/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7288036 wtf is usa doing in 1 - 1700?

Cultural decay, moral relativism, Marxist infections, military industrial complex, and the intentional dumbing down of the population through public education.

Jews

>>7288036
Why did you leave your containment board?

>>7288219
>Cultural decay, moral relativism, Marxist infections, military industrial complex,
>marxist
This is peak society of the spectacle.

>>7288171
nothing

>>7288223
/thread

>>7288223
This

High taxes. Over regulations. Diversity. Empowering women.

>>7288036
How would they even know data pre 1700s lol

Nice try to have an intentionally manipulative graph but the US's position in the world economy is more then fine

>>7288219
>Cultural decay
Inevitable with the decline of the nobility. Will lead to a higher culture.
>moral relativism
Good thing for the amoral
>Marxist infections
Good thing for eveyone not a marxist
>military industrial complex
Good thing for those who aren't pacifists N.B pacifists aren't people
>the intentional dumbing down of the population through public education.
The masses should never have learned to read or had any power in the first place

Why are people so dumb they can't read charts?

>>7288423
>Nominal
Into the trash it goes. Nice try, amerimutt.

globalism increases competition amongst everyone, thereby spreading out the amount of money that at one time only flowed within the west

the west prefers 'cheap' products and services over more expensive 'quality' ones

impediments to business such as taxes, regulations, and accounting standards make operating in non western countries more profitable overall

improvements of technology increase inequality, minimum wage laws also increase inequality. improvements in technology 'create' unemployment by making lower order work unnecessary. this increases demand for higher order work, but the supply doesn't necessarily change. minimum wage laws are an insidious tool of population control, as there is now a minimum requirement of 'skill' to even participate in the market before you can participate in the market to learn the skills necessary to be better in the first place

anyway, next time you shop at walmart look in a mirror

Social welfare was a mistake.

Read this book https://www.amazon.com/Welfare-Nations-James-Bartholomew/dp/1849548307

>>7288036

Democrats. Not joking.

>>7288423
you are kind of being shortsighted here since you are looking at one years information instead of a historical perspective.

>>7288036
> % of global GDP
> must add up to 100%

The West is growing like it always was. The rest of the world just stopped being at zero.

>>7288036

> why is west dying

WHY?
Because murifats are ignorant and dumbed down by (((them))) . Eurofags got destabilized by western "intervention" ...that didn't work well, while murica was jewed down, europeans still knew their roots, that's why muricans decided to destabilize middle east, to bring terror and fear to eurofags.

...now eurofags are fucked too because of low-IQ murifats.

FUCK JEWRICA, it's cancer.

the rich are fleeing due to
regulation and socialist governments

>>7288036

HOL UP WHERES AFRICA? WHY ARE WE NOT REPRESENTED? DAS RACIS! WE WERE PRODUCTIVE AS WELL! WE BUILT PYRAMIDS N KINGDOMS N SHIET WHY IS THEY NOT ON THE CHART?

How about:

Growth depends on effective resource allocation. When a country is allocating resources inefficiently, it has a lot of room to grow. The more efficient it becomes, the harder it is to grow, so growth slows down. The US and EUW are already very efficient, but chinks, sand niggers and the like can get easy gains by copying the efficient states.

>>7288036
>hand manufacturing to 3rd world
>allow immigration from 3rd world
It's a fucking mystery.

>>7288561
>The West is growing like it always was. The rest of the world just stopped being at zero.
Not true. The West isn't growing as fast as it used to be and non-western countries are now growing at a much, much faster rate.

Overregulation and taxes

Included in this is every form of Marxism, etc.

Your x axis is all kinds of fucked up

>>7288036
>Why is the West dying?
you know why...best regards from /pol/

>>7288219
This

>>7288036
Europe also had almost 20% of the population in the early 20th century. Now it has 7%

>>7288645

This is the crux of the matter. But things naturally even out so it was probably a matter of time.

