registered at www.ebay.co.uk)
I cant set the correct shipping price because some items like cassetttes have fixed top at around 3 bucks for shipping (which is obviously low if I am sending from EU)

I can´t imagine more problematic service for a new seller

>>770123
Ughhhh that sucks.

Good thing I'm applying for work.

>>769200

china

>Buyer sends message to my eBay account, asking if I'll take certain amount for item.
>Doesn't say what item they're asking about.

FUUUUUUCKKKK

>>765928
How do you naeggers deal with the 10% final value fee + 4% gaypal fee jesus fucking christ it's a robbery over here

>>770208

Find items with large enough margins.

The fees basically pay for the access to a very large market of buyers.

You need to get top of the listings by being an established seller - from there you can charge more and thus increase your margins.

I highly suggest offering 14 day no hassle returns and free shipping as those give you higher positions in listings.

For returns I'd suggest offering a restocking fee for returns however this may encourage people to open up cases saying the item doesn't work instead of doing a simple return which can ding your account.

For free shipping I'd suggest pricing in the shipping into your item.

There are some cases where not having free shipping is better. When I sell clothing and do auctions I want the starting price to appear as low as possible. Thus instead of doing 11.29 + free shipping I'll do 4.95 with 5-6 shipping.

>>765928
Scanning through my paypal account, it looks like a full half of my ebay income (not even profit, since this doesn't account for postage and packing) is being eaten by ebay fees.

Is this normal? How the fuck does anybody bar ebay turn a profit in this shitty arrangement? Am I fucking myself over relisting unpopular items, or something? Ebay's fee system is really opaque.

>>770306
Are you using premium listing tools? Are you listing in multiple categories? Are you listing in the categories that come with higher fees attached? Are you canceling auctions after they have bids? Are you selling on international sites (i.e. you're registered to ebay.com but listing on ebay.co.uk)? Are you listing above your free listing limit? Are you using reserve prices? Are you using 1 day or 3 day auctions?

>>770325
No to almost all of the above.

I usually use just the 20 free listings/scheduled listings every month. Occasionally there's a 100 listings offer which I take.

I don't use second categories, supersize pictures, subtitles, premium themes, etc.

Most auctions I make international through the Global Shipping Program.

My typical listing is a 99p start, no reserve price, no Buy It Now, on a 7 or 10-day duration. Usually fairly low-value items like old video games, DVDs, used clothes, etc.

And yet, in a month where I make, say £30 in earnings, ebay fees are around £15. When you factor in postage, packing, and the time spent listing, packing, and walking to the post office, it would be only slightly less profitable to throw the cunting things out of my window. Is this typical?

>>770659
>Global Shipping Program
This might be it, especially if a large amount of your buyers are foreign. Paypal also hits you up for an extra 4% or so when the payment is made in a foreign currency.

>>769782
Pish posh. I but some products for 1.20€ inc. shipping and sell then for 16.95€

I bought this year 18,000 pcs.

>>770059
>>770072
>>770123
If you purchase the postage labels through eBay, the item gets marked as dispatched as soon as you do it. If you mark your items as dispatched, you should have your funds available in about 7 days from when the item is supposed to get to the buyer. If you use a tracked service and add a tracking number to the order, it'll be 3 days. If you do none of these, it'll be 21 days.

I know it's a pain in the ass in the beginning, but it's fair. What if a scumbag started selling on eBay and he ripped off everyone with his fake shit or sent you a fucking whistle when you've bought a lamp? PayPal has to make sure that you're not a fucking retard by taking some extra security measures in the beginning. If you scam someone, PayPal will freely send them back their money instead of letting you run away with it. It seems fair to me. A pain, but fair.

When you start having constant sales, and by a rule I have not yet figured out (but I guess feedback counts), you'll start getting your money available immediately even if you haven't been selling for 90 days yet.

>>770208
>>770306
>>770659
Sorry to say this, but that's your problem. You should account for all those expenses in your calculations, and if you don't you're just gonna get screwed, and you deserve it. This is biz, you can't just put up a price that you randomly make up because it appeals to you and then cry over how you didn't make any profit due to fees and shipping.

Fees are high, but you're paying to be exposed to millions of buyers instantly. Go ahead and make your own webpage, see how expensive it is and how long it takes to successfully drive traffic into it.

Ebay fees are a load of shite. My local site charges 3 quid max for sales

>>770898

>your local site

And there's your answer.

Because who needs a potential audience of hundreds of millions of active buyers, with free promotion and advertising on tens of thousands of websites and social media platforms?

>>770905

I know I understand why Ebay has its advantages but I still think the fees are way too high especially for domestic sales.

I only sell domestically at the moment anyway so I use the other site

Not expecting any easy answers here but can anyone help with a methodology for finding things to sell.

Like at the moment I'm just shooting in the dark.

>>770905
Time to make a new auction site with less bullshit feature for sellers that drops final value fees and also don't penalize sellers against dishonest buyers.

iauction.pdf.org.ftp here i cum

Does anyone know of an alternative to Stamps.com? I really like the convenience of it, but I'm not a huge fan of the $15.99/month charge. I would use the built in shipping tool Ebay has, as I only am shipping 5-6 items a week currently, but my laptop (which is connected to my wifi connected printer) shuts down and gives me a blue screen if I attempt to go on Ebay. I've looked into the problem and I can't figure it out. Once I get sales up a bit I'll go back to Stamps.com probably but for now it's eating a little bit too much of my profits.

>>771237
Have you tried pic related?
>tfw reaching PayPal monthly withdrawal limits.

>>771171
I'm still a noob too, so feel free to ignore my advice.
It's my first time using ebay ever, I started 2 months ago, so I've been selling shit i had laying around at home. Old video games, books, computer parts, then i started selling other random (cheap) crap, like pens, shuttlecocks, etc. I found out this way that selling used video games is totally not worth it, unless you operate one of those scam websites where you buy used video games from people for 1 dollar, and then resell them for 30 (gamestop does this too).
If i had a big budget, i would just buy a bunch of test products and see how well they sell. but sadly i'm too poor (well im not poor at all, but my girlfriend takes most my money).

start with products that you are interested in yourself. recently i bought a used phone, used it for a while, then re-sold it for a total profit of 10 bucks. it's not much, but then again i got to test out a neat phone and even got money from it. so if you pick something you like, you can get some fun out of it even if it doesnt sell well

>>769795
what forums do you recommend, anon?

I'm looking into starting reselling, too.

>Need to lift PayPal withdrawal limits.
>Need to provide more info to PayPal.
>Uploading pics of info takes an eternity and site usually just crashes.

wat

>>767147
Gas prices went down but shipping went up.

>>770718
>Sorry to say this, but that's your problem. You should account for all those expenses in your calculations, and if you don't you're just gonna get screwed, and you deserve it.

I get that I have to include the extra charges in my calculations. My question is, where the fuck are these hidden charges coming from and how can I avoid them? Far as I can see my listing fees ought to be nil as I use the default free option, and my seller's fees should be the 10% ebay takes. My actual outgoings are more like 50%. What the fuck gives?

>>769782
I have a good inkling of what products I'd like to sell, but finding a supplier is my only issue.

glad you're doing well, anon.

>>769936

This is my business.

My average profit per item is around $10. This includes small items and also big ticket deals. I found something saturday for $20 that I'll probably get $800 for. Just one of those few times a year ordeals where someone has something they don't know they have. In this case it's a piece of vintage medical equipment, but not vintage enough to not be usable.

>>770116

I don't use them chink fucks. I get shit from a few military surplus sites, some shit I buy off gunbroker and resell on eBay (parts kits mostly), and other things I find at estate sales and public auctions and flea markets and yard sales

>>771492
>but my girlfriend takes most my money
So why haven't you dumped this financial burden?

