/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7457268
Morning

How are you doing today gentlemen ?

>>7457268
Gambate weed stocks!

>stock market general
how're those 4% monthly returns doing? we've all 100x'd our money already on shitcoins.

I was being facetious yesterday... I think we might actually be approaching new paradigm. When you've got fiscal conservative budget hawks like my self actually applauding government spending on shit infrastructure like the wall and bigger military something's definitely fucked up. Interest rates are going to continue to rise we all know it we all anticipate it so lets just prepare for it. I've said this before and I will say it again, sell bonds you don't even have. Just fucking sell them. We're all going to make it.

>>7457686
Red ID claims he's 100x'd his money. Did you cash out into fiat and buy something yet?

>>7457686
>Implying we don't use our shitcoin gains to buy real investments

>>7457700
Pardon my newfagginess,but aren't rising interest rates a reason to buy bonds?

>>7457771
I'm pretty sure it's bad for bonds and REITS. If they rise then the old bond you're holding isn't as valuable.

Hope you guys bought some BSPM yesterday :-)

>>7457916
Jesus christ 1m volume 10 minutes after open

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/american-mall-game/
Why you should long balls deep AMZN

>>7457771

Ok say you take $100 and buy a bond that gives you 5% a year on that $100 for 10 years. Over the life of that bond it's worth $150 bucks or something. Say the next fucking day the damn rate goes up to 6% and you've changed your mind and want to get out of the bond so you can fucking buy something else. Well why would anybody buy your bond worth $150 when they can just get a fresh one worth $160. Somebody will buy it but you're not getting $100 for it! That bond is worth like $90 or some damn thing. I could figure out exact numbers and do the math if I wasn't hung over and had time to calculate it, but you don't have to have exact numbers to wrap your head around the fucking concept.

>>7457268
How does robin hood compare to questrade?

>>7457771
Rising interest rate mean a drop in price for already existing bonds
Also, if rates keep rising, it means inflation risk is felt as being greater

shorted twitter at $32.89, I'm hoping it'll close below $30 today once the hype dies off

>>7458087
I thought raising interest rates slowed down inflation though...

>>7457916
How high will it moon anon? %

>>7458087
So buy TIPs? ???

>>7458303
Yes but it can be that the raise might not be enough

Hey, is there any "good" investing podcast out there? I feel like it could be something helpful while I drink my morning coffee.

>>7457686
>implying I didn't invest in the stock market with crypto gains

you gotta diversify, nigga

>>7458347
I wouldn't touch bonds that depends on government statistics.
I would buy stocks from services with strong pricing power (eg. Luxury)

>>7458303
Lowering rates slows inflation. Cheap money means prices can rise because people can afford it. See median home price index charts in the wake of the '08 crash when quantitative easing kicked in. Mortgage interest rates got lower so it became cheaper to finance a house. More people were buying houses, more demand = higher prices.

This is post-gold-standard economics 101.

>>7458397
You're right, just look at Tiffany & Co. Their profits are soaring!

Also MU (Micron) should be skyrocketing this year. Great long term investment.

wew…
What a ride. Just got the invoice for the heli rescue while skiing a week ago, and then lost 4 times that amount in the correction, only to get it almost all back. What a rollercoaster.
That was my first correction I witnessed live!
Lessons learned:
>don't get emotional
>do more planning
…or I'll just switch totally to long term hodling of blue chips and large ETFs, but where's the fun in that?

>>7458397
Long dated bonds and bond ETFs are going to get BTFO this year. I'm holding my stocks and just buying individual 4 week t bills (instead of savings account) until rates stop rising or the stock market crashes. Also holding $FLOT to have some rate-proof corporate bond exposure.

>>7458397
Except for the whole hold bonds part.

>>7458483
>implying the "correction" is over

>>7458438
>America
>Luxury
lol
Europenis luxury brands are more profitable.

Coins board here bro

>>7458531
I prefer to invest in my own country.

T W I T T E R

>>7458522
>
Probably not. But I guess those heavy drops are over. I can live with sideways movements or a slow decline, but just having 15k evaporate right in front of my eyes within 2 days was quite the interesting experience.

>>7458566
Profits and tendies have no nation m8

>>7458531
>Europenis luxury brands are more profitable.
Might be. I'm quite happy with LVMH as a long term hold. I think I'm even getting dividends. (though, I'd prefer to get them in special shareholder edition Hermés ties or something)

wew

>>7458329
Was heading towards 20-30% but some fuckin whale sold 1m, buy the dip at your own risk I suppose

>>7458616
>Hermés ties
Crap. They got rid of them a while ago. So LV ties please…

Props to Nak shill, make sure you anons get out by end of week before the dump

>>7458006
Ah, gotcha. Dump existing bonds since they're the ones getting hosed. And caveat emptor for new bonds.