Yeah China is just a heavenly place since its GDP started rising

Jews are getting poor

>>7288036
>china was at its poorest from 1950-1980

I wonder what happened during those years

>>7288036
What happened in the 1700?

>>7288219
What the fuck does moral relativism and Marxism have to do with GDP decline? Can you show the causal relation?
Marxism and moral relativism are incompatible by the way, considering Marxists are materialists.

Imagine being this retarded and uninformed. Back to your containment board. /pol/acks are beyond retarded, it baffles me every time. They're still not on SJW level retardness though

>>7288036
ppl don't have enough babies

>>7288775
No, things don't naturally even out, that's never been how anything on this planet has ever functioned.

>>7288557
>doing TA on historical graphs
jesus christ /biz/ you really need to get your shit together

>>7288036
>Why is the West dying?

>>7288838
>What the fuck does moral relativism and Marxism have to do with GDP decline?

Moral relativism leads to nihilism which removes internal (fulfillment etc.) motivation for work.
Marxism removes external (money) motivation, as you can get paid doing a bullshit job or being a NEET -- both options are a net GDP sink.
Also the state and/or you wife can take your children willy-nilly, which removes yet another source of motivation.

>>7289112
>Moral relativism leads to nihilism
Which leads to overcoming nihilism after overcoming morality. Which is the beginning of being a good shitcoin trader and person.

>>7288838
Things like minimum wage, taxation, and regulation all can come from that ideology dumbshit
>what is affirmative action
>what is virtually all corporate law
>what is progressive taxation
>what is laws around discrimination
>what is welfare

>they're incompatible
Since when does cognitive dissonance not exist?

>>7289158
>what is affirmative action
>what is virtually all corporate law
>what is progressive taxation
>what is laws around discrimination
>what is welfare
All necessary to keep the slave classes content.

>>7289150

> assuming everyone can get to the ubermensh stage

>>7289214
Who cares about everyone?

>>7289112
>>7289214
and for the record I on't even like Nietzsche I'm just adding in the parts of his ideas that you are borrowing from that you conveniently left out.

>>7289158
The welfare state. Which you might recall was created by german conservatives and upheld by their neoliberal descendants in an attempt to damage control for capitalism.

>>7288171
liberals

So far all of the answers have been Jew scapegoating, Lolbertarian retardation, and /pol/ack MUH SJWS, MUH NIGGERS, MUH MUSLIMS, MUH IMMIGRANTS etc... I expected better from /biz/.

>>7289278

>don't like Nietzsche

stop lyin boi you know you love the man

>>7288649
China will stagnate soon percentage wise. Harder to grow 9% the larger your gdp becomes.

You can always recover. See China.

>>7288936
This only in the capitals of nations that haven't heard of integration.

>>7288036
non-whites and the fall of religion

>>7289240
>Who cares about everyone?

Me.
No man is an island.
We're talking about nihilism's impact on GDP.

>>7289158
Keep going /pol/ski, I'm laughing my ass off. Which ideology are we talking about? The ideology of moral relativism? (if you are smart you will get this joke)

Marx preached the abolition of private property, also known as 'communism'. Now... when private property is not a thing anymore, so is corporate law, taxation and 'welfare' (not sure how you use this term). You Amerifats will parrot anything as gomnisum, but have you ever taken two seconds to learn what Marxism is actually about? I'm not a big fan of Marx, but your reply shows your utter ignorance and you should either
1. Kill yourself
2. Educate yourself

>>7289310
>German conservatives
There has never been a time in the history of the world where Germans were thinking in terms of free markets and private property

They're ultimately ground zero for the cancer killing the West

>>7289423
I'll just refer you to my point about cognitive dissonance

Leftist have no consistent principles about anything, it makes no sense to say that they are incapable of holding two conflicting beliefs

>>7289416
Both are mutually exclusive.

>>7288036
Poltards are truly the most pathetic pieces of trash.

