/biz/ - Business & Finance

there are winners and losers to every policy

The great depression happened under a democrat.

>>7336069
>2% growth

>>7336115
This.

>>7336069
we know

>>7336135
The stock market crash of 1929 (and 2008) happened under Republican leadership dumbfuck

>>7336827
kill yourself
Hoover used democrat policies
FDR expanded on those policies and the depression lasted over 10 years

lol brainwashed idiots

>>7336069
Shit like this is how I know 4chan is a Reddit colony now.

Enjoy your 2% growth and race baiting

>>7337365
It is veddit crossposting. People have been posting biz screencaps there and they want to see what its really like here

Flood country with shit brown people, corporate labor costs go down, profitability goes up, every gets fucking miserable and dresses like shit, say anything about it, you are a racist.

Yay Democrats.

Reddit was right, should've been Sanders

>>7337757

Why are you blaming the workers instead of the corporations?

Serious question

>>7337154
>gets btfo
>d-democrat policies!

OP is correct, but this is troll bait.

There's no correlation between their policies and better economies. Oil and technology shocks were the main causes, and the major ones post WW2 happened during dems in power. There's no indicator that either party has any major effect on the economy. Take your partisan politics bullshit >>>/pol/

>>7336069
And for civil rights
And for healthcare
And for gun regulations
And for new energy investments
And for education
etc..

>>7337848
because they’re foreign shitskins

>>7337848
Because a corporation is a collection of workers.

It's not hard anon.

I know its hard for brainlets to understand, but stocks are tanking because the economy is good enough that the Fed is going to stop holding down interest rates to artificially promote growth.
In other words, the Fed is signaling that the recession is over and inflation will be increased.

>>7337855
Litterally was tho

>>7337936
Are you fucking retarded? Do you think a worker just shows up at the door and say "I'm working here now". It looks like a case of lazy fatasses unwilling to do the work that need to be done and blame it on the people who will do it. Throughout the Mid-West and Alaska there are $20+/hr jobs with barely any training required but soft-handed faggots like you aren't willing to do it.

>>7337909
>>7337936

No I mean, why aren't you blaming the corporation for hiring immigrants instead of middle class americans?

>>7337848
These immigrants come with low IQs and their huge, even lower-IQ families, they live 15 to a room and have much lower standards of living, these brown hordes vote for big government policies that require taxing the shit out of the goyim, reducing Whitey’s ability to have children, further dragging down the IQ of the country, bringing us closer and closer to a white minority status, where murderous monkeys run wild in the streets just like Brazil.

Even if certain economic indicators go up, so what. If we’ve wrecked a nation it’s not worth it.

>>7336069
donal drumpf bad

>>7337848

Corporations are owned by normies and normies vote Democrat. Anyone can hold majority shares in a Corp.

The government is just the errand boy of those same neoliberal corporations.

>Nixon
Recession
>Reagan
Recession
>H.W.
Recession
>W.
Recession

B-but muh fiscal responsibility!

>>7338082
>middle class americans
Nobody blamed them you fucking retard, though the term is probably just meaningless political propaganda to you.

>>7337848
I dont blame the workers, I blame the government that imports workers to supress wages for the benefit of their corporate masters.

>>7337902
>civil rights
Get in the fucking oven

>>7338153
"fiscal responsibility" to republicans is "fuck you, got mine."

>>7338168

Holy shit do you brainlets still not know what I'm asking?

I'm asking, since it's greedy corporations who choose to hire cheap immigrants instead of hard working Americans, why are we blaming the immigrants instead of the corporations who hire them?

>>7336069
I still laugh at the thought that people unironically like Trump
And people call coiners deluded

>>7338278
"Fiscal responsibility" to democrats is "Hey, give me that"

>>7338300
>cheap immigrants
>middle class americans
???????
You're a fucking retard. Admit it in a reply to my post and I'll address your retarded ass point.

>>7336069
take it to /pol/ faggot

>>7338421

What the fuck are you even saying? Is english your second language?

