/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7057247
It has Zero fees because it has zero people using it.

Same for NEO since its like ETH but interacting with dapps requires GAS. It will never have mainstream usage.

>>7057297
>It has Zero fees because it has zero people using it.
The absolute state of EOS fudders. Just goes to show how dumb you faggots are. It will have zero fees even if the entire world is using EOS.

>>7057297
Enjoy your DDoS cats and antiquated bags. Unfortunately for you; when EOS overtakes Ethereum you’ll be scratching your head, laughing and thinking “God, why are these people so retarded?”

EOS will kill Ethereum. Sorry for your luck.

um vitalik is cute af and the ladies love him, eth > eos sorry nigger

EOS is an erc20 token. We're not concerned at all XD

>>7057342
^ Excellent argument from an actual retard.

Here comes the EOS redpill:

1. Will be faster than Ethereum will ever be (millions of tx/s)
2. $1B capital injection program for EOS projects.
3. ONE BILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL INJECTION PROGRAM FOR EOS PROJECTS.
4. No transaction fees.
5. Can host Facebook on EOS.
6. EOS has partnered with big VC firms who will pick winning projects to fund.
7. All VC funded EOS projects won’t do ICOs, they will airdrop to EOS token holders. Think of owning EOS as owning NASDAQ and receiving free stock in everything listed on it.
8. EOS is the biggest thing since Bitcoin and will probably flip Bitcoin and Ethereum.
9. Elite developers are extremely excited about EOS. Much more so than any other platform. This includes Ethereum, Cardano, IOTA, Hashgraph, etc. EOS will crush them all.
10. $100 - $1000 by 2018/2019

Screen shot this. Seriously, *actually* screen shot this. It’s January 2018 and /biz/ is still very skeptical of EOS.

>>7057247
As a long term ETH Investor with over $100k invested, I wonder the same thing. It's just an extra hurdle to jump - not particularly practical for the average user.

>>7057381
> being so new you’re unaware of the eos testnet, and unaware that the erc20 tokens will freeze and migrate over to the mainnet eos blockchain in june

EOS doesn’t even work.

It’s centralised dogshit just like bitshares. Because it’s made by the same scammer

I'm all in to be quite honest 805 EOS

>>7057505
>EOS doesn’t even work.
And if it does work? Lets say launch a successful mainnet. Is ETH kill?

SAY IT. Say it u fucking ETHcuck... I want to hear you say it.

>>7057505
BitShares is a DAC you mongoloid.

EOS is decentralized and fast. Check out the testnet. Check out the community driven DPOS block producer selection process. All EOS information is transparent. You can compile a local testnet yourself. Nothing about EOS reeks of a scam at all. It did at first until we found out they were pumping over a billion back into carefully selected new EOS projects that are winners, which will in turn do airdrops, which in turn makes EOS holders receivers of dividends.

Wise up fuck face. You did bad in life.

EOS is the new king and everyone knows it. Some are too afraid to admit it, even to themselves.

>>7057505
>EOS doesn’t even work.

Steemit works.

>>7057247
the nerve of this thread, when EOS is still a token on the ETH blockchain

Call me when you get a blockchain of your own

>>7057543
I’ll wait and see, but ETH has already won this game. EOS is never going to go anywhere it just doesn’t have any kind of ecosystem.

You’re comparing something which already exists to something which only exists on paper.

>>7057937
Hey, retard.

Check the testnet & dubs.

OP is simply saying nobody wants to buy or use Ether every time they use an app or crypto built on it. He isn’t wrong. That’s one or the reasons EOS will crash Ethereum with no survivors.

>>7057247
How much eos do I need to accumulate to make it?

I never saw this shilled at 250MM market cap, but now at almost 9 BILLION I have to buy your bags? No thanks.

>>7057966
>it just doesn’t have any kind of ecosystem.

Except $1B of capital to inject into new EOS projects alongside Google co-founder Eric Schmidt’s TomorrowVentures.

A Google cofounder was in a block.one/EOS press release a few weeks ago.

At some point you’ll have to come to your senses. I understand you have a lot riding on Ethereum, but please wake up. Please change at least 50% of your position to EOS. At least 50%. Ideally 80%.

You have 2 options:

1. Join & win
2. Be a recipient of “told ya so”

>>7058096
Sounds centralised as fuck.

