/biz/ - Business & Finance

Speculate and accumulate if you believe it’s going up. or cut losses and sell a portion to gaymers.

>>7598865
>red id
dude you fucked up, my friend has a few rigs making him 2000$+ a month after electricity that he built for 8000$.

>>7598865
Hold the coins and keep mining for a few months. You'll regret freaking out and stopping when the next bull run happens.

>and it will happen.

>>7598865
Keep doing it for 1 year. then sell your assets... = profit

>>7598865
How did 25 1080ti’s cost 30k?

>>7598941
BUY HIGH

>>7598865
I'll give you $3k for your cards

>>7598941

He probably also rewired his home to handle the electricity

>>7598905
Lies

>>7598865
So you're making at least 1500$ worth of eth a month? Just go back to work for a couple of months, shove all that eth into cold storage, wait for price to spike to pay off the rig. Then you have passive income, and a big as eth wallet.
also, the fuck, did you not do research at all? how did you not know the rate of return?

>>7598988
Ill give you 5k.

>>7598990
25 1080ti’s is 3500 Watts on Ethash. That’s two circuit breakers.

>>7598941
25x1000usd gpu
8x230usd psu
4x motherboard
4xcpu
4x 8gb ddr4
4x ssd
bunch or risers, vents, cables, rig building holy shit maybe its even more than 30k

>>7598905
how?

Am I super retarded or what? wjat the fuck am I doing wrong? Amd cards are better? miningpoolhub sucks? my roi is above 1 year, without diff increase. I feel sick.

>>7598995
oh shit ur right. Well he got 24 rx580s for just under 5000$. a month ago profitability was 2800$ mining eth+pasc. Right now it's about 1500$ a month. still good. 3000$ for 4 computers is p shit tho.

>>7598865
>25 1080ti earns me less or around 80 usd per day.
Thats .02666*% a day of the initial investment. I earn more than that trading off stupid memelines. You could of mined plebbit Garlicoin and earnt far more than that

>>7598865
>Help me biz I fucked up bigtime. I invested 30k into mining and I earned 2500 usd in 40 days. Its not even pure profit because I have to pay 600usd for elecricity bill. Just wtf??!?

>25 1080ti earns me less or around 80 usd per day.
>4-3,5 usd per card on average on the best multi algo pool: miningpoolhub with the best multi algo switching app: multipoolminer.

>Im so fucking sad. I took out loans and left my job for this.

>what should I do? What am I doing wrong? help me biz, fucking help me please

What you're doing wrong is taking a loan. Cryptocurrency is about getting free from the jews. You fucked up in that way.

>>7599111
I think your problem is you paid 1k for 1080tis. That ROI won’t be good.

>>7598865
man, you suck at mining.

I bought x6 RX VEGA 56's and was making $80 a day, that was a $3000 investment.

Its down now to $25 a day due to everything crashing, but for a good 2-3 months it was around $80.

If this shit actually recovers to where it was at in december I will be back to $80 a day

>>7599111
>4x 8gb ddr4
you dont need 8gb of ram to run 1080i's, nor do you need a SSD. you should of done more research

>>7598941
1080ti's mooned, plus you need to buy PSU's, RAM, motherboards, risers, ect. (all of which have also mooned) not to mention fans, wattage meters, and frames. shit adds up. all in all though OP should stick with it for at least a year, go back to work if need be.

>>7599111
no, you overspent retard. GTX 1080tis cost 700$ msrp dumbass. 25 cards means 4 computers, you spend about 500$ per computer and you're fine. You FOMOd in when gpu prices were absolutely at the top. Guess what, amd cards are far better miners for msrp, and amd is releasing another batch in a month. You're retarded, hell nvidia will be releasing volta cards probably mid q2 for similar nvidia msrp prices but they mine 2-3x better. You fucked up idiot.

>>7599027
>also, the fuck, did you not do research at all? how did you not know the rate of return?
whattomine show me 4000-6000usd income for 20 1080tis. I got scammed. every forum was full of fomo and lies. I tought I am going to make smart investments but right now I feel dumb...

>>7599174
and he will be at like 250$ a day by that point.

>>7599126
He must have gotten the 4gb then and not the 8gb,because I've been buying the 8gbs and the returns aren't worth it even at 31mh\s

>>7599111
you fucked up being 1080tis for so much. You should of bought a bunch of rx vegas when they were $400. They were pulling $13 a day after electric when things were high.

>>7599111
>Amd cards are better?
final thing because i missed it. Yes AMD cards are objectively better at mining. However they run hotter. IIRC nVidia runs around 50-60*c right? My AMDs run at 80*c undervolted with the fan just above idle around 45% fan speed

>>7599213
he got 7 nitro + rx580 8gbs and an assortment of other rx580s

>>7599202
As someone who fell for the mining meme last year, stop measuring returns in dollars and stick with it. Next moon you will be so fucking happy. It may take a few months though.

