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Probably the initial wow. But people mirin your car never gets old.

I'd be sick of it as soon as I sobered up.

There's only one way to find out

>>630390

>tfw a friend bought a lambo in cali
>lambo in cali

he got sick of it on day 1

>>630404

Why? (I'm not from USA)

>>630406

He probably saw 20 more that same day

>>630390
i'd rather get this car and 300000 worth of crystal meth

the value of the car will hold better over time, relatively speaking

The reason why this statement is likely to be true is because your cant use the cars power outside of Germany (is there any other country with highways that lack a speed limit?).

Which means, this car doesnt do anything for you but make your dick a few inch longer. Its not practical, especially in crowded cities it would probably be better to just take the subway, drive a Smart or take a cab and on top of that it costs a shit ton of money on a monthly basis (taxes, insurance, gas). Oh, and its impossible to brag with it half the time because its impossible to carry a car around with you. A $50,000 Kiton suit or $100,000 watch will probably serve the purpose of bragging way better than a car.

>>630390
I think that it would be stressful as fuck , when i bought my first car ( Used audi A4) I was worrying all the time about all the things that could happen to it ,

I would think that having a lambo would be a hell if you´re not rich enough to not care about what could happen to it

>>630543

These cars are a dime a dozen at this point and will draw just as much attention as a lambo. 450hp in a 2000lb car... wind in your hair.. what's not to like?

infact... probably more positive attention, and less "look at that fucking lambo douchebag" attention.

Hold their value very well as well.

Cars are funny like that. Some cars are really hot and great cars.. but other cars that are just as hot and just as great, can be SOOOO much cheaper while being just as much fun (opinion may vary here - just depends on what you HAVE TO HAVE and how much money you have to play with)

Personally, when I hit a half million in wealth, I bought myself a cobra instead of a lambo. I don't regret it. Maybe I'll move up to the lambo when I hit 1 or 2 mill in cash...

>>630547
Good thing I live there! 8D

>>630547
Implying bitches know the value of any watch LOL
I've worn Armani suits and I got compliments only from men, no homo

>>630547
>$50,000 Kiton suit

Enjoy wearing it for three hours before it looks worn out!

And it won't look better than a $10,000 bespoke suit, honestly.

>>630595
Bitches know Rolex at least, but it won't cost $100,000.

In my experience, men give compliments straight away for any good suit, while women will give a compliment maybe after 10 or 15 times they see you in a top-class suit (like: "...you're always so well dressed!").

>>630596
The point is that you can brag about it at any given time. You can hardly do that with a car.

>>630595
Who cares about women?! You dont buy a Lambo to impress chicks, you buy it to make your coworkers jealous. However, this only lasts so long.

>>630603
>women will give a compliment maybe after 10 or 15 times
Because they dont understang shit about suits and ACTUAL tailoring. They are under the impression that some dress involves as much effort as a fully canvassed suit. If you buy anything to impress women youre a lost cause anyway.

Never buy stuff because of other people. Only buy things you deem worth the money. Unless youre a highclass lawyer, then youre kinda forced to buy expensive suits. But since it serves a purpose (people will perceive you more positively and probably treat you with more respect) this is something you will want to do anyway.

Might be another reason why people lose interest in sportscars so quickly. The vast majority probably buys one to brag about it, not because they actually are interested in the vehicle.

>>630568
>tryhard kit car instead of lambo

nice.

>>630596
"Bespoke" is a European thing. Just say "tailored".

>>630611

The other cool thing about a kit car cobra is that the only people that say "try hard kit car" are GUARANTEED to be the jealous people that don't own a car anywhere near as cool.

Thus it becomes an instrument which one can use to figure out who in the room is a total jealous loser, who will never get anywhere in life because everyone ends up hating him for his shit attitude in life.

>>630547
>is there any other country with highways that lack a speed limit?

The Isle of Man.

>>630390

That applies to everything, even a yacht.

I personally wouldn't be able to stand driving a lambo day-to-day. A lambo is essentially a LOOK-AT-ME car and it makes no sense to have it be your primary riding machine. Cars like the 911 have a similar prestige (While not as good) but can driven day to day.

If I had a lambo it would essentially be the "sunday" car. The one I drove if I was going to fuck bitches. Also
>implying a lambo isn't used exclusively to impress women
Any man worth impressing isn't going to be impressed by your car - more likely by what you do and how you came to afford a lambo.

>>630610
Women do notice high-quality clothing, but they just won't tell you about it. They don't want to sound needy or seduced too easily... Of course, they won't have an idea about the efforts required to make a bespoke suit, but they see the difference (as we all do) between a sharp Cifonelli suit and your average Brooks Brothers sack, even if they can't vocalize why.

>>630612
But I am European and my suits are bespoke-made in Europe, not simply "tailored". The term bespoke implies a level of sophistication and fine craftsmanship only a few tailors can (or want to) reach.

>>630390
You won't get sick of your Lamborghini if you bought it for the right reasons (you truly appreciate good cars).

>>630711
>The term bespoke implies a level of sophistication
So in other words, horseshit. The word is overused and lost all meaning by now. Its just a word tailors throw out there to charge you more for a tailor-made suit.