They won't be erc tokens once June hits lol

>>7058015
> implying something with a 9 billion market cap being talked about on 4chan will do anything

> 24/7 paid chainlink shills can’t even get link to stay in the top 100

> nobody cares what /biz/ thinks

> shilling eos on /biz/ is like shilling bitcoin on /biz/

> implying we need help selling

> implying we’d sell

You’re embarrassed and ashamed that you weren’t smart enough to know about EOS early.

You SHOULD be embarrassed and ashamed. We’re just trying to help you, and you spit in our genius faces? Fuck you.

Everyone's incentivized in their own manner. Its hard to weeed out the bullshit and the truth here unless you are really about DYOR and educate yourself. Regardless EOS & agoras are guaranteed A+ holds for 2018

>>7058114
Yes DPOS is centralized. That’s why Steem and BitShares have totally been hacked! R-right?

Wake the fuck up. EOS already won.

Wussa wussa wussa one billion dollar capital injection program affiliated with Google co-founder Eric Schmidt you fucking dolt?

>>7058096
Interesting you bring up Google. Google has billionS, plural, of play money to throw around and they can't even get any of their products right except for Google Maps. You can't buy your way into technical competence at the absolute higher levels, because beyond a certain point people are motivated by what they view as a higher purpose. Eos doesn't quite fit the open source make the world better ethos that motivates these type of people. It's Dan's creation and it will always be Dan's creation, just like BitShares and STEEM haven't moved beyond being his years after his departure.

Throw in defacto centralization from DPOS, block.one's shady marketing in NYC and China, ETH recycling from the crowdsale... You can win despite having a flawed product and you can win despite using shady tactics, but you can't combine both. Trump as the CEO of Eos could sell it to the world. Vitalik developing an Ethereum sold by block.one would have worked as well. But Dan + block.one simply isn't a good fit.

>>7057247
lmaos EOS has no network yet. There is nothing. It is still in development. They talk shit about ETH when EOS is a fucking ETH token HAHAHAHHAH
EOS has nothing right now.

>>7058289
Yes, right now. That's the key word here. Are you going to be dumb and buy when everyone else is buying?

Seems like EOS has paid a couple of quite sarcastic shills to post on /biz/

This money could have been better spent on actual development. Particularly since EOS is vapourware

>>7058289
>>7058326
this

>>7057247
>EOS has 0 fucking fees for users.

Stop lying. Eos gives you a use quota that's equivalent to your share of eos. Ie. if you own 1% of all eos you can use 1% of daily capacity.
It's way worse than ether and only whales are happy.

>Do you really expect mainstream users to purchase ETH for gas every fucking time they want to use the app?

Contract owners can pay for users' gas if they want.

>>7058356
>Stop lying. Eos gives you a use quota that's equivalent to your share of eos. Ie. if you own 1% of all eos you can use 1% of daily capacity.
It's way worse than ether and only whales are happy.
Thats for devs you fucking idiot. The developer of the dapp needs to own the EOS. The users dont need to even know its a blockchain based app.

It would be completely undistinguishable from regular websites for the users. Jesus how dumb are you fudders?

>Contract owners can pay for users' gas if they want.
And who would want to develop in a platform like that?

>>7058276
Holy salt. Ladies and gentlemen, embarrassed and ashamed Ethereum maximalist.

>>7058289
It has a functioning testnet for developers bro.

When is someone going to intelligently point out why EOS won’t crash Ethereum with no survivors? Oh right, because you can’t. You need to go full Alex Jones and make doomsday speculations.

Ethereum maximialists sound like David Icke describing lizard people when being dismissive of EOS.

Pic related: it’s every delusional ETH maximalist eternally BTFO and going schizophrenic from now until EOS flips ETH.

>>7058289
I repeat, this post is incorrect. The testnet already visibly outperforms Ethereum.

bought EOS at $14.5
please tell me I didn't fuck up
this will go to $100 in june and all this doesn't matter, right? RIGHT?

>>7058442
Should waited until the next dip

>>7058390
Y-yeah. B-buying Ether to use as gas for a dapp or cryptocurrency is something everyone’s mom and grandmother will do.

Ethereum is a failed autistic science experiment that isn’t practical in the real world like EOS.

>>7058467
kek, I thought it stabilized in this range after the dip to $7
I think I just won't look at it for a while

>>7058015
It was shilled, just not very thoroughly, as it benefited ICO buyers to not talk about the ICO on days they were going to buy tokens.