>>7337154
Depression would've lasted longer without those policies. Hoover did basically nothing to stop it.

Also, if you look at debt/GDP ratio, It's always Republicans that increase it more than democrats do, even when they inherit healthy economies. They also borrow more too.

>What's particularly jarring is this is the first time borrowing has jumped this much (as a share of GDP) in a non-recession time since Ronald Reagan was president

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/03/the-u-s-government-is-set-to-borrow-nearly-1-trillion-this-year/

>>7338300
>since it's greedy corporations who choose to hire cheap immigrants instead of hard working Americans

yes, and WHY do they do that anon?

because the government makes it too expensive/not worth it to hire actual citizens. it's a symptom, not the problem

>>7338300
Anon you expect logic from literal retards that get fluted by racist propaganda.
If we were 100% real then we would rise against the robots right now because machines are taking over most jobs.

>>7338300

>>7338495
You are wrong. Unless the government puts wage raises for every job themself you won't see companies ever picking up lazy first worlders that want more pay.

>>7338495
Thanks for addressing my point unlike those brainlets earlier.

>too expensive/not worth it
But CEOs make millions of dollars every year, you're saying they can't afford a few dollars more per hour to hire Americans instead of immigrants?

>>7338153
>Attributes Lyndon B Johnson's recession to Nixon

>>7338278
"fiscal responsibility" is the Republican code word for borrowing more money and increasing the government debt to fund tax cuts for their wealthy donors.

>>7338639

Trump shouldve done a JFK and lower business tax rates but increase it on the wealthy

>>7338109
He is bad. MSNBC, CNN and NPR told me so. I hate corporations and government though.

>>7336135

>>7338478
wrong. unemployment was already dropping, then skyrocketed to double digits after FDR intervened.

>taking more money out of people's hands is better for the US economy
yeah, you're beyond retarded

>>7336069
kys. "Taxes are good for the economy"

>>7338478
>They also borrow more too.
Which one borrowed more than Obama, again?
>>7338639
>much tax cuts for da wealthy!!!!
Who the fuck else would get a tax cut? The poor assholes that don't pay taxes in the first place? Bitches like you threw a fucking fit when W gave everyone a tax refund because "THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE MOTHERFUCKERS THAT DIDN'T PAY NOT NONE NO TAXERS!"

>>7337902
>pro civil rights
>anti gun

do you braindead socialist even realize your own contradictory positions?

>>7338463
You admitted being a retard without even realizing it, so I'll accept it.
We're blaming the Democrat government for not enforcing immigration law, you're the one who makes up some mythical contradictory hard-working illegal middle class American to distract from your party's abrogation of the law. And blaming "the corporations maaaan" for not following laws that the government shows no interest in enforcing is the stupidest shit.
I'm not really writing this for you btw, this is for anyone else who's reading this. It's wasted on your retarded ass who can't distinguish between illegal immigrants and middle class Americans while you desperately flail in an attempt to stay on-point.

>>7336069
> live in "free" country US
> talk about "democracy"

> have no other choice except dems or reps
> get voting right taken away by garrymandering

mfw a simple x-ray image costs >500$ without insurance, basically a life necessity at this point.
Nice politics you got going there, bros...

>>7336069
Go see DJIA and compare periods of democrat presidency and republican presidency, then come back

>>7338153
>attributes clinton's housing collapse to bush jr

>>7338628
>But CEOs make millions of dollars every year, you're saying they can't afford a few dollars more per hour to hire Americans instead of immigrants?
Yes. Race traitors, rich or poor, need to be shot. The real question is why do white democrats/liberals shill for nonwhite immigration when it hurts the working class?

>>7338863
So negotiate it down. Fucking TALK TO YOUR DOCTORS. That's a god damn sticker price for negotiating with insurers, not set in stone.

Reminder that this is actually real

>>7338813
>can't distinguish between illegal immigrants and middle class Americans

My ENTIRE POINT is literally asking why we're giving corporations a free pass to hire illegal immigrants instead of middle class Americans.

Also I'm not a democrat, in case my responses haven't made it abundantly clear, retard.