When I'm loaded I'll buy a benz. Nice enough to be impressive but not nice enough to be super flamboyant. Until then, I'll be driving the Hyundai ;)

>>630715
You have no idea, because you never had a bespoke suit made in England or France, and you have no knowledge of this craftsmanship.

A bespoke suit means:

1) a pattern is made just for you and your small deformities,
2) thirty measurements or more are taken for optimal precision,
3) several fittings are done, at least three or four, to ensure a perfect fit,
4) there's extensive handwork an inferior tailor can simply not do,
5) conformity to your desires regarding details (even unusual) and the cut,
6) canvas and the best possible wools are used, including vintage wools or rare stuff like vicuna or even shahtoosh,
7) the master tailor will work and rework your suit until the result is perfect (up to 100 hours and more),
8) cleaning, ironing and alterations are done by your tailor for free and forever,
9) it looks superior and feels extremely light and comfortable,
10) it takes several months to be done and delivered.

Pic related, a true bespoke jacket you won't find in your average "tailoring" shop.

>>630751
So in other words... Anything a decent tailor worth his weight would do, and some extra b.s. thrown in so they can charge you extra money? Sounds about right.

>>630751
Start blogging about this shit. Youll make money.

>>630758
I've never seen a "decent tailor" reject arrogantly the superiority of the bespoke masters like you do. They're actually flabbergasted and humble when they see top-class clothing (and they admit that, no, they won't be able to make me pagoda shoulders and a hand-made milanaise on the lapel).

For example, this is a decent tailor dissecting with utter respect a $7,000 bespoke Smalto jacket. Check the details:

http://tutto
fattoama
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ute-couture.html

(Had to split the link because 4chan thinks it's spam)

>>630759
Will do, someday.

>>630751
All of this seems so useless. There's no practical advantage to it. What happens when you bulk or cut? Buy a new suit?

>>630810
Usually what you describe doesn't happen too fast and your tailor can adjust it... But yeah don't buy anything sur mesure if you plan to change your silhouette.

>>630810
>There's no practical advantage to it
What a statement. Youre fucking Einstein, arent you? Things need to have a 'practical' advantage to be worth the money. People who get these sort of suits appreciate the craftmenship. The same way there no practical use in buying a sportscar, expensive watch etc.

>What happens when you bulk or cut
No person with an actual job 'bulks'. Thats something mentally handicapped monkeys are kids around 20 do. If you have a proper job you dont even have the time to do this, let alone the energy and nerves. Not even gonna start on the fact how shot most people who lift look. I have been going to the gym for almost a decade now and everything I see these mountains of meat I ask myself how fucking retarded you have to be to consider this aestthic.

>>630751
>silly europeans think they are the only ones who know how to make and hand-tailor a quality suit
Topfuckingkek

>>630829
>everything I see these mountains of meat I ask myself how fucking retarded you have to be to consider this aestthic.
It's all subjective, the same can be said about your overdone suits. Who in their right mind spends hundreds of hours on a piece of cloth, or tens of thousands to own one etc. Normal people can't tell a difference, anyway. The same way you look down on lifting, I can look down upon your faggot fashion.

> If you have a proper job you dont even have the time to do this, let alone the energy and nerves.
You know, it's kinda the other way around. You don't have the energy because you lead a poor lifestyle. Being active and taking care of your eating habits let's you lead a more productive life.

> I have been going to the gym for almost a decade now
I suppose you've been wasting your time in there then.

Genuine question: Is the luxury garment business dying? Whenever I think of business suits, I think the entire industry must be on it's last legs. Like when men's hats died around the 1970s, I hardly see anyone dressed in a suit anymore.

Same thing with any luxury brands for men: watches, bracelets, shoes, etc.

>>630874
A gym is to stay fit, not to 'bulk up guys'. Show me a single successful businessman who isnt involved in sports whos actually bulky. Cant wait to see this.

You dont even seem to understand being bulky isnt equal to being fit. And if a person stays fit he rapidly lost or gain weight.

>It's all subjective
Its not. Maybe youre just misuing the term 'bulking up' but as soon as a person goes for mass he lost any sense of taste.

>>630960
I tailor I know recently told me that this is indeed the case. However, I dont really why. There are still a shit ton of profession where suits are common. Sure, in some its more casual suiting nowadatys, but thats still a market.

>>630715
Or ya know, bespoke furniture. Like Linley, Matthew Burt, Neville Johnson, etc.

>>630976
Yes, I figured so. I predict that soon *every* suit will either be custom or rented, because no off-the-rack stores could stay in business.

>>631095
Its actually sad because there are some really inspirational designers out there who actually try to do things a bit different yet keep it at a reasonable level. Paul Smith comes to mind. Bust to be honest, I think this development will shift rather soon. The more powerful and wealthy the asian countries become, the more stuff high class labels will sell. Asians are way more interested in showing wealth than white people. The industry wont vanish, but lets hope that it cuts a few shitty brands, the likes of Ed Hardy or Dolce and Gabbana for example. Fuck white cotton tshirts for $300.