>>7058163
EOS does so many transactions per second because it has such high requirements for being a node in the network. Basically only businesses can run nodes. This isn't really a good thing. DPOS isn't super decentralised either, you have to have a lot of trust in your delegates and that has spawned some pretty bad changes on systems such as STEEM where the big fish keep getting bigger and it's harder for small people to start out. It's in the delegates best interests to act in such a way that profits them the most. Unfortunately a lot of the time that is not aligned with the best interests of the ecosystem. People are starting to see problems with that in our democracies right now, which is why for Ethereum full decentralisation is such a big deal. People will probably argue that we blindly follow Vitalik but so far he has been moving in the best interest for the platform, and has said he wants to move away from being a prominent voice in the future.

If Ethereum had as high requirements for nodes as EOS does, it would also have the same throughput of the network. They say in blockchains you can only have 2 of the following: Speed, Decentralisation, Security. So far it has been accurate. Ethereum will allow businesses to run DPOS systems and whatever other system they would like on top of Ethereum through the plasma chains. If they would like to not have the users pay gas on these chains then this is their choice as they are paying for the hardware and server costs.
At the end of the day Gas is a cost for running a server, it's not free to run a server so it shouldn't be free to use the blockchain. If dapps want to pay for their users transactions I'm sure in the future they will be able to do this in the future.

TL;DR ETH will be EOS plus so much more.

>>7058390
>Thats for devs you fucking idiot. The developer of the dapp needs to own the EOS. The users dont need to even know its a blockchain based app.

That doesn't make sense. It would mean that if I make a smart contract one person could use my entire quota for free and brick it.
Pure nonsense. No, these limits are for everyone.

>>7058429
ok anon show me this testnet.. googling doesnt bring anywhere. not even fucking reviews

>>7058467
What does it matter if EOS dips to $11.50? It’s going to $75 - $100 in June.

Anyone not buying EOS under $20 doesn’t care about their future. Please actually screenshot this:

Hello future. It’s January 2018 and I’m telling /biz/tards to buy EOS under $15 but they won’t listen and think it’s a scam.

>>7058526
No. You’re way too retarded to talk to me. Don’t do that again.

>>7057247
If you missed EOS under a buck, just buy ZIL instead, you lousy pajeets.

>>7058499
Yeah I mean, Ethereum will always charge transaction fees and you’re wrong.

Would your parents or grandparents ever buy “ether fuel” to “use a dapp” or website?

I didn’t think so. It’s time for you to admit the truth. EOS is decentralized, you’re blinded by Vitalik like a cult member and you need to wake up before its too late.

Transaction fees are from blockchain 2.0 but they’re outdated now. I’m sorry.

>>7058575
ahahahha why so mad nobody is buying you bags?

>>7058629
I wouldn’t sell if my life depended on it. I have 10,000 EOS and will until 2020.

>>7058390
Not answering >>7058505 ? Lol it doesn't take much to btfo eos' shills.
Explain how can transactions be truly free for users without allowing for trivial DOS of a target smart contract. You can't.

>>7058621
You obviously didn't read any of what I said and know nothing about ETH. You just tried to build a strawman and knock it down. As I said briefly but I will expand on it more now: Games, businesses and most things on ETH will run on plasma chains. They won't hit the main chain ever. The business, game, etc will provide the servers for the plasma chain and so there won't be any gas fees for interacting with these chains.

>>7057247
>ETH
>bagholders
stopped reading right there

>>7057334
hahahahaha idiot
You realize Cardano is taking ETHs spot not EOS

retard

>DUhhhhhrrr vaporeware xD

Not for long, they are working hard to make it right unlike EOS

>>7058505
>>7058712
This post was written by an actual retard. Developers can rate-limit on the front end and on chain to ban abusive IP addresses and wallet addresses.

You obviously don’t program, or at least program well. EOS will kill Ethereum.

Please don’t pretend to be smart. Thank you.

Also Dan wants to use C++ for fucking smart contracts...

>>7058845
>Delegates on EOS can ban IP addresses and wallets from the network
Isn't this abuse of power what most of us are trying to stop with crypto?

>>7057247
You're missing the point, Dapps are for businesses

>>7058845
>Developers can rate-limit on the front end

What front end, do you even know how blockchains work? You can make a front end with nice ui but it all reduces to transactions.

Which means that
>ban abusive IP addresses and wallet addresses.

Is literally impossible. It's not a fucking web server but a decentralized blockchain you dumb brainlet.

>>7058761
What you’re saying is that Ethereum can scale, but only when it becomes centralized to office computers like Dropbox.

