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>>7357372NEIN
>Let's embrace bread lines just because we're not getting rich with out imaginary coins!
>>7357372>>7357434Hey look, it's the two most retarded political ideologies that have consistently low iq (and equally irritating) followings. I love how you weasels come out of the woodwork right when things get bad
>>7357722Veddit or baitYOU decide
back to your containment website you fucking kike
>>7357779> unironically supporting communism/fascism> thinking life would be any different under the two for 99% of peopleI know it's hard for you to critically think, but read a book sometime you absolute brainlet
>>7358383good taste
>>7357372>>7358414reposted due to some wrong links. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajl7iF5aRO8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493krrer21ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0tEQXIS_0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeMpST74Gpghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QRIGHq1TWohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYFT0pWsxQkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ilmdU3SB-Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxRc6Qx6xZAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCQdGdcrcJkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY7eTU_8-zEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRb-ykWnQeYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUY8TxE7r5ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaQ7fu4OXIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH_0Vzh8m_g
>>7357372*blocks path*
>>7357372hahahahahahahahahaha no
>>7358665https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nr6Qd7M9hEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0ioWLLxa3Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvlQHr590kY
>>7358829here's a better one
>>7357722Not him and I'm not really political so perhaps I don't know everything but people have never concisely laid out and explained why Nazism is bad besides "muh holocaust", which, is dubious and factually spotty at best.I've never had anyone tell me why Nazism as a political and economic ideology is bad/less then optimal.
>>7357434>>7358414SALUTE
>>7357624capitalism had bread lines during the great depression, and good news anon! after the crash you'll see them make a comeback
>>7359381Do you really think the average retard on the internet has any idea of what nazism/communism even is? They've never cracked open a book on the subject in their life. Hundreds, maybe thousands of Political theorists have spent their lives debating and researching the topic. Countless books have been written. Yet, you have dumbasses who don't know what GINI coefficient is, yet they feel compelled to vomit their shit opinions all over everyone
>>7357372Not so fast commies
>>7357372>>7357434GET THE HELICOPTER OP IS ACTING LIKE A KEK AND SOME ANON IS WORSHIPPING A FUCKING MANLET
>>7357372I like eating food and not starving so thats gonna be a no for me dawg
>>7359481good, during massive economic crashes we can get more Fascists and Commies fighting and gaining power
>>7359484As an anarcho-communist I gave up on expecting people to read anything years ago. I understand my position, I've read Berkman, Kropotkin and god forbid even Marx--fuck Marx, he's an authoritarian. I've also read Ayn Rand and Mein Kampf in order to better understand my opposition. All movements need intellectuals anon, it is our job to guide the fuckers towards a better future regardless of our ideology. As to all you other faggots, read up on your positions, their criticisms and actually put yourself in your opponents shoes. Otherwise you're just another brainlet lemming.
>>7359381National socialism. It is rebranded socialism, seriously that is all it is, a socialist government with even more authoritarian power. If you support natsoc you are just as much a socialist as a bernie supporter. Basically the argument is, do you want an all powerful government or not? Communism and natsoc are both systems that give the government godlike powers, completely authoritarian. If you spoke out against either the Reich or the Soviet govt as a citizen you would be executed, no ifs ands or buts. Can Communism and fascism be successful? Of course! The ussr was immensely powerful. But both ideologies lack free trade and free speech, both of which are necessary for economic and technological proliferation. What we can see from history is that free trade and free speech (romans, usa, brits, currently the japs, etc) is the best form of government. Libertarianism and capitalism are the natural human forms of society. Any form of collectivism is a cancer.
>>7359842>anarcho-communist
>>7359889Of course. I'm a Conservative Libertarian. >tfw no small government with an emphasis on civil liberties and free tradeA man can dream
>>7359842you don't have a fucking clue, Marx said the state would wither away, so why don't you read him
>>7359961What's this called but also as an ethnostate with strong outside threat deterrents.
>>7359961>tfw no small government with an emphasis on civil liberties and free tradeliterally only existed when the country was anglo
>>7360014>so why don't you read himyeah 2,5k pages of crazy ramblings, have fun with that
>>7360091I'm ok with an entirely white country 2bh
>>7359922fucking sauce
>>7357372QUICK STOCKS ARE TANKINGWE GOTTA START A FAMINE. BRING THE COMMUNISTS
>>7360092>dude why read what I want to criticize when I can make shit upLibertarians are consistently the lowest IQ ideologues
>>7360138mr potato party I think
>>73600921900s english to difficult four mee
>>7359889>socialism is when the government does stuff
>>7359842>Anarcho communist>An authoritarian state where noone is in charge?
>>7357372For Commies to hang?Finally.
>>7359889I disagree, the nazis called themselves socialists to appeal to the German working class and once they gained power purged all the actual socialists. Fascism in Nazi Germany saw increased privatization and power to corporations. Hitler himself often had to appeal to corporate interests to complete his wartime production goals. Fascism is an authoritarian form of capitalism, but it sure as hell isin't socialism, which would see the end of private ownership. Socialism is a transitional phase in between capitalism and communism, where communism would "theoretically" take the form of a stateless, moneyless and classes society. All true communists are anarchists in this regard, all others are fucking counterevolutionaries but just won't admit it. (How do you magically expect the state to wither away again you tankie fucks?)The U.S.S.R was not a communist country, in fact it could be argued it was never truly socialist either once the Bolsheviks took control. Not asking you to become a communist or anything, but fucking educate yourself because the amount of bullshit spewing from your mouth is unbelievable. By the way, I understand that lefties like me have not actually figured out how to create that ideal society, although that won't stop me from trying. If it blows your mind that there exist communists that support gun rights, denounce the U.S.S.R and want to abolish government than maybe you don't actually know what communism is.
