/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7602843
repeat after me: SHIT. COIN.

>>7602843
Sorry bud im accumulating vechain not this mess

pets.com

GMN here

This project is legit.

Easily 3m masternodes at end of 2018, that's only 15b market cap

how much for one

>>7602843
>>7602881

can we stop acting like Vechain and Walton wont partner with each other in the future.

fuckin idiots.

>>7602905
100k

>>7602928
exactly, I hold both VEN and WTC, you would be stupid to not hold both

Walton can't even design a normal modern looking wallet or run a functional AMA, Why the fuck would you trust them with anything? Their only partnership is being in a partnership with 140 different companies.

>>7602928
VEN has extremely shitty rfid tech, it's already widely assumed they will have to partner with WTC. VEN is nothing but a 'brand', they'll have to leverage WTC. Why not own the real coin?

>>7602928

vechain is several tier's above walton, and has expanded the scope of their project to the point where the two shouldn't even be compared anymore as rivals

>>7603038
You're out of your mind. Show me one thing VEN has that is superior. VEN has shitty tech, can't even communicate directly with the blockchain, which is a HUGE vulnerability. VEN is essentially dead on arrival.

Yes, very shifty Vechain tech...

https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/introducing-vechains-cto-gu-jianliang-to-the-community-81f7343f583b

>>7603021
That's not even true, stop being a fucking moron

https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/introducing-vechains-cto-gu-jianliang-to-the-community-81f7343f583b

Both projects are good. The rivalry is fucking stupid, you should hold both of them.

>Integrating blockchain with the Internet of things
>Integrating <BUZZWORD 1> with <BUZZWORD 2>

>>7602843
WE ARE GONNA B FUCKIN RICHHHHHHHH MY NIGGGGGAAA. NEETS TAKIN OVER

>>7603121
you've been bamboozled by vaporware marketing and a cool colorful polygonal V logo. You guys are like moths to a flame. good luck.

The only argument walton cucks have is muh rfid, nobody gives a fuck about rfid tech you mongoloids vechain can easily upgrade.

Come back to me when a corporation the size of DNV GL says they will use Waltons blockchain otherwise walton is little leagues meanwhile VeChain is major league.

Been holding WTC since last month.
It survived even fucking moon on bear market surpassing the December-Early January bullrun, but why it's dipping now when btc and almost everything go on a bullrun?

walton obviously got rejected by DNV, meaning WALTON IS SHIT

This coin is literally a pajeet scam. There’s been some posts over reddit explaining exactly how and here too. Something to do with shady ceo blah blah. Anyway, this coin has a shit tier name, no hype, and all cucks sucking its shity dick. Literal shit coin

>>7603233
What do you expect from a coin named WTC?

>>7603246
Cucks to be shilling it. Expectations met

>>7603175
I have a WTC node you retard. Both projects are good.

walton is a loser coin

>>7603344
You’re 50% correct. Ven is a great project

>>7603021

actually "extremely shitty" is speculation. you dont even know waht their rfid looks like. nobody does except Vechain and perhaps some of their investors. it hasn't been revealed.

It's a fallacy to say so at this point when the evidence is that you haven't seen it. perhaps waltons rfid is better.

second fallacy is thinking that Vechain only wants to be a supply chain coin. that isn't its sole purpose. not at all.

extremely likely they will both be partnered in the future.

if you are no node pleb in either project, might be worth holding both. if you hold a node in either i wouldn't compromise that position if it meant losing node status especially.

>>7603021
Both of these projects fucking suck. Putting microchips in everything is just retarded, tracking/scanning everything. replacing barcodes. Will be nightmare for customs and taxes and being tracked everywhere. Your underwear will have RFID chips it in for no reason, just so they can track you going through the mall and when you are walking around

>>7603644
Ok brainlet

how many WTC is it gonna be for a masternode

>>7603644

>>7603720
5k

>>7603644

>he fell for the masternode meme

>>7603720
5000

>>7603644
>>7603420
>>7603233

>Walties on suicide watch

>>7603493
I'm pretty sure they did a video demo of their rfid chips in 2017.

>>7602843
Guardian node holder.
Y’all bickering is fucking annoying.

>>7603644

>>7604122


not keen on the walton node system though. It's still mining oriented.