How’s that paranoid schizophrenia and cognitive dissonance working out for you?

Anyone who’s doesn’t think EOS will overtake Ethereum is either ignorant, or a David Icke-tier conspiracy theorist cult member, following Vitalik until the bitter end which is coming sooner than you think.

I’m sorry, but EOS is simply better. Find an academic who fully understands both platforms and owns neither to disagree.

>>7058924
>You're missing the point, Dapps are for businesses
Kek what are you even trying to argue?

>>7058962
Yeah you and your idiot ETH cult members are still pretending to be smart. This is a problem. Let’s solve it!

Take steemit.com for example.

If one person is abusing steemit.com to spam blockchain transactions, he can be fingerprinted by rate-limiting and other techniques to blow him the fuck out on the front end, off chain with IP banning. Even if he uses a botnet with 50,000 proxies.

>>7058963
Ethereum will be able to process millions of transactions per second without plasma; through the use of sharding... Plasma brings it to billions of transactions per second... The thing ETH does do that EOS can't is that the main ETH chain is fully decentralised. A lot of smaller of shoots of the main ETH chain won't be, but they still need to report to the ETH main chain and still have to abide by its rules, EVERYONE'S rules. Not just the delegates rules.

How's that new strawman working out for you?

How about you find an academic that believes programing smart contracts with C++ is a good idea...

>>7059060
The problem with Steemit is that it's in the best interest of the delegates to act in the best interest for themselves. Which is why the creators with large followings on steemit keep getting bigger and paid more even though their content is absolute crap and half the time can't even be classed as a blog post.

>>7059060
>he can be fingerprinted by rate-limiting and other techniques to blow him the fuck out on the front end, off chain with IP banning.

You had to solve a captcha to write that and didn't even realize this disproves your point. If 'fingerprinting' worked nobody would use captchas because they are intrusive as fuck.

Also there are trillions of ipv6 addresses.

>>7058860

Because C++ is not efficient, right? The point is to convert to web-assembly, and other languages to code will be supported this year.

>>7059142
>Which is why the creators with large followings on steemit keep getting bigger and paid more even though their content is absolute crap and half the time can't even be classed as a blog post.
Isnt steemit's fault. That happens in every blogging or even vlogging platform.

>>7059162
>Because C++ is not efficient, right? The point is to convert to web-assembly, and other languages to code will be supported this year.
Smart contracts aren't supposed to be efficient, they are supposed to be secure. Which is why programming them with a general purpose language is a terrible idea.

>>7059174
>Isnt steemit's fault. That happens in every blogging or even vlogging platform.
It is part steemit's fault. The delegates get to vote on what changes get passed into the steemit system. Incredibly they voted in a system that rewarded people to upvote content from large creators as quickly as possible, and allowed upvoting to be done with programs automatically.

>>7059060
Oh nice, this must explain why people Heajin who are completely fucking abusing the platform are going completely unchallenged... He posts awful TA videos and gets bot upvted for 400 USD a pop sometimes as many as 8 shitty worthless videos a day.

Nobody seems to be stopping that guy and everyone hates him.

>>7059106
Based on what you lunatics are posting ITT Plasma only scales off-chain and is fully centralized as a result.

As far as C++, only for now, and thank god. I believe that compiles to WebAssembly will work in the future, but C++ is enterprise standard and will bring elite programmers to EOS. So will $1B of capital for EOS projects. You know I didn’t fucking stutter there - don’t you bitch.

Ethereum is simply going to be ruined by EOS. The time of autistic science experiments with no mainstream use cases is over.

I’m sorry about your inability to predict EOS a long time ago. It’s only because you’re retarded, or dismissive to the point of cognitive dissonance and/or paranoid schizophrenia.

What I’m saying is that even though you weren’t good enough to buy EOS at under $10 it isn’t your fault. You’re just either retarded or crazy.

>>7059162
How is deterministic code execution assured?

That's the point of solidity and the
ethereum virtual machine.

>>7058963
Cardano you fucking idiot
The real academics are involved with this coin
And it will moon starting FEB 1

Heard it here first, now go on and talk about how EOS is better you chink

>>7059263
why wouldn't you own both?

EOS = Ethereum of Satanists

Fuck off with this chinktanist shit faggot

>>7059239
Just for the record you said C++ WA smart contracts are less secure than FUCKING SOLIDITY. STOP! I can’t! Who invited these retards? You Ethereum retards are KILLING me.

