/biz/ - Business & Finance

CRASH INCOMING

>>7593584
your market is going to collapse under orange hitler and usa will be owned by china

BEAR MARKET CONFIRMED AHHHHHH

>Doubting the bear

Get mauled

You have been calling for a bear market for 8 years now and have never once been right, you're worse than cryptofags, when it comes to getting things right.

Since we have 2 threads can the bears stay in one and the bulls have their own?

Why is nvidia dropping?

simultaneously buying and shorting the s&p 500 to ensure 0% returns minus fees

>>7593613
If US markets crash then the chink's real estate bubble also crashes and their whole economy implodes

>>7593668
bears know no bounds

>>7593630
>>7593632
>DOW up almost 500 points

will you faggots shut up?

reminder to do your patriotic duty and loan the US your money at a low rate. last chance.

Accidentally slept through some nice gains today.

>>7593687
Yeah people always forget about the literal ghost citys in China.

>>7593584
Saved lol

>>7593715
IT'S GOING DOWN AHHHH

BEARS BEARS BEARS

DOWN DOW DOWN
DOWN DOW DOWN

>tfw quietly watching a stock and waiting for the prime moment to buy in

Soon.

>>7593681
Overvalued, needs a correction. Still a solid long term hold though.

front SP500 2700 by settlement today.

>>7593758
Look at this faggot.

>>7593796
Huwhite people are long stocks.

>>7593715
Here is your (you)

>>7593758
no

Some early spasticity happened but everything has settled in to flat patterns now, all around same price as Friday's close. That's fine with me.

Okay, so I am a brainlet when it comes to trading. I understand the vast majority of trading these days is done by algorithms.

Are there any conditions that would cause most or all of the algorithms to start selling off all at once? And I understand that there are breaks to prevent this on a massive scale, but are there theoretical scenarios that wouldn't trip the breaks?

NO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING

MY MONEY IS STILL TRANSFERRING TO MY BROKER

DONT GO UP YET

wow, looks like Bears were wrong again. What a shocker

So we're at "return to normal". Oh boy.

>>7593767
When anon when?
I only buy ETFs at the moment but still want to get them cheap

Why the fuck is Nvidia going down?

>>7593848
They're always wrong. Bears are born losers.

If the market falls a lot in a day, you can count on the fact that it was because some ... entities ... saw stocks go down, got nervous, and decided to sell. Were the entities computers, or humans? Well in some crude sense they were 100 percent computers: If you want to sell a stock, you pretty much go to a computer and push a sell button, or maybe you call your broker and she pushes the sell button. A computer intermediates pretty much every trade. But that is a silly way to think about it, and the opposite is also true: Even if you use a computer algorithm to make the selling decision, instead of just to execute a decision that you made, deep down the computer is only systematizing human behavior. Systematizing the behavior might make it more extreme, or it might make it more rational and disciplined, but it probably won't change the basic behavior much. If you program a computer to sell things when they go down, it is because you want to sell things when they go down. If you didn't have the computer, you'd be selling things when they went down anyway. Why blame the tool?

>>7593841
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash

>>7593841
That is basically what happened last week when the DOW broke its all time record for intraday decline.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>7593848
The week has only begun

>>7593848
Smug anime posting saved the bull

Where's big five negro at?

Those mid teens get further and further away each week :^)

>>7593921
meant for >>7593841

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>>7593841
If the S&P loses 20%, SEC pulls the plug on trading for the day.

>>7593841
vast majority of /biz/ posting is done by algorithms also this is the front line of psych ops

this post was done by an algo

>>7593866
Yeah we're officially past the first sell off and have almost finished exiting the bear trap. Next movements going completely vertical. Dow Jones 33k by mid terms.

Should have bough ATVI instead of KO, thats a nice stable rebound...

>>7593921
>or maybe you call your broker and she pushes the sell button
>she

Who in their right mind would trust a female stock broker or financial adviser?

>>7594057

Probably a Femanon.

