/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7227950
Hmm.. So there's no such thing as a good job, huh?

Maybe you just suck?

Agreed OP

Megacorps have pretty much destroyed small artisans. I'd love to be a blacksmith or join a guild or something, but that's not really an option anymore.

>>7227950
damn i never looked at it like that......the system has failed me

>>7228515
>wagecuckery
>ever good

universal basic income soon?

>>7228515
jobs today are ergotherapy for retards in denial..

>>7227950
>crazy speculation on internet money.
NO DUDE NO

don't make "crazy speculation" pick some interesting projects.

now in that dip you can diversify and hodl.

>>7227950
As long as I don't have to ever blame myself.

>>7228858

All the markets are crashing right now and the rich are about to make a run with everyone's money, the last thing on their mind is helping the poor or weak. UBI is a pipe dream that's never going to happen.

>>7227950
Blame yourself for being a worthless low IQ fuck. I’m a Dr of physics and travel the world doing conferences and grabbing patents. I LOVE CAPITALISM BECAUSE IM A HIGH IQ, HIGH CONTENTIOUS ALPHA CHAD

>>7228956
you sound very educated. ergotherapy and ellipses, so refined. a diamond in the rough you must be, shining bright in a sea of retards.

>>7228774
this is what NEETs believe

>>7229119
>very educated. ergotherapy and ellipses, so refined. a diamond in the rough you must be, shining bright in a sea of retards.

>>7227950
actually bipolar guy here.
I'm too old to learn.
And even being medicated I can't work everyday.
Being smart-dumb as many of us here. I'm not going to blame anyone if I don't make it but I think it's my chance. I want a try at least.
I can't even buy meds in my country guess why? 'Cause big pharma is producing and promoting their promoting SHITMEDS while old good MAOI's are much more effective you just can't find them on the market. It's really a crime what they did and it really causes suicides.

noone cares.
>i heard you can die if you eat some cheese while on maoi's

sorry OP.

anyway it's about late stage capitalism too. our market is not the only one full of overhyped shit with "partnerships" and "experienced team".

>>7227950
>>7227950
Define "Late-stage capitalism", dumb commie fuck. Examples are not a definition so no retarded Zizek memes

>>7229191
I never got bipolar people. Either be gay or straight stop deluding yourself

>>7229191
That. So much that. We didnt ask for everything on a silver plate, we are asking for a somewhat fair chance on an normal life. That is all. Is this too much to ask from a supposedly succesful economic system?

>>7229195
For a start, i am very far from being a commie. Late stage capitalism is the phase when the circle in where most of the capital rotates is getting smaller and smaller, excluding more and more people of its passage.

yep. Too bad the sweet crypto gains can't buy me a non-alienated life in a flourishing community

it's all only going to get worse. maybe 5% of the proletariat has class consciousness so there will be no revolution. even if there is, the permanent global ecological collapse and the gigadeaths that will entail will get us all in the end. game over

in the meantime make your gains, carve out your space, get fucked up a lot, have a lot of sex (but please, for the love of god DONT have kids), and stare at your screens while the bodies pile up around you. and have a plan on when to off yourself.

That's about all we can do

>>7229195
>what is google

>>7229024

Until they fear being dropped by someone with a .308 on the walk from their front door to their expensive foreign cars, nothing will change.

>>7229551
>muh global warming
>muh overpopulation
>muh proles

lol kys commie faggot and fuck off with your "greater good" horseshit

>>7227950
no such thing as late stage capitalism

>>7228858
how would UBI even work?

>>7229503
So run-of-the-mill neoliberalism is what you mean? State sponsored corporatism isn't the same as capitalism, buddy.

>>7229660
what do you mean by greater good?

>>7229551
Use your gains to buy a plot of land in the country and build a nice house and garden. Find a good wife, have a few kids and live life on easy street.

>>7229660

Overpopulation is a good point though. We're about overdue for a major culling of the population (either by disease or some other disaster).

>>7227950
>late stage capitalism
kys commie

>>7229787
I've been seriously thinking about joining up with an agricultural commune near me. It would definitely have to be in a community since I'm an urbanfag who doesn't know the first thing about homesteading. I can work though.

>>7229807
>stop shipping millions of tons of grain to african shitholes
>global population stops growing

I fixed it.

>>7229682
Yes there is. The fact we are typing on computers on the virtual monopoly board of an anime imageboard instead of toiling fields 16 hours a day in exchange for enough vegetables to survive is proof of late stage capitalism.
I love capitalism.

>>7229891
>proof
>by single example

Sounds like you don't know how proofs work.

>>7229861
Go for it anon. My wife and I bought a few acres in some beautiful country and have been really happy. It takes work too keep things up, and we're not full Thoreaus/survivalists, but even so the independence and self sufficiency have done wonders for our mental and spiritual well-being.

>>7229730
You could put it that way, in essense the lack of recirculation of money, or a near monopoly of capital.

>want to join an agriculture commune
>In Canada so frozen all the time

>>7229726
Some dude takes over the world, instates a one-world government and forces corporations to have public dividends

>>7229891

I toil 15 hours at work just to have a basic apartment to live in, so it's not really that much better. IMO late stage capitalism is more like companies seeking infinite profits to the point where human lives become the same as inanimate objects to be used and discarded. We are starting to see the beginnings of it with lack of social healthcare, basically let the old and weak die and only people who can toil for 12 hours a day at work will survive.

>>7229861
Enyclopedia of country living is a good starter.

>>7230085
>starting to see the beginnings of it with lack of social healthcare
We have literally been moving in the opposite direction - towards more and more socialized healthcare - pretty much consistently over the last 70+ years.

>>7229891
Biz catalog eight now seems a jolly place to you anon?

>>7230085
> late stage capitalism is more like companies seeking infinite profits to the point where subhuman lives become the same as inanimate objects to be used and discarded
FTFY

>>7230205
Right now*

>>7230219
And of course, for the privileged the subhuman definition will be forever broadening.

>>7227950
Was actually thinking about this earlier - yes crypto is a transfer of wealth, but the actual implementation of dlt & blockchain is basically going to automate huge parts of the workplace, because it will save companies so much money. The timing is what's strange. Raw materials & commodities are going to increase in price as they become less abundent & as demand continue to increase from there being ever more people. So blockchain gives a way for companies to keep prices similar by reducing labour costs.
So we're actually investing in the very thing that's going to cause mass unemployment & bring about the need for a ubi. Problem is, while wagecucking is slavery, 90% of the workers are going to go mad when they have nothing to do all day & no purpose in life. Expect mass drug epidemics & depression..

>>7230297
...and 4chan servers exploding

>>7230146
thanks anon

YOU FUCKING SPOILED MILLENIAL CUNTS GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7230205
>>7230252
I'v been waiting for a dip so I could care less.
I'm down 40k from my all time high but a long term believer in the coins I hold so this dip is a good opportunity for me to buy more.

