/biz/ - Business & Finance

Buy ICX and BCPT

>>6442044
psst, fuck off pajeet.

not on my radar. I have a close group and don't thinking anyone touching those at the time

>>6442044
Will Wall Street save us from this bear?

>i'm a real trader

feel free to buy my bags when they hit ath.

srs tho. what firm? and what coins are the talk around there?

LARP. If you really work on the street name the worst and most ridiculed bank on social media

>>6442044
>Larping as a nepotistic Jew
The absolute state of /biz/

The question you should all be asking is - was the CNBC fud article coordinated with our bonuses. If you look at previous years did similar things occur? Also, look into who the reporter follows and communicates with. will give you much insight to our world

>>6442132
if you are really from wall street you would know that a ton of people are looking to just buy ethereum right now. only tokens/coins ive heard people buying is SPANK and DRGN.

Kek
>professional traders buying memecoins

Take a pic of ur work id OP or else larp.

>>6442133
Temporarily, this is the first year I don't hear optimism about BTC. I think BTC is not #1 by end of year

>>6442044

Have most of your coworkers talked about altcoins or are they just going to bitcoin?

>>6442207
you are correct, the #1 purchase will be eth.

>>6442206
What you're saying is I should be reading into CNBC's stellar SNEK segment too ya?

>>6442265
honestly eth is the hottest subject followed by btc. Only the large alts are mentioned but there are a few whales that study alts so there could be influx by those. I would say 5% of wall st. really deep dive into alts

>>6442350
Do you see ETH's marketcap overtaking BTC's?

>>6442319
Im saying the Korea article was coordinated. There is a reason why everything is on sale currently. Look at previous years around the same time. You will also get an idea of how the next month will look

>>6442350
Do you think CME futures contracts expiring on the 17th will have any effect?

I have 10 more minutes

>>6442451
Any one in wall st. talking about tron? There are alot of normies holding heavy bags

>>6442395
yes

>>6442431
no

Do you hear jews talking about the chink scam trx?

>>6442495
Not too much. They like Ripple (I don't)

Also, expect a big spike on binance and kucoin as those two exchanges sound like they will get the bulk of the volume

>>6442451
Do banks fear crypto?

>>6442570
Are they into BTC forks like diamond and gold?

>>6442535
posted above, even wall st knows TRX is a joke.

>>6442590
No, they embrace it. But watch out, they will all have a hand in crypto this year. They want to hold the strings. Stay weary of any crypto partnering with banks or supported by banks.

How does it feel to bow to the Jews?

>>6442608
nope

got about 5 more minutes.

>>6442715
will you poz my neg hole op? i need eth

>>6442715
what are your personal top picks, and will you spend all or part of your bonus on them?

what about your circle? what are they into?

>>6442662
My bank account doesn't mind :)

will they buy alts like Fun or XLM ?

You think riding the crypto wave with ~1K capital will be better than diversifying other fiat into ETF/SP500 funds?

only 5% into alts, ok. any name in particular, except eth?

>>6442044
Fuck off pajeet

>>6442715
Thanks for taking the time to answer. Last Q! Are Ycombinator backed projects like REQ and QSP on the radar? Maybe not yet...

>>6442044

Will you sign up at kucoin with my refcode?

226c6

>>6442763
Personal picks -
large cap - eth, neo
mid - req, link, kcs, qash
low - sphtx, cat, hpb

circle - they like - eth, ripple, link, kcs (they want dividends into dif cryptos without having to think. Expect some whale orders into this) req --

anyone talking about ACT?

>>6442825
xlm should pick up a little...not fun. Ive heard from a few xlm unfortunately i havent bought in and havent researched yet.

>>6442848
yes. We all expect sp500 to enter bear market. Look into commodities - oil, gold for some gains in 2018. Avoid sp500.

>>6442909
Big time! even qsp

>>6443024
How soon should I cash out my Bluechip stock then? I'm hoping to pull ~66K out before shit ready tanks, but also wanna wait on MSFT/APPL earnings

>>6442928
>kcs
Yes, wall street is buying a dodgy chink exchange coin that appears to be exit scamming right now and has already x20 in 3 weeks.
OP is pumping his kcs bags. Hope you pajeets dont fall for it.