>>7599175
actually, if you are mining with VEGA cards and using HBCC, you actually do need ram, like atleast 16gb, performance goes up even more at 32gb. Basically HBCC turns your ram into extra video memory. If you are mining monero it matters

>>7599215
I heard Vegas we're just good for xmr

>>7598865
mine to accumulate a coin you think will moon, not to make daily profits

>>7599256
Nah. You use virtual memory and a SSD.

>>7599237
turn up your fan wtf anything over 70c is suboptimal and will shorten the life of the card. it would literally be better to have your fan at 100% and replace the bearings in 2 years than it would be to run it at 45% and burn out the card instead.

ITT newfags panic about a bad mining month

Will be glad to buy those 180s for 500 bucks each

>>7599275
cryptonote in general
I mined 2M turtles for the kekess

>>7598865
But yeah OP just noticed you paid 1k for 1080s lmao, next gpu gen is around the corner

>>7599328
fan speed is set to auto. AMDs have higher operating temps

>>7598865
if it is not profitable you can still sell those GPUs for higher price than you bought them I think there is huge shortage at least in europe

>>7598865
Tell me; how can you not so any research on ROI???? Dont tell me you simply swallowed whatever you Read online... Next time put everything in excel and do your own calculations.

My advice for you is to set Up so you can mine every altcoin so you can swap to whatever yields the most, and go back to work. Mining is a long term investment.

You can also mine 80%of ROI and sell all the gpus/replace them. Thus increasing yields and keeping the rig going.

>>7599415
I have an AMD rig, highest card is at 68 and my ventilation sucks. You should turn up those fans.

>>7598865
if you think you should get the cards that can get the most $/day when you're trying to go into profit you're retarded. you're looking for cards that will break even the fastest, and you've possibly literally picked the worst current-gen card on the market for that. RX 580s are the way my man.

Don't you think you're completely fucked, though! If you're mining ETH you're probably in the good, right now, and if you aren't, then start mining it, because when the next bull-run hits, you'll be so glad you did,

>>7598865
>mining for 40 days
The value of you cards almost doubled since you bought them. Stop fucking crying and sell the rig if youre too much of a pussy to believe in crypto

>>7599459
this. I set max temp to 70C and undervolt to 0.9
Depends on algo though, cryptonight runs at 45C, ethhash at 65C and heavy algos like neo/lyra at 70C

>>7599459
>>7599505
cheers ill crank up the fans

>>7599215
>you fucked up being 1080tis for so much. You should of bought a bunch of rx vegas when they were $400.
I tried but banks gave me the middle finger. Took me 2 months to get the money and guess what, vegas were sold out. Now they are selling above 1000usd.

Also I tought 1080ti is the king in mining. Are 1080tis really suck ass? is 1000usd for a 1080ti too much??

>>7599200
i hope you are fudding hard. there is no way new nvidia cards are coming out this fast and they cant be 2x-3x times better. I hope they cant be...

>>7599237
>However they run hotter. IIRC nVidia runs around 50-60*c right
big ass 3 slot 1080tis are under 60c with 70-65% fanspeed and shit room cooling.

my small zotacs are hot as hell. 65% tdp, 80% fanspeed, buch of vents, windows are open, fucking winter and they are still above 70c.

>>7599252
I hope you are right.

>>7599545
It's not just the fans. You have nvidea so I supose you set max power output to 65%, right?

i have a vega 54 and recommendations on settings for ethash?

>>7598865
The 1180ti's are coming out next month for $799 and will be twice as powerful. Can't believe you bought the physical bags.

>>7598865
Why on Earth would you buy 1080 Ti's for mining....

I built several rigs this time last year of RX580s that I bought for $209 a piece. They're each getting about 30 MH/s, which is faster than my desktop 1080 by a good margin.

>>7598865

>>7599636
vega is not for ethhash
You need to bios mod with the 64 bios btw

>>7599648
>Why on Earth would you buy 1080 Ti's for mining....
dunno, I was researching hard but looks like the internet lied to me. again.

rx 580s are around 4-500usd atm and whattomine makes them look like shit compared to 1080tis. Also I live in euroshit. Prices here are higher and there are gpu shortages for 2months

>>7599740
yeah i gathered that but was wondering if there were any settings or whatever to see if it could end up being useful outside of crptonight

>>7599648
Mining eth is literally one of the worst options right now

>>7599774
Last month 1070 x7 was making 50/day, 5x vega 64 making 60/day and rx (200mh) was making 30-40 each rig

>>7599805
meaning 470s/570s/580s are best for consistent roi, but vegas will give you 100/day some days

>>7598865
>what should I do? What am I doing wrong? help me biz, fucking help me please

The price more then halved retard. That is why your profits are so low at the moment.

I was going to get into mining when the btc price was about 16k. A 1080ti was making about 10-11usd back then. Now its less then half of that.

IMO its only worth mining if the BTC price is at least 10-12k.

