/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7068683
good for you on finding happiness in your own path

>In my 20's
>Quit my job to become starving artist
>Struggle to pay bills with freelance gigs in between working on my novel
>Parents suggest that I move in to save money
>"Okay, what could go wrong?"
>They insinuate themselves into every part of my life
>Kill my dating life
>Take up drinking habit to cope with their constant invasive bullshit
>They nag me about that too
>It's like I'm goddamned 16 again

This is worse than wagecucking, so much goddamn worse.

Am low level wage-slave. Physical labor at warehouse
Boss like me because smart. Coworker respect me because strong
Live with mommy

>>7069924
I dreamed of having jobs like yours or being a Fedex delivery person. Zero pressure.

>>7069581
You can't find a room to rent?

>>7068683
>Harvard graduate here
>that grammar
Pls

>>7069581

Moved back home fo rmed shcool, as my parents hosue is like 20 mins away from it. It's been tough getting the boundaries in place with my mom. My dad is fine and always chill af. Mom is sweet but so over bearing it hurts.

Last week I came home after finishing up surg rotation, studying in lib till alte afterwards. Got hom for around 11.45, knowing I'll have be up at 05.45.

She had pulled the clothes out of my wardrobe with a sign on paper syaing "please fold these", as well as having pulled off my bed sheets. I shouted so loudly, and fucked a cup against the wall.

Dad told my mom to stop tf is she doing, she doesn't even work. I grilled her too. I don't think there's any non-neurotic owmen in their 60's. They all go fucking crazy

been making 6 figures since I was 23 and never set foot in a commie indoctrination college or wagecuck cubicle ask me how

>>7071084
How?

>>7068683
>Harvard graduate

Human offal.

Corporate wagecuck here finance division
Hate life only live for the weekends. Haven’t killed myself bc I love my wife. If I could just escape from this pit of despair that I call my desk I would be happy.

>>7071134

>airforce at 18
>discharged at 23
>started overseas contracting that same year

ezlife

>>7070551

Would have to save up to afford it. That would require going back to wagie life, and I'm so deep in that I may as well finish writing first.

>>7070959

Parents are insane, man.

>>7068683
OP this is gonna sound harsh but I don't understand how you graduate from Harvard and then end up getting a shitty job you don't like. You were on fucking wall street, that's like as good as wagecucking can possible get.

My story:
>after AP gov class in high school told myself I would never want to be in gov't or major in political science
>go to college, remain "undecided" as to my major for a year
>took some political science courses, always got As and A+'s one everything
>Sophomore year comes and I have to declare
>Fuck it, might as well do PolySci in addition to foreign language. I could probably get some sweet job working in an embassy or another country
>Enjoy my classes, learn a lot, but by senior year get sucked into SJW "racial and gender politics"
>Take classes on qualitative analysis instead of quantitative
>Graduate from college in 2013 and be so fucking glad to be out of school
>the entire time I'm in school can barely focus because I feel like a near incel while all my friends have relationships and sex
>Could never truly focus and think, just spent all time smoking pot and attempting to get pussy but failing
>Finally graduate
>Move back to home city, get super low paying job at museum but end up getting fired (not performance related)
>Get another job at biggest non profit in my state. Organization is great and helps poor kids in other countries, aligns with my personal goals
>Job is standard 9-5 but it's customer service. Take 40-100 calls per day, answer emails, translate children's letters data entry
>Do this for 2 years with no advancement, that sweet $13 an hour I went to college for
>Finally have mental break down and quit in early 2016
>Go on road trip spend a month in California enjoying life meeting cool people spending too much money
>Go back home and look for jobs
>Get a sales job for software company
>cool job, benefits, etc.
>cold calling people all day, over a hundred calls, convince them to see demo
> fired after 1.5 year

>>7071760

>before I was fired they had me on inbound sales for a few months last year
>easy money, had to do no work at all and had double the sales that co-workers had
>then they put me back on outbound sales and I sucked at it
>all of a sudden I had to work 5 times as hard for less than half the money
>get burnt out
>get fired last fall
>dumped hall my 401k into crypto,
>doubled my money so far even with downturn in market
>praying for moon missions so that I can escape wagecuckery
>about to sign up for food delivery uber type service (can't uber car is too old)
>I can't go back to regular wagecucking, I have no skills and have to take entry level jobs in which $40k a year would be a damn good wage

its highly competitive in my profession where everyone is an Ivy League grad with rich parents.

Rich kids got nothing to loose they work for passion and that gave them huge company cred.

I'm also mildly autistic and can't handle office interactions without turning beet red. People in the office sense this.

>>7068683
Mba studeny here. Heading down the same path. Will kill myself

>>7071760
You missed his entire point, which is that having money is fucking meaningless if it is destroying your quality of life. To some people, money = quality of life. To most, though, there are other things. You can live a perfectly happy and relatively wealthy life on $100k/year. When I hear about people I know who make $3MM+/year, I have to wonder why they bother working for more than 2-3 years.

With $9MM you can retire and be unbelievably rich forever. You can go crashing jets into walls and not give any fucks, but you can have almost anything you want, take multiple vacations a year, and never have to work if you don't want to.

There are some very shit low paying jobs, but honestly after having been on both sides of the track, I'd take the replaceable 9-5 over golden handcuffs every day. OP has it right, small biz is the way to go - you slave some, but you slave for yourself, and you slave as much as you want to and only that much. I just bought a house but my next purchase will be a small business to run so I can quit my fucked golden handcuffs job.

Just bought a Tumi bag. Made 1.3MM from 35k in 8 months. Thanks for the fashion advice OP.

>>7071917
I’m the same way with office interactions. I don’t know what it is I just fucking hate it. As a result makes everyone hate me. I pray that we can escape this hell bro.

>>7069581
>They insinuate themselves into every part of my life
>They insinuate themselves
>insinuate

>>7071996

I mean yeah I agree, but trust me wagecucking in a low paying job that has nothing to do with any of your skills is awful. I haven't worked a single job since graduating college that I've felt was a utilization of my mind or skills. Every single job I've had since college I easily could have done with barely a high school education. My only saving grace is that my parents had enough money to put me through college. If I had to take out loans and was tens of thousands of dollars in debt I really don't know what I'd do

>>7071848
>doubled 400k
>wanting to drive uber

wat

>>7071996
This desu.

Ultimately it comes down to personality and your attitude towards working and having the discipline to get up 6:30am commute 1.5 hours through angry commuters in NYC/SF and suffer the 8 hours of humiliation and observe constant ass kissing in a highly competitive corporate environment and then go home after another 1.5 hours of traffic and eat, shit, at 9:30pm to start all over again for years and years.

Some people enjoy that level of self-cuckery, they think it's "discipline" or as the Jews sells it: work ethics.

I'm at home in my underwear and work 4-8 hours a week and I'm happy af. Very little human interactions and when I have a meeting, it's with an equal partner, not under a boss. And I have a great time usually meeting my equals and vendors.

>>7072010
Not even kidding. I've been looking for a nice messenger bag for a month now.

>>7072388
>messenger bags

Lmao what a faggot.

>>7069924
zug zug

>>7072388
You can have mine for $250, like new.

>>7072319
dude I was talking about the money in my 401k. Do you know what a 401k is ? It's a retirement fund. I wasn't talking about doubling $401,000. That would be fucking awesome

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't American

>>7072388
>This thread is now about our messenger bags
https://www.duluthpack.com/executive-portfolio.html

>>7072571
I only applied to two Ivys (Yale and Columbia) and didn't get into either. Ended up at NYU and couldn't have been happier.

My parents were pretty successful in the corporate world, but they never pushed me to do the same. I think it's because deep down they knew it was bullshit and soul killing, and didn't want the same for their kids. They kind of just let me do whatever I wanted when I was growing up, and the only reason I think I got anywhere academically was because my best friend was a monstrous over-achiever and some of it rubbed off on me.

Don't feel guilt or shame, they are powerful emotions that shouldn't be applied to your pursuit of happiness in life. It's something I struggle with myself.

>>7072676
Those are not good looking bags anon, the one I bought is sleek, unassuming, professional looking (not that I have a job), and screams good taste.

what if i want to wear nice pants and a shirt and a nice comfy office job?

>>7072618
Nice just bought 401k

>>7071184
what exactly do you have to do at a desk job that is so bad?

>>7072928
Stare at a computer screen and twiddle my thumbs while sitting on my ass. It’s not the job that I hate it’s the people.

>>7072760
>not getting into an ivy
>not having good taste
Big Red Bear eats Bobcat

>>7069924
this, I'm a line worker and get paid $14 hr to chop mangoes. It's the most stress free shit ever but I'm looking to return to neet life by 2019

>>7068683
I actually enjoy cubicle work for the social aspect of it. Otherwise, I fully hate the 9-5 mentality of being stressed, while boss pressuring me knowing I might get fired.
Sad that I know I won't make it with crypto to save my life, all I want is to put my mom in a nice house and my dad a car to show my appreciation.

>parents split up for the 3rd and "final" time 7 years ago
>get a job working 7 days a week, 10 hours a day to pay rent since my mother was pretty much unemployed
>job ends, we get a new orthodox jewish landlord
>knocks on our door 3 times within 2 days of buying the building asking for back rent (previous landlord never asked because we helped her show the apartments and keep the building clean)
>tell mom this aint gonna fly, we need a new plan
>she moves in with her father, who is old and alone after my grandmother died a few years earlier
>i rent a room across town with her friends mother
>room to myself in a cheap part of town, small balcony and a river view right outside my window
>life is really, really good while i go to college, need little to no help from anyone with bills or tuition
>finally get a gf in my last semester, better than i could've ever hoped for in almost everyway
>realize life is too good, start expecting it to go right into the toilet again

i fucking hate it when i'm right.

1/2

>work retail
>senior year
>graduate
>work six days a week
>sacrificed my sex life, friend life and hobbies to become a workaholic making 10.25$ an hour
>make btc and crypto investments
>they are now worth 35k
Tfw I passed on fucking the only slut I have been intement with for fucking great value money. My crypto portfolio is worth 100 biweekly paychecks now. I contemplate quiting every weekend I work.

>>7069581
Goddamn, this.
I'm not fully at home (I stay at a friend's house) but Jesus Christ I cannot do anything while I am there.