>>7230219

Anyone who isn't at 7 figures or more is subhuman by definition to the rich. No matter if you are blue collar or white collar, if you aren't near the top, YOU ARE NOTHING.

>>7227950
I had a job as a software engineer and I hated it. The thought of working with someone who told me what to do was disgusting. Waking up in the morning was a pain.

>>7230405
>spoiled
>most materially insecure generation since the great depression

>>7229258
If this were on Facebook, it would be a good KenM post

>>7230444
I hope you're actively working on products involving crypto otherwise you're a worthless pathetic little shit

>>7230583
My stocks are enough to sustain me, I don't care about working anymore.

>>7228972
this
for example http://scam.funsite.cz/yolo.html gives you passive income consistently
diversify into all 9 ponzis for maximum dividends

>>7229191
Serotonin shock is not to be sniffed at. Never take ayausca.

Don't blame late stage capitalism
Blame your retarded parents for raising you into a fucking kumbaya faggot

>>7231557
College education and years of studying is kumbaya you faggot?

>>7227950
at least we have runescape

>>7228515
Enjoy being a slave for your measly money, im sure you think your getting paid well though

>>7231595
what did you study?

>>7227950
>blame capitalism

>>7231864
Computer science. Is that good enough for you? It still offers shit jobs with measly pay, while management leeches all moneh.

The system is fucked, profit from it and smile when it collapses

>>7231909
No, we can criticize religion, nationality, family values, classic art, human relations, but capitalism?
Thats a taboo.

>>7228774
This, capitalism has ruined jobs

>>7229730
Capitalism's natural development is globalist corporatism.

>>7231723
World is full of 8 bil people, what i can do some other dude can do for less. Waaaa i am i not rich ... i want money doing nothing. More than 80% of the population would let you starve because you are useless to them.

I make 80k a year.
Capitalism is fine you are just lazy fucks.

>>7231947
why would you care if it's good enough for me?
you're trying to prove something to a stranger on the interwebs, that's enough for me to understand what kind of character I'm talking to.
If you really want to change you gotta stop blaming everything external and start looking at yourself
System is fucked? Great, you have no control on it, carry on. You can't find a job that you're satisfied with? Great, start a new company, create something new, think about game-changing projects that you could work on.

If none of that works you can continue blaming others for the direction your life is taking, it'll probably make you feel better for a couple days

>>7232397
>fuck you, I got mine

over half of people make below 37k

>>7227950
Only option is MCjobs if you are a brainlet. People like you always complain but never create anything. I would let people like you starve.You're living in the most prosperous time in human history and you have access to all knowledge created by human kind at the tip of your fingers. Stop complaining and do something with your life because no one actually gives 2 fucks about you if are useless.

>>7232571
yeah over half of the people are lazy asf
take responsibility and kys if you get less than 37k

>>7232571
Zero sum game.

>>7232686
nah

>>7232686
>proposing eugenics in the current year

how gauche.

>>7232537
>See same shit happening on overwhelming majority of colleagues
>See young people wasting their life all day home with no employment
>See basic stuff like health insurance evaporate

Ok, i will try to be the 10 percent that makes it, why bother with criticism.

>muh ethics

>>7229033
yes, you really seem like a highly intelligent physics professor

>>7228858
Hmm why yes let's print some more money and give it to the poor this will definitely not cause mega inflation. Of course they deserve it they are wonderful neets, they bring lots of benefits to our society. You are all implying that farmers will not let you starve for being an extra mouth to feed.

>>7232686
Le marie antouanette syndrome

>>7232813
Tf is this "work hard" bullshit? If the people I've known are anything to go by, the poorer a person is, the harder they're probably working. Who is it that can work less than 45-50 hours a week, takes 5 vacations a year, gets to work from home, doesn't have to do demanding physical labor, gets to skim value created by others? Certainly not anyone making less than that. Maybe you're a bit out of touch with reality?

>>7233088
>Muscular farmers keeping me around as an extra mouth
Just like my trap doujins.

>>7229807
So what ? Only the strong survive. Be weak get fucked.

>all the commies here

lmao

Capitalism didn't fuck you over, your pussyass attitude and apathy did. Of course the normie jobs are going to be worthless, if everyone can do them they're not worth anything. You have to do something against the grain that amasses wealth to you. I thought people would understand that since you are here of all places trying to do just that in an early speculative market that most normies don't know how to do.

If socialism was in you'd be poor, still doing a shit job since people better than you would have beaten you to the better jobs, and any money you make off your own endevours like this to try to escape would be taken from you and given to people doing the minimum just parasiting.

Failures are going to be failures under any system.

>>7233186
>thinking capitalism is meritocratic
>what is inheritance
>what is luck
>what is crime

>>7233041
that's a nice set of excuses you've got there buster brown

>>7229864
You forget about the billions of resource drainers in India and China.

>>7233186

If it actually worked that way then why do we see so many idiots with 6 figures or more? Someone has to be supporting them, otherwise they shouldn't be able to survive. Also see: NEETs.

Richfags stop it with "muh IQ, muh hard work, die u lazy pleb".
Soon robotics and AI will be full force, and then being the 1% will be laughed upon the 0.01% , because your difference with the 99% will be 500 grams per bread and a beer a day more.

>>7233254
People inherit things because of their ancestors success.
Luck is an abstract concept. People are lucky that they were born into successful circumstances and renouncing birth is the only way to negate this.
Clever criminals rise to the top

>>7233233

Capitalism isn't meritocratic dumbfuck, if it were we'd have 150 IQ children making 7 figures and lazy NEETs making 0 instead of getting money for doing nothing.

>>7233233
And why 50 years ago normie jobs were perfectly viable anon? You could leave a legit life on these.

>>7233320
Two people otherwise equal where one of them says I will rise to the top and another says soon we will all be equal.
Who is more likely to succeed?

>>7233351
>People inherit things because of their ancestors success
yeah but you are not your ancestors
>People are lucky that they were born into successful circumstances and renouncing birth is the only way to negate this
maybe so, but that's still not meritocratic
>Clever criminals rise to the top
criminals are always at a higher risk of ending up in prison or dead, no matter how clever

>>7233419
You could live*

>>7232813
unironically this

>>7231947
>while management leeches all moneh.
You underestimate how little economic productivity the average computer science grad contributes to the world of left to his own devices without some guiding management.

There are a ton of incompetent managers out there, but that doesn't mean management is useless.

>>7233233
>and any money you make off your own endeavors

if you can't even have the decency to read wikipedia before jumping into conversations about communism then don't mind me when I discard your ignorant trash opinions

>>7233430

Depends on which one makes friends with Jeff Bezos.

>>7233445
>yeah but you are not your ancestors
I am successful. I have children with a successful woman. We have a child. I "unfairly" give it a good start at life and it is successful.