>>7360014>Marx said the state would wither awaywhich never works, and this is exactly the crux why communism doesn't and will never workIt's based on the state giving up power on its own which will literally never happen
>>7357372>>7357434fuck you both thanksbuy the dipstrong support... haha at f-f-f-ive k
>>7360091>>7360122>>7360029> wanting an ethnostate > thinking an ethnostate is even possible, especially in the modern world The vast majority of the world has mixed dna on some level. How would you enforce an ethnostate? What country would want to do business with a country that saw them as subhumans? Who is truly white? According to a lot of poltards even most Europeans aren't truly white, the nazis even thought slavs were subhuman since they had mongol rape blood in them. An ethnostate cannot and will not ever exist, if you looked into history you'd see why it is not possible especially in the modern world
>>7360274>The U.S.S.R was not a communist country,yes, it was, and those that say it wasn't a liberal cowards who care about optics. worker coops are not communism.
>>7360274>be leftist anarchist>get kill by marxist leninistsWill you people ever learn?
Look, just choose whether you're part of the hydra or the man. That's it.
>>7360274>calls Nationalsocialism: >nazim (kike invented term)>fascism (nope) >socialism (implying it means economics and is of the leftist type, both of which are totally wrong)Retard spotted.
>>7359889this is also what i think of commies and reichfags
>>7360425>>7360274
>>7360332very low iq post
>>7360461>>7360425>>7360274http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Naziarchived: https://archive.is/ZZsuvhttps://youtu.be/Jwk2zU_cjCw?t=1m20s1m 20s
>>7360470Nice argument, brainlet. You're too low iq to counter the argument cause you realize now that your ethnostate fantasy is a pipe dream that will never happen or ever be supported by a government, university, or business. Neck yourself
>>7359842>put yourself in your opponents shoesI'm not a communist faggot, so I'm not putting on their AIDs infected anything retard
>>7360461even some afrocentrist website is more coherent than this shit>we wuzzzz socialism n shit not uu
>>7359889>What we can see from history is that free trade and free speech (romans, usa, brits, currently the japs, etc) is the best form of government.EXTREMELY low iq post
>>7360461>>7360425> Being this retardedNazism is socialism you fucking retard, it is a form of state enforced collectivism, end of story. You might as well put up bernie signs, the only difference between bernie and Hitler is that bernie wants to collectivize everyone and Hitler wanted to only collectivize his brand of whites
ARISE YE WORKERS FROM YOUR SLUMBER!ARISE YE PRISONERS OF WANT!FOR REASON IN REVOLT NOW THUNDERSAND AT LAST ENDS THE AGE OF CANT!AWAY WITH ALL YOUR SUPERSTITIONSSERVILE MASSES ARISE! ARISE!WE'LL CHANGE HENCEFORTH THE OLD TRADTIONS,AND SPURN THE DUST TO WIN THE PRIZE!SO COMRADES COME RALLY,AND THE LAST FIGHT LET US FACE!THE INTERNATIONALE UNITES THE HUMAN RACE!
>>7360332>Thinking an ethnostate is even possibleTHere are tonnes of ethnostates, you just don't acknowledge them as such because none of them are white an no non white people could EVER be so racist as to have an ethnostate right??.
>>7360582And where is the Reich then? If fascism and Nazism are so great, how come Italy got embarrassed, and how come Berlin got taken? If nazis were so great how come the entire male population got slaughtered and the women all raped by slavs? There's a reason the USA survived and the shit states like Germany and ussr crumbled. Cause capitalism and libertarianism are the truth
>>7360349I never said worker coops were retard. Communism has been around long before Marx joined the scene. See the diggers -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DiggersBy definition communist societies must be stateless. The U.S.S.R had a totalitarian state, literally the polar opposite. It must be moneyless, once again the opposite, the ruskies had money. It must be classless, Stalin and his cohorts were the ruling class, any historian will agree with me on that. In conclusion. you're fucking retarded.>>7360283As a communist I recognize that, that's why all true communists must also be anarchists. Any other position is logically inconsistent. The other anon up there clearly can't read 2 fucking paragraphs. I mentioned reading Marx and maintain that his theory has been proven wrong by history.
>>7360678Give me an example instead of making shit up. Name 1 country in this world that expressly forbids white people by law. Go ahead.
>>7360759>if x system works why did it fail in 1 instanceIf liberalism works why are wh*Te subhumans failing to breed above replacement rate and are getting BTFO by reactionary arabs and hispanics?
>>7360759>huge populated country abutted by 1 disjointed shithole and 1 huge expanse of land with 5 cities in it is comparable to a state in the middle of other polities facing three industrial superpowers at once
>>7360818>If it's not expressly forbidden by law it's not an ethnostate.Haha yeah you're right, I'm totally free as a white man to go to Somalia. I'd probably be killed on the street but I'm still free to go there, therefore it is not an ethnostate. Thanks for setting me straight anon, I'm trying to book plane tickets now but for some reason most airlines don't seem to want to fly there.
>>7360785>As a communist I recognize that, that's why all true communists must also be anarchists.wrong, retard. In communism everybody owns everything in common, in anarchism ownership is determined by usage. In anarchism, the mill is owned by the people who work at the mill, in communism the mill is owned by everybody regardless of where they work.