> College grad
> Currenty working
> Trying to find job within specfic field
> Get interview
> No mention of pay so ask at interview
> "Director" lady becomes standoffish and says we are not discussing that right now even though it was my turn to ask questions
> Interview continues, I should've left
> Waste time at an interview when I should've left

>>7073373
that's not really something you ask at an interview, that can be asked at any time

>graduate college
>get shit ass accountant clerk job making $15 an hr
>invest $1000 in cryptos back in october
>made $22k at the peak, but now its down to 5k
>threw in another $2.8k on new cryptos recently
>this is my one and only chance to escape this bullshit monotonous life
>having trouble sleeping, constantly sweating and anxious all the time
>know even if I win big, it wont be more than like 50k max
>know I'll have to wageslave anyways

What is the purpose of this life

> trading crypto since feb 2017
> fuck up constantly but still make gains because 2017
> finish business degree august 2017
> start first job in sept
> want to kill myself instantly
> my coins moon
> quit job in first week
> parents/gf/friends all think im a fucking retard for quitting and going full neet crypto trader
> up 10x since sept
> made more money than anyone else in my grad glass
> everyone resents me for my "luck"

feels...good?

>>7069581
Move in with a good friend. My mother in law stayed with me for 6 months and it's pure hell. She never worked a day in her life and she's telling me constantly how to be rich and telling me her friend's sons all buying million dollar mansions and opening new restaurants every month. If there's one thing I hate more than being a wagecuck if living with my mother in law.

>>7072719
I hate suckups like you. Kindly leave my thread. Also, Columbia nor NYU are not Ivy League mmkay?

>>7073216
>mother spends the entire time taking care of my crazy grandfather, never finds steady work (never has as long as i can think back)
>grandfather gets crazier, needs 24 hour home attendants; she can't stay anymore and weasels her way into my dads new place
>they complain about each other for years (again); at least im not there
>she takes several trips to florida a year to be with her ""friend,"" my dads former business partner (dad fucked it up, not him) but wont stay when i tell her to
>the plan has always been to take my family apartment with her when gramps passes, but i never liked it
>grandpa passed away 2 weeks ago, i have to move to a much more expensive neighborhood against my will
>posting this from an aparment i hate that i can't afford and wouldnt want if i could
>lost all my freedom, independence, sanity and hopes for the future to save my "free spirited" mother from her own fucking stupidity and (continued) homelessness
>no gas in the aparment for a year, so no stove to cook on
>cant smoke in the building at all, so the only thing that could keep me sane is gone
>entire family now expects me to get a job and like it

i honestly would welcome a bullet at this point. i had everything i ever wanted for years, now i have literally nothing to live for. the only thing i have to look forward to is moving the fuck out, and that is not happening any time soon.

>>7073556
Wait so your mom is moving back in with you? She works? Ask her to contribute to the rent or mortgage

>>7073632
shes looking for work now and we're going to find someone to rent the third room, but we're in a rent stabilized apartment in a very expensive part of town. the owners of the building are going to try to jack up the rent as much as they can; if they succeed it might be 3k a month.

the place i just moved from cost me $350 a month, everything included. plus, i could smoke as much as i liked and had a goddamn stove to cook on. my rent has doubled in the last week and i have nothing but negatives to show for it - it feels like i'm paying to live in a prison cell with my mother as the warden

>>7068683
>I'm doing my own small biz that have zero relationship with my Harvard degree

WTF did you study to have a degree that you don't use? I took value from every single class I ever took and use it daily.

>>7073777
>shes looking for work now and we're going to find someone to rent the third room, but we're in a rent stabilized apartment in a very expensive part of town. the owners of the building are going to try to jack up the rent as much as they can; if they succeed it might be 3k a month.
>the place i just moved from cost me $350 a month, everything included. plus, i could smoke as much as i liked and had a goddamn stove to cook on. my rent has doubled in the last week and i have nothing but negatives to show for it - it feels like i'm paying to live in a prison cell with my mother as the warden

Dude don't do this to yourself

>>7073554
uhh, never said NYU was Ivy, but Columbia definitely is you retarded faggot. Also I wasn't sucking up, I was simply sharing some advice. Kill yourself you larping faggot, no way you went to Harvard and don't now that Columbia is Ivy.

>runescape-addicted loser in high school
>wake up one day and decide i want to have friends and money one day
>graduate high school and quit runescape cold turkey
>make friends and party regularly in college
>graduate college and later on p-school
>earn more money than i originally anticipated from wagecucking (inflation i guess)
>make a retarded amount of gains from crypto in less than 6 months
tfw bored of friends/money that i started chasing 10+ years ago

>>7070959
>Moved back home fo rmed shcool

One of the saddest things I've read on the internet. A dyslexic doctor that can't care for himself and whines about not getting free rent. We are fucked.

>>7073777
Set up ground rules with your mom, no talking except about food for her getting a job.

Some moms are bearable and chill, if your mom is like my mother in law, time to think about moving out. Your stress will affect your health slowly.

>>7073815
its too late. theres no escaping this hell that was built for me - this was always the plan; i was lucky to have such a long time to be happy on my own. until i come up with a new plan, i am stuck here, paying to live in a place i hate with the last person i'd ever want to live with. i am destined to be a wage slave and no one can save me.

its gonna be a long, LONG year.

>>7073842
you can give me the money since its so boring

>>7073842
Drop me you ETH and i will kill em all
0x6481daefEaC831EB2730c7aFA6F3CAC0f568d53e

>>7073791
>Why do people make mistakes?
>Hurr durr I'm so smart I never make any mistakes I do everything exactly as I planned I don't get why people are not rich and powerful hurr durr it's so easy for me I got everything right the first time

Fuck off bitch

>>7068683
seems you have sensible priorities anon
good luck with your business

This thread is larp. OP didn't know that Columbia was an Ivy league. He didn't go to Harvard and never "climbed the corporate ladder"

>>7073942
i havent had a good nights sleep all year, my health is already beginning to suffer. my mother isnt that bad, but with the stress of us having to find jobs and pay this much rent, all her brothers and sisters being on her case about their fathers belongings (that we have to sort out but cant throw out because they want to look through IN JULY), and the hoighty-toighty assholes in this building, its just really the shittiest time i can recall in my life.

and this is included the time we were in an abuse and battery shelter when i was 8, and the time we were in a homeless shelter when i was 13. i hadnt tasted true freedom or happiness yet; having it taken from me for so little in return is just the biggest kick in the balls i could ask for

>>7074056
Shut the fuck up and leave this thread. I think you got better things to do don't you?

>>7074075
Tell me again how and who cornered you to be in this new place? Who made you sign the lease?

>>7068683
>26
>fail out of college because not interested enough and too delusional to understand consequences at that point
>moderately intelligent but zero "real world" skills
>social anxiety
>live with parents who constantly fight
>father secretely hates me
>work as a waiter in the family restaurant
>wake up most of the times wishing i didnt exist
>dont know how to get out of this situation
>useless at manual skills, literally barely can change a lightbulb- have a panic attack when requiring to learn something new, mind literally goes blank
>can't imagine how I can compete in a job interview against supremely confident super-socialized high-energy optimistic Stacys or against confident, self-assured Chads
>only business ideas that pop into my head are based on taking advantage of people's vanity and other vices to extract their money
>can't do it because it goes against my moral sense
>at the point of a nervous breakdown

>>7068683
>tfw 29, wagecuck
>60k/ year in a suburban GA town which is great money
>for perspective, my (ex) wife and I bought a nice, 1800sqft 4bed, 2.5 bath home, in a subdivision, with an acre of land for 120k here
>Still not fucking enough
>now going through a divorce, and paying more for rent than I was for my mortgage by a wide margin
>Wife doesn't make enough to cover the house, and is behind on payments, about to default, as well as being behind on her car, on which I am the primary lessee
>this kills the credit
>from 720 to > 600 real quick
>Just had to take out a loan at 30% interest to pay for my attorney
>She's going to get child support, no doubt

it's true on /fit/ and it's true on /biz/
Women are the ultimate gainz goblins

>>7072618

I audibly cracked the fuck up at my desk. we may or may not make it, but we're all in this together boyos

>>7074134
>supremely confident super-socialized high-energy optimistic Stacys or against confident, self-assured Chads

when you look for a job in any legit companies with over 500 employees in a metro area like San Fran New York, the entire office is filled with these. They joke around all day and bosses love them.

>>7074123
if i didnt move in, my mother would be literally homeless. its not a physical gun to my head, but it might as well be

we havent even gotten gotten the place in our name yet, but its looking like things might go more smoothly than expected. i havent been here a week, all my things are still in bags and boxes - its a developing story

>>7074302
Primary catalyst for the split?

>>7069581
>tfw live at home
>tfw only one parent

feels comfy desu

>>7074134
i didnt do anything with my life, played games all day long. at the age of 22 suddenly realized something major. if i dont change ill be homeless, without wife/gf or fugly wife/gf, no money, no skills, no social life, no life experience at the age of 30 and it'll be a point of no return which means ill live like shit till death.

my character has become so cancerous because of laziness, procastrination and gaming that its hard to change. atm stopped gaming, trying get skilled in comp sci/programming and i like finance topics. need to be my own boss or suicide.

what gave me a bit of power after 10y+ of gaming? my survival instinct is awakening because i know i'll be 0 if i continue like this. awaken that instinct, gl

>>7074387
She has unresolved mental health issues (manic depression, anxiety, both diagnosed) and refuses to see a professional. This was pushed over the edge after the birth of our last child, because of postpartum

>>7068683
Congrats bruh, you're making it

>>7074485
You’ll be fine you’re still young. You’re getting your shit together and that’s good. Study hard and you’ll make it. Just make damn fucking sure you get an internship during school or getting your first job will be a real bitch and you’ll probably have to settle for something really shitty until you get your entry level job.

>>7074340
To me they look like robots. I can't understand how someone can be so unironically hyped up and optimistic all the time. Maybe if you do coke.

>>7068683
I am a uni of Toronto grad who is working my second job. Horrible commute, crippling hours, nonexistent training. I started last week and have decided to resign tomorrow.

Why do people glamorize this draconian finance work industry? Work 11 hours a day to show just how much you love this company... for 10+ years if you want to earn anything more than peanuts.

I want to open my own business. I dont mind long hours if its something i love. What's your idea OP? I'll partner with you. Got some free capital from crypto i don't mind investing in something long term

>>7072258
What are you focused on now out of interest? This might help if you're looking to go deep. https://www.actualized.org/life-purpose-course

>>7070959
>fucked a cup against the wall.

