/biz/ - Business & Finance

>$593 app
Hello, world!

>>696994
>uses comic sans
>is a nigger
shit writes itself

About 35% there. Looking to double that by the end of summer. All its going to take now is deciding whether or not I want to get it up and running in December or if I want to take an easy lane at my current job until mid-January b

Still an alcoholic though

100%, just made 25000 profit last year

>>697236


damn bro, that drinking might tank the biz, handle it quickly. So you're doing something with winter huh...hmm

>>697304
Ayy lmao, lucky sunnofabrick

>>697225
In other words
>I can't make an app worth more but costs less
>So I'm going to shit post while I cry over my keyboard

>>697227
Yes, yes it does.

>>696994
I'm 100% started(building, selling, etc), but only 5% towards where I want to be before considering it a business versus just a lucrative hobby.

Who the fuck said it, "if you go to market with a product you're 100% satisfied with, you waited to long." Do first, and improve the process later is where I live now.

>>697563
What are you making?

>>697576
Building weird furniture that hipsters, soccer moms, and other vagina-havers love.

>>697563
fire hazards

>>697633
SAFETY FIRST KIDS!

>>697684
story?

>>697690
Ripped the top of my ring finger of with my belt sander. These things happen...

>>697697

Ooo, like...for good? Or did you have a pickle jar or whatever...

>>697720
Naw... skin and part of the finger nail, is all. I'm hoping it grows back like a French tickler. Bitches love French ticklers.

>>696994
Shut the fuck up, eBay boy.

>>697739


oOo the troll is back, where's your bananas my friend?
Shit posting isn't the same without those Lori nanas :/

>>696994
Site launches today. Founded the llc on jan first but i sell an 18+ product and regulation is iffy so finding online credit card processors was a total bitch and time waste.

Its quite a niche though so i dont expect a lot of sales until the expo in may.

>>697750

OOps wrong board, you had me thinking this was /b for a sec.

>>697756


I have a feel I know what it is, but grats to you my friend. I'm just glad we were able to grow up in a time where the internet is still beginning. Let's suck it dry and invest (not Bit/Doge coins) so we can reap the fuck out of it later on.

People think it's too late, we're just getting started...

>>696994
stfu with your gay ass startup, you won't do anything good with that shit-app you're making with friends from undergrad / postgrad.

Fucking cunt.

>>697761
Its a niche flavor of ejuice. I overestimated my market by 3% (turns out its 1 in 100 vapers not 4 in 100) but its fine. Learning experience if nothing else.

Totally with you though , the devil takes the hindmost. I just wish id been more lucid and gotten in 3 years ago or seen btc coming. Its crazy man. "Once in a lifetime" get rich quivk opportunities are happening every 4 to 6 years now.

Shit i remember when soylent first came out i was on yhe discourse board geeking out with everybody all fucking into it and it didnt occur to me to monetize it , they have like 4 or 5 well known knockoff diy brands out right now. Totally could have been me (i used to diwcuss micronutrients with those guys) but my head wasnt in the right spot (namely , i was blind to the opportunity in front of me)

Cest la vie!

>>697781
holly shit, I didn't even look at opie's pic and said randomly he was a fucking douche making an app but he really is ?

Fuck off /biz/, go to economy 101 you fucking hipster band-waggon nigger cunt.

>>697684
>those defined ridges in your hands
Don't ever commit a crime.

>>697783

Oy vei, we learn from our mistakes. You're right about the get rich quick years. For anything religion related isn't going to work nowadays (I.G. churches etc), franchising is still on, branding goes the same, but that's one in a million.

I have a feeling VR is the next step for quick riches. No one has yet to perfect it, so we'll have to still give it some time.


Did a quick search on Soylent, lol I can't believe people actually eat/drink that...

>>697865

Just got an email from Paypal, seems they're giving out loans for people who make 20k+ on Paypal.

