/biz/ - Business & Finance

monero is the only place they can put their money to avoid paying for mustafa and his 12 children to live there

ok great pocket sized country
now do that same research in France, Spain, Italy...

so only 1 out of 30 people?
that's still early

Bubble experts that's all.

source?

>>7455873
Isn't Netherlands good when it comes to capital gains? Maybe it's because of tax tourism

that's 3.4% mate

Dutch are famous for that, yes.

>>7455873
>580,000 out of 17 million people in the netherlands own crypt
>the rest are shitskins too dumb to get into crypto

holy shit every dutchfag owns bitcorn already?

>>7455873

thanks for those meaningless numbers, use a percentage or something holland jesus

>>7455962

Probably much less than in China, India, Bangladesh and so on, where are people are more ignorant and desperate.

>>7455995
Kantar TNS

http://www.tns-nipo.com/nieuws/persberichten/aantal-nederlandse-beleggers-cryptovaluta-geexplod

>>7455873
>research of 45,000 households
>out of 17 million people
Nice sample size.

amount of potheads in Holland 17 mil
amount of potheads using crypto to buy and sell pot 580k
much adoption

> dutchfag here

GF & sister own crypto. Mom didn't want in when I asked her somewhere in august 2016.

You are taking netherlands, to make a assumption where we are in a world wide bubble normie?

Dutchfag reporting.

I know several people that own crypto, but they are all baby holds of a couple of hundred euros. Most of them bought indecember and are roasted now, many pulled already or own even less.

Is still early as fuck, even kn this country

I am also Dutch all my money is in crypto XD

>>7456106
It is indeed a large enough sample.

Well spotted, statbro.

>>7456041
>tfw dutch shitskin
>tfw own crypto
What now, fucker?

So they confirm what we think? Thanks OP

>>7456373
This market needs one more shake honestly. For real despair.

>>7456428

>troll dutchfags for being a country full with shitskins
>shitskin replies

like pottery

>>7456411
The confidence level is only .16 on this poll.

>>7455873
This is late early doors

>>7455873
Article also said almost no one invested thousand or more so a lot of students probably who invested 50-200€. I am the only one of my friends who invested more than tousand (10k) I know of 6 friends personally that they invested but not one of them invested more than 300€ (most got like 0,5 ethereum)

American here. It seems like Nordic countries are always in on the newest cutting edge stuff before anyone else. You guys are awesome.

>>7455873
Research on OPs houshold shows that 1 in 1 people are fags

>>7456484
Colonial history will do that to a country. The past echoes into the present.

Either way, I don't think anyone's particularly upset by what you call "trolling".

>>7456556
Why are my fellow Americans so ignorant. Netherlands is not a Nordic country. It's in Southern Europe.

>>7456530
>a lot of students probably who invested 50-200€.

can confirm, been seeing quite a bit of students with lunch money portfolios.

>>7456674
Studying with a guy who has in excess of 50k in his portfolio.

(TU Delft MSc)

>>7456013
If there is a basic family of 4 with one breadwinner then you have to quarter your sample size. It therefore is actually a big percentage

>>7456650

>muh colonial history

I didnt realize you guys ran colonies in arab nations lol

>>7456674
Really makes me kek they get really exited when they make like 200€ in one month. Also a lot of my classmates invested in Tron verge and ripple. Currently vacation so will laugh at them once I see them again

>>7456712
Tu delft bsc TBM here

>>7455873
How many of them are still just dipping their feet in?

>>7456766
Who said I was arab? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suriname

Either way, it was still the Netherlands that brought over the guest workers from Morocco and Turkey.

>>7456795
EEMCS/EWI here. Most of this department is either from India or China, really.

>>7456712
>telling people about a huge crypto portfolio

not a smart thing to do, i have about €150k in crypto right now, so i know how hard it is not to brag when people start talking about their pocket change cuckfolios, but that shit spreads like wildfire if you tell a couple of people. next thing you know you end up in a van with a bag over your head.

>>7456847
>Either way, it was still the Netherlands that brought over the guest workers from Morocco and Turkey.

ah yes the "guest workers"
when are these "guests" gonna leave again?