>>7289434
What about the Austrian school of economics? Don't tell me an expert on Western culture does not know the Austrian school?

>>7289503
Divergent from German authoritarian autism

>>7289585
What? I know it is hard for you to formulate a sentence, but what are you trying to say?

>>7289416
wh*Tes are disgusting soulless and godless people though

>>7289333
It dosen't matter whether I like Nietzsche or not it doesn't change the fact I was trying to call out the anon for borrowing parts of a great thinkers ideas and conveniently leaving out the important part so he could restructure them to fit his ideas.

What I am doing is like how Nietzsche didn't acknowledge Stirner's influence because it was in his best interests not to appear to be influenced by someone not taken seriously by his peers.

>>7289469
Where is your argument? I won't deny that much leftists suffer from cognitive dissonance (think about the identity politics of pro-hijab feminists), but there are lots of leftists philosophers and intellectual with consistent views. But I guess they're not leftist then? I really do not understand what you are trying to say.

>>7289615
I don't understand what you're asking me to distinguish? When did germany implement Austrian economics?

>>7289664
triggered amerimutt detected. how does it feel to be an inferior subspecie?

>>7289677
The poster said the ideas for the various motivations behind the various forces destroying the country ultimately are coming from moral relativism and notions of Marxism

You asserted that can't be the case because they are mutually exclusive

I'm saying leftists have the ability to hold two mutually exclusive beliefs and this isn't a counter to the argument

>>7289328
>simple answers can't be true

>>7289702
>There has never been a time in the history of the world where Germans were thinking in terms of free markets and private property
I showed you a German school of thinkers who thought in terms of free market and private property. 'What does thinking in terms of' actually mean? Do you mean that in the entire history of Germany people do not know what property and free market is? Do you mean that Germany lacks a free market? If so, why? Your points need arguments, which is hard when you come from the /pol/ echo chamber

>>7289727
He is right though. Modern day western society is the most blasphemous, atheistic, hedonistic society mankind had ever seen. There is literally nothing religious about Western society. That's why they despise Muslims so much. The y actually practice their religion, unlike modern day white ''Christians''

>>7289469
Leftist have no consistent principles about anything, it makes no sense to say that they are incapable of holding two conflicting beliefs
>>7289757
>the ability to hold two mutually exclusive belief
You should really read Baudrillard. I doubt you are capable of understanding his work but you might at least learn to stop autistically screeching "COGNITIVE DISSONANCE".

>>7289757
Any person has the ability to hold two mutually exclusive beliefs. So this means that all people will do so, i.e. actualize that ability? I really don't get what you're trying to say. Read some history and come back.

>>7289831
>Modern day western society is the most blasphemous, atheistic, hedonistic society mankind had ever seen.
And also the most successful. Makes you think.

we ching chong now

>>7289856
He won't read Baudrillard, that's a postmodern French philosopher and the /pol/ boogieman told him that those are actually the Jews killing the white race!!!!!!!11

>>7289801
And I said the type of thinking that supported Austrian economics was divergent from the traditional German thinking.

Germany shows signs of thinking in free market terms doesn't equate to functioning under those terms

Nowhere does the government assert private property or markets should be independent of the government

One could argue that the Austrian school isn't something you can implement, which can be conceded, but it's plainly apparent that the various governments of Germany, and by extension the people, have never made that type of thinking any sort of priority

>>7289831
true

>>7289831
>There is literally nothing religious about Western society
>implying two thousand year old values and culture suddenly disappear
The West is very religious, just without a God. We worship capital and the self now.

>>7289874
>And also the most successful. Makes you think.
>Think that being a degenerate makes a society successful and not the opposite
>knows nothing about the end of empires
t. brainlet

>>7289856
What are you even trying to say? That cognitive dissonance has nothing to do with conflicting thoughts?
>you should read x
It's funny that every time somebody like you cannot convey their beliefs you just refer somebody to a book, as if the argument can be deferred to another time.