>Tfw when you only made 18k on PP

>>696994
Bump

I'm waiting until I graduate to open a business. I want to open a bar that serves food. This summer I'm gonna get a job at one and learn as much as I can on someone's dime. Then after careful planning and market consideration I will open a small bar. Food and drink quality will be the main priority. However they must also fit the demographic I'm trying to reach. This will probably be blue collar because of where I live. Anyway I have been reading up on the science of bars and hope to implement some things in my bar. I think a lot of trouble bars have are due to poor management.

I have an idea for an app but I have no idea how to program or where to go with the idea. Advice?

>>696994

Business one is 100%, going okay, little slow right now but it's resales so I don't get good inventory until the Summer

Business two is about 5% right now. I'm expanding into consulting/business services. I don't see it being ready this year.

>>698089

At least you're done with one, don't let the shark tank know you have a second one, haha.

>>698076
Fivrr, Elance or even Craigslist is a good place to get started. People from all over the world will make great apps for you under $1k, While here in the U.S. most people charge up to 10k-20k because "hurr durr it's obje-c & java" "pay me moar so we cun graow da economee".

When we all know they're just running it off a platform that runs like Dreamweaver...then prolong the proj to make it look like they did alot.

>>697783
The soylent hype made me a tiny bit mad, because it wasn't even new. There were several brands of similar complete food drinks on the market, before that autist even started development for it. It also upsets me a little when I see student teams "inventing" "new" methods of cleaning water (it's the old methods every time, what they actually "invented" was new product design). The local university "invents" the water purifier every year. I think it's some engineering project module the students have to go through.

There is no month were there isn't another new old product being hyped as the next vision and opportunity.

But no matter... one can still cash in. My job is creating hype, so I shouldn't be mad about hype. I feel cheated, though.

>>698206
>thinking software programmed by an Indian is ever worth even close to 1k$

No matter what you do: don't do business with the Chinese or Indians (Indians being the worse choice). Also avoid every freelancer from Africa, they never meet the quality standards of the modern world.

Exploit university students. They ask for little and can make apps just as well, if they can program.

Eastern European code monkeys are also cheaper and as good as the Western counterpart, but the gap is closing.

Japs also have better work ethics than the Chinese, but they aren't really cheap and I somehow feel they overestimate their abilities (So basically just like the Western freelancers. Conclusion: go with Eastern Europeans).

100%

A lot to improve though. Writing an affiliate framework with paypal payouts. I have the perfect market to advertise to...untapped market.

I am low balling at a 500% sales increase.

Also going to sell the affiliate system with monthly subscription.

>>698217

Okay I have to agree with you on the Indian part. I mean...when they're over there they tend to not even know English well as to really understand how to communicate with you. But hey you might come across someone who knows their shit from time to time.

>>698218
I take it's an app, great to see that everyone knows where the market is going.

>>698222
>App
No. It...I will shitpost here after I set the affiliate system in place and market it.

I would post it now but literally anyone could copy exactly what I am doing on a $0 investment.

>app
Would be easier to get big on youtube.

>>698224


Oh fuck yea Youtube is the new marketing. Think I already said this back on the old eBay thread but; I sent in a couple of my Chinese gadgets I sold on eBay to some YouTubers to review, sales were off the roof for a month!

Fucked up and realized I gave them the item link instead of my store link, so when I ran out...I ran out. They had to go through the trouble of clicking my username to "See more".

I mean literally I didn't even have to pay, just send it to the low grade youtuber's with REAL viewers/followers (checking their videos for comments) and then ask them to review your shit. Haha, some of them made fun of it but it still drove traffic.

Imagine hitting poopdiepie...

>>697783
What flavor is it anon?

>>696994

99.8%.

Funding is secure. Infrastructure built. All the code is written, save for one specific part which has proven to be a serious undertaking. Once I manage to crack it, the money will start pouring in. 4-5 figures per day.

>>698251

Looking at pic, I can say I.....still have an idea what it could be.