>>7074092
>HURRR SHUT THE FUCK UP STOP CALLING ME OUT ON MY LIES

Here's some advice, if you're going to larp about your life don't pick a place like Harvard to lie about. From reading your posts you clearly know nothing about elite academia nor high level corporate employment. You are a larper with embarrassingly shallow knowledge about the lies you're telling, it's laughable and pathetic.

>muh harvard

Like I said, kys faggot LMAO.

Fellas, I'm out. In the past this board really helped me out, both with cryptos and for other aspects of life and business. But now, this board has become a shit-show of pajeets shilling coins to other pajeets, just an echo chamber of shitcoins.

I might come back in a year and hope for the best, but for now, this is goodbye. To the real /biznessmen here, I wish you luck, lambos, and moon missions.

To the pajeet and ponzi scum... get hit by a fucking train, you niggers.

>>7074556
They're high on lyfe bruh. After work they usually go bar hopping with junior bosses and I hated those because I can't drink.

>>7074546
Don't listen to this jew. It's the whole point of this thread, study hard got Harvard degree got accepted to Fortune 500 companies is overrated. This nigger missed the entire point of the thread.

>>7068683
>Late teens
>Working in a grocery store to put money in my pocket through college
>Hourly pay is dogshit
>Job is unionized
>Union takes money out of the very little money I already make
>Employers won't let anyone work full time because of union benefits
>Eventually union benefits are cut back to absolutely nothing
>We still have to give money to a union that gives us no benefits

>>7071996
>I have to wonder why they bother working

They enjoy working, that's why they are good at it. I could never imagine not working. I'd want to kill myself.

Just to reiterate, OP is lying. He claims to have gone to Harvard yet didn't know Columbia was an Ivy league.

what a laughable larp.

>>7072258
>I haven't worked a single job since graduating college that I've felt was a utilization of my mind or skills.

Why?

>>7074744
When the alternative is still wageslaving only at fucking fast food or retail, which do you think is better? People have to work to survive dumbass. I’m assuming you’re some trust fund kiddie since you went to Harvard. Suck a thousand cocks you faggot. You don’t know shit.

>>7074695
Ya still here? Jealousy and butthurt is a powerful emotion. There's nothing glamorous about my past with Harvard or being in a glass office and a personal secretary. I gave it all up because I'm not made for having a boss over me. I can't pretend I'm having a great time working when I'd rather scratch my crotch all day and sniff it while refreshing Blockfolio.

I chose to be free.

>>7074485

Hey, I had a similar experience as you, and managed to get my shit together by learning compsci/programming on my own. Here are some things that are easy to do, and will exponentially help you get better at whatever you're trying to learn (whether its compsci, finance, whatever the fuck)

1. Block 4chan, reddit, distractions/porn etc. in your hosts file on your computer: https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts
2. If you have a bunch of Steam/Blizzard games/friends, remove em all. Uninstall that shit and forget about it.
3. Stop eating like shit.
4. Take cold showers every morning. It's absolutely brutal at first, especially if you're depressed/have trouble waking up
5. Take up a secondary creative hobby to fill the void that removing gaming/browsing time waster websites will inevitably create. For me, it was producing music. Self-expression is invaluable to staying sane-- I suspect that much of the depression, anxiety, lack of identity that a lot of posters on /biz/ have is due to the lack of a creative outlet for self-expression. Seriously, you cannot just work/wageslave without ever expressing who you are as an individual, that sounds like a sick and meaningless existence

This isn't comprehensive, but I believe that these few actions will at least help a bit. And if you're wondering why I'm here... well I'm at fuckin work lol

>>7074582
Not OP but I have two ideas:

1. Create some company that acts as a filter of information. Since everyone is oversaturated with data these days, you could have a middle man acting as a filter. Ideally you market this as being the filter for good taste, so all the upper class young folks who compete with eachother for social status will follow it. While you start as a filter for good music, fashion, literature, vacation spots, movies, restaurants etc. (whatever works) you eventually build a big enough following that artists/businesses would be willing to pay to be featured. Eventually when you get even more money, you can start your own clothing line, record label, events, blahblah because your brand is now synonymous with good taste which upper class youth would be willing to buy into to differentiate themselves from plebs.

2. Offer high-end travel experiences based on the experience rather than destination. Ie name a package "Alexander The Great" charge a large amount of shekels and basically take a small group of folks (or even an individual family if you do some "gold" super expensive package) around the mediteranean, throwing in some local experience restaurants, walk a bit on the historical footsteps of alexander, see some monuments, blahblah and charge a shitload of money.

Rate my ideas /biz/.

>>7074757
You're every Jews dream goyim. Bravo. Why don't you suck my dick you it'll make you feel even more productive.

>>7074485
Might be a perfect time to dive into this https://www.actualized.org/life-purpose-course

Moving into Thriving vs Coping

>>7074823
>ya still here?

lol shut up faggot you don't own this board. Aren't you embarrassed about being caught lying so blatantly? What a dumb fag hahahahahaahhahaha

>i went to harvard but like I'm so depressed and like the corporate ladder isn't worth climbing maannnnnn
>columbia isn't an IVY DURRRRR

LOOOOOOL you are truly pathetic hahahahahahaahhahahahahahahaha

>>7074518
Tragic, not your fault nor hers. Lots of luck to you and her.

>>7074485
heh you know what anon? You can give up all that, dedicate yourself to a life of betterment and still get fucked / wind up homeless. Good luck though.

>>7074582
Crypto ICO, we'll need devs. But I'm in Cali though

>>7074860
>ry creative hobby to fill the void that removing gaming/browsing time waster websites will inevitably create. For me, it was producing music. Self-expression is invaluable to staying sane-- I suspect that much of the depression, anxiety, lack of identity that a lot of posters on /biz/ have is due to the lack of a creative outlet for self-expression. Seriously, you cannot just work/wageslave without ever expressing who you are as an individual, that sounds like a sick and meaningless existence
>This isn't comprehensive, but I believe that these few actions will at least help a bit. And if you're wondering why I'm here... well I'm at fuckin work lol

I start to get colds whenever I try cold showers

>>7074868
You went to Harvard and paid Jews hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think you’re the Jewish dream goy.

>>7074981
he didn't go to harvard though. OP has been caught larping. His constant posting in thread is laughably pathetic and sad.

>>7074860
Very good points. I need advice on something crucial though which has always been my problem. Since I was a kid I couldn't get excited about topics at school and would day dream constantly. Fast forward to today once I know I can understand something I lose interest, get bored, can't focus. If i get creative and imagine about all the things I can do/learn/program I get hyperexcited and lose focus again. This is a major point of failure, I'm trying to fix it.

>>7074904
>>7074904
Or if not a great start is simply to stop doing shit that wrecks your life and start doing stuff in small manageable steps that improves it. Looks like you've started doing that.

Diet, exercise and cutting out the bullshit that fuels negativity. Fuck news, negative 4chan boards, porn, etc. Fuel your mind with positive empowering stuff as a replacement. READ for perspective and insights you can apply. The willpower instinct, 7 habits of highly effective people, psycho cybernetics are all great books with invaluable content you can pick up for a couple $.

Jordan petersons videos on youtube and Elliot hulses older stuff are a good place to start too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eYSEDvtf4s

>>7074863
I like both ideas. But large starting capital is needed like $200-300k for 3-6 months of continuous promotion via social media to get it started.

I'd rather do something with low capital like 20-50k tops with huge returns. ICO or cryptocurrency related

>>7069581
Parents are the same way want me too move out but don't want me to quit my job and and be a full time trader. Fuck boomer parents are lost.

>>7074134
>>7074134
>>7074485

>>7075072
>>7075072

>>7074518
Current gf is a little on the psycho side and thank you for reminding me of why I was reticent to get into a relationship with her.
When things are going well its easy to get complacent and start considering marriage and shit, but posts like yours remind me of exactly why its not a brilliant idea. I should probably break up with her and look for someone a little more rational. (Implying women can be rational).

Oh well, the sex is still 11/10.
Good luck in the trials to come, anon. You deserve only the best.

>>7074863
1. Not a bad idea but sounds like something news sites are already doing. If not then i am sure there is some russian/chinese team making an ico for an AI system that does exactly this.

2. Alternative take on the travel industry.... has potential. Will require a lot of work to get running though. The richer your target market, the more BS you need to handle

>>7074934
Better to die fighting to live as a king than live as a slave. This is what i tell all my friends who chose to be a soulless robot. I woke up, not going back

>>7074909
I broke him didn't I? That's the difference between a thoroughbred Harvard grad and a nobody. It's effortless for me to embarrass someone I don't like. Useless skills you learn while slaving away in a highly charged corporate environment.

>>7075076
>starting capital
>continuous promotion via social media
>hurr durr low capital like 50k tops man huge returns fuck the corporate ladder mannnnnnnn

lol shut up you dumb larper. You don't know anything about business, and you didn't know that Columbia was an Ivy league. Omg this is amazing, it's like watching a faggot caught lying continuing to lie.

>>7071996
Well put, I don't consider being a wage cuck anymore, im in a office setting where most days im here, investing in Crypto and direct my team to finish our projects. How ever I know this wont last for ever, so hoping for a super moon mission in Crypto, this way I can do my own small side business in the next 3-4 years

>>7073556
What happened to your gf?

>>7075167
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

No I'm literally sitting here laughing my ass off at you. You are so sad, posturing yourself as someone you clearly aren't in this thread. It's really pathetic, but by all means, continue. This is very entertaining to me.

Your ideas are fucking stupid to anyone who isn't a dumbass teenager. Keep going, this is funny.

>>7070959
> fucked a cup against the wall.

wat

>>7074981
Read my post carefully. When I was young I got brainwashed into believing there's only one path: study hard go in Ivy get in corporate wear suit and slave away till you make VP.

Harvard degree now for me is sometimes useful to meet new vendors and establish credibility, most of the time is embarrassing because when you say you're Harvard grad people expect you to be a billionaire automatically.

>>7074976
I have an idea for an AR phone app but devs are impossible to find. They are living in the gold rush of this century and have ridiculous expectations. Like how do startups even lift off?

>>7072997
Boredom is worse than cancer. Boredom while on the job is even worse than that.

