/biz/ - Business & Finance

Short sony short sony.

>Guy who made one trade is #1 and up twice the profit from guy who made 56.

>>63993
>inb4 he never makes another trade for the rest of the year and he still comes up at first place..

If stocks have already started to rise in pre-market trading, do you still buy the stock at the price it last closed at (if you put in a buy order)? Since the trading game doesnt seem to update with the pre-market prices.

>>64072
I assume you buy it at whatever price the stock opens at.

>>64083
That makes sense, just is annoying that some stocks jumped a lot (eg FRX) and the game doest support pre/after-market trading. Will cancel my order for now.

>mfw this game doesnt allow AH trading

>>64138
Also, only US markets and no options trading :(

>>64138
>tfw your DGAZ sell order didnt fill because lul afterhours

My body is ready for the losses

>>64366
.tfw you couldnt dump your CHTP at 5.30 PM after holding overnight

>>64375
Thank God its not like this IRl. Didn't have the balls to hold DGAZ over weekend.

>>64382
nor did I have the balls for CHTP it went 3.50 in the AH friday loool

>>64389
I just cancelled my limit sell order since it was supposed to be my stop. Le fu

Market time market time!

I'm ready. Come at me bro.

>>64404
>Invested heavily in 2014

You've got spirit mate... I'll give you that..


>>64405
10 more min before I lose my 1st place ( ;_;)

>>64409
>You've got spirit mate... I'll give you that..

What do you mean with that?

>>64404
>not short a single thing as a hedge
Ur dun kid

>>63964
hey OP do you have more pictures like that? 'cause that's fucking hilarious

>>64415
Tech hasn't been doing very well this year. Even after posting nice profits they get #rekd in AH...


Also thinking about applying to be a janitor for /biz/

>>64419
I don't like the idea of shorting. I'm an optimistic person

>>64409
Yeah well hopefully to me, I'm in 2nd, then I'll put all my money in dogecoin.

>>64429
True, but remember you're a businessman and that means business comes before being a man.

>>64438
>dogecoin
It's so funny that people blatantly try to pump and dump Doge on this board. It's like they want to get V&

I wonder how many people quit already...

>>64441
But my dad works for Doge, he said its legit

>>64429
im not saying to net short but its wise to hedge

Should I sell FLXN? Made a decent amount. Do you guys think it will rise again?

>>64452
Who knows but there's over 350+ people I think. This is the official marketwatch thread. Just remember that 4chan kiddies are mostly NEET or working at some day job without any free time to post.

On /pol/ during the /sfig/ threads we didn't get a majority of posters until after 5pm.

>>64460
>dad works for Doge

Pic related, my dad with my Doge.

>>64423
I still think that there's a lot of money that can flow into tech or other stocks.

Over the last few months I've noticed that trading gets a lot more common (TV shows, etc.). For example the News at n-tv (german) at 22:00 starts now (since the sochi olympics) with the end bell of the NYSE.

Game Start.

>>64468
>not a shiba
you think this is some kind of game?

>>64452
Be funny if they just brought shares on the first day then quit and end up winning through luck.

>>64441
Am I the only annoyed by the Dogecoin thing? Doge in general is annoying, people need to go back to Reddit

>>64485
no, you're not, its on the front page non stop. Along with any other stupid shit knockoff bitcoin threads

Fuck me.
That was in the green about 60 seconds ago.

>>64475
>Implying my Doge isn't a 10/10 qt 3.14

>>64485
>>64497
I think it's universally hated. I with they would take the pumping to IRC though

What are those yellow dots on the graphs? What are the green dots?

>No options trading
>No futures trading
>No forex trading
I guess it's safe to assume that no one's taking this seriously then?

>tfw jumped from 200th place overnight to 6th

>there are people who don't allocate a third of their portfolio to burgers
Damn gommies hate America.

I'm just having the most fun watching Cray Inc. rapidly shit on itself.