>>630390

I think you would. Especially once you realize you could have bought:
1 Porsche Macan
1 Aston Martin Vanquish
1 Audi A7
1 Ford Fusion
1 Minicooper, any

And if you bought the Lambo just because you think OTHER people will validate you then you're a fucking faggot who deserves their inevitable buyers' remorse

>>631133

you're obviously talking about a top tier lambo and not a used gallardo...

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=30126&endYear=2016&modelCode1=GALLARDO&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1=LAM&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&searchRadius=25&showcaseListingId=0&mmt=%5BLAM%5BGALLARDO%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=391012645&Log=0

>>630751
I don't know much about suits but that one looks awful.

If you told me he got that from some thrift shop I would not give it any second thought.

I don't know much about a suit but the tie looks odd and out of place. The pattern is incredibly dull.

The color scheme is horrible. Brown and blue?

The fit looks mediocre. The man is pudgy and the waist is a little too tight. The pants look uneven.

Am I the only one?

>>631166
>>631166
>Am I the only one?

No you aren't, I haven't posted in this thread but I've been lurkin. His tie looks awfully shit for someone who makes suits and his color choice. Quite frankly, he has shit taste,

>spending all that money on a douchebag extraordinaire car
>not getting a white with blue gofast stripes Ford GT

>>630976
> However, I dont really why.

How about because it costs $500 for a 'cheap' uncomfortable, hot, stuffy-looking outfit that you have to take to a special store to get cleaned.

That doesn't include ties + proper leather shoes.

>2015
>buying a car that runs on filthy, inefficient gasoline

>>630960
Luxury is fucking huge. If you looked at the stock price recovery after 2009, luxury brands did way better than department stores in general. Any business targeted to rich people will do fine. Anything middle class.. lol good luck.

>>630751
He looks like he's wearing a burlap sack.

>>630390
I'm 6ft tall and have discomfort getting out of a civic because it's so low to the ground. I don't want to imagine what it would be like trying to get out of a car as low as a lambo.

This is what the shortest man in the world looks like standing next to one.

>>630390

Buy a Tesla, Maserati or Audi R8

>>630751
That dude looks shitty as hell.

Just more proof that if you are fit any regular suit will look better than 50k suit on a fatty/skinnyfat loser.

There is no point in all of that, when you just gain or lose 5 pounds, the suit doesn't fit perfectly anymore.

I had 3 suits tailored and they hardly fit, because I gained 5 kg's of muscle (/fit/fag here)

>>630874
>Being active and taking care of your eating habits let's you lead a more productive life.
aka unemployment

>>631399
fatty justifying lol

>>631400
Skinny as fuck, albeit probably unhealthy. I'd rather die young and rich.

I'd get a boss 429 and drive it into the ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlKkds2Lhx8

>>631403
I'd rather die old, fit and rich.

Learn about maxing out in life

lambos are overrated

>>631209
If were are talking about luxury fashion then $500 pays for a shirt or a pair of pants.

The thing is: most of the profit is made at the mid to high level. If a designer brand has multiple subbrands and they sell tshirts for $250 or jeans for $400+, thats where the profit margins come from. When you spend $2000 on a cashmere coat or $3000 on a leather jacket the profit margin isnt actually that big because not only do you pay for exclusivity, but also for the materials and the design. Which doesnt mean that the price is completely justified, but it sure as hell is closer to reality. Unless of course you buy shit like Burberry trenchcoats that were made in Taiwan, costs of 100% cotton and retail for $1600.

I honestly think that the major reason why people started to value clothes less is 2008. They realized how fast they can lose money, so they started to appreciate luxury goods less and went with wool that was only woven 100 instead of 200 times for example. Whether this will change again is yet to be seen. I would welcome it if the market was cleansed from shit ridden companies such as Burberry for example.

I work at a premium auto dealership, honestly I love cars but now that I'm finally selling the best of the best it's gotten even better

>>631470
Btw these are actual pics of the showroom I work on

>>631453
I think you missed the point that I was trying to get at -

Suits are expensive, uncomfortable, and impractical. It was only a matter of time until they went out of fashion.

> inb4 tailored suits aren't uncomfortable

Walk down the street during the summer in NYC or DC in a goddamn blazer, then tell me how comfortable your suit is when you have pit stains at 930am and just got your shit dry cleaned last weekend.

Additionally, the recent crop of prominent tech business leaders - Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg, etc. - don't wear suits when they make public appearance.

If you are trying to market a product to someone who is under 35, wearing a suit is the wrong thing to do. Suit says "used car salesman." Suit says "I'm a boomer trying to swindle your money."

>>630613
you are wrong.

>>630972
This is the stuff cringe threads are made of
>You dont even seem to understand being bulky isnt equal to being fit

>>630972
Lol of course a weak europoor is going to say this. It's funny how skinnfats and regular fats try to justify the way they are. A jacked motherfucker will always be respected more thank a skinny fuck in a suit by Men and women.

>>630751


All that and yet it still looks like a pile of crap. Guess you really can't buy taste.

>>630972
Do you even know the purpose of 'bulking'? There are a lot of businessmen that bulk and cut because they want to stay fit and be successful in every field they operate. Of course the top CEOs of the world do not go to the gym lifting weight, but doing faggy shits like kettle bells, exercise balls and low intensity cardio on the threadmill like you do.