>>7360827Liberalism isn't in power dumbass. The entire congress, Supreme court, and presidency are Republican. And what you just described isn't the fault of the Government, no one is forcing white people to stop making babies, that is happening by their own choice. Your argument is so fucking shit it's hilarious. I can pretty much guarantee you didn't do anything after high school
>>7360954>Liberalism isn't in power dumbass. The entire congress, Supreme court, and presidency are Republican.Do you know any history outside of the US or before 1914?
>>7360954>that is happening by their own choice.Exactly. Liberal countries allow liberal people not to breed, killing out liberalism in the long run because authoritarian people breed. If liberalism is so great why can't it last?
>>7360785alright mr. anarchy in an anarchist society whats to stop me from getting some of the pissed off lads down at the pub together, forming a militia, conquering a piece of land with violent force and declaring myself king and the boys nobles? What prevents me from making you a serf?
>>7360759>libertarianismnot him but what's libertarianism's plan for the hordes of shitskins looking to get in for free gibs and subversive leftists trying to achieve that.
>>7360931Somalia isn't an ethnostate you brainlet. It's a poor shit country, if you went there you'd be robbed cause you're from the first world not inherently cause you're white. No country in the world right now is an ethnostate by law. That was my argument and it's true. You lost. It's ok, maybe study a bit next time
>>7359889Another epic über retard. Nationalsocialsm does not mean "nationalism + socialism" -- if you believe THAT is what it means, then you're a fucking brainwashed retard. You're just as retarded as Antifa and Hillary supporters. First off, it's not "Nazism" -- It's Nationalsocialism. HUGE difference. And Nationalsocialism is 1 word: it's not "nationalistischer sozialismus" -- "nationalistic socialism". For fucks sake, try to understand this, it's not difficult. Nationalsocialism simply means "being social about your nation/ethnicity/blood and soil" -- in other words; Natsoc makes nationalism; blood and soil; the people; the soul of the land; into a social movement. Think of it as "social"-ism, instead of "socialism". It soaks/drenches/colors/infuses the entire social structure and society itself IN all of that mentioned above. It's about the People and the Nation and Culture and Tradition. And removing all foreign/alien/hostile elements which doesn't belong in your culture, in your land. THAT'S IT! It has absolutely nothing to do with "socialist economics" or the government being "socialist" see also: >>7360461 >>7360425 >>7360274>>7360514a good docu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUYp0AR2A3Mpic is from the "Day of German Art" in Munich.
>>7359889Another epic über retard. Nationalsocialsm does not mean "nationalism + socialism" -- if you believe THAT is what it means, then you're a fucking brainwashed retard. You're just as retarded as Antifa and Hillary supporters. First off, it's not "Nazism" -- It's Nationalsocialism. HUGE difference. And Nationalsocialism is 1 word: it's not "nationalistischer sozialismus" -- "nationalistic socialism". For fucks sake, try to understand this, it's not difficult. Nationalsocialism simply means "being social about your nation/ethnicity/blood and soil" -- in other words; Natsoc makes nationalism; blood and soil; the people; the soul of the land; into a social movement. Think of it as "social"-ism, instead of "socialism". It soaks/drenches/colors/infuses the entire social structure and society itself IN all of that mentioned above. It's about the People and the Nation and Culture and Tradition. And removing all foreign/alien/hostile elements which doesn't belong in your culture, in your land. THAT'S IT! It has absolutely nothing to do with "socialist economics" or the government being "socialist" see also: >>7360461 >>7360425 >>7360514a good docu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUYp0AR2A3Mpic is from the "Day of German Art" in Munich.
>>7360931>I'm totally free as a white man to go to Somalia. I'd probably be killed on the street but I'm still free to go there, therefore it is not an ethnostate.I mean, you'd probably get killed on the street regardless of your skin color. Yay colonialism for basically sponsoring people on shit countries killing each other.
>>7361110>>7361202you are so fucking stupid you can't even copy and paste your shit right.
>>7360954>Liberalism isn't in power dumbass. The entire congress, Supreme court, and presidency are Republican.read a fucking book Liberalism doesn't mean democrats its a fucking ideology that includes any party that supports western style democracy and capitalism
>>7361202
>>7361075>Thinks he & the lads can run an effective fiefdom>Thinks he & the lads won't starve shortly after they realize that they don't have any viable skills & no one wants to extend the offer of mutual aid to a 16 year-old warlord.
>>7360785if you're an anarchist just call yourself an anarchist. drop the communist branding. i think some kind of organization aka government is inevitable. it's best to keep it decentralized and communism always centralizes power through "the peoples" government.the founding fathers of the united states knew the dangers of centralization. should just reboot that plan and follow the constitution. but whatever gets done obviously whats going on now isnt sustainable
>>7361110You should be sterilized for your low iq. Socialism, noun: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.A system that advocates distribution of resources for the whole... that is natsoc you absolute autist, the only difference is that the "whole" is the German ethnic "whole". It is socialism that is meant for a specific ethnic group, that is it. By the very dictionary definition you are wrong, natsoc is socialism just for a very specific community.
>>7361202>>7361265
>>7361277ayy im not saying me and the lads would be good kings all im saying is that a few pissed off drunk guys with guns could completely overthrow an anarchist society.
>>7359922(you)
>>7361314>>7361265>>7361202
>>7359889>But both ideologies lack free trade and free speech, both of which are necessary for economic and technological proliferation. If this is true then why was Germany the most technologically advanced country at the start of WW2? Even after the war their scientific advancements were used as the foundation of the space race.