So, what part of my post was incorrect?

>>7289874
Not really. Most of the West's success comes from a time when they were extremely religious and conservative. The modern day West is simply riding off that success.

>>7288838
Found the faggot from leftypol
your kind will be killed soon, start worrying

>>7288171
moron

>>7289862
Sorry I'm speaking colloquially, I'll couch it in autism qualifiers for you

"Leftists are *especially* capable of holding two irreconcilable political beliefs at the same time, therefore a criticism that they could not draw inspiration from two irreconcilable beliefs to implement policies with holds no water"

"It doesn't matter that Marxism and moral relativism are incompatible beliefs, because people, especially those that hold beliefs such as these, do not have to reconcile these beliefs to usr them both in policymaking"

Which part of this isn't clear enough for you, dishonest autist?

>>7290005
>There has never been a time in the history of the world where Germans were thinking in terms of free markets and private property
>Germany shows signs of thinking in free market terms doesn't equate to functioning under those terms
You contradict yourself so hard yet you can blattering about 'muh cognitive dissonance'. Thank you for proving once again that you need to be an extremely deluded idiot to become a /pol/ack. I'm out.

>>7288036
The West actually got wealthier and transferred work overseas I think it's actually nothing special really. Changing world, no need to be delusional about it.

>>7290111
>more colloquial nitpicking
People like you are so exhausting to talk to, it's takes really fucking disgusting moral flaws to act like you do

Germans using concepts sparingly does not equate to Germans ultimately guiding their policies by those concepts

Analogies:
>Using sugar does not automatically make the finished product sweet
>Using yellow in a painting does not automatically make a painting bright or particularly yellow
>bringing in some Somali refugees doesn't automatically change the nature of Germany

>>7290012
The West was arguably most succesful right before the First World War, when it colonized or forcefully opened almost the entire world. Christianity was already in decline then (Nietzsche died in 1900).

>>7290031
Great argument

>>7290103
You failed to formulate your point three times in a row. Using precise language is not autism, it is what people who think do. 'The ability to have' is not the same as 'have', and the distinction is not just made by autists.

I still do not get what you are trying to say (it must be my autism). You are saying leftist people hold inconsistent beliefs and use this for policy making. Is leftism a monolith, do they all believe the same things? Are all leftists Marxists?

>>7290012
>Most of the West's success comes from a time when they were extremely religious and conservative.

Western domination started right after secularism, spreading your culture across different continents is not exactly conservative.

>>7290237
>blatantly states false info by overly exaggerating a claim
>realize claim was untrue, decide to back peddle by claiming you meant something different
>say: "Thinking in terms of" means "implementing policy"
>Pointing out a simple inconsistency is the same as having fucking disgusting moral flaws
You have to be a troll. If it's real, then I hope you'll be fine anon

>>7288465
Found the relativist.

>>7290336
>Western domination started right after secularism,
Not true. Western dominance started during the Renaissance and Secularism didn't exist in the West until the French Revolution and the ''Enlightenment''. The myth about western dominance starting when the West embraced Secularism is just a lie Liberals preach because they fear westerners will abandon Secularism and other ''Enlightenment'' values if they realize it.

>>7290250
>you failed to make your point three times
No, you're arguing in bad faith or you're just retarded
>the ability to have and have are not the same thing
Obviously, but it's clear what I mean when I am speaking specifically to the issue of Marxism and moral relativism being mutually exclusive, and yet held by leftists, or at least stated so. Its not clear to an autist of course

>is leftism a monolith
More bad faith argument. Its irrelevant whether all believe the same thing. And it's irrelevant whether they're all Marxist. What is relevant is what most do and what most implement

And then you confuse belief with action. As if people don't state they believe in certain things and do something different regularly. After all, women exist. This makes your autistic monolith point even more irrelevant, because even if they all were stated Marxist and supposedly believed the same things, their ideas about what those consisted of, or what their actions consist of could be wildly different

>using precise language isn't autism
Playing the world of forms game is

You seem upset, my pajeet friend.