>>7593883
Now that would be telling, wouldn't it? I will say that it could be useful to keep an eye on Convergys Corp.

They're putting quite a bit of emphasis on their Apple program at the minute. Think long term.

>>7594040
KO is up like 80 cents today and is still on sale.
Always promote child obesity. Becomes a self perpetuating market.

>>7594057
reminder that virgin soyboys are better hedge fund managers than alpha chads

"We show that high-testosterone hedge fund managers significantly underperform low-testosterone hedge fund managers after adjusting for risk. Moreover, high-testosterone managers are more likely to terminate their funds, disclose violations on their Form ADVs, and display greater operational risk. We trace the underperformance to high-testosterone managers' greater preference for lottery-like stocks and reluctance to sell loser stocks. Our results are robust to adjustments for sample selection, marital status, sensation seeking, and manager age, and suggest that investors should eschew Chad hedge fund managers."

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3100645

>>7594057

But but but.... women will stand up to wall street!! Haven't you seen the statue!?

>>7594172

>>7594266

>>7594266

>>7594266

>>7594379
>>7594282
I don't get it.

>>7594266
>Shadman

The bull just Nutted on the face of all Bears

>>7594407
Don't worry about it, newfriend.

>>7593897

They can't make enough GPUs to meet demand.

>>7594407
its some /v/ thing

>>7594407
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/shadman?full=1

>>7594486
Low volume
Power hour soon. Thatll be the real confirmation

IRBT looks ripe for a bounce in the next couple of days.

>>7594547
Yeah, i'm pretty much waiting for this, been a pretty boring day so far. Not going to buy anything until power hour when RSI starts to drop.

>>7594502
I've been here for over a decade, and knowing this place I probably don't want to know.

>>7594266

50d EMA recross soon.

>>7594618

>>7594591
>over a decade
>doesn't know about the truly iconic shad

Have you been spending all your time on /po/?

>>7594591
It's a dude that draws edgy cartoon porn.

He made porn of his mom once too

>>7594618
>>7594646

>Being a bull

>>7594958
we /NewParadigm/ now

virgin bears need not apply

>>7594531
AMD YES

DOWN DOW DOWN!!!

BOTZ is mooning. see you guys at the moon.

>>7595101
We /permabull/ now faggot, get over it.

>>7595101
Get lost loser.

We're here to make some money.

>>7595101
>bears

>>7595075
Amd will never be a good stock because its nit a good company

Post post-settlement PnL.

>>7595241
DELET THIS

>>7595169
Just checked it out, goddamn is it primed to boom.

>>7593584
>market drops 10%
>billions and billions of badly managed amateur money outflows
>recovers to new ath within a month :D

>>7595315
thx
just bought 100k

Get ready for the chadnormous rally into the close, faggots.

>mu

>>7595419
MU is still a shit stock and hasn't done anything all year

congrats if you bought the dip though

>>7595181
no such thing as perma bull, just like there is no such thing as perma bear.

>>7595419
I believe in MU. But it is going to drop to 40 or below this week.

>>7595456
(((est))) to be ~55+ by next earnings.

>>7595419
>tfw only bought 200 shares when it was at $40

goddamnit, I was waiting to see if it was gonna keep dropping and pick up another 200-400 shares but it looks like I missed the boat now

>>7595366

>>7595419

I’m almost even!

>>7595456
>up 76% this year
>hasn't done shit

>>7595473
Not if the FED rates are nearly 0% and run the whole country on debt and QEs. Obamanomics 101, my man.

Last chance to get into AUY

>>7595511
I'm talking since January

Most of the other tech companies are up at least 10% so far.

>>7595566
moon soon

How much should I initally invest to get the ball rolling? Just got my refund.

>>7595613
Go all in max leverage.

>>7595613
Your entire refund.

>>7593745

Here's a better one

Anyone got any Canadian cannabis stocks to shill?

>>7595613
What are your goals and what broker are you wanting to use?

>20m in one day after buy out
>price hasnt moved at all
Do I buy in ?