A meritocratic society allows the successful to give their offspring a good start at life.

>>7233476
yes goy, be ready to defend your masters

>>7233587

And just as easily that can be taken away if you and your wife die in a car accident, leaving your child a poor orphan. Congrats.

>>7233508
How many management do you know that have full domain specific knowledge and arent company hoppers trying to makeup short term financial data, take their bonus, ruin the company image and long term prospects and leave? There are few and far between

>>7233587
regardless, your child has done nothing to earn that money. i'm not saying it's wrong, i'm just saying it doesn't play into the whole "only the stronk survive" narrative

I'm a failure, but it has very little to do with the system. Judging from my peers it's not hard to make it if you put in some basic effort. Most of the people I know who went about their lives "by the book" are doing great.

>>7229730
State sponsored corporatism is the natural evolution of capitalism you dumb fuck

>inb4 its not true capitalism

>>7233725
No child "earns" being born in the first place.
>i'm just saying it doesn't play into the whole "only the stronk survive" narrative
Yes it does. Good genes and upbringing are strengths.

>people did not cash out the second robinhood announced crypto trading

>>7233725
why? think tribal. he and his wife are strong, so the child.

>>7233797

I think crypto market is closer to true capitalism. You can't even invest in start-ups unless you are already rich but crypto lets you invest in ICOs and rake in 1000x profits even if you only put a few hundred in.

>>7233877
Wow this really makes me think man... those poor indians

>>7233831
>Good genes and upbringing are strengths
your parents may be successful, but you won't necessarily inherit those qualities

Instead of jerking off to chinese cartoons and buying into fake internet money you should have studied to get into a growing industry. Stay mad losers.
lmao

>>7233398

>and lazy NEETs making 0 instead of getting money for doing nothing.

Firstly it's the socialism that's doing that part.

Secondly, 150 IQ children create fuck all. You get money in capitalism by creating or manipulating wealth, not by being admirable and talented and hard working. Some kids do find ways to make 7 figures, like child singers and actors for example.

>>7233419

Because they've at times either been indirectly propped up by debt spending or when supply was lower due to a broken or smaller workforce

>>7233516

Not an argument, so I can just as readily discard your pointless posts.

>>7233906
I Do all three grandpa.

>communism
>food

>brown people
>success

>>7233797
>muh natural evolution

Why has every communist state "naturally evolved" into a state sponsored corporatist entity? Really makes you think.

>>7233877
Everyone of those streetshitters would turn on you the moment you give them money. They continue breed like rabbits despite living like shit. Gib money only results in them continuing to live long enough to shit out another generation of gibs. Natural Selection has been halted by handouts, its time to stop giving.

>>7233910
"socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff it does, the socialister it is" - karltural marks

My dude, you are illiterate to the point of obstinacy. Seriously, pick up the manifesto and read it sometime. can be read in a single sitting. then you can have conversations with the grown ups.

C a p i t a l i s m

l o s i n g

f a v o r

to the American public. I see it everyday. God damn it gets me hard.

KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS KILL CAPITALISTS

>>7234043
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

>>7233142
you don't get paid for hard work you fucking idiot pajeet low tier nigger

you get paid for responsibility, something you would have learned if your parents took any of it

>>7234043
>>7234030
you people sicken me

I like capitalism.
In communism I would be forced to do a shitty job without any way of making my situation better. At least in capitalism I can become a neet after becoming a millionaire.

Capitalism hasn't even begun yet.

What we have now is some fucked up pro-corporation financial system, where no wealth is moved to lower classes and is moved only at the very top, IMO that's not really capitalism.

>>7234043

I don't blame them, see what Amazon is implementing if you want a taste of late-stage "capitalism" : https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/technology/amazon-wristband-tracking-privacy.html

Basically not really different from communism at this point, people are gonna be tracked like cattle and every movement they aren't generating capital for a business they will be penalized or fired.

>>7234030
even karl marx said he was never a marxist, it's a meme and you don't get it, go suck gobernment dick and let some refugees live at your - eh sour our - place

>>7234231
>implying

>>7234174

See but that's crypto which is closer to actual capitalism. That's how it's SUPPOSED to be, but it's not in reality. You can't invest in start-ups due to laws preventing people under certain networths from investing, you can't start companies without jumping through a million hoops, and when you work under a company you are treated in a slave-like manner. Now you can also look forward to being tracked every moment of the day to generate further capital and then getting robbed during tax season.

I'm not pro-communist but surely people aren't seeing the problem here?

>>7234166
And my knife up your asshole is gonna give you sepsis.

>>7234174
Yeah, we've all heard that shitty adage from our boomer overlords. But have you tried just reading the fucking manifesto? Seriously, to any of you overly zealous capitalists in this thread- have you read it? Have you really? Or do you take all moronic propaganda as fact?

Communism and government are OPPOSED IDEAS. Just READ THE FUCKING MANIFESTO.

>>7234231
This, but Hitler is ok too.

>>7234430

>>7233587
Your child has done nothing themselves to earn that right though. They have ended up with what they have by virtue of having parents with "merit". You may have got what you feel you deserve from working hard, but they didn't. Thats not a meritocracy.

>>7234418
None of them have read even the first few pages. You can tell because the illusions about communism they have (that they got from their high school civics class) are the same few moronic tropes that would be crushed if they ever actually picked up a book.

>>7233088
You don't print the money. It's a redistribution from taxes.

>be retarded
>believe in "free internet money"
>"to da moon", "my free internet money is gonna get me muh lambo","I love capitalism now!"
>bubble builds - normies flood - scammers exit - confidence falls - bubble pops
you pissbabbys were told months ago to get out before the pop. blame your greed and being NEET. back to mum n da's basement you go.
>>7228999
trips don't lie

>>7234670

Crypto is more like actual capitalism than the perverse pro-corporate system we have in real life. NEETs losing all their money or becoming millionaires by making the right picks is better than working as a slave with no hope of getting out because all the wealth is concentrated at the top.

>>7227950
I'd rather die than wageslave. This at least gives me a chance of survival, however slim it may be.

To the moon, lads. To the moon.

I'd like to remind you people that politics is a waste of time.
If you're part of /pol/'s retarded brood, consider going back there and surround yourself with like-minded gentlemen for the rest of your days.
On the other hand, if you're a whiny bitch like the examples set in this thread, 1 it might be too late for you and 2 what the fuck are you doing here?
This is biz, you come here to make money.

>>7234766
>>7234766
Wealth is concentrated at the top in crypto you literal retard.

>>7234823
>you come here to make money
*lose money

>>7234852

Wealth actually circulates around in crypto with the wild swings and volatility, meaning anyone can become poor or rich overnight.