>23 yo business law student in his 5th semester
>already learned about stocks and shit in college
>haven't invested anything yet

Well, guess it's time to get my shit together and start studying.

>>64565
>forex trading

FRX is on the rise.

Anyone use Marketwatch?

Could someone kindly explain this to me?
When did I borrow cash?

Jesus Christ. Gone from rank 6 to 66 in ten minutes.

>>64621
You're giving 100K in starting capital and 100K in margin. Apparently you've used some of your margin money

>>64621
How do you think you started the game?

>>64565
Pretty much. Though I'm using it as a gauge of how well holding of leveraged index ETFs shapes up to everyone else. Also enjoying everyone shitting themselves over people with few traded being in the lead. Everyone bitching at wipe on Friday was hilarious.

>>64621
You shorted a stock so you've borrowed money.

>>64639
Yup, trolling lulz were had.

>tfw my limit sell was reached but I forgot Marketwatch doesn't allow AH trading...

How long does it normally take for trades to go through? I'm sitting on trades that are being processed since the market opened. Getting real sweaty up here.

>>64647
hahahahahahahahaha

Rank 5. feels good man

Why did wipe get knocked out of first?

>>64676
Because he didn't diversify his bonds, nigga.

>>64676

>>64672
I know I know. I forgot no AH trading!


>>64676
>limit sell didn't fill
>stuck bagholding

DGAZ is a cruel mistress

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/home-builder-confidence-plunges-in-february-2014-02-18?link=MW_home_latest_news

ruh roh. Housing data not looking to sweet.

Surely we can attribute this to the bad weather...r-right?

Buy coke now.

>>64676
Because he bought a hugely leveraged ETN that shot up Friday and sank today.

>>64683
>Not listening to the RZA for financial advice

>>64688
It's greedy ass lenders using a low rate to inflate the prices of property and using the limited amount of time to force people into buying.

I don't know a goddamn thing about stock markets.

I already lost $600 in five minutes.

>>64707
-0,7% isn't that much

>>64723
It is when you first start trading because he's looking at dollar amount and not %

So are these CBIS and HEMP and the like scams? Or is medical marijana something legitimate to invest into?

>>64707
No one becomes a master within the first five minutes of playing a game.

Actual trader here, going short on CL with 1000 shares, entered at 62.24

>>64707
I lost money in the first hour.

And then I made 11% returns in a single trading day.

Just pull thorough and learn.

>>64707
>he invested in Coca Cola

>>64745
No, mostly tech and biotech companies.

If I knew a thing about actually investing IRL, I'd probably invest half my money in spacex as soon as they went public.

>>64745
Coke's stock will raise in half a month. Let's see who is laughing then.

>>64745
>not buying the shit out of KO now

It's undervalued.

Dat panic.

>>64745
Coke has been steadily increasing and just dipped. Invest now broooo

>>64754
DIVERSIFY

>>64767
>Diversify
Jew detected. We don't want multiculturalism!!

;^)

Its coming up, its coming up

>>64780
Not so fast Goyim MW has yet to update

So wait, is this a thread just for the game, or for actual traders on /biz/?

>>64797
Just the game.
There's usually another (or several) stock threads.

>>64780
>implying you're taking first place from me
Lunch time is approaching, burgers will rise in value as investors get hungry

>>64797
It should be like the /sfig/ threads on /pol/

>>64797
Both. Those people learning to trade are using the game while others comment and teach.

Pic related, my trading linked bank accounts

How diversified are your portfolios?

I've got 2 car manufacturers, 1 retail, 1 steel company, 2 food, 2 tech, and 1 entertainment.

>>64812
Agreed. Hence why most of us are in this thread

Sell Sell Sell

>>64632
Does using margin lower your rankings, or do you effectively just have 200k. Not sure how complex this is.

>>64809
I've got 17 different firms, and I'm not even sure what half of them do.

Almost 300 players and it's just the second trading day since /biz/ was created. Awesome

Coke just announced it is going bankrupt. The other 11 you have stocks in it better bail now.