>>630611


What do you drive?

>>630408
>>630406

that and the roads there are so shit, especially san mateo area. There's a reason why suvs are so popular

>>630972
Plenty of guys I work with are successful and fairly muscular (upwards of 200 lbs and pretty lean).
They arent warren buffet so you dont hear about them though.
Most really smart kids dont enjoy lifting (aka nerds) and they are the ones who become notably rich.

Also all you faggot, DYEL europoorcucks are probably so poor because you dont have the motivation that lifting provides.

>>631584
>Suits are expensive, uncomfortable, and impractical
This shows that you have never worn and actual suit. You bought something at a store without bringing it to a tailor. Obviously it will feel like shit. A properly tailored suit is the best piece of cloth in existence and anything but uncomfortable.

>prominent tech business leaders
Pointless comparison. Suits are mostly worn in consulting, finance and law. This has and will always be the case. No one ever gave a shit about what you were wearing in tech.

>used car salesman
Jesus christ how delusional are you. Stop to take your shitty feelings for granted, because they arent. In fact, this statement just further proves that you have no fucking clue what a properly tailored suit looks like so please, for the love of god, stop to fucking talk about fashion and whether product are reasonably prices or not. Fucking embarrassing.

>>631620
Someone whos skinnyfat or generally fat cant be considered fit, though. Ergo, is not part of the group of people that I was talking about.

>always be respected more thank a skinny fuck in a suit by Men and women
>always
Thanks for the laugh. Not even able to properly speak english. Americans, everyone. Are you black by any chance?

>>631618
Is it not because bulking is focusing on mass (and I am not talking about muscle mass to look lean. But the clowns who just bulk up mass for the sake of mass). They arent necessarily fit because they lack stamina. A person who cant run 40 minutes straight isnt fit. Being fit is about combining musclemass, strength and endurance.

>>631629
>that bulk and cut because
You dont even seem to understand what bulking is. Past the age of 24 you will have a really rough time gaining muscle mass. Its a long, time wasting process. Losing a kilo here and there isnt bulking you fucking imbecile. And no person with an ACTUAL career has the time or nerves to 'bulk'. Which you apparently seem to think simply stands for lifting weights, which it doesnt.

Bulking requires you to consistently increase the weight youre lifting to gain a severe amount of mass. You generally will want to be on a protein diet or something to speed this up. Thats bulking, increasing weight by X%. Not just lifting and increasing the weight by 1% every month. Thats not something many people do, LET ALONE many successful businessmen.

I swear to god you fucking americans. The world expects you to speak ONE language and even that is too hard for you.

>>630829
We have a weights room in the basement. I bulk and shower from 12-13:00 then go garb a hefty meal and go back to my office.

FU fat fuck,.. zyzz is god.

>>631688
no one gives a fuck

>>631688
>no person with an ACTUAL career has the time or nerves to add weight to what they're lifting and adjust their diet
Stop

>>631688
Why are you such a pussy? Going on about "mah nerves" and shit?

>>631688
Educate yourself please.

>>631710
Who are you quoting? Bulking isnt jusr "adjusting diet and weight'. Can you underage fatties stop to talk about something that you know literally nothing about? What youre talking about is normal lifting.

>>631714
Woooah, what a compelling argument. I b-bulk guys. Like this clown >>631689 right? Who thinks that the guy in the picture is bulking.

>>631714
He's right though. What almost all of you are talking about simply is lifting. Increasing weight and being on a specific diet isn't bulking. If you bulk your goal is to gain a lot of weight in a short amount of time by eating more than you could ever burn. You're purposely becomig fatter. Lifting and drinking a protein shake afterwards isn't bulking.

No idea where you people are being told that it is but I assume you browse /fit/. Which is funny since the board should be name /lift/. The people browsing it have no clue what being fit actually means.

>>631664
> muh tailoring...

See? I knew that's all you got. Notice how I pointed out warm weather and not the fit as what makes it uncomfortable. On the other hand, when it snows or rains badly you end up dirtying a very expensive garment and have to spend even more money getting it cleaned or replacing it.

> Pointless comparison...

Yet you then continue with more pointless comparisons to lawyers and an incorrect assessment about consultants. You're obviously a college student who has never held a real job. Oh wait, moved down the thread and realized your a foreigner... Don't tell me how fashion is in the U.S.

I will concede that there are a select few people who wear suits everyday (lawyers and politicians mostly), but that's mostly because of tradition and professional heritage at this point. The vast majority of the workforce has moved away from it. It's not a practical wardrobe, it's stuffy, and there are plenty of other ways to look presentable and professional.

>>631739
>how I pointed out warm weather
No idea where you live but in most first world countries its barely ever so warm that you cant wear a suit. How long does summer last in New York, Chicago or Central Europe? Like a month? The rest of the time its 25 degrees and if you wear light mateirals you shouldnt sweat. Not even gonna start on the fact that you will spend 95% of your day in an office building anyway. Those usually have air conditioning.

>it snows or rains badly you end up dirtying
Then you should wear an overcoat or raincoat. I heard those exist for a reason. Or you know, these things called umbrellas. Dont know if you have heard of them.

