/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>6061731
This is absolutely correct reasoning.

remember the time you didn't buy bitcoin cash when they were $300? well, here you go guys.

>>6061876
>>6061914
I just cant believe it
Why isn't biz all over it

considering all-in on this

already got 40% in

It's so obvious I'm sceptical. Seriously, what's the catch? How can it be this easy to flip money?

Natsu Natsu kiii i have made over 40K with this coin till now

>>6061731
>conservative 5bln mc

>Wallet coming out tomorrow
>Ledger Nano S support announced today
>Fork date announcement imminent

let me rephrase. remember the time you didn't buy bitcoin cash when they were $300? except this time there isn't a huge divide in the community between bitcoin cash, and bitcoin segwit. Imagine buying BCH with a HUGE amount normie support behind you.

>>6062236
being smug does not pay, I promise you anon. I made a post when these were $15. I know you guys remember me. You will be sorry when this is in the top 10 coins.

>>6062328
I want to buy it but my mom won't let fuuuuck

>>6062328

I-i bought at $40. a-am i gonna make it senpai?

See pic related. Another anon posted in the other thread from earlier.

Guaranteed 5x once normies hop on board.

>>6062396
And no I'm actually being seiousl although my comment looks like I'm making fun

This cap was my thread from a few days ago. I'm so grateful to whomever that first anon was. I fucking love this place, you are all my family.

>>6062397
that's a better entry point than the majority of biz. you'll notice that is more interested in erc20 tokens on binance & kucoin. They don't care about functional crypto currencies. Go read the Tron buzzword whitepaper, go try to use the xrp wallet, and try actually using kucoin.

went a chill 15% in at 500K sats, and watched it go sideways for days during the BTC re engage. While the pumped alts went down, this one held strong and so did I on seeing that. The whales were accumulating then, but now they have lost control. Its good to see this shit take off and I am considering going all in now, looking at all the other sorry forks, and knowing 'privacy' trend/wave is here. Would not mind 10x my holdings lol

>>6062478

T-thats so sweet, i'm s-so happy for you senpai

Where do I buy this

>>6062558
you'll notice biz** is more interested

The Japanese and MAYBE Korean love this shit check out some of their tweets

>>6061731
two things can happen

bittrex can support the fork
bittrex opens new registrations

if these both happen you're gonna see prices so high even trump will bend the knee

>>6061731
Not exactly, BTCP will have 18 mil supply so 5 bil marketcap will be just under BTG price (300). However we should expect it to be double that at least and after a few months will be a competitor to BCH ($1k or 2k/BTCP).

Technically speaking, how does BTCP compare to XMR?

>>6061731
I bought today at an ATH because I had FOMO.

Absolutely no regrets, would like a date for the fork though.

>>6062122
Biz is all over it. There are at least 5 of these threads a day. You need to post this on social media or reddit or some shit to attract the normies because biz is already in this shit

Yeah fuck it normies don’t even know about this yet I’m going all in

>>6062638
yeah and considering BTG doesn't do shit, this actually has a legitimate use. will easily bypass the price and that's being conservative.

>>6062637
buy on cryptopia or trade satoshi if you can't register a bittrex account. even if bittrex doesn't support the fork (which they obviously will) Nano ledger will be supporting the fork

will bittrex support the fork and pay out btcp? or where is a good idea to keep your ZCL? is there a website who surely will support the fork and pay out?
never had this forking business so im clueless.

Senpai I've been shilling ZCL for WEEKS now, starting from a little bit before it was 37 dollars. Some /biz/peeps thanked and listened, others called me a pajeet. The joke is on them, I have 500+ and will be entering /comfyland/

>>6062637
can't make a new account on crpytopia either

Take a look at the Tron/BAT/LINK shill threads and compare it to ZCL threads.

ZCL looks completely artifical and scummy.

>>6061731
It's not Monero. It's a Zcash fork. Zcash is the only altcoin (that i know of) designed and built by professional and academic cryptographers.

Zclassic is what Zcash was supposed to be.

Will shitopia support the fork. I want to be able to dump my Zclassic as fast as possible.