>>7290250
>Great argument
I dont argue with blog posting faggots they think they are smart because they skimmed a few "intellectual thinkers" books

>>7290394
>blatantly States false info
You haven't demonstrated this to be the case. I've painstakingly played to your autism fetish about the nature of Germany's implementation of economics vs the Austrian school, which was not implemented by a German government, and you want to jerk off more

I won't indulge the rest. Kill yourself faggot

>>7290005
>It's funny that every time somebody like you cannot convey their beliefs you just refer somebody to a book, as if the argument can be deferred to another time.
Actually I had already explained myself and you were confused by my explanation when I told you to read Baudrillard.

You claim that Marxism AND moral relavitism are responsible for X
Marxism and moral relativism are antagonistic and can not work together. Cognitive dissonance does not explain how two conflicting theories can coexist. For example with cognitive dissonance I can believe 2+2=4 and 2+2=5 but that does not mean both of those ideas can coexist in reality.

I suspect your entire knowledge on what you are discussing comes from watching Jordan Peterson or some other nobody.

>>7290470
>>7290503
You call me an autist but you are the one stating your beliefs in a colloquial way and therefore miscommunicating with others. That's textbook autism.

But fine, I'll bite. What is your point now exactly? Lefist people are inconsistent? I agree with that actually and it is the cancer killing the left from the inside. But you are so fucking bad at arguing I want to tear my eyes out. You flat out say stuff like: "Germans never ever think in terms of private property" or whatever retarded statement, then when you are contradicted you claim you meant something different? Come on man, you are not fooling anybody here. Just suck up the fact that you were wrong.

Asking you simple questions to refine your argument is not 'acting in bad faith'. You claim leftists are this and that, yet you back peddle as soon as you are contradicted. Nobody here is denying that people's beliefs and actions are different. Nobody here is denying that leftists are very inconsistent.

You seem to be a frustrated individual
>After all, women exist.
Go get laid, son.

>>7288223
Why would jews be interested in a failed morons world, instead high technology progress?

>>7290550
>confused by my explanation
I wasn't
>you claimed both are responsible for x but they cannot work together
And? Who said they have to work. My whole argument is that hey don't have to work together to both be implemented
>for example
This isn't a good analogy because conginitive dissonance has little to do with reality, one could hold one real and one false idea, and one could hold just two false ideas that are mutually exclusive.

As to Marxism and moral relativism, I would argue they are both false, yet are both used by leftists in policymaking. Now I could concede they won't both be used on literally every issue, but they still borrow arguments from both camps on the same issue. Like minimum wage for example, they will simultaneously assert Marxist theories of value as being a moral imperative, and also assert that the poor spending their money on stupid shit is just as useful or moral as what others would. Or asserting nigger culture is just as virtuous as other culture, while simultaneously asserting that it's more important because of some sort of neo Marxist reasoning.

I mean, modern critical theory as a whole is basically just reconciling Marxist values with moral relativism to avoid having to admit absolute truths about the world

>your entire knowledge comes from YouTube
It's irrelevant where somebody gets an argument from, but for the record I dislike Peterson and YouTubers

>>7290783
so they can easily rule over a world of brown low iq obedient minions

>>7288036
Jewish subversion.
Goyish naiveté.

>>7290731
>colloquial is therefore misleading
Lmao
>Germans never ever think in terms of private property
On the level of national governance this is absolutely true.
>when you are contradicted
Your contradiction was that some Germans think in terms of private property. In other words "not all germans", without any sort of caveat
>as soon as you are contradicted
You don't contradict, you hair split and then I have to spell out a distinction for you
>get laid
Really hard hitting stuff. Even women acknowledge they don't say what they mean you turbosperg
>I don't argue in bad faith
>argues in bad faith
Oy vey

>>7290802
>I mean, modern critical theory as a whole is basically just reconciling Marxist values with moral relativism to avoid having to admit absolute truths about the world
Fascinating. Which theorists in particular?