>>7234857
well, someone else is making money off of you. Not much tho i'd imagine

>>7235017
>implying i'm stupid enough to follow /biz/'s advice
keep imagining

>>7233691
You're right that they are few and far between, but effective managers can mean the difference between a dozen half realized ideas and an actual successful product. FWIW, *full* domain specific knowledge is nice to have, but not an absolute prerequisite to effective management (though *some* measure of domain specific knowledge generally is).

The system has failed us.
60 years ago we would have been able to make it with hard work. These days we can't because there's something "more" that employers want. Most things have been invented already.
If we go to college we end up without work because degrees are oversaturated. Even stem degrees.
Even getting a minimal paying job that has a chance of making it is impossible because of the competition and lack of jobs.
The only option we have is trading internet money. We're doing this in desperation. Not because we want to.
The system has failed us.

>>7235335
fuck off you lazy bum

>>7235438
Shut up asshole.
There's no opportunity.
Stocks could have been like crypto. Hard work could have been like crypto. But it was all ""regulated"" to hold us back and keep the rich rich.

>>7232686
lmao look at this stupid fucking wagecuck

>>7235335
>all this information at your finger tips
>all this easily accessible cheap technology to build shit with
>all these sites like kickstarter/gofundme/ect for starting capital
yeah, it sure is hard to do anything compared to 60 years ago. just because you're a useless NEET who waste all their money on useless shit doesn't mean everyone is.

>>7235753
>>all this information at your finger tips
It's useless because everyone has it

>>all this easily accessible cheap technology to build shit with
There's nothing to build, because it's already built.

>>all these sites like kickstarter/gofundme/ect for starting capital
They aren't gonna fund someone who isn't a genius already

>>7235515
ah, I see
at what point of your life will you stop blaming others and focus on you?
you don't have much time left, make the right choice

>>7235753
No big marketing budget no product. End of story.

>>7233088
Meanwhile we have robots doing the work that NEETs would be doing. We have fucking robot slaves, but only the ultra-rich get to actually enjoy the benefits.

i refuse to work. fuck a job. im 37 and do nothing all day but mooch off my parents and the system. proud of it, too.

>>7235845
>It's useless because everyone has it
true, but most people are like you, they rather watch a porn video then learn something useful
>There's nothing to build, because it's already built. >>7235882
yet projects get funded and new products come out all the time. strange that.
>They aren't gonna fund someone who isn't a genius already
you don't have to be a "genius" to make money, you just need to not be a bumbling retard.

>>7235873
Your logic did not prevent the economics of human happiness to suffer. So gtfo with your peasant theories.

"This isn't socialist, it's just fuckin business. Elites figure out that their employees don't understand inflation, raises, taxes, and stock options and as long as there are more employable citizens than there are jobs
businesses don't need to compete to retain workers. Business is free to fuck with people because they have no leverage. That's it. Notice: Business is very strongly regulated when it comes to expensive licences that don't mean
anything, but poorly regulated when it comes to what businesses can do with profits before they become taxable. It's engineered to make start-ups difficult in established fields, so the unemployed can't crack into the market by
starting businesses (upfront costs are simply too great, most people have shitty credit scores and won't be issued reasonable loans), which means competition is low among old & established businesses but intense among new ones,
which means they all treat their employees like shit.

This is a combination of misplaced or missing regulations, a lack of teeth in the law's mouth, and a worker surplus. This is not a socialist failure, this is a systematic failure that has happened many times in history.
Notice again: The same damn problems happened in "communist" China, in pre-revolutionary France, and in the USA/modern West—wages stagnated, the elite cemented their positions with bullshit legislation,
and the majority are fooled into competing with one-another rather than addressing the circumstances that have landed them in comparative poverty. There's a reason that the educated are getting worried: These social and
political situations have historically resulted in violent revolution (lots of examples: Every turn of the Mandate of Heaven in China plus the Democratic Republic and the communist revolution, the US leaving the British Empire,
India leaving the Empire, Russia booting the Czars out, Russia booting the communists out, the French revolution, etc)."

The most significant factor in life is willpower, you either have enough or you don't
If you have enough you'll succeed, as simple as that
If you don't you'll build a gigantic wall of excuses that you'll have to believe in order to protect yourself from realizing that you're less of a human being, because you have no control on your actions.

>>7236104
Lets take for example the indie game space. What percent of full time developers you think have earned a living this far? You would be surprised. Same with all other industries. For a headline worthy founder there are thousands that fail silently.

>>7234418
I did read the manifesto, I know government is not communism.
But what I'm saying is still true.
>>7234408
I agree with you that there are retarded laws like the ones you mention.
What point are you trying to make?

>>7233233
Wow a 14 year old entered the ring. Do you dab after every point you make faggot?

>>7236275
You're just being a stubborn dumb fuck. If you really believe poor African children just need "willpower" to escape, you're retarded or being disingenuous. Just shut the fuck up with the platitudes on shit you know nothing about, faggot.

>>7236328
No it isn't, and no you haven't. Shut the fuck up.

>>7234174
>the delusion of choice

YOURE TRAPPED BUDDY, YOU THINK YOURE GOING FORWARD BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS ARTIFICE

Your actual options are getting smaller and smaller but the brands you can choose from are multiplying. There is the illusion of choice in this society — that’s late capitalism for for you.

>>7228515
i can tell you have never had a job

>>7235873
You straight up think like a 18th century’s peasant.

>>7236301
I wanna be an indie dev but people discourage me because they say there's too much competition

>>7229807
Just niggers in africa you fucking piece of shit, and they only have 15 children each family cause we sustain their shitty lifestyle with socialism aka development aid, the fun is you cant know better, its now repeated since '00 over and over again, but in reality we are just dying out right now, smart people dont get kids bro

>>7236593
Thats true. Just open steam, see how many games release every day and cry. Dont want to ruin it for you, you may be the 0.1 percent, it is always possible who knows.

>>7236439

>anybody using capslock sentences and saying "buddy" calling anybody else underage

I bet you think you're very intellectual and woke just because you blame everything else for your failings and think anybody else who doesn't must be bluepilled.

>>7236301
bullshit. gaymes is high cost/time investment and you still see many indie devs go on to make even more games.
>For a headline worthy founder there are thousands that fail silently.
that's how it's suppose to work. if your product is any count it will stick around. it's then your job to innovate,diversify products or ride your one-hit-wonder until it dies(saving every penny you can). you think tech innovation just happens on it's own? t. participation trophy generation

>>7236686
Countries with a high infantile death rate have more kids in hopes of their survival.

Just take the 2 seconds to look this fucking shit up before feverishly talking out of your asshole you god damn dumb fucking faggot.

>>7236593
Marketing essential though

>>7228774
lol get off the xbox

>>7236808
That's not easy. That costs money which elites have.

>>7236489
well, many of them do escape to Europe, and I bet they have more willpower than those who remain in Africa.
Checkmate

>>7236830
Its like a hot boiling pot that you are in. You can market smart for few money. Next year it will be harder. And harder. Till you will not be able to seriously market without money all.

