/biz/ - Business & Finance

This peaked at the raiblocks stage, move on old man

>>59547367
so what you're telling me is

you had 10 years to accumulate

the fastest, feeless

chosen coin

at ~$1

and you didn't do it because...?

should i buy nano long term?

>>59547517
yes and short term

>>59547589
>589
HAHHAHAHHAAH WHAT ARE THE ODDS

RIDDLERS HAVE CONFIRMED THAT IS IT GUYS

NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE BUT ITS ALMOSDT TTIME

>>59547272
Nano is not free, can't scale, and is wide open to spam attacks. Nano's claim in their whitepaper about unlimited scaling is absolutely rubbish. It's just as crazy as me stating that I will go the moon using my bicycle, proudly claiming that my speed is unlimited, only restricted by my muscle strength and I am getting stronger and stronger for each day, and very soon I will be strong enough to get such a high speed that I will jump to the moon. Ridiculous. Do they have any written plan for 100 000 TPS? Any cost analysis? ETH and other competitors will roll out 100K to 1 million TPS in a matter of months/year.

Nano has done zero cost analysis for 100 000 TPS bandwidth, CPU, and IO. Random volunteers are supposed to take costs involving millions of USD each year, working on the network 24/ with no downtime, holidays, Christmas etc. Nano has done nothing to provide how it is feasible for Nano to reach 100 000 TPS within the next years. However, imagining it's possible, Nanoids admits that Amazon and large operators like them will take all the costs and burdens of operating the system. That's a clear and open single point of failure (SPOF) and is the very reason why people choose crypto currencies over banks and centralized payment systems. That Nano is not able to identify a clear and basic SPOF in their system is worrisome on multiple levels.

Pic Nano hodler getting assraped since January 2018 by the Nano Devs, Italian scammers, and the market, buying some more, while screaming:
"2 da moooOooooooOooon!!!"

>>59547272
OP is a scammer. Nano Foundation is bankrupt and nobody will invest in their scam project after reading this thread:
>>/biz/thread/16596049

>>59547860
>Random volunteers are supposed to take costs involving millions of USD each year, working on the network 24/ with no downtime
it's completely true, impossible to disprove, and is the ultimate reason for why Nano is $1 and not $1000 after 10 years

>Nano fudder is back
bullish

>>59547937
Nexa has 50K TPS during real-world stress testing. They will roll out multiple 100K TPS in a short time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFYwaSv8Ik

What do you have?

>>59547937
It's a bot designed to stop /biz/ from accumulating lol

>>59548368
Go back Nano scammer and take your deranged spamming redditors with you, pic related.

>>59548440
I'll go back, as soon as you explain how tokenization solves any real world problems

>>59548474
You might have hundreds of millions in assets (houses, hotels, a farm) but if you have little or no profit, even revenue in some cases, you are still poor with little or no money to spend, or worse, if something happens you are forced to dump your assets on the market and sell them way below market price. Assets/businesses you wanted to continue to have, but are being forced to sell due to unforeseen circumstances. Or you could go to the bank and get a very expensive loan, with the risk of one more calamity, and you are defaulting on the loan so the bank takes over your assets. Or the bank is forcing you to hire the incompetent clown of a nephew of the bank manager, or whatever. ALL that is negated by tokenization. You can just sell a handful of your tokens and get the money you need, so no harm done, and may even buy them back later. That's it. Plus you have a global asset market where you can buy a hotel or whatever, all over the world. If you have a good business idea, you don't have to go to the bank but can raise capital in a matter of days on a global market financial market. Etc, etc. Tokenization will change the world.

Now, go back to plebbit, tourist.

>>59548546
Blockchain doesn't provide ownership, see right-click save monkey jpegs

What happens if you send your hotel token to the wrong address and now a hotel just has a permanently empty room because it's wrong on the blockchain :')

Guess I'm staying here lol

>>59548558
You have seriously no clue what the hell you are talking about.
https://x.com/ubat152/status/1863835204554563919

>>59548600
buzzwordbuzzwordbuzzword

What happens when I send my hotel room token to the wrong address on the unchangeable, immutable blockchain?