>>64823
It effectively lets you have 200k buying power. But youre charged a fee for using margin.

>>64830
Link or it didn't happen

>>64809
one stock all in at a time

>>64830

Bullshit.

>>64831
>>64840
http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/14/news/companies/coca-cola-announcing-bankruptcy /index.html?iid=SF_BN_River

>>64830
Except Coke has been increasing steadily over the last year. soooo fuck off.

>>64850
You have to delete the spaces that were obviously added in when I created the fake URL.

Shorting IHG and Coke.

Let us see.

>>64850
Nice try faggot

>/2014/02/14/

Plus your link also doesn't work.

Anyway, the coke hate is disinfo. Right now is a great time to buy coke, sure it has had worse than expected earnings but we're already seeing a slight correction (I'm in positive territory from where I bought).

>>64860

So after a bad earnings report and a big dip you decide that you want to short, as if you think all of a sudden everyone's going to decide that it's EVEN WORSE than what the market has already adjusted for?

Jesus christ, hopefully you learn something by playing this investment game.

>>64860
>Shorting coke
Seriously?
This is fucking Coke, we're talking about.
You could go to the most remote region in the most poverty stricken country on the planet, and you won't find medicine but you'll find coke.

>>64880

Coke sales down in most major markets, people are turning off Coke.

>>64874

Still has further to fall, overvalued.

>>64880

It's like people selling/shorting banks after a dip. Do they really think that banks aren't going to come back after all we've seen?

>>64886

Literally the only reason for the fall is worse than expected financial data. The market has already had its dip and now it's starting to correct.

The idea that "people are turning off coke" is stupid because coke is more than just coca cola - the company is less of a soft drink company and more of a distribution company.

>>64888
C is a good short though...WFC is good for a long but don't act like there aren't banks worth selling

>>64903

Coke is still down from when I shorted, I have made money even after fees

>>63964
How do i place orders? Why can't i buy apple stocks?

>>64936
lel

>tfw have barely any idea what I'm doing, just buying things that look like they're either on a downswing and about to stabilize, or things that are on a constant upswing

I bought KO and MU today

Why does everything I touch turn to shit?

Bad luck?

I have to say, as impressive as some people's 10% gains are look at the bottom of the list... Someone managed to make a 25% loss already with only 4 trades.

I wonder whether the average /biz/ trader is positive or negative compared with the market average.

Worst fucking game ever, why wont it let my buy stocks for 25 million?

>>64959
Luck is for people who can't do maths.
This is just like any other game. Keep playing and eventually you'll get sorta good at it.

>>64963

Did you ever watch that BBC show where they gave 6 (or 8?) rookies who've never traded a mini hedge fund

After 2 months they outperformed the majority of hedge funds

Was bretty crazy.

I've closed out all my shorts.. where is everyone looking for market news? where can I see when reports are released?

You need to buy undervalued stock which will raise in a few days/weeks. In not much time you will be selling for maybe 5-7% profit

>>64956
That's basically my strategy too, I'm doing okay with it -- Though I do feel like I need to calm down and just settle with some good stocks that I bought at a low price.

I'm currently shorting blackberry since I think it's recent rise is overdone.

>>64972
maybe because you don't have 25 mill

Is Micron Technology worth holding onto, or should I sell as soon as I see it dip?

It looks to have an absurdly stable curve, constantly going upwards for 5 years, but it's also looking to skyrocket really hard, which means a really hard crash.

>>64980
If you look at the trade page (for marketwatch) and click on each stock they list the recent news for that stock in the side bar.

>>64980
Is this it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lQGYuqAuG8

>>65003

Haha yeah, that's it.

Some people just weren't cut out for it, but others made a real go.

Help out a total newfag

Let's say I read a news thing that says housing data comes out and it is SHIT

I would then short a housing stock in the hopes it will drop?

>>65035

I don't think so, the market will have acted before you because they're just a lot faster.

I focus on solid companies that have a bad week and buy them at their lowest. I wouldn't necessarily do this over an industry though.