>>7236821
The funny thing is that there are literally millions of positions in trade jobs that are the modern equivalent of blacksmithing and that are in massive demand (electricians, welders, plumbers, etc etc etc), but instead of pursuing these (which can lead to jobs working in companies or as independent contractors), today's NEETs prefer to just whine about not being able to make a living as a medieval blacksmith. BAKA DESU senpai.

>>7227950
lets make another ponzi.. a better one.. a bigger one

>>7236929
at all*

>>7229730
>what is capital accumulation

Under what system can companies become big enough to influence governments?

Lets take another field guys, those of translators/interpreters. Last 10 years have risen intermediate companies, that take all clients and pay translators peanuts. Translator pay have fallen maybe 70 percent. Ceo of many of these companies literary take bonus when they manage to drop translator compensation per word. Same in so many other fields

>>7237032
The republicans are controlled by industrial elites and the democrats are controlled by agricultural (human resource) elites.
America is a corporate controlled country

>>7229730
Lmao
>muh not reel capitalism

>>7236489
What the fuck is wrong with you fucking imbecile?
I was a communist before, I've read Bakunin, Marx, Lenin, Chomsky, Kropotkin and Bookchin.
You shoud kill yourself fucking retard. I've probably read more about it than you.

>>7236565
lol. Id'm retired, actually. I'd bet I've worked more years then you've lived.

>>7237220
Aha!
Now thats why the attitude...

>>7231723
Wage slave? I'm a retired old fart, actually. I wouldn't say I made a killing, but I did ok. Even managed to have a good time along the way, usually.

>>7228956
Not like being a neet, huh? Mom's house, gibs forever. Man, you got it made.
To bad about the no pussy, no family of your own, all that stuff.
Wait... let me guess... You've already made a couple of mil in crypto, and now you're just kickin' it. Right?

>>7228774
>why does no one want to give me money for doing something useless

>>7237275
>Retired boomer oldfags preaching to millenials

How adoring

>>7234418
>gommunism
kys you 90 IQ subhuman

It's a pipe dream. It cannot work unless 90% of society works hard to maintain the balance while aware of the system's flaws. Even then it's highly exploitable and volatile.
Ironically the ones most likely to advocate communism are the most undesirable when it takes over. You are a model example.

>>7237600
If everyone was successful in capitalism nobody would be against it.

>>7237151
>>7237220
Yeah w/e I bet I am the whitest guy itt
Try to top that. Btw want a puc of my huge dick? Guaranty you it is bigger than yours

>>7237695
That's not true. Some measure of dissatisfaction is part of the human experience. If everyone was rich, but some were richer than others, some of the less rich would be jealous of the richer. And if everyone was rich, and they were all *equally* rich, some would be upset that they didn't have *more* than others.

>>7227950
speak for yourself. I am very respected at work, they let me do whatever I want as long as I get results. Just dress well and be able to tell a good story, Anon. Probably gonna be an exec within a few years.

>>7229191
>too old to learn
what's your age? 25?

>>7230502
Reddit.

>>7229024
This is still just a small dip, it could indeed be what you are saying though.
That has been a long time coming, Trump is the ultimate scapegoat for such a thing anyway.
Everyone is going to be screwed eventually then nothing will change until >>7229649 happens.
Once people not affording food becomes a problem that is when things will start.

>>7227950
>don't blame crypto
>implying I'm not extremely grateful to have an opportunity to attain this much my wealth by intelligently clicking buttons

>>7237600
Thanks for your two cents, Pyfagoras. I give a fuck what someone whose never bothered to read the Manifesto thinks of Communism, I really do. Keep gobbling up those boomer dicks.

>>7237844
"But what about THIS anecdote! Gotcha!"

Faggot.

>>7236877
"But what about THIS outlier?! Ha, gotcha!"

You're an idiot. And that's ironic, because if a meritocracy was what this really was, you'd be human trash in it.

>>7233320
yeah no that's not how it works.

>>7230085
I work 36 hours a week and own a house, car, and bought my fiancee a $10k ring and put $10k into crypto last summer. How stupid are you that youre poor working 15 hours a day? Fucking commies refuse to try to better themselves. SAGED

>>7238006
My advice to you would be to leave debating for those among you that show higher intellectual capabilities and value insight.

Follow your betters. Don't try to mimic them though

>>7237830
>retard who doesn't understand I was responding to the stupidity of a communist who assumed I didn't know about communism

>>7235515
Yes, I see. Your considerable talents are being throttled by the man. He just loves holding you back.
Truly tragedy.

>>7235947
>Meanwhile we have robots doing the work that NEETs would be doing
What work is that?
Don't tell me you admit that neets can only handle repetitive, assembly line work. I don't think they think that. On the contrary, I think they believe they should start off with a seat on the board.

>>7227950
>late-stage
lmao we haven't even begun.

>>7236489
>No it isn't, and no you haven't. Shut the fuck up.
The quality of your argument here makes it obvious that you should step right into the higher levels of business. If only the man weren't holding you down.

>>7233901
>your parents may be successful, but you won't necessarily inherit those qualities
THAT IS LITERALLY HOW GENETICS WORK. YOU INHEREIT TRAITS OF YOUR PARENTS.

>>7235753
not everyone can be an entrepreneur.

>>7238667
who /acc/ here

>capitalistcucks don't realise the only reason they think "being productive" has any "value" is because they are cucked by capitalist ideology

It baffles me that /pol/, who keep talking about red pills and seeing through the bullshit, aren't full on marxists. It's literally the ground upon which the framework of their entire mode of thinking is built. They just believe all the propaganda they are fed. Marxist ideology critique (which is NOT the same as communism or even socialism) is quite literally the real red pill.

>>7239220
Fucking kek, pol hates jews because they want to be the jews, don't you get it?

post hot guys itt

>>7227950
Why even blame anyone? Even with almost the whole cryptomarket bleeding I still made a good profit. You should join the discord group, Anon.

https://discord gg/b9uVZBm

>>7239394
>you will never get a bf in your shithole
>you will never make it to get out of shithole
>you're doomed

Okay now that crypto is done, it's time for plan B, Kill the rich, send their family members to gulag end their bloodline.

>>7239548
nice

>>7238353

I literally work more than you and I contribute to one of the biggest companies in the world. Also I'm not communist. But whatever makes you feel better. Not everyone lives in bumfuck nowhere or has the choice to work only 36 hours.

>>7239636
this poster gets it

>>7239220

The funny thing is they support national "socialism" but are still against socialistic policies. I personally want either full on capitalism (not the fake kind we have now) or more socialism. Corporatism is fucked up and only benefits the very few, and anyone who is not in that small club is never going to make it. Crypto was our chance, and only because it follows a market closer to an actual free market.