>>7338789
>What's particularly jarring is this is the first time borrowing has jumped this much (as a share of GDP) in a non-recession time since Ronald Reagan was president

Borrowing money makes sense when it happens during a recession, both parties do it. However, bush did most of the spending and borrowing during his last years as president, which means most of it fell on Obama's two terms.

The thing with Trump though, is he had the luxury of not having to face the USSR in the cold war, or the fallout of the Great Recession and the deficit spending from the last administration. So Trump has basically zero excuse for why he is borrowing as much money as he is. Maybe he's just doing what benefits him the most, and doesn't really give a shit about his supporters?

>>7338992
Looks like it.

>>7338989
Talk to your doctors?
Negotiating about basic life necessities?

I don't know, this one guy I know went to europe without insurance, went to the ER, after 20 minutes got an x-ray and paid 60$...
They say in india it's 5$...

They just set the price and the insurance pays it. What's there to negotiate? Being efficiant is their job, isn't it? Making people healthy and stuff...
Well, go get your opium, lads.

> sample size: 2

>>7339175
>this is too expensive but I don’t want to negotiate
Stay cucked I guess. And something tells me $5 indian medical care isn’t as good as something first-world.

>>7338300
just block immigration then

>>7339165
I can totally see everything thanks to your shitter compression.
Next time try with an ifunny watermark.

>>7339087
>My ENTIRE POINT is literally asking why we're giving corporations a free pass to hire illegal immigrants
Because we can't mass deport the illegal immigrants because that would be "racist" and we can't punish businesses that hire illegals because that would be "racist" as well. Why do think people get mad over shit like sanctuary cities? Its because illegals can artificially drive down wages because they can't be deported.

There is no incentive for corporations to follow the law if the government won't enforce the law. Shit, cali just made it illegal for employers to give legality status of employees to ICE.

>>7339165
how the fuck is anyone supposed to read that when it's so pixelated

>>7338759
Taxes funded the creation of technologies like the internet and integrated circuit. So yes, it can be good for the economy.

>>7338863
>basically a life necessity at this point.
How can something that hasn’t existed for thousands of years become a necessity?

If it was really as necessary as you think, you’d get fucking insurance

>>7338953
So white immigration doesn't hurt the working class?

>>7338802
what gun control legislation did Obama pass ? You gun freaks think anyone who doesn't want you to conceal carry in nurseries is anti-gun.

>>7339175
>I want things for cheap or free and I can't even be bothered to ask for a discount
Well fuck you then, faggot, tough shit.

Are we a product of our environment or is our environment a product of us?

>>7338300
It’s not immigrants fault, it’s the government.

No one blames Mexicans for wanting to just walk into America and live it up, and no one blames corporations for wanting to cut cost, but both are the result of poor policy making and bad law enforcement

>>7339470
Are the dems talking about putting that money into the NSF or NIH or DARPA? No, they want to spend it on diabetes medication for obese niggers.

What if I told you that the presidency has little effect on the economy

>>7339642
you are what you eat

>>7339606
He didn't pass anythibg because he didn't have the votes. He actively promoted totalitarian shit like magazine bans.

i dont like blumpf he is meanie

>>7339606
Also there's no reason to not allow conceal carry anywhere, including a nursery.

>shut up shills, MAGO!!! MIGA!!!

>>7336069
Drumpfy boy is goinhg down

>>7339580
It does, but it doesn't hurt the country culturally as much, which is the real effect. I singled out "nonwhite" because that's what the left pushes for. I don't see dems clamoring to give amnesty to Europeans. The "nonwhite" part is why the US will become Brazil or South Africa 2.0.

>>7339606
Him getting on tv crying about the 2nd amendment and getting the media to push that da real terrorists are white christian gun owners was just for fun.

>>7339165
>shitty pixelated graph
>blaming the effects of the Great Recession
and boomers retiring due to old age on the democrats, even though they have no control over it
>not blaming Republicans when they have more control over the debt during a healthy economy.
>not realizing that during healthy economies, Republicans actually increase the US debt faster relative to the GDP
>under healthy economies, democrats actually decrease US debt or keep it the same relative the GDP

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

>>7339580
How many white immigrants take jobs vastly under the standard pay?