>>7361363why would a village allow a bunch of pissed off drunk guys to wreck their shit? and why would neighboring villages tolerate it? and why wouldn't we send your pictures to villages, towns, and cities across the country to avoid doing business with you. what then mr smarty pants.
>>7361413This is not true, by all accounts the US was the most advanced nation by the start of WW2
>>7361363Completely incorrect. People would defend their respective properties and villages, brainlet.
>>7361202>>7361265>>7361314>>7361405https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkwy9WZEVSA
>>7361363That's assuming:1. You're the only ones with guns.2. You have a monopoly on ammo and it's production, which would be pretty difficult to secure in a society predicated on the abolition of property.
>>7360274The only non-retard in this thread
>>7361363>every single person in the village older than 12 knows how to handle a firearm and defend themselves>everyone over the age of 16 owns a firearm>every male over the age of 18 is tasked with defending the villagehave fun trying to take out 2 dozen well armed, determined and trained men defending their homes and families. you'd need double their number or armoured vehicles to get the job done
>>7361456>>7361512Army with hierarchy > unruly anarchist mobDid you people learn nothing from getting absolutely BTFO in the Spanish civil war by both the nationalists and your own tankie allies?
>>7357372Commies can't meme for the life of them. Just give up
>>7361363theoretically everyone on an anarchist society would also wield guns as a means of deterrencealas, i fail to understand why wouldn't the guy with the larger number of guns wouldn't rule the landno anarchist has ever explained how they would avoid from someone invariably attempting to fill in the vacuum of power left by the lack of state-sponsored violence. i mean i guess you have to assume that you would have a way to get those guns in the first place, but not being able to secure a means to do so on such a society just sounds like turtles all the way down to me.
>>7357624
>>7359842>anarcho communist This literally doesn't exist. How do you make sure there's no private ownership, everyone gets everything they need while contributing however they can, and the means of production are seized without an authoritarian power? You don't expect everyone to just contribute out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? What about psychopaths? At least one out of every hundred people would not take part in the scheme and keep everything to himself. And there would be no state or authority to stop them.
>>7359690T.permabulk
>>7360424
>>7357372*Runs a patrol...
>>7360425
>>7358923>>7358923https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwgIwjhEvI
>>7360270Its libertarian socialism
>>7361657Community defense and federations of communities for the purpose of defense would fill that vacuum. Horizontal organization is a lot easier to scale for basic common goals. Most people don't want people stealing shit or murdering folks so it's in our common interest to work together on that front. Beyond that a lot of violent crime is caused by ignorance and poverty, not malice.
>>7361620Seems like anarchism could only work if almost everyone wanted it, which they currently don't, what defense does it have against people just saying "hey we want a state now, lets make one".
>>7361824lol phil greaves and red kahina always crack me up
>>7361506How so? Might be because I'm half asleep but I'm trying to find something all I'm seeing is manufacturing processes. The Germans had equal or better guns, better planes, better tanks, submarines.
>>7359495Schützt eure Heimat! Heil Deutschland! Heil Hitler! Sieg Heil!
>>7361558>>7361314>>7361265>>7361202regarding >"And removing all foreign/alien/hostile elements which doesn't belong"https://youtu.be/oEEffBeUTcU?t=51m15sin above video go to: 51m 15s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbd_DuKiTo
>>7361834>Community defensei don't want to be a stubborn nerd but how is that different from the current monopoly on violence held by the state
>>7361841anarchism describes a lot of different ideologies. anarchism is in practice in many places in the world. ultimately, anarchy is about consent to the ruling order. unlike the social contracts of typical states, where you're locked in by your place of birth and ancestry, anarchism would mean that youre free to participate in whichever society conforms best to you. want to move to the fascist blood and soil country you identify with halfway across the globe? go ahead. want to live in the workers commune in a post industrial western city? thats just as fine
>>7361918also related:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0Ucaqzw2Iskip to 3:10 -- his in-depth documentation of the many differences begins there.
>>7361202Good to see you admit your ideology isn't even in the slightest bit socialist and amounts to feels>reals. But hey, even in home life the Soviets took care of the family far better then you ever did, so there's that.
>>7362065
>>7361637i'm not even a anarchist or communist. i'm just saying in the situation provided where a few drunk assholes with guns tried to take over a village it probably wouldn;t work.
>>7362057so the generalplan Ost was fake then?
>>7361986right but whats to stop the blood and soil guys from taking your shit? There has never been an example of a conflict involving anarchists where the anarchists didn't lose. >Paris communeBTFO>1936 spainBTFO>1920's Ukraine BTFO by own alliesIf a system is unable to defend itself why would anyone want it?
>>7362109
>>7362065i take solace in the fact that it is only one shitty nazi in this thread and everyone is ignoring him, that's a first one on biz, tell ya what.
This is what ((( L6O5TCZu ))) wants for your children.
>>7362139youre describing very small anarchic states were quickly overwhelmed by statist forces. most of the anarchic societies we will see in the future are not possible right now. we live in a world dominated by capitalism, and the united states. its hard to imagine anything else, but the world will change for the better or die trying
>>7361091Against
>>7362102>Marxism places no value on the individual>Literally talks throughout his books about the self-interest of the individual
>>7361971a couple of differences. The really obvious one is that in anarchist systems, like in Rojava and Chiapas, communities are defended directly by those communities. That means that you actual know the people who are on patrol on a personal level, and occasionally you fill probably that role as well.The other difference is that the current systems that exist in most of the world maintains a redistribution of property away from laborers and towards a ruling class of people. (This isn't a group that all agrees on everything, or shares a singular interest, or is even necessarily entirely aware of their position. They're just the current benefactors of land theft and colonization programs that were all the rage in Europe from around 1500 to 1900.) Its not possible to both engage in community self-defense and maintain this system, as its obviously detrimental to the vast majority of communities.