Shill me some penny stocks. Looking at nspr after a nasty reverse split.

FUCK
MY SNAP STOCK WENT DOWN!!!

What do you guys think about California energy stocks like PCG and EIX? Those two got rekt because of the wildfires but surely there's a bottom there somewhere and they'll make a strong recovery eventually.

>>7458874
Fag

>>7458894
See
>>7458903
Trump isn't letting the feds carry Commiefornia anymore. Expect businesses there to tank, or more likely bankrupt altogether, within the next few years.

>>7458874
Did you seriously keep holding after the pump yesterday? On an unprofitable company? A

i have an extra $6 on buying power
anyone know any cheap gold mining stocks?

>>7459012
ALL IN JNUG

>GOOS

>>7458987
yeah, i bought it when it was $13
thinking about selling it right now before it really dips down

>>7458463
Why?

>>7458947
This post is proof you should never take financial advice from /pol/

There is no happening. California will still be a top state for a while. I'd say go for it.

>>7458947
>Trump isn't letting the feds carry Commiefornia anymore

>money finally clears
>have to decide when to go all in on various stocks

WHEN WILL THE CORRECTION BE OVER

CRASH YOU STUPID FUCKING MARKET JUST CRASH ALREADY

>>7459149
5?

>>7459212
oh wait. i get it.

>anon says if SPY is down this morning to buy TVIX
>SPY down slightly
>TVIX up over 10%
Fuck should have listened.

>>7459012

LODE

Is ATVI a buy before earnings ?

I see it as a good LT hold.

LTBR

>bought some STMicro because I know there's a good long-term industrial activity prospect in RF microelectronics
>stock drops

it's a dip buyers get BTFO yet again episode

>>7459405
are you a europoor

NXTD
making a contactless payment system for crypto to retail transactions. Preorders coming this month.

Years of gainz, completely wiped out in under 2 weeks. All my work, gone.... Along with a large chunk of my initial investment.

Hitler was right. I wish he had wiped out the Jews when he had the chance.

Anyone have any experience in investing in movie companies?
I am thinking about getting some Lionsgate stock

>>7459432
Yes

could be another good day for ICLD

>NAK
This. How long should I HODL?

>>7459447

no one cares about blockchain anymore.

>NAK
ATTACK
>NAK
ATTACK
>NAK
ATTACK
>NAK
ATTACK

When to buy into AMD?

Dumped my F & IRM positions to buy AMZA. Dividend fag. Let's get drunk for thursday yall. I'm gonna go watch some snooker. Best blog post

>NAK

APOLOGIZE

>>7459621

The year 2015

>>7459621
never, correct answer for that shitcoin is never

>>7459378
Don't gamble on earnings. TTWO going red today after their ER yesterday should teach you that. LT hodl is best way to play Vidya stocks, just buy on dips they are consistent growers.

>>7459621
Never

I bought Visa

Dead cat bounce confirmed, gtfo

Thank God I didn't buy yesterday.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GET FUCKED POORFAGS

WE HITTING -700 BY CLOSING

>VMW

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just bought 8 shares of NVDA before earnings. You think I am going to make that sweet 10% anon?

Wtf is with this marketwide crash the past 30 minutes

>he bought the dip

CRASH CRASH CRASH

Buy TVIX to profit from the blood bath

>>7459632
>IRM
Not buying UNIT instead.

>>7459875
>bloodbath
>up 20%
pick 1

>>7457268

>>7459937
Market is about to fucking drop =TVIX $$$

who else here /comfy/ ready to buy on monday?

>>7459708
me too famalam, feels bad

>>7460035
gravity doesn't exist, the earth just sucks.

This volitility is off the fucking chain.

HE TRIED TO WARN US

>>7459891
I already own UNIT broski

>>7460130
TVIX friend

So Tuesday was a bull trap?

We heading off the cliff soon?

Want to get robinhood gold. Missed opportunities to sell in the pm and ah with a couple of stocks.

Does the tiers only affect buying hours or does the tier also affect when you ca buy and sell in pm and ah?
So does tier one and tier three have thr same available pm and ah hours?
I don't really care about buying powrr.