>>765928
New listing fees are a "slight of hand" violation of Consumer Protection Laws to milk additional "fees" cloaked as Consumer Benefits.

Ebay is scamming you (i.e., "[We] 'may' charge you a fee" click here,,, here... here... read fine print... Click again.. Read some more... Re-read USER-AGREEMENT details)" *and consumers may find out that E-Bay is nickel and dime-ing you **IF you navigate ALL of the fine print**

When buying items from Ebay, MANY CUSTOMERS filter the results. I happen to filter auctions to "Ending Soonest" to find deals that may have been overlooked. Using that same logic, when listing an item to sell... ONE WOULD ASSUME, that the higher frequency of "Ending Soon" (i.e., <5 day auctions) may be tactically beneficial to some sellers.

The ambiguous "new seller listing fees" are outrageously unfair to those who provide the very funding that makes the INC. viable from hard working Americans (and in EBay's & PayPal's case... Internationals).

EBay Customer Support Supervisor for EBay) stated "the new fees are to benefit the [buyers/sellers] using Ebay so they can better locate items they intend to buy".

(Q): When were these changes announced?
(A): An email was sent 90[ish] days ago.

Abbvn: Any posting listed for a short duration (i.e., less than 5 days) is subject to a $1.00 USD surcharge regardless of a sale.
Auto-Relist up to 2 times? ... Sure.. WHY NOT?
If your $3 USD item doesn't sell you now owe E-Bay $3 USD!
Ex:
Past 31 Days Sales: ~$265.00 USD
MAY 2015 EBay Invoice = >$65.00 + % of sales for EBay & PayPal

% Fee for Services: >25%

Hmm,
Excessive, Ambiguous, and unfair seller listing fees... "You may be subject to.. Click-Navigate--get law degree-- Navigate more... Click on one of numerous links" etc.

Forced Binding Arbitration: EBay is evading responsibilities to consumer protection (unilaterally) with these new "regulations".

See:
https://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html#17

>>769788
>my dik is HUGE

FAGGOT

>>772539
Finding suppliers is pretty easy bro. Google will tell you almost everything you need. Alibaba and ThomasNet.

>>773190
I've never heard of ThomasNet, can you elaborate?

I was considering alibaba, but I did some research and read that the majority of the "suppliers" aren't manufacturers, so I'd miss out on even lower prices. Can you confirm?

>>769808
Many don't want to wait a month for Chinese shipping, so you can still get sales if you are US based for the same item at a slightly higher price. (maybe 10-15% higher but no more)

>>770116
Yeah, ebay's traffic growth has actually been negative. If you think you will list 100 items and have any sort of reliable income that's not going to happen. You'd need to have something like 1000 items to be making actual money. And your item prices better be close to the Chinamen's unless you sell high end shit they can't copy.

>>769808
Waist trainers/shape wear are good.

>>770208
The amazon fees are just as hebrew as e-bay.

Only way around it is to build your own store, or maybe something like shopify or e-crater where it is around 3%.

>>772594
What's your workflow like? Do you ever have trouble actually getting around to listing things? That's my biggest problem at the moment, getting over the anxiety.

>>773213
ThomasNet is basically a website that lets you look up manufactures. For instance, I needed to find a place to sell me bulk polypropylene sheeting for a project I was doing. I looked it up, found a plastic manufacturer that was within 50 miles of me, and talked to them about getting half a ton of plastic.

The issue with it is, if you're looking to sell an item and want to invest $50-500, there is a good chance they will ignore you, say no, or refer you to a reseller. The other issue is that unlike China, they won't make you a knockoff item because they can and will be sued if they do.

So basically the only market really available to you there is custom made products (which they will probably demand a decent sized order) or an untapped market (good luck finding one).

A lot of the people on alibaba are Chinese resellers. I've contacted a handful of companies about a product before and gotten back price quotes across the board. The cheapest one is usually the manufacturer. You can also do a little research on the companies to see which are legit. Google them (note that Chinese websites for legit places often look like 1996) and use google earth to look at their address. Is it a small office building in a residential area? Is it a 14 acre factory?

>>773234

I used to because I have a bad procrastination habit. I just developed a system. Let's take a Saturday, which is a combination of yard sale/estate/flea market/thrift store.

>whenever an item is purchased, log the purchase (item, price) in the vehicle on pen and paper
>When I get home, price/item/description are entered into an excel spreadsheet
>I unload everything and take it upstairs to my attic/workshop.
>Everything is sorted through and if I say, bought a box lot, trash/scrap/localsale/onlinesale is sorted into those categories
>everything going for online sale is photographed and tested immediately
>items are then put onto organized shelves in their proper spots
>at night time, I put everything from the day that's ready to go on eBay

I just power through it, get everything listed and call it a day. I have eBay listing templates saved in word and I use the principle behind form letters to fill out unique descriptions for each item. Pretty much read this:

http://www.internet4classrooms.com/msword_formletter_07.htm

But instead of mailing lists, we are doing items.

This way, when I get to the actual listing, it's just uploading pictures and copy and pasting text. I have some general templates that cover items sold as-is, items with return policies, etc.

Rambling aside, the best advice I can give you is just to plan everything out, make a checklist, and stick to it. Build good habits. Don't be lazy. Understand that the sooner you get it up, the sooner you get it out.

The only exception to this rule is this time of year, where my volume is through the roof, so anything I acquire from Friday-Sunday I may not list until Sunday evening. And I attend public auctions throughout the year on Friday evening, and usually those items aren't listed until the next day. Just depends on my schedule. You just have to find what works for you and stick to it.

>>773449
Thanks. I think trying to get more stuff listed on the same day would help me out. Normally I'm out buying on Saturdays from 6 AM to about 5 PM, so when I get home I may do some preliminary research on a few of the more interesting or expensive items, and then crack open a beer and tell myself I'll get around to listing on Sunday. Then on Sunday I only get around to listing the high-ticket stuff that I've already researched, and now I have a fairly big backlog of mid-tier items sitting around in my storage room.

Do you feel that using the Excel spreadsheet to track your purchases and sales has helped? That's one thing I've never tried doing. And how do you treat box lots in your spreadsheet? Do you list the whole lot as one item or do you break it down into separate items with each item's price as a fraction of the lot cost?

>>773460

Definitely. It's also useful because I can see ROI's on everything and know what I should buy in the future and what I should avoid in the future.

With box lots, it depends. Anything in the lot that isn't being sold is discarded and I forget it even exists. Everything else is listed under the box lot but I don't split the prices. Basically, as items from the lot sells, then I'll apply the prices to what sold first. Then when I've broken even/already in the profit, I know I can take a little less for the remaining items just to get them out the door. As an example:

box lot contains: item a, item b, item c, and item d. box lot cost me a total of $5

all four items are listed on eBay separately and item b sells first for $8. After fees and shipping, I have $5 left. The entire $5 cost of the box lot is applied to this one item, and now I have three items (a, c, and d) which I in effect paid nothing for. So while my ROI on item B was pretty much 0, my ROI on the other items will be 100%

I find this easier than trying to divide and assign values that way. That might work for a few items, but some of the box lots I acquire potentially have a dozen or more listings in them, so I don't waste time trying to divide values. Whatever sells first gets money applied to it, and then when I break even, everything else is pure profit.

Another advantage of the spreadsheet is I can see how long I've had certain items, so I know to either mark them down, put them in a box lot and sell with other items, or remove online entirely and either sell them at the local auction (where all of my junk goes), scrap it at the scrap yard, donate it to the thrift store for a tax refund, or take it to the flea market the few times a year I go and setup.

>>771619
Sorry for the late reply, I've been off for a while

thefastlaneforum has a good thread about this. But mainly just google and you'll find many

>>773367
This is good stuff, specially the 'how to know if they are resellers or manufacturers' part.

>>773367
Thanks anon, this is exactly what I needed!