So stubborn. Please just admit that MAYBE you’re wrong about EOS and I’ll forgive you. Otherwise you *will* kneel before the king.

>>7059263
Why FEB 1?

>>7059243
I believe anything that compiles to WebAssembly will work in the future.*

>>7059239
>t. brainlet who thinks C++ isnt efficient and secure
Then why the fuck are fighter jets using C++

>>7059294
Solidity executes in an deterministic manner, assuring that all nodes will see the same result. This is basically impossible with C++

>>7059304
>>7059283
Lets just say i was talking to a whale that confirmed himself here the other day. A mini whale if you will

Either way he said Korea loves ADA and they will be able to use their exchanges soon to invest

Feb 1st is just a estimated figure, it may start before.... or a bit after. Either way, look at the chart it is consolidating for a mega moon. Don't have to know TA to see it. Just look at the 4h chart in advanced mode

>>7059263
Just stop. Cardano already got BTFO for being an EOS clone.

Source: https://steemit.com/cardamon/@dan/peer-review-of-cardano-s-ouroboros

Tl:dr Cardano got BUSTED (caught) copying EOS. Cardano is poor man’s EOS. The Litecoin to Bitcoin.

When will you retards bend the knee for EOS the king? When it’s too late?

Ok. That’s fine. We’re patient. And we’re coming for you.

>>7059347
My only problem with ADA right now is that its way more sensitive to BTCs movement and BTC likes to take giant shits. ETH at least resists a little.

Through arguing in this thread I have reassured myself I have made the correct choice being all in on ETH. Thanks everyone.

>>7058680
nice

>>7059347
Korea loves EOS too. Don’t talk about Koreans like they’re mindless dogs.

However, wait until they figure out Cardano got busted plagiarizing EOS and that Cardano will never be as fast, efficient or adopted as EOS.

One billion dollar VC fund for ADA (slower/shittier EOS)? Anyone? Does that exist?

>>7057247
Take your "one year ico" scam somewhere else

Is it better to buy NEO or EOS? I thought you need to hold NEO to have EOS.

>>7059368
Ignoring hard things again are we? >>7059154 is not going away.
Let it be known that OP is a faggot and his no fees narrative got completely btfo.

Have fun selecting signs, cars, roads or whatever to write the next reply. "Fingerprinting" pff.

>>7058007
And how exactly will shitcoin have any value if no one is required to hold it, buy it, or use it?

>people assume vitalik created solidity for shits and giggles and compare the language with python/javascript/c++

deterministic code execution faggots

>>7059495
jesus newfriend i think you should do some more googling before posting here

>>7059495
At this point the theme seems to be if you are not hold ADA EOS NEO and/or ETH you basically hate money I guess.

>>7059400
Ah, the cognitive dissonance of a retard. You’re not intelligent enough to DYOR into EOS. You would rather listen to people who believe:

1. Solidity is more secure than C++

2. Off chain centralized scaling with plasma is ok (btw, this won’t make eth’a price go up either)

3. There’s no way for developers to rate limit their EOS dapps to prevent spam attacks. (Why isn’t steem constantly gamed? Why hasn’t bitshares been hacked?)

Face it. You fucked up, and now you’re riding with team cognitive dissonance. Transaction fees are for disgusting retards and Ethereum is an autistic science experiment that won’t create any widely used apps or services.

EOS is going to change everything, including your opinion of it. Remember this day.

>>7057385
this, fuck the haters, crypto train has just started

>>7059444
we will see friend, i'm comfy with my ADA stack i bought at 17 -20 cents

COMFY

>>7059561
>Transaction fees are for disgusting retards and Ethereum is an autistic science experiment that won’t create any widely used apps or services.

Especially not in gaming. I don't think we will ever see games that use crypto unless its on something with zero transaction fees.

i want to buy eos but i dont understand this registration shit its scaring me

>>7059561
>Solidity is more secure than C++

You have no idea what your writing about. What makes a regular language secure or not does not apply to solidity.

>>7059627
it's quite easy really, you just need to use a smartcontract on MEW - in any case it's a good thing for you to learn how all this shit works so that you feel a bit more confident about holding funny internet money

>>7057247
no fees = spam

EOS is vapor. all hail ETH

>>7059516
I’m not ignoring you. I’m glad you’re trying to think. It’s healthy to examine EOS critically, even though you won’t do that with Ethereum.