>>7362153
>>7362253>literal demonsWHAT THE FUCK!?
Take note of the subtle "Life Rune" in the background. It's all about the family unit, nature's laws, and the promotion of health - and extending that to entire nation. Nationalsocialism is far more than politics; it is a worldview. > It is the biological worldview: https://archive.is/flXVzhttps://archive.is/kM3bX
>>7362300>women get raped>boomers get murdered>streets are lakes of fire and rivers of blood>boys get to become cute girlswe can never escape the effects of patriarchy...
>>7362146Nothing beats a good ol fight between the two largest retards in the world
>>7362270>most of the anarchic societies we will see in the future are not possible right now.>My ideology is currently impossible>I am making a prediction that at some point in the future it could maybe be possibleAlright my man, I don't really understand the point of having an ideology if you know its not really viable and there is only a chance it will be viable in a hypothetical future. Seem like something a little more implementable would be a better call.
>>7362139anarchists have been winning a lot of recent battles... in chiapas, in the zads, in rojava...
More examples of usage of that rune.
>>7362065>But hey, even in home life the Soviets took care of the family far better then you ever didMore like hovel life.
>>7362253Tolerance and acceptanceWithout mutal understanding we would be killing each other because we hate ourselves and murder whom see as inferior.
>>7362472>>My ideology is currently impossible>>I am making a prediction that at some point in the future it could maybe be possibledidnt say this. im not even an anarchist :/
>>7362368Anarchism inexorably leads to feudalism.Source: the first time it happened (Bronze Age cities arose out of prehistoric anarchy)
>>7357372kys subhuman
>>7362300Pure propagandist bullshit.
>>7362479>>7362427
>>7362253>Posts liberals
>>7362519>Anarchism inexorably leads to feudalism.except educated and empowered people would not allow themselves to become serfs
>>7362569Boi it's happening right now.
The swastika itself, is an ancient WHITE symbol which is at minimum over 6000 years old, very possibly 9000. It originates in Europe.
>>7362519> I have a master key to historygo back to your cup and handle TA bullshit
>>7362481Keep believing that
>>7362619>except educated and empowered people would not allow themselves to become serfsTell that to the city fathers of Carthage. Although technically they were just killed. It was their women and children who became serfs.
>>7362634> pic and video relatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEYb64-_mEY
>>7362477>implying the mexicans wont be eliminated once the state has someone competent running it>implying that turkey and syria will tolerate the existance of rojava once isis is dealt withIll start to believe its possible if I ever see anarchists actually manage to defeat statist in anything other than the short term.
>>7362610if you cherry picked those examples some more you'd be a bolivian cherry farmer
>>7362655It's happened 100% of the time. There has never been an anarchy th
>>7362669and nazis wish they had won the waryour point?
>>7362674the city fathers of carthage led a mass of illiterate peasants. those people were not empowered, and could not have a constructed an anarchist and free society for themselves
>>7362516>Tolerance and acceptancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpof96pVx-c
>>7362693>>7362634
>>7360818Liberiahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia#Ethnic_groups>The Liberian constitution restricts citizenship to people of African descent.And they based their constitution on the US model, being founded as a nation for freed blacks from the plantations. The first US naturalization act passed by congress limited citizenship to free white men of good character.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790European nations didn't have to do this, because they had been near-homogeneous white for their entire existences barring the past few decades of kike-sponsored and capitalist-enabled immigration. Although it should be noted that basically every country in Europe up until the past 150 years or so, many even later, barred Jews from holding citizenship, and heavily restricted them (e.x. Russian Pale of Settlement).tl;dr fuck you, you dirty fucking boomer kike.
>>7362655It's happened 100% of the time. There has never been an anarchic period that did not give rise to feudalism/hierarchy.
>>7362726As much as the quote rings true, Aristotle never said that.
>>7362722Ok. Please give me a historical example of an empowered people who would not allow themselves to be turned into serfs.
>>7362403You think that's bad? like, that's all? (((They))) themselves are as close to real demons as possible. Imagine, a smelly old rabbi biting the foreskin off a newborn baby and drinking the blood. Also see related pic.
>>7362669http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/over-half-of-austrians-think-the-nazis-would-be-elected-if-the-party-was-readmitted-to-politics-8528218.html
>>7362368thanks dude. certainly sounds a lot more sensible that way, at least in a small scale. i'm familiar with communal defense in latinamerica somewhat, but with a few exceptions, they always either invariably get crushed by the state or absorbed by the state force, in some cases subemployed by actual criminals (i.e. autodefensas). certainly wish there were more examples that haven't been crumpled by the state/need to remain within a very specific area due to the probability of state intervention
>>7360818Haiti genocided all the White people on their half of the island and forbid Whites from living or owning property there for like 150 years.