>>6062820
did you seriously just say tron isn't bullshit lmao

>>6062436
Supply = BTC + ZCL supplies = about 20m is correct. That is even better thing then.

>>6062783
Im sorry my dude, guess you drowned in a sea of kucoin referals and bazinga threads.

In since 5$ ahahaah you all will cry when im millionare and btcp has same mcap than bitcoin with trading pairs and shit

what exchange should we buy zcl on?

>>6062933
bittrex. most likely going to announce support

>>6062478
Get Achain too, fork on the 12.

>>6062766
I heard you can keep it in the ZCL wallet, although I'm not exactly sure how getting the BTCP would work. It probably just gets dropped in the ZCL wallet and you can't see it, and you send it to a BTCP address to get the BTCP.

>>6062122
We are. Only so much we can do. This is going to explode.

>>6062236
>what is nem

>>6062766
BTCP will be releasing a wallet in the next few days

the zcl devs literally just keep forking shit for free pumps and everyone just goes along with it, its absolutely retarded. they are not capable of making a functioning privacy coin, if they even manage to fork without botching it you might get some short term gains if zcl itself doesnt crash immediately but btcp is 100% scamware

>>6063135
zcl devs.... the 1 dev you mean? Talk out your ass all you want but give some source why its a scam

>>6063135
You must be one of those hush faggots

>>6063135
You stupid zcl HAS privacy features. Xvg doesnt

>>6063268
Seriously tho have you seen the normal shill on hush? Its insane.

>>6063310
Yeah it's the next bazingacoin

>>6063310
Yup, cringe af

>>6063135
If he was serious about crypto he'd focus on 1 coin. Instead of like 5 forks. BTCP will fork into another cashgrab.

those buy orders on bittrex christ a single 20BTC buy order

>>6063391
Exampe of the other 4 forks? He did say he was shifting all his attention to BTCP so ZCL will drop like a rock.

>>6062898
Yeah I understand why but it's frustrating because /biz/anons got me into various pumps. I started out with just 150 eurobucks and made 30k+ since september. I just want to help other /biz/anons but yeah fuck the pajeets, we need flag filters.

>>6063440
20btc is 1400 zcl which is 1400 btcp. Someone is definitely doing the smart thing

>>6063440
He knows it will be 50 min in 3 weeks.
>what is 30x16000
Reduce the numbers all you'd like. Dump it all here for min 2.5x and max 10x in the next couple weeks.

>>6061731
just remember, you're buying at 100x of what it was 2 weeks ago.

>>6063502
I have a rig i farm which decided to jump into investing instead. using my mining profits to invest every month so i can make it this year. Any key points you've learned here to speed up another anons profits?

>>6063188

use your brain idiot, there is literally 0 reason to fork zclassic other than pumping it for free money. why not just fork BTC? its not necessary whatsoever from a tech perspective

>>6063278

it has privacy features that the zcl dev copy pasted from zec, that's all he does just copy + paste and then slap some branding on there and the bagholders shower him with free money

>>6063613
u dont git it

>>6063441
I'm riding the zclassic train to gainsville, but the man forked zcash, zclassic, zencash, and now btcp.

>>6061731
>supply of BTCP = 3 million from ZCL + 17m from BTC = 20m
>5 bln marketcap

That's only $250 per BTCP retard

>>6063648
Why make a new coin at all if you can just fork btc endlessly? Not sure I trust your tech statement

>>6063648
calling cryptos a scam does not pay. your emotions & your moral positions will not pay you. if your position is that this just rains free money by altering the code, then why wouldn't you buy?
what about all the erc20 tokens using the ethereum network? are those all scam coins just because the mimic the code of the network?

>>6063021
Where is the source on that fork? I can't find anything, they don't even have a subreddit

>>6063648
No. You are wrong and you don't understand money.

I want to put my money into something that is tested and safe. That is not going to change. That will stay the same for 100 years. If changes are made I want it to be done very carefully by the scientific community.

He took something created by cryptographic researchers and removed the bit a tax goes to the founders. Money should not be like that. The same conditions should apply to all.

Forking it together with Bitcoin is genius. The branding is genius. It's awesome and I believe in the guy.