I interned and basically had nothing to do for 6 months. Made realize I would hate my life. Looking into other options now. Honestly would rather do physical labor than office cuckery and that's most likely what I'll do. At least that way I don't really need to keep up appearances and maintain retarded business relationships with people I fucking despise. Just work, get paid and fuck off.

Only reason I haven't gotten a job yet is because its cold outside and I've made bank with crypto, so I don't really need to rush. Might get a Fedex type job, I have a class B license.

>>7074302
lol yup im 34 never married no kids, i was feeling like i missed out on something a few years back, like i f up for not taking the chance and following the normies, but holy fuck i see the horror stories of what men go trough I consider myself lucky

>>7075210
still with her, but shes on her last semester of school, and possibly getting a job this week so im not gonna see her as often. she was staying with me for days at a time in my last place; as of right now i dont have a bed big enough for both of us (need to rearrange the rooms). also, not too excited about fucking her in a house that my mother is occupying

>>7074582
Cobourg here,same boat. I have money, just no business idea. Where do you go to buy something established???

>>7075128
Can confirm, psycho chicks are amazing in bed. My one and only psychotic gf love anal sex and I miss her dearly, and except for the times she tried to kill me with scissors

>>7075251
But you didn't go to an Ivy, and no one brainwashed you. Your parents are probably loser peon wage cucks which is why you feel the need to come here and lie. The more you write, the more obvious it becomes that you're just a loser looking for attention.

>because when you say you're Harvard grad people expect you to be a billionaire automatically.

Literally no one thinks that except low class losers, which is who you are which is why you think that. Omg, this is gold.

>>7075282
yesss this i was going to quit my job before i found Crypto, getting paid a good amount but the boredom was destroying me mentally, now I see coming to the office for my benefit

>>7068683
>Wanted to be an investigator/detective
>Become cop
>Get literally (and I use literally literally) abused physically and mentally in academy
>13 hour days 5 days a week but you only get paid for 8
>Have to get up at 3am to run 5+ miles every morning on top of rocks
>Made to do push ups and planks in broken glass and condoms on the side of the road while traffic whizzes by while being yelled at
>Only given a 10 minute meal break during these days, if that. No time to sleep or eat properly to recover
>Foot, back, and elbow joint pain progressively gets worse
>Keep telling myself it'll be okay once I'm out and I'm an actual officer
>Finally academy is over, now onto FTO
>3-5 hours overtime (on top of an already 10 hour shift of hell) every day
>Brain can't even faction anymore, I can't hear people when they talk to me, can't remember what someone just said 5 seconds ago, plantar fasciitis never heals, still dealing with foot pain some 2 years later
>Finally done with FTO, guess it will get better right?
>Still a whipped dog. No matter how hard we work there's always 10 more calls holding
>Have to deal with the most disgusting, smelly, violent people you can't imagine
>Been punched in the face, spit on, bled on, etc
>No matter what we do we're still fuck ups in the eyes of the public
>Here's the kicker: all for 50k a year, fucking pleb pay, forever.

Back is killing me rn from wearing 40lbs of shit and being stuck in a car packed full of equipment where I can barely move all day. Please gains gods, bless me ;-;

>>7073452
Can relate, however if the gains train stops we're both fucked friendo.

>>7075139
Regarding 1. I intended to rather have partners such as someone who is an expert on music, an expert on fashion etc. building our brand. I'm not sure an AI could offer the same critical outlook or establish a certain "brand feeling". If you have someone who knows his stuff in that subset, we can start building a brand that would say (without outright actually saying it of course) we're better than plebs and by buying into this you'll get both quality as well as social status. So the company would start as a filter through human critics, eventually once popular enough you know business would start paying to be featured, then when you get even more money you start shelling out your own stuff through your brand name, be it records/music, events, clothing articles....I have seen similar for example in Kitsune and Hed Kandi, but I would aim for an even bigger scale.

>>7075351
yeah but black lives matter :^)

>>7075351
Shit man as much as the commie fucks love to bash on cops/soldiers, I really respect you guys. I can barely tolerate talking to normal rational people and you guys have to deal with fucking apes and subhumans on a daily basis, get paid peanuts for it, and everyone, literally everyone, is looking at you with suspicious eyes, waiting for you to fuck up so that they can burn you at the stake.

Good luck, senpai. You have an anon's respect.

>>7075351
I appreciate what you do copbro

Smart people get that you have to deal with the dregs of society constantly. We know its stressful.

But seriously stop being a dick, your all fucking dicks and dogs of the state and thats why white working class americans who are just trying to make it on a 9-5 don't like having to deal with your powertripping.

but seriously thanks for dealing with the criminals, drug addicts, methheads and niggers. Just leave the rest of us alone. <3

>>7070604
I believe it.

>be carpenter
>26 y/o
>my back is fucked, about 3 hours into working it aches for the rest of the day
>my knees are on the way out
>the more i produce, the more im paid so i need to run around all day to make a decent wage
> ive been shot with a nail gun in the hand, got my middle finger crushed last year
>30 more years of this

>>7075128
If she seeks counseling, it can get better. Marriage counseling was the best thing we ever did. The worst thing we ever did was stopping...

>>7075407
Heck I'm fairly certain if you took like one of the smarter persons from /fa/, /mu/, /p/, /lit/...you would have enough to start getting it off ground. Of course the problem would be people staying committed, pulling into the same direction and not starting drama/remain fair when money started rolling in.

>>7075128
Also, after the last kid, the sex just fucking stopped. Can you imagine being married to someone you love dearly, sleeping next to them every night, and never getting laid for > 10 months?

It was over, regardless, at that point

>>7075377
Same here biz bros, I am new to Crypto started in June 2017, I could have quit my job by now if I just Held on to the Crypto I bought, Hoping to make a good amount in the next bull run, my main goal is to just work part time or start a small Crypto business. Working for yourself is a dam good feeling, your making yourself richer not someone else.

Just want to remind everyone that OP who claims to have gone to "muh harvard" didn't know Columbia was an Ivy League school.

This thread is pure larp. If you had the academic potential to get into Harvard you know what an Ivy league school is.

>>7068683

Its opposed as opposed to supposed.

Feel you though, tried the corporate ladder. Now i work as a directional driller for oil n gas companies. Also relief well drilling. Depending on the contracts ill land 250k-350k a year with 20% bonus of years earnings to offset half my tax. I pay almost 100k a year in tax which is more than most people will make in a year and now the gubbmint expects me to pay on my cryptos. Fucking lol.

Get into business or investing if that makes you happy. I enjoy drilling work as it is fucking hard, bitches get systematically bullied out so I dont have to hang around boot lickers and liars.

Do what makes you happy and money will come after.

>>7075489
>i shot myself in the hand with a nail gun

>>7070959
This beautiful

>>7070959
>and fucked a cup against the wall

uhhhh... you're gonna need to elaborate on this part here

>>7068683
what's the biz? Proof Of Weak Hands 4 ?

>>7075535
I don't think you'd need a fuckload of starting capital either. You could start with zero and just be active on social media until it starts going off ground (have done this before with a different project). Or if you want to fast-track it, I'd spend a few hundred maybe even a few thousand (if results were good) on some of the hot instagram sluts promoting it.

>>7075288
Don't get me wrong, my kids are my greatest accomplishment, and I can't imagine not being a father, it's incredible. I would've given anything to make our marriage work, but there wasn't much else I could do, once we passed a certain point. When it was good, it was amazing. Don't forego those things, just because you hear horror stories, but don't become complacent and naive enough to think a happy marriage happens by magic. It takes effort, and most often professional help

>>7075351
Oh and the best part, on top of all this shit we don't get to eat unless you sneak a lunch in somehow. And people will still bug you while you're busy or trying to eat asking stupid shit like directions. I'm somehow the authority of burger joints in my town ffs.

>>7071996
Not on $9MM. That's a family living comfortably at middle class level for a century.

>>7075554
>>7075505
Jesus, anon...
Am sorry for you, but this shit aint for me. 3/4 of the reasons why am with my current gf is that she's a qt pie and the sex is gorgeous. If this is gonna get complicated after marriage, might as well call it off and look for someone else.
Still, I will talk her into getting a therapy, maybe I can even sign up for one myself.

Good luck, anon.

Have a similar story.

>Degree in CS/EE etc
>Work for investment bank
>Work for hedgefunds later
>Decide to abort for a year
>Decide to buy a cheap house up north
>Realise I don't have to go back to wagecucking
>Start a business
>Work 2 days a week

We are a team of highly dedicated members hell bent on capturing the cryptocurrency scene. Be a part of it or miss out big time,,,

https://discord dot gg/TEADGGw

>>7072676
Will it comp your sushi though?


>Man purse

>it's italian!

>>7075662
I see, i think i found the one and i have been debating if i should stay with her. I did do some deep thinking and reflected exactly what you said, i will be happy with her as long as possible, and if it one days falls apart and she turns on me, f it at least I lived a good life with her. I am also going to hide at least half or one full BTC in cold storage, if i do take the plunge, just in case.

>>7073556
Abandon and don't look back. Mother is a shitblock who rode you for her survival, and should never see your children when you have them. I'm not joking shitcan her.

>>7068683
I just want to get crypto rich and drive through the city in a Rolls Royce Wraith in just a target singlet and cheap shorts and tongs blasting music and yelling stay poor to all the wagecucking.

>>7075574
I want to start some small biz, but idk what I would do. It would be great to just do something from home, but that's not very realistic.

>>7071290
People rag on military life but it really does set you up for life after a few short years
>enlisted 08-12
>aircraft repair tech after discharge
>been making 90k/yr since

>>7073556
Two most important words you MUST learn:

No Mom.

>>7075489
>not becoming the general and making money off wagecucks.

>>7074868
>You're every Jews dream goyim. Bravo.

I own the company and give good people good work. I'm happy, they're happy. This is something you'll never experience or understand because you clearly have no self-worth or reason for living. Stay sad...

>>7073953
>this was always the plan
Guess what?
You get to make a new plan. Starting right now. Your mother had a chance to make her plans and she did. She browbeat you in your childhood into feeling guilty if you didn't do things for her. I bet her favorite word was 'selfish' wasn't it?

She's mentally ill. You're mentally ill as a result and cannot think straight. You need to see a trauma-informed therapist so you can anchor yourself properly.

It's not your fault she cannot get work. Things in life change. A fire could have burned the complex down last year and you wouldn't even be there. Just walk away as soon as you can get off the lease (if you're on it already)!