You're a saint.

>>773904
>>773951

Another tip: find a local machine shop in your area or other local business. You might be able to get cheaper services and you'll have immediate results (ie no shipping needed).

>>773966
Would you happen to know a good place to advertise for manufacturer contractors?

>List item with NO CABLES.
>Buyer gives me offer.
>I accept.
>Buyer complains that item doesn't have power adapter.


JFDKLA;JFLDSAKFJDA

>>774180

>List earbuds as for parts - not working.
>Sold in a couple of hours to a buyer with 2 feedback
>Oh boy, fingers crossed
>4 days solder INAD case opened...
>Ebay suspends account
>Have to call Indian call center soon

I really wish there was another auction website that could really compete with Ebay. I like selling used/returned (new) products but its just the policies for sellers that hurt. I'm going to need to open a full webstore if I want any more respect from them.

>>774239

On the other hand Amazon has treated me really well at times and other times have let buyers run me over any small complaint. I still prefer their system a bit more because FBA is fantastic for arbitrage.

>Ship large amount of items
>Arrives at warehouse a couple of days ago
>Inventory hasn't updated
>Decide to reconcile claiming missing units on their end
>Amazon determines they can't locate my stuff
>Reimburse me fully the retail price I would've sold it for
>Net 250% profit

On the other hand I have had buyers get free items or return items for bull shit reasons because of items being "lost" during shipping or whatever. Usually my margins are good enough to sell them as open box returns on Ebay for profit or break even.

>>765928

Bumping for further discussion.

What makes a "professional" description?

I'm currently just starting out reselling collectables, and I have 0 feedback, so I don't want to come off scammy.

>>774371

I wouldn't do anything too long. Be concise with the details. Tell them as much as you can with the least amount of text. I'd also state your policies such as shipping, returns, support, etc.

Also inform the buyers to review the pictures provided and that if there is an error in the order that they contact you first to fix it before going straight to Ebay's system.

so to buy on alibaba i need a company name
how'd you guys go about that?

>wait for an ebay to paypal transfer.
>still have to wait for a paypal to bank transfer

>>767000
My biggest problem with Stamps.com is the software is complete dog shit. It works great if you're a small business with 40~ or so order/day. But if you're dealing with 200+, fucking forget about it. It crashes like crazy.

I just use shipstation instead now. With that said, the Pro Label Plus printer is still good and can obviously be used with any other applications outside of Stamps.com as well

>>767038
Yes, it's horse shit. I revamped all my packaging (brought it down from 13 oz to 12 oz) so they just fucked themselves even harder. I remember paying $1.64 back in 2012 or 2013 for a 3 oz package). Now they want more than $2.00.

>>775093
Make one up? Who gives a fuck. All your interactions with the company are almost always going to be outside of Alibaba (minus the initial contact)

>>775093
If you really just need something:

>YOUR INITIALS INC/LLC/LLP/ETC

ex: HTA Enterprises or KLP INC or VHJ Group LLP

My main business is:

West (STATE) (PRODUCT) because STATE PRODUCT wasn't available.

>>775401

You know what I discovered? It's cheaper to pay for the postage at the post office and let them do the label for you, but the problem is it takes longer.

Found that out a few months ago when I had to send something out and didn't have time to do a label and it was a last second thing. Instead of the 1.93 I think I paid 1.3 something. And that was with tracking

>>775395

I bet PayPal hates my fucking guts.

>use credit card to buy all of my labels and shit (cash back)
>but paypal being cunts will not use an alternative funding source unless your account is zero
>so fuck them, I transfer shit out every day, even if it's a small amount

Earlier today I did a bank transfer of not even $5.

>>775472
Would simply calling my bank speed up the process?

What goes through your mind when someone asks you for a refund?

>>775472
>It's cheaper to pay for the postage at the post office
But, it's not...
>>775477
No.
>>775687
Depends on the item and what they said the issue was.

>mfw finally found a profitable niche which sells very well
>doing a big aliexpress order for it today
>it fits into large flat envelopes

>>765928
do yourself a favor and get a lazer printer to replace your current inkjet.

use it to print everything and buy labels for it.

>>774247
Amazon FBA is awesome, I'm actually about to head out right now to pick up some more merchandise. I don't have a lot of space to store shit (I also sell vintage clothing on Etsy) so the fact that I can outsource storage while simultaneously increasing sales is tremendously advantageous.

>>774371
Make sure the pictures are good. They don't need to be pro-quality, but make sure there's enough light and in focus. Make sure the description matches the photos. Be forthright about any flaws the item has (seems counterintuitive, but the more upfront you are about the negatives the less likely the buyer will think you are trying to get one over on them)

Build your feedback by selling a handful of small, fairly cheap, easy to ship items first.

>>775964
The whole order from China fits in an envelope or each product does?

My main product weighs 11 oz for shipping purposes and I fit it into poly mailers since it is not fragile.

>>775964
I hope you are also signed up as an aliexpress affiliate so you can get back a % of your purchase

8c̳̜̠͈h͍͖̪͎an /sp/ GET!

I live in the US and somebody just bought a pretty large Apple computer part. He wants me to deliver it to Switzerland however. I offered free shipping but also specified that I did not ship internationally in the body of my description and checked the box for no international shipping when I listed it. I sent the guy an invoice for the cost of shipping via USPS but I doubt he's going to follow through and pay.

Can I expect bad feedback from him when I inevitably have to close the transaction for this Swiss guy not paying?

>>775964
its 100% counterfeit , your account will be terminated !

>>777997
if he doesnt pay either report him as unpaid buyer or cancel the transaction becasue you stated you dont ship where he lives , you will be fine .

>>777704
Each product.

>>778024
It's not clothes or anything like that, and I've already sold all my samples with no issues.

>>777997
If it's Europe, there is a decent chance they'll pay. It's the poor countries that ignore you and don't pay.

Is it worth spending time on SEO for 10 day auction listings? Anyone know how much of a difference this would make?

I optimise all my buy-it-now listings, just wondering if it's worth it on the occasional auctions.

>>778150

This. In my experience the Europeans and the Japs will pay up if they want something.

>>774371
Concise and honest.

Concise because the longer you waffle and bullshit about the item, the more likely you are to slip in inaccuracies, assumptions, and other possibly harmful details. Your description isn't an advertisement. The buyer already wants the item, you don't need to convince the bastard.

Also, be honest because returns and complaints will hurt you financially, whether that be in terms of refunds, negative feedback, etc. Take good quality photo(s), that will negate most of the need to describe every last feature. Usually people will only need to know:

What is it? What does it do? Is there a picture? Will I receive the exact thing pictured, or something different/only some of it? What is the exact cost?

Is it new? Boxed or unboxed? Shrinkwrapped/mint?

Is it used? Is it functional? Dirty or worn? Any missing components? Any original packaging or documentation?

Keep it simple.

>>775687
>What goes through your mind when someone asks you for a refund?

CUNTS CUNTS FUCKING CUNTS I HAVE YOUR ADDRESS I WILL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN FUCK SHIT AAARGH

Srsly though, my policy is no returns. I include photos and describe the item honestly. I very rarely get asked for a refund. I've had to refund a couple of times because the item was lost in the post (always send valuables registered, make the buyer pay postage) and once because the buyer was some middle-aged Indian bitch who thought it was acceptable to haggle about the price after paying and receiving the item. I accepted a return that time just because I was sick of replying to her 5+ emails a day and didn't want a negative feedback. I hope the bitch got cancer, though. But hey, c'est la vie, you just have to take the inconvenience in your stride and keep on trucking.

>>772613
tfwnogf

>>766860
>Basically you can't use 3rd party labels, only Dymo brand

You can buy third party label copies for a fraction of the price, work perfectly. Dymo printer has been reliable as fuck, Dell wireless printer on the other hand ...