>>7362427>Claim to care for the family>Depress wages to by 40% "Read wages of Destruction" and "Fascism and Big Business"
>>7362403>>7362837https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7lhWp7G9rAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SRhr2STdeMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKIM75UXaI
>>7362714hasnt happened to Rojava, Chiapas or the ZADs. They're still around right now. Didn't happen to Ukraine, Spain, or the Paris Commune, which were all crushed and merged into Marxist-Leninism, Fascism, and Bonepartism respectively. Didnt even happen to the primitive societies.Didn't even happen to early communist societies.Feudalism pretty much develops exclusively out of collapsed empires... which makes sense considering feudalism is characterized by multiple claimants to an empire FEUDING over who's claim is legit
>>7362960>Putting Adorno in there>The most conservative of the Frankfurts
>>7362960>>7362403https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4axVYZ7NP8
>>7362959>fascismWe're not talking about Mussolini's government here. But since you seem so interested in it, why don't you read "Fascism Viewed from the Right" by Julius Evola?
>>7359889
>>7363027>hasnt happened to Rojava, Chiapas or the ZADsHasn't happened yet so it won't happen ever. lol. Isn't Rojava about to be conquered by Turkey? Chiapas is literally a state of Mexico unless you mean some random group of jungle mayan commies that haven't been conquered because they have nothing of value. ZADs are regularly evicted by police are they not?>Didn't happen to Ukraine, Spain, or the Paris Commune, which were all crushed and merged into Marxist-Leninism, Fascism, and Bonepartism respectively.So it did happen.>Didn't even happen to early communist societiesWeren't these crushed by the state/other commies or collapsed on their own (and then the people went back to normal heirarchical society).
>>7363128>>7363170>>7363187>>7363233nobody cares lol
>>7362843Imperialism is fucking powerful, unfortunately, and there's no guarantee that any resistance effort will actually succeed. Some do, some don't. The economics which underlie imperialism make it unsustainable, though. There are tensions inherent to capitalism that we really have not figured out ways around, and they just keep getting worse. The tension between labor and automation, for example. Or the tension between the natural limits of the environment and capitalism's need to expand rates of consumption in order to fuel increasing expectations of profit.Unfortunately that development of those tensions to their breaking point is probably not going to be pleasant for the vast majority of working class people. We're in for a rough ride, but through community organization, self-defense, and the reclamation of our workplaces, there might be a light at the end of the tunnel.
>>7363096>Evola>Literal Sexual energy manWow its literally nothing
i just lost $40,000. my wife is going to divorce me
>>7363249Is 'fuedalism' to you just a stand in for 'oogy boogy bad stuff'?
>>7359889The nazis purged the socialists from their party you fucking moron.
>>7363187lmao nobody gives a shit you faggot
It's time to kill all communists
>>7359481Great depression was massive government intervention thoughLol
>>7363267>1 post by this IDHello Schlomo! >>7363413>1 post by this IDHello Cohen!
>>7363385To me it's hierarchical structuring of society. When society is a pyramid basically, with those on the higher levels 'exploiting' those on the lower levels. I don't literally mean kings and knights and shieeet.
>>7357722Resentful losers are always gonna demand the rest of us "gib free stuff".For the losers:Enough of these murderous political ideologies, time to take responsibility for your mistakes.
>>7357434>>>/out/
>>7363267then why reply you dumb cunt
History lesson: a small part of what the jews did to Germany before Nationalsocialists even existed.
>>7357779>...and here we have a specimen who wouldn't survive a day under an ideocracy, it remains so useless and delusional as to unironically suggest he would prefer such a nightmare scenario.
>>7359481>and good news anon! after the crash you'll see them make a comebackBASED
>>7363671Now post all the articles by (((economists))) saying why we NEED immigrants for muh GDP
>>7363510TIL we live in feudalism right nowNo one is saying that communism doesn't fail to defend itself from the state sometimes.You said: 100% of time it collapses into feudalism.Several communist societies exist right now, so its clearly not collapsed 100% of the timeIt's literally never collapsed into feudalism because that makes all of 0 sense.
Just a small example of (((cultural marxism))) in action. Shit like pic related is what the NSDAP wanted to prevent. If the natsoc movement in the USA in the 30s had succeeded, and USA never went to war against Germany or WW2 simply didn't happen, then NONE of the sick moral decay and destruction of culture and tradtion (and of people themselves) in the USA or Europe would exist today.
>>7363783Now post a thread on /pol/ where this discussion can be continued. Please read the sticky and have a nice day kthnx
>>7359842>tl;dr
>Arguing Marxism is Jewish>Almost all the idea's the Nazi's took were from Jews
>>7363783have very few such articles saved and don't know where.
>>7363932>Bolsheviks were Jewish
>>7359842>ancomwew lad to the helicopter with u
>>7363905
>>7363905>>7363961
>>7363961>>7363905
>>7359842> fuck Marx, he's an authoritarian. -dude's most prolific texts are literally econ textbooks about capitalism that have nothing to do with how authoritarian he is or isnt-supported the paris commune-called himself a proudhonian-Endorsed Warren's market anarchism"marx is an authoritarian" is a dumb ML meme
>>7359889>Libertarianism and capitalism are the natural human forms of society. Any form of collectivism is a cancer.How do you rationalise collectivism being unnatural when humans are inherently tribal?
>>7363961Zionism is Jewish nationalism, the idea that Jews need to stop leeching off of other countries and create their own state. Obviously, the globalists don't like it. Nice smoke and mirrors regarding the Bolsheviks, how about you show the demographics of those IN CHARGE? Overwhelmingly Jews. Take the recent senate election in Alabama as an example of this bullshit--about 75% of the votes for the Democrat were from blacks, and yet the power brokers in the state party are basically just Jews and shabbos goyim, alongside a few token blacks.