>>7074354
>if i didnt move in, my mother would be literally homeless. its not a physical gun to my head, but it might as well be
The only one putting the metaphorical gun to your head at this point is yourself, and it's likely from how she raised you as a boy.

>>7075810
Best of luck, anon.
Treat her right, and get marital counseling, even if you don't think you need it. In fact, it'd be best to do it just before your marriage, so you have an idea what to expect from the relationship, and can get your feet wet with a counselor

> graduate college with liberal arts degree, literally only thing that interested me and kept my attention long enough to actually do my work
> cannot find decent job
> work as delivery driver for 1.5 year
> now work for shitty customer service, busiest store of my type in the nation/world, high stress and high volume
>work at least 3x as hard as the underperformers, make just $0.50 more per hour
> be told ill be made a lead and get a raise
> offered lead position with no raise, not even the normal $0.50 raise
> refuse out of principle
> stuck wagecucking

> invested over 8k into crypto
> gains less than $4k
> thinking of quitting and moving home
> 31 years old

fuck my job, fuck the managers, fuck the people who get away with slacking the fuck off

>>7076150
forgot one important part

> all personal dreams are dead, no motivation to do anything.

>>7076033
im the first born grandson in a large chinese family (though i'm only half). taking care of your elders is what you do, thats why she took care of her father despite hating every minute of it for 7 excruciating years.

i dont plan on being here forever, but i'm not going to abandon her. she knows i have plans outside this house/state, its only a matter of time until i'm gone. it would have taken a few years to save up enough to get my plans in the last place i lived, now its just going to take longer.

>>7075128
There's a relationship between how great/poor the sex is versus how unstable/stable a woman is.
Seriously.
If she's crazy in bed, chances are she's not stable.

>>7075666
Man if you're operator as fuck clearancejobs.com always has interesting listings in the private security sector... talking full bennies, 3 months vacation and 100k+.
If you're willing to relocate that is, and assuming your department maintains your clearances.

>>7075554
>Can you imagine being married to someone you love dearly, sleeping next to them every night, and never getting laid for > 10 months?
That has to be painful. Almost as painful as making it to full Wizardhood.

C'est la Vie!

>>7076078
thanks biz bro, yea we are working towards a good future, and hoping my Crypto holding blow up so we can move in

>>7068683
Was under the impression that going to an Ivy League school was like writing your own meal ticket. The more you know.

>>7069581
Why would you quit your job if you knew you couldn't support your independence with your art?

I mean, I feel for you man, but you clearly deserve everything that's happening to you.

>>7074860
Good for you man, self-improvement is its own reward

>>7075351
Hang in there blue bro

>>7076279
Can confirm.
My ex had sexual abuse in her past (which was part of the anxiety/ depression, and reliving it was apparently so terrifying, that it was the reason she refused professional help) and got really into being a sub. Gotta admit, being a dom, and doing all the kinky shit was great, but she also had this weird disconnect between love and sex.

You could never really "make love" with her, it was always just /wefuckin'/ and that wasn't that much of a problem at the time, but now I realize how much I wanted that, and how strange it was that love and sex were two completely unrelated concepts to her.

>>7075072
>negative 4chan boards
The pro play is to understand why you deem those boards to be negative in the first place. This allows you to understand yourself a bit better, provides a key to the big picture.

>>7076150
>31

Time to just kill yourself m8.

>>7069581
me except parents are starting an IT business. How the fuck do we fuck as adults you cant just bring them round to your childhood room anymore.

>>7076150
Good luck Anon, Crypto is the way to goo, its just getting started. I have been hearing all the normies talking about it at the bars I go too, this financial manager chick was asking me, and saying she thinks ripple is great lol holy fuck we will make bag holders of them all

>>7076387
>only her cameltoe is drenched

oWo

>>7075657
I run my own small biz and our Instagram is slow moving unless we pay for promotion. That slut you want to help you? If she's worth any salt and have great subs, chances are she's a great promoter and she will charge $$$. Stop dreaming.

>>7076461
o yea you see that one of my very fav pictures out there Yummmm

>>7076411
Women separate love and getting fucked more than we do because getting impregnated by top genes and being cared for afterwards often couldn't come from one guy.

>>7068683
Cant even hate you for trying to be your on person anon best of luck

>>7068683
>graduate college in 2008
>move back home with parents, figure I can land some entry level job in the city
>nope, go to job fair
>75% of attendees are 40-50yo guys with 20-30 years experience who got downsized and are dying for any job
>settle for retail, working at liquor store
>lift cases all day every day, take loads of shit from everyone, managers love being big fish in very small ponds
>gradually move up, get interested in wine + spirits
>get job as buyer of other store
>store becomes chain, buyer of all stores
>still lifting fucking boxes all day though, develop bad back
>become kind of a go-to guy for wine within 50mi radius
>employer refuses to pay me more as "if he did I'd be making more than general mgr"
>start wine + spirits consulting co working with restaurants/retail to get good
>basically now get paid to drink and talk about it

It was shit, now it's better but still not ideal... hence crypto. Getting into traveling to wine regions, would like to start an import/distribution biz soon.

>>7076521
exactly.

all the betacucks on this board wont understand that.

the most efficient mating strategy for men is to spread their seed to as many women as possible; for women it's to get impregnated by the top genes and have a betacuck raise the kid without finding out

truth hurts.

>>7071917
>>7072352
>>7074485
>>7074860
>>7075043
>>7074340
>>7068683

So many things I can relate to

>>7076693
Tell your story faggot.

I've fucked over 50 girls in my life and I haven't found much of a correlation between crazy and good sex. Normal girls take like a few weeks to a month to warm up but they'll eventually let you do anything you want and fuck back just as hard. Best sex I ever had was with a normal girl.

Crazy girls will give you the best one night sex though. Like, they're all into it and stuff after knowing them for like an hour. That is fun

>>7071760
>Move back to home city, get super low paying job at museum but end up getting fired (not performance related)

it might as well be peformance related theway the work history game works. You either worked 3 years minimum in a company and "loved" it, or you remove it completely and have a giant gap.

>>7068683
>"partner track" as supposed to the "slave track"
>Harvard grad
>Doesn't know the difference between Suppose and Oppose

Nice one pal.

>>7068683
So what the fuck do you even do for 16 hours a day? Look for the best restaurant to lend money to for their payroll? I mean really, what the fuck could you guys possibly be doing for 100 hours a week that's actually productive and not just gay ass busy work?

>>7069581
Did you think no rent would come without a downside? Living with parents is a horrible nightmare. They never realise that you're not 16 anymore and you don't need their constant advice and involvement wit everything

>join the military and make the mistake of specializing in weapon systems operation and maintenance
>why did I think there would be a market for those skills post-military
I have the most unprofitable set of skills. And having a clearance isn't helping. Currently doing part time work training spec ops cool guys about detecting physical surveillance, love the job but I can't even make 500/month rent

Every day I wake up in despair

>>7076495
>she will charge $$$.
that's exactly what i said i'd spend on. re-read.

I'm a late ass student in my final year of graphic design course at 25. Wage slavery is my deepest fear. Crypto is my only hope.

>>7076756
Reminds me of one of my favorite /fit/ pastas

>>7076756
Not my experience. Current gf is super emotional and borderline crazy, best sex I can possibly imagine. She loves all the same shit as me. Previous girlfriend was more normal, she once said she didn't want to lick my balls because it was "degrading". Don't know how I put up with that retarded attitude towards sex.

>>7068683
>I was brainwashed
Interesting take. Its bullshit of course. But interesting. Obviously no one brainwashed you and your "wage slavery" (yawn) is as permanent as your decision making. Corporate life is typically cozy asf if you do it right. Yes there is the occasional work hard make it look good but it doesn't have to be that bad if you are actually smart/clever and have the right social skills for the occasion. You'll be living in the top 10% easy and likely the top 8-5% in no time. You'll also rarely have the chance to build a network as quality as one built in some sort of corp. career. Obviously you can do whatever the fuck you want though. No one has a gun to your head. Well, except maybe mommy and daddy who paid for Harvard.

>>7076713
>be the smart, kinda autistic kid
>shy af
>bullied in primary school
>Father died when I was 8
>never felt social validation growing up
>mostly online friends
>history is my passion
>study international law at uni
>big dreams and ambitions
>I'm gonna be an important diplomat with suit and tie
>graduate with top grades
>revelation at 21-22 yo
>why the fuck am I even doing this?
>very few true friends
>no gf
>is it even worth to become the asshole who climb the ladder backstabbing everyone?

I ran away from all friends and girls who were interested in me, truth is at my core there is something telling me they can't possibly like me because there is something wrong and I don't deserve it.
I started therapy to fix my being a social robot and an avoidant shit, it's kinda working.

I swear, crypto is like the first thing in years that made me feel something inside.

>>7076950
Of course its degrading. Shes a woman.

>>7077172
Not everyone is born knowing what they want to do. How many people are pulled in by the allure of wearing suit and tie?

>>7076869

lol. worth the read

>>7076950

hmmm...I know a lot of girls who don't like giving oral that much but still they do it every once in a while. Oh well. Hope you fuck this new girl great and get out before it's too late

>>7077223
Same here Anon, I have been looking for a very long time for something like Crypto, it came to free a lot of us, even if I lose it woke me up from this sort of internal depression and gave me hope. I am now smiling every day at the normies when i walk in to my office, I know deep inside I will make it, the rocket is just getting fueled and ready to blast off

>>7072676
this is gay as fuck LMAO what a fucking faggot

>>7071996
Money is irrelevant if you have enough, if you don't have enough, it begins to become a problem. Why do people clean toilets for a living? or work at the DMW, suck dick or call up random people to ask if they want to buy shit?
Because they need money for rent, food and if they have some children, they want them to be happy, by buying them shit.
How educated do you have to be, in order to believe that "having money is fucking meaningless if it is destroying your quality of life".

>>7074485
This was extremely unsettling to read because I see a carbon copy of myself in this.

I'm good looking, not dumb, charismatic enough that I've never felt uncomfortable in social situations but if there's one thing that summarizes me as a person the best is fucking gaming.

Been gaming since I was a child and continue to do so today, often into early hours. Getting up on a day off, planting my ass firmly behind my desk and gaming away the entire day is nothing for me. The worst part is I haven't been bothered by this one bit so far. I too finally picked up comp sci studies after military service (which was a hugely welcome change of pace for my otherwise mundane life before then), but then i discovered crypto and was utterly consumed by it to the point that I effectively flunked out of school. And again I was not particularily worried.