>>7598865
you are pretty much me except I've only got 16 1080ti's. make sure you are throttling their power limits to reduce your electric costs. just mine and hold. I'm mining zclassic for the fork, after that i dont know yet. just look at people who were mining litecoin back in the day making dozens of fucking litecoins with their gpus. if they had just kept mining and holding and wagecuck to pay the electric and credit card bills and keep fucking grinding away how fucking rich are they today. learn to maximize efficiency and squeeze every dollar. research new shitcoins to jump on and mine early before others find out. you can do it anon, don't give up.

my advice would be to install Gentoo you;ll get better overheads and reduced feed stalls. which for miing coins is the most importatn

>>7599835
but rx prices are really crazy in the past 2 months.
without fud, are my 1080tis suck ass?

I dont think we will get new nvidia cards soon and if we do why would they sell them under 1000 if people are still paying 1200 for an 1080ti?

>>7598865
buy High, sell Low :^)

coiners btfo

The only way to win the game is not to play

>>7599910
wish you luck mate. Im holding but bags are getting heavy...
>>7599912
im going to believe in what you said bc you are a tripfag. please tell me more. are my cards suck ass?

>>7599643
>next month
gr8b8m8, try next year

lets say hypothetically you have lots of taxable crypto gains (100k+).

is it worth it to start a mining business for the tax benefits? (depreciation, section 179 capital asset, steady w2 income)

>>7599791
Maybe 40mh, my 64s get 48 mh

>>7598865
WHY WOULD YOU TAKE ON DEBT AND THEN LEAVE YOUR FUCKING JOB


YOU LAZY FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
YOU SHOULDA KEPT WORKING AND SET UP YOUR MINING OP IN YOUR FREE TIME

YOU SHOULDA BOUGHT NON TI CARDS AND OVERCLOCKED THEM, YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT YOUR SHIT IN A SHIPPIBG CONTAINER SO YOU COULD HAVE IT MOVED TO WHERE RUNNING COSTS ARE CHEAPEST

JUST JUMP SHIP SELL EVERYTHING AND GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN

>tfw you invested in 1080s and cashed out
heh

>>7599938
relax, you will get your money back multiple times
Just try to sell them before the 20xx come out. They will probably be under hype, because vegas had an announced 100mh hashrate kek

>>7599583
Titan V gets 82mh/s. gtx 1080ti gets about 34. Titan V has volta architecture, the next gen gaming volta cards which are expected anywhere from late Q1 to late Q2 will likely follow the titan V but be a little less powerful, but far more affordable. Expect 60mh/s minimum for a 700$ card.

>>7600123
>crypto
>taxes
Pick one, are you retarded?

>>7600357
that's still shit considering a 250$ 470 gets 30
But yeah OP, dump them before this comes out, because gaymers will be cut off your dump supply

Holy shit, I thought I was late getting to mining last May.

>>7599583
the zotacs are bad. The fans on mine died quick and made the cards overheat. Not die but the bearings dry out quick, keep an eye on it

I have been wanting to get into mining. I will be getting an 8000 dollar bonus in a month. Is this enough to get a good starter rig going?

>>7598865

Fuck sake OP. You mine to accumulate coins for next years pump. Guy I know made 600k mining monero at low difficulty and selling the December top. Then repeat with a new low difficulty coin. Hold for a year etc.

Not hard, stick with cryptonote coins. Electroneum or Sumo are the best for this year. Intensecoin is longer term but will be huge.

>>7599186
>all of which have also mooned
This is how Sears Roebuck got rich off the 1869 gold rush, selling shovels

>>7601168
yeah let me just set up a billion dollar company to make graphics cards, or many millions designing an ASIC miner for coins that might not be around in several months.

>>7599328
Do you know how much someone would charge me to replace all my fans?
We are talking about 50x2 fans.

>>7600898
It all depends on boys prices anon...

>>7601560
20$ fans vs expensive as fuck graphics cards

>>7600898
You can get 2 good rigs for that at current prices
You can get 4 of them if you get old priced gpus. There are still some in my country, that's why I got my rigs for cheap. Im talking 200 bucks rx470

>>7601613
I do keep my fans running high all the time (70-95%). I'm just curious if there is anyone willing to spend a day changing fans

>>7598865

Dude Stop thinking crypto, read up on counterfactual regret minimization algorithems. Learn to programm or get someone to programm.

Baisiclly you can get your rig running as a pokerbot playing near-perfect nash-equillibrium poker on pokerstars.

$$$ PROFIT

>>7601657
you could do it yourself and cut costs a lot. But this is /biz/ where 90% of the users are sub 100iq. Also how the fuck are those running hot if you're running at 70-95% fan speed? Is it summer where you live? I get 50C with 40% fan speed and it's 10C right now outside, never gets above 35 celcius (cards are running below 70C still in those temps).

>>7598865
I made 10k mining last month with a single GTX 1080. you're mining the wrong coins.

>>7599800
not true in the slightest

>>7598865
>The average cryptonigger is unironically this stupid

Can't make this shit up

>>7598865
Get fucked.

>>7602011
no you didn't

Soon mining will be at a lose when ETH moves to POS in conjunction with the rising prices of GPUs, if it isn't already if you are starting now.

>>7601967
I get different values when checking temps in the blockchain drivers and the console values.
They aren't what I consider hot though, at 65C

>>7602696
No one mines eth anymore you fucking newfag

>>7599774
1080s are fine for mining, it just depends on what you are trying to crunch .