>>7339259
>>7339641
Lol!
1st of all, the x-ray machines in India are bought from US factories...
2nd, it is about a fucking basic medical service. Just turn it on and look at the fucking screen. How can you all defend this insanity?? Worldwide insurances usually don't include the US because of this shit.

I don't know, it's just strange that most americans are so proud of the "democracy", the "freedom" and are even defending the most obvious fuckery like I described.
This was a simple example how people get fucked over.
I didn't get started on the whole "free country" meme, or "democracy".

>>7336827
Clinton deregulation of mortgage lending under the guise of giving poor people houses allowed and encouraged 2008. Literal fact.

>>7339696
/thread

>>7336135
Hoover was a republican dummy

>>7339935
Getting fucked is having half your paycheck stolen at gunpoint to give free meds to retards.

>>7339911

Polish

>>7338478
Yeah, the first thing those freaks in Congress did, after crying bloody murder about the deficit for 8 years, is blow a trillion dollar hole into deficit so their rich donors could make back their investments.

>>7338789
>Who the fuck else would get a tax cut?

How about they just don't do a tax cut.

>democrats

>>7338712

I thought republicans were the ones that hated (big) government?

>>7339259
Nah Indian medicine is good. Homeopathic medicine. The problem with health in America is how we educate and advertise health and fitness. You as a country preach for people to be healthy yet every fucking commercial is KFC, McDonald's, and other nonhealthy restaurants or food products. HEALTHY PEOPLE = NO MONEY FOR BIG PHARMA AND CORPORATIONS WHO FUEL THE UNHEALTHINESS.

>>7340081
Same desu

>>7338300
Because you Democrats suck so much nigger dick you do everything in your power to de-europeanize the USA, open the borders, and shut down anyone trying to restrict immigration.

>>7336069
There are no Democrat not Republican presidents, only Zionist Presidents

>>7340081
WE ARE REACHING LEVELS OF CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE

>>7340146
>>7340081

>Anno Domini 2018

>Communists in the American Republic.

>>7337795

>>7338742
Care to find me that data?

https://www.infoplease.com/business-finance/labor-and-employment/united-states-unemployment-rate

Only link I could find, that shows the data, and it shows the exact opposite, unemployment dropped after new deal policies were enacted and took place 1933-1937

>>7340280

>Communist Kike that purchased a vacation home and a used (lol) Audi R8 with your donation money: only to cuckold himself to Clinton.

>>7336069

obvious b8 could not be more obvious

>>7340323
>haha look i post lies online to make me feel better about myself

>>7339741
He did during the first 2 years in office.
>>7339791
I agree, when some fat redneck accidentally discharges his gun the infants will stop anyone from getting hurt by absorbing the bullets.
>>7339850
You mean when some gun nut shot up a elementary school or church for the xth time that year he got on tv and said maybe we should have background checks or something.

>>7340068
I didn't ask for an ethnicity.

FDR's death led to the end of the great depression.

>>7340383

>>7340208
Communism is the Chad ideology.

Once you get past the innacurate memes and cold war talking points it's not all bad.

>>7340046
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA

You know half our money goes to the military?
You know we pay for education x10
You know there is no public transportation
Pay here, pay there, gettin' ripped off left and right, while the rich get richer and move to Hongkong or Singapur or some shit.
While you are stuck with your maga hat and drugged up children.
If you like going into debt if A) you have an accident or B) your kid wants to go to college...
well, be it so

>>7338011
sure, its all about rate hikes, same as you worried about the dollar getting stronger while it ‚silently’ appreciated 30% against the euro right? Money is fleeing to bond markets after Donniebwoi pumped up the bubble. As of now this is nothing but a tiny correction, dow at 18k was just yesterday

>>7340081
Activate it.

>>7340455

Except for the millions of deaths it causes.