>>7595690
SHOP, they just announced they are handling all Canadian online sales

>>7595711
Long term investments, wanna do this for a while. Just using Robinhood.

>>7595836
Micron (MU & defense stocks. I likes Kratos (KTOS)

>bears have to cover their shorts now that we are shooting up
>this causes market to shoot up more making me even richer

>>7595836
If you're doing long term, look for dividend growth. I think I'm the only one on the board who does this, but trust me, it works wonders.

>>7595782
It does look interesting actually.

Who else pressing their longs here?

>>7595829

>>7595912

I dont know if I'd call yours a "long"

>>7595912
holding my longs. still sitting on a lot of cash. until we pass 2700. looking for a double bottom before moonshot.

>>7595868
>>7595890
Thanks for the help, what should I do to start researching? And would 200-300 be a decent starting point?

>>7595926
DON'T POST THIS GORE

THAT WAS MY COUSIN YOU SICK FUCK

>>7595836
I don't know your financial situation but since Robinhood doesn't have any fees or commissions then you won't get eaten alive by commissions even if you start out small. I'd say toss a few thousand dollars into it and put 75% of your money into index funds and use the other 25% to play around with trying to pick stocks and learning how to trade / invest. As you learn more then you can start moving more money out of the index funds and into single companies that you pick.

you guys know this thread is being run mostly by bots right?

>>7595997
t. Upset @ OP pic.

>>7595613
>refund
I OWE THE TAX MAN $2,000 AND THIS IS ON TOP OF THE THOUSANDS I ALREADY PAY. WHAT THE FUCK TRUMP FIX THIS RIGHT NOWWWWWW

>How much should I initially invest to get the ball rolling?
how much can you afford anon?

>>7595958
The "issue" with dividend investing is that you need a lot to make a solid paycheck. I'd suggest using that amount to build up to at least 5 figures and then getting on the dividend train. There are other people here who can help you with that kind of investing, not I though.

EVERYTHING IS GREEN.
except bgfv.
fuck bgfv

>>7594574
Hey Victor, no one's gonna buy your bags.

>>7596023
i don't really care about pictures that show no actual DD in the companies filings.....

i haven't even been posting about BGFV only people that have even been bringing up BGFV lately are only bears... i do trade other stock you know..

>>7595997

Dividends are for chumps and get taxed at higher rates than capital appreciation. Given a choice between the same pre-tax total return, you should prefer more of it from capital gains than dividends because of preferential tax treatment. If you are a chad like me, trade futures and get max leverage and 60% long term capital gains treatment even if your positions have an average life of a week.

official thread theme for rest of the market day

https://youtu.be/b5r4SAY5y8g?t=8s

Why are all the tripfags on /biz/ such fucking losers

>>7593964

He's probably at one of the stores buying bags to increase sales

hopefully he remembered his coupon

>>7596134
>tripfags on /biz/
There's your answer

>>7595997
oh, so that's why your calls are so bad

>>7596096
Just giving you shit man.

Why do you think this thread is (((bots)))

>>7596040
Thanks! Not making much til I graduate in December, so I'll work on that for these next few months.

>>7596165

>>7596184
bot detected

>>7595997

>>7596184
you couldn't tell when the market started correcting and then all the pink wojaks came in and all the 1 post by this ID started occuring going through 4 threads a day when it would usually barely even make it through the trading day without getting bumped off the board.

>>7596096
Frankly

Even if you are mocked, you have become a meme

Be proud

>>7596220
I guess that explains it

AAAAAAAH IT'S CRASHING

>>7596124
>>7596193

>>7596040
the real issue is you need to pay taxes on your dividends but with non-dividend companies that reinvest their profits you can defer the capital gains indefinitely until you sell
this isnt a positive if you actually need the money now in which case dividend investing is great and the most comfy type of investing imaginable

>>7596165

>>7596250
we had a horde of crypto refugees who came after the crash.
that's why we're getting all the dumb questions lately

>>7593921
This is true but there is also the fact that these program’s often do things that are completely unexpected and obviously irrational when the variables start to go to the extremes. This could (and has in the many flash crashes) lead to irrational behaviour which might not be easy to correct afterwards. For example if there was a flash crash right before an options payout, it could lead to massive losses (or gains)

>>7596253
I dont care.. i have a life outside of 4chan.. i swear

>>7596250
I don't think /biz/ is enough of a target to get bot-fucked. Last week was fucking crazy for the market, just like this week will be. I think a good amount of cryptos are branching out to stocks as well.

