/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>710207
My belief is that one should diversify their learning. People diversify everything else...what they eat...that in which they invest...their clothes, etc.

I don't mean diversify with requirements or a minor. I mean diversify with two majors or two different degrees.

Starbucks deserves a college educated workforce

>>710214
Unfufilled engineering major detected.

You know you can major in a STEM subject and not be an autistic philistine? It's true!

I've always felt that humanities are something that didn't need, and in fact clashed against the rigid structure of academia, whereas STEM was perfectly suited to this. I think the smart thing to do is to go to school for a practical skill that will earn you a living and pay off your debts, and you can persue your own studies in the mean time.

Source: Software Engineering Major and avid reader.

>>710255
are you me?

>>710262
No, he's me.

>>710207
So are you unemployed or successful enough to be a part-time Wal-Mart cashier?

>>710266
I am an unpaid scholar. I survive off government subsidies so I can spend my days at the local library perusing the classics and pondering the greatest philisophical propositions of all time. Tis a lonely but enlightening life.

>>710271
Surprise! Some of us don't want to be welfare queens living in mommy's basement or in section 8 housing.

But whatever floats your boat.

>>710276
I think he's being facetious.

I studied neuroscience in college. Worked my ass off to a 4.0 in my first two years taking the basic bio and chem classes. Worked in a lab my last two years may hours a day for no pay, for a professor who didn't appreciate me. In grad school now in a third rate school getting poverty wages, literally below minimum wage. I'm thinking about killing myself.
Ask me anything.

>>710286
You should just drop everything and be like the guy from into the wild. Except for the alaska part. But I mean if you really want to die that is quite a romantic way to go.

Liberal Arts major here.

Making 60K out of work in middle management and generally enjoying life. about to get married to a beautiful japanese girl with a fat ass if you have any questions let me know

>>710286
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>10 hours a day
jagger pls

>>710286
Get your masters and bail, dude.

>>710293
I've always disliked him, such an attention whore. If I were to do it I would just disappear.
>>710296
I think my parents and girlfriend would be pretty upset. Maybe my brothers too. However even with my shit pay it would be quite a financial boon to all of them since I'm too much of an autist to spend any money and I have quite a bit in savings and investments.

>>710286

Why did you study neuroscience and not become an MD?

>>710303
>girlfriend
KILL YOURSELF FUCKING NORMIE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>710306
I cared more about the research and I didn't want to get into debt.

>>710307
Don't worry, it's long distance, she lives 4 hours away and I don't have a driver's license or a car so if it makes you feel better, pepe, she's probably cheating on me.

>>710310
That does make me feel a bit better

>>710309
>I cared more about the research and I didn't want to get into debt.

So let me ask you again, why did you study neuroscience and not become an MD?

>>710311
I know. Learn from me and don't fuck (typed cuck originally lol) up this hard.

>>710313
MD = debt, I would have no way to pay for it but loans
PhD = small amount of pay, research

>>710317

MD = Debt + $350,000 salary + Living well below means for 5 years = Upper class life forever + still able to do research
PhD = No debt + poverty + research

>>710320
Pretty much. I came from a pretty poor family so debt was the devil. I chose my college soley based on the fact that I would get free tuition + room and board. Not sure if it was a good decision but it's a running joke that everyone I know has starting crying at their desk. Hasn't happened to me yet, halfway through my third year.

>>710313
Because medical school carries a ton of debt, has a high rate of attrition, and is notoriously hard to get into and remain. I agree with the sentiment of your posts though...in that >>710309 could be doing something else with neuroscience that's more lucrative.

Medicine is a profession and a vocation. Not everyone can do it or will it to be as a career. Also, doctors are notoriously broke when they're 250k in debt making 40-60k during their residency working 100 hours some weeks for those 2-8 years depending upon what type of medicine into which they matriculate.

Not trying to be a dick, but...
>4 years undergrad
>4 years med school
>1 year internship
>variable years of residency (2-8)
>1-3 years specialization (optional)
>1-2 years sub-specialization (optional)
>All dem licensing exams
>Board Certs and Spec Certs (optional)
Who has time for that?

Also malpractice, ethical issues, drug addiction, infidelity, burnout, and suicide plague the medical industry. I think there are easier ways to make a buck.

>710325
>Also malpractice, ethical issues, drug addiction, infidelity, burnout, and suicide
This is all true. Same guy. I have a good friend who went to med school instead of grad school, is just as depressed, questioning his choice, and semi-dependent on opiates.

>>710325
>Also malpractice, ethical issues, drug addiction, infidelity, burnout, and suicide
This is all true. Same guy. I have a good friend who went to med school instead of grad school, is just as depressed, questioning his choice, and semi-dependent on opiates.