>>6063801
u git it

>>6063834
yes...they watch the wolf but wont be one.

>>6062640
pls

>>6063799

endless forking of btc is absurd. go ahead and trust the guy who keeps pumping out meme forks and then promptly abandoning them

>>6063801

i bought a little zcl when i first heard about btcp because i knew itd be free money but i took my gains already, im not going to stick around for the botched fork or better yet non-existent one. as for comparing erc20 tokens to forks youre just embarrassing yourself, but as it turns out yes most of those are scams too

>>6063834

i understand enough to know a scam when i see one and most crypto right now is vaporware scams, this guys trash included. i dont care what his stated intentions were for the zcl fork, hes pumping it with a PR stunt before he "ceases development" on it and im sure BTCP will share the same fate if it even happens. yes the branding is good but thats the point, use BTC branding for a pump. the fact that you 'believe in the guy' is absolutely pathetic

>>6064474
Again provide the other forks he has done.

>>6063648
yes but BITCOIN HOLDERS wont get free ZEC PRIVACY COINS. THEY WILL GET ZCL; EVERY NORMIE HOLDING A BITCOIN WILL GET A PRIVACY BITCOIN FOR FREE. DO THE MATHS BRO

>>6064557
read the thread retard. Or you know, DYOR. ctrl-f is probably easier.

Shit man. I ve been buying at every fucking price point. will you faggots stop shilling this so the price stays down. dont worry you dont need an artificial pump. once the normies find out about this its gnna be 1k

>>6064680
Sound like a guy without an answer thanks for your fud.

>>6064557

already answered, zcash to zclassic and then zclassic to zencash, now zclassic to BTCP

>>6062122
tfw bought at $4. I feel as smug as a New York Jew

fuck all this fud, i'am not here to belive in ideas and actual tech, i'm here to make money on normies and this fork is one of the most obvious and safe opportunities to do that

>>6064982
4 (you)
>>6063727
next time try google if 4chan threads are to hard to follow.

This shit hitting high's soon, I know some insider info that within a week this will hit Binance

Strap the fuck in boys.

>>6065061
So you are saying Rhett the one developer for zcl.... is creating all these coins? Cause he had nothing to do with the development of Zcash or Zen.....

>>6063772
This is why it's going to be so funny to see the guys rushing to buy at the top get burned. This is an absolute scam to anyone entering right now.

>>6064474
man you are tedious. Calling forks absurd is annoying. When the community has a split in ideals then you fork the coin. What's the big deal? Oh no, it makes the community look bad. Again these are digital assets and generally don't care about representation. This is about functionality. Why aren't you calling ZCASH a scam? At least ZCL doesn't have a founders reward, the dev hasn't even invested in his own coin.

Another thing that makes you sound ridiculous. When you call bitcoin private a scam, then you are blatantly calling the communitya scam. Everything about bitcoin private has been made by the community. The logo, the code, replay protection, the wallet, the website, etc. Rhett built the original code & let the community finish it. This is the first fork where the community has control on the project.

>>6064474
did you know ETH is a fork?

what are the odds of the fork failing to happen?

>>6065391
this time next year the market will not be supporting 100 marginally different forks.

ddfff

>>6065503
Didn't you hear? It's a scam its not going to happen get out! Get out now! or TURN PINK!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. Nah but seriously very low fail chance at the moment just pay attention

>>6061731
It will be cancelled and your zen classic will be worth $12

>>6065639
Stay salty bazingafag

Is this why BCPT moon becouse people thought it was BTCP ?

>>6065531
It's just a newer way to initially distribute a coin or a token. BTC's distribution is better than almost any other coin, so it's probably the fairest way to do it.

>>6065391
one more thing. I keep seeing anons complain about copying the bitcoin code & adding things to it. Shouldn't this provide more security instead of fud? Most great innovations are small alterations of things that already work. Like BTCP adding privacy, and BCH increasing the blocksize. You can grasp this concept more by looking at architecture & fine art. Most novice artist think that they can create a masterpiece naturally with a blank canvas without any past recollection of art history.

guys i need serious strategy discussion here about post fork.