>>7596250
those arent bots, its Leftypol bears raiding

>>7596353
>>Bots
>>Leftypol

>>7596300
its always the same types of posting when the place is flooded, whether they are bots or not. My favorite is "OH NO MY BROKER HASN'T CLEARED MY FUNDS AAAHHH" with a wojak..

same story everytime, watch as the market settles this thread settles because there is an outside entity trying to influence market behavior. It won't just be here it'll be many different places aswell.. people do get paid to promote or bash a certain company.......... and sometimes the whole market

>>7596040
If dividend investing is the best strategy, why would it be advisable to do anything else? It's like telling a guy to spend his paycheck on lottery tickets because he can't afford a superior low risk investment.

Going in hard on USO, who is with me?

>>7596250
In all seriousness though, I think we're our thread is more popular now because of the name change from /rgt/

>>7595969

>>7596412
wtf my money really hasnt transferred >>7593842
big5 guy called me a bot i think this is an honor as I am not a certified real human being

>>7596250
In all seriousness though, I think our thread is more popular now because of the name change from /rgt/

>>7596416
I'm just saying it works for me. I pay my bills with dividend checks & work a cakewalk weekend job for "fun money"

>>7596460
I'll have you know, I created the name /smg/. And if you were there, you'll remember, I said I'd brag about it for the rest of my life.

>>7596487
definitely

>>7596477
wait.... there's certification....

>>7596502
tell me more anon

>>7596490
I actually do remember that

DANGER DANGER DANGER

ABORT MOON MISSION

ABORT ABORT

>>7596288
You americans are so lucky

Your domestic market is the most advanced one and you have gain friendly tax laws

In Europe, every gain is taxed as regular income AND punctioned to fund the failing social security

THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN

BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN

THE BEARS ARE BACK IN TOOOOOWN

BEARS ARE BACK IN TOWN

>>7596514
No you

>>7596531
pls no daddy

>>7596416
>If dividend investing is the best strategy, why would it be advisable to do anything else?
it took me about a year to learn that dividend investing is shit, it's all good until one day all your gains plus dividend gains are gone.

Only way i see dividend investing working out well is if you pick out stocks on S&P 500 or DJIA that pay out a good dividend and you dollar cost average all the way to retirement. Anybody trying to chase big dividend payers for the short term game needs to be extremely active imo

S&P close 2650 to give room for another day like this tomorrow

good overnight holds?

Oh god it's crashing. The bear is trying to get some swipes in before the bell.

>>7596578
SINA

get in right now
earnings report after the bell

>>7596520
I also was there

>>7596535
In Europe, if I'm not mistaken unrealized capital gain is taxed as well?

>>7596566
Short term dividend is not a thing. Anyone playing dividend game better be playing long-term. Or get ass raped, i mean if that's your thing yknow

/biz/, when would be a good time to buy my first stocks? I have around $150k in fiat and it feels kinda wasteful to just have it sitting around doing nothing but I don't want to get JUST'ed.

>>7596578

CASH!

>>7596596
SINA fucked me the last two times I tried to play earnings

good luck though

>>7596487
>In all seriousness though, I think our thread is more popular now because of the name change from /rgt/
i gotta agree, still don't like the /smg/ makes me want to say smug.

You think that /rgt/ was created by the robinhood creators and after it got rolling they just let it roll and anons just kept posting it day after day?

since it is /smg/ now anybody got any good otc plays?