I mean, remember the black guy from Shark Tank with that simple app for telling students who's giving free scholarships? $$$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhRzdqmuMGg

Anything is possible...

Looking at pic, I can say I.....still have no idea what it could be.

I mean, remember the black guy from Shark Tank with that simple app for telling students who's giving free scholarships? $$$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhRzdqmuMGg
Anything is possible...

>>698239
Semen

>>698251
What code issue? I can offer a solution.

>>698259
Pic isn't related. I'm just a big fan of Ronda Rousey. She's a big inspiration to me.

>>698229
I gotta try this

>>698266

Googling...

>>698264
Not strictly a code problem. It's a problem that needs a creative solution. I've been stuck on it for a while, but I'll crack it eventually.

>>696994
Is this your custom phone case idea?

How's that coming on?

Who's making your dies and where you getting the materials?

>>698239
Naturally extracted tobacco or NET's. Artificially flavored tobacco ejuice is a fucking garbagey joke.

Teouble is when you use real tobacco to make the concentrate the plants sugars get into it and this gunks the coils up something mighty. so youd need a new wick after like 15 ml's , hence my target isnt just the 1% of ecig users that like tobacco flavor but of those the ones that use RDA's and "drip" instead of tanks.

>>698271
Rousey versus Alexis Davis.
Rousey versus Cat Zingano.

Total fight time: 30 seconds.

>>698278

Wow, great story. I take you're a...femanon?
http://www.biography.com/people/ronda-rousey-21319725

>>698276

That gunking is a problem for me. I will buy some of your eJuice. TNT Tobacco is the best I've found so far, but it's rough on throat hits.

>>698280
He's not solved the gunking problem.


Read his post again.

>>698279

No, I'm not a femanon.

I collect heroes and Ronda is my latest obsession.

>>698284
Also TNT isn't a NET supplier , its artificial , maybe pure grain alcohol derived but thats still artificial bullshit in my book.

I make mine with heat and cold maceration in a PG or VG base and then filter down to 2.5 microns

>>698285

I see, Aliko would be mine.

>Same nationality
>Same birth date
>Same ethnicity
>Same goals/philosophy (even though he's reached his of being the world's richest black/african).

Just good to hear people aren't still falling for celebs just because...they're celebs.

>>698287

Aliko seems cool. I dig what you're saying.

Ronda could be my older sister, in terms of age and ethnicity.

I aim to have my problem solved by her next fight night. Pic related.

>>698272
Im creative AF. email me (throwaway)

Apexlawncaresolutions gmail com

>>697553
Not shitposting, I was an engineer at startups for seven years and now I run my own consultancy.

What on earth kind of app are you getting built for < $1000 and who is building it? Indians off of rentacoder/odesk?

>>698528

It's an app that allows users to upload photo's/files to my dropbox/website...basically it. lol, except there's a few exceptions/additions.

User pays with paypal/iap, I get the file and transform it ** * ********** ****, then mail it to them.

I understood you saying "Hello World" meant that you thought it was a crappy app (hence HTML Hello World). But it's actually more to it, on the back end that is...

I say "$593" because that's the price of the Apple store cost + Google store + servers/subscriptions. The cost of the app itself is well under $300.

>>698540


and I canceled the deal with the Indian guy on Elance after
>Pic related

He told me I'd have to hire a graphics designer...good thing I know how to use PS. Looking to pay some Yalie to do it for me for $300, or some profess at my cc, call it a "proj for class".

Already created the logo/icons/buttons for all the devices and correct sizes etc...just need someone to put it all together.

>>698543
God damn that thing is hideous. I sometimes get the temptation to do jobs on freelance, but I know it's not worth the struggle...

>>698556


Youtube is my teacher...
fucking cc only teaches Dreamweaver...
walked out of ps class after femnazi professor made us sign up for Tumblr on the 1st day.

Wasted time/money I could've spent at a technical school.

I mean, I'm not asking for much, lol just freelance one more time..for a fellow channer.