>>59548368
yeah right, stopping everyone from accumulating during 10 years KEK with lower highs and lower lows

>>59549276
yes

>>59549481
> check the XNO/BTC chart
> all red for the past 7 years, straight.
Kek, ok

>>59549527
> check the btc adoption
Kek, ok

>>59549565
> my shitcoin with unproven stability and 0 adoption is going to suddenly become the next big thing

>>59549588
this but unironically

billions must buy

>>59549599
I just bought 100 XNO just to hedge then. If worldwide adoption I'm golden, kek

>>59549664
how does $1300000 (after Elon makes the announcement?)

more if you hold till EOY

>>59549738
*sound

>>59547272
How did Nano address the BitGrail hack? 17,000,000 XNO in a supply of 133,248,297 is not insignificant

>>59549767
I guess it didn't and explains each exit pump

>>59549767
Pretty sure some of the recovered funds are being paid out, à la Mt Gox (this alone should make you bullish)

Then you have the fact that during the bit grail law suit, the judge dismissed with prejudice the notion that nano is a security, practically granting it status as a currency

>>59549738
>how does $1300000 (after Elon makes the announcement?)
lol always crazy lies from Nano scammers. Like this one:

>Nano scammers lied about Mastercard VP endorsing Nano
>>/biz/thread/S28856161

>>59549795
the bot's back

answer:

>>59548668

>>59549738
How is it going with your PayPal lie that you have spammed nonstop for multiple years?

>>59549804
You can keep spamming but I'm just going to ask you to answer the question

>>59548668

>>59549738
Are you still bankrupt and living under a bridge after your crashed Nano investments, or did you really hit jackpot when Bank of America started to use Nano 4 sure that you Nanners spammed so many years?

>>59549831
Now answer the question.

>>59548668

>>59549738
I think Bitgrail trustees still have 3 million Nano left that will be dumped on the market when they are finished, and I believe they had last payment to regular claim holders, so guess that could be anytime now. Imagine the shock. Imagine the price with 3 million nanners dumped on the market. lol.

>>59549841
Now answer the question.

>>59548668

blud's programming didn't cover the kill shot question :')

if you're human on /biz/ and seeing this then pay attention

>>59549858
You are too low IQ to understand it and I am not your unaccredited community college for challenged kids in da hood. Ask Colin, maybe he will promise to tell you and scam you out of your last cent. He has done it before.

>>59549910
Pay attention

Unable to answer

Dedicated to spamming the thread of a sub rank 300 coin

Goodnight /biz/

I hope I helped you see

just read that Nano didn't hard fork after the BitGrail hack, despite 12% of the XNO supply being stolen. why would anybody invest money in this project if there is now a persistent risk of double-spending attacks?

>>59549917
Nice reddit spacing, faggot.

Maybe you shouldn't hire a Chief Operating Officer who was previously a bikini blogger with NO experience, education, knowledge or contacts in the tech world. Most relevant on her CV would be "solo traveler for 3 years" and "artist". Pic related (message on pizza in front of topless Nano COO says "fuck me"). For some reason, her instagram account, freshgingerr, is now private after pics were dumped on /biz/.

>>59547272
Nano's fast and feeless - and the protocol's only getting better :)

>>59549942
how does stolen nano create a risk of double-spend

>>59550773
that's a literal bot, don't bother

>>59549969
with XNO experience you say?

Sounds like a good fit

>>59547367
i agree with this even tho i have a small stack in case reddit makes it happen again

>>59547868
based chad saving noobs from this scam

>>59550773
it's not that it's stolen, it's that it is 12% of the supply and that it's stolen. somebody just needs 39% more of the supply (which would only cost $518,700 at the current price of XNO) and they could engage in double spending attacks

>>59552837
>just needs 39% more
>would only cost $518,700
>implying they haven't already sold the stolen XRB
Yup, you're retarded

captcha:XRP8H

>>59552746
Explain the mechanism of the scam

>>59552859
remember the other cryptocurrency that chose the philosophy of the project over hardforking? ETC? remind everyone ITT where they are today

>>59552883
>Explain the mechanism of the scam
OK, what about this:

Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.

BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH
>Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2]
>Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3]
>Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6].
>Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged ‘maintenance’.
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to ‘KYC’ excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged ‘pending withdrawals’, which were never processed [11].
>Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems.
>Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12]
>Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.

>>59553253
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (1 of 2)

>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14].
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15].
>Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15].
>Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors.
>Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17].
>Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18].
>Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19]
>Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21]
>Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22]
>Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23]
>Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25]
>Mica Busch (Nano dev): ‘‘funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity’’ [26]
>Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]

>>59553258
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (2 of 2)

>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13].
>Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; ‘10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail’ [2] and repost under different headline ‘I need some help with tracing funds’ [1].
>Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4].
>Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. ‘Developers are taking care of that’ [31].