>>6442912
this will be kucoins year. Wall st loves the KCS structure

What is Wallstreets opinion on whether crypto is in a bubble or not and if it will burst soon? Is Wallstreet mostly bullish or bearish?

>>6443114
you are talking to a pajeet in india.

>>6443091
Keep an eye on fed notes. Also, the fed will keep raising interest rates. Trump is the "fall guy"

I would have good portion moved by march.

>>6442044

Thanks for answering all these questions. Shill some ELIX if you find the time. Hope you and your circle have an awesome year.

>>6442656
Wrong.

Banker here. Very wary

>>6443114
Last year it seemed like wall st consensus was btc was in a bubble..not so much now that the price has come down and dominance is atl.

There is still $ to be made in alts. Our only concern is what is going to happen to crypto when stock market collapses (most likely this year) good or bad for crypto? yet to be seen

>>6442928
>low - sphtx, cat, hpb

Weird, it seems like there's a certain subset of people, an overlap between those that like SPHTX and HPB. Patricians.

>>6443183
I'm honestly thinking of cashing out and stuffing it all under a mattress

What do you think will drive the bear market? Student debt defaulting? Or fed fucking with interest rates going to be the primary cause?

>>6443203
I own some...haven't spoke to anyone with it on their radar.

>>6442044
What can i do with an econ degee

>>6443211
not only embrace it every bank wants a piece of the pie. Where are you a teller?

>>6443253
lmfao. a stock market crash would send crypto down 90% overnight.

So the ZOG wants a piece of the crypto pie? :)

>>6442044
Hey OP,
Come join the 4chan stock discord chatroom.
got a bunch of pro's, we'd love to have you.

Open for all by the way, no gimics.
discord.me/xavier

how high do you think eth will go this year?

>Be bank
>Make cryptocurrency
>Pour billions and billions into marketing, shill it everywhere, make it sound like the next big thing
>Make billions in Bitcoin
>Repeat 50 more times with new coins every month
>You now own most of the Bitcoin
>Dump all the fucking Bitcoin

>>6443287
Do you think it's likely the WS crowd will do their research on alts once they get a bit more into crypto? Or are they just going to dump into the top 10 and see what happens. I'm wary about having this perception of bankers as normies, as they're stupid, are well connected, and most likely have friends who work in tech that have been raving about this shit for months.

>>6443281
oh man...don't get me started..
I don't want to sound like peter schiff.

Most likely - Inflation is going to get out of hand. Interest rates will skyrocket...and boom

Will they pump mincoin?

>>6443360
very possible

>>6443424
>they're stupid
they're not stupid*

>>6442044
Hey WallStreet person. What kind of cryptos do you look to invest in? Ones that advance blockchain tech? Offer services like logistics?

Help a poorfag become rich. Which coins will you heavily invest in? That way I can ride your wave to being less poor.

>>6443409
Not sure, the feeling i get around wall st is its the next btc. I already think its archaic but wall st late to the crypto party as usual

>>6442928

>qash
>my nigga

>>6443437
How bad is housing going to get fucked?

Just started some development work out in the Midwest and don't want a get fucked

>>6443477

What will they put their money into? Crypto will be more accessible in the coming months before the stock crash.

Digital assets might be a very good store of value.

>>6443424
yes, wall st loves to analyze. All they need to do is invest in eth and I expect $ to start to flow to promising alts as they learn.

>>6443532
Tell them to invest in mincoin. EZ x1000

>>6443579
Thoughts on GVT?

>>6442044
Any thought on BAT op? Am I retarted for wanting to sell my few shares of google to by BAT because I think bat will take a large share of google ad revenue

>>6443532
thanks, makes sense.

most of my money is in the stock market. what should I move it into to hedge against a correction/recession? t bills? every time I tell my asshole merrill broker I want to move out of the stock market, he refuses to give me any advice of where to go (because what I have now has high fees).

Do you reckon it's probable crypto will be a safe haven in the event of a stock market crash?

>>6443573
>How bad is housing going to get fucked?

A lot, hopefully.

>>6443505
I look at real world companies and see where they are leaning. The key to most of the alts success is real world partnerships.

>>6443557
extremely undervalued

>>6443573
housing is toast and ill explain why. Housing prices are based on 8 years of 0% interest rates. Expect 6-7% interest rates this year - people are not going to be able to afford shit...demand will bottom out and bring housing down with it. If you don't own a home have some liquidity ready and you should be able to get a deal end of 18

>>6443713
Why raise interest on mortgages if it's known that it's going to fuck everything up?