>>7290976
No particular theorist is required to be backed into an ideological corner. Hence "reconciling"

I'm sure catladys and burnouts have written convoluted theory on the subject but there's no point in wasting the time to read it when leftists don't derive their motivations from literature

>>7288036
niggers

>>7291048
Actually i should say virtually nobody derives their motivations from literature anymore

I don't either

The indiphobe graphmaker doesn't want you to realise that 75% of time mentioned on this graph is owned by india

>>>/pol/ bait and switch thread.

GTFO

business and finance

>>7291113
>i should say virtually nobody derives their motivations from literature anymore
I do faggot.
>The same novel conditions which will on average create a levelling and mediocritizing of man — a useful, industrious, highly serviceable and able herd-animal man — are adapted in the highest degree to giving rise to exceptional men of the most dangerous and enticing quality. For while that power of adaptation which continually tries out changing conditions and begins a new labour with every new generation, almost with every new decade, cannot make possible the powerfulness of the type; while the total impression produced by such future Europeans will probably be that of multifarious, garrulous, weak-willed and highly employable workers who need a master, a commander, as they need their daily bread; while, therefore, the democratization of Europe will lead to the production of a type prepared for slavery in the subtlest sense: in individual and exceptional cases the strong man will be found to turn out stronger and richer than has perhaps ever happened before — thanks to the unprejudiced nature of his schooling, thanks to the tremendous multiplicity of practice, art and mask.

Recommend me some really good books on economic history. I already tried asking /his/ but of course they where no help at all. I've already found a few really interesting sections in articles that on wikipedia that have economic history information inside of the article but that was just from randomly browsing and saving the except in a notes.txt, there is no actual article or series of articles that lay out the information so I was wondering if there is a book that lays it all out as one piece.

>>7291329
the Wealth of Nations is a good place to start.

>>7288171
fucking american education

South America is the new North America

>>7291412
Thanks. I'll take a look at that.
I'll try to give an example of what I mean of saving little excepts from different seemingly unrelated articles to try to build a picture from putting those excepts side by side manually because there is no single article on the topic.
I was reading the article on the Gold Standard and noticed the excerpt
>From 1750 to 1870, wars within Europe as well as an ongoing trade deficit with China (which sold to Europe but had little use for European goods) drained silver from the economies of Western Europe and the United States. Coins were struck in smaller and smaller numbers, and there was a proliferation of bank and stock notes used as money.
and thought it was interesting but when about whatever else I was doing and kept it in the back of my mind. Later I was randomly browsing some other article about Old China Trade and saw the excerpt
>increased global demand for tea was one of the primary reasons for a shortage of silver; this was the only currency that the Chinese, sole producers of the commodity at the time, would accept in payment. The East India Company (EIC), monopoly suppliers of tea to the English market, got around the problem by indirect sales of opium (grown on their plantations in India) to the Chinese, the proceeds from which they used to pay for tea.
and thought it was interesting but when about whatever else I was doing and kept it in the back of my mind. Later I was randomly browsing some other article about Foreign Relations of Imperial China and read
>The Chinese also traded avidly with the Spanish, sending numerous trade ships annually to the Philippines in order to sell them Chinese goods in exchange for mita-mined silver from the New World colonies of Spain. There was so much Spanish silver entering China that the Spanish minted silver currency became commonplace in Ming China. The Chinese attempted to convert the silver currency back to copper currency, but the economic damage was done.

because you are looking at "share" of total GDP instead of total GDP like a god damn commie retard. "Waah there are less poor people than ever and they are better off then ever, but the rich got richer too!" people need to be purged. Wealth is not zero sum.