1) it gets dumped hard an no buy orders at all, coin crashes like a mofo we lose all the gains.
2) it drops about 50% in 24 hours, so slowly
3) whales will manipulate and trade all the while keeping price stable in an acceptable range for a couple hours to make more profits and cash out without blowing the price to pieces.
4)if we get immense normie attention, idiots might still place buy orders post snapshot and we might all be able to pass our bags to fagget brainlet normies

what scenario will play out?

Something else to consider is the price of BTCP, current ZCL circulating supply is 1.8mil and btc is 16.8mil = 18.6mil circulating supply. If BTCP gets added on binance, and bittrex and gets a lot of attention on social media what launch price could we expect? BTG was worth 10% of BTC at the time, if BTCP does the same we might see 1.2-1.5k at launch considering the increased supply.

>>6065342

of course he had nothing to do with zcash, but he was involved with zen

>>6065391

forking isnt inherently bad but it is when its clearly being used for a free pump on the coin youre forking because youre the dev of that coin sitting on a big stack, youre pretty naive if you think he 'hasnt invested in his own coin'. and "the community" should not have supported a zcl fork since its not necessary to implement zerocoin protocol on top of btc, thats pretty much what zcash did except they did it in a shitty centralized way. all community support shows, which i doubt exists in any meaningful capacity, is that the community is gullible. if they wanted a coin called BTCP that forked bitcoin and implemented zerocoin/zksnarks and shit they could have done it without pumping zcl

>>6065931
1). Bare in mind a bunch of BTC holders will wake up with a free coin they don't care about. and early adopters are holding zcash so won't just magically start accumulating. If you are holding through the fork dump Zclassic IMMEDIATELY. and then hold BTCP for at least 2 weeks while it bounces back.
>>6065885
yeah. ever see the open source community? not all forks are bad. But a lot of the time it's just splitting dev resources and making redundancy. Not to mention its a currency not just a pet project. Remember the Fiat fork and then Bretton Woods and post bretton woods forks of the USD? which ones are you hodling? exactly.

>>6066021
There we go with the information you have provided I did some research and found out he even had a part in bitcoin gold. Ride the hype of zcl a little further?

>>6066179
who will buy it though? the btc guys wont probably even touch it and let it sit in theri wallet.

>>6061731
>>6062587
So if I have 120 ZCL how much $$$ wil I make at the end of this?

>>6066334
why wouldnt they at least dump it for free money?

>>6066553
i mean theyll let btcp sit in their wallet probably.zcl will be dumped but who the hell will buy it? are there that moronic people

>>6066021
What is wrong with doing it this way? It is nice for new people (like myself) to get a shot at getting in on something early. Why always do a traditional fork? Do you think it is fair that some people own 1000 BTC just because they found out about bitcoin in 2011? Why is that fairer than this?

I think it is fair because:
1. It's community driven
2. No founders rewards

I also like that he says he wants to keep the protocol "pure". It's a conservative approach.

He is not micromanaging this project. That tells me that he believes in some core principles. And that's it. He doesn't seem like a shill pump and dumper to me.

>>6066617
people will buy for 20%. The only people who will let btcp sit in their wallet is people who care about the coin. A common misconception about rich people is they arent penny pinchers. If I had 10btc got 10 btcp for free, i'd take it to the exchange immediately

>>6066654
>no founder rewards
Yeah he didn't accumulate a shit tonne before he announced the fork or anything Im sure....

>>6062122
>>6061914
>>6061876
>>6061731
biz only shills coins that are in dumps for days or already "mooning" ZCP is a good hodl and /biz/ dont like that

>>6062128
I wish i all-in in it but since TRX is 50% and has been shitting bed ill have to keep it>>6062326
>>6062326
rhetts the mannnn, you cant argue his compentancy

>>6066617
>>6066553
ZCL will initial dump but is gonna be worked on still so im sure it will recover at least 20% soon after fork

>>6063648
Lol at the fucking retards replying to you 'DURRR U DNT UNDERSTAND FREE MONEY'


This coin is an absolute scam and everything you raise is right.