>>7360168You're just upset that you're a brainlet that cannot refute libertarianism
>>7363979>imagine believing graphs with fake sources
>>7363979Literally just debunked this>>7364053Lenin wasn't even a Jew by the Nazi's own laws on it>>7364015>Literally wrote a book called "On the Jewish Question" addressing his dislike of Jewish culture
>>7364063all socialists need to be killed anyway so it doesn't matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to3hJzfWFYU
>>7357372
>>7364092Humans are a mix of individualism and tribalism.It's actually quite complex.Commies are retards
>>7363599>Using Black book of communism stats, a book the authors admitted to making up>Using this as an argument when the Nazi's targeted and slaughtered Catholics in Poland
>>7362960ok but why is mike jones in that pic
>>7364155>be wypipo>be free>freely choose not to breed>africans that don't give a fuck about muh liberties vote for gibs and gubmint>overtake crackersLibertarianism is autophagous
>>7364240>>7364200>>7364053>>7364015>>7363979
>>7360014>Marx said the state would wither away
>>7364105>Implying most non-western communists aren't also anti-zionist
>>7359842>As an anarcho-communistthe absolute fucking state of /biz/
>>7364275
>>7364562
>>7364593you mean statelessnesst. another ancom
>>7364602>>7364562
>>7364562>Using this as an argument for Marxism as a whole
>>7360785I wouldn't trust an ancom to shine my shoe and would rather fill a trenchload of you with machine gun fire than let one get elected dogcatcher
>>7357434Close but not quite.Kill both the communist and the banker.
>>7364598https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvlQHr590kY
>>7364642>Luxembourg, Malta and Cyprusw-what happened?
>>7364598>>7364773
>>7361831ancoms can't show their work. F
>>7361834you forgot greed because you are literally brain meltingly retarded and should just kill yourself for getting this far
>>7357434>falling for the eternal Germans Every thing is an excuse to murder white Europeans to these unaccomplished thugs.
>>7364773>Neo-Nazis =/= National Socialists>But every communist has to accept every liberal that walks through there door
>>7359381National (((Socialism)))
Holy shit, I didn't realize so many retards seemed to have form their entire political ideology based off of pictures from /pol/. Proof of a mass conspiracy now only necessitates about 100 retweets and likes on Twitter in order for these losers to believe in them, that's incredible. If there was a massive Jewish conspiracy, I wouldn't be surprised if these alt-righters were the largest piece of the pie. I mean, how can you possibly explain the one picture stating that "critical thinking" is a part of the Jewish conspiracy? LOL
>>7363695it's worth it even if I die, provided it gets us off the planet. American fascism is necessary but not sufficient for that. Of course it can go wrong. Gotta be careful
>Here 2 /pol/tards derail a thread with shady infographsI really wish any /pol/ posting could be banned outside of their board, Moot was right this site turned to shit
>>7364726The NSDAP was against Capitalism (they were not against private ownership; they were only against the idea that life and society should focus on gaining material wealth and they were also against corporation becoming corrupt and causing harm to society and the people) and Socialism (duh), and they were also against Democracy (democracy today is a buzzword - it does not equal Freedom or Justice, as so many have been brainwashed to believe) -- because all three are tools of the Jews. and regarding the pic, before some shill comes and spews bullshit about how the NSDAP was for "gun control" -- here is that debunked: https://archive.org/stream/TheDr.WilliamL.PierceCollectionvideopartial/GunControlInGermany1928-1945-Dr.WilliamL.Pierce_djvu.txthttps://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/is-gun-control-a-nazi-scheme/
>>7365309>Derail a thread about communist garbage>This is badFucking kill yourself.
>>7357372So you guys put all your money into a pyramid and then you lose all your money you blame capitalism?
>>7357434Hitler was a fuckin socialist you troglodyte.
>>7364949>1 post by that IDSee this: >>7361202(and the related answers to that)
>>7361795Feels good to be the country that invented the practice.
>>7365371>Takes a meme post seriouslyTheres a reasons collectivists target people with autism
>>7357372Never
> redpill regarding Merkel: Angela Merkel is not a German. She's not even a "German" Jew. She's a Polish one. She was born as "Angela Kasner" and the family's original name was Kaźmierczak - a well documented Jewish surname. It was an occupational name for a cantor in a synagogue. The name was derived from the Hebrew Chazan, and it also spelt Hazan, Khazan, Chasinoff, Khazonovich and Chasins.Angela's father Horst Kasner was a Communist sympathiser and mother Herlind Jentzsch was a Communist and member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany. Merkel was educated in East Germany and leader of the official, Communist-led youth movement Free German Youth (FDJ) at the Academy of Sciences in East Berlin from 1978 until 1989 thus well-schooled in Jewish Bolsheviks Marx, Lenin and Trotsky (Bronstein).Beyond leading the Young Communist League, Merkel also held high rank in the Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschland (SED), which was the leading Marxist–Leninist party of East Germany. Members of this party enjoyed ‘special privileges’ denied to ethnic Germans in East Germany after WWII. For example only closely trusted members of the Communist party (SED) were allowed to travel to western countries and Merkel often travelled to West Germany and other Western Nations. Merkel has visited The Jewish terrorist organization know as Israel four times.(cont...)
>>7365442We must crush every communist post, meme or not.