>>7288837
*shanks you*

>>7291551
cont
and thought it was interesting but when about whatever else I was doing and kept it in the back of my mind. Later I was randomly browsing some other article about the First Opium War and saw
>In the 17th and 18th centuries demand for Chinese goods (particularly silk, porcelain, and tea) in Europe created a trade imbalance between Qing Imperial China and Great Britain. European silver flowed into China through the Canton System
>To counter this imbalance, the British East India Company began to auction opium grown in India to independent foreign traders in exchange for silver,
>The influx of narcotics reversed the Chinese trade surplus, drained the economy of silver
>From 1565 on, the Manila Galleons brought silver into the Asian trade network from mines in South America.[12] China was the primary destination for the precious metals, as the imperial government mandated that Chinese goods could only be exported in exchange for silver bullion.
>These market forces resulted in a chronic trade deficit for European governments, who were forced to risk silver shortages in their domestic economies to supply the needs of their merchants
>Recoinage of 1816 coupled with the adoption of the gold standard in 1821 resulted in the empire minting silver shillings, further reducing the availability of silver for trade in Asia.[23] The decline in silver supplies sapped the ability of European merchants to purchase Chinese goods, which remained in high demand. Merchants were no longer able to sustain the China trade purely through profits made by selling Chinese goods in the west and were forced to take bullion out of circulation in Europe to buy goods in China.
>This angered governments and fostered a great deal of animosity towards the Chinese.[30][21] The Chinese economy was unaffected by fluctuations in silver prices, as China was able to import silver from Japan to stabilize its money supply.
>Britain in particular was keen on reducing its trade deficit

>>7291446
So then why does the graph go up in 1000 Mr. Obsessed?

because germany

Germany gained dominance in 1870 and just look at the graph, nothing but down hill since then

>>7288171
usa was bankrupt before world wars which send wealth, mainly gold and banks to new york safety from nazis and stalin. that is how usa rose from ashes.

>>7288036
dying age demographic, low birth rates, super high taxes which are not competitive to asian markets

Fucking Playstations been selling like hot cakes for a while now. It was to be expected.

>>7288036
Decadence and subversion.

>>7291655
for reference. US real gdp by year. Yeah totally dying anons.

>>7289801
>German
>Austria
Are you dumb? It’s like saying Canada and be US are the same. Hell Austria and Germany are even more different then those two.

The german empire was formed explicitly excluding Austria. It formed by going to war with Austria (and then France). Germany was anti Austria from the beginning, why the fuck would they implement their economic ideas?

>>7288036

>>7289434
Merkel is literally a German conservative. God Americans are dense.

>>7291939
Lol

>>7291973
Huh but the Frankfurt school is german?????????????????????????

>>7288036
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>>7292028
omg i red pill now

>>7288036

>>7288423
>nominal

>>7292014
>lol
Why don’t you give a real response?

Austrians speak german and for the most part ethnically german, but historically and culturally they’ve always been distinct

>>7288036
Liberalism, which leads to collectivism and the relinquishing of power in order to be "fair" which is code for handing over absolute power to a small set of elites very slowly over a period of time as to not piss everyone off by being so obvious about it.

There has never been a greater cancer on mankind than the ideology of liberalism.

>>7292068
>>7288503
If he is looking at one year's data nominal and real are the same proportionaley lmao. each countries would go up the same % amount if you adjusted to a different price level. Jesus guys use your head.

>>7288327
Yep. See >>7292123

>>7288036
Liberals. No other reason.

>>7292123
I don’t think the problem is "fair", but "equal"

If two people bet on a coin toss, one wins and one losses. That’s fair but not equal. Taxing the person who won because they won is an attempt at equality, which is what the west is pushing currently.

Pic related.

Europe is finished.

>>7288036

>>7292014

Germany is part of The West. And also, no, learn the history of the Frankfurt School / the culutral marxists. They moved to the USA, before WW2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7lhWp7G9rA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SRhr2STdeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKIM75UXaI

>>7288036

>>7288036
Democracy requires educated and engaged citizens.

Capitalism requires educated consumers.

USA education and healthcare shit for decades.