>>7596616
now

>>7596596
DON'T TALK ABOUT IT YOU RETARD YOU;RE GOING TO RUIN IT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NOW I'M FUCKED

/smg/ was created by self aware AI bots

>>7596520
>>7596602

Good, then you'll have my back when some cryptofag calls me a newfag in 2020

>>7596596
>>7596640
thanks bought your bags

>>7596616

take like 25% of that and set it aside to hold as cash

take another 25% and buy a market tracking ETF like SPY (enter slowly little by little over the course of a month or two just in case we keep dropping)

take another 25% and buy some long term hold shit that you will not sell for years, whatever good solid companies you have faith in to grow for the next few years

take last 25% and daytrade meme stocks

>>7596566
Did you even read the financial report anon? Dividend stocks are fine as long as the free cash flow consistently exceeds the dividend amount.

>>7596535
Luckily in the US our social security and medicaid / medicare bullshit is paid for through "payroll taxes" that are only levied on a person's regular income (~7% paid out of the employee's wages and a matching ~7% paid by the employer -- if you're self employed then you have to pay both shares so you pay close to 15%). Even though short term capital gains are taxed at the same rate as a person's regular income, they don't have the additional payroll taxes levied against them.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>7596613
when i first started stocks i fell for the dividend meme, was loaded up with REITs and blue chip divi payers. Fucking flat for 6 months after about a year i said fuck it. went for growth

>>7596616
that's a lot of fiat, anon. you're currently getting JUST'd by infations rates so you gotta do something. if you're going (very) long term, just lump sum invest 150k into some random ETF but if it makes you feel better probably dollar cost average over a year or so (buy $15k / mo for 10 months). you can buy bonds if your worried about a crash, most people recommend having (your age -10)% of your portfolio in bonds

>>7596687
we have 3.8% obamacare capital gain tax anon.

>>7596696
what do the meme lines say

>>7596707
>And when I thought of growth I thought of Big Five Sporting Goods.

>>7596640
>my /biz/post is going to influence a 7 billion dollar chinese media giant's earnings report results

ok

>>7596727
It was going to beat earnings by 2000% and now it's not.

Fugg u rtrd

>>7596707
my friend showed me his bank managed portfolio and like 50% of it was in colgate kek

>>7596709
>>7596725
Anon beat me to it! Fucking lol man

I'll take my 10%+ yield and pay my bills, I appreciate all of your guys concern though :-)

>>7596725

>>7596674
>Dividend stocks are fine as long as the free cash flow consistently exceeds the dividend amount.
well duh.

If you guys are looking for a risky dividend payer, like really really fucking high check out WHZT it WILL go to 0.00 in like 2021 but until then it pays out like 99% of it's earnings in dividends. it was delisted and now that oil is climbing back WHZT started their dividend back up. you could probably make all your money back in just dividends from it at this point, but the stock WILL go to zero, it expires in 2021

>>7596715
Hm, I didn't know that, it's better than an over 7% payroll tax at least, I'm a brainlet and just plug a bunch of numbers into turbotax and accept whatever result it spits out.

Please pray for
SINA
UAA
APRN

I need this green

>>7596820
I have no faith in APRN

STOCK MARKET WHY YOU GO DOWN?

>>7596820
>APRN
>UAA
i hope your margin maintenance isn't too high

>>7596843

because >>7596129

>>7596635
I'm kinda scared because of the drop, but I guess now is a better time than a few weeks ago at least.

>>7596673
I don't want to put in 75% of my money in stocks and definitely not 25% in meme stocks, that would be 37.5k in meme stocks.

The entering slowly little by little sounds like a good idea though.

>>7596709
Yeah, I'm getting fucking destroyed here because of how weak the dollar has gotten over the past year. I live in the Czech republic and 1 USD was 25 Czech Crowns 1 year ago. It's currenly worth only 20.7 Czech Crowns.

Thing is, I don't really know how to buy bonds or stocks, I've never done it before. I have an account on eToro but I'm not sure if it's good to buy stocks with it (they're not even really stocks but a Contract for Difference.

>>7596837
>>7596859
I'm attempting to inverse the analysts instead of being a good goy.