Not to mention RHETT CRAIGHTON has abandoned several projects such as zcash, zclassic, zencash, and now he works on whalecoin (a social network for whales to dump on newbs I shit you not).


I don't care, I have morals. You faggots are no better than that jew larper Weeve which convinced people on youtube and sam hyde to sell all their stack of etherium at $150 for tezos lol.


BTCP has as much value offering as zcl, which was proven VUNERABLE in the silkroad 2.0 raid. Only monero was safe. Keep chasing shit biz shills and lose all your money. Cutthroats have no incentive other than greed to dump their bags they bought at $2 and inflated to $100+

as a poorfag, should i put more money int othis
i have like 10 zcl and it's 60% of my portfolio

>>6068001
>as a poorfag

as an actual poorfag, fuck you

also yes

>>6067988
What a waste of dubs

>>6068056
Don't listen to this fag. If it hits 5 billion market cap with the forked coins it's only $250!
NOT WORTH IT INVEST IN LOW MARKET COINS THAT HAVE FOCUSED ON TECH NOT DISCORD MARKETING SHILLS AND PAJEETS FROM UPWORK THAT ARE CHECKING THE CODE COPYPASTE.

>>6068116
What a waste of life.

>>6066318
ride the hype to 1k at least

>>6068353

>>6068183
>>6068353
wow when did you sell? at $100? calm down Wojak

>>6068183
>>6068353
>tfw miss out on mooning coin

i know the feel bro, not me this time though ;)

>>6061731
How far can this go? Will I be able to effort an prios?

>>6068663
>>6068717
he should get off /biz/ my trx bags just hurt when staring at these mooning LINKIES and dumb fuk POE coins... feel so much better not seeing what i missed

How do I buy this coin???

bittrex sign ups closed

>>6068993
if you have no account on an exchange that you can buy this with, you've missed out

>>6068993
Cryptopia

>>6068183
are you the sub 50 iq retard that sold 90% of your ZCL stack very early and only left with 11 ZCL and bitter on ZCL threads from $30 until now? get a life and get rid of the crab mentality. Anyway, thanks for you, some retard sold at $100, make ZCL consolidate and rest nicely before blasting to $200 healthily.

>>6067988
>dubs of salt
you must have sold at $80 kek

Them asians herd is coming.

I'm all in on this. If something goes wrong and it crashes I will unironically hang myself.

have 4.8 zcl , is selling 3.8 before the fork a good idea

>>6061731
i had 60 ZCL that i bought at about 15$ but i sold them for at about 100$... I think im just going to get back in at this point fuck it. lets go. I have missed like 10 moon missions and im fucking sick of this shit

>>6069141
>>6068993
^
this

>>6069177
No I never bought zcl in the first place because it was a prepumped scam.


I bought sumo at $2.30 and sold at $11.50 while you fags were buying zcl. Big difference is that coin has privacy promise and isn't going to be given free to btc fags.


Poor choice on rhett's part to hire shills. Their shills are so cringy and threads inorganic. Slowly they are adapting and think they're smart by posting retarded wojaks haha

>>6069936
No, 2 max

>>6069936
Sell at the fork, that's what I'm doing. I'm scared it's going to crash hard within milliseconds and I'm not going to make it and lose half my money though.

>>6070122
it is hard to believe someone dont want to buy and dont have interest in ZCL posts/try hard this much.

Anyway, you missed some big gain just like the sub 50 iq retard I saw on most of the ZCL threads, also try hard like you, you 2 styles are really similar...

>>6070122
What a fucking bitter faggot, stay poor

>>6069968
Gona get burned anon btcp will be less than btcgold

>>6070360
why

>>6067667
honestly he has no team or money, btcp won't go far without that

>>6062678
I regret buying this instead of DBC which is up 30% while this is is down 10%.

>>6070327
>>6070355
I care about people getting scammed by people like rhett craighton.


Isn't he your posterboy? Your lead dev? The one pulling the pajeets on discord?


Why do you never mention him? Are you ashamed? Are you afraid people will research his past?


You are afraid, and you don't talk about Rhett because all it takes is a potential investor to look 2 minutes into his past and see all the projects he abandoned to nope the fuck out of ZCL.