>>776066

It really is. I've had some instances where I might have made more money on Ebay than Amazon but the fact that I can ship off so many units and not have to worry about them makes life easier. You also don't have to go through the process of printing/packing/shipping as much which is also nice.

>>778258

I've considered it before. I think last year though Google hit Ebay with a big search ranking penalty which killed off a ton of their search rankings. You're basically doing work to fill that void.

>>775964
Did you go with something generic or something recognizable?

>30 day listing for one of my top selling items ends.
>Relist, and do 30 days instead of indefinite with automatic renewal.
>1 watcher.
>No sales in days.

fdjkaslfjdakl;

>>774180

>Buyer starts case.
>Buyer wins case, and gets to return item, since they have more feedback than me, and eBay cases work by form of robot.


FUCK

>>778542
>>778150
>>778025

He doesn't have any bad feedback which is a good sign I guess.

24 hours have gone by and he hasn't payed or contacted me. I'm more pissed that I'll have to re-list the damn thing then receiving negative feedback that I can add a comment to explaining the buyer's autism.

>>774180

Something similar tonight:

>list item
>clearly state as-is and missing shit
>buyer makes offer
>accept it
>two days later
>lolididntknowitwasbrokenlol i don't want to buy this lol

I mean, son of a bitch. But these fuckers go on my block list

>>778800
Car related stuff.

>>778542
then you dont have much experience ! Carefull with eastern europeans worst kind!!!!

>>778981
report hte buyer he commited to pay its against ebay tos

>>779027
as long as its not counterfeit your in the money , but be sure that your seller from ali isnt also selling on ebay himself, all of them do it !

>>778918
>since they have more feedback than me

No bro, you have it wrong

>Buyer starts case.
>Buyer wins case.

It doesn't matter their feedback the buyer always wins

>>778936
whats that a mother board? im interested if he doesnt pay

Which one of you did this biz

http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/04/hot-property-woman-tries-to-sell-plots-of-land-on-the-sun-isnt-allowed-5229796/

>>779247
Apple Mac Pro 2009 backplane board. I bought the computer it resided in for $200 and found I could make more money parting it out than trying to sell it as a complete machine. I've already made my money back 2 times over, but this part just isn't selling for some reason. I've undercut everybody selling the same board too.

It will only work with apple's hardware, keep in mind.

>>779318
I found you now i am going to dox you HAHAHAHAH.....just kidding! I am actually trying to get rid of my apple shit , after downloading yosimite it fucked everything become slow , i realized apple became like Microsoft spitting on their customers so im done with this shit . well goodluck selling ur stuff. Do you think i can make good money on n mac book pro laptop 2011 everything works except the touchpad , the buttons do work . i got a couple broken mac keyboards , anotehr broken touch pad removed from the laptop, and a broken charger

>>779341

I'm hoping whatever apple comes out with tomorrow (WWDC) holds a candle to snow leopard.

The track pads are stupid easy to replace if you know what you're doing. They're pretty cheap to replace too (ifixit has them for $70 used A grade, you can probably find them much cheaper). I think fixing that would make it that much more valuable. I see them go on Craigslist and eBay from anywhere between $350 to $1000 depending on the specs. Cosmetic imperfections and broken hardware would bring that estimate down. Look for similarly spec'ed MBP's on eBay and figure out if fixing the computer is worth the extra cost.

or provide me with specs and I'll give you my best guess

i rather sell as is because where i am parts cost alot, probally 100-150 for the touchpad , the buttons works just the finger tap is gone. is htere any money on broken mac parts?

>>779356
I wouldn't think so, but I deal mostly in working computers that I repair and sell as-is in perfect working condition or parted out. You might be better off parting it out. Or sell with a used magic trackpad.

The person you sell it to is either going to fix it themselves and resell it for a higher price or buy it from you and buy an external peripheral (mouse or otherwise) somewhere else. either way, You're probably not going to get a lot out of the laptop. or maybe you will if you bought it super cheap.

>>779204
>Buyer is retard.
>Buyer has less feedback.
>I win the case.


This has happened multiple times.

I run an eBay commerce and make ~115k after taxes a year. Ask me anything.

>>779428


What do you sell?

How many items a day do you ship?

Do you have any employees, or is it just you?


Are all of your items in house, or at a warehouse/storage place?

>>779455

I sell an assortment of things I buy at liquidation auctions.

I mostly sell pet toys/accessories/items such as dog bowls, cat food, and fish tank pumps and filters.

I ship about 60 items per day. Usually more on Mondays because I have to deliver Sunday's things because post is closed on Sundays.

I have 2 workers that get paid $1 per item listed on turbo lister.

I work from my home, but my garage is full of crates and boxes.

>>779428
How do I git gud?

Where are you sourcing things, exactly? I've never heard of a liquidation auction.

What are your margins like?

I'm selling some old vidya junk from around the house to build capital and feedback before I make the jump to full time, any advice would be much appreciated.

>>779618

Check out liquidation . com. That's where I buy my stuff from for dirt cheap. If you want stuff that you can sell quickly, sell cheaply. Its better to make a few pennies off of 1000 items than a hundred from one item.

>>765928
>zebra

lulz enjoy troubleshooting half of the time

Just get a sato or something more reliable japanese shit

anyone sell handmade stuff online, either on ebay/etsy/etc?

i have access to a lot of woodworking tools and have good woodworking skills. my garage is basically a wood shop. what's a good product i could make and sell on ebay? i've been thinking trying headphone stands (omega style), get dem audiophile bux. has to be small, quick to build, and easy to ship.

>>779341
ebay member since 1998 nothing brings out the scammers like a laptop. don't know why but if you are not very familiar with selling online I would skip it. try craigslist or something.

Anyone ever buy off of DH gate? I think I finally found a good product to sell

Can I write the addresses and put stamps on the back of a bubble mailer just like I would with an envelope? Also, a 1.3 ounce bubble mailer only needs 2 stamps 50 cent stamps, right?

>>780326
I meant "two 50 cent stamps"

>>780326
Yes to address, no to stamps . Take it to the post office or weigh and pay with ebays shipping label.

Maybe it's wrong but sometimes selling something for $20 when I only paid $6 for it makes me laugh just a little

just tried listing some junk on amazon - I want to sell it for 14.00 with 5 dollar shipping - at cost.

amazon wants FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS PER SALE.

jesus fuck. makes ebay fees reasonable.

>>781165
Amazon is more of a send and forget kind of thing. Good for high volume book selling

Brother QL-500. Cheap, reliable, can take generic rolls off ebay.

I love it.

So my mom calls me all the time to tell me she found X brand thing at a thrift store and how it's super expensive retail. Like purses, carhart jackets and that one expensive brand of snowboarding jacket that hipsters love.

Would it be worthwhile for her to try to ebay that kind of stuff?

>>781227
>clothes
>ever

>>781228
Memery aside, I'll take that as a "no"
What's wrong with selling clothes?

>>781227
Honestly, no. It sounds like your mom is likely addicted to shopping. The old "I got it because it's worth 20 times what I paid excuse" is what all shopping addicts use. If she starts selling the things then she has the excuse that it's her "job" to buy the things, allowing her to buy more.

Clothes are also high risk because "the color is different than the picture", "The item is too small, I wear a size 16 and this is like a size 4", "This item isn't genuine hollister, I can tell from the stitching".

>>781293
>addicted to shopping
Tell me about it. She has 2 storage lots rented to store the garbage she buys since her house fulled up. 90% of the time she just ends up taking the stuff back to the thrift store 3-5 years after she bought it.

>>779428

How do you determine pricing on your items?

What's the best/cheapest shipping method?

Of all the types of stuff you sell, currently what's in highest demand or your fastest mover?

>>781425

Search the item on eBay, try to find the one that's sold a bunch of units and sell it for a couple bucks cheaper.