Hold me im scared

Are there any stocks you guys are looking to get this week if there's a dip?

>>7596902
contrarians get the bullet too

>>7596566
I guess it depends on what you mean on dividend investing
If you are chasing yield short term, it is not good
But dividends from stable business with a low pay-out ratio, that is cool and hassle free
That would be my LT goal

Was an excellent day today anons, see your asses tomorrow.

>>7596803
>Risky dividend payer
SSI is one of those but if you look closer. It is priced well below its tangible book value and consistently produces positive free cash flow. If this goes bankrupt, the liquidation value itself worth more than the market cap.

Can't wait to get fucked by the aftermarket bears

>>7596937
Exactly. The longer your term, the better this option is. In my opinion at least. There is more than one way to skin a cat though.

See ya friends

Have a good night and best of luck for tomorrow...unless you're holding BGFV :^)

>>7596924
more MU, some JD maybe if it drops below $40, I'll gamble on IRBT if it drops to $55

>>7596725
its actually for the value and the share structure i am interested in BGFV for. Share structure has been the biggest part of my trading for some time now and has been profitable for me, it can take awhile for some trades but as long as the share structure stays the same i keep my same PT and trading strategy

>>7593584when sell

What is the point of pre market and after hours trading? Why not just have it 24/7 OR only 9:30 to 4pm?

I guess I'll crack that smirnoff.... 400pts is good enough to celebrate.

That was a nice dead cat bounce

>>7596862
Sorry about getting JUST'd by the dollar anon. That's gotta suck, but we gotta keep our balance of payments in check, you know how it is.

As for a broker, just find something cheap. There are a couple of ones listed in the OP. I dont know what its like in the CR, but I personally use Fidelity, which charges about $5 per trade. Vanguard is is a great one too, they provide low fee funds and ETFs. Things might be diffrent in CR, so you could ask your bank for a reputable broker.

>>7597000
low P/B ratio, very healthy balance sheet, high Piotroski score, the insiders are buying, healthy free-cash-flow/dividend ratio. All the stats are good. It is a fucking shitty retail business though,

>>7597059

We're not, well most of us aren't crack heads. We have to sleep so we put in some regulations to allow for rest. Pretty comfy huh.

>>7597059
I agree

>>7597130
>well most of us aren't crack heads.

>>7596925
>crypto meme

>>7597059
Why not have the ability to buy and sell whenever you want except friday to sunday night?

>>7597130
Speak for yourself I'm here to make money I leave my bets working not to take a day off at 4pm.

>>7597059
After hours is when earnings are reported, these can have high impacts on a company's value.

>>7597191
Spotted the crackhead

>>7596608
I can speak for France
Fortunately, they are not taxed
But any realized capital gain will be subject to :
- 17.2% of punction for Social Security (nigger and mudslime subsidies)
- PLUS 12.8% of taxes
So 30% of guarantee taxes for the gubment

>>7597225
>30% of guarantee taxes for the gubment
what the fuck man

>>7597191
I used to think like this but then I had my first downday and boy was I glad when the markets closed.

>>7597225
that fucking sucks dude.

>>7597225
Is Macaroni man going to cut some of those taxes??

>>7597042
BGFV reminds of the pachinko business I recently invested in (Dynam Japan, 6889.HK)
The problem is the same as BGFV : shrinking revenue but otherwise financially healthy (mainly no debt and a manageable level of working capital)

Generally, the management cares about giving return to their shareholders in the form of dividends (pay-out ratio >90%).

You just have to be sure that they can maintain the nominal dividend value for a few periods.

Also, as a former retail business owner, the PP&E on the balance sheet is nowadays worth nothing if the business is not located in a prime location of a big city.

>>7597452
Jokes on you

This 30% rate is presented as a tax cut

>>7597510
kek you were the guy who emailed them telling them to create a blockchain right? thanks for the analysis man its really insightful

>>7597557
I thought we defeated communism, and saved Europe, but noooo. All of Europe just willingly became fucking commies..