>vast majority of the workforce has moved away from it.
Towards more casual blazers which essentially are suit jackets as well. They simply have different cuts, designs and are worn with non matching trousers. Damn. Totally different thing. No reason for them to fit, right?

You bring up completely retarded situations. Consider you position and rethink the stuff you spout. 3 of 4 seasons promote wearing a blazer/suit. Your argument for not doing so are the few weeks in summer when its 30 degrees+? You can do better.

>>631688
>>631726
Bulking is the process of gaining mass by eating a caloric suficit and increasing either your training volume or lifting weight.
Cutting is eating a caloric deficit while losing or (hopefully) maintaining your strength levels.
By gaining mass you will gain some fat and some muscle, but unless you live a sedentary lifestyle you will never gain only fat.
That's what those terms actually mean no matter how you chose to perceive them.
>time and nerves to bulk
what the fuck?

>>631762
To efficientlty bulk up you not only need to consume a shit ton more food than you usually do (especially if youre still planning on eating proper food), you also need significant amounts of sleep.

Youre basically required to sleep AT LEAST 8 hours a day while trying to gain sufficient amounts of muscle mass. Which makes up for a gigantic part of your freetime, especially when you spend 70hours+ at the office or with wortk related stuff. Which is something most people who are successful businessmen do. Thats why its bullshit to claim that a lot of successful people bulk. They lack the time to effectively do so. Staying fit isnt bulking.

Of course there might be some people who do this. But they are a fraction of society and sure as hell not the rule.

>>630390
Only if you're rich as fuck and can afford others car in the same price range without noticing what numbers changed in your bank account

ITT: plebs who can't dress up, mostly

>there are savage beasts ITT who think no young person dresses like that
>or that they'll find a similar fit with such a cloth for $500 in any shop
>or that it's not comfortable (see how the man looks oppressed)

>>631807
>skinnyfat body
>wears a double breasted suit
fuccboi

>>631807
That's what I wear when I go visit my regular prostitute.

>>630751
See that sort of fold where the button meets the other side of the jacket, that shouldn't be there. Its too tight,

Off the rack tux, fuck you. If you're not fat you don't need to get something bespoke.

Jesus, you people all sound so bourgeois

>>630751
>knit tie
Are you even trying?

>friend starts a trucking company
>buys a lambo
>drives it for a month
>gets sick of it
>sits in his garage
>finally sells it
>loses 9k
>happy to be rid of it
>buys a hummer
>does lots of offroad mawds
>loves it

It was a cool car but it lost its charm after a while

>All these rich people ITT
>tfw poor all my life
>22
>500$ in saving
>And here I am thinking what to invest them in

>>631881
If I can make a suggestion, use some of that money to get into Amazon.

Google Fulfilment by Amazon and retail arbitrage. It'll take a while but you can bootstrap that money up if its purely money for investing.

>>631629
Has never had a real job. If you have time to waste at the fucking gym, or energy after a proper days work (9-5 is not a full day faggot), you're either not working hard enough or not in a half-decent job.

>>631664
Any client facing role within tech will involve wearing a suit. I'm a tech consultant, I wouldn't dream of not wearing a suit when I was at client site or there was I client in the office.

>>631889
Thanks I will look into it.
If anyone else has anything to add,idea,suggestion feel free.

>>631895
uhhh, dude you are pathetic to a whole new level? 9-5? and you cant find the 5 hours a week it takes to make some gains? You cant be bothered to eat every 3 hours at your desk with aid of throwing whey and water together.

Just give up on life dude, unless that 9-5 job really is the only reason you live

>>631688

Competitive weightlifter of a decade here,

>past the age of 24 you will have a really tough time gaining muscle mass

ha

haha

hahahahahaha

HA

Stick to /biz/ stuff, you fucking plebian.

>>630751
>That tie
>Those disgusting lapels

Looks awful. 1/10
Those massive lapels make it look like bozo the clown and Mussolini's tailoring services have really taken off.

>>631919
Your will unless you dedicate your life to it. The fact that you think that laughing at this comment, being a person who basically did so just further proves the point. We were talking about people actual are successful businessmen. If you work 70+ hours a week you barely have time for gym, let alone going every single day. The funny part is that I didnt even say that its impossible, I simply stated that its rough compared to the easy time you have in your early 20s. Which by the way is a scrientifically proven fact. Guess you traded some braincells for your lat.

>>631794
You have to eat 500 more calories than normal. That's fucking nothing.

Why are you such a defensive little faggot?

>>631794
Is all of /biz/ this stupid? Can you guys just not admit you don't know something? You can bulk just fine without 8 hours of sleep but you should still sleep that much just for general health.

>>631923
Did you not just say that you've been going to the gym for the past 10 years? Do you only go for 20 minutes or something? All you have to do is lift for 3-4 hours a week and eat slightly more than usual to bulk.

Also this guy >>631689 is zyzz and he was an advocate of bulking and cutting.

Also you idea of what a bulk is in >>631688 shows you don't know shit.