Vechain does not have a whitepaper
There is no knowledge about their developers
There is no Github activity.
Their website is a that of a very low quality.
They mention on their website the release of a so-called Clou(n)d platform in Q4 2017. I started a Reddit post to ask what a clouNd platform is. Nobody could answer me. I tried to ask the Vechain devs in discord, nobody was able to contact me since they were working on their main net.
The coca cola kid is clearly a sign of insiders trading.
Low-quality partnerships brought as HUGE partnerships. For example the DNL GV partnership, there is clearly a partnership, but DNL GV gave an official press release that DNL GV cooperated with Deloitte labs to create blockchain, so I would like to know how exclusive this is. The PWC partnership is a partnership as a third-party provider, the partnership with Liaoning Academy of Agricultural Sciences is brought as something big, while Liaoning Academy of Agricultural Sciences only published one article in the whole of 2016-2017. In short: Any partnership has some way or another some flaws.
Some advisors of Vechain have still Lorem ipsum on their website.

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>>7604206
Jim Breyer

There is a reason Walton isn't on this board anymore, it's for deluded redditards, 1 Ven will be 1000 dollars in 6-12 months and walties will be 40 dollars max, literally everyone I know owns Ven and we are all going to make it eat shit walties losers and buy VEN it's the better coin

>>7602843

>the only rfid/nfc that communicates directly with the blockchain (the competition are a joke with their big chips and qr codes requiring an api)

wow are you actually mentally retarded

The essential difference between Walton and VeChain is the layer at which the blockchain is implemented. Walton has patents on the txID-reading RFID chips with memory, which allows the blockchain to be implemented in the foundational level through the RFIDs. They are world leaders in chip technology, and make their own chips. VeChain does not make their own chips. They outsource the hardware, and have the hardware made compatible with their blockchain via API. So their blockchain is implemented several layers up in the application layer, through business-centralized control. So, VeChain is inherently less decentralized and less secure.

This is the essential difference, and it's not a deal-breaker for VeChain, but it is a fact, and it does matter. Walton is somewhat ironically better at authentication than VeChain for this reason, despite VeChain's original main use-case as an anti-counterfeiting product (they've since expanded their use-case into cold logistics and other areas).

But there are other advantages to making your own chips. VeChain is using someone else's hardware and then repurposing it for their blockchain. Walton has built the chip from the ground up to be compatible with the blockchain and improved the standard chip to be much more advanced, with encryption, fine minute movement detection, anti-collision logic to prevent skipping, low voltage technology so the chips can last more than 20 years, and other advancements over standard chips. Making their own chips also makes them cheaper. Standard RFIDs are 15 to 20 cents. Walton's are less than 5.

If we're comparing hardware and implementation, Walton has the clear advantage here. As for software, we can't compare yet because we don't know about what technology VeChain has for their blockchain. We do however know that Walton is scalable, due to their dual-chain + child chain structure, which also gives companies the option of keeping proprietary and other information private on their child chain, while only broadcasting needed public information to the parent chains.

Lastly, you can compare partnerships and adoption. VeChain has some large partnerships and even national govt support to build a smart city as a pilot for quick expansion into larger scale implementation. I don't want to take anything away from that. It's impressive. Compared to other crypto projects, this should be a dream. Vechain should be much higher market cap due to these large partnerships.

But Walton is no slacker, and while many people seem to just universally think that vechain is far ahead in partnerships, I simply disagree. I won't say who has better partnerships, but I will elaborate on Walton's. They have multiple provincial govt contracts to build smart cities, smart oceans, and smart air purification solutions, and they have won multiple awards from the National govt of China for their tech. They've received govt subsidies for mass production of their RFIDs as well. They have many multi-billion dollar partnerships with many different supply chains that are using their product right now in a testing phase, and with as many companies using their product, they are actually China's most adopted blockchain currently

They have many angel investors, and multiple from the Korean Chambers of Commerce. Their chief scientist is the recent ex-VP of Samsung, who also worked at Honeywell and Bell Labs. He himself holds 60 patents and has published over 250 academic papers. They recently partnered with NIDS for their air purification system, which works with many different big name supply chains, including Honeywell and Samsung, which was a strategic partnership to position themselves for expansion into multiple global supply chains. I could go on. The point is, Walton is not lacking in the partnership/connections arena.