>>65003
Three hours? Is it worth it?

>full on nflx 2 days ago
>went to shit
>still keep them
>now they skyrocketed

B -)

>>65035
no, drops in housing data are just (supposedly) indicators in economic health in general.

Who knows though, i only trade mutual funds.

Can you only buy stocks from these companies? I cant find the trade button for any other company

>>65049
idk, I'm starting to watch it though.

>>65055
Go to portfolio and look at your buying power.
What does it say?

>>65055
See the search box above them? Type in the company name there.

>>65049

I watched the whole thing in split episodes and can honestly say it was pretty good

Not heavy on the data side of it, but enough to keep you interested

Big focus on what drives people to make decisions, what happens if you have no strategy etc

>>65055
entery the company symbol in the search bar...

Why can't the stock just fucking fall

What have you traded today, /biz/nessmen?

>Sold FB at 67.02
>Bought TXN at 43.81
>Bought MU at 25.24
>Bought WEN at 9.37
>Bought BC at 43.43
>Bought KO at 37.41

>>65082
Bag holding DGAZ like a boss

>>65082
Bought KO at 37.40

Bought MO 25.51

I have no idea what I'm doing, but I can't see Coke not climbing back up, and MO has had a straight upwards trend since their creation, so it looks safe

>>65082
based fellow KO buyer bro

>>65086

Shorting 13,297 DGAZ

>>65068
I have no strategy and I've climbed to rank 15 today.

>stock game
why not just play with real monies

>>65108
>Shorting 13,297 DGAZ
Nioce

>>65115
because this is for newfriends who have no money

>>65115

The fees.

>>65115

Fees + don't feel like losing my house in a margin call.

>>65082
>Short YOKU at 32.91
>Short VNET at 25.56
>Cover VNET at 25.33
>Sold to exit MIL at 7.47
>Cover YOKU at 32.25

>>65080
>shorting on a bull market
luls

>>65115
Because either we don't have any money, or we don't have the experience to do so, or we just want to try some crazy shit with no real risk

>>65131
why play with margin when you can play with options. The leverage is much greater and no stinky interests

>>65131
You wouldn't lose your house. Using margin with autosell if you reach a certain percentage loss...

So if you have 100K in capital and a 100K margin, then the stock will auto sell around 50K in losses

>>65145
>tfw holding a triple leveraged etf

>>65115

Well, I've been playing this stock game for a week and I'm just not making much of a % beyond what I'd expect to get from a fund anyway.

Anyone else ITT going to apply for janitor position on this board?

>>65086
same

>>65159
No, there are about 5% of people who are decent human beings, the rest are pumping doge coin and trying to figure out how to generate income whilst being NEET. This thread, the literature threads, and Index Fund generals are about all I am interested in.

Pretty certain the stocks are defying my trades just to fucking spite me.

>>65155
no daily /sfig/ thread for the real market?

>>65082
I have just been messing around with Apple. I sold too early so I decided to short when I thought it was about to drop again.
Made a mistake of buying GM when the market opened though.

>>65165
Ah but it would be nice to work way up to modship status on this board

>>65169
These are the /sfig/ threads mate.

What do these numbers mean?

>>65179
Made this for the threads

Nuuuuu

-$769.99

WTF ARE YOU DOING

>Lunch time approaches
>Other people did not purchase shares in BKW
Its like you hate money

What should I buy?

>>65202

Go short DHI

>>65173
you should apply m8

>>65209
I deciced to go for coke.

Should I ditch my INTC stock?

I don't like this trend, it might take months for it to climb back up and I don't know if I want to have 30k locked that long.

-$1,080.88

ARE THERE ANY BRAKES ON THIS RAPE TRAIN?

>>65210
I figure I will apply, but I don't expect to get selected. 4chan has a history of getting janitors/mods that don't actually do much to the board.

>>65224
>tfw went from 118K to 91K in one day
No sir, we just add liquidity mate.