>>631963
>just for general health
Good fucking joke. People lack the time to do that, not even gonna start on the fact that its bullshit. You dont seem to understand shit about time management. But thats fine. You cant provide a single argument why a person who spends 70+ hours at work would be fine with ~20hours of freetime a week, and thats ASSUMING that there never is a trafic jam, you dont work longer etc.

The the debate was about successful people. Not your 45hours a week employee who makes minimum wage. Entrepreneurs and such, or people in busy fields like finance or law.

>>631945
And split the food you consume over a bigger number of meals, waste 33%+ more time sleeping than you usually would etc.

>>631974
>And split the food you consume over a bigger number of meals
This is wrong you stupid nigger. Stop reading women's magazines and actually lift some weights.

>>631974
>People lack the time to do that
Well that's sad but I can understand who someone wouldn't have time for that.

>not even gonna start on the fact that its bullshit
Oh this I gotta hear. You've shown such scientific knowledge so far I'd love to hear how it's actually healthy to sleep 5 hours a night and keep yourself awake with coffee all day.

>And split the food you consume over a bigger number of meals, waste 33%+ more time sleeping than you usually would etc.
The fuck are you talking about? 500 extra calories a day is half a subway. Why would you have to sleep 33% more?

You see this guy in pic related? He has sleeping problems and generally only gets 5 hours a sleep. Doesn't seem to negatively affect his ability to bulk.

>>631974
>Implying you can't be successful working 40-50 hours a week

>>630568
not sure I'd get a replica/kit car and some of the originals will cost you a lot more than a lambo these days...

I do agree with the general point though, Lambos are a bit too flashy and in some areas not exactly uncommon. Something like a Morgan though is a bit classier, hand made too...

>>631983
>someone wouldn't have time for that
Thats why this conversation escalated to hard. We were arguing about people who actually have a packed job and spend most of their time at the office/doing work related things. Assuming you work 70+ hours a week, which is something quite a few people in certain fields do and is incredibly common among entrepreneurs you would piss away 56hours per week for something that serves no purpose since you can easily regenerate with naps for 6 hours daily. 56hours of the remaining 98 you have. Now add the time you need to work, get ready in the morning and general shit you might wanna do.

Youll be left with ~20 hours of freetime. The amount of people who will be willing to do this is pretty small, lets just put it this way. And thats the problem since some clown claimed that this was a common thing to do. Because it sure as hell isnt.

>how it's actually healthy to sleep 5 hours a night
No one claimed that. Arent you capable of simple math? I said 33% more sleep. Which means 6 hours are enough, 8 hours are an increase by 33%.

>He has sleeping problems and generally only gets 5 hours a sleep
And he doesnt look like he will ever make any money in his life or be commited to a well paying job. Not even gonna start on the fact that google image search doesnt give me shit so you could say whatever you want about him to prove your point.

>>631991
That depends on what your definition of being successful is. I agree with you that it is possible. However, most people will slave away a shit ton of time in the beginning to be in a comfortable position as fast as possible. I already mentioned some of the fields this is very common in.

>>631993
Well yeah I can understand why most people wouldn't want to do that if there plate is that full. However, what I and other had an issue with was you saying that only "mentally handicapped monkeys around 20 do."

6 hours isn't bad and does have you waking up at the end of a REM cycle but is still not optimal. Again if your schedule is super busy then yeah sleep 6 hours but that doesn't mean that sleeping 7.5 to 8 hours for health is "bullshit."

He's Dan Green. I got a information from a friend of his that browses /plg/. It's just one example. Plenty of other big powerlifters like Mark Bell are known not to sleep much and my own bulk has been going fine off of 6 hours a night. I've gain strength and muscle just fine.

>>631983
First of all, that guys on so much gear -- you really shouldn't use him as an example. Also, he lives to powerlift. Basically, his 9-5 is spent doing things to better himself at powerlifting. He probably lives in a shack. But still, he's got some informative youtube vids.

But to >>631993 's point -- if you have enough time to do cardio, you'll have enough time to "bulk," considering you're not really supposed to do much cardio while bulking anyway. I'll agree, just because you're bulking doesn't mean you're healthy.

But time-wise, it is 100% possible to bulk and work a 70 hour week. I'm an attorney and have a couple attorney friends working 70-80+/hrs a week and they have time for shit like this. It only takes about an hour for 3 days a week. Then you'll have to eat about 500 more calories a day (which is really not hard, as another anon said -- its about half a subway more). Then you just make sure you get at least 6-7 hours of sleep and there....you're bulking. Explain to me how you don't think businessmen can do this?

And yes, you don't see CEOs of fortune 500 companies doing this shit because old people physically cannot progress past a certain points. But that's like 45 yr olds. Anyone younger should have no problems and I've seen a few 50-60 yr olds putting up a 2plate bench easy.

I honestly think you just have something against people who are bigger than you.

>>631471
What's the most expensive car you have sold and what was your commission?

>>631372
>This is what the shortest man in the world looks like standing next to one.
>the shortest man in the world

>>631852
>Cencors the picture
>Leaves the identifying number in the name
What for?

>>630751
HAHAHAHAHA all that work to look this shitty? Holy fuckkkkk no thanks

I'd rather Mercedes S class

>>630751
Why are your hands so feminine looking.. such slender nails...

wtf

>>631993

That's Dan Green in the picture who owns his own gym and is one of the most successful powerlifters in the world because he owns his own gym.