>>7598865
Did you look up underclocking guides to get the best balance between electricity usage and performance.

>>7598865
>I have to pay 600usd for elecricity bill.

Don't forget to pay your taxes too for that 600 dollariinos

>>7602770
65C is perfectly fine I think. All GPUs have diff temp values that are acceptable. I think R9 290xs can take up to 80C completely fine, although I've never went above mid 70s with them.

Another idea is getting some 7950s and mining zcash or ethhash with low dag sizes. They are inexpensive for 24mh/s. Be careful though I'd buy one at a time just to test it out at first since dag fucked these cards hard.

I don't really understand what your problem is.
You're set to pay off your loans within 2 years through the profits of your venture.
What the fuck did you expect to happen?

>>7603024
Only a top tier cuck would pay taxes on mining coins

>>7600371

>take it out in real money, instead of keeping the memcoins as you can't buy shit with them
>durrr you don't have to pay taxes

good luck with IRS

>>7603113

lel, enjoy your prison time.

>>7599153

>>7603072
I'm going to get 460s/560s since they still haven't got much attention. I think 15mh for 40w is very good

Why would you even buy ti's? They're marginally better than regular cards and way more expensive. Seems like you didn't do much research before hand.

Sell those cards. Maybe now they cost a little more. Start mining LTC. Sorry mate but that wasn't the time to buy GPU for mining. 2 years ago they used to cost 230 usd. And ETH @130... And worst is ETH will be adopting POS. So..... Sell them at tje best price you can reach.

>>7603415
>>7603327
t. know nothing about mining

>>7598865
>he unironically fell for the mining meme
holy shit how brainlet are you? ETH won't even be mineable soon

>>7603430
>mining eth

>>7603250
you can expect around 13mhs for a bios mod and 50W. And trust me, they're expensive as fuck now. 7950s cost the same, use 3x more energy, but mine almost 2x as good.

>>7603582
I haven't recieved my 7950 yet, but my friend gets 24.x mh/s in ethhash. I don't know what he gets in ethereum specifically though, I think 11 though considering DAG size.... RX 560s may honestly be the best option right now. Try to get the ones with 1024 stream processors.

>>7598865
What coin are you mining?

>>7603190
>>7599999

Does anybody make rigs using actual cases, or is it a heat thing?

>trying to mine when you could just buy 30,000 XRB

>>7602011
Please share with me how you find these coins to mine? I have 6x 1080 Ti's paid off that I've been wanting to point at shitcoins, but I'm not sure where to start.

>>7598865
>I took out loans and left my job for this
WTF

>>7603914
Yeah I wouldn't recomend cases unless it's specific for mining.
Still a dumb thing to do considering air flow is allways better in an open frame

I also want my rigs to look like futuristic servers so normies think I'm some kind of wizard

>>7604095
turtlecoin would be a good start

>>7604159
Where do you find these new coins though?

larpers in a larp thread

>>7599455
>Tell me; how can you not so any research on ROI???? Dont tell me you simply swallowed whatever you Read online... Next time put everything in excel and do your own calculations.

and don't do best case scenario, do worst case so you know what to realistically expect. OPs are suck dumbasses.

>>7599202
LMAO every forum has been saying since fucking July not to do exactly what you did poorfags gonna poorfag

Let me guess you mined Ethereum the whole time? These are the fucks that wreck profits for the average chad with a gaming PC.

If you're gonna chase daily profits at least trade for coins that could moon once in a while

>>7598865
gas urself kike for ruining gaming industry

>>7598865

Hopefully you burn to death with your rigs

Ok but for real if you're gonna mine with 1080 Tis at least mine on algos that they do well on - probably neoscrypt / equihash coins. Even some pajeet online calculator has you at over $100 a day right now on normie coins

>>7598865
i'll buy your 1080 ti's off you... give me your contact info and i'll hit you up

Do you guys really think OP isn't the same larping weirdo posting bait threads every day? He just makes up a new retarded OP every day to troll you idiots. Nobody is this stupid.

>>7599111
>1000usd gpu
i'll buy 2 for 800 if you're selling

>>7603881
Hej pa dig monika

>>7598865
post proof or this is a larp. Why did you quit your job? If you made 5k in 40 days I dont see how you wouldnt have the same complaints.

>>7604287
/biz/

>>7604557
>has never met a coiner

>>7601801
shoo shoo pajeet

>>7604336
>literally too poor to even consider buying 7x 580s

>>7604423
>>7604450
this looks like /v/ now lmao, I hope these gamekiddies kill themselves soon

Hey guys I'm interested in getting into crypto mining, looks like this guy went about it the wrong way, which is not what I want to do.

What's the minimum starting rig I should put together to make a profit? I can save that money and use it to expand.

>>7599053
its not - i have 15k on one. please stfu

>>7601560
wow, what is that? Are you making profit from this? This is very interesting to me, you guys just set up muscle computers to run their calculations and you get cryptocurrency in return.

Is one whole coin rewarded at once? Like bitcoin, for example, one guy gets one whole coin and everyone else who was working on that get nothing?