>>7597099
Yeah it's not fun, especially now that business has slowed down on top of it. I've looked into Vanguard before but I don't think it's available here.

I'll look into it some more.

>>7597510
>Generally, the management cares about giving return to their shareholders in the form of dividends (pay-out ratio >90%).
>You just have to be sure that they can maintain the nominal dividend value for a few periods.
I'm not too worried about the dividends desu, more about the share structure and the value as in assets they own and that they are actually profitable. If they cut the divi for a little it should come back soon after due to them doing a share buy back, if they can buy back a few million shares thats a few million less people to pay a dividend out to. They've been doing alot to shape up their operations, i've seen many stocks perform like this for awhile only to have them shoot up overnight due to some unexpected stellar earnings, i've also seen stocks perform like this then get delisted and halted for some type of investigation. Anything could happen, but i'm watching the value and the share structure with it at this point.

>>7597581
Yeah lol
But the oyabun of the company didn't care to reply
I think it is a great idea : that way, you incite young people to go to pachinko parlors and you can maybe diversify as a crypto brokerage

Sell at open tomorrow or RIP your gains, the down trend will recommence tomorrow.

>People still try to FUD the stock market.

ah yes crash confirmed get your wallet ready to buy in 5-6 months

>>7597620
You know, I cried like a little bitch when Trump speak in Davos about those unelected bureaucrats. In my mind, it was like a big "fuck you" at the EU

>>7597661
Thanks for the tips.

I do like how Shkreli taught in his videos. I try to figure out the potential earnings of the company and if the price is fair. The dividend is very secondary.

>>7593584
Brutal crash today boys bears were right again

>>7597510
>pachinko
Reminds me of the time I bought stock in the company that made the Haruhi Hunting machines, for maximum shitposting. Went up like 15% in four months before I sold.

>>7597978
>being a bear in the strongest bull market in history

>>7597978
2700 tomorrow.

>>7597913
>I try to figure out the potential earnings of the company and if the price is fair
Imo that is the biggest problem with BGFV right now, there isn't any hype around it's earnings, brick and mortar are a dieing breed, everyone knows that, I know that and completely understand that but I focus more on the trade. There are plenty of OTC stocks that go from .01 to .05 in 1-2 days and the company doesn't even do shit. Accumulation and distribution combined with share structure has done me well these past few years so i'm sticking to it. heres a quick video on what i usually look for in a chart after i have looked into their share structure and potential upcoming dilution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYh7eNtVro

>>7598089
Gotta know when to hold em, when to fold em, and when to walk away, my man.

Your stock's a loser and a net worth bruiser.

>>7597769
wrong

>>7598127
I'll hold it for now, thanks for your insight though.

I have other holdings and trades that carry me well.

>>7598127
Playing the market is a lot like playing poker. It's all about decision making. It helps to be like a social psychologist to understand the market sentiment, and understand when you have to cut losses.

>>7598337
it also helps if you have time frame in mind and what your strategy is.

Some people want to trade and then their trades turn to investments some peoples investments turn into trades.

Learning the difference between your trades and investments as well as risk and time frame is important.

>>7598089
I see what you wanted to do there

I am more of a meme buffett guy myself but will definitely look into that aspect of trading too

>>7598041
you sir are a true hero

>>7598432
i've been doing that same strategy for the past couple years. It's not for everyone though, some stocks can take awhile to start trending back up, if there is dilution it may never start trending back up. I have many different sources of income so accumulating something for a few months that i feel is a good buy is no problem to me, i can sit there and average down for a few months. If share structure changes, im out of there though.

Does it matter if the market is up or down if I just want to buy index funds?

>tfw holding for 10 years no matter what so you don't care about the health of the market

How is everyone doing?

>>7598658
that's the only time it matters

>>7598658
>does it matter if the market is up or down if I just want to buy something that tracks the market 1:1?

>>7598675
what are you holding for 10 years and why does it have to be 10 years? i mean what if in 10 years it happens to come right back down to where it is now? is there a certain % gain you will take if it reaches that target before 10 years?