>>7456395
XDXD XDXDXD XDxddddddddxdDXD

>>7456849
He's just told me in confidence and I don't spread that kind of knowledge. He's a good guy.

>>7456867
Considering we're at the third generation, I don't think they will. And why should they, they're Dutch now if they want to be and if they don't, they can leave. Either way, could you stay on topic?

>>7456122
LOL, only potheads here are amerifags in Amsterdam

>>7456915
>Either way, could you stay on topic?

I visit NL regularly and see more nigs and arabs than dutch at this point
i just think it is a shame what is happening to your beautiful country

>>7455873
>Research of 45,000 households >580,000 out of 17 million people
How big are the houses?

>>7456747
I'm going to agree first that it is, but I want to ask you relative to what? Bit Coins currencies are in some ways like a stock and that it's a pretty high adaption rate relative to stocks, but at the same time that would be like saying you need to own nintendo stock to play a game even if both of your dads worked there.

These people are adopting trading platforms and a meme, not bit chains, the percentage that will count are the ones who bought into the next facebook or reddit after 100% of the population starts using them.

>>7456986
rotterdam pothead reporting in, we're everywhere man.

>>7457026
You are probably only visiting Amsterdam or Rotterdam, which I agree have become shitholes.

>>7457027
Please be bait or american

nee man je boy leeft in de pijp yupcity en ik vind het kankerlekker hiero

>>7457026
some parts of big cities, especially in amsterdam and rotterdam are a complete mess, it's disgusting to see, i agree. still too many leftists that rule those places.

>>7457232
waar de neuk is yupcity

>>7457296
amsterdam zuid, domme LUL.

>>7457296
De pijp = yupcity

vanwege de vele yuppen, snapt u?

>>7456847
It's the fault of the PvdA.

A.k.a crazy as fuck lefties got the upper hand in the eighties and fucked everything up for everyone.

>>7457361
Ook wel bekend als de snuifas

>>7456462

The next shakeout will occur after the major coins consolidate, then the shitcoins (all 1300+) will turn to dust and we hear of hundreds of suicides on the (((news))), you'll know crypto has matured.

>>7456428

you have to go back

minder minder minder!

>>7455873
source or gtfo

>>7456915

zij zijn niet Nederlands en jij ook niet boefje

5% of Norway owns some form of crypto too according to the latest report.

>>7456661
>Netherlands
>Southern Europe

No dude, its northern Europe.

>>7456650
> t.turkshit

>>7456986
why are Dutch people so conservative? Before I lived there I thought Amsterdam was representative but it's really not. You guys love planning everything to ridiculous levels, never smoke weed or take advantage of your legal prostitutes. Never get wrecked and brawl just for the fun of it. Very unemotional, very level-headed. It sounds good but as a Britfag it took its toll on me after a while. Sometimes you just want to let your hair down without everyone judging you and saying "doe normaal"

Even your furniture is uncomfortable. I can never imagine a Dutch person calling in sick to work and just monging out watching Youtube videos in bed all day or something like that

Too perfect, that's your problem

>>7456501
Check the interval for a 95% and you'll see how it still shows mass adoption.

>>7456556
>netherlands
>nordic country

>>7456986
Nigger please not only does half the population smoke weed but most of the younger population is on creatine or some other performance enhancing drugs.

>>7457730
please say you're from sweden

American. Just reporting in to say I fucking love the Netherlands. Amsterdam was the first Euro City I ever visited and I thought it was the most beautiful place. I’ve never done the prosty shit but it’s a fun, gorgeous city on its own.

I’m happy the Dutch are early adopters. Hopefully Amsterdam businesses can start adopting to crypto payments, and I’ll make another trip back over there ASAP!

Hup Holland Hup

>>7456556
>>7456661
Thanks marxism.

>>7455873
Absolute KeK when all of my fellow dutchies who've made huge money will push towards a NEXIT or we all migrate massively to sunny countries with better tax regulations.

fuck this lefty country.
The course we're sailing needs to be redirected

>>7456661
lol but its western europe
(if you are trolling, good game)

>>7457789
Won't happen, bye.

