/biz/ - Business & Finance

>inb4 $1 and 'muh browser plugin'

>>7052888
Well John McAfee has decided to start advising for them so I'm throwing some money in.

>>7052888
bump.

>>7052966
really? source please

>>7052888
checked
thoughts on this?

>cnet.com/news/new-funds-help-browser-maker-brave-try-ridding-the-web-of-nasty-ads/

Is it still relevant?

>>7052888
I've been hodling on to these bags for months. We don't have any target dates for YT implementation to my knowledge and it hasn't been shilled enough by big name youtubers. If either of these things don't happen by late May, I'm dumping

>>7053454
wtf? YT implementation has been done for awhile. for your sake i hope you mean twitch

>>7053454
BAT is a long term hold. Had you invested literally just a month ago you would have 2x'd your investment (3x before bitcoin shit itself)

I downloaded brave and messed around with it for a couple hours and came to the conclusion that I would never invest money into this idea

>>7052888
Pretty much the only safe bet for Coinbase's ERC20 additions.

>>7052888
Just read the whitepaper, it's never logical for the price of 1 BAT to exceed 1 USD based on their model.

>>7053716
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.
I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little $1 defeats the whole purpose of the token post and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just write the text. I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about BAT. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET.
A pathetic FUDfag NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "$1 defeats the whole purpose of the token..." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

>>7053988
I'm sorry I can't seem to find the part where you show how the price of 1 BAT can exceed $1, probably because it would defeat the purpose of the token.

>>7054062

It's true. BAT is just a glorified Tether replacement.

Moved my holdings out.

>1. Only Operates in 1 browser which I'm pretty sure has less than 1% market share.
>2. For it to be worth anything to advertisers and content producers they will need to be able to cash out.
>3. Google/Apple create there own token making this DoA.

Good idea? Yes
Actual applicability? No.

>>7054540

>1. Only Operates in 1 browser which I'm pretty sure has less than 1% market share.

from:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/7h6gi4/pewdiepie_youtuber_with_58_million_subscribers/dqq8z4r/

"As we get bigger and 3rd party adtech collapses due to its own middleman problems and negative externalities, we will bring BAT to other apps, not just browsers, and standardize."

>2. For it to be worth anything to advertisers and content producers they will need to be able to cash out.

from:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/7ekc33/im_a_youtuber_800k_subs_with_a_few_questions/dq5mf3s/

"User gets 70% revenue share (App Store standard), which by default pays back to top/pinned creators for that user, as opting into BAT ads opts into Brave Payments. We hope to have trials running 1Q2018."

>3. Google/Apple create there own token making this DoA.

from:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/7h6gi4/pewdiepie_youtuber_with_58_million_subscribers/dqq8z4r/

"Chrome cannot block 3rd party trackers & ads as Brave does. They’d tank their stock and be sued for that materially adverse self inflicted damage. They are doing a cosmetic ad filter, just to ban hated interstitial ad formats. Not much perf gain from that."

DYOR

>>7053497
I was under the impression it wouldn't just be in the Brave browser. I'm talking about implementation in non-meme browsers.

>>7055384
all new implementations appear first on BRAVE. they will trickle down to other browsers at a later date.

>>7054540
> For it to be worth anything to advertisers and content producers they will need to be able to cash out.
they can cash out immediately without ever touching a private key. all they need to do to cash out is to log into https://publishers.basicattentiontoken.org/

Why this shitty sideways movement BATty boyz?

>>7055861
accumulation.... massive accumulation going on. also we need youtubers to buy in at these prices. that will make them even more willing to shilling

>>7055980
Philly D already has bought in and started shilling on YT. Did 0% for price.

>>7055861
I'll take sideways movement any day of the week.