>>7460213
We already are anon

>>7460213
I'm thinking that this is more institutional traders shaking the tree trying to get retail cucks to give up their shares for cheap before the bull run comes back early next week.

>>7460213
It's starting to look like it.

How far will it drop lads?

>>7460307
bout 3.50

>>7460307

50%

>YFW IT WAS A BULL TRAP

since robinhood is 3000 years away from opening in australia, are there any good alternatives?

How the fuck do I make money on Robinhood when things go bearish if it doesn't support short selling?

>>7460368
quality kek

>new paradigm

Im all in on the s&p 500 as eell as the mid and small cap s&p. Recent events has made of decide to only invest enough for my 401k match and to pay off my debts instead since i dont see myself outpacing the intrests anymore.

Fuuuuuuuuuuu, was about to buy 6k worth of AMRS at 4.70 and a minute later it skies.

>>7460427

>Bought NVDA this morning to gamble on ER

>>7460474
begone, destroyer of food

>>7460449
Yep. I already have my emergency fund, gonna pay debts then start using my extra income to throw at a roth

ITS HAPPENING

>>7460387
SDOW
SQQQ
SPXU
RGLD
SGOL

>>7460213
of course not
we are ranging
choppy market for awhile, its not going down

>>7460449
My debts are at 3.5% intrests though not fucked up shit like 10

MFW I had a bear call spread on VXX that was going to suck up the whole margin risked, but covered the short half and then sold my long half made 6 grand more than I would have had the options just expired worthless.

>>7460449
The problem with this chart is that it doesn't include saving for things like a down payment on a house. Right now I'm building up a big cash position for a home purchase and taking priority over 401k for that.

told yall to buy tvix when spy fell

shit has been easy gains all this week

>>7460505
IRAs pull money from the stock market, you will just lose money there too

>>7460562
If your 401k is matched you never stop paying in to it. That'd be retarded. 4%-6% pre-tax is fucking nothing.

lol you babies didnt buy the sp500 dip
Sad!

Mildly red early trading for weed, nothing major. Single digit decline mostly less than 5%. Not bad at all considering the burger market is apparently fucked.

At work, sitting in work jeep, blizzard in progress and there's not much i can do, work wise, except come here and shitpost. About 1 foot of snow fell over night and another 6 inches expected.

>>7460634
This, you always max out your 401k employer match %... It's LITERALLY free money and you're retarded if you don't take it.

holy shit

last chance to short this market pop

we are going fucking D O W N

>>7460661
Okay fuck this snow, i'm going to park in the underground until i get a call to go do work stuff.

>>7460633
Not over 35 - 40 years they wont. Just need to move to bond and not get caught in a dip when i pull it out

>>7460690
>>7458522
>>7459164
D E S P E R A T E
bears will always lose

>>7460633
IRA is for very long term, so who really cares about a single years market fluctuations unless we're hitting a recession. Which we're not. I hope the Dow hits 22000.

>>7460683
Literally free money indeed. If that's where you're trying to cut costs you're definitely a brainlet.

Anyway that graph has a section for large purchases right in the middle. Your down payment is typically the price of a shiny new car and the rest is loaned out. It has a section for that too.

>>7460634
Of course I match. I get 8% match. I just don't max out the 18,500 per year while I save for a house.

>>7460751
???
we are falling way below from where it was when i posted at 10am

what are you talking about

>>7460751
Bears and Bulls always win but pigs go to market to get slaughtered

>>7460683
I don't know any major employers (or minor for that manner) who have matched contributions for anybody hired this decade. It's become almost a legendary myth at this point.

>>7460767
Then you're fine. It literally says do match only before a big purchase. After big purchase it says you can put more in 401k.

>>7460751
No one gets hurt on the roller coaster except those who jump off

>>7460690
We are about to go parabolic upwards in a week. Cap this. get your leveraged longs ready or get rekt.

Faggot whomst has never invested before.

I just want to wait until the correction plays out and then dump 10k into an Index fund. On a 1 to 10 scale, how brainlet is this?

>>7460787
>5 minutes go

>getting shaken by morning selloff

hands of butter be ye melte

is there any reason not to buy NVDA?
I can't imagine them missing earnings with all the crypto craze

>>7460794
The saying goes: Sometimes bulls win, other times bears win, but pigs will always get slaughtered.

>>7460820
>you could have listened

>>7460458

This is major gains to ground control

>>7460756
Nice meme lines

>>7460835
This is where those who took the damn time to understand how to trade and profit in sideways markets get their cheddar.

