/biz/ - Business & Finance

Do I swap my XLM for VEN for 48 hours or so?

Venbros will I make it with 1k.

>>6311673
>do i swap liquid feces for solid gold

>>6311720
get more money, use that money to ride moon missions, dump the profit into ven until you have 5k ven

>>6311775
i tried this
can now afford way less ven than i could before
dont recommend

>>6311628
I think the rebranding is going to happen this weekend.

Day trading small swing all day feels good, gained an extra 190 VEN. got 11k feeling comfy

>>6311673
>for 48 hrs

Nigga, you should be all in

>>6311823
can’t wait to see the results!

>>6311823
What makes you say that?

For what? Or not? Might go higher. Okay?

Just bought another 2k VEN.

Sitting pretty

>>6311854
why? got any ta?

>poorfag with only 150 VEN

Not going to make it

>>6311673
you can't beat the market, hold, thank me later

aka. you are thinking about selling low and buying high...

I sleep like a baby.

>>6312103
GIVE ME YOUR VEN

>>6312103
nice brother

>>6312103

>muh sekrit club

>>6312103

>>6312103
Nicely done.

>>6311848
how do you do that

i just dont understand the concept fully

>>6312103
>muh secret research group

>>6312236
he's lying

>daytrading the literal institutuonal investor chad coin

Good luck with that unless you get autistic with volume profiles and know how to weight orders to cover your ass. Node here, I might consider selling some if Sunny decides it's time to leave Humanity behind. Until then, I'm fine with making a few grand every day staking.

Who here /strengthnode/? Just crossed the 10k barrier and got mine.

>>6312420
I'm selling everything above my thunder node the instant it hits $150.

>>6312341
Yeah but some people actually do it. He's just asking what the process is.
I have no fucking clue so I'm not gonna try to give an answer

>>6312438
I'm close. Need a few hundred more. How much you lads think their gas token will be worth?

>>6312704
30-50% of the main token

>>6312704

the math on the node rewards has already been done

THOR isn't going to be worth shit, and it would take literal decades to make up your investment in the node at current prices

it made sense to stock up for a node back when ven was 25 -50 cents, but not now..

let me see if I can find the article

>>6311720
I hope so cuz it's all I got. I think it's a good amount

>>6312803
go on reach up in to your ass and pull out the article that is going to be total fact.

>>6312803
>buy 10,000 ven for 20 cents each
>ven becomes worth $100
>thor becomes worth 30-50 dollars
>you btfo

someone link the VET calculator pl0x

>>6312853

>https://medium.com/@mitchellnz/an-unbiased-review-vechain-d24e4d69b9c0

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/7p7ssy/i_created_a_fundamental_quantitative_valuation/

>>6312924
literally not how it works


to both of you, maybe "not worth shit" has a different meaning than it does to me

if you want to generate ~10-30 bux a day on a stack worth 180k-300k....then good for you, I wish you the best of luck

oh and venchain reserves the right to change the calculation for thor production at any time, in case it starts destablizing the market in the way they don't want

t. 8k stack and doesn't give a fuck about THOR

>>6312236
>i just dont understand the concept fully
If you watch the charts like a madman, occasionally you'll see someone dump a fat stack. So you sell part of your shit and wait for all of the vultures to drive the price down while they keep under-bidding each other. Quick little dump. Then at the bottom, you buy all your coin back plus some.

If there is any sort of gap between buy and sell (say people selling at .120 but buy orders are in at .110) you can sometimes buy and sell at the same time. Put in a sell order at .119, buy order at .111. If the volume is right you'll catch people dumping into your .111 but still be selling at .119, raking up tiny tiny profits.

It's risky as hell, though. If you sell too much hoping for a dip and that dip never comes you've just given away free money then post pink wojaks all afternoon watching the stack you just sold for 50 cents thinking you were clever keep mooning to $1. (Then finally adjusting back to 80 cents... and you still can't buy back in.)

$100 by June

break 50k agen pls

>>6313104
Here is the thing. The first guy is a literal walton shill and the second put a lot of work into it and clearly knows what he is doing.

However I trust Jim Breyer more than I trust either of them.