>>59553268
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES POST-BIGRAIL CRASH

>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32]
>Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41].
>BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims.
>After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37].
>Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38].
>Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40].

>>59553271
Can't post link as system thinks it is spam now, but links are here:
>>/biz/thread/11755449

>>59552883
>Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail

While both Nano and Bitgrail leaders told nano investors that Bitgrail was safe and not compromised, http://archive.is/dOMVA, they themselves took all their assets, over $100 million, and moved it as fast as hell away from Bitgrail, hiding their assets, while telling everyone that Bitgrail was OK and perfectly safe. This is why neither Nano dev team, nor Bitgrail, have done any kind of investigation who stole the money, where are stolen Nanos now, where are the thief. Firstly they just don't care, they are now rich, secondly there is too much criminal activity from both sides that none of them want to be investigated and exposed. They prefer darkness, secrecy and that all their crimes will just fade away. This will not happen. Multiple lawsuits are pending and coming. Nano tech is flawed and does not function under pressure, http://archive.is/Vva8Z, Nano is Bitconnect 2.0

>>59553306
Colin dumped millions of xrb in May from private wallets when there was Nano Binance Competition (100kk+ USD VOL.)
He chose a good moment for send to Binance. Who gives a dam about Nano and Bitgrail's victims who suffered a stolen.
Guess they had some special developer donation account before actual one which exists now.
I'll explain you so maybe you'll figure out.

Old developer donation account:
https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3wm37qz19zhei7nzscjcopbrbnnachs4p1gnwo5oroi3qonw6inwgoeuufdp

The first address that recieved a nano from Old Developer Donation was this:
https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3pg6xswkroybxydyzaxybb1h531sx34omiu7an9t9jy19f9mca7a36s7by5e
(Colin's account)

https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3pg6xswkroybxydyzaxybb1h531sx34omiu7an9t9jy19f9mca7a36s7by5e
(Colin's account connected to the old developer donation account)

2. https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_11iaqa1oppdxzawrbuzh4m5y78i9zngnhwp8urpup97fsf7k8e84gf61ei75
(Colin's private wallet)

3. https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_31kxdcjafw5k5w4u3h9uo7yctkawcjkegnwaqjr1jqq3tanu8bp6m4obru7a
(Colin's private wallet)

2. and 3. are connected to the 1.

https://www.nanode.co/block/BE548A457F28A42119FB22373303690DAB5F40811E4E87643A15267827D6C138
This is the first transaction when old developer donation account sent to this account back in 2016.

Picture is from 02.12.2017
https://i.imgur.com/KEwsZsY.jpg

>>59552883
lol

>>59552883
Just tragic.

>>59552883
Hello there, I am Nano dev, Zack Shapiro. Hope you Nano fans enjoyed me dumping my million heavy bags on your heads, while Nano was crashing, the very bags I got out from Bitgrail while you were stuck and tried to get your "KYC" from Bomber (lol). We were on the phones the whole day with bomber to get those 1.5 million Nano out, right before the "hack" and BitGrail was officially insolvent.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/7xqxqu/500_thousand_nano_was_moved_today_out_of_one_of/duaj73z/

In addition, I had to tweet like crazy to the small people, the ungrateful Nano "investors" that were pestering us all the time with their, *whiny voice* "I have 8.3 Nano and I am so worried Zack, please help me". The worst part of living in America is dealing with white people. They will never be winners. He, he, he, he...Take that as a lesson schmucks, don't listen to guys on the internet, like me, when doing financial decisions. Pic is me before you gave me my millions of $$. Aaaah, life is gooOOooOod. L'chaim!

>>59552883
The super-cucked Nano "investors" and findom plebbit perverts don't even know that George owned 100% of Appia, and then Nano Foundation bought shares from Appia and the holding changed. thus, Nano Foundation (Colin) bought shares from George for £100k. https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/e10hkd/nano_foundation_and_appia/

Luckily, Nano "investors" can easily identify the whales dumping on them. And that is at least something, r-r-ryte Nano boiz? Pic is Nano Foundation in Monaco. Text on Instagram: Casual breakfast overlooking abramovich's yacht

>>59553353
Nano Foundation is now bankrupt.