Is the stock market dead? This tank job is catastrophic

>>7460927
Meme lines make the world go round.

>limit buy stock
>gets partially filled before going above limit
>stock goes back to limit price
>doesn't get filled
I don't understand how I'm not the first in line to get the stock at the price I set when the shares I wanted already got partially filled.

>>7460942
Who cares? Just short your way down and continue making money.

>>7460919
GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR GAINS

YOU ARE OFF TRAJECTORY I REPEAT OFF TRAJECTORY

WE HAVE LOST REMOTE CONTROLS

>>7460997
Bought SPXL yesterday after the good day. If i get out of it now and get into SPXS the market will immediately rocket ship to 28-30k I will lose money

>>7460942
>people forgetting the same dips from august are happening

buy you fools

>>7460835
No, no. The saying goes: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If you didn't just buy TVIX during the pre-lunch dip you missed out on the gains.

>>7459687
I actually bought TTWO today on the dip

I think I gonna pull the trigger on ATVI after their ER

>>7460919
This is Major Gains to Ground Control
I'm falling through the floor
And I'm tanking in a most peculiar way
And the dow feels very different today

This should be a fun read.

>>7461003
>>7461198
GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR GAINS
COMMENCING COUNTDOWN, MARKET CRASH IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
CHECK POSITION AND MAY THE GOD OF GAINS BE WITH YOU

Starting with just $20, bought three of NAK on sunday adn then i made a 1.17 gain and just bought 1 of TVIX no regrets. This thread is making me money from little money

>buying stocks when market is about to burst

Don't fall for the dead cat bounces, you can buy the dip and sell high but eventually that dip will be a falling knife lads

Major gains this is ground control. Everything looks jim and dandy from our end. over

>>7461415
bagholder, where are ya in the room, we miss ya bud!

>>7461445
I dropped out of Xavier's school.

>>7459602
Hahahahaha, hey cocksucker im up 90% with pebble this week hahahahah

man people really want this shit to go full bear huh

>>7461505
The market is always right anon

What is a good stock to buy right now that is like below $5?

When the hell is RH going to approve me for options? I signed up as soon as it came out.

I'm a buyer at 24,000 dow

>>7461556
Trading is halted for XIV

>>7461556
Basically what I'm saying is your fucked anon.

Why the fuck did you hold

>>7461459
awww, let us know if ya ever want a link back in.

why arent you buying KO /biz/? Its at 1990 level prices again

>>7458126
Thanks just bought 100k

>>7461784
I hope your joking anon.

Market is about to crash

>>7458126
>>7461806
stop being naive anon
your market short will be stopped out

>>7461825
>Implying I have enough capital to short

Fuck no I'm riding the TVIX gains train

>>7461825
shut the fuck up and short this market with us
everything is overvalued

SNAP and TWTR spikes might just stick, as they're tech companies and nothing makes sense in that sector. I'd rather go for CBOE correcting

>>7461784
>>7461825

I'm up over $400 on my TWTR short so far, I ended up shorting an additional 200 shares at $32 so I've got -400 shares total. Pretty sure it's gonna keep going down for the rest of the day and possibly the rest of the week.

I lost a lot of money in Xiv, what meme should I all in on now?

wew we /greatly rotating/ now

>>7461935
VXX

>>7461935
You missed the TVIX

>>7461935
NMM

>>7461855
>muh overvalued meme

>>7461879
LARP

Iron condors are going to be the best way to make this market our bitch over the next few weeks.

Buy the PEP and KO dips guys

Will the TA mouthbreathers make the downturn accelerate if this goes below Tuesday losses?

>>7462019

>>7462019
You just got BTFO>>7462071

>>7462071
Ok fine
but take profits now before it shoots up

>>7462122
nah, I'll just wait until the end of the day so I can cover it for a loss

>>7462019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI

>>7462062
Nah.

When you have a trend, and then all of a sudden you see lots of volatility, generally, that's a sign the trend is changing. The trend has been up, obviously stocks have been trending up for years. And they've been trending up with minimal volatility. All of a sudden you see massive volatility. Does that mean the trend is likely to continue? No. It's more likely a sign the trend has come to an end.

I hope you lads got your shitcoins ready - watch for the post market crash spike.

Rest of you I hope you got in on VIX & TVIX

STOCK MARKET COLLAPSE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7462281
Is it too late for tvix?

>>7462324
No it will very likely hit 13+

I'm out at 13.2

>>7462062

If we get to another 1200 point Dow dump you will see another 6k test in btc for and 100% sure. Especially with the weak volume and macd in the charts right now.