I'm becoming plenty fucking scared of my own apathy now. It also manifests in my overall emotional profile aswell, I believe. I often find myself not really giving much of a damn about he things and people around me. It's like some sort of disconnect. I CARE, but not to the extent a well adjusted person would, I think. I dunno.

I've increasingly begun to grow into a weird subdued hatred of myself with each passing day, while at the same time remaining generally content because I have had no real, pressing need to start to radically change anything.

I despise what I have become but I have barely even found it in me to get up and enact change. So I just game away without any future in sight to speak of. Is this somehow related to the societal malaise and nihilism taking root in our societies nowadays? Overstimulated youths growing up into desensitized adults? Fucking hell, I need to take my life into my own hands before I wake up in a 1 room flat one day, 40, minimum wage and childless...

>>7077223
Also forgot to say I started boxing last week.
I'm loving it even if I suck.
In 2018 I rediscovered the enthusiasm for life I lost in 2009.

>>7077474
Best of luck, friend.

>>7077560
remind me of this single mom i met last year, pretty little thing, dude took off to Mexico left her with 2 kids, one night we are hanging out kids at her moms house, she breaks down says she needs help with rent, says shell do anything, me feeling bad, but im all biz, she hints at something, unzip my pants she blows me, shot my load in her mouth and give her $200, thanks Anon your the best i know you wont tell anyone, feels good to help a friend out.

>>7075351
sorry cop bro.

also FUCK BLM

>>7077569

Just go out and make some mistakes. Find a somewhat decent girlfriend and get her pregnant as quickly as possible. You'll be up for the responsibility immediately and you'll be more happy and satisfied with your life than ever. Yes, it sounds stupid, scary, not what you want because you're self centered but trust me you'll feel so much better having a purpose.

>>7071290
overseas contracting for what, what do you do?

>>7076869
ded

>>7077823

>>7078277
m'fitizen

>>7077569
You and I are about the same and let me tell you my experiences. I personally found out that I gamed hardcore because it gave me instant gratification and joy as opposed to real live achievements. It made me feel good because I would achieve so much in my mmorpg game or would find satisfaction in my RTS campagin or FPS kd ratio.

I started gaming at the age of 7 and did so until 21 and I'm about to turn 22 now. I think that gaming from such a young age killed my desire for real world achievements and that void got replaced by what games offered me (faster and easier success). Because you're molded into it you don't realise until it's too late.

Hatred towards myself grew everyday and I hated to be me and that is because I knew deep down what I really wanted from life and myself. I too didn't feel the need to change until shit hit the fan recently and I realized that the window of opportunity is closing faster and faster with age.

I can be fully social, charismatic when I want to but I don't want to, simply because I know how fake people are and how much they deny the truth. I don't like how this society functions and how messed up and manipulated this world is. This makes me reckless towards some people and less empathetic.

Let's do this man, we must change or inevitably we will be miserable for ever.

Had a comfy field engineering job. No bosses just drive and travel around doing basic retarded shit. Felt a little two retarded after two years, also a bit isolating. I quit to learn programming. Failed out of those bootcamps, find webdev very stressfull. Dont know if I'll find a job in my old field.... Kinda panicking can't sleep at night...

>>7078470
If you have experience you can get back in, baka

>>7078470
wanted to get in to coding myself but not sure i was watching videos it looks like its too boring and take a lot of time to do, my idea of coding was much more adventurous

>>7077898
That's a shitty advice desu. It's true that family is everything and anybody who denies family's importance is deluded. However it could be too much to handle and you need to keep in mind that once you have a family it's very hard to improve yourself unless you have financial stability or indepence (no need for job). My take is to become the man you want to be before you start a family. If you can't love yourself you can't love others. If you make children while you're still working in a warehouse, it'll stay that way for ever or at the minimum a decade.

>>7078658
I agree with you Anon, I was going to say the same shitty advice, why do you think there are so many fuck ups in life, bad parenting. Now imagine OP trying to full blast in to it, working 2 jobs, stressed as fuck no skills, wife at home with kid, lonely begins fucking neighbor, or dude he meet on the internet, divorce follows, OP is turned in to a Wage Super Cuck Machine providing for his x wife, the kid and maybe even the new dude in her life. F no get financially stable, work out love yourself first and the rest will come, just get the f up and do someting

>>7078768
>>7078658

The dude obviously will never man up and do anything to motivate himself, which is why he's bitching about life on a norwegian tchotchke pamphlet site. He'll never get the motivation he needs left to his own devices. There's always going to be bad parents no matter what but 80-90 percent of guys out there would make excellent fathers and would use that is motivation for their lives but they don't realize it because they're scared.

>>7076685
>he most efficient mating strategy

This is false. There is an optimal number that should be achieved, and it's surely not "as many as possible".

If the seed is spread randomly, in secret, the offspring will become rivals and kill each other making it less likely your seed will continue.

The optimal strategy is to have more children with one highly desirable woman who can properly prepare the children to thrive and survive in life. Parents and siblings are biased toward genes they share.

As generations pass, your seed will become dominant as it gains network effects through this strategy. This is why maintaining the family unit and traditions uniting the clan are important.

Graduated 2013, always been life of the party, charismatic, better than average looking.

Got well paid job in 'fire safety' and literally hated my life, 2.5hr commute EACH WAY 9-5 for about £28k. ($35k?)

Got to the point one day when I realised I was fully depressed, following a path that I was only taking because I thought other people wanted me to do it. (really, other people don't give a shit, they're too preoccupied with their own shit.)

Got the courage to quit and travelled for a year around south america, drank a lot, fucked many sloots.

Had a few shitty sales jobs before realising I wanted to actually do something active and not be a wage slave. Now work as a in an active profession in shift work and enjoy my job, made around 25k crypto gains last 5 months, want to make more but we all will in 2018.

My advice is stop doing what you're doing for someone else. Life is short and noone actually gives a fuck about what you're doing so work towards something you're excited about. If you hate your job but it's good money then it's not good money it's actually a waste of time. Move to chile, become a surf instructor for 6 months, shake up your life like a soda can it's actually a lot easier than we think.

>>7077223
>I started therapy to fix my being a social robot

Congrats on this. You are doing well to look after yourself. There is zero shame in recognizing you have problems and want to improve.

Many on here externalize all their problems, you are internalizing which is THE winning strategy. I have a feeling you'll end up alright. Keep it up.

>>7076869
holy shit this is gold

Protip: don't get married boys, oh and it isn't true that "women will dump u if u don't want to marry her". Source: my gf doesnt gaf and we've been together for 5 years. Also if she were to piss me off about it, I would dump her. I would be fucking sad for a while for sure, but I would because there are so many examples of failed marriages that end in terrible ways, usually for the guys. Fuck that. This shit is non-negotiable. Avoid this trap boys.

>going to uni for less than 3kUSD/yr because subsidized uni, staying with family
>parents own ~800k USD in real estate in pretty stable regions as far as real estate goes
>only split it in half in inheritance because one sibling

>living renter's life
>paying an unhealthy amount for post-secondary
fools

>>7068683
please delete this and repost on your blog.
everybody knows you get cucked when you're a wagecuck. how did it take you so long to find out? do they let retards into Harvard now?

>>7077898
>Go ahead and make some mistakes

Some mistakes cost you years or worse decades.

>>7079420
>don't get married!!!!
Which is why 99.9% of the most successful men on the planet are married, while 4chan screechers tell you that it's a bad idea?

>>7079203
Good Anon I like that last part, I am slowly breaking free of the traps set up to enslave us to wage cuckery, debt etc, now breaking free thanks to Crypto. I am even enjoying my job more these days, but for sure I need to travel at least 2 times a year get away and see new things.

>>7068683

I feel your pain, bro. Successful ER doc here. $400k/yr. not worth the decades of sacrifice to get here. It's still just fucking wageslavery.

working on my own exit strategy. congrats to you for getting out.

>>7079489
dude now a days is not a good investment look at the divorce rate, your being to general and pointing out something that has no solid backing to it so what if the most successful men are married, that's what made them? jesus top autismo here

>>7079489
>Those guys made their monies because they were married!!!!!!! trus me!!!

Their wealth has nothing to do with that. Plus they can afford to lose money, can you?
So you think you are playing the same game as those guys? Do you have billions to your name? Get real

>>7068683
>tfw you want to be a biochemistry scientist

uhhhh, so does any of this apply to me or can I keep pursuing my dream of curing diseases?

>>7076215
you did liberal arts dude
you deserve all you got

>>7075479
In my first-hand experience, and I'm. Ery critical of my coworkers, being a strict constitutionalist, is that about 10% of cops are dicks. Depending on the department (smaller towns have a higher percentage of this) about 15-30% are overzealous, which means they take their job way too seriously (this may benefit you when you think your bullshit fender bender or stolen lawn gnome is a serious issue and want it handled accordingly, or it may hurt you when you get arrested just for being drunk and loud). The rest, which is the majority, are normal people. You probably just drive like shit.

It's funny how most people when I bring up that I'm a cop ask me "how come I got a ticket for this" or "would you give me a ticket if this?" If you're only contact with police is traffic stops you're lucky, and probably a good citizen. That's like 5% of what we do, though bored small town cops do more traffic bullshit. The rest is dealing with and trying to contain absolute fucking chaos being done by animalistic pieces of human garbage you don't want anywhere near you or your loved ones. Seriously, do a ride along in a big city with actual crime and you'll love cops.

>>7078543
stay poor faggot
if you don't learn programming hope whatever you do gets automated next so you can be replaced by a computer

>>7079428
> not being paid by a sponsor to study in uni
kys

>>7080031
Cops are mostly awesome

Too bad they just can't execute the trash they come in contact with

>>7080116
he thinks programming won't get automated

>>7080031
>you'll love cops.
I already said I did.
I've never been pulled over.
I've just been harassed for no reason many times.

>being a strict constitutionalist
Same
<3

what's up with this outrageous large quantity of loser faggots in /biz/ ?
why so many people making stupid retarded career choices and then complaining? didn't you parents tell you what gives money and what doesn't?

>>7080173
not in my lifetime
anyways I am collaborating towards automating it so fuck everyone who tries to enter this field after me

>>7080116
welp never said i gave up now did I, i am taking a class on it soon if I like it then i will get in too it

>>7076820
Ever considered private military/mercenary work?