-t Volga German living in America with degrees in Russian Linguistics and History.

>>7338056
Saft handed faggots indeed! 90% of my guys are brown, they put their head down and get shit done. Tried hiring white kids, muh I'm gonna be rich, muh it's hard, muh I'm tired. Sorry fags, come at me when you learn how to WORK a 40 hr week

>>7340383
No he posts lies online because that is his job.

>>7340131
THIS
most americans can't cook.
That's why they are constantly browsing /fit/.
Haven't seen fresh veggies for months now... raise your hands faggots

>>7339696
Trump actually proposed to cut the NIH and NSF budget.

>>7340666
good

>>7336069
Are you retarded? Why am I asking... yes, you are retarded.

>>7337848
Its the government greed kikery and disconnect of the eternal boomer we blame. The workers are invaders the will be handled as such.

>>7336069
when too much democrat, its unsustainable.
when too much republican, buy the dip

>high taxes, redistribution of wealth, bigger government, more bailouts, less freedoms, bigger welfare state, everything more expensive, more regulations, gud for everyone.

>>7339580
Exchange rate. lack of jobs u are dump faggot pseudointlligent roastie/cuck/boomer?

>>7336135
That's like blaming the janitor for cleaning the bathroom, when a frat boy shits in the sink the night before. Since you're a republican, though, maybe you think what I just said is fair.

>>7336069
AIDS is better for your health.


At least better than being shot in the head.

>>7339696
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090508/full/news.2009.457.html

They actually have. for you.

>The budget also directs $141 million to NIH research on autism

>>7336135
Herbert Hoover was a Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

>>7340484
Just dont be a normie and fall for every meme. You need an x ray go to mexico oer europe for an operation just be smart with ur mone and skip out on college use free resources and ur firne. Whhy is this board turning into "how to live the essay?"

>>7340546
your problem is with tankies, not communism :)

>>7339983
Clinton was a right-leaning Democrat whose centrist Neo-Liberal policies doomed this country.
I’m not a Republican or Democrat, trying to act like one party is responsible for all the problem and the other is innocent is objectively retarded.

>>7340970
They also blame the massive increase in government debt under Obama. when most of it was the result inertial spending from Bush's own stimulus, bailouts, tax cuts, and Iraq war spending.

>>7340926
> has one of the most expensive health care in the world
> doctors selling him opium like drug lords
... fucking brainlet

>>7338086
This.

A handful of people get rich and the west goes to shit. Whats the point of even having money if the nation is a ruin and your people have vanished.

>>7340427
>hurrr all people with guns will do is shoot innocent people!!!!
Kys retard. Fucking accidents happen that doesn't mean you should restrict someone's fucking rights because of it

>>7336069
The average person in America is making less after Obama than before. Household debt reached the highest levels in US history towards the end of Obama's presidency. The economy was literally stagnant under Obama until the Republicans took the house and Senate.

>>7340484
Defense is less than 15% of the federal budget you brainlet normie. Most of the budget is benefits.

>>7341158
I am not falling for the meme.
I've got everything I need here. I know you can't believe it, no american does when I tell my friends how it is.
Even my 100% coal and nuclear free electricity is cheaper here then any offer in the US... had to send a guy the website for proof the other day. So I won't start.

The x-ray was just an example, because we buy US machinery, but pay only a fraction (w/o insurance)

And most americans don't realize that we got those ideas from you guys!
Unions, workers rights, freedom of the press, healthcare, ... shit, even caring for the poor and shit.
It's just like an upside down world now... don't know what happened - maybe "patriotism"...

>>7337154
You don't know anything. Give up

>>7340455
Chads hoard Stacies and embrace inequality.

Communism is the virgin ideology.

>>7341553
>My country is better than yours because the cost of living is lower, nevermind that between shitty pay and horrible taxes that I have no disposible income and never will

>>7341488
>blaming the decrease in household median income on Obama when the trend happened before his presidency in 2007
>giving credit to the Republicans for it increasing when they actually do nothing but cause gridlock.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N

>>7336135
>Implying republicans or democrats even remotely resemble the parties from a few decades ago.