Reminder that your ethnic erasure was planned:

Secretly filmed (((SPLC))) meeting:
https://www.twitter.com/JoseChungOG/status/959547242532229122

>Why the rise in """Hate""" groups?
>It's the rise in the demographic dispossession of white people in America
>You can't stop it
>It's been planned for a while
They also admit people hate multiculturalism and having their country stolen from them while their entire raison d'etre is ruthlessly silencing anyone that speaks out against it.

>>7228515
boomer detected

>oof

>>7239220
It baffles me that leftypol cocksuckers like you still post this shit. No one gives a fuck about your nigger ideology, you stupid dirty fucking jew rat.

>>7239630
>Not everyone lives in bumfuck nowhere or has the choice to work only 36 hours.
>Waaah I need to live in a city with at least 3 craft breweries and no one will subsidize my constant under-achievement to let me pay for my iPhone MacBook and avocado toast :'(
Anyone can do either of those things, commie scum. Learn to be a man.

>late capitalism
You mean late socialism OP

>>7233233
>Capitalism didn't fuck you over

meanwhile STEM PhDs working starbucks

>>7228956
lol

>>7240024
>You mean late socialism OP

no /pol/ock

capitalism, where corporations are able to price gauge consumers, especially on high-demand goods/services e.g. Internet, College and Healthcare.

>>7240338
>College and Healthcare
high demand to unhealthy brainlets

>>7240338

>>7239220
marx advocated for equality and unification of all races and gender to overthrow the owners of capital. marxism is an anti white supremacist ideology

>>7240384
>>7240374

t. MBA grad here

Let me explain to you guys how business school works.
You learn that perfect competition
> what cuckservatives mislabel as the "free markets
is your enemy,
In perfect compeition, profits for all firms is 0
Figure out how to stop your company from being perfectly competitive
>advertise brand, put up barriers to entry, get negotiating power in deals, etc
By doing this, you can increase your profit margin and make $$$$ gains that Wall Street wants.

The end result is that massive income inequality between the capitalists and the wagecucks,
I'm not a communist but realizing that corporations are not your friend is a very important redpill and I agree >>7239220

In

>>7229348
>somewhat fair chance on an normal life
You probably live better than the vast majority of the world. What do you mean "fair chance". What exactly are you complaining about
>>7230297
>Human population will grow exponentially
>Humans also won't increase efficiency in resource usage
This is why it's hard to take you brainlets seriously

>>7233320
>muh ai takin all duh jawbs
Can you commie mouthbreathers please stop with this meme. We're nowhere near that point, and we might never get there

>>7234328
>this country was not built by the huge corporations or government bureaucracies

America was literally settled by two companies that were state sponsored and issued stock. Most of the new world was discovered by voyages that were sponsored by states and companies.


>>7240564
Marxism IIRC advocates for the elimination of ethnic identity and advocates gender equality, which are at stark contrast of a nationalist or a nat soc. Besides, socialism isn't prevalent in America because whites wouldn't benefit from it

>>7227950
>I'm too stupid to make money so capitalism is bad
you deserve to be a wagie

>>7233277
they're self supporting, they don't drain anyones resources. China is the biggest investor in renewable energy in the world and its not even close.

>>7240774
>>7240774
>Marxism IIRC advocates for the elimination of ethnic identity and advocates gender equality, which are at stark contrast of a nationalist or a nat soc. Besides, socialism isn't prevalent in America because whites wouldn't benefit from it

Marx was a SPERGNEET.
I don't agree with him on centralizing all capital
However I do believe that certain industries need to be viewed as utilities or else they will suck all the profit out of the economy e.g. Internet (Net Neutrality), Free College, and Universal Healthcare.
Runaway capitalism, which is what America has today, will be just as destabilizing as runaway communism i.e. all the bitter people on here working wagecuck jobs, with student loan bags and not being able to afford a house.

As for natsoc.
I only hate niggers and the Vietnamese.
Other races are fine, especially Koreans, who are the best Asians.
The problem with white nationalism is that I get along better with plenty of people from other races, often better than with other amerimutt whites.

>>7229726
>cryptocurrency
>somehow restrict mining to some sort of KYC/AML/ProofofLife
>allow each person to mine/generate so much coins automatically

There ya go.

>>7240923
White nationalism isn't ethnic nationalism, did your ancestors/relatives emigrate here before or after America was founded?

>>7228774
Join a guild?? what the fuck nigga?? this is not xbox land, and their are blacksmiths today you fuck wit, we call them metal Fabricators and welders, the state of you kids these days..... for fuck sakes!!

>>7228774
What is Etsy? Also, guilds technically still exist, just not in the same way they used to. They're closer (or are) unions now.

>>7241153
>White nationalism isn't ethnic nationalism, did your ancestors/relatives emigrate here before or after America was founded?
after
and i hate square faced anglos

>>7241364
Americans have been waging a war on unions both at home and abroad for 80 years now.

>>7241417
Sure. And etsy isn't necessarily a road to great success either. But they're still technically options on par with small artisans and apprenticing to the local village blacksmith and joining the local guild, if the megacorp is the old fuedal count or duke.

>late stage capitalism

Lol this is fucking bullshit
Stop repeating literal marxist propaganda

>>7228515
I personally don't like wagecucking for anyone else, you are selling your hardwork and time when you could make more money working for yourself

>>7229551
>proletariat
Marxists and their pseudoscience deserve free helicopter rides

>>7241748

>>7240297
>lol
Back to facebook nigger

kill or gulag all capitalists. fuck you all

>>7229191
why don't you try working on yourself 100% instead of swallowing uncle sams modern societal sedation pills

red pill yourself on your bipolar and go no carb ketogenic high natural fat diet carbs rot your brain, fix tor gut health and fast fasting is known to CURE MENTAL DISORDERS GOOGLE IT YOURSEF

fuck sake at least "wake up" and assess the things you do in your and consider every decision with this question, is this action going to make my life better overall? lol

>>7241847
Marxists need to be slaughtered
Bootlicking wastes of life.

>>7228774
Become a luthier.

>>7228774
Learn to be a welder and join a union. They even call them apprenticeships! Basically blacksmithing IRL and you make bank

>>7234633
>Implying anyone will work with basic income
This is what commie scum believes

>>7241772
the irony lol

>>7240923
>Runaway capitalism, which is what America has today,
Why the fuck do stupid people actually fucking believe this?

>>7240338
>capitalism, where corporations are able to price gauge consumers, especially on high-demand goods/services e.g. Internet, College and Healthcare.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THESE ARE THE MOST GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED INDUSTRIES IN THE WESTERN WORLD
holy fucking shit

>>7237121
>muh real capitalism
Same shit you delusional commie lol

>>7234591
Dialectical materialism is pseudoscience and marxism has been debunked a million times.

Marxist cultists just ignore this.

People need to realize the reason everything is so fucked up is because of central banking and government interventionism.