>Degree in pharmaceutical science
>Decided I wanted a break from 'thinking' work so became a builder after a year of neet life post-uni
>Worked for a few years and travelled around a bit working in New York, Holland and London
>Quit job last year to get back into academic work
>Oh fuck it's actually hard to get a job
>After 4 months had to go back to building
>Work away from home 12-14 hour days
>Hand dig holes all day and install street lighting columns
>So tired at the weekend I struggle to go out. Just sleeping and drinking and flying home every month to see GF
>Quit job in November for family reasons
>Remember I was gonna buy BTC in 2012 for $7
>Buy in late December
>Hope I fucking make it

>>7080318
He's never heard of exponential growth. Also so edgy

>>7080138
no

>>7068683
>Harvard graduate
>every single minutes
>they're lives
>as supposed to
>a bragging rights
>that have zero relationship

>Harvard graduate
As what, a football scholarship recipient? Or a black person?

Jesus christ, dude.

>>7068683
Wake up at 06:00 go to work got home at 18:00.

>>7077597
How is boxing when you first start out? I'm /fit/ for an 18 year old but with no martial arts training so not sure how welcoming an environment it is when you start.

>A thread that's not bitcoin shit
Am....am I on the old /biz/?

good thread biz bros, almost off work hehe going home in a few mins

>>7079518
I did my prereqs and took the MCAT twice. So glad I decided against it.

I'm still a wageslave, though.

>>7075690
What? What the fuck as you doing to fuck up $9MM? Sticking it in a checking account and just spending away? Why are you on biz?

>>7068683
Well, at least you realized the sad truth 8 years into it.

It took 20 to me.

>>7080498
Sorry at Harvard and later my corporate job we got assistants that rewrite everything for us. Things you don't now about the perks upper echelon life. I got paid for my ideas.

Not a nigger when I was attending there were very few minorities. I got in via hard work and a bit of luck.

It doesn't matter anymore, Harvard lost its cache.

>>7080827
You should be making great money yeah? Is it a tough job? Or just bullshitting all day with your clients?

>>7080193
If you're so great why are you wasting time lurking in an Indonesian papier-mâché forum?

Go be with your important friends faggot.

I actually REALLY like my job, I'm a cable guy for an internet/cableprovider. Here are the perks:

>company truck
They supplied me with a 2017 Dodge minivan that I get to park at my home all the time. They pay for gas and all that, meaning that I don't need to own a car to commute back and forth to work. As soon as I leave my house and sit in the truck, I am ''at work''. Though I can never take it out whenever I'm not working otherwise I'd get fired
>$30/h CDN. With overtime I make about 70k a year. Customer also regulary tip me. I make $20 tip each week
>I see my boss once a month or so
>I get to work outside and at customer's places
>I get to drive around the city listening to loud music
>I get to meet all kind of interesting people and qts. This literally cured my long-lasting autismo
>I am so good at my job that out of 8 hours, probably 3 of those are just time wasted (browsing/reading in my truck)
>free company cell phone with 10gb monthly data
>work schedule is from noon to 8pm, so can stay up late and still get plenty of sleep
>can take time off whenever I want. last winter I took a month off to travel

>be me working in corporate office
>hate every minute of it
>every day count down the hours until I go home and get high
>Get laid off
>get a job at starbucks
>"Wow this is most fun job I've ever had. I love it. Pay sucks though."
>Get married and have children.
>uh oh, bills
>Go back to the corporate world, but this time it's different.
>Find out I actually enjoy it because it's not for me anymore. It's to support my family. Take great satisfaction in that.

I will gladly wagecuck for my family. Reminds me of The Office quote.

Jim: Stanley. Just played Dunder Ball with Toby. What about you, you got any games?
Stanley: Yeah, I got a game. It's called "work hard so my kids can go to college."

>>7068683
>I'm doing my own small biz
Nice, OP. We need more of this back in /biz/, so sick of this shitcoin nonsense that has been flooding it the past year. Bring back the glory days of /biz/

>>7081145
I just watched this ep like twenty minutes ago. Fuck man I want this feel...my wife miscarried last month though...

>>7071760
Working on wall street sounds like shit

>work 100+ hours a week
>everyone is hyper competitive
>most guys are bald by 30
>could make more money just by trading on your own using the skills and knowledge gained

>>7069581
Oh, it can get bad when you finally move out too.

>Be me, an IT Operations Analyst for a hospital
>Have girlfriend who lets her family run all over her
>Tell her I have to work the day we go out
>Try to get back on time, but she takes forever and we get back kinda late
>I have to be at work in 15 minutes
>Her niece was with us so she had to drop her off
>Get to my gf's mom's house
>Her mom is old and disabled so she gets lonely and likes to talk
>She talks for a good 20 or so minutes
>Gf finally comes out and I rush to drop her off
>Apparently one of our major systems went down and my boss tries to call me because it was causing major shit for the hospital
>I didn't notice my phone was ringing because I was rushing
>He calls my mom's house instead because I had her as an emergency contact
>Finally get to the data center
>Get a text message lecture from my mom about "my priorities"
>I don't even fucking live with her

You are never truly an adult to your parents. Also, fuck women.

>>7073452
If you think it wasn't luck, you're an absolute moron.

>>7068683
put on 30 fucking kilos at my fuvking desk job. smoking and drinkimg everyday to deal with.stress.and still blow all my paycheck on pokies.

just had a kid born.

not going to make it

>>7074134
Your dad "secretly" hates you because you turned out to be a bitch

>>7081504
NO COINER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>7074556
They're normal. You're the weirdo who can't do a job and have an enjoyable time with friends/coworkers at the same time. You let 4chan meld your mind.

>>7081695
At least you got some crypto right? RIGHT??

>>7081778
>job

I think I know whose brain is melded

>>7081247
>could make more money just by trading on your own using the skills and knowledge gained

Except the risk is greater. If you fuck up or the market crashes, which it inevitably will again, you might loose your job. If you fuck up with your own money you might end up bankrupt.

>>7081906
Also, if you were making $1,000,000 a year trading at a firm, you have to realise that your making the company a lot more money than that. To make those significant sums for the company would require investments much higher than a full years wage. You would constantly be putting your own net worth on the line.

I'm sure there is also a significant advantage to traders within large firms, they would have access to a lot more information than a sole trader would.

>>7081906
Lol afraid of bankruptcy

Oh no ! I cant sit on a company board for 5years!

Fuck that, people recover from bankruptcy all the time

>>7072010
>>7072388
>>7072571
ITT anons are buying literal bags

>>7071996
>You can live a perfectly happy and relatively wealthy life on $100k/year.

can live a perfectly short life where I fucking kill myself if I have to work past the end of this year.

If I don't make it with crypto I'd rather fucking die, and I'm making 65k/year as a software dev. I fucking hate this routine shit.

>>7073556
>my family apartment

holy fucking shit hahaha how poor is your family jesus christ

>>7068683
Congrats man! Everyone has thier path, mine almost opposite. Drop out high school, become ski bum, drugs abd alcohol years on end, cooking, going nowhere. 10 yrs ago get life together, still ski as much as possible, own business, good money, kids, wife, Crypto. Life is good anon! Congratulations!

wagecucking and living with my parents

they hate my existence, and i hate their's

my dad literally makes noise every second of everyday and wont shut the fuck up. My mom ignores me 95% of the time.

I'm hoping the coins will at least help supplement me to move into an apartment in another state... I might not even go to their funerals when they pass. And I literally don't care if they go to mine if I die first.

God damn is this thread depressing

When I graduated in 2013 from a state school with a degree in underwater basket weaving I made literal minimum wage, around 28k. When I asked for a raise, the director told me "how could you ask for another 5k? Your boss makes 35k and he's been here for 10 years." I had a fucking twilight zone moment where I felt like I was dissociating from my body and didn't come back the next day. A fucking dude can slave for a decade and only make 35k? That was such a painful reality check for me.

Fast forward 5 years and I'm making 95k a year in devops and doing sys admin shit for a startup that's about to be bought out. I have low six figure gains in crypto as well, I thought I'd be happier making more than bottom of the fucking barrel minimum wage. But the only thing that's changed is now I'm not struggling just to stay afloat and keep the lights on. The trade off is I'm fucking addicted to ADHD medication, my health is declining, I'm addicted to porn, and I drink nightly to forget how meaningless it is to do the same routine every single day. It's so painfully obvious that this isn't going to bring me any closer to self-actualization or "happiness". I'm 26 now.

Today at work I think I just had a mental breakdown inside as I thought of how fucking pointless these walls of code that I'm writing/fixing are. Nobody will remember me for this bullshit. Nobody gives a fuck that I had to claw my way out of depression to get this job, to write this shitty useless code, and nobody is going to remember me for the hours I spend helping out my coworkers, making sure shit runs smoothly for our developers and engineers.

I want out

>>7079420
Getting married is one of the best things you can do in business. Stop marrying low-class women and it's not a problem.

>>7082260
lmao

>>7082713
Damn man what the fuck
Like you're working and the housing market is fucked why would they be annoyed

>>7081340
lol stupid boomer bosses resort to finding emergency contacts rather than fix a problem.

>>7082484

65k is good man.