>>710330
Also two of my coworkers quit in the past year because of psychiatric issues, one brought on by drug use.
Not sure if STEM is good business

>>710325
...saging to avoid overbumping but...
What is a more lucrative career in neuroscience without a graduate degree?

>>710334
If you were really interested in medicine, which you aren't, you could do what a friend of mine did. She majored in kinesiology--a bullshit major--wound getting her master's in nursing and became a certified registered nurse anesthetist, and works primarily with peds. Makes 200k. It only took her I think 5 years after undergrad.

>>710336
Pharmaceutical sales.
Lab tech.
Science writer.
Public health policy.
Grant writer.
I have a friend who works as a regional salesman for GE for their medical laboratory equipment division. Anyway, all the stuff he sells is for pathologists and toxicologists as well neurologists and psychiatrists--specialized microscopes, computerized tomography machines, various laboratory equipment. He majored in philosophy and neuroscience at UMD and does well. Really well.

also saging then lol

>>710343
How 2 get job like this?

>>710345
Check out General Electric's website. Otherwise, I'd bet you can a better job. Seriously, network, apply for everything, ask profs who liked you, contact your alma mater's career services dept., do the footwork--research companies, work on your resume/CV, put a lot of work into cover letters, get references/recommendations lined up, etc.

I'm sorry it won't be easy.

>>710347
I suppose it won't be. It's just hard coming unstuck and basically giving up.

>>710349
Yep. Motivation can be difficult. Your frustration will help you in that regard though.

>>710294
Pic of fiancee?

Why do people think they're better than other people because of something they study? Is this a meme or a real thing?

Wow, that is one rare Pepe you've got there OP.

>>710576

The best men have always been men of letters.

I studied both.

>>710611
I feel like the answer to the question in the image lies in how long the activities have been in the country. (My country is US so I'm gonna use that as my reference point) Manga has been around the past like 20 years? Anime has been around like 15? Cosplaying has only gotten big recently, 10 years?
However, social drinking has been around for nearly all of the US' years, and completely boomed after prohibition. Which has been the past 95 years roughly? Give it time and I'm willing to bet that cosplaying and such will get near equal footing with social drinking and other activities.

I don't know why I wrote this.

>>710294
Your second-life character sounds like they have moderate success. Congrats I guess...

>>710207
Implying 99% of STEM students dont study both. What kind od shit kicker schools just have you study engineering classes with no humanities requirements?

>>710643 implying that anyone gains any real knowledge from taking an African Womens studies class.

>>710576
Any gifted person can do well in STEM, but most STEM studies are bland and soul crushing. A computer can do most things an engineer can, but much quicker and cheaper. Pursuing a liberal education helps capture the human essence. No robot can contemplate philisophical problems or debate politics. I just quick BSed this using buzzwords, but I hope you get the main argument.

>>710579
Save it, its all yours my friend :)

>>710663
Muh nigga.

OP, I think your question has the answer inside of it.

"True patricians desire a liberal education"

99% of this board are not patricians of any sort, so it doesn't apply.

>>710207
>studying humanities

>>710207
I really hope this guy doesn't waste $80k dollars on a degree in liberal arts when he could've studied all of that on his own without going to college, and still have similar job prospects.

Not saying that studying the humanities isn't a noble pursuit, but paying to study them is retarded. Unless you weren't advocating paying to study liberal arts at a university, in which case this doesn't apply.

>>710663
>a computer can do most things an engineer can

>a spanner can do most things a mechanic can

>pills can do most things a doctor can

Retard

>>710255
>>710262
>>710265
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Evidently, none of you are each other.

>>710663

I think STEM is one of those things that's what you make of it. I mean an engineer is really an inventor using deep mathematical truths to improve peoples lives. I think that's pretty exciting and noble.

Unfortunately a lot of people in STEM are not passionate people and do it to skirt through and get a cushy job doing the bland and soul crushing stuff you mentioned. There's not as much extrinsic reward for liberal arts unless you're really good at it, so I think there are more people there that are genuinely interested in learning.

Look at computer science (what I studied): 99% of the people there are just oblivious vidya addicts that just want to code and be done with it, when there is so much depth to the field beyond just learning how to code. The open problems in computer science to are some of the most philosophical of all unanswered mathematical questions (see P vs NP), but too many people are focused on the money to care about things that they can't apply to a career.

>>710286
Is Neuroscience psychology for people too autistic to be psychologists?

>>710663
You just gave me a great idea: chatbots that spam comment boards at election times, creating the illusion of consensus without needing to pay a human shill. My STEM education makes it possible to implement this. Thank you, condescending stranger.

>>711020
This is true, a lot of people in the most money-making STEM courses are just in it for the money. They are smart, but they don't really care deeply about the subject.