Why did rome fall? History repeats itself ad naseum. Empires rise only to fall and decay.

>>7288036
If you factor in GDP per capita, then it's a different story, China and India both have more people than the whole west.

>>7288036
It was an honest accident.

>>7291987
Conservative is a relative concept

A conservative 50 years from now will be for the genocide of whites

>>7288223

It truly is the answer. And it's both "that simple" and simultaneously it goes extremely deep.

The jews being responsible isn't a silly meme, it's far from that.

>>7292310

https://youtu.be/3USaFHtIsk0?t=45m40s

go to 45m 40s

>thought this was a clever bait thread against flippening faggots
>even if it were, retards turned it into the usual answers we all know

>>7288036

>>7288036
classcucks

>>7292340
no like Berksian conservative.
Not like "what American's think words mean"

>>7292557
The word conservative in the United States has turned into a reactionary concept to oppose leftists generally. It doesn't "mean" anything

>>7288036
"Above all, I charge the leadership of the nation and their followers with the strict observance of the racial laws and with merciless resistance against the universal poisoners of all peoples, international Jewry."

>>7288036
The decline of the west is pretty slow, but the explosion of the east is much faster.

>>7288036

everyone watch these videos for part of the answers:

HERE: >>7292245

AND THE FOLLOWING 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKr1BTIuBzc

the documentary "The Eternal Jew" (this version has english voice over):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBRhLEDsaio

(it can't be played embedded, but it plays if you go to YT and accept the warning etc)

>>7292686
neither does liberal apparently.

>>7292557
Misread the post
Merkel is not berkean, maybe stated, but how the fuck does she believe in things like natural law?

>>7292986
I mean she is leader of the Christian Democratic Union and hates teh gays. I'm not actually all the fluent on German politics and admit she has some pro market/neoliberal leanings as well which is common in modern conservative movements. But I dont get what she has done that indicates she doesnt believe in natural law? Most people focus on the migration/EU thing but she seems very socially conservative otherwise.

>>7292828
Just one bunker buster.. that's all it takes.

>>7288219
it's just convergence, ignoramus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergence_(economics)

>>7288465
What a fucking moron

West is a bubble

>>7288036
Power is just decentralizing from governments to corporations

>>7293194
In what way does she believe in natural law? Germany as far as I'm aware has never recognized immutable rights of the citizens against the government

>>7288036
Why is everything dying? Is it the jews who own it all?

>>7293359
I said conservative not libertarian. You can apply Natural law to all sorts of shit other than rights see Hobbes for example.

>>7293458
What? What is your definition of natural law if not law attributed from nature and not others?

I blame the internet / mass media for connecting rural retards and politically mobilizing them. Now we primarily elect low-IQ elderly males in the early stages of dementia.

56%

what does this have to do with video games?

>>7293625
no. That's natural law. But it can be laws pertaining to and justifying government, even larger government.

>>7288036
It's simply because they have more room for expanding.
And western societies are transforming into socio capitalistic countries, and are moving closer to singularity.
The other countries are going through a phase others have already gone through long time ago, and the numbers are skewed by the way they are calculated.

>>7292238
I would rather say, the West is finished. The west, especially US is corrupted by greed beyond comprehension.

>>7288036
leftism in various forms

>what is convergence
>what is faster population growth in poor countries

An economy that doesn't work for the people and has become too top heavy

>>7288327
Taxes have never been lower on the wealthy. How braindead is this generation?

Obama never did anything about the Bush tax cuts and Trump made them even better. Its at Bush's policy that the nation went into debt.

>>7288529
Have you read the book? It says out positives to welfare, and is more about how ineffective policies can be detrimental. Even if you think no welfare should exist and the sick and poor should be left to die, both sides can agree welfare has been privatized and a waste.

>>7288649
That's because they're no longer being held down by the white man like they were since 1700. Recovering from the white man's burden

>>7288171
Whales were accumulating.

>>7295072
kek