If fingerprinting and rate limiting can’t work, why isn’t steemit constantly ddosed offline by attackers?

You’re going David Icke and Alex Jones with IPV6 botnet scenarios. That would be a problem for the entire Internet, not just EOS.

PS what’s cloudflare? What’s round robin?

You aren’t smart. If fingerprinting didn’t work Steemit would be DDoSed or 500,000 posts saying “EOS SUCKS!” would litter its front page every single day....... until attacker fingerprints were identified.

Do you think you’re a hacker?

ETH cultist BTFO as usual. Just like Dan blew Vitalik out on Twitter yesterday. You autistic science fair retards are about to be murdered.

>>7059627
This is a big one for me too. Sure maybe the steps are easy and it should work. But I will be shitting a brick regardless come June first. If I fucked up even one tiny god damn step I might be out 100k

My ass will be puckered at 12/10 pucker value. They should release a wallet or something where it just does the transfer for me or some shit. I will do the steps like 8 times and go over every tiny thing and still have doubts that it will work as intended.

FUCK!!!

>>7059561
>3. There’s no way for developers to rate limit their EOS dapps to prevent spam attacks. (Why isn’t steem constantly gamed? Why hasn’t bitshares been hacked?)

Because they both limit how many transactions users can do per time period based on how many bts and steemit they have. It's called 'bandwidth' in steem.
Educate yourself on the basics.

https://steemit.com/steem-dev/@alphacore/bandwidth-limit-exceeded-the-silent-killer

If you register through steemit.com the site GIVES you a bit of bandwidth to post. Because it's a centralized server they just use typical antispam methods.

Lets say I hold EOS and expect it to moon in summer. Do I:
A. Silently accumulate while the price is favorable
Or
B. Loudly shill the fuck out of it on /biz/
B is the scammers choice.

>>7059826
not sure shilling it on biz will do much about the price desu - and EOS is in a different class from most of the rest so A?

>>7059826
EOS is too big for shilling to have any effect
it's like shilling ETH or NEO at this point

>>7059860
but to expand on this, talking about it on biz at least triggers good discussions such as the one in this thread - if you hold eos and want to know if there are flaws in it, it's good to see both sides of the argument

Buy at an exchange or from the ico?
EOS is a good 1year hold btw

>>7059826
>B. Loudly shill the fuck out of it on /biz/
>B is the scammers choice.

If the coin garners a cult like following then shilling is just another way to knock on your door at 9 am to read scripture...

And remind you that you are going to hell.

>>7059674
Answered in >>7059762

>>7059561
>Ethereum is an autistic science experiment that won’t create any widely used apps or services.
ethereum made eos

>>7059762
Why do you think EOS dapp developers won’t centralize typical anti-spam methods? Your argument has been BTFO. I understand that EOS is different than Ethereum, but that’s intentional by design. It’s better and you’re fully aware of it. There will be no killer ETH dapps.

>>7060024
Bitcoin made Ethereum.

>>7059616
yeah micro transactions are absolutely not a thing and never will be, that would be fucking stupid

>>7060130
Fucking stupid argument.

The currency would need to be used for a lot more than microtransactions. Simply dispatching a mob would potential drop money on the ground you can run over to pickup. That kind of mechanic is possible with EOS but is literally impossible with ETH.

I can easily imagine using EOS for gaming. But ETH is basically limited to pyramid scheme style games.

>>7060061
Centralizing antispam means registration. If you have registration on eth you can also pay for users' fees in eth. So the outcome is the same.

Proof of stake in eth means that you get the same share of daily fees as your share of ether, which means that share of daily gas is effectively free if you spend it. So funnily enough it's equivalent to eos in that regard, while also allowing people to pay as much fees on their own as they want, which EOS can't do.
Eth is objectively better and it's impossible to deny.

I'm going to be blunt, what were dealing with with these "Ethereum killer" projects like EOS and Cardano is just a bunch of jealous nerds trying to become Vitalik because they're too angry with themselves for not seeing what he saw.

That's all this is. That's what """""blockchain 3.0""""" is. That's what ouroboros is.

It's the mental gymnastics of a sad, jealous man who refuses to be an Ethereum researcher under Vitalik.

And the shitty part is they're taking thousands of people on a ride with them for their jealous journey.

It's sad, honestly.

>>7060200
everyting all around you is a fucking pyramid.