>>6313104
The price of VEN will be higher, imo. However, the price of THOR concerns me since I have enough for a strength node.

What do?

>>6313104
>https://medium.com/@mitchellnz/an-unbiased-review-vechain-d24e4d69b9c0
that guys a fucking retard and doesn't account for the fact that 70% of all Thor power used will be burned. also the second guys graph is retarded and his adoption rates are way too fucking slow

Minimum needed for staking?

>>6314678
10k for a node

New CC kid

>>6314678
no minimum to stake but u get extra if you have enough for a node

what's a good buy in price for VEN? obviously at ATH now.

>>6314992
6.00-6.50 would probs be the best you can hope for now

>>6312103
You're a millionaire in a year. Congrats.

35k VEN here, am i going to make it?

>>6312924


The math isn't even hard.

This took like a minute.

considering ven, but can only free up around 1k, so only enough for around 150... this would make up 40% of portfolio, do or no do at 6.5??

>>6315589
Seems to be holding pretty well and finding a new floor every day, fuck it I'm in.

>>6311628
what's the minimum you're needed to stake to produce THOR for yourself?

>>6315798

1
Bonus % starts at 10k tho

>>6311800
What a pleb. Should have bought UFR.

What do we do about massive sell walls on chinese coins?

>>6312103
hot damn

>>6312103
Hey man what app are you using? Love the layout.

>>6315448

thanks for this

its up you if you really want to hold a 100k node for 10.4k a year....

>>6311673
i tried with 2/3 of mine and i'ts backfiring dammit

c'mon VET XLM starting without ya

>>6315908

accumulate more and enjoy steady growth without a massive crash every day?

>>6311901
website is "down"

>>6315448
You're assuming here that you're buying a node outright at this given price and it remains stagnant at that price. Yes, 9.61/14.57 years to break even is a long time.

However lets say I bought a strength node at ~$3.0. Initial input of $30000. Let's assume a THOR value of $3 (The lowest you assume); that's $6,865.65/year, which means breaking even after 4.37 years.

I'd be pretty happy with a passive income of almost $7000/year. It would require literally no work on my part. And anything higher than $3/thor (you're most conservative guess) is even better.

>>6316044
Damn. Never thought of it like that.

https://twitter.com/CocaColaKid_OG/status/951675719108751360

This is why Sunny is going to be a major player in crypto. Intelligent, funny, and able to explain complex topics simply.

>>6315959
Delta, best app

>>6314678
I think it is 10k and you have to keep it in the wallet that they will roll out (mainly to keep people from locking the price of the coin).

In big as well. This thing will be my ticket to the promised land

>>6316188
It's comforting to see other people going all in like this.

>>6316089

It doesn't matter where you invested.

Assuming VEN is 1k. You could either sell the node for 10mil right then or make 1mil per year.


With 10mil in cash I could probably easily make more than 1mil per year investing in other cheap cryptos/stocks.

>>6316117
he's my favorite guy

>>6316285
I see what you're saying. Maybe it's personal preference. I'll take the $1 million/year passive income over the $10 million sell.

>>6316120
Thanks man!

Ven instead of UFR? lul

>>6315589
would you buy ETH at 15 bucks today or NEO at 7

>>6316367
I literally get a green ID in every single Vechain thread wew lads I think its finally my time to make it after all this time

>>6315973
100k.. next week

200k .. end of month

500k ... june

1 mil ... eoy

yeah i think he'll be ok holding it to make 100k on THOR a year on top of the mil at the EOY

>>6316367
how do we protect him

can we convince him to wear a bubble wrap suit

can we pay THOR bodyguards

can we get him a food taster

we must protect our investment

Fucking hell my entire portfolio is down (XRB, LINK, APPC). Should I just bail and go all-in to VEN while it's low?

>>6317134
You've been given a massive amount of time to buy in by the gracious whales suppressing the price. Don't miss this opportunity.

https://youtu.be/_xgDeBuFdvs?t=2610

>>6317134
the wise man is not stubborn

the wise man cuts his losses and joins the winning team

the wise man retires on thor

>>6317134
i am teasing around with this price since there aren't many buy orders..

now is a good time to get in because i will get tired soon

- ven beluga

>>6316426
Locking 10 million in the fucking crypto world to recieve 1 million yearly. You have to be insane

>>6317774
That guy is dumb. But obviously it wouldn't be 1 million yearly, the price will appreciate so it'll increase each year which would make it more worth than taking the 10 mil lump sum immediately.