>>7336069
Lol communist cuck. Your girl is getting anal rammed by Jamal at this very moment.

>>7336069
>Politics is Democrats vs Republicans
Is it 1998 again?

>>7341502
"Federal spending can be divided into non-discretionary and discretionary items. In the case of the former, spending is mandated by law, such as payment of the national debt. In the case of the latter, the federal government has discretion in how it spends our tax money."

So it's like 0.26$ per 1$ tax money, but half a dollar in discretionary spending.
Calculate the missing trillions of $ the pentagon can not acclaim for, the spending goes over half the $ in total.

But nontheless, its 6 times more then china pays.
And 12 times more then UK, russia and france each.

Also, trump has signed a bill last week, which prevents congress from controlling the CIA. So they now don't have to say where the money is going, and congress is not allowed to shut down programs.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF TOTALIARISM.
AND NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT.
The CIA is loose, I'm not going to the US for a long time man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCB6RvRojIQ

>>7342041
>I'm not going to the US for a long time man...
Based Trump.

Tell your friends and family to stay the fuck away, too.

>>7341810
>Democrats increase public spending, debt and taxes
>Republicans cut taxes without reducing public spending which leads to debt
>Repeat

It's been like this since 1900

>>7341810
Implying there is any difference between the two parties.
America is not much different from North Korea (except that those are poorer). Candidates, debates, voting it's all just a show to keep the sheep entertained.
Panem et circenses

>>7336069
Objectively true

http://www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/DemRep_BlinderWatson_July2015.pdf

>An extensive and well-known body of scholarly research documents and explores the fact that macroeconomic performance is a strong predictor of U.S. presidential election outcomes. Scores of papers find that better performance boosts the vote of the incumbent’s party. In stark contrast, economists have paid scant attention to predictive power running in the opposite direction: from election outcomes to subsequent macroeconomic performance. The answer, while hardly a secret, is not nearly as widely known as it should be. The U.S. economy performs much better when a Democrat is president than when a Republican is.
>Section 1 documents this fact, which is not at all “stylized.” The superiority of economic performance under Democrats rather than Republicans is nearly ubiquitous; it holds almost
regardless of how you define success.

>>7340536
MASS STARVATION ENGAGE

>>7341773
Ah man, you nationalists...
The country I live in is NOT better.
The people are NOT better in any way too.

But I pay less for better medical services here.
And I pay less for a clean electrical bill (no coal or nuclear).

I think it's important to point that shit out!!
What the fuck is wrong with you? Nobody is better, it's just nice to have security without debt for example...

>>7342205
>America is not much different from North Korea

>>7336069
>implying economy will be important after your people already replaced by niggers

>>7336069
The federal reserve stopped printing money = democrat owned fucknig autism

>>7342144
I am!
I am showing everybody that the CIA is loose now.
It was smuggled in in the tax bill! Look it up.
This is serious shit!

>>7342331
> I am!
continue to do so.

>>7341773
>he still doesn't know the taxes are cheaper than paying private companies

>>7342041
>defense is most of the budget if you arbitrarily don't count most of the budget
ok.
>Also, trump has signed a bill last week, which prevents congress from controlling the CIA
...You do know where bills come from, yes?
>I'm not going to the US for a long time man...
That's worth every penny

>>7342252
1. We have the best medical care in the world, bar none.
2. There's nothing wrong with nucular you fucking retard. It's safer and cleaner than god damned windmills.

Wait... people don't actually believe in the modern USA's leftism do they? Especially not on the chans...

>>7342869
leftypol is raiding. You can tell from how one unironically used the term "tanky"

>>7336827
>>7341145
>>7340032
They switched sides.

>>7341461
No I agree. If a few kids have to die so I don't have to leave my gun in the car, well, that's the price of freedom.

>>7342869
are pajeets people?

democrats hate their country anyway so isn't it natural they want it to die both economically and culturally

>>7342986
not quite. Democrat's economic policies pretty much stayed the same relative to Republican policies, but the Democrats ended up losing white southerners to the Republicans.