>>631201
that would get nice attention, i mean its clean, simple and you know its got nice shit in it.

>>631688
>Bulking requires you to consistently increase the weight youre lifting to gain a severe amount of mass.
Wow, man. just wow. get this DYEL outta here.

>>631895
I go to a gym in the financial district and I see regular gym goers in suits coming into the gym ever week at the same time as me. Also, some of my successful cousins do go the gym.

Remember that is always an excuse for not going to the gym, and 'not having time' is the most common.

>>631470
the F12 is a fucking masterpiece, man. Big long hoods are so cool.

>>632448

I'm in law and gym is fairly regular although I have to say people do somewhat think "why does that guy think he has enough time to work out?"; basically, people that can't properly manage their time will try to shit on other people that can.

I've seen a lot of people put on a lot of weight from working long hours... they come in as really fit graduates and after 2 years they're a pudgy associate.

>>631905
>eating every 3 hours

why are people still perpetuating this bullshit?

>>631895
>you're either not working hard enough or not in a half-decent job.
Or maybe you are just a lazy fuck, asshat. If the CEO of fucking Oracle can find time to go the gym, even if it means waking up at 4:30am everyday - then you have no fucking excuse.

>>630392
A client I worked for had one of these, this was the exact reason why he sold it.

>>630406
Try going 200 mph in this.

>>632448
>>632458
Not who you replied to but the guy you were arguing with for the last 100 posts didnt claim that no one goes to the gym. In fact, he said that going to the gym is totally fine even if you work 80 hours a week. He simply said that their wont be many who are willing to adjust diet, spend a shit ton of time at the gym and will get the optimal amount of the sleep. Most people in the field simply arent willing to sacrifice their freetime, and I honestly can understand why. Imagine that you only have 25 hours a week to spend on stuff you might wanna do. Would you really go to the gym? I probably wouldnt anymore.

Besides, why do you fucking link a picture of a fitness coach? No shit she will be fit after pregancy. Its her fucking job to be. At least try yo provide proper examples, not fucking actors or peoples whos job it is to look fit.

>kids who never drove a lambo giving their opinion about lambo
>kids who never wore a suit in their life (let alone a bespoke suit) giving their opinion about suits
>those are the people who advise to buy dogecoin and general moly stocks

Keep on delivering the good things, /biz/

>>630829
>Konstantinovs works as a professional bodyguard to earn his living.

>>632702

>It is quite difficult to combine professional training and normal life with job. What do you think?

>I work as a bodyguard and fly all over the world which is interesting and nice but hard to combine with training and meets. Many times, I have to train in hotel fitness clubs where, of course, there is no powerlifting equipment. Sometimes, the only option is push-ups and squats with my colleague on my back. I usually lose 4-5kg of my bodyweight and it takes me around 2 weeks to get back on track. But if you want it hard enough, all can be done.


>Are you happy with your current bodyweight?

>KK: I always had troubles gaining weight. I am naturally lean and I always had to fight for new mass. On the other hand I do not want to get fat. Slowly I would like to get to 135 - 140 kg. Currently, I weigh around 128 kg which is not much considering my height 190 cm.

can't speak for a lambo or an expensive as shit suit. But I can speak for my Audeze LCD-2 headphones. Though I think that audio is something you always get good return on and can't get bored with as much.

>>630829

>No person with an actual job 'bulks'
>My time management skills are poor
>Just like my physique
>I'm jealous of the guys that hold together looking good, working hard and making money

>>630972
lol, he thinks "bulking" means being bulky

the other anon isn't misusing the term "bulking" (not "bulking up" as you misread), you're misunderstanding it.

Take you and your weird fetish for net-worth-lowering suits, for example. You wish to be "flashy", but you do not go around "flashing" people in your suits. Same thing.

>>631453


well said, anon. Someone's been reading the millionaire next door.

>>631688
You can bulk by 1kg dickhead. You can bulk by 0.5lb. You don't have to go full on human cloud mode to be classed as "bulking", dear lord. Learn what bulking means, you've got it drastically incorrect and you just won't show humility by backing down in the face of at least 5-10 people who are telling you you're wrong.

Yes I mad.

>>631895

Did they write "top 5 regrets of the dying" based on your life?!

>>631688
>A person who cant run 40 minutes straight isnt fit
This is true though

>>632485
>Maria Kang is a mother of 3 sons, a wife to a former Marine, a business owner of elderly residential care homes and a nonprofit founder, Fitness without Borders.

>>631212
if you drive an electric car..
How do you think that electricity is made?
Definitely not coal..

>>631388
save up for a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenigsegg

>>630751
>3 buttons

>>632975
It's still far more efficient, and how the electricity is generated can change and become cleaner in the future for the grid. if you have a gas engine, you can't rely on a changing energy source - you are beholden to other countries for oil.

>>632747
>>632743
>>632740
>>632736
>>632732
Dumbass.

Can't believe this thread is still alive. Fucking bespoke europoors.

>>630390
Even Lamborghini is sick of Lambos.

>>630390

That's why you buy a plane instead.