>>7601801
>>7604703
Lmao you can literally read this with the accent

>>7604865
Wow you went straight from facebook to 4chan?
Look up reddit/mining and fuckoff my board

>>7604865

>>7604700
Coiners aren't getting in the game by mining now lmao.

>>7604704
Nobody is "getting into mining" with 30k USD right now. kys

>>7604951
I've been on 4chan since 2007 but ok

>>7605082
forgot pic related

>>7605082
Lol.. I don't think anyone including me is going to believe you there.. Unless all we did was teach you how to be even dumber then before. Sell all of that and INVEST numand

>>7604736
Pretty much, you can buy any card and it will eventually pay for itself. The ROI is what you are really asking...

>>7603250
>I'm going to get 460s/560s since they still haven't got much attention. I think 15mh for 40w is very good

It's not that great, but this can work if u get those new mobos that can hold 12 cards.

>>7604794
you have 15k watts on one circuit?

>>7605282
try 19

OP I will buy 3 cards for 0.17 BTC.

>>7605386
Fuck even better then

>>7602791
Why? whats the best thing to mine nowadays?

>>7599111
>miningpoolhub sucks?
correct

>>7605386
yea thats what i use. the asus b250 mining expert. problem is in order to get it to run all 19 cards you actually have to buy 6 mining gpus. for some reason it wont register those slots with anything else.

>>7605835
what would you recommend for Zcash?

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Keep grinding bro. As prices increase you'll roi sooner. That's how it works. Just make sure to cash out on highs.

Just put them on nicehash and get a job. It's passive income, not your job. Take 15% and put it in a seperate account for taxes.

>>7598865
You didn't do your research. Allow me to break down a couple of things.
>1080 ti's barely get a better hashrate than 1070s and have higher power consumption
>You need to tweak your GPUs to lower your power consumption and improve performance
>Mining is a long term thing, you would have gotten a 100% return on your investment in little over a year
>You shouldn't have quit your job, mining should be seen as supplementary
>You shouldn't have taken a loan to build a mining rig if you need immediate cash, see above
>You may make even more profit depending on what coin you're mining and how its value fluctuates

>>7605898
I heard this too, but I was under the impression you can still fit 13 without the mining ones.

>>7598865
This is what you cryptoniggers get for hiking GPU prices.

just use nicehash, its actually the best ive tested them all

Can you cryptokikes chill with the 1080 ti purchasing? I'm trying to make a good VR computer but it'll end up costing thousands for a 2x 1080 ti setup. Cryptocurrency is a real pitchfork up the ass for pretty much all PC usage, especially with the mining software being used maliciously and the price hiking. Fuck you guys, seriously.
And yes, I'm mad.

>>7603914
My computer I'm tying on now has 3 1080tis mining in this case. Looks cool and easy to blow out all the dust.

But for a big time operation you need the airflow. I almost went big time and upgraded the electric to the garage and bought 10x 4u rackmount chassis.

>>7607417
>>7606870
>>7604423

The absolute state of gaymers.

Don't think that because OP is an eurotard every miner is getting fucked.

I was about too buy a bunch of 1080ti too before the price hike, I'm saving now for the 2080s if you think last years have been bad for gaymers you just wait when even normies and boomers start to dump money on it again.

GPUs have better more productive lives on mining rigs. Gaming only wastes your time.

Ask around how many faggots missed the cryptotrain for being gaming from 2013 onwards.

We are doing you a favor.

Rate my setup, have more gpus just waiting on another psu

>>7607818
you're right. thanks for pumping so much money into amd/nvidia i can't wait to see how far that takes their R/D along with memory manufacturers as well (samsung hynix etc) the more money you faggots pump into this shit the faster your cards will become obsolete so i'm all for it

>>7598865
Anon. Start mining Lux. Keep it all and when it moons you earn a lot. $500 Eoy.

>>7608262
Can you even read faggot, I sad I WAS ABOUT TO, I never bought them. Because only retards buy outdated tech 40% above MSRP.

Volta R/D sure as fuck was paid by miners, and it shows. And everytime you see the tech you'll remember THAT TECH WAS PAID BY US

Now nVidia goes to cover their asses and pay lipservice to gamers FUDing crypto while laughing all the way to the bank thanks to them.

The gaymer feels vindicated and uppity because the gaymer is generally a beta tier numale in search for ephimeral recognition.

> The absolute state of gaymers (bis)

>>7608668
nvidia made GaaS (fail in fire)

partners quite blatantly dont gaf about customer base as long as people are buying their outdated tech and they're making 400% profits hand over fist

>>7608668
also yes i did read it but not in religiously

>>7608668
Look fag, we just want to enjoy our vidya shit without paying more than what a mortgage payment costs for one piece of hardware. The R&D is great and all, but a 2x 1080 ti setup easily takes care of any VR or 4K game. At this point, all I can do is hope that crypto either fails or skyrockets to the point where 1080's are essentially useless to miners so I could pick up a couple for a reasonable price, but that's probably not going to happen anytime soon thanks to you hardware hoarding homos.