>>7342954
>waaah people disagree with me it must be a raid
stormweenies are nu-4chan

>>7342986
Democrats were always for handouts and state enlargement, at some point white people stopped voting for handouts so they had to appeal to negros.

>>7343248
You glow in the dark, you socialist nigger

>>7336174
Better than 2 years of great growth and several of negative growth

People overemphasize the correlation of the president with the economy. Sure, there is some effect, but it’s one very small factor.

In my opinion the current US president was not very wise in stamping his name on this economy, because it means he is going to bear the consequences of something he does not control. If the market swings the other way, people will be associating the problems with his policies even though it may be completely unrelated.

>>7338478
>"Depression would've lasted longer without those policies."
>the absolute state of public education
FDRs polices turned a recession into a depression. The only reason America exited the Great Depression is because WWII forced FDR to abandon most of his bullshit.

>>7343341
sorry for imposing myself on your safe space

>>7338989
>That's a god damn sticker price for negotiating with insurers, not set in stone.
It is illegal to charge a different price based on who is paying or how they are paying. But no one will prosecute people in the medical industry for this widespread practice. It seems attorney generals don't even know the fucking law any more.

You retards have to at least admit that Obama was a class act compared that obeso walrus you have elected

>>7343444
You should be sorry.

>>7343591
>abusing FISA courts to spy on political opponents
>"class act"
He belongs in prison.

>>7343591

obama was a literal foreign agent

>>7342256
Democrats and Republicans are the same people. They do business together, intermarry, and solve their problems together somewhere in Aspen. The rest is just a shitshow for you. But, elite never changes these same people rule the country for the last 200 years.

>>7343661
>he thinks the jews havnt been pulling the strings for 500 years now

LOL

>>7343525
No it isn't.

>>7343435
>The only reason America exited the Great Depression is because WWII forced FDR to abandon most of his bullshit

By increasing spending by about 6 times more than the New Deal.

In the end, the new deal actually increased the GDP. It only dropped once spending cuts were enacted, but increased again as the result of massive war spending.

https://www.thebalance.com/unemployment-rate-by-year-3305506

>>7336069
FACTS:

>OBAMA INHERITED A SHIT ECONOMY AND TURNED IT INTO A GREAT ONE
>TRUMP INHERITED AN AMAZING ECONOMY AND IN JUST A SINGLE YEAR TURNED IT INTO A SHIT ONE.

PROVE ME FUCKING WRONG, BIZ.

>>7344118
No, ww2 economy sucked. FDR's death ended the great depression.

>>7344244
Obama inherited a shit economy that was at the absolute bottom already and couldn't possibly get worse.

>>7344334
Nope, the great depression ended in around 1940, FDR's death was in 1945.

>>7344552
> solve unemployment by sending the unemployed to their death
War economies are not good.

FDR's death was necessary for economic recovery.

>>7336069
True

>>7336135

>>7336115
Yeah the rich get tax breaks under Republican regimes and the economy proceeds toi crash.

>>7338368
>democrats r taking from me

>>7344671
>spending more money and going deeper into debt
>better

>>7344649
Never said that it was, only that it pulled us out of the Great Depression.

That said most economists agree that economic stimulus do work. Which is why every president since FDR has practiced deficit spending during a recession.

http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/economic-stimulus-revisited

>>7345015
> That said most economists agree that economic stimulus do work.
Most economists agree with what they were taught in economics class. Stimulus spending being good has been taught in economics class since FDR. It's regime flavor nonsense.

>>7336069
Lol no

>>7346148
Nice way to crop out the crash party fanboy

>>7344964

maybe we should stop spending money on dumb stuff

>>7344964
There was a fucking surplus under Clinton you dumb animal

>>7336069
I dont think quantitative easing did anything good for the long term.

>>7338153
the president is basically a figure head most economic policy happens in the senate. check what party was in control during those recessions

>>7340172
>you do everything in your power to de-europeanize the USA

white americans have more in common with black americans than they do with europeans