>>6443713
That makes sense. Makes me excited as someone looking to buy in Seattle's bubble market, but nervous af as someone pushing money into a housing development in the Midwest

Ah well. At least my 9 - 5 is comfy. Thanks for sharing the insight Anon! I'll def be keeping this in mind as I adjust my financial planning

>>6443399
Damn, awesome.
Thanks dude

>>6443573
didn't see the part about midwest. Midwest will be safest place. I own many developments and housing in midwest - nashville / chattanooga.

>>6443617
haven't researched but will

>>6443656
researched but didn't get in..may regret

>>6443689
hopefully. If it does enter crash/beat territory with stock market expect the mother of all rallies after.

>>6443689
>Do you reckon it's probable crypto will be a safe haven in the event of a stock market crash?

No. Crypto is only safe in the event of the US, EU and JP defaulting on their debt.

Think of it like this. If the stock market crashes, would you rather spend money on speculative coins or real companies that'll whether the economic storm.

>>6443713
>>Expect 6-7% interest rates this year

This would destroy a lot more then the housing market. Everything is fucked if this happens, especially frackers,

>>6443845
If you study economics you will understand that keeping 0% interest rates for too long creates bubbles which it did. Naturally interest rates have to go up. Theres no escaping higher interest rates at this point.

>>6443850
seattle - fucked

>>6443891
>>Think of it like this. If the stock market crashes, would you rather spend money on speculative coins or real companies that'll whether the economic storm.

Boomer NoCoiner salty fag alert repeat
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Crypto is the future and we are going to take out the joooooosssss with it Mr smol brain.

Joking state of biz.

>>6443965
Fortunately I rent in Seattle. Don't own shit in this China bubble of a city yet. Hopefully the bear market helps me get my first house.

>>6443896
the writing is on the wall. Everyone on wall st sees trump as the fall guy. The market will collapse on his term and before the next election cycle.

guys about to go..ill answer any other questions that pop up right now.

>>6444110
pls respond >>6443684

worth messing with long term bond/stock allocation right now?

>>6444110
so get in gold/silver? know of any good mining companies?
Little bro worked for Ray Dialo btw.

>>6444129
fuck merrill. Not sure the size of your portfolio but if you are under 1mil I would just open an account at vanguard. They have extremely low fees and you probably dont need a broker.

>>6444110
Hen you said end of 18 with liquidity do you mean wait a little while and have money on hand basically?
I'm starting to really want to buy something, but it wouldn't be until later 2018 at the earliest anyway. I'm stupid and want to ensure I understood to wait and have money ready.

>>6444191
holding physical is good but not completely necessary. GDXJ will be solid this year.

>>6442928
quick yes or no question; thoughts on the rumors that the major players will be on LINK this year?

How likely can I beat the market for a year or two if I am not a fucking idiot? Shouldn't be super hard as long as the market is not crashing right? Its not as hard as people say right???

>>6444110
One last Q: After i liquidate my 50K long term grants from my job, do I just go ETF? Hold until the market drops and buy the firesale? Just starting to build my stacks (age 25) and not wanting to get ass blasted by the Boomer panic

Are you the same Dutch LARPing faggot from the other day?

So should I just go all in on ETH and rebuy alts later?

>>6442928
funny, you have really similar picks to me. I like Qash a lot too, I should really get around to getting on gate.io to buy.

>>6444049

Poorfag NEET salty about not being able to afford real assets alert
Poorfag NEET salty about not being able to afford real assets alert
Poorfag NEET salty about not being able to afford real assets alert
Poorfag NEET salty about not being able to afford real assets alert
Poorfag NEET salty about not being able to afford real assets alert

Crypto is a pajeet scam.

>>6444216
if your'e talking about housing. Avoid housing at all costs right now. Interest rates are going up!

just realized this convo turned away from crypto...haha

Toughts on EU stocks ? Especially french ones

>>6444110
Any thought on VeChain?

>>6444410
This is far more interesting than neetbucks desu

>>6444410
Yeah housing. I'm sleeping in my car and don't know when to buy something. Should I just rent an apartment or something later in the year and see what happens? Why would higher interest rates be bad? Wouldn't that mean I buy something as soon as possible before interest rates rise?