>>65224
we are rich... 100k in the bank. Whats the rush? In it to win it no breaks bois we making da mulla

>>65240

-$1,595.77

It is defying the news.

Anyone in here know anything about cars? Thinking about buying a 3rd car for whenever kids arrive (recently married) and would like to have a nice Sedan that I wont mind children ruining.

>>65250
Haha imagine if those were your real profits...

>>65196
>lunch time
>he didnt invest in weed (HLF)

>>65224
>-$1.4k friday closing
>-$300 now
Slowly crawling back.
I figured most of my loss was due to panic selling/buying.
Now I'm taking things slow.

>>65255
have kids, kia soul is good on gas, super cheap to buy and maintain, great for family, and doesnt break down ever. also noy a target for thieves

>>65255
Audi.

IT'S HAPPENING, I MADE $400 in 30 minutes!!!

Aw yeah, up to rank 9! Was at 66 a few hours ago. Was getting nervous.

why can't I trade BRK.B

>>65255
Buy volvo, they just made a 100 million dollar ad

>>65272
>kia

haha that cheap plastic in the interior

>>65282
you probably can, i've had problems with their symbol.

>>65282
you cant trade vanguard australian bond indexes either

>>65289
i didnt buy it to nail bitches

Buy NQ faggots, you can thank me later

>>65269
>Audi
Nah, I'm thinking about replacing the E350 with a Tesla Model S. All those tax rebates are amazing.

>>65278
>>65272
>>65290

I was thinking about a Honda Crosstour V6 2014 because I actually fit in it (6'5) but I haven't met anyone who's actually used the car. So no experience.

>>65209
>DHI
Fuck you, just lost a ton of money

>>65290
everytime I click trade it locks up and nothing happens. have you tried any other stocks with periods?

I win in 1 year. Pic related.

>>65295

Bet it wasn't as much as me

Stay with me, bro, it's coming back.

>tfw jumped from 300th to 50th place in an hour
I should become a stock analyst instead of an engineer

>>65312
>Engineer

I never actually understood what you folks did. I worked at NASA in 2012 and the engineers get all sweaty when you ask them what they actually do.

Damn I'm just making an account now; this looks like so much fun

aww yis...

number 4 in one day. To bad i didn't start earlier I would be number one now.

>>65302

You are retarded.

>iphone 6 is a flop
>other social networks eat into facebook's share

>>65322

-$2,162.42

Bet you can't do that in a day.

>>65302
FB is bad for long term

>>65321
engineers don't actually do anything - STEM degrees are a scam.

>>65323
I shorted FB and Apple is bound to go up, as usual.

>>65321
>engineers get all sweaty when you ask them what they actually do.
That's because engineering is so abstract and simple that many engineers feel like they are taking advantage of the company

>>65323
>eat into facebook's share

Let's put this into perspective.

Google has 5 billion search queries a day.

FB has 1 billion without trying.

Guess what FB don't have? Ads on their search queries. They would generate so much free money whenever they feel like mobile isn't enough

>>65331
I have my BS in Mathematics. I think STEM is the only way to go if you want to stop after 4 years.

>>65332

I'm shorting FB too :)

Good choice on that one.

>>65332
You shorted FB? Why?

>>65332
>>65343

>shorted FB
margin call inc

>>65347
They just looked like they goofed off all day. I was working side-by-side with mission controls Astrophysicists the entire time while the Engineers played with all the neat gadgets.

But whats funny is, the Finance majors run NASA.That's why I abandoned that major.

Its there :D

Hold or sell CLF?

They're going down again now

My heart

>>65332
appl and amzn never die

they're like fucking unkillable zombies

shorting them is bad juju

>>65336
Guess I didn't clarify enough, I thought the red bar showed I was shorting it. I'm shorting it, long-term. Facebook will be dead soon enough. I'd short it for 2-3 years if I could.