>>6317774
no shit, id cash that 10 mil out and live off the 100-300 grand income it makes a year

>>6312103
How'd you find out about the gold mine so early? Surely it wasn't this shithole.

>>6317774
he can get a loan off crypto by then, or just spend the THOR thru a fiat mixer, it won't be the same world we live in today

turn down 10 million equity and 1 million passive income to cash out for fiat?

are YOU insane?

>>6317883
>>6317883
>>6317883
hes part of a super secret research group of circle jerking whales he was explaining in a thread other night

>>6317190
>>6317422
>>6317468
Just dropped my LINK and APPC bags for this, will sell everything else once Shitgrail withdraws aren't down.

Thanks lads.

>>6317878
that's stupid. crypto is the future, he's banking 10million equity and getting a massive return on that equity AND cash flowing on a tiny investment.

he can get loans and get into the fiat world and buy real estate etc backed by crypto then. he can use real estate or business income from those loans to pay the loans. this is how you create real wealth - leverage and passive income.

greenbacks are old brick and mortar shit

>>6317981
welcome the Ven Brotherhood

>>6311628
>ENG
>ICX
>BAT
>LTC
>XLM

These are my holds. Which ones do I trade for VEN?

>>6318074
LTC

>>6317934
Cool.
Fuck him until I can be him.

>>6318088
Alright, thanks.

>>6318074
All of them

>>6318074
LTC and BAT. Fuck it, on second thought all of them.

m-m-m-m-m-mommyyyyy its crashing again

>>6316117
Buy the dip.

>>6318705
MOOOOM PLEASE NO NOT THE SLIPPER

>>6318705
lol bought in at 9k sats so I don't even notice if it dips or not

>>6318908
where do you guys think the bottom is? I want to buy in on this dip

>>6318705
Anon went all-in >>6317981

Dump it.

Why are we not talking about the significance of this? It basically confirms that CCK is an insider and everything he's predicting will come true

https://twitter.com/CocaColaKid_OG/status/951675719108751360

>>6319343
because /biz/ is shit now

People who bought in at sub $0.20

How did you come across it? Were you shilled that early? Are you just a VERY thorough researcher? Show me your ways.

>>6318705
Hope you bought the dip

>>6319467
it was never shilled here until at least 80 cents

I first came across it on Liqui probably 2-3 months ago. People in the trollbox said it was better than walton and had amazing partnerships. Other people said it was scam. I bought it at 30 cents and sold it a few days later. Never did any research

>>6319467
I saw it shilled on bitcointalk in mid October. researched it for a few weeks and bought on October 31, 20 cents

>>6319467
You find gems like Ven by researching thoroughly while theyre under the radar. PwC partnership wouldve been the first sign of something potwntially big. Basically DYOR, ignore the FUD, hold a coin for more than a month and you'll make bank

>>6319637
I saw it here at 40 cents but that was a better time for /biz/

>>6319343

Significance of this?

>>6319918
have you been keeping up at all? jeez anon

Did any of you even see the medium article of his latest lecture? Hot fucking air.

Once normies realize IOTA is a better, western version of VEN, cmon. In fact if you missed the VEN ramp you can still catch the IOTA. VEN's success is IOTA's success - it all comes down if you believe in Sunny vs IOTA's team.

Ok quick question. I read their Medium article about THOR and how it'll work

https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-apotheosis-part-ii-thor-power-forged-974111a93278

Will people that generate THOR be able to sell THOR on exchanges, much like NEO's GAS token?

>>6320079
yes

>>6320079

Vechain will release a wallet sometime after rebrand in which you store your VET so you can generate thor like Neon wallet for NEO/GAS

>>6320016
waltcuck

>>6320107
>>6320134

Ok, so I am able to sell THOR on say Binance (since you can buy VEN there). If that is the case, won't the price of THOR keep increasing (like GAS)? Would this not torpedo their plans to have THOR always be an affordable utility token? I get that they can tweak the algorithm to increase/decrease the amount of THOR generated, which *may* drive the price down, but won't the price inherently keep going up as the price or VET increases.