There's more to finance than crypto. Like helping advise stupid poor people like me.

convince your buddies to pump xlm please lol. mention ibm

>>6444343
YES! Link is going to be giant

>>6444352
if you are in the market go with commodities, also good foreigns - singapore, new zealand, australia. no more than 20% sp500

>>6444370
eth could be a safe play. QASH will be big.

This is my last post!

>>6444542
It means you're paying more for the loan. Money is about to get more expensive, so real estate will suffer big time

>>6444394
Dude was joking, I am pretty much a poor fag neet, do own house, have part time job, rent out rooms in house live in garage so can pursue dream of being art fag. less then 2 % of assets in crypto.

>>6442044
Do they have Japanese style toilets in the offices on wallstreet?

>>6444542
Another wallst anon here...when interest rates rise the "present value" of your assets decrease. Housing impacted assymetrically.

>>6444574
>YES! Link is going to be giant

for the love of god please be real

>>6444542
ok this is my last post because i feel bad for this guy

interest rates go up - affordability goes down = prices go down. You get in with high interest rate and low prices. NExt few years interest rates will go back down (they will need to lower again to spur the market) at this point you refinance your low cost home with a low cost FIXED interest rate.

Now you have a low cost home and low cost financing.

>>6444574
thanks for your time and for making biz great again

>>6444574
>YES! Link is going to be giant

Not that this wasn't obvious but always gets me wet hearing stuff like this about LINK.

>>6444574
>>6444660
actually now that I'm invested in this I need someone to comfort me: can anyone confirm/disconfirm OP's authenticity based on what he said so far?

>>6444678
>>6444574
Yeah thanks ANON

Are any companies genuinely scared of crypto and fear that it will replace their business?

>>6442044
I want to work on Wall Street someday. What degree should I get? Also, what’s the feeling on LTC this year amongst wallstfags?

>>6442044
You're not a real investor if you aren't invested in PPT or VERI

>>6444744
why would he lie on biz?

>>6444744
Based on his answers I have high confidence op works on wallst

>>6444860
Very few anons get this. My bags are filled with these two.

>>6442044
Besides ETH and BTC, what are some of the coins/tokens WS seems interested in?

>>6442497
lmao

>>6444846
Double major something technical + finance. Example - engineering and finance double major/pre-med + finance

Stop larping

>>6444744
This is 4chan so it could be a LARP

That said, his advice was wise and rather conservative. My gut tells me to keep this info in mind as I continue to research my next market positions. The talk on topics outside of crypto was particularly good.

>>6444860
>>6444905

What does PPT and VERI trying to do? Reddit hasn't shill them so I haven't heard about them.

>>6444970
I work on wallst and have confidence that op is legit

>>6444744
I know people that works in the wall street of my country, and I don't think they would have time to research coins like HPB and new one like SPHTX.

But the fact that they mentioned Singapore as burgeoning market means they know their stuff. So I don't know about wall street, but they seem like they know stuffs.

>>6444904
he sounds like any larping econ student. nothing particularly impressive

>>6444744
OP is larping.

People tell you otherwise are probably heavily vested in the projects he "subtly" shilled. Don't fall for this obvious LARP.

Source: Quant on an HFT team at a GS

>>6445016
i too work on walls of streets. op is correct and legit no pajitee her

what about EOS OP?

>>6445016
I'm leaning in that direction myself. His non-crypto advice was particularly good. I definitely don't think I'll be hurting if I listen to him

>>6445183
oh, he's gone :( I'm excited about tomorrow

>>6445170
Rather than your source I'd be more interested in hearing about what gave him away for you

>>6445170
okay, so what are your opinions on the questions he answered?

No way Trump will let the ZOG crash the stock market under his nose, it will DIP for sure but not like previous times.

Actual wall street fag here .

1/15/18 is a bank holiday in the U.S. Anyone receiving a mid-January paycheck/bonus was likely already paid this past Friday, and certainly not getting paid tomorrow.

>>6445501
I can confirm Jan 15 is just hype. My group is expecting carried interest checks by the end of Jan.

>>6445613
I'm waiting for the 16th so I can send another wire

I'm not sure if I should wait for the bear market to continue, or immediately buy in on some of my positions.