I do letter shipping for items under 13oz and package shipping on anything after 14oz, idk where you live but I have a deal with FedEx here in america.

The item that's been selling a bunch for me (150+ over a month) has been Sylvania brand car headlights I got in an auction.

>>781475

I'm an American like you, comrade.

Are the headlights those super bright ones?

Thanks for your reply, wasn't sure if you were still around.

I started selling stuff on eBay this year so a little new to this. I just auctioned a laptop and the winner is in Brazil. I put in the shipping options that I just ship to the US. Is there a way to edit the shipping post auction to send internationally? And I know not to send unless I actually get paid first.

>>781596
if you ship to him prepare to be scammed.

>>781626
It's a "her" lol. They have 26 positive feedback and no negative. But yeah I suspect a scam, what do I do now?

>>781651
Require signature and cross your fingers.

>>781424
I have an aunt that does this too. I honestly think her husband would kill himself if it weren't for their kids. I can't even imagine how much debt they have. She buys shit on sale all the time and gives it as gifts or saves it for later. She's pretty much a hoarder, but at least the shit is nice. Luckily she doesn't have the issue of getting rid of things. She freely gives things away and will donate it to thrift shops.

>>781227


>>781228
>>781293
Have you guys ever even tried to sell clothes on eBay? It can be very profitable particularly if its a thrift come up. I've gotten t shirts for $1 that ended up going for as much as $60.

OP, the next time your mom calls you and asks that, eBay the brand and get a general idea of what the market value is. Clothes can be hugely profitable, and it's less trouble listing them than you think.

If you go through with it I would advise posting the measurements so you dont get a million questions asking what size something is.

>>781227
I also meant to add, if she's talking about North Face or Patagonia those are almost always great sellers.

>tfw you haven't sold anything today.
>tfw average $ earned drops way down.

>>781479

Any and all from pic related. Try to find them in an auction. And I'm on mobile so I get a notification every time someone replies to me until thread dies.

>Customer leaves positive comment with negative feedback
>Call customer service to have it removed
>They tell me it doesn't violate any rules and that they can't remove

I swear, I should just start buying shit off ebay and scamming since there are clearly no drawbacks for buyers.

>>781884

It's Wednesday, people are starting to think about their weekend plans so no time to shop.

Patience young one.

>>779762

Fuck yes make headphone stands; get me a sample and I can talk to the high-fi store here in Scottsdale, AZ.

The store pushes super high end receivers, amps and headphones.

Also, iWatch stands; they're selling for $90.

>>782700
Oh hey Onoh. Thanks for dropping the namefag bit.

>>782742

Hmmm >>767356

1. same IP for a week
2. uses singular when he should use plural...hmm

I don't think Honor would be able to do such a thing

>>782763
Oh, good call. I also overlooked the Scottsdale bit too.

>>782742
>>782763

Glad you guys got that sorted out, it was really touch and go for bit.

How is the current ebay free structure; anyway to get them any lower?

>>782826
Do you mean fee structure? Get top rated to save 20% on final value fee. Purchase a store to get 1%+ off of final value fee, plus more free listings.

>Sell item for parts/not working for $4.
>Buyer leaves negative feedback in Spanish....

mfw

>>781425

I run a surplus operation.

So I undercut every motherfucker. And usually by a few dollars, not just a penny.

>yfw most of my money is made by buying shit from one auction site and then reselling the items on eBay
>yfw sometimes my profit can be double or triple my original investment
>yfw I ain't gotta do shit buy find the shit, buy the shit, and wait for it to come in the mail.

Not revealing my current site but years ago I also did this with ShopGoodwill, but unfortunately they've gotten so goddamn high it's not worth it anymore.

>>784212
Most people get wholesale chink shit anyways

>>784215

And I'll never understand that. Easier ways to get nice profit margins without dealing with shifty slant eyed rice kikes.

The closest I get to reselling chink shit is buying certain items from Northern Tool / Harbor Freight, "rebranding them" for specialized purposes, and selling them like that.

For example, some $4.99 item becomes a SPECIALIZED TOOL FOR DOING X and sold for $19.99, because people are too stupid to realize that it's a regular item.

This is really easy with prepper type shit. That's been my big moneymaker past few years, both retail and online. I used to do video games but that shit doesn't really sell anymore, not like it used to. Plus it's harder to find organically.

>>784218
>Easier ways to get nice profit margins

I also purchase items at auction and get a nice profit margin from them. I bought a lot of an item that I make 4000% profit off each item. It would be an awesome item, but I doubt I will ever find them for auction again.

With the items I purchase from China, I make less profit, but I can sell 400k of them. So there is stability.

I would really like to get into selling liquidation items. The downside is that you need to buy by the truckload to make it worth your time/money. So I need a dedicated warehouse with a loading dock. Right now I just use a storage unit because it works for the items I use.

>Sell item.
>Ship USPS Priority Mail.
>USPS nukes item.
>Buyer receives item in 200 pieces.
>Submit insurance claim to USPS.
>Receive check by mail 6 days later.

Not bad.

>Sell Wii game for $3.50.
>Make a few cents profit.
>Buyer waits a few days, contacts me saying it didn't work, and they had it resurfaced.
>Now wants to return it.

ReeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anyone from Canada into ebay wholesale ordering and selling?

Are there any issues/regulations with how much you can import?

>>781016
Is that considered a high resale markup for bulk resellers? Because that doesn't even come close to the obscene numbers you run into in the thrift store/yardsale game.

>>780326
Stamps are perfectly fine on bubble mailers, parcels, flat-rate boxes, etc. You're not going to get change if you put too many stamps on, so err on the low side and you can pay the balance to the cashier at the post office.

What're the best (i.e cheap but reliable) postal services for shipping /fa/ shit from the UK? For UK shipping I just use Royal Mail but I'm completely clueless as far as international shipping goes.

When buying, how do you like your parcels to be shipped?

>>785243
oh, not necessarily selling via Ebay since there's no point reselling cheap things with Ebay fees, but I figured that this was the best thread to post it in since I'm using similar services

>>769724
Not long ago I too disputed a charge with my credit card. I got into a small car crash and rather than get a monthly increase by my insurance, I decided to pay her to fix her car. It seemed like they knew each other given that they were both Armenian and they billed me $120 as a "car rental". No car rental invoice was given to me so I initiated a chargeback, which I won. I got that extra $120 back. All I had to do was point out where they neglected to show the math. However you do need evidence so obviously you need to come up with something.

I work at a UPS store. I get free packing supples (bubble mailers/wrapping/boxes) and get to print labels on our Zebra 450 label printer for free.

I want to send out 3 items selling for $100+ but I do not want to use the post office... but UPS is raping me on shipping prices. What happens if something gets damaged or lost in the post office?

when signing up for alibaba should I get a supplier account or a buyer account

is there a difference

>>784752

Doesn't that only cover like 50$ max? or did you pay extra for the insurance

>>785341
>What happens if something gets damaged or lost in the post office?

You would be fucked, unless it's Priority mail/you bought insurance separately.

I've only had 1 thing delivered to the wrong address, and then 1 item damaged, and USPS gave me a check in 6 days.

>>785409

It does. And usually extra insurance is pretty cheap.

I only use it for large items - mainly TV's although I stopped focusing on items that have problems from retarded buyers/scammers.

>>783774
>selling internationally

>>785373
Yea, ones meant for people who want to buy things.

>>785470

That's the one thing I love about USPS. They don't dick around with refunds.

FedEx on the other hand, goddamn I hate them sons of bitches. They're literally Jews and will fight tooth and nail to pay out a claim.

>2015
>Using Faggotbay unironically

You would have to be ten types of a retard to use this cancer of a site.