>>7608963
>>7609010

Found the article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-09/nvidia-joins-amd-in-crypto-gold-rush-as-mining-boosts-results

Also dat pic unnironically got me moist.

>>7609061
Whats stoppping you from buying a full PC with dual cards and then selling the rest? Not our fault PC vendors forgot how to marketing shit.

Theres cheap cards everywhere in the world, in countries where mining is not a thing, even with shipping, for 1 or 2card, you can get a reasonable price.

But no, it's all miner's fault you are literally 12yo that can't figure this shit out. Right?

Were you not watching the market?

I was planning out a rig in Nov/Dec. I HODL'd my cash through Jan watching mining stats each day. I ended up buying ONE Vega 56 GPU purely to play around with mining and OpenCL (devfag).

Basically in Dec mining profits looked like a sure thing with a 4-5 month ROI. Now they suck with a 1 year or worse ROI.

Sell all your equipment at a slight loss or HODL your equipment praying for a market turn.

>>7609152
>Whats stoppping you from buying a full PC with dual cards and then selling the rest?
The fact that they cost 3,000+ dollars, you fuckhead. I don't know where you're pulling this idea that you can buy a 1080ti for close to MSRP anywhere. It's just not happening—even the most sketchy ass craigslist ad I can find for a used 1080 ti is 800 dollars. I just want to buy a card without risking buying broken shit or getting stabbed. If you do know a source of 1080 ti's for a fair price, I would appreciate you sharing it, because all I'm finding is a free ass-fucking in a ghetto alley.

>>7609198
you're going to keep your old cards praying that nvidia and amd won't release a new line better at mining then the last and difficulty goes even higher?

I've unironically spent 40k+ on mining in the last 3 months. Pic related. I have spreadsheets with every single GPU and mining related item I've bought. The biggest regret were the ASICS. I bought 2 S9s 3 months ago, just got them today and their making less than half of what I was expecting.

>>7609404
>spent on business card
kek

>>7609436
*****
am retarded wrong post
>>7609507

>>7598865
Youre retarded. Do your research you fucking pleb. you deserve to be in the position youre in.

>>7598865
Crypto is down in price therefore you're making less mining profits anon, obviously

Just keep mining faggot and HODL and wait for the next bull run. Don't worry about it you pathetic little cuck

Also get your job back

>>7605835
why does it suck?

>>7608668
Man get those garbage gigabyte 1060s out of here. 1070 or bust. That;s some sloppy ziptie work too you could really clean up that setup

>>7598865
Why are you mining with nivida and not AMG u faggot. Nvidia is better with floating point ops and therefore is better for simulations and gaming while AMG is better with integer and therefore much more efficient to mine with.

>>7609683

Are you serious OP?!!!

If so, holy shit. You dun goofed. Sell your shit NOW and move the fuck on.

Mining is usually not profitable and requires research and specialized equipment, not just any old graphics card.

>>7609614
lol those are not mine, those are from /biz/ stock collection of mining rigs. I sold mine (10x1080s) before 1080ti launched.

I made a killing and dropped that into VTC@19K sats and thetered on the massive moon -those are the savings- I'm waiting to get back in if crypto ever recovers.

Because I knew that what happened to OP was gonna happen to me. Even when I had already ROI'd.

I lost a couple good mining seasons but I'm sure I'll make that up buying this dips, right?

>>7610106
Let's see those cheap 1080ti sources you were talking about.

>>7610237
You think anyone sane would share his source of +5% MSRP TIs?

And you would not buy them because muh niggers soo DYOR, this is no different than buying real coins.

> Sell the news

>>7610390
You honestly think I haven't looked around just about everywhere? According to your own posts you don't even have any TI's and sold your 1080's back in 2016 at the latest, when the prices were still sane. You're full of shit and you know it. Back up your claim or pull your dick out of your ass.

>he fell for the mining meme
you'll get more money off ethpyramid than mining

Get cuck, mining fag. Gtx is for gaming

Mine electroneum and zencash

>>7609818
the fuck you talking about mining isn't profitable??

>>7609436
I almost fell for the S9 meme too. I'm glad I didn't

>>7610390
>>7610390
Also:
>I was about too buy a bunch of 1080ti too before the price hike
>You think anyone sane would share his source of +5% MSRP TIs?
Which one is it, fag? Shut the hell up if you aren't going to keep things real. Maybe you haven't realized, but right now you're projecting your own desire for ephemeral recognition onto 'numale gaymers' while claiming to be a holier-than-thou crypto miner. Don't bother sharing or replying because I know whatever you share would just be lies at this point anyway.

>He doesn't mine with ASIC

>>7598865
Literally email me and I’ll buy your stupid GPUs.

s@lambdal.com

I won’t pay full price but you can recoup some of your costs.

>>7598865
Mine cheeper coins and pray they moon. That is the only way.

>>7611276
1000usd / piece. no blower coolers, only good brands, 3 and 5 years of warranty. take it or leave.
>>7609436
how is it working out for you? the past 3 month were good if you sold in time.
>>7606255
>1080 ti's barely get a better hashrate than 1070s and have higher power consumption
sure mate, in some algos they are exactly 30% better and they cost 30% more. its a fair deal.