>>7060246
This is complete bullshit. Any tokens associated with Ethereum require Ether to run. Xcoin built on Ethereum will always require Xcoin users to stake Ether for transaction fees. Now they have 2 cryptos instead of 1.

Ethereum transaction fees are expensive, taxable events.

>>7060378
Are you 100% positive? That’s a bold statement from an insane cultist.

Do you think maybe Ethereum is hard to scale because it’s flawed and wasn’t future-proofed?

Bircoin -> Ethereum -> EOS / Cardano

Natural progression. Survival of the fittest. EOS will flip Cardano, then Ethereum, then Bitcoin.

Kneel now and we will spare you.

>>7059878
Well I will crédit EOStards with focusing on one high-quality shill thread, rather than multiple Pajeet-tier threads but “sell all your ETH for EOS or die a homeless fag prostitute” tone is unnecessary.

>>7060753
Bitcoin*

>>7057866
Cant wait to see this dump on you hard.

>>7060761
Breh it’s probably just me and like 3 other /biz/tards at most. EOS is a top 10 crypto because smart and rich people outside of 4chan did their own research. We don’t need to shill EOS on 4chan because it won’t *ever* change the price of EOS.

I’m just frustrated that you assholes didn’t listen to me at $0.50 - $1. I’ve always only been trying to help.

>>7058792
>Ranjeetdano

>>7060822
I got into EOS relatively heavily at under a dollar. I should be okay. Yourself?

>ETHfags think this is ok

https://etherscan.io/chart/pendingtx

>>7061161
>what is plasma

>>7060822
it will be worth 100$ in july

>>7061242
when's it coming out?

>>7061381
According to ETHTards itt even when and if Plasma comes out, it will be centralized off-chain scaling similar to offices running Dropbox.

Hopefully office computers running Plasma don’t become infected with ransomware.

Plasma won’t do anything on-chain? Then why would that be good for the price of ETH?

Is plasma Dropbox?

>>7061479
>is plasma dropbox?

did your mom suck me off last night?

>>7061531
maybe

>>7061531
Is this where we have devolved? Yo mama jokes?

Here’s a fun joke: EOS will flip Ethereum and then Bitcoin by EOY 2019 because there will finally be mainstream adoption of blockchain applications thanks to EOS scalability, $1B capital injection for carefully selected EOS projects, and glorious airdrops from these beautiful VC funded projects.

Hey did you guys know Eric Schmidt’s VC fund TomorrowVentures is partnered with EOS?

EOS is partnered with a Google co-founder. Why?

Why did a Google co-founder just partner with EOS?

>>7061641
Don't forget to register your adress mate

>>7057385
if there are no transaction fees, what's stopping me from making millions of transactions for free in order to destroy the network?

>>7061479
why are you so desperate to convince other people to buy your erc20 token? why do you care? you have nearly 40 posts in this thread.

it's interesting how whenever a shitcoin pops up, it's coming from the same community backing steemit and bitshares - one step away from beetconnect

I'm gonna write jokes and earn fucking money doing nothing with BZC faggot, what are you guys doing? Kek.

>>7061685
Done bro. Months ago :)

> tfw you have the foresight to know the bitcoin killer will be a feeless eos smart token

> tfw eos is the ethereum and bitcoin killer

> tfw $1b vc fund partnered with google cofounder eric schmidt for eos projects

> tfw retire from airdrops alone

>>7061700
rate limiting

>>7061703
>erc20
>check testnet

I’m genuinely just trying to help poorfags and I’m frustrated that most of /biz/ is being left behind on what could be the final blue chip moon mission.

>>7061785
>people on /biz want other biztards to succeed
welcome to parallel universe
also thanks, just sod 100k

>>7061785
yes, yes we all know testate is promised in 6 months

for now it's still an erc20 token. so why are you insulting people with genuine critique of EOS? again, why do you care so much about whether or not we buy it? you're at 40 posts. that goes beyond wanting to help /biz/

>>7061842
I’m helping by providing /biz/ with much needed EOS education.

>>7061842
>>7061898
and for the love of god there’s a functioning testnet that developers are using. EOS isn’t “just an erc20 token” very unlike most erc20 tokens.

ITT: Anons too ‘tarded to comprehend the all-encompassing complexity / beauty of Cardano.

>>7061685
>Don't forget to register your adress mate
how do you do that and what for ?