They eat ~15% of every dollar you sell

They don't even let you list short auctions without paying

The seller has no fucking rights and buyer fraud happens on a daily basis (literally any claim made by a buyer about a sale is accepted by ebay)

They take commission from shipping costs even if you don't use their labels

They hold transactions for items sold until the buyer is 'satisfied' with a purchase so the seller is fucked if the buyer decides that they want to start playing games.

There is no way to prove theft when sellers return

There is no way to prove your item is in a working condition that you listed it as when you shipped it (a buyer can claim what they want and ebay takes their side automatically)

The return process automatically suggests a full refund and for the seller to pay for return shipping. Choosing any other option is a hassle and about 95% of the time is a futile effort

Beware of Faggotbay and their cancer policies unless you are selling something that no one can ever complain falsely about

>>785664
Yep.


Feel free to start your own better than eBay site. I'd be happy to start selling there.
>Have $12,000+ of items listed.
>Haven't sold anything in a day.
>Sales have been declining recently.

wtf

>>767831
>you can do ~*odd number* at a time

>>785664

While I agree, I live in a small redneck town of approximately 1500-2000 people. If I opened a retail business I wouldn't make jack shit.

eBay gives me a global presence, so I'm able to move merchandise that is, quite honestly, unmovable around these parts.

>>785664

These are all very good and true points.

You are also able to get more discounts as a good seller. Being higher ranked also puts your listing in better positions which should let you charge more. Charge higher but not too high to retain the extra sales that come from better ranking.

Ebay provides a great side income for me that I can develop into full time income (along with Amazon).

It's not consistent income like a job but it provides great earnings per hour for minimal work.

If it takes me 20 minutes to find (as in buy from a store or where ever), list, package, and ship and I make $10 profit off of that shirt then that's like making $30 a hour.

Sell multiple items or buy larger items in shorter time periods and you find that you're technically making more per hour. Reinvest the earnings to expand or just passively invest index funds/stocks/etc.

>>785664

There are some preventive measures you can take to prevent buyers from fucking you over. You can reach a human on Ebay's support line although it does take a little bit of work. If your items have high enough margins then this extra time is worth it.

I would NOT mess with phones, TV's, mainstream headphones (think beats by dre). If you're not an established store you'll get way too many retarded questions, complaints, scammers, etc.

They're charging for shorter auctions because they usually don't sell or sell for much less. They're trying to encourage people to list for longer because it usually ends up selling for more thus giving them a bigger cut of the profits plus it should make you more happy theoretically.

The commissions from shipping costs was to stop sellers from abusing the whole "sell it for 99 cents + 20 in shipping". This usually lost them sales/pissed off customers that were stupid and didn't check the shipping costs. It was the easiest solution to implement.

They've been releasing my funds asap because I'm established. Usually its one week for newer people if they ship right away.

There really isn't way to prove theft. I would recommend taking pictures of UPC codes and serial numbers as a best measure. You can only really hope to report it so that if they consistently do it then Ebay should ban them. Ebay could possibly return the money to you (I've heard cases of it recently but these are just anecdotes).

It's a bitch to handle proving your item works. I recommend putting notes/business cards that say you want to help and to message you immediately for support with the item. You should also accept 14 day returns with no restocking fees. I've been burnt too many times when people didn't want to pay the damn fee because they didn't want the item and thus I got burned with a INAD case. If the item is genuinely not working make the return process as easy possible so that they do not open those damn cases.

>>786185


>They're charging for shorter auctions because they usually don't sell or sell for much less. They're trying to encourage people to list for longer because it usually ends up selling for more thus giving them a bigger cut of the profits plus it should make you more happy theoretically.


I disagree. eBay are a bunch of snakes but I believe there reason they charge for 3 day and 1 day auctions is because it was allowing medium budget sellers to move too much stuff. When I list auction items they don't usually sell until until the last day and don't reach peak price until the last five minutes. That's because people still search by "auction ending soonest". So why does it matter if the auction ends in a day? You can just relist it the next day.

eBay doesn't care about chump change but what they do care about is people turning a $50 profit on a $5 handbag because it means that they don't have to play the buy from china sell ching chong merchandise for pennies game that these disgusting illiterate tripfags seem to love.

>>786607

That's a valid point. Could be for both reasons.

I find it obscene how many knock off sellers remain.

>Run small to medium sized eBay business.
>Buy auctions lots and sell on eBay.
>Move tons of stuff sometimes.

What's an appropriate job title on LinkedIn for me?

>>786699

Owner of INSERT COMPANY NAME

does anyone flip shit on ebay? If so does anyone have any friendly tips?

>>786960
>Get free/cheap as possible.
>Sell high.

>>785243

Just keep using royal mail unless one of the other couriers are cheaper.

You dont have to do anything different, just fill out a little sticker saying what is in the package.

My margins are so small I'm hardly making anything ;-;

What are you guys selling?

>>787315

Anything that makes me money.

>>787315

Gun parts.

I make a killing

I used to sell video games but 1, I can't really find that shit anymore, and 2, it just doesn't sell all that well plus you get idiot buyers

But generally I'll buy anything that makes money and I usually find one or two things per month I pay $5-20 for that I usually sell for $300-500. Medical equipment, industrial equipment, etc.

As an example: last year bought a duffel bag at a public auction. Aviators bag. Had a pair of "headphones" in it as the auctioneer described. Vintage pair of David Clark's that sold for $200. Also had two silver coins stuffed in the bottom of the bag, got $30 apiece for them. Kept the bag which is worth around $25-30. Also included a few inexpensive things which I dumped off at the flea market for a few bucks apiece.

What did I pay? $10 + tax + buyer's fee, so just a hair over $11.

>90 year old WW2 veteran calls my personal phone number about item I sold them.
>H..how in the fuck are they getting my phone number, and how can I prevent buyers from getting it in the future?

>>787333
I've been selling some old tag cards for 3-5 bucks each , but it costs 2 to ship and they aren't buying in batches like I'd hoped.

Good to hear you're doing well for yourself, though.

Where do you source, besides auctions?

>>787290
I've been doing this on runescape fro years. I can become a professional businessman now.

>>785373
If you are this stupid give up now.

>>787333
dont tell me you sell all those made in china scopes and army gear , i feel bad for the persons whose life depends on those

>>787350

Estate sales. Yard sales. Flea markets. Public auctions. Pawn shops. Thrift stores though this has really went down in recent years. Certain places online.

>>787399

No. I sell a combination of actual military surplus, OEM parts, etc. A lot of the shit I sell on eBay I buy from gunbroker, and can usually make $30-100 per transaction depending on the deal I got.

Charge everything to my CC, I have the shit sold usually before the month is up. Pay it off asap. Free equity. Ever since I've gotten solid credit, my business has skyrocketed. Fuck a bank, Discover and Capital One bankrolls my operation

>I also pay for all postage and eBay fees with credit cards so I get cash back rewards

>>787430
thank you ! i seriously pray for those people . Sometime i wonder if gunshops dont import it themselves then sell it as made in america. military surplus is the way to go. also thanks for the tip ill check out discover and capital

>>787454
Don't try starting to sell on ebay with Credit Cards unless you know what you're doing.

I'm onto a good lead for a chinese product. Very high volume and about 300% profit. However the product is custom and the chink I'm talking to keeps making mistakes on details. Fucking language barriers.

>>779428

how much tax do u pay a year?

>tfw USPS paid out my other 2 insurance claims today.

FUUUUUUUUUCK

>>787362
Same shit happened to me on World of Warcraft.

One day hit me i could be doing this for actual dollah.

I just had all of my fallout 4 pipboy edition removed from eBay due to some policy regarding presale. I did everything they asked and I've also done this before. if I list it again will I get in trouble? if they removed too many listings does your account get fucked? I've been working on this account for over 7 years and I don't want to see it go away because of something stupid.

>>789918

Why are you listing it this early? You can still get pre-orders for it. Makes no sense.