I post because I care about my fellow human being. You do not.

>>6070558
the same can be said about bitcoin
it is if the product is good enough, it will endure and prevail
this is the best privacy coin, coupled with btc brand, coupled with fairness (no founders reward)
the product is good enough to become something great, but it might be a bumpy ride

>>6070707
same. i put 6k into dbc and 25k into this... oh well

>>6065709
yes

>>6070755
i hope you're right so i don't have to kill myself yet

>>6070752
>I care about people getting scammed
sure thing anon, sure you do.
And also that why people listened to pajeets like you missed the train from $30 to $200, whatever you interpret it, they missed the gain.

> rhett craighton
so you think whoever invests or want to buy ZCL dont know about Rhett? is his name/info really that hard to find? what kind of retards you hangout with?

>>6070990
He's a literal shill for "Hush". He was spamming the fake tweets from Rhett here yesterday.

>>6071062
I know he is the same person that bitter on every ZCL threads, his try hard style, his whalecoin mentioned, his name calling manenr from $30 until now. Really pathetic and crab mentality. he actually stop some anon to make respectable gain.

Highest price for NXT pre-fork was a good couple of days prior. I'll sell 60% of my bag there and let the rest ride. Got in at 50k sat by blindly buying every privacy coin on a whim

>>6061731
Buy UFR instead
>get paid to torrent
>paying a tiny bit for them will make them downloading them fast as shit
>low as fuck marketcap
>if you buy now you won't FOMO later
Nothing can go wrong tbf.

>>6070779
ouch, i have 4x DBC than ZCL, although its like 5x now

>>6071266
I notice him too, what a fucking loser, his salt level is off the chart.
>>6071390
no need to hijack ZCL thread -.-, create your own.

>>6071445
i bought zcl at 185 and dbc at .13, i'm still making money so i'm not too bummed. hopefully zcl doesn't make me lose everything

>>6070752
Can you post some sources/evidence for your claims? If this guy is really the cunt you claim, I'd be interested in learning more.

>>6071600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJAXH2FN9Dc&

Watch him shill bcash to richard heart. Observe his body language, observe how he acts when rich calls him out for jumping coins from zcl to zen to whale. His logic is 'it doesn't hurt anyone since its free coins' from the forks and uses it to justify the pump and dumps he's been a part of.

Also just look up whalecoin, he is the lead and dev.

>>6071823
rich is the scam artist

>>6061731
just pure scamcoin on scamcoin action

>>6065709
I'm reading through this thread and thought it was BCPT. BTCP is something else though and I don't know what's going on.

if you actually buy the top of this you're an idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDS1fy-0Go&list=PLMBYy3lWO3DkhrYueEJV4SxYPJwahxf3R&index=7

What do you guys think of this interview?

>>6071823
>His logic is 'it doesn't hurt anyone since its free coins'

And he's wrong because? Why are you even posting on /biz/ if you hate making money so much lmao.

>>6072044
I think it's awesome. Made me a lot more comfy.

>>6072077
Why? It doesn't seem very organized, he can't really pull this off on his own. Even the interviewers agreed.

>>6072052
Rich get richer and the poor get dumped on.

>>6072113
from the interviewer Tai Zen

>>6072325
how do they get dumped on

>>6072368
shiiiit.

is it time to get out?

>>6072989
I would say not yet, I have at least 3 reasons it will continue to go at least 300~400 but it is your call, if get out make you comfortable and sleep well then just get out.

>>6070432
Btc holders are going to dump on you shits, and its going to be annother gay btc fork. Ooh its private like any other altcoin, people really dont care about such privacy even if there selling drugs.

Smart money will dump before the fork.

>>6071823
omfg it's you. Yeah watch Richard Heart call a man in his mid 30s a "good kid" dozens of times. Rhett is not a fucking kid, how rude.

How does any of that make it sound like people should get out?
Rhett has instilled surprising amounts of confidence in me that he'll get this done, and they're seemingly quite serious about it. Just look at the bounties they've given out to community programmers to get shit done that they've needed pre-fork.