Wake the fuck up

>>7233901

>>7241748
This. No one itt has actually read any Marx cos it's fucking boring and incredibly contradictory. Basically like paying attention to a drunk hobo rambling on the train, you literally can't focus on what they say because it's too retarded.

Socialism = big gov and regulations

Socialism is a problem because humans abuse power, it's never worked and it never will. The only countries with a stable lifestyle these days are ones with no welfare state and minimal regulations.

It's not a pol or lefty pol thing to get this, just look into the philosophies objectively and you'll see this for yourself. Anyone who believes in socialism isn't ready to play cryptos because they're too ideologically driven to be pragmatic.

There isn't a single successful example of communism or socialism on earth. Ever.

Sweden = failed state

China = failing state

The west in general = failing

The only solution is returning to a gold standard and getting rid of Fiat debt stimulus and consumer lending, it's sending the wrong price signals and encouraging waste.

>>7228774
holy fuck go to trade school or get an apprenticeship

>>7241756
This so much. Trying everyday to release these chains

>>7241402
>after
OUT! OUT! OUT!

>>7240338
personally think this is the only
place suitable for government ie healthcare and crucial infrastructure they are monopolies anyone why burden the consumer ties up money in necessities that could be bought in bulk for the population a lot cheaper therefore more resources that can contribute to the consumer / artisan and local economies

>>7242246
>>7241756
>itt: libertarians discover they are closet communists

>>7242143

Thank you for being informed.

Why is it that socialists think they are anti establishment, think they want to get rid of the government but also want universal healthcare, government housing, gov food, gov water, gov fucking baby killing stores, fucking gov everything. What the fuck is wrong with those cunts?

>>7228774
blacksmith was the worst job ever you mongoloid tardo, most of them ended up crazy cuz of the sound or with the white hand disease. this job totally destroy your body and your soul in less than 10 years, why are you so retarded ?

>>7242293
not a commie I just don't like being told what to do, self employment in the local/artisanal economy self sufficiency is the key. organic economic activity within the community i suppose now i've used the word community I am a communist

>>7240338
If you dont like the price gauging, why dont you spend the billions you've made investing in crypto to cover infrastructure costs laying out all that cable?

>mfw capitalist cucks are desperate for chinese sweat shop jobs if it means the brown people will stay out of their gated communities

when will you drones realize those jobs are better suited for underdeveloped countries that have lower standards of living and corporations can get away with paying them peanuts? those jobs are never coming back and rightly so. UBI is the only logical next step unless you're a white supremacist, of course

>>7242132
become independent of the system through your own economic self sufficiency like andreas antonopolous said recently, exchange your labour for cryptocurrency and then you aren't feeding the deep state who uses your money/labour to bomb goat herders

Who here successful socialist?

Be me
Come from dirt
Still have a hood degree and great job at almost 90k
Still recognize the suffering and unfairness of the current system.

HELP YOUR FELLOW MAN OUT

>>7242495
>HELP YOUR FELLOW MAN OUT
This. Just refrain from using the government to do so.

>>7234418
>Let's create a stateless society through forced implementation of the most authoritarian government ever!

>>7242293
>>itt: libertarians discover they are closet communists

more like libertarians realize the free market is an oxymoron. if left unregulated, business interests have an inherent interest to merge and monopolize to maximize profits. there is no such thing as a free or competitive market without government regulations to prevent that see: rockefeller, JP morgan, carnegie ETC

>>7227950
>hhurr its capitalisms fault I buy high to sell low
kek

>>7242307
Cheers :)

I can't figure it out, when I explain this to them they hide behind ignorance and appeal to authority arguments. It seems to me that the decision to be a 'socialist' comes about when a scared/timid person decides to refuse to learn any more because someone smarter than them has already figured it out.

I think the education system encourages this, and refusing to think and being subordinate is a good way to get promoted in mcjobs. Hopefully we see this turn around now, but I'm not holding my breath.

What really gets me is how the issuance of Fiat is the means of production as it is the incentive to produce. We're already in socialism utopia mode now and the lefties refuse to acknowledge this reality. I guess it's no fun to fight for something that's already in place and failing so denial keeps it edgy or something.

>>7242553
Comrade, the only way those organisations and people consolidated the market and took over was through regulations.

It's why they're shutting us down and they're shutting us down with regulations. If one deregulated any sector of an economy, that sector would boom and lots of small businesses would set up to service the customer base.

Basically what we've seen in the alt coin market, it's deregulated so there's no barrier to entry and that allows anyone to take their idea and run with it.

FUN is an excellent example of what happens when things are deregulated, it'll totally reboot the gambling sector and that's just not allowed to happen because big gambling companies paid politicians to protect their monopolies via regulations.

Styx does a good video on this, he calls it cone theory.

ITT leftists and rightists learn you can fuck people leftward and rightward with or without regulations, just like you have a libertarian left and right, authoritarian left and right, and if you want a decent society to live in, you need to educate people to be decent and prosocial without sacrificing themselves in the process.

>>7242495
Commies would lynch you in a heartbeat in an actual revolution. Everyone in the upper class will be claiming the same shit as you to save their neck, it won't work.

>>7229551
>class consciousness
Why do I hate this concept?

>>7241936
>Why the fuck do stupid people actually fucking believe this?

cuz I'm not a brainlet that believes in cuckservatve propoganda.

The number 1 problem of millenials is being a wagecuck i.e. not getting paid enough by the corporations
The number 2 problem is college debt. This occurs because you are a 2nd class citizen without a college degree in society so people are willing to pay a premium for school. College used to be subsidzed by the govt back in the boomer's generation so they never had this issue.
3rd issue is being able to afford a home because house prices are so inflated. Which is a result of income inequality i.e. the wealthy people able to drive up house prices while millennial with no assets are locked out of the appreciating asset.
4th biggest problem is cost of healthcare which is similar to college in that people value it so the price is set at a premium.

The only part of our society where too much socialism exists is social security, which is really a wealth transfer from millennials to boomers.

Most of our problems are from too much capitalism and not enough govt. intervention.

t. not cuckservative, paul ryan's bitch.

>>7243451
because you realize you're responsible for your actions, and only what you do can change how many assets you have. you realize how pathetic it is for someone to believe they belong to a "class" whereby they aren't allowed to do business and provide services in return for capital, that they "can't" become more valuable because the world is "out to get" them, and their only option is to get a bottom of the barrel job working for the people they despise.