>everyone knows you wait until after launch to sell these, because the bastards who didn't pre-order and didn't get any of the abandoned pre-orders or handful of commercial units goes on eBay and overpays for one.

>>790172

pre-orders are all sold out.

also, everyone else is listing it already.

i've listed preorders for items months early before and nothing ever happened.

besides, i need the money from the buyers to buy the products to begin with. hopefully they'll sell before amazon tries to ship them.

>>767038
>Parcel Select – +8.0%
so what, it's going to cost about the same as priority now?
What a fucking waste.

>Sell item to buyer over a month ago.
>Buyer starts unauthorized transaction claim with PayPal today.
>Money is being withheld by PayPal.
>Buyer never contacted me before this, and item was successfully delivered a month ago.


Wat do? I provided the tracking number to the PayPal case, but will I lose the item, and my money? Will the buyer face any legal consequences or have to return the item? I've never ran into this before. Buyer has like 10 feedback..

>>790482

It already pretty much cost the same as priority.

>About to list some things on eBay.
>Search is down.
>eBay is kill.

'no'

>>790577
wtf its true ! first fuckign time i see this!!!!

>>790594

I've sold some items on ebay and the estimated date on when my funds will be released will be today. how long does it usually take?

>>790612
Probably a week?

Don't worry, just keep selling and you won't have that restriction anymore...

>>790612
Yeah but some of the payments should be released today, just wondering what time I'll get my shekels.

>>790577

Everything but my ebay is working for me right now.

>tfw sales are good again.

Fuck ebay and paypal holding my funds

What if the UPCs on my items are not in ebay's catalog?

Most of the items I sell have UPCs, although when I attempt to enter them in my listings & submit I get an error stating invalid UPC.
From what I understand, this means that ebay was not able to locate the UPC of my item in their catalog?

I also sell items that are new manufactured goods which do not have UPC/GTINs, can I put "Does not apply" for these items, or does that go against the new "product itentifiers" policy on new items?
Thank you :-)

>>790534
Bump!

So I have a pretty nearly unlimited supply of paint I can get brand new for essentially nothing. I won't go into how. Gallons of paint weigh roughly 11 lbs and fit in a 10x10x10 box.

I'm willing to sell this paint for ridiculously under msrp because of how cheap i can get it. although shipping is expensive. ebay calculates one gallon shipped california to colorado costing $15 UPS ground.

would I have more success on ebay including the price of shipping in the cost of the item, and offering "free shipping", or attracting customers with a crazy low price on the paint and hitting them with the high shipping cost?

>>792689

If this is new I would say offer the good price below MSRP. My rule of thump is to round down to the next 9. So if I could sell them for 27 I'd go for 19.95 instead and just sit on the buy it now. Once you get some sales you'll lock in the top spot in which case you can gradually increase your price. First to 21.29, then to like 24.95 and so on.

Auction imo is only for used goods that you need to sell for sure. You'll most likely get less with the fact of knowing it will sell.

As we can see since you can source this paint for cheap and undercut the competition then you should just list it buy it now aiming to get top of the rankings with early sales + free shipping + 1 day handling time (this is important - it does affect your ranking!)

>>792693
Just so I'm clear. The 19.95 you're suggesting is the buy it now price, with an offer of free shipping? what other fees should I expect? if I get the gallon for a dollar that would put me at $4 profit, not counting the cost of shipping materials and other sale-related fees.

also one-day handling won't be a problem.

>>785501
>none of the beaners in america speak spanish

>>792701

I was just picking random numbers out of my ass. If you're comfortable with telling me the MSRP and what the going rate is on Ebay then I would just suggest taking the going rate and rounding it down to the nearest 9. If it's at like 60 for example, don't do 59.95 but rather 49.95.

Fees is usually about 13% (Ebay fee + Paypal fee) + whatever your shipping cost is. I suppose you can also calculate the cost of people trying to return it used/claiming its defective as a cost/fee too. You could guess and say it's 2% of your margin.

>>792701

Also you should gradually raise your price once you get top 3 ranking (shoot for first obviously). Gradually raising your price shouldn't hurt your ranking/sales and now you can sell your product for more to a larger amount of visitors.

Make your listing as concise and professional as possible. The description should state simply the name of the product and any manufacturer info. It should also list the tl;dr version of your selling policies.

Ex:

- Packages are shipped out within 1 business day!
- Free shipping on ALL orders!
- 24/7 support
- 14 day no hassle returns!

I would highly suggest you choose to accept returns (rank boost) and that you do not charge them any restocking fees. The only time I charge restocking fees is for clothes since I know my items are defective and I have pictures of the size to prove it.

If you make your returns easy as possible you prevent buyers from opening bullshit INAD cases which can hurt and even ban your selling account.

>>792701

There's also the option to allow buyers to submit best offers. I'm indifferent on this right now.

In my opinion it just encourages buyers to try to offer you less than if than what they were originally going to purchase it for. I don't think I've really gained too many sales by selling my product for lower to buyers that didn't want to pay my original price. If there was a more effective way of targeting customers that would purchase your product if it was cheaper without affecting people that would buy it for more then I'd be raking in some serious dosh right now for my own listings.

>>792730
>>792726
>>792724
thanks for all the info. msrp on the stuff i have can range anywhere from $20/gal to $80/gal.

Everything I can find on ebay is either used paint people have left over, or specialty niche products. I can't find ANY brand new, untinted paint anywhere

>>793006

Looks like you'll hit a nice goldmine then. Check out Amazon and Google some other stores like Lowes or Homedepot to get a feel of what the going price is.

I also think there's an option on Ebay to list the MSRP and then list your price to show there's a discount. This always helps in selling too. Basically show the customers you can give it to them fast and for a good price ;)

>guy buys something
>two hours later wants to cancel order
>fuck it, I'll authorize it
>he still hasn't confirmed it five days later

So as of right now this order is pretty much in limbo. I can't relist because he hasn't confirmed the cancellation and my money isn't being held because he hasn't cancelled and I haven't heard a peep from him about it.

Anyone know how long he has to claim the refund? I'm assuming the 45-60 days? I wouldn't mind pocketing this $60 and then relisting the item a month or two from now.

>listed something up a month ago
>it theory it should have sold very well
>only one sale
>its really cool and can be useful to a lot of people but i had to word it in a way that ebay wouldnt remove it

fucking sucks. Good thing is it costs very cheap and the profit margin is so great. Wish I could get more people to find my product.

Should I try to make an e-commerce site selling these items, and just seo the fuck out of it instead?

Also

>trying to find another product
>everything is sold on ebay ever
>by the same chinese fuckers that make the products.

>>793571

Also

>1 watcher
>that watcher listed the same item
>we have the only listings of these items on ebay
>he listed it for $25 free shipping
>i listed it for $9.99 free shipping
>his account is made in march
>mines from 2007

rip

>>793571
Tell us more about the product and we can tell you whether it's worthwhile

>>793591

nah, no secrets being revealed here.

i reported all his listings because they violated the terms of service. i managed to get around it my own way through listing practices.

hopefully his shit gets taken down.

I want to purchase fake mid tier fashion items off Aliexpress and sell them on eBay. I'm a student with no job and I'm too anxious to get a conventional one.

Is it possible to do this without getting in trouble?

>>793668

I have seen listings where you could select different Items from the same brand- Basically a lot of different items in 1 listing. What kind fo tool do I need for that?

>>793919
Advanced listing tool.
It's already built into eBay.

>>793995
Thank you. I'm sorry for the dumb question but I'm pretty bad with stuff like this.

>>793668
With mid-tier or up and coming geek brands it works.

Some clients will notice though. Best to repay them ASAP and hope there is no fallout.

Three things though. These Chinese manufacturers do not care about repeat business usually. They just want you to pay up and sell just any shit to you.