>be me @ 17
>go to college, get Foriegn Language International Economics degree
>..its basically spanish + econ
> work typical restraunt job
> graduate with 3.1
> MFW its 2006, going on 2007
> normie business degree ppl have been getting since the 80s just fucking broke
> no one can fix
> no one wants to hire a general business grad.
> get job as 'financial advisor'
> i think this means im handed accounts to monitor
> NOPE. you are a salesman you asshole
> you call ppl and beg for money
> I nope the fuck out after 2 months. can't stand this shit.
> only guys that make it in this shit steal grandma's money
> take granny's money and put it into accounts that yield most fees.
> fuck the customer
> I nope the fuck out
> get job at Lowes
> hardware
> bitchy red head babyboomer boss has certain policies
> if a customer is in 15 feet, we go bother the asshole.
> "how can i help you"
> i'm in hardware. assholes who want hardware know what they want.
> giant hairy asshole goes digg'n in my screw drawer one day.
> I start to walk over
> body language of hairy asshole is a clear "fuck off"
> i fuck off
> short ugly-fat saggy titted red haired boss comes over
> chews me the fuck out
> "do you know what body language is. if you don't you are a a stupid cunt"
> i get fired
> go back to college restraunt pizza shack
> at least there is some asshole with a law degree on the pizza line with me
> i hate life as a pizza bitch at $7.25
> go live daddy
> daddy is an asshole, so go live with mommy
> i run a register at pizza place
> degree gets me a dollar raise and now i do the nights accounting and take money to bank.
> still shittpay
> 2010 get fired from pizza job cuz i cuss at several regular customers multiple times for being cheap bastards
> i fuck up their food on purpose
> owner gets tired of my shit
> puts of firing me for literally months (ppl like me)
> i find backdated paperwork when looking for account shit
..continued

>>7069581
I’m in a somewhat similar situation

>Be me
>20 year old, graduated trade school college with associates in welding
>got four years of welding and fabrication under my belt b/c went to trade school during high school in the afternoon.
> I’ve been home for over seven months now, my father (as awesome as he is) doesn’t want me to get even a part time job while I try to get my license or land a job with a company I can make a career out of.
>Two months after I graduated, Passed driver’s test, got license
>Feelsgoodman.png
>Got into car accident, everyone is fine, but now my mom has no car and I never got one
>StuckInThisGoddamnHouse.Fuck
>No car for ages, couldn’t actually use my license and Mom stuck with $40 a day rent-a-car I can’t drive b/c insurance
>I finally got a (crappy car that was from a auction, seller didn’t mention that) car, mom ends up constantly driving it
>Car didn’t have a driveshaft (it’s a 4x4, so just two wheels were working fully)
>Fixed that shit, mom didn’t want me driving in snow without it working
> tfw still never actually drive it anywhere b/c mom with her shit ideas that never benefit anyone and rarely herself in the long run won’t allow me to drive without my dad helping me “practice” in empty lot
>Dad works a lot, both of us sick of this shit
>Still don’t get to drive
>Car has a issue, it’s now been out of service for I think two months now and I’m still stuck in my house with my fucked up brother and irritating mother

I swear to god I really can’t deal with this shit for much longer, she doesn’t even want me walking to a nearby store ffs

>>7082993
low-class, high class. I'd wager the divorce rate is higher the more succesful you are. You do you, I don't mind

>>7073432
xby my nigga

>>7083127
> wtf is this
> i rage
> they just fire me
> jobless drunk for 9 months
> I decide to go back to school and get degree worth a damn
> ask all successful friends whut they do
> all them mofos are doing tech shit
> i plan on getting 2 year degree
> find out working nights at UPS will pay a few grand in school money
> i'm the bitch loading boxes onto semis now at the UPS hub
> do two years in hometown and save money
> move to DaVille where the UPS worldport will pay for all your school
> i say fuckit and get Engineering Degree
> take first job i'm handed, need the dough
> mfw i draw the touchscreens that you fuckers see at walmart, on coke machines, and ticket booths.
> i automate stuff and put wagecucks out of work
>make $65k
> like i said, $65k a year is pretty good

>>7082084
What is high risk vs low risk?
I'll give you 1million every year for the next 10 years with potential for higher bonuses + you can invest your money wherever you like on top of this.

Vs.

You invest your life savings of 10 million to potentially make 10x your already ridiculous net worth. You have no bonuses and constantly stress because if the market crashes you might loose your house. You also don't have easy access to big firms inside knowledge and if a crash does happen you won't have the government or large banks backing you up, you'll just be left to deal with your own mess.

>>7082973
take up art or some music in your free time.

>>7074471
This. Wasn't comfy watching mom die for 6 months though. I want to kill myself every other week.

>>7077223
many of these goes for me as well. I think many people here relate

>dad becomes insane violent psycho when we move to another part of the country when i was 10
>they have a violent messy divorce, i remember coming home from school and he was throwing flower vases into the wall
>later on he tried to rape my mother but she hit him over the head with something
>she didnt tell me until years later
>i get beaten and manipulated by him
>give up on hanging out with friends, sports and everything else
>just play games and become fat
>life stabilizes somewhat just before equivalent of high school, live with kind mom and cut all contact with father. I become fit and attractive to girls and school is going well again and im eventually gonna start studying economics and move in together with other students at uni

>i get testicular torsion and have to get surgery to fix it so i dont loose my balls
>they cut them up and sew the inner ball to the "wall" of the sack.
>the pain makes me unable to attend high school so i sit at home for an entire year, become depressed and morbidly obese.
>no gf, no friends beside some people i play online with
>attend high school with a focus on becoming a zookeeper, but the school sucked major balls and there were no job opportunities whatsoever after graduating, feel massive regret over wasting 3 years studying this stuff
>end up wageslaving for years at mcdonalds at 21 years old.
>still live at home because i cant afford even a 1room rental because the housing market here is fucked.


I think of killing myself every day.

>>7079083
Correct. Have a (you) anon

>>7083384
Jesus bro. I'd send you a couple LTC if I was rich mate...

>>7083249
>i automate stuff and put wagecucks out of work

I read this thing all the time. Your job is getting automated too, btw. Why can't you be happy without shitting on others is beyond me. Oh well

>>7073452
You're fucking retarded if you told random grads about your crypto gains

>>7083529
NO chance. Cuz a chineese motherfucker can't install the software on site at the factory/store. ..which is why i went automation instead of software engineering.

> i should mention the downside
> i live in factory 3 months out of the year
> office rest of the year

>>7083585
Anything you can think of, "robots" can and will do in the near future. Your job doesnt seem particularly difficult to automate either. Deal with it, and good luck

>>7073556
Divorce from this insanity any way you can. Do you have a friend? Crash on their futon. Stephan molymeme would like a word with you. Your selfish mother is destroying you and you will never see anything for it. Please escape. I bet you're an okay guy.

>>7070959
Do as many away rotations as possible and don’t fuck them up. Then gtfo asap.

>>7083695

you have no idea what automation is ..do you.

>>7073953
Stop giving up and drop your mom you total faggot. Shit. She is ruining you and you know it. Are you a cuck?...

>>7083821

You have no idea what meta programming is ..do you.

>>7083384
work at a horse stable or something

>>7074134
>only business ideas that pop into my head are based on taking advantage of people's vanity and other vices to extract their money

Uh, you realize the best mark ups are beauty products and shit? That's not a bad idea. Go for it. Thinking of getting into the "vegan soap" and lotion game myself. These fags will buy anything.

>>7075639
He's a bong or Paddy with that talk.

He threw a cup against the wall and broke it, anon.

anyone have a job they like?

>>7083906
>meta programming

You don't know what a PLC is ..do you?

>>7084134
>anyone have a job they like?

only if u start a sucessfull small biz .

>>7084249
like a chicken wing joint? That can seem fun. I cant imaging finding consulting or some crap fun.

When you work for yourself it's way different though, no matter what you do as long as it pays okay.

23, going to college this year, working for 1000$ month in Europe.

Live at home, have to move out in October and have 20k€ saved up.

>tfw invested 1200$ in October
>tfw now have 100$, because I gries to trade and had no knowledge of market
>tfw if I just hold I'd have 20k€ already

Welp, at least I learned a lot for the next run, but god does it suck at job thinking about what I missed and how much I fucked up.

However, I'm prepared for the next bull run and won't fuck it up.

I work 6 months out of the year and use the company warehouse as my shipping address. When I actually work 90 percent of the time I'm trading crypto on my laptop while doing spreadsheets that a blind gorilla could do. I use it mainly for health benefits. I stay stealth with the money I have and if/when people ask how I afford my few luxuries I just say obnoxious things like I sell arms to the Saudis or crack in the projects. I pay my mortgage and car the normal way to stay low radar. The other 6 months out of the year I write under a pen name. Only maybe 6 people know I don't work all year.

Stay stealth.

>>7072676
looks like shit bruh

>>7084315
Some people do. Depends on the type of person you are. My friend started a business that was all about geolocation using various types of technology and automated plate reading. He spent 14+ hours every day just about working on programing, or server maintenance, or just general management of his employees. But he loved it. Told me the only reason he sold the company was because it was getting to a point where things were running smoothly so he didn't have as much to do anymore. Me personally, I hate technology that in depth and don't care for people managing.

>>7084621
The spread sheets help you invest? Explain for actual gorilla.

Man my job is pretty damn comfy IT/data related, currently living at home and have a few other forms of income so I'm making decent money but sex and dating life is non existent but the monotny of wage cuckoldry smacked me in the face today.
>Getting up at 6 am
>sitting in traffic for 2 hours a day
>same restaurants around work to eat at >gym after work get home and basically time for bed
and then weekends are over in the blink of an eye. Jesus I need to make It in crypto this year boys I can't do this shit for 30 more years.

>>7084621
Money talks, wealth whispers. Stay at it my friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aj9_8t1eQc
wagecuck anthem

>>7084846

No my job is to organize spreadsheets for a shipping company that is only seasonally busy. I take a voluntary furlough. Most people who do my same job are temps or middle aged women who claim unemployment most of the time.

>>7076635
good 4 u anon

>>7084915
I didn't need these feels anon, I have to be awake in like 7 hours.

>>7076266
>taking care of your elders is what you do

I'd rather kill my parents with my own hands than waste seven years of my life taking care of a senile degenerate. Fucking Asian cuck

graduating senior at a state school here, own small biz that i make ~30-35k a year with + crypto portfolio worth 60k should i become wagecuck yes or no

>>7068683
Luke

>>7085180
Not bad for still being in school. What do you do?

>>7080553
boxers are really nice guys

sign up for some classes at a gym, be a bro, and youll be glad you did

>>7083127
>65k is good man.

I don't disagree, and I make more than enough to drink my ass off, eat at good restaurants all the time, buy games, and still have a bunch of surplus money left over I accidentally save up (that's how I threw over 10 G's at crypto in November without thinking twice), but it's the routine of it all that makes me want to fucking end it. I hate routine. Time moves so fast it's scary but at the same time the monotony of familiarity makes me want to blow my fucking brains out.

I created a viral product with a friend. not really trying to put it out here b/c we're on 4chan and all, but we're on pace to do around 200k in revenue in the 1st year of it being created. it is a fad - but im making great money for a kid my age. also have other hustles in addition to it. prob knocking down 80-90k this year in total (including crypto gains).

>>7080553
>>7085218

This guy speaks the truth, muay thai feels the same. Be humble and don't act like you know your shit if you don't, and even if these guys rib you a bit they'll support you the whole way up.

>>7074134
I hope things get better for you mate.