>>7243537
>The number 1 problem of millenials is being a wagecuck i.e. not getting paid enough by the corporations
only you can choose to work for a corporation, if you're so smart like you say it shouldn't be hard to start your own business or work with other genius millenials to create your ideal environment. Money doesn't come from the sky, be glad someone at all will pay your worthless ass.
>college debt
occurs because your grades were so shit that you couldn't get a scholarship. I get paid to go to school in the US and tuition is completely free. Decent school too- UT Dallas. College prices are high BECAUSE they're subsidized now, with guaranteed loans every retard wants to go to school and will go in debt to get a shitty diploma, of course the price will go straight up. Much more demand for the same thing, if you don't understand that, I know why you're poor.
>houses are "the appreciating asset"
are you larping right now? real estate can be a good investment if you know what you're doing, but buying a house for you to live in is a horrible asset in terms of returns than stuff that is far more liquid and doesn't require so much capital.
>health care is expensive
literally a non-issue if you aren't a fatass who eats mcdonalds and sits on his computer all day. obamacare made it shit too.
>social security is bad
agree

>>7243610
You put it so perfectly into words it's amazing. Thanks, anon. And yes, I know people who believe in that and go so far as to claim that if you don't, you are some sort of traitor. It's pathetic.

>>7243799

You cuckservatives are soo fucking stupid.

>only you can choose to work for a corporation, if you're so smart like you say it shouldn't be hard to start your own business or work with other genius millenials to create your ideal environment. Money doesn't come from the sky, be glad someone at all will pay your worthless ass.
I'm not going to work for a corporation but that doesn't change anything. Even as an entrepreneur/consumer, I'll still be buying goods from corporations and I might even have to compete against them which means I gotta be competitive. if they are paying shit then I'll have to pay shit to compete.

>occurs because your grades were so shit that you couldn't get a scholarship. I get paid to go to school in the US and tuition is completely free. Decent school too- UT Dallas. College prices are high BECAUSE they're subsidized now, with guaranteed loans every retard wants to go to school and will go in debt to get a shitty diploma, of course the price will go straight up. Much more demand for the same thing, if you don't understand that, I know why you're poor.
I got a full-ride free scholarship.
I also attended a university with a much lower acceptance rate than 52%.
Maybe that is why I am more educated?

This doesn't change anything.
Fact is if you are poor then you get a full-ride.
If you are rich then you can afford sticker price.
Lots of middle-class people get screwed.
You know that saying that the benefit of a college education is 1m over the course of your life?
Well that means the fair market cost of college is the NPV of that 1,000,000 which equates to somethign like 300k per year.
It also doesn't help that many schools are now focusing on attracting full-pay intl student
The bottom-line is the free market will RAISE the cost of college cuz it's undervalued.
Only govt subsidizes can make college affordable in the long-run

>>7243799
>are you larping right now? real estate can be a good investment if you know what you're doing, but buying a house for you to live in is a horrible asset in terms of returns than stuff that is far more liquid and doesn't require so much capital.

The sooner you buy a house, the sooner you can take advantage of the fact that home prices increase on average. It's an investment that helps with your long-term net worth

>literally a non-issue if you aren't a fatass who eats mcdonalds and sits on his computer all day. obamacare made it shit too.
>Yes because not being to afford screenings for preventable conditions is soo great.
Or not being able to afford going to a dentist.

I'm going to guess you are under 30 year old and a NEET. It's obvious you have 0 clue what it means to be an adult and to have a decent life.

>>7243966
Dude shut the fuck up cuck. Get the fuck off this board and go down soy milk or whatever it is you leftists marxist faggots. Fucking KEK. FUCK YOU.

>>7241895

better hope it doesn't snow first idpol fags

>>7244076
>he's btfoing my worldview
>I'll call him a cuck
>that's a neat trick
The absolute state of libertardians as the DOW and crypto crash.

>>7244076
>Dude shut the fuck up cuck. Get the fuck off this board and go down soy milk or whatever it is you leftists marxist faggots. Fucking KEK. FUCK YOU.

The sad part is I actually want to Make America Great Again, like when boomer's have subsidized college.

You wanna suck corporate dick and you think Jamie Dimon is gonna trickle down his wealth to you. Say what you want about leftpol but at least they aren't dillusional hicks.

>>7243966
if you invest 100k right now in a decent asset (let's say 8%) it'd be worth 10 million dollars in 60 years. by your definitions pretty much every asset is undervalued. even just interest rates are "undervalued" in frontier markets where interest rates are like 10%.
>The sooner you buy a house, the sooner you can take advantage of the fact that home prices increase on average. It's an investment that helps with your long-term net worth
how does one take advantage of living in a high value house? you're not making any returns on that, it's not liquid at all, and the higher value of the house you live in- you actually waste more money from property taxes. a house is not some epic investment that defines your "class", it's one of the worst "investments" you can get. I'm not against owning a home, it's great to own a home, but it's just trash from a financial perspective.

>>7244172
Pay rent
Landlord gets money

Pay mortgage
Get ownership of house

Owning a house is the difference between spending money on yourself and giving it away.

>>7244367
>pay mortgage
>pay twice what the house is worth
>keep paying property taxes
>keep paying for maintenance
>get literally no return on the investment

or
>buy asset
>get actual returns on your investment
>pay rent or buy property, whatever you want, but keep your investments separate from your lifestyle purchases

>>7242495
Socialism fucks over your fellow man

>>7244100
Marxism is idpol

>>7243537
Our problems come from government interventionism

The federal reserve is the main cause of all of our problems and it is government interventionism

We need a free market
Also kill all commies desu

>>7244424
wtf r u talking about?

Look you gotta live somewhere.
Unless u value freedom to relocate, buying a house is better than renting cuz the payment goes to principle rather than giving it away to landlord

>>7229726
>>>7228858
>how would UBI even work?

Plenty of resources if you bother to look.

Endorsed by right and left wing think tanks and economists

For me though its about ending a system of coercion that creates an economy of shit jobs and destroys human potential. Why do corporations run the governments of the world? Why is our planet literally going down the drain? Why aren't there any jobs being created that people want to do? Why do have a overly complicated system of entitlements instead of a simple cash payment?

We inherited an unevolved, dim view of human nature along with a jerry-rigged system of punishment and denigration. Its all baked into our brains through institutionalized conditioning as children. People are fucking brainwashed to accept their "ratings"

>but muh handouts

Minimum is minimum. People will always want more and will work whatever shit job there is the difference is:

a) No one will be FORCED to do so and

B) Employers will have to pay the fair cost of free labor

tl'dr pretty much life will go on with the above adjustments leading to an even more productive and happy and satisfied population;

Read up on it you brain dead right wing morons. You too ya dumb leftist fucks.

Its either this or down the drain we go

>>7244586
total bullshit

you didn't respond to anything I said and went into regurgitating right-wing talking points
congrats on being a brainlet and keep on cuckin

>>7244597
The only problem with UBI is that it will eventually require population control
but that'll probably happen anyways in the next 100-200 years.

>>7244591
the return on the investment of an investment asset- not a house, can be much higher than the cost of rent. that's why in korea there is jonse, you give someone 200k$ for 2 years and they let you live there for free, give your money back later. they made your rent money on the interest.

>>7244528

read a book you are too retarded for words just please read literally anything