I don't know of any technological advantages that VeChain has over Walton, so it'll be interesting to see as more details about VeChain's blockchain are revealed. Until then, we can't compare.

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>>7604610
clear, unbiased write-up, nice
i would buy some walton but it would require me to compromise my ven thunder node

Sage. OP is a faggot

>>7604656
>muh muh rfid tech which can easily be upgraded in house

VeChain already won.

Writing on the wall is VeChain, if it was Walton i'd be shilling it.

>>7603644
wow you really dont understand anything do you

>>7604571
>>7604610
>>7604638

If you not in Waltonchain after reading this you deserve to be poor.

Nothing in that write-up can be disproven.

>>7604789
it's a literal copy pasta that that one walty salty ven fudder made in january, you have to be a brainlet to think muh slightly better tech is all that matters.

>>7604821
Would it help if i type it in my own words you fucking idiot?

Paste or not, its true.

Btw Waltonchain just partnered wtih LOCIcoin and Freyr

>>7604890
>w-walton not lacking the partnership area!! they just partnered with a purifucation system company, they have connections to Honeywell and Samsung!! Walton Chain numba 1 vechain = peechain

>Btw they just partnered with an ICO , VeChain btfo!

nobody gives a fuck about some slightly better RFID tech, institutional money is going to look at partnerships and infrastructure.

>>7602984
China Mobile IoT Alliance

Zhangzhou Branch of China Telecom Corporation Limited

"Smart Oceans" blockchain R&D project with Fujian Provincial Government

Air purification and smart monitoring project with Jinhu Provincial Government

Building "Blockchain Silicon Valley" with Taiwan Cloud and Fujian Provincial Government

Loci

Shenzhen Card Cube Smart Technology co., Ltd

NIDS Sensor Technology

Mobius

Kaltendin

Yunnan Yunshanghuaxia Trading co., Ltd.

JU&KE Creative Design

ArtCrypto

Fanfangxiang Culture & Media co., Ltd.

Shenzhen M&A Association of Listed Companies

Septwolves

Fuguiniao

SMEN

Kehua

Lipson Plastic

Xiangyu Group

TANYU

JoeOne

Guangdong Original Clothing Trading Center

Lalabobo

Direct delivery

Fujian Soonbox Logistics Park

KISA and Korean IoT research centre

Korea University engineering department

Sungkyun Technologies

NanKang City Furniture industry

Taiwan Cloud Association

Fuyao Glass Industry Group co., Ltd

Babbitt

Kediheng

Silictec

Sinolink Securites

Coinlink

Coinnest

SwftCoin

Jiangsu Zhongke Internet of Things Technology Venture Capital Co., Ltd.

Fujian ST Electronics co., Ltd.

Foshan Haichen Technology co., Ltd.

Xiamen Aerolite Technology co., Ltd.

Can't /Biz/ ban Walton threads it's clearly a scam that is copying VeChain new investors might get duped and lose their money. Walton shillers should be ashamed peddling people to buy your bags, if you hold walton don't be deluded VeChain is going to be bigger than bitcoin in less than a year every Ven thread says so and we have billionaires backing us up but everytime we make a Ven thread you Walton fudder ruin everything FUCK Walton

My coin is good your coin is bad - i sold at peak.. fuck you... I bought at dip 5 seconds before the moon... this board gets so tiring...

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>>7602881

Same faggot trying to fud, paid shill or just complete idiot?

fucken walter coin retards. both ven and walter are going to be massive. deal with it. best thing to do is hold nodes in both and be rich AF twice. stop being retarded walters.

Check out TRAC. Much better alternative, they've been developing the project since 2013.

origintrail.io

>>7605236
fuck outta here with your garbage, i'd buy walton over that shit.

>>7605178
you're the same faggot shitting up every VeChain thread since November

>>7602843
how many coins for a masternode?

>>7605012

I've highlighted all of your posts - dude, you a fucking insane. You're having autistic rage over this coin!

Walton is fucking legit, and I'll be glad to see you fomo in when it hits 3 figures each, which with it's stupidly low supply, will be very easy