>>65345
Facebook has gone down in usability, people are steering away from it. Games that Facebook had are now all going mobile, ads aren't worth anything due to click farms, etc.

tl;dr people dislike Facebook more and more and I'm sure it'll die out at one point just like MySpace and other social networks before that. The only reason I (and probably many others) still have a Facebook account is because everyone uses Facebook chat and lots of events and organizing is done through Facebook. I could give fuck all about anyone's profile or their photos, which includes my own.

>>65306
oy veiiii

>>65370

Oy veiii indeed :L

If this was my money I'd be looking for a pipe/tube and an enclosed space to park my car right now.

>>65341
you realize fb is already on the decline, right?

>>65360
>I was working side-by-side with mission controls Astrophysicists the entire time
What was your position?

GOOGLE IS GOING TO THE MOON!!!

>>64809

Pharmaceutical-heavy (40%), with a mix of financial (25%), and some other shit. Play2win nigga.

>>65376
Glorified cog. We basically monitored satellite debris for the ISS. Lots of pollution up there.

I think my favorite part about the whole thing is dispelling peoples notations about NASA being high tech. They barely put Internet up there in 2012 and it was basically a 56K modem in mission control that would send a photo of the website back to the ISS. Shit takes like 5 min to load a webpage.

I went when they were about to launch that rover to Mars

>>65366
This. Now that I think of it, I should have also gotten some Tesla shares before using my whole bankroll.

fslr is propelling me to the moon. Funny i bought it with my doge earnings. First the moon.. then the SUN!

Careful buying in now though, it's rising a lot in a day, might pullback. but if you are not on this ride at all you gonna get goofed.

I was thinking about a Honda Crosstour V6 2014 because I actually fit in it (6'5) but I haven't met anyone who's actually used the car. So no experience.

Does anyone have any experience with the Honda Crosstour??

CNCE is screwing me over.

>>65341
>comparing a search engine's search queries with a social network's search queries
>implying Facebook isn't riddled with ads which are absolutely useless in terms of ROI
>implying Facebook isn't trying
>implying Facebook hasn't already started dying

We'll be witnessing the de facto death of Facebook in no more than 4-5 years unless they pull some serious magic out of their asses.

The only trades that I'm making any gains on are those that nobody else in the game has.

What should i do with Blackberry? It's jumping all the time.

What does the numbers mean? Is 0.0089 how much each share has increased since i bought it or what?

I'm all in on DGAZ. Don't screw me over Wipe.

>>65443
Enjoy the wild ride mate.

>>65440
It's very volatile, only invest in it if you plan on monitoring it hourly or daily; it's not a good portfolio investment

>>65443
>DGAZ
owning a 3x etf.

I seriously hope bro. I seriously hope you do not do that. the only way you can play 3x etf's is to buy puts and sell calls ion the inverse side of where you want to play. You are shitting fucktons of moeny away on volatility if you are not day trading that shit.

2x is the max i would ever consider holding.

>>65440
I've been shorting it and I've made a decent bit of money.

>>63964
Who owns the Federal reserve?

>>65375

FB owns their most likely successor (Instagram), so nothing really changes.

>>65440
Yes, the right numbers are your personal increase

the ones on the left are the stock's daily price increase

>mfw i made 3k in two hours
>mfw i aint doing this for a living
I should stop being a neet and start making some money

>>65491
You realize photo sharing on Facebook has become a marginal feature?

>>65501
What's the difference between the first and second number on the right?

Is anyone considering selling out of Tesla at the end of today's trading?

I'm not entirely sure how confident I am about the Tesla financials satisfying this new high price.

>>65494
you should.. I think i am finally out of this neet hell hole. made 26k dollars on on doge, just enough for a td margin account. Sold that and and invested now up to 38k in a month. Get good and get going. Only one life to live.

Should I just sell my CNCE stock? It looks like it is only going to get worse.

>>65491
except it does

instagram is already at its zenith

look at what happened when fb tried to buy snapchat--the current big thing. the ceo of snapchat told zuckerjew to fuck off

>>65494
You just have $100,000 lying around that you're not using?

Short PRAN as much as you can right now.