>>7457758
>creatine
>drug
t. soycuck

>>7457789
because brexit is treating the UK just fine right?
get a load of this kanker mongool

>>7455873
Don't know why you spin this as negative.

it means this isn't likely to be some autistic neet hobby that has a brief pop into the mainstream.

It will likely be alot bigger than the dot com bubble.

During the beanie baby craze of the 90s and estimated 60% of American households owned beanie babies.

>>7455873
>Country that had the Tulip Mania craze is big-time into bitcoins as well

It's honestly just tradition at this point, just look at the internet bubble two decades ago. We even had programs called, roughly translated to English, ''Just say AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'' back in the day.

>>7456867
N-now would be a good time?

>>7456915
>why should they

Because Moroccans are literally the greatest curse on this country. Like, without exaggeration, the Netherlands would have practically NO SOCIAL PROBLEMS without moroccans or antillians.

>>7458991
Don't forget the Turks, bunch of Salvation Army robbing scumbags. They have less class than people from fucking Philadelphia.

>>7458991
how am I supposed to sell my bitcoin without marrocans
you fail to see the big picture here vriend

TU Delft €350k portfolio reporting in

Was €650k at ath

>>7459264
Why are you saying which university you're studying at you fucking NERD

>>7459336
Because im seeing some other TUD posters, dickhead

>>7459264

Another TUDfag reporting, what's the story to getting to 350k?

I'm at 180k right now, disappointed in myself that there's other TUfags out there with more than me

>>7455923
And mustafas children will be financed with monero to truck your kids anon.

>>7458172
Judging on a 2 year basis..
Ja speelt in een markt gebaseerd op toekomst kunnen voorzien door middel van statistiek en algoritme aaneenspelingen.

Je weet van niks. En ik neem aan dat je investeringen ook niet verder zijn uitgedacht dan op een 1 jarige tijdslijn.

veel plezier met de Quantum computing crash , de Hashgraph crash , de deflatie van je investering wanneer het economisch wordt geintegreerd en de speculatieve waarde een spiegel is voorgehouden.


Lees je in , op beiden fronten die ik aanstel . a.u.b voor je eigen welzijn

>>7455873
Makes sense, but then again NL was always open for new things and adopting early, see weed.

>>7459547
Got in with €5k in early 2016 and only held btc/eth/ltc

Could’ve done so much better but meh, can’t really complain

>>7459612
holy shit you started in early 2016 and only have 350k....

you must be fucking retarded holy shit. you didn't once think to take part in any ICO? wow.

>>7456747
That’s not how percentages work.

>>7459671
Tell me all about your shitfolio m8, tell me how smart you are “investing” in absolute shitcoins which pumped on accident.

You and i both know most icos will end in tears and i’m just not a fomoing bitch

Why don't you cock suckers buy Modum

>>7459726
I made more than your entire portfolio off one ICO.

go jump off EWI you fucking disgrace. or at least transfer to eindhoven and take your shame with you.

>>7459756
Your anger tells me otherwise, have a nice day :)

>>7459726
He's not wrong brahseph- you should be a multimillionaire by now.

I started with 1.5k in late august and made it 175k as of today (peak 240k).

I'll probably hit 7 figs before you do because you're too scared to take any risks.

>>7459778
Remember you’ll get absolutely buttfucked in the long run tho, but you’ll be long gone before that happens, ofcourse

This is complete bullshit. Im a dutchfag myself and its about 130-170k people who invested in crypto.

I’m from a post soviet country. Every my friend ironically has cryptos. And in China it is everyone who can afford smartphone.
It is well known rule, the poorer the people the more popular becomes the gambling. From my impression Western Europe is less involved in this scam compared to the Eastern, and further east it goes the worst this obsession becomes.

>>7459671
>>7459726

The not fomoing bitch is right.
All people who take this high risk on shitcoins are then writing and posting their portfolio. But guess? These are 10%, the other 90% who lost cause they invested in wrong shitcoins you never will see. They are crying and wish they just did not take the risk.
Just go with the market and all will be fine. No shitcoins, or at least a very small percentage of your portfolio.
If you are FOMO in shitcoins, you are doing stupid stuff in this just so awesome market.