>>7061842
he has >100 posts in this thread, paid pajeet shill confirmed

>>7061898
>>7061915
except half your posts are spamming the same five bullet points after people have already seen them? you're just insulting people who don't want to buy your token now.

also every erc20 token promises a testnet and then mainnet

>>7061969
you're right, I was only looking at his ID. he's using a phone to post half the time. fucking pathetic.

>>7061964
Because it's an ERC20 now and you need to register that you have tokens to be able to get your new tokens on June the 1st, so you have to do it before that date.

It's not that hard, you can read about it on their site or watch a youtube tutorial.

You can do it in MEW

>>7057385
>Will be faster than Ethereum will ever be (millions of tx/s)
It's still in ICO, not even close to finished. Plasma + Sharding will bring Eth to millions of tx/s too.
>$1B capital injection program for EOS projects.
Ethereum Foundation has billions of dollars.
>EOS has partnered with big VC firms who will pick winning projects to fund.
Lol have you looked at the Ethereum Alliance?
> Elite developers are extremely excited about EOS. Much more so than any other platform.
Pretty bold argument considering ETH has by far the most developers out of any crypto.

>>7061969
Not paid or a pajeet. EOS maximalist providing much needed EOS educational material to /biz/ as a hobby and to avoid doing actual work

>>7062071
> muh sharding and plasma
When? Also sharding will always require Ethereum dapps to pay transaction fees in Ether which are taxable events.

> muh ethereum foundation has billions
Yes. They’re using a lot of that money to beg for scaling solutions because Ethereum apparently wasn’t future-proofed like EOS.

Source: https://www.coindesk.com/vitalik-buterin-announces-new-subsidies-for-ethereum-scaling-research/

> muh enterprise alliance
You mean trendy research partnerships which don’t mean anything and are solely the result of first mover advantage in smart contracts? EOS will accommodate real world enterprise solutions beyond trendy rudimentary research partnerships.

> muh ethereum has the most and the best devs
Why is the Ethereum foundation pumping out multi-million dollar grants for help with scaling? Why hasn’t Ethereum already been scaled internally? You’re contradicting yourself.

Kneel before EOS or be left behind.

>>7062407
>Yes. They’re using a lot of that money to beg for scaling solutions because Ethereum apparently wasn’t future-proofed like EOS.
this isn't a good selling point and you should learn how to market properly. maybe you think it was, but how would you feel about being approached by a company that tells you
>our initial product will be so much better than our competitor! we will have no flaws upon release and never have to update it again!
go away pajeet

>>7062471
> never have to update it again!

Never said that. Dan has repeatedly stated his commitment to continuously updating and improving the EOS blockchain well beyond the ICO.

Ok I have shit to to.

I’ve taught you /biz/raelis everything you need to know about EOS itt.

Remember remember, the pic is related.

>>7060378
This argument is garbage and obviously you are a newfag.
These "jealouse nerds" you talk of already have successful projects under their belt and are now coming to "kill" ETH.
Dan Larimer from EOS created both Bitshares and Steem.
Hodginkson worked on BItshares first with Larimer and then left to work on Ethereum with Vitalik.
Also not mentioned in this thread so far is Mike Novogratz (CEO of Galaxy Digital and former Goldman Sachs partner) was an early investor in ETH but just recently announced that he is starting a $325 million EOS.IO Ecosystem Fund to help fund the development of dapps. Obviously he sees the potential in EOS over Ethereum.

>>7063018
Does anyone need to enumerate the important people that support ethereum?

>>7063076
Maybe for the newfags that only know about Vitalik

>>7057247

There is going to be a ton of shit running on the ethereum network and the general public won't even know it.

Just like the internet is basically run through TCP networks. Everyone uses the internet and TCP/IP, but the general public doesn't give a fuck or even know the details.

All I know is Dapps are the meme of 2018 and all dapp centered coins will moon hard this year.

Considering to buy Arcblock and Tomochain right now to be honest.

>>7058406
>41 posts by this id
>still 0 counterarguments

>>7057385
Why not have both? You think 1 platform is going to rule them all? I hold ETH, EOS and NEO. Conpetition is healthy, see Coke and Pepsi, Mcdonalds and Burger King, Toyota and Honda.

Isn't EOS vaporware though, literally no product just promises

>>7057247

It's vaporware ERC20 token
The tokens have no guarantees and no value
They're located in the cayman islands so they can safely pull off the exit scam
Dan Larimer is a scam artist

There is literally no guarantee that the frozen tokens will ever be migrated to a hypothetical EOS blockchain, if one ever were to actually exist in the future. You are getting bitconnected.