Also you niggers act like only only one algo matters.

Once and for all: are 1080tis good or not? on paper they are the best. yeah if you got 400usd vegas 3months ago then yes, you did well mate, no one can beat that but right now 1080tis are above 1100usd in price and they are out of stock everywhere.

Also Im pretty sure the new branch of nowhere near and even if new cards come in the next 6months they will be out of stock in a week.

And what makes you think nvidia is not going to price them above the 10x series?

Also fuck you gaymers.

>>7611107
do you know that you wont be able to ROI in 5 days right?

sell them and stop fucking the price on pc parts please

>>7611107
order one now, pay forward and you will get one in 5 months.

by the time you get one 10000s of obelisks will be online and mining in china.

Yeah this is a new asic for a a gpu only algo, its going to increase the value of the shitcoin but still risky. the company can exit scam on you anytime or tell you you have to wait another year for your miner.

Also warranty times are laughable 3months at best and no return policy means they can dump shit on you anytime.

>>7604989
I really , really like this banana

>>7598865
>1080s
1200$ a month is enough to live by but I guess you're living in a shitty expensive place. This is like 40% yearly roi what are you complaining about.

>>7604423
You're too poor to game, stick with consoles you poor fag.

>>7610507
1080tis were launched in 2017 try again. I'm not sure but maybe VTC wasn't a thing in 2016 also.

>>7610894
>>7610237
> Classic gaymer needs to be spoonfeed
Go to nVidia/AMD page
Change region to Latin america/ Africa if any
Scrub dealers and resellers in each/random country
Visit their webs, see list prices or make calls
Hint that you can even pay em in crypto
Get discount even.
Pray you are not getting cucked so document everything.

Crafty chinese fabworkers are already taking "orders" on 2080s, miningwhales already know when those are going to hit the market. I'd focus on that date, then fags like OP will drop those 1080ti like nothing

>>7599111
You spent 30K on about 11K worth of equipment good job.

>>7612527
I've never understood why so many gamers are mad about the prices. when there are graphics cards that keep up with those if overclocked in terms of Video use but are shit for mining. And these cards are relatively cheap.

>>7612630
you are stupid and an ugly fuckface. spread fud elsewhere nigger. Quality 1080tis were 800usd before the mining craze and now are 1100usd.

25x200 will make no big difference.
Also psu prices are skyrocketing the same way. Kind of 200-300usd lost there too.

You can no longer buy vegas for 400usd.

Yes, if you did and could buy them in bulk you made nr1 business because no one wanted them when they came out first. They are shit for gaming and there are only refference cards
on the market. The supply is shit from the start and only mining saved amd from the ugly because if it wasnt mining then no one would buy them in the first place.

Also there are literally no places on the interwebz where you can buy a vega under 900-1000usd. 56/64 they go woth the same shitty price tag.

For some reason people are buying every 1080ti they can find...
1000usd is not a good price, yeah. But its not horrible.

You fuckers forget 1080ti is the flagship of gpu market for almost 2 years now.
>hurr durr titam iksp

>>7598865
Haha serves you right, faggot. Hope you get completely broke and end up on the streets you lazy shit

>>7613183
2 big macs please

>>7598865

1900$ / 40 days = ~47.5$/day

30k/47.5 = ~632 days = ~91 weeks = 1 year + ~9 months = by October 2019 you'll start earning money.

You're not doing wrong - except being deluded that if someone invests 30k gets rich overnight.

(it would be quite different if you invested those 30k in 2011, but I understand that people jumped into cryptomining only *after* mainstream media obsessively talked about Hurr Durr Get Rich Overnite Muh Crypto).

I mined eth for a couple of hours with my 1070. Calculated that I'd have to mine for 40 days straight to earn $8 and it would take six years to pay off the graphics card alone (excluding power which would put me at a loss). I have no clue how people believe they can make money on mining when you have to be super ultra efficient just to earn pennies and it gets worse over time. Sure you can speculate on the price increase on top of everything, but you also will have hardware faults and your at home mining rig won't be insured, etc...

Very dangerous.

>>7613405
Yeah you're a brainlet, back when I was mining normal coins I was getting around $4 a day on a 1070, maybe it's less now that the markets down

>>7599111

>1000usd gpu

top kek

buy 1000 dollar nvidia card for mining on a loan

you dun goofed

Ayyyymd all day bby

$200-$300 gpus making $2-$3 a day is where its at...

with the waaay overpriced GPU prices right now youd have to be kinda retarded to go big...

i paid $190 for 570's a couple months ago, and made some more rigs a couple weeks ago at $300... shits still making $2-$3 per card per day... and i could probably sell the card now at $350 for instant profit

>>7609152

Nvidia and AMD would be suicidal to cater to miningfags. Because then their business becomes as lucrative as bitcoin. So if bitcoin goes under, so do they. That’s why this year’s releases will leave miners out in the cold. Selling to gamers is a little less revenue, but it’s guaranteed revenue.