Look at the price movement of DTA (shilled on here as the "BAT killer")

>>7055861
People's free coins have yet to be contributed

>>7056020
That was just a precursor to the shilling. The shilling will be when every youtuber talks about BAT at the end of their videos. When every youtuber says that you can buy it on coinbase or download Brave to support them. That will only happen if every youtuber first gets hold of a substantial amount of BAT. So it is necessary that the currency spreads right now. If the price went to $5 straight away then people wouldn't be as willing giving their tokens away to youtubers and newspapers. Also, youtubers wouldn't have time to buy in. Right now we don't want NEETs hoarding a bunch of coins. We want famous fashionable people with large followings owning large quantities of BAT. Those are the people that can bring people into cryptocurrency that barely knows what bitcoin is.

>>7056180
Ah so what you’re describing is ponzi scheme YouTube edition

not gonna download your gay ass browser and neither will normies, fuck off

>>7056501
BAT has actual utility so it's not a ponzi scheme. What I am talking about is how BAT can spread most effectively. Or rather, how cryptocurrency can spread most effectively. Why aren't youtubers all over bitcoin today? because they have no reason to if they didn't invest in 2011.

>>7056599
You can't reach some people my man. They see BAT and think "muh browzers", completely unable to see that's it much, much more than that.

>>7056512
Go play with your pajeet coins, no one is stopping you.

There is going to be some form of automation right? The only problem I see with this is the amount of manual input required from the user. I can't see this massively taking off if revenue is only circulated through manual transactions.

>>7056845
It is automated in its main part.

>>7056845
Yep. It's still very much in BETA. It's funny you mention manual transactions being undesirable as several people are asking for exactly that feature to be added.

>>7053988
These pastas are getting meta

>>7056961
>>7056882
I didn't realize it was automated. There's some fucking misinformation going around here. If I were to install this browser on someone else's phone, would the BAT circulate just based on their normal browsing habits? I can't imagine someone like my mom manually voluntarily donating BAT to websites that she likes. If the average normie can browse with this shit and BAT just distributes in the background, then I can see this thing taking off.

>>7057516
That is exactly how it's set it up. You browse as you normally do, and it will automatically distribute BAT to the websites the user spends the most time on.

>>7057516
It's not currently on mobile but as far as i know it either blocks ads, or you allow ads and set up payments where it can automatically distribute to your used channels or you can distribute it yourself via monthly percentages.

>>7055089
>reddit links not official links
If true great tho.
>>7055854
So Advertisers pay BAT Team then BAT Team pay end user and take a cut from that ?

Not trying to spread FUD but this system seems to 'rely on people relying on the system'.

If they can convince big players, to the moon it goes.

Also for Consumers/End users. AdBlock > Paying for content ?

>>7057718
They were direct links to posts written by Brendan Eich, CEO of BAT and BRAVE.

Short of a press release, it doesn't get any more official.

>>7057718
It does depend on advertisers moving to the system but it promises cheaper, more accurate ads for them. As for adblock, it is true that most people prefer that but brave natively offers that better than other blocks. So it is there with a single click if so desired.

Mongoloids on here love to shit on BAT when it is literally one of only a handful of coins with any true substance. It's use cases go well beyond "get paid to watch ads". It's posturing to become a platform to support content creators that isn't beholden to any big corporate gatekeeper. With it audiences can bypass, youtube, patreon, twitch etc.

The shitty distribution among a few whales during the ICO hasn't helped it gain steam but the real reason it never pumped early on was extremely poor hype. Eich was coming from a very traditional school of thought that you don't start hawking your project before it is complete. That shit doesn't fly in the cryptoverse and is why the price tanked so hard after mercury. This is something that has changed hard as of the past couple of months. The announcements have been coming in rapid succession and Eich himself is hyping the token on social media. This leads me to believe that he is getting some good advice on how to market to the crypto world now.

2018 is going to be a good year for BATmen while brainlet naysayers will stay poor.

>>7054062
Go and read the fucking whitepaper for the coin YOU invested in, you spastic cunt. It btfos your own argument harder than any of us ever could. It is so painfully obvious when people on this sub have obviously invested in shit just because of the logo.

>>7058107
was obviously meant for
>>7053988

>>7058107
Is the time of day when we get prime /biz/ tards posting?

I'm comfy as fuuuuuck my man. YOU read the whitepaper.