>>6444984
PPT replaces factoring companies and VERI replaces wall street

>>6445501

This. My bank paid me Friday.

I work in M&A

>>6443420
uhm, have you heard about Ripple?

Is op a larp or no? Hard to tell anymore on this place

buy Snovio

Lmao fuck your bonuses
I want to know which way most are gonna go when rhe future contracts expire on the 18th

Part of me wants to believe OP is who he says he is. The other part of me thinks he just wants us to buy his kuckcoin bags.

Could be both.

If the stock market crashes there's a couple of things that would be really fun to see:

>People that have been coping by calling Crypto's a bubble getting btfo by stock bubble bursting before crypto
>Trump & Trumplets being eternally BTFO
>HOPEFULLY traders, funds etc pouring their money in crypto (although it's probably more likely that crypto will get completely annihilated aswell.)

>>6444930
SPHTX, HPB, DRGN

So when is the stock market most likely to crash? Is q4 around september-october a good estimate?

Here's my question:

When will you kill yourself, you larping faggot?

Not working on wallstreet but in a big hedge fund. OP was obviously larping if he belives the interest rates are going to be increased to 6-7%. This wont happen in the next years.

OP: What time will they get their bonuses? I know a lot of people mentioned Jan 15 but WHAT TIME?

>>6445235
Why excited about tomorrow? Any EOS news coming?

>>6445501
We should kill 4 more kangz and get the whole week off IMO

>>6447648

Zero proof. Answers that anyone could have given.
Either a poor LARP, or this guy should be fired.

>>6445394
Nice just bought 100k gold

Actual Wall St wagecuck banker here. Commodities analyst at Goldman for 2 years. OP is full of shit and here's why:

1. Tomorrow is a national bank holiday. Everyone in my department already got their mid-January bonuses on Friday. The "January Effect" happened yesterday when ETH climbed up to $1440.

2. If you work on Wall St, you're already pretty well off. I'm making $80k before taxes just 2 years into my career. We have enough liquidity to put into crypto regardless of our bonus check. Those of us who are investing in crypto have already invested, and a few thousand dollars bonus isn't going to make us pour money into crypto.

3. If you think alts are going to moon, you're wrong. 99% of us are normies. Nobody in Wall St is talking about your Chinacoins or 3m market cap moonshots. The only coins that get discussed are Bitcoin, Ripple and more recently, Ethereum.

Stop your fucking larping and misinformation OP.

>>6449163
>>6446915
>>6446159
>>6445613
Good goy self identifying. This shareblue thread has been designed to detect normies. Now you must leave or face the peepeepoopoo

>>6449163

ACTUAL Wall St bank boss here. Don't listen to this gamma male. All we talk about is fuckin LINK and how fat our sacks are.

>>6449163
more money into btc and eth means other holders pour more of their btc and eth into value alts u retard such is the state of wall st

>>6442044

Dp you think enigma is a good pick ?

>>6446190
OP is not LARPing. He's just a shit tier bottom bucket analyst.

>>6449462

When BTC/ETH moons, alts go down. Did you start trading crypto yesterday?

>>6442207
wait until they realize VEN is the coin actually doing enterprise business with megabillion customers

jim breyer did

>>6445170
No LARP, probably just works at fucking NOMURA

>>6449666
Thanks Satan digits

>>6444846
THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS A contrived SHILLPOST LARP lol reads like an editorial.

>>6449163
>$80k before taxes
lmao nigga im 20 and made more money than that in 6 months in crypto

General question for the thread... How do I avoid getting dicked on fees?

I got slapped with $20 in fees just for moving my bitcoin from coinbase to binance. I heard ETH is cheaper?

>>6450176

I'm sure a lot of early investers did. Unfortunately I only started investing in crypto mid-December. I'm not bragging about my salary, just giving a figure so people can put that into perspective.

>>6450243
Google it you lazy ape.

>>6450587

>>6450243
Use the real Bitcoin (BCH)

LARP faggot

it's going to take a few days for all that money passing through the slowpoke bank transfers. The altocaust is postponed a little.

Crypto is very volatile. Some major bad news could crash crypto market. I'm afraid when we enter a strong bear maket for crypto's the whole stock market will be pulled down with it. (since it's also been very bullish for a long time now) Thoughts?