>>698556

Fuck me, I'll send you $250 Paypal ..or western.

>>698556


You can spend 1hour on my super yacht every week?

>>698561
What all are you looking for? I kinda have some spare time between work and my side projects.

>>698567


App will be able to:

>Upload photos
>Upload 100MB max videos
>Upload text
>All into one folder
>Folder is sent to me after user checks out with Paypal API or IAP from google/ios.
>User will be able to also select a color of choice
>User will be able to also select a picture out of 5 pictures of choice
>All files sent in one folder (for organization) with user's Paypal email so I can find address when sending their purchase.

>>698570
Have you thought about testing it with bootstrap/foundation/ink/wordpress/etc... or any sort of front-end framework first?

I'm just asking because it'd take 1-2 days to get all that done with basic mobile orientated site. You'd have your MVP then and you could use that to help with your customer validation if you haven't done that already.

>>698570


Also, have ads...gotta get some $$$ from those lurkers who can't afford it but want to design their shit like they're really going to buy it. lol like people who walk into stores not buying anything.

>>698574


>You'd have your MVP then and you could use that to help with your customer validation if you haven't done that already

Can you rephrase that?

>>698576
You'd have your minimum variable product which in turn might save you a good chunk of money before you build your app.

Have you done any sort of customer validation with this business/idea?

>>698576
All I'm saying is you could have a very easy to build website made for mobile users. It'd still be able to include all the things you want and you could track your traffic.

>>698579

Ah, yes a previous company used to do exactly what I plan on doing. They stopped because of **** ***** *** ******* ******* *** ***** company. So I bought out their old stuff (even though I was going to buy the same tools from China for cheaper). Anyways, I know it's going to succeed, there's alot more that could be done to better the app, but right now what I'm asking is just for a small store-like app to basically do what you're asking...to test it out.

>>698581


...I......never taught of that. I mean, if I had the site running with the paypal api, all you would have to do is just add the source n stuff. Instead of creating it yourself...

>>698584


why am I rushing this app when I don't even have a site up yet...

you know...never mind. I see my flaw...

>>698584

> google foundation framework
> download the framework
> go through their templates
> find the one you think works best
> start building it and add your content
> run into any problems go to their docs on the site
> get domain and hosting
>????
> SPAM

>>698071
Good that you are bothering to learn about how to run a bar. These fucking nitwits on shows like bar rescue make me cringe. HURR DURR I QUIT MUH JERB TO PURSUE MAH DREAM AMD OPEN A BAR. OH SHIT I'M BAD AT THIS.

>>698587
Thanks bro, guess I'm really up all night.

I'll make sure you get at least 20min a week on my yacht when this kicks off.

>>698589
I'm not a fan of water. Also you should post your logo

>>698591

Haha same here, think I passed with a C- in swimming last year.

Also, nah I'll pass on that. It would give everything away. Still learning the back end of my bizz. Thanks again

>>698592
But anon-kun no one steals ideas in this dojo. It takes a doer to build something not just an idea.

>>698594


Haha, sounds like something Mr. Wonderful would say while he took down notes for his devs.

I'm fine, it's nothing...haha..ha

>>698595
Alright I was just curious and wanted to help. Logo work is enjoyable more so than having to go through lines of code.

My first launch for my startup will be early july. The second launch will take place middle of august. I have a good base of clients so far.

>>698594
>being a doer
>not being a big-picture kinda guy

>>696994
Ok so did the grand opening and was hoping for a smidge of orders without having to resort to bs. No dice.

What should i do for a grand opening offer? Buy one get one? 50% off?

>>698597


Ayy nice, and yea the logo was like the most fun part...spent a good day trying out different ones. Went overboard, then under, then stupid. Finally made one that didn't do too much or too little.

>>698602
If I'm hearing your correctly it looks like you either opened up your eBay store or a thrift store/bakery etc...lol do what everyone does. Just give free shit until everyone knows you give free shit, then one day charge the hell out of them.