>>633920
Mein schwarze

>>630751
Makes him look like a potato bag from a 70's english sitcom.

Bad taste is bad taste, no matter how muh you pay

>>631631

Same as you, probably a Hyundai or a bicycle

>>630390
Get a nissan gtr then

>>633642
uh..maybe you could clarify but I thought that gasoline and maybe uranium are the most energy dense substances human's fuckround w/
transferring energy is not efficient

ps what do you think happens to those batteries from hybrids and electric cars? they are not good for the environment in the long run
ps what about the lithium for those batteries? not conflict minerals obviously
but yeah I heard if you load up on wind turbines in just the top two windiest states in the USA, it equals enough to power the entire nation..def on your side for cleaner energy
pps
salt powered car
pic related
http://www.intelligentliving.co/salt-water-powered-car-gets-european-approval/

>>636539
excuse the rogue apostrophe

>>630751

I won't lie: this sounds amazing.

I have ZERO desire for: expensive cars, big mansions, expensive watches/jewelry, designer clothes/shoes or $300 haircuts.

Honestly, I'd actually consider myself a miser but one of the few things I'd actually want to know.

The only condition is that I'd have to have made either my first million or landed a six-figure job; that way it will be a reward more than a splurge.

>>637112

Err, want to have.

How much do these suits start at?

I know a lot depends on the material, tailor, etc. but a ballpark figure?

>>631632
>roads there are so shit
Not just in Cali but everywhere, no matter how good you think the roads in your area are.
It just becomes a pain in the ass trying to use it practically because of the teeth clenching fear of hearing
>kcchhhkkkkkkkkkk
over seemingly the smallest bumps in the road; So instead you end up taking your econobox out on the town because your not as worried about the resale value

>>630751
nice copypasta

>>630390
Any fag driving a "luxury" car for status will get bored of it, it just becomes normal. Buy a real sports car, take it to the track, beat the piss out of it, scare yourself half to death and you'll never get bored of it. I mean, if that's your thing. If not, get a hobby.

Having a 600 HP car and only accelerating like normal people do, only driving the same speeds everyone else does (hurr muh 10 MPH faster fuck off), that's like edging after 30 seconds. What's the fucking point? I'd rather not touch my dick, I'd rather not have a car that can do 0-60 in 1st gear in 3 seconds if I can't use even half of that power on a regular basis.

>>631807
lmao nice hourglass figure ya twink

>>632702
>>632732
>>631620
Actually he's right, your 1 hour of beauty pageant thrice a week doesn't make you a better man in any way.
>>631688
>>632412
Retards are people who go to the gym. I have a powercage and do it thrice a week so fucking what? I don't give a shit if women or men find me prettier for it. I don't get money from it, I don't get shit from it. I only get some cheap ass compliments which I don't give a shit about.

Fuck lifting weights just a stupid passtime, most people in the gym and who go to the gym are obnoxious as fuck to. That's why I just bought a powercage with a way better barbell than most gyms have. Seriously you faggots try to give advice to people who deadlift waaay more than you or look waaay better. Fuck people in the gym, fuck the people who praise it. They're all prideful stuck up cunts who just go to the gym because it's the only aspect in life they can shine in.

>>630390
I being a mechanic, born into a family who owns an import dealership, I can undoubtably tell you that you will get tired of your Lamborghini. Unless you look at your car as more than status symbol, method of transportation, or adrenaline rush you will get tired of it. I dont expect everyone to appreciate cars the way I do but theres something to be said for something original, historical, or sentimental. Besides a much better sports car can be created with the inflated price tag of a new Lamborghini..

>>630829
Sounds like you a jealous complacent and lazy and try to justify why you have to tuck ur stomach into your waistband

>>637723
>Retards are people who go to the gym.

LOL, I guess it's retarded to make yourself sexually attractive to the opposite sex without buying them.

I guess it's retarded to get all of those endorphins in your brain when a woman complements your physique.

lol @ sour grapes ITT.

Fucking fat losers. Guess what, I have a successful business and am ripped as fuck. Learn about maxing out.

>>631807
You have shit physique.

You don't look intimidating in slightest. Just another skinnyfat nerd.

>>631993

i am CEO and working 70+ hours a week, plus i have twins!

I also go to the gym three times a week and run twice a week.

I am 185 cm tall and weight between 95 and 100 Kg depending on Summer or Winter.

you are one lazy nigger!

>>632012
underrated post!

And as for Lambo, you all are forgetting the #1 reason for buying it:
To get chicks easily and make other men jelly as fuck.

That's it. That's the thing that car was made for.

>>638946
>being CEO
>having twins
>Working 70 hrs
>Being 185 cm
>Being on /biz/
Sure buddy. Timestamp or it didn't happen

next thing we have WB posting here lol

>>631807

>double breasted jacket
>tie/shirt patterns clash
>handkerchief doesn't match tie
>suit jacket lighter than shirt and doesn't match pants
>cheap thin tie which is too tight at the top and poking out at the neck

unequivocally, indisputably, you are the pleb

>>638968
>handkerchief doesn't match tie

To give him a break handkerchief doesn't have to match tie. It's considered too try-hard and boring.