>>7613565
and im completly ok with that because im not a jelly faggot. you mining and profitable? happy for you.

also you are increasing the value of the crypto market by a fraction of a fraction. Maybe its not even measruable but you increase it.

just like me. I wouldnt be mad at all if my 1080ti would make atleast 2 times what you 570s are making but fucking no. Not even 5usd per day and im pretty sure multipoolminer or miningpoolhub fucks me over. Or I got completly rekt by lies and false expectations.
An 1000usd gpu should be making atleast 5usd per day, no matter what.
With 25 1080 tis im making 0,65 zcl a day and its declining with each day. total bs. the market is increasing and Im getting the same crap revenue. If zcl is under 80usd Im getting 0,8-9 a day. If zcl is 120usd im getting 0,6 per day. If its going to be 400usd am I going to get 0,1 or what? I tought with multi algo mining you can mine almost the same ammount of coins every day, no matter what. mine always the most profitable shit, auto exchange it for a small 0,2% fee or something and thats it. I should be making 0,9 zcl a day and I would behappy about it but the moment the market is increasing I get the same value but in less coins. This is bs. Tell me why. This makes no sense. And yes. I wanted ti build cheap rx rigs but amd cards were super overpriced, just like now. 500usd for a shitty rx 580? wtf.
Thats why I tought I will go full kingpin and go with 1080ti. I converted my buy in prices from euro to usd and it looks like I paid around 930usd per card and thats not bad in euroshitland. The most expensive ones were 965usd.

>>7598865
lmfao Jesus fucking Christ anon. 30k could have bought you sweet fucking portfolio instantly ytf take the risk of mining in this day and age smdh?

Sorry bud you're fucked. Best thing to do would be sell all the hardware you've bought and just buy up crypto with whatever you get for them.

I am so happy you fucked up. you shitfaces bought all the cards and now everything is 3x the price....

>>7599037
5.5k

>>7598865
why the fuck you invest $30k if its gonna take you like 2 years to recover your initial investment?

you'd be better off just buying BTC or ETH and holding for 2 years.

>>7613927
>30k could have bought you sweet fucking portfolio
in nov, dec? yes. fucking sweet. but I got in in january. That would mean my portfolio would be -60% by now. But I tought buying Top grade hardware is less risky and gives me a safety net if I fuck up something and make shitty investments because a month later I will have atleast 3k worth of crypto to reinvest.

90% of my investments has good resale value bc they are good for gamers. Good quality 1080tis, gaming mobos, 8gb decent ddr4 rams, 1000w platinum psus.

Only the g4400 cpu and the 120gb ssd is king of garbage but I bought these items for 60usd/item. And maybe no gamer needs big ass 1600w evga psus but I will keep those gladly.

So if I invest 30k in crypto in january I would have 15k by now.
But I invested in mining so the value of my stash is still around if not more than 30k usd.

I think I could get out in the -15% - +5% interval right now. Ive got a lil stash of 15zcl, I will wait mine zcl and see what is going to happen eom. If btc rise above 10k I think I can sell my stash for atleast 4-5k usd. If btc dies again then no more than 1500usd.

Also I took out 15k in loans the rest is from pocket. I wanted to get another loan from a family member and he told me he can give me 10k in 2 weeks but Im not sure anymore...

Another 8 gigabyte aorus extreme 1080ti is waiting for me in a warehouse and they are 960usd/gpu. You cant get these cards for this price anymore, especially not in europe.

>>7613951
fuck off kid.

>>7602271
lol u must be new to mining

>>7601657
why cant you set up a garage fan by them and have it blow on them. one of those $200 garage fans that kicks out some serious draft

>>7613518
Ok you're right I added a zero too much, I'd need about 6 days for $8 which puts me at roughly 11 months of mining to pay the $450 I paid for the card without electricity but since I live in Germany the average kw/h costs 0.3€, so fuck that shit. It might go twice as fast if I were to mine the flavor of the months shitcoin though, true that or we see some hefty price spikes to unload accumulated coins.

>>7598990
>>7599053
3500 watts is the same as 2 kettles what 3rd world country do you live in

>>7614324
the roi was 6months when I jumped in. ofc I expected btc correction and made my investments accordingly but not even 4usd per card? The numbers are super shit and I dont understand why. Yeah the market is down, yeah maybe the diff is increasing heavily because of retards like me but many times not even 70usd per day? Wtf.

My systems are stable, usually they go atleast 70hours without fail. Some never failed. I use tdps from 65% to 80%. Keep temps under 70. Oc numbers are very very modest. Usually +30-50 core with +250-300mem.

The config is good. What the fuck is the problem?

>>7603327
>marginally better
lol, u dumb

It sounds like your settings are badly optimized. Don't have any tips, because I don't use Nvidia cards. My rx580s are pulling in around $3 a piece at current rates before figuring in electric just for comparison.

>>7615389
Rx580s were under 300 when I got mine btw

>>7598865

You would have made more money opening a cyber cafe

>>7598865
>Oh shit I'm making money slightly slower than expected pls hlp
Mfw.