>>7365473continued:On 16 March 2008, she arrived in terrorist Israel to mark the 60th anniversary of its occupation of Palestinian land. Merkel has supported all Jewish Israeli terror initiatives and opposed the Palestinian bid for membership at the UN. In March of 2008 the Jewish B’nai B’rith organization presented Merkel with their Award of Merit for ‘services’ to their community. She received the Coudenhove-Kalergi award only 2 years later in 2010. The prize is given every two years for "exceptional contributions" to the European miscegenation process and is named for the Hebrew speaking mixed race Richard Nikolaus Eijiro von Coudenhove-Kalergi.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=westm8bmf2EAs a Jew, Angela Merkel considers the German people as racial aliens to be exterminated. By destroying the Germans, Angela Merkel is exacting her vengeance upon her sworn and eternal enemy, while furthering the Jewish plan to exterminate the White race. After the Jews have destroyed the White race, they will proceed to exterminate the Muslims. Once they have eliminated their two greatest rivals, the Jews will enslave all of humanity. This is precisely what their Talmud teaches.
>>7365352It has been estimated that between the advent of Not Socialism (January 30, 1933) and the summer of 1935, wages were lowered from 25 to 40 percent. More than half of the German workers make less than 30 marks a week. The Angriff admits that the monthly wage of the worker varies between 80 and 150 marks. If the official figures are to be believed, 80 percent of the workers earn less than 150 marks a month. Hitler himself has to concede that "the living standard of countless Germans is utterly insufficient," and the Bavarian Minister Wagner that "many German workers suffer from hunger." Furthermore, all sorts of deductions have to be subtracted from these wretched earnings: wage taxes (increased from 25 to 35 percent), municipal "poll" taxes (more than doubled), bachelors' taxes, contributions for unemployment insurance, disability insurance, health insurance, contributions for the Labor Front, the Strength Through Joy association [recreation organization], Winter Relief, anti-aircraft defense, victims of industrial accidents, the party or the Hitler Youth, etc. These various deductions lower the gross wage by from 20 to 30 percent. On the other hand, social insurance benefits (illness, disability, accidents, old age, unemployment) have been greatly diminished. The labor mutual assistance and insurance associations have been dissolved and their funds turned over to private insurance companies that pay smaller benefits.Read The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy
>collectivism is bad>individualism is badpost-left baby. at least the left got the critique right, if not the praxis
>>7365409>Didn't read any of the Frankfurt SchoolTell me where writers like Adorno said this
>>7365459here's a higher quality version of that photo.
>>7365309It was a shitpost thread to begin with bitch.
>>7365596Did you read any further into the thread you turbo autist?
>>7365473>>7365507pic related
>>7360274>communism>a 80 IQ moron earn the same than a 135 IQ smartassFuck you communism
>>7357372>>7357434>socialismget the fuck out
Will /pol/ ever stopping acting like anyone takes their shit seriously?
>>7365751A rapidly growing amount of people are taking the truth very seriously.
>>7365538yeah those commie economies sure did great.
>>7365795the soviet union had wage labor, and the state functioned as a market, and therefore i would want it's destruction as much as i want the destruction of every other state.no gods, no masters.
>>7359889>NationalSocialism lack free tradeThis is utterly wrong. Private business and a free market existed in NatSoc Germany. It is just that it had to be in line with what is good for the people and nation. So no blatent exploitation of nature and people for example. So prevent exactly what goes wrong with capitalism.Yes there were huge work programs, like the autobahn, but since they didn't need to borrow money at bergstein and bergstein, the net result was actually positive.
>>7365790>Thinking a fringe shitposting board represents the truth or populace Everywhere Ive ever shitposted at never takes /pol/ seriously besides people with literal autism and I mean literal autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4axVYZ7NP8
>>7365852so what critique did they get right?
Cultural Marxism in action. The goal = destruction of White race; (((their))) #1 enemy.
>>7365983
>>7365922Man you have absolutely no fucking idea do you? Our propaganda is hitting exactly where it is needed and is frighteningly effective. Interacted with any Gen Z lately? I do fairly regularly in my job and a significant percentage are redpilled as fuck to the point of fanaticism. They see a world with no future for themselves and latch onto the only place that offers hope.Seen where 4chan is on the list of websites based by traffic? Remember that /pol/ makes up a lot of that.
>>7365893>It is just that it had to be in line with what is good for the people and nation.Yes, and also it's important to remember that the war by necessity brought on a higher level of government control than otherwise would've existed. For example, the control of the media was tightened (anything negative/pessimistic regarding the war or anything which could lower the morale of the people or the soldiers were forbidden to be published). If war had not come, or had ended in say 1941, then people would have a different view/idea/picture of how "controlling" the German government was.
>>7365937the critique of political economy. whether you agree with the deeper implications or not, Capital exposes the inner workings of capitalism.
It's like 2012 /pol/ in here, I wish they still cared about infodumps instead of buzzword memes
>all these hens clucking about politicsNo wonder /biz/ is the fastest low-quality board on this dumpster fire of a site.You're all idiots.
>>7365096>Doesn't know that the alt-kike and related media is infested with kikes.
faggots
>>7362300>unironically posting baby-boomer facebook memes
>gee i wonder why
>>7366107>Disregards all site polls >Cites tide pods eaters as growing force behind movements through anecdotal evidenceThis is why you have a containment board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvI4zvMSWlY
>>7366419
>>7366434Id fuck that beautiful chink
>these are the type of """"people""""""" discussing finances and tech
https://youtu.be/ViHnSZ2sWZE?t=2m24s
>>7366444The youth are the future dickhead, do you have a brain?
>>7366482Literally a total of 4 samefags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksl580Rha7E