>>6319944

No I mean who's the person in the video that CCK says is near sunny? Can't watch right now.

Do I put $5K into this right now? VET is happening in the next month isn't it? Surely the price will be up when that happens

should i just dump my $6K worth of bnty right now and go all in on this?

i'm trying to get at least $10K out of bnty but starting to fomo about this coin as it's where i want to be this year for sure

*does nothing*

>>6320354
dreamweavers

>>6319637
I shilled it at .20

I will admit I assumed it was just a much better value than WTC at the time in supply chain

but that lead me to dig deeper and learn it was much much much much more

and the partnerships belew my mind been buying ever since including today.. and asian coins just weren't sexy

don't hesitate. you will let this one get away.

>>6320372
>>6320396

I would, honestly. If the rebranding is as hot as they say, the CocaCola kid continues dropping fire and the PBoC rumor is true then the sky is the limit

10$ EOM, easy

>>6311628
Realistically how much can i get for $10k buy by EOY my guys

>>6320473
$20 EOM easy without PBOC

PBOC is $100 overnight

Besides VEN I'm also in ICX and DCB. Should I trade those for more VEN? Why are all of these groups so confident? I don't know who will come out on top.

>>6320520
400k

>>6320520
$100-$250-$500 with THOR rewards around $20-$50$-$100 (best guess).

partnerships alone should already have this coin at $50

>>6320404
>zKSdi/ku
>stays poor

>>6320536
ICX is a solid investment as well as VEN probably the two best pound for pound

>>6320536

chadfolio

>>6320569
you're talking dollar amount per day from rewards?

EOY

bullish (pboc is true):
>$500-1,000

bearish (pboc isn't true):
>$100-500

>>6320336
THOR is consumed with each transaction 70% burned and 30% distributed to top tier masternodes. Each transaction on the bloackchain costs THOR.

>>6320680
no, those are predictions for VET price and then THOR price

nothing is guaranteed, but i think those #'s are very conservative with this godcoin

>>6320752
How will the price of THOR be valuated? My understanding is that there is an infinite amount of THOR.

https://twitter.com/CocaColaKid_OG/status/951675719108751360 spot the whales in this vid

>>6321272
$50 confirmed.

>>6321096
Thor price will be determined by the market. 70% of Thor used gets burned 30% goes to 250k nodes I think

Its not a lot but I am hoping for big rewards.

T.thirdworlder

god dammit i'm all in on bnty and it's tanking but i know for a fact the second i fomo into ven bnty will moon to 1 dollar and i'll have gotten half the ven i should have.

>>6322119
life must be rough

>>6322182
Not the worst in the world , turned R1000 in to 3, 6k just lucky picks I guess .

Ven needs to do a 1000x and id be way better off

>>6316511
Collecting points, so you dont get kicked from your shit discord group, anon?

>>6319918
Alibaba CEO

>>6323002
>tfw 25k VEN

>>6323002
is he really?
Fuck, PBoC, BMW, Alibaba.
100 usd might be too little.

>>6324031
if pboc is real we're looking $500-1,000

>>6324078
And if it's not real, we're still looking at $30 - $50

>>6324078
Srs question, when do you think those prices will happen? EOY? EOM?

>>6324109
$100-500 you mean

>>6324149
IF the partnerships are confirmed and are as large-scale as they are alluded to be,

IF the crypto market doesn't undergo serious regulation

Then within 2 years I think we would see VEN for more than $200

no pboc = $100-500 by EOY

pboc = $500-1,000 by EOY

>>6324182
lmao kys you low balling pessimistic walton cuck.

>2 years
what is exponential growth

>serious regulation
its already been reassured that china has no plans to regulate it like nazis

>>6312236
Buy high sell low

>>6324237
I literally have a thunder node...
I'm just trying to be realistic

poorfag here but i bough ta bit of ven please pray for me

>>6325335
We're going to make it.

>>6314678
1 VEN

but at 10k you get a hefty bonus