>>7459899
I'm sorry man. You're wrong.

Not investing in Stratis, OMG, ICX, ZRX, KNC ICO's is just fucking retarded. Plain and simple. I'm glad there are people like you out there, means there's more money to be made for people like me.

I've heard a bunch of normies dumbasses talking about crypto a couple times when I'm on the train.

'ja gozer die tronix is fokking goedkoop jongen alleen 15 cent die kan nog keihard naarboven gast ja en die ripple das ook een goeie gaat sowieso naar 100 euro wacht maar'

>>7460086
"doe normieall"

>>7460086
Twee weken geleden hoorde ik "Ja kheb Ripple rond 2.5 euro gekocht, t ging n beetje omlaag, maar wacht t gaat nog naar tien euro" Rekt

>>7455873
there are 13.5k LINK wallets and I am ranked 597th in ARK with 478 on BIZ_Classic. WHAT do these neanderthal plebs own is the question, probably XRP, TRON and the coinbase coins.

>>7456986
Fuck off M*, us bongs go there all the time to rape your whores and smoke your weed.

wrong
less than 100K ppl own it over there
lots of people are aware
few people own it

>>7457680
too boring, you mean fellow bong. too boring.

>>7457758
>>7458160
this, you faggot. Creatine a drug lmao.

>>7458172
The EU is showing its true colours, they even had a 'how to make them suffer' paper leak. A load of bullshit but glad we did it and ill die before we remain.

>>7457789
NEXIT! GL guys. Go for it.

>>7460027
>I do high risk, because I have so huge brains and know the future.

>>7460605
>I don't do basic research and buy into fundamentally sound projects early before they blow the fuck up.

t. did Kyber, Chainlink, Req ICOs, bought more REQ at 4 cents and bought ICX at 2 dollars.

>>7460605
>any ICO or anything that's not any of the coinbase normiecoins is considered 'high risk'

>>7456003

>Thinking Netherlands has low tax

Americans would have a heart attack if they knew our tax rate

>>7460730
>>7460770
Lel. Interesting you think I suggest to do no research, when I say you should go with the market. This means diversify in several solid projects, instead FOMO in just ONE shitcoins. And I think there you highly agree retard.

>>7460875
I'm pointing out that your perception of risk is entirely out of touch with the realities of the market.

Diversification is a meme for idiots who are content with market-level returns, no point doing that if you're below 100k if you want to make life-changing amounts of money.

From the time I started in late august all the way up until late january I'd never held more than 4 tokens at a time, just focused on fundamentally sound ICOs, undervalued platform projects, and a couple low cap shitcoins here and there for fun.

But then again what do I know, I'm only up over 100x in less than six months.

>>7460807
He's talking about CAPITAL GAINS not income tax

>>7455873
Major ethnic Dutch 79.3%
Minor ethnic EU 6.3%
Turks 2.4%
Indonesian Dutch 2.3%
Moroccans 2.2%
Surinamese 2.1%
Caribbeans 0.9%
Chinese 0.3%
Iraqis 0.3%
Other 3.9%

cursory google indicates that there are plenty of smart dutchmen that have yet to purchase the crypto

>>7461047
I guarantee you, there are people out there who think the same, but now are -90%.
Do not underestimate the stupidity of the market and people buying. Think of Dogecoin.
As said, yes you can make high gains, but this comes with high risk. Nobody can predict the future. House market bubble. Dot com bubble. 99.99% believed in both markets. But you are the 00.01%? The dangerous are things you think you know for sure. Always.

>>7460086
Bontkraagjes?

>>7461813

uitzuigen die smerige untermensch handel.
hier met die uitkering. koop mijn zakken

>>7461813
Ja die hebben allemaal crypto zijn soms slimmer dan ze lijken haha

>>7461047
I diversified and am up 83x in less than 5 months
It was a bullmarket dude

>>7456556
>American geography

Holy fuck

>>7456556
Very trade orientated, when countries are constantly at war among eachother you quickly learn that trade is the most important.

>>7459264
met hoeveel begon u mijn beste?