>>7462195

>>7462363
In at 11.51

>>7462370
There's no correlation with BTC. No one cares about incel neckbeard toys.

rollin

>he didnt buy KO x20 leverage

The most ironic thing is when we saw SNAP up 40% yesterday, and then we saw the market just'd. I'm starting to think that SNAP's price really controls the market.

Testing Tuesday lows now

F

HIIIIIIINGE

DOW GET BELOW 600 FOR THE DAY YOU FUCK

>>7462666
double bottom. moon.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7462706
you cant call the bottom until it starts to go back up

>Down 600 points

YOU FUCKERS TOLD ME WE WERE AT THE BOTTOM

>Twitter is up 20%
>first profitable quarter ever
WTF

Oi, I was only joking with the TA quip!

We are going down in a spiral to the ground
No one no one is gonna save us now

>>7462751
We hitting 23K min, MAYBE 22K

VIX looks like a bargain?

DO SOMETHING DRUMPF. MUH STAWK IS FUCKING GETTING REKT HERE OMG OMG OMG OMG

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Are we closing down over 1,000 again?

THREAD THEME:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fdZWbIsrFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fdZWbIsrFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fdZWbIsrFk

LOL THEY ARE SCARED

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-dudley-says-stock-drop-to-date-is-small-potatoes-2018-02-08?mod=bnbh

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

real thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jZNKz2upw

>>7462850
The selloff really started during the interview, ironically

any theories behind the crash?

my best guess: boomer funds are pulling out for retirement

>>7462924

My guess is WW3 is going to commence before the end of the year.

>>7462924

ETF bubble imploding

>>7462764
Yeah i saw that too. Pretty funny.

>>7463008
Oh nooo the ETF bubble is tied up with all the other bubble

STOB IT BLEASE DD:::

KEEP THE FUCKING BUBBLE ALIVE TRUMP GODFUCKING DAMNIT

>>7463028
Can't wait for the crash. I'm secure.

>>7463051
IT'S TOO LATE ANON

WE GOING CHALLENGER DEEP LEVELS

SHOULD HAVE GOT IN TVIX

When we hit 1000 down that is when the real fun begins.

>>7457268

When make the thread theme fuck bears edition, and you end up being the bear's bottom.

SELL SELL SELL

>>7463008
Since all ETFs do is to follow trends (buy more of the risen stocks and sell those who fall), I wonder if this dip has anything to do with the big names reporting weaker results

Where are all of those bulls from yesterday?

actual thread theme coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI

>>7463051
DDDx

I dunno why canadian weed sector seems to not give a fuck about the US markets going to hell. It mirrored the last drop by a factor of 10, now it doesn't budge.

Too late to get into tvix?

A reminder....

If you think the market is going to crash, you can still profit on it buy buying put options on $DIA.

The further it falls, the more you make.

Takes me back to '08. Back before I made my fortune.

I was so frightened, and the moment I saw that the drop wasn't going to stop, that this was no mere correction, I sold it all and bought up land. I made a small loss, but couldn't help but feel proud as I saw all the fools buying the dip.

FEDERAL RESERVE YOU MASSIVE FAGGOT BAIL THIS SHIT OUT RIGHT NOW

>>7463074
Me on the bottom

KEEP DROPPING

DADDY WANTS A LAMBO

here comes the bounce back up

lets see how strong it is

>>7463247
LOL no it is following the same trend all day

Falling to the fucking bottom

We still have three hours left. This could get ugly.

>>7463173
People who bought the dip in 2008 would have made a lot of money in 2017.

> MU 40.50

should I buy this stock at this very attractive valuation /biz/?

Do I need to report the 200 dollars I made from stocks to the irs?

>>7463173
if this takes you back to 2008 I dont think you were actually around in 2008

>>7463365
of course not

>>7463350

What are we buying?

>>7463247
>here comes the bounce back up
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BOUNCING BACK UP ANON

>>7463421
>Made 500 last year
>lost 500 this year
We'll call it even Mr IRS

>>7463452
Lambos

>>7463453
Yes it does

>>7463453
ok NOW heres the bounce up

>>7463453
>>7463513

NOT STRONG ENOUGH

ITS GOING BACK DOWN

For a long while back around 2008-2010, up or down 500 in a day was pretty normal.

As long as you don't fool yourself into thinking that stocks always go up or always go down, there will be money to be made.

Volatility is not always a bad thing. You just have to learn how to play it.