>>7598658
It depends on your time frame

If you think you need the money in the near term, it does matter.

If it is long term, it doesn't as long as you have faith in America

>>7598658
Index funds are meant to held for years and years. It doesn't really matter.

>>7598658
basically this>>7598712

>>7598768
everything, because 10 years is a good time frame, then I'll still make bank on dividends, Yes.

>>7598815
are you going to be steadily buying whatever you are holding or just buy a position and leave it for 10 years?

>>7599032
wow you became a meme desu. good job.

how's BGFV?

Easy money to be made on ABEV this week. Already bought 380 shares at 6.60.

>>7595668
>>7599032

Ouch Big5Guy.. how low your IQ? need to scam more ppl like you.

>>7599194
I would like to know how you come to this conclusion ? At what trading/financial metrics do you look at ?

>>7599333
Mostly basing this conclusion on it hitting the lower limit bollinger band then forming a hammer candlestick, crossing above the 50 days moving average and ending on a solid up day.
Buying today was a bit risky but the next few days will be good.

>>7599519
Thx m8

>>7599292
BGFV is n-not a scam! It's just in an accumulation period by market maker manipulators looking for cheap shares!

M-mid teens s-soon

>>7599652
Its MACD crossed above the signal line today. First bullish sign in a while, buy before 180% breakout!

>>7598712

So..better to buy when up or down( my assumption is down...)?

>>7598769
>>7598774

will be long term. 15 years +.. so i guess it doesnt matter

>>7599872
You should study up on the business cycle before investing in the very long term.
If I were you I'd work my current capital until the next recession and then buy a few bonds when they're ridiculously underpriced.

>>7599872
If it is 15 years and you don't know nor dare to pick stocks, you buy a fixed amount of index funds every 3 month, no matter the price

>>7600365

Well i have a fixed amount that I want to invest. Can i look at index funds as a kind of long term CD with a better rates (assuming the index has steady yearly growth)?

Considering I dont have the time or knowledge to get deep into investing, I was hoping that I could find something that would give a good return in a long term frame.

If i got all into it, i could try to buy & sell and gamble for that golden %12 annual. But im realistic, and not expecting huge gains with little work. Pretty much substituting length of time for amount of work.

Nikkei futures mooning again
massive gap up tomorrow

>>7600619
>i have a fixed amount that I want to invest
what so you're gonna buy X amount now and never buy any more? what are you going to do with your money instead?

>>7600619
It is simple : cash = guarantee 0% return
With stocks/index funds/bonds, prices can go down but they can also go up
With an index fund, you are sort of betting that a certain sector or country will grow

For example, if you have faith in America, look for ETFs following US stocks (example : VOO, SPY). If you think healthcare will be the next sector to grow, buy IBB

Go on etfdb.com and look at their screener. Look for ETF with low fees and good liquidity (high daily volume).

And instead of going all in with your funds, buy the ETFs little by little, every 3 months for example.

>>7600699

real estate, cd flipping, maybe some business investing, cash on hand

>>7601349
>cd flipping
Boomer pls

>>7594166
>and reluctance to sell loser stocks.
So chad is a bagholder?
lol

Reminder the opposite of the bull market is a cuck market.

>PIRS is $8.80 now
I tell myself to stop selling early every time and I never learn. Kek.

>>7599652

kek

>>7600654

Does this mean BOTZ is going to have a good day?

I have $5k cash. What to buy im in canada?

>>7603490

poutine

THE HK50 IS GETTING PUMPED BY THE CHINKS HOLY SHIT

>>7604061

source?

>>7604202
well you could look at the chart

>>7604223

I cant find it REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7604470
>HSI
>HK50
>HKXHKD

>>7604504

>currency

who cares

what does this mean for stocks tommorow?

>>7604574
Futures are flat, -14 on dow, it means nothing yet

>>7604574
its the hong kong index newfag, not a currency

>>7604653
>HKXHKD

>1.64%

big fucking deal.