>>65515
nice m8

how the fuck many doges did you sell and how did you get them all? by mining?

>>65515
>made 26k dollars on on doge,
What? I have 50k doges, where did you sell your doge and how much did you make?

>>65520
>tfw I want to buy a Tesla
Company cant be stopped. Shorts have been burned for two years on Tesla. Nobody wants to sell.

>>65506

What's your point? Instagram is where users are going. If you think social networking has anything to do with features, Google Wave would have been the number 1 social network since 2009.

>>65520
tesla earnings are out tomorrow evening

it's not your money, why not hold for the wild ride ahead

>>65535
>Tesla earnings are out tomorrow evening
Hold in game, wouldn't hold IRL.

>>65518

Instagram is actually making money though.

>>65524
No but i have 1000€ in savings that i dont really need to survive, i could had made 20€ last hour if i had invested my money.

PRAN volatile as fuck due to research release

Up a ridiculous amount,

SHORT SHORT

>>65535

I just feel like there's going to be a slight dip tomorrow. I feel like I could make money and come back in when it's a bit cheaper.

oh man this site tells you nothing about your investments

>>65545
I'm sorry friend but try investing for another 3 months at least before you decide you're a genius investor.

>>65530
>>65529
I bought a rig at the begging of December with 8 gpu's and mined doge almost since the beginning. Admittedly i stopped mining a few times because of stable shill. Curse that fucker. Then i made 6 million more doge gambling.

>>65546
what research release?

>>65555
Nice get

Also 8 gpu's? What kind? I've got dual 290x's at home.

>>65556

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/pranas-huntington-disease-therapy-meets-endpoints-2014-02-18

+36%

Volatile as fuck though and it WILL crash, no new research reports until March.

>>65532
Features aren't what sells, the usability of those features is. I could bet you $5000 that if Facebook came out today in the form that it is in now, nobody would use it.

Engineering in the oil and gas industry largely involves figuring the requirements of various pieces of a plant or rig and then ordering those pieces from a supplier and evaluating the documentation they send back to ensure things meet the standards they asked for.

On the macro scale though, it largely a sale of man hours between oil companies and engineering firms with the intent when all is said and done, you have something that works.

For people that build stuff, they're really fucking terrible at documenting things. Which gives me a job and takes up about half their time as thy try to figure this shut out.

is investing in Sony actually a bad idea? I believe it will continue to grow

>>65573
Short Sony.

They're dying, selling off branches.

>>65569
280x.. probably not the best choice. I just googled a guys rig that was selling on ebay and copied his build. It was very cost efficient.

Does anyone know of any Brazilian coffee companies listed in murica?

IS PRAN crashing?

>>65593

PRAN shot up too far too fast, it'll come back down

I shorted 11000 PRAN now just made $2,276

>>65593
i see it at 9.92, not far off from the day's high

so... don't think so, m8

>>65587
you could look at JO-- an etf commodity tracker

don't know of any specific companies, though


green mountain coffee got a big surge after the coke deal recently

>>65599
Mine was at 9.82

>>65607

Shorting 19,420 PRAN

I see others are jumping aboard.

>>65596

Yeah I agree, it's going down again.

Good tip.

the fuck? canv is listed as a popular stock of the game

i didn't know it let you trade pennies

Made up $4,000 loss from PRAN alone

Cashed out now deciding next course of action

>>65578
>shorting sony when they are spinning off and selling sectors
Dumb /biz/ advice, you'll go broke.

PRAN plummeting again

Waiting to trade my shorts

Gogo risk averse portfolio!

>>65573
It's not. Trust me, I know what I am doing.

>>65664
I constructed a pretty well diverse portfolio, but considering I don't have a lot of time on my hands I 'll get fucked

Who else watching Pran like a hawk?

>>65680
Im playing the reddit game too (and in that game im using US Bond Funds), and ive made about 4k in the last 3 weeks, but am still solidly in the middle of the pack. Playing ETFs and Index funds are only a win in real life, not in this game

>>65575
Ah. So do you just mine the shit out of a new coin whenever it comes out? Just in case?