Do the Tinder...

>>698206
I would call you a filthy liar but I actually do that in the US...

>>697905
>using loans
>from PayPal
Nigger, what are you doing?

>>698071
I predict that you will be on Bar Rescue.

>>698606
Logo looks like shit. Get with the graphic trends if you want attention. Keep colors warm and basic. Get rid of those shiny stuff man, this isn't 00's anymore. Shit, I'd help you with the logo, but I'm sure it won't help since your entire UI prolly looks like shit too.

>>698071
>>698588
Bar Rescue - Taffer is a very smart man, knows his industry. you can see the distain when he hears the owners and managers have never run a bar.

Moresoe when they we customers first.

I just recently moved into fuel and convenience as I'd like to start acquiring businesses in my area, in that space that are failing. I've got 12 years of retail management in QSR, FMCG and CE behind me. certified to within an inch of my life in accounting, business management and acquisitions - about 6 years behind where I wanted to be about now but the shit I've learnt since will make me dangerous... I hope.

All funded by 3 other businesses I've built, profited and sold in the past years.

is it okay to include a search function on your website, that crawls through specific websites and spews out a part of their content as a search result as long as i link to that page? e.g. im searching for a specific date, it checks the indexed websites for entries that contain the date, then displays the formated relevant content.

>>696994
Bump

>>698766
I always find it funny when people open/buy a bar(or any buisness for that matter) with absolutely no industry experience. If it's your 'dream' then you should suck it up and spend a year working at a successful bar and learn how it operates first.

>>698565
>not even enough time to eat, have a cup of coffee and take a shit

>>697684
that looks like a pretty handsome hand, i'd suck those fingers

>>699041
Are you female?

>>699036

You can always combine it, 1hr x 24hr = 24 weeks. So he can get a whole day for about half a year's worth of weeks. Or take a whole week 24hr x 7 = 168hr and spend 3 years all in one week. Seeing he knows how to make a decent app, I'd say he's in his 30s so 55weeks x 40 more years of life = 2,200hrs/92^ days

>>698540

Why the fuck would anyone want to upload their pics to your website? How is this supposed to be monetized?

>>697905
>>698749

It says no credit check. How can this even be?

>>698749
>>699292


Never said I was getting it, but it is tempting.

>No credit checks

It's because they check to see if you're selling on eBay/other sites and are making decent income but need capital for inventory or a car/ whatever for your business to grow. I mean, they must check your feedbacks and everything else if they're not checking your credit (which I don't even have).

>>699282


http://caseapp.com/

With a few exceptions

>>699297

Right but someone could be 30k in debt personally and about to declare bankrupcy or default on payments and their business itself could be working on razor thin margins previously subsidized by their credit cards. In this case PP would lose 20k in a flash.

>>699306

Oh so you've got a whitebox case manufacturer that dropships from HK or something.

>>699308

haha true, but hey...these mofos are rich so who really cares.
Seeing my name, I'd prob still be declined even though I'm top rated with a high feedback score.

>>699311
Nope, I will be the manufacturer/shipper, and it's not just a basic custom case. It's very complex case you wouldn't think exists.
>brb, out to afro americ his

>>699108
Well you were close on my age lol I'm only 23. If you need any help with anything today hit me up. I'm not here to steal ideas since I have my own startup that will be launching soon.

>>696994
What is a press?

Me I'm about 90% with a service business startup

>>699734

A press is a press

>>696994
>been working on my web startup for 1.5 years
>90% done with product
>lost motivation to finish it

Going full Walter Mitty imaginging its success

>>699779

lmao damn bro, at least try to make it to 99%...there's some programmers in here that might be able to help you out with simple html.

>>699789
>simple html

umm.. it's a web app

It's mostly the error validation which needs to be done. Which is a pain in the ass.

>>699803

Ah, thought you were trying to make a website.
Well, whatever