In light of that, you might just, if you have enough money to spend, fly down to Shenzhen or Guangzhou and fill a partial container with non-branded stuff that you know you can sell.

Also, unless you got patience and extreme business savvy, dealing in pirated goods is not a road to riches. It is just another income.

>>781596
isnt there an option to select only US shipping? I coulda sworn there were checkboxes you check for shipping to this locale only...

Lmao, just sold 6 sets of my item to the same customer, for the total of 150 quid.
The 6 sets cost me 18 quid.

>Sell item 'BROKEN, HAS TO BE USED X WAY'
>Listing name states this.
>Description states this.
>Picture shows item condition.
>Buyer starts return.
>hurr durr item is broken pls gibe refund
>Money being withheld in PayPal until eBay takes a side.

SCREAMS INTERNALLY

>>794133
Always a good feeling.

>>794215
If ti clearly said it in the listing, and it was in for parts category, you have a decent chance at winning it.

>>794331
>Buyer has 0 feedback.
>PayPal still holding the money.
>eBay hasn't taken a side yet.

FUCKING BUYERS REEEEEEEE

>5 days ago buyer orders item
>4 days ago it ships
>scheduled to be delivered tomorrow
>buyer sends email saying to cancel his order

Fuck off

I haven't been on /biz/ in about a year, anyways anyone remember that ebayer who was always lurking around these type of threads posting pepe frog pics and boasting how much hes made?

last time i heard of him he was getting rekt for being a nigger

>>794787
also i tried using alibaba or whatever it is for a few months, really hard to find a unique product before every store nationwide is in competition with you

couldnt seem to find jack shit, props to the people that do tho

>>794712
what do u do in that situation?

>>794788
what were the products you were buying? I've been looking at e cigs

>>794803

Tell them that unfortunately you can not do that as the item had been shipped within your estimated handling time and that it is almost delivered.

You should have a return policy available for these reasons alone. Let them return it hassle free. Hell take the hit on shipping.

The thing is, these guys can come up with bullshit reasons and open up Ebay cases so that they can try to return the item if you don't accept returns or get out of paying return shipping (yes some people will try to fuck you over $2-$5 in shipping - sucks if it's a larger item and you have to pay more though). You need to do everything you can to keep those defects low. Yes you'll take a hit on your margins but you should only be moving items that can net you +15% profit after fees/shipping and accounting for returns (2ish% estimate in my books).

Of course, if you have a fully written out listing. Take pictures of the UPC codes, item being shown as new/used or whatever and have the buyer admit in the message they just simply don't want it then you should be able to remove any defect if they open up a case. However, you'll need to call Ebay and spend however much time it takes to reach a US representative that can help you. Personally, my time is more valuable so I just offer a hassle free policy.

>>794837
That really depends on what kind of seller he is. I wouldnt accept returns as a private seller. That jsut gives them room for more bullshit.

>>794787

lol, no one got rekt. Not boasting, just showing that anything is possible.

and here I was trying to avoid this thread.

>Everything...is going according to plan

>>794823

I'm guessing you're looking at the Snoop Dog e cigs, it's usually what everyone goes for. Don't do it, your competitors will claim "trademark violation" on you.
You should be in iWatch accessories by now, c'mon if they're foolish enough to buy an Apple Watch, they'll buy your overpriced accessories.

>>794712
You have an advantage if:

>You don't have a return policy
>He says anything about the item not being what he wants

If you don't have any of these, eBay will have him return the item for a full refund unless you have a restocking fee.
Also, if he rejects the package, you win.

>>794986

lol someone took a merchant cash advance

>tfw had some confederate flags for sale I got at a surplus auction
>tfw they all sold this morning before I could get up and jack the prices

Only thing that pisses me off is I should have ran out to Wal-Mart yesterday or the day before and bought up every goddamn flag they had. Should have known this kneejerk shit would happen

>>795130
Just bought a 20 pack of 3'x 5' to sit on until they go up.

>>794986
No I've never heard of snoop dog e cigs I've been looking at random e cigs on Alibaba but I need a business to buy off of there

>>784869
They altered the product from it's original state, eBay will shut them down hard.

>>792339
Lol, I did this last night, it lets you choose Does Not Apply as an option and that's what I did to 30 items.

>>794986
I did look at some iwatch protector cases and I may put in an order for 100 and see how they do

>>795191

Alibaba has everything, yes mostly everything that's on there is on eBay/Amazon already, but that shouldn't stop you from buying.

I'm guessing you're looking for a "get rich quick" product with big margins. That's not going to come easy, and when it does, few weeks and someone else will be selling it for cheaper.

lol just find the usual things that don't turn up in the thousands, sell different variations.

>Yfw you found out Alibaba is worth more than eBay/Amazon combined

>>795199

iWatch cases died few weeks ago

not a good starter since the big guys can buy larger, for cheaper.

This one here isnt on ebay and it doesn't look too bad

>>795216

Alright, and where do you think you'd be on the search result?

Page 6 or 9?

lol you didn't have to post the product.

>>795222
Dunno but I'm in the UK and there is 1/3 of the listings on ebay here compared to the pic you posted so I believe there'd be more chance of my listing get some interest, even if I'm at the end people can be very specific about what look they want so they may well go to page ten to find the perfect one.

>>795234

Oh. you could've said that. Haha, yea I don't know much for UK eBay. Things are different over there.

Bestofluck

>>794983
yea you get rekt

>>794983
plus having that much money in a paypal account isnt safe in my opinion so showing that doesnt prove anything

>>795383
It proves that he has money and that everything is going well. Your opinion doesn't matter.

>>795407

Funny how outside an eBay thread, discussing eBay is much easier than talking about it inside.

Gonna be a long night, so many things to order from across the globe.

>>795407
It proves he got a 4500 peer to peer loan to buy more shit from aliexpress. I'm sure his dad probably took out the loan for him. Might have had to put the limo up as collateral.

>>795508
Someone had to pay for these watch stands.

http://www.ebay.com/usr/storegames

>>795508

Black guy having "dad" take out loan for him, lol this reminds me of the Rabi, Jew, Black Guy on a plane joke. Only if /pol was here to pull out some statistics of fatherless children.

Feel free to google this >>795093

Paypal loans are based on how good your biz is

lol had to use the ol "Did he sharpen the pencil" metaphor on CS to get a neutral feedback removed.

>>795147
Why would they go up in price???

>>795569
Wait what?
>Trying to order item from Aliexpress.
>This keeps happening.

Wat do?

>>795673

>Was talking about how I get my neg/nut/cases removed/closed.

Same thing happens sometimes, try using the mobile app to checkout.

>>795652

Visit the main page of CNN, or simply Google Don Lemon to find out.

>>795681
Mfw I bought 20.

mfw eBay, and Amazon are banning them.

>>795682

At least you've given me a reason to post this, sooo mission accomplished!

>>795683
wat

>>795686

Haha, similar to what happened to me a few weeks ago.

Banned for a year for selling dummy iPhones, took about 10hours till they realized I wasn't at fault.

Took another 2 weeks till they removed my competitors listing (after he sold hundreds).

>Chinese are still selling though, lovely huh?

>>795688
So you were unbanned?

>>795689


Well of course

Almost banned again when I sold something I thought was arriving in a week. Turned out the seller never shipped, lol lots of negative/angry buyers/feedbacks. eBay removed after some time.


>even tried warning my competitor when I found out every seller was lying, he didn't listen.

Any eBay stealth account owners here?

One problem I have right now is some of my PayPal accounts are filling up while others are going to go into the negative from store fees.

Can anybody recommend a way to move money between these accounts without PayPal finding a connection between them?

>Buy item from seller within 25 miles of my house.
>Ships USPS Priority Mail.
>Seller hasn't shipped after a day+.

I could be making profit from this... but NOoope