>>65692
Me, around when are you planning to cover?

>>65696

9.66

>>65692
>>65696
>Shorting PRAN.

Thing looks healthy as fuck. Go short ARIA.

>>65705
It's rocketed 34% in a day and I bought right at the peak, it's going to stabilize and drop pretty hard.

>>65692
I shorted it, made $800, and I'm fucking OUT OF THERE

>>65711
I don't think its going to drop today, candlesticks are there.

>>65717

Aye

Was down $3k and now I'm up $1k overall

Thanks Pran but I think if you stick with it it'll fall harder today.

Just bought in to WM, this is a long play - I imagine people will come back to seeing the value in WM.

AMD is still giving out good returns if you catch it at the right time and speculate it.

Hot tips right now, what you got, /biz/?

>>65770
PRAN short
BUY BUY BUY

>>65770
Buy PRAN

>>65774
>>65773
PRAN shorting might be over

It hit .60 and now it's stabilizing

>>65780

Patience

It wont close at +35%

Profit taking in later part of day almost guaranteed.

I shorted FRX, was this a bad move? I mean just fucking look at it

>>65795

Good, short Actavis as well

May as well, they're both high due to takeover.

>>65787
this

bump limit reached, someone make new thread

>>65822
We still have 10 pages to go.
There isn't a need for a new thread this early.

For any marketfags

How do they regulate market manipulation by the big banks?

How can they say whether a large trade was intended to move the market or whether it was legitimate?

>>65854

They can't. Welcome to reality.

>>65845
Yes, but this way we can remain on page 0 for more views

>>65860

Couldn't a large enough place just steamroll everyone else?

ie we get "bad" news, they decide it is good and just buy buy buy and pump it until others fall into line?

>>65854

Unless they find some email that says "I'm buying to move the market" Its almost impossible to provce

>>65864
Anyone who wants to find this thread will use the catalog.

>>65864
>implying people still use the front page
The catalogue exists you know.

>>65864

Mr Janitor you should make it.

>>65872

What do you think the Fed is doing anyway?

>>65889

So they're like the asshole at the poker table with enough money to just bleed you out or stomp you out, whichever you choose for yourself.

Why would anyone play?

>>65903
>>65903
>>65903

new thread

>>65905

theres a saying "dont fight the fed"

>>65905
well, the fed are playing it on a much higher level where they aren't just moving parts of a market or even a "market" but rather the entire financial system.

Then you have the banks, which move the markets.

Eventually you get down to little rats who might have a chance of picking up some scraps.

>>65907
You didn't even name it properly.
"Daily Market Thread 2.0" could confuse people who are searching for the real stock market thread.

>>65937
apparently there isn't one

wipe usually makes a /sfig/ thread and he's in these threads

so deal with it

>>65701
No I don;t deal with crap coins even if i could make some scratch, not worth the trouble imo.

Mined doge because I was monitoring it's reddit statistics and saw the enormous growth rate approaching litecoin. I knew that would be and indicator of it's success, becasue in my mind I model a crypto like a ponzi scheme. Except, really even regular money is a ponzi scheme. It needs two things to gain and maintain value.

A regular growing userbase

And a power projection mechanism.

Reddit is great in growing the userbase. The meme greatly would aide in grabbing users. Tipping and donating to the Jamaican bobsled team and attracting free talent to develop apps and stuff for the coin is like the power projection. It has everything. I knew as soon as dogecoin was getting tons of shit submitted on dogecoindev and the jamacan bobsled team initiative was launched the coin would be huge. It was unique fresh and viral.

I'm not so sure how long it might last, but I am still mining it until I see something better. I put a few dogecoins into moolah.ch on the off chance it isn't a scam too. i think moolah is a scam, but if it isn't, i will be rich.

>>65155
this is wrong and shows how much of a fucking idiot you are. wanna be know it all

>>65460