>>7457686

anon... you might want to learn how to actually trade...

Will all you spastic retards settle down please? Jesus Christ.

>>7463427
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS FAGGOT IT'S 40.94 OMG I MISSED THE DIP I FUCKING KILL MYSELF NOW

>>7463578
hes right

lets wait till 3pm to get wild

WHAT THE FUCKKK BIZ YOU TOLD ME WE ARE FINE FUCK MY FUTUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

There are two investment strategies:

>1. If a thing goes up, you buy it; if it goes down, you sell it.
>2. If a thing goes up, you sell it; if it goes down, you buy it.

The first is sometimes called "momentum," and the second is sometimes called "value," but you can crudely shove pretty much any investment strategy into one of these buckets, or at least a combination of the two. For instance the first strategy could be called "short volatility": The more the market bounces around, the more you will be buying high and selling low, and the worse off you'll be. And the second could be called "long volatility": Deep value investors are thrilled to buy during market crashes, and market-makers who buy at a penny below the midpoint and sell at a penny above it do better when volatility goes up.

200 shares into TVIX at 12.16
Let's go

>>7463350
The market is fine, it's just volitality, that being said, MU has some good news going for it and they recently reported increased projected earnings, so when the turn around comes, it should see some good levels of growth, but wait for the beginning of the up trend actually shows itself, most likely it's going to swing with the market lower then 40 dollars

>>7463639
RIP

And back down it goes

>>7463639
get a load of this goy over here

>>7459149
>>7459212
>>7459238
explain

>>7463657
ITS VOLATILITY IN THE DOWNWARD DIRECTION THOUGH

>>7463136
probably because it isnt a "higher risk because small emerging" but "higher risk because a different sector"

Also had a drop a week prior and weak hands already weed-ed out

>>7463350

>>7463587

>>7460815
5. It's a lazy strategy but an effective one. The only problem is the amount of people who think like that can disguise where the bottom really is.

>-600 SOON
-600 SOON
>-600 SOON

>>7463854
*distinguish

>>7463871
lol you think we stopping at 600?

>>7462924
interest rates

>>7463936
There goes my mREITs

>>7463967
>muh gold

>>7463699
Loss.

>>7463726
I guess so. The charts on weed/acb/aph are like a puppy pulling on a leash. Short violent tugs upward them right back down to the intraday mean. LET'S GO! No. Heel. Good boy. OKAY BUT GO GO GO! No. Heel.

>>7462924

Everyone knew that the gains were unreasonable.

There was no real reason why the dow would be up 9000 points since Trump was elected, and everyone knew that with rates being held artificially low for so long, the gains were fake.

So everyone has been waiting for a crash for at least a year. No one wants to get out too early, but it's deadly if you get out an hour too late.

So they've been waiting with their hands on the sell button, listening to the wind hoping to get out before the real crash hits.

>>7463871

>>7464107
nice analysis retard whom has never looked at a chart before this year

It's... ogre...

>>7464107
sort of like that adams quote about being at a party with sparkling champagne?

>>7464182
i dont think you understand

the bear has been hibernating for so long
now hes awake and hes hungry

>>7464211
kek. This bull trap will be talked about for Millennium

WE'RE GOING UP !!!

BURGERS STOP CRASHING THE MARKET T. EUROPOOR

W...was it a double bottom? Are we safe?

>>7464211

intra-day bull trap

>>7464249
>Falling for the bull trap

Bears are hungry as >>7464241

>>7464325
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>>7464325

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>>7464265
It's our market and we'll crash it if we want to.

>Trump tweets about NK, ME & China

Drop incoming lads

>>7464101
Yea... A lot of the hype is already "priced in" and daytraders and such profit taking/swing trading pretty much every day. Pic related last trading day of 2017 and the dip from whales profit taking. (got out at 33 for tax reasons that day myself)

>>7464182

I don't need charts for this topic, I have memory.

> boomer old fuck who has been to this rodeo at least a few times before.

>>7464241
I'm not convinced the US is headed for bear market here. It's a sharp correction for sure but i'm not willing to concede a long term trend break just yet. Revenue numbers coming out below projections =/= BAD revenue for a lot of these blue chips.

>>7464265
Stop being such a cuck and mimicking everything we do.

O B S E S S E D

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>>7458380
I like Planet Money, freakonomics and marketplace morning report.

Not investing podcasts strictly, but they help educate you in the generals of the economy

So why does this "Dow" stock follow the same pattern as rhe Dow but increase 3x as much? Is it a safe stock to buy?