>>59552883
Pic Nano's Chief Operating Officer showing Colin, Nano findom "investors" and all the "misogynists" in the tech industry her...ahem.. "job qualifications" as a Chief Operating Officer (COO) for a 4,5 Billion USD ATH Mcap crypto project.

>>59552883
How on earth could Nano Foundation burn through tens of millions of dollars so fast?

>>59552883
>>59553533
It's a mystery.

>>59552883
>>59553533
I guess we will never know.

>>59552883
Nano has some of the worst distribution in crypto. For many, Nano Foundation dumping Nano worth 300 000 USD on Nano bagholders each month sounds insane. Well, not so much when Colin is using funds from Nano Foundation to fight private messy divorce and slander accusations in court.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.746752/gov.uscourts.cacd.746752.1.0.pdf

After dumping like a madman, Colin claims to have only 5-6 million Nano left.
Colin is angry that confidential information was leaked from this lawsuit and confidential settlement agreement:
https://decrypt.co/6396/nano-cryptocurrency-seeks-dismissal-170-million-rescue-fork-lawsuit

From Nano Foundations/Colins lawsuit:
>They tell their customers 'if you really believe in Nano ..... go to this small exchange in Italy that we don't know anybody and we have nothing to do but we completely vouch for him and he's running a legitimate exchange', we're gonna [sic] give him the Nano, he's gonna [sic] give us money every time he sells a Nano, he's gonna [sic] take half and we're gonna take half, we're gonna [sic] get rich and then one day there's gonna [sic] be an exit scam and then you're gonna [sic] be out $150 million."
> Mr. LeMahieu and the other Nano developers face the prospect of a jail sentence in a current Federal action

>>59549787
>Then you have the fact that during the bit grail law suit, the judge dismissed with prejudice the notion that nano is a security, practically granting it status as a currency
Where the hell did you get this from and when will they dump the 3 million nanners on the market, crashing the nanner price into oblivion?

>>59553715

>>59552746
Thank you fren.

>>59553253
there was a lawsuit and only the exchange was found to be at fault

can you explain why?

>>59553715
It's in the court docs, I'll go find it after you answer me about what happens to my hotel room when I send hotelroom101 token to the wrong address on the Blockchain

>>59552837
double spending requires 67% of Nano, fwiw. Regardless, supply is 133M, 39% is 51.8M, which at current prices would cost $83M.

>>59553799
>there was a lawsuit and only the exchange was found to be at fault
>can you explain why?
Yes. Nano Foundation and Espen Enger have a very shady and dark history before Espen Enger decided to exit scam with the Bitgrail Victim's money:

>Nano's core dev Shapiro, despite knowing about Bitgrail's problems did multiple times publicly endorse Bitgrail and encouraged people to invest and convinced them to stay in, to not sell their Bitgrail.
>Tens of thousands of people who would have got out ended up losing everything because of this.
>There were people who committed suicide as a consequence of this
>While key Nano dev Shapiro was telling concerned investors not to worry (as normal investors had their accounts and ability to withdraw frozen) the Nano devs and their friends were withdrawing and funneling out tens of millions of dollars, both before and after the "hack" was publicly known
>These are the people Espen Enger sold out to and banned Bitgrail victims from criticising.

Espen Enger
>Enger promised 100% transparency and to fight for the interests of the Bitgrail victims
>Very soon he had a meeting with Nano foundations lawyer - the outcome and contents of the meeting remain a secret to date.
>Soon after the meeting with Nano Foundation, he got non Bitgrail mods to monitor discord and ban/silence any actual Bitgrail victims who were critical of the Nano devs and the Nano team’s involvement
>Espen Enger said that he just "knew" that the Bitgrail victims had no legal case against Nano Foundation, so he decided to protect the Nano Foundation
>Nano foundation still won’t answer questions regarding (a) what the meeting with Espen Enger was about (b) how much money they paid him and (c) what happened to the money

>It is now clear that Espen Enger had a dirty deal to protect Nano Foundation, exit scammed, lost 100 BTC due to bad trades, and then committed suicide
Espen Børke Enger site:https://jolstad.vareminnesider.no/

>>59553253
Sure, you want me to look at all those links? Have you looked at each one? The first one I looked at, [15], the discussion in the link people think it's a legit whale - how you can assert with confidence it's an account connected to Nano devs, and the intention behind when it was moved and why

Fwiw, I don't think a hacked exchange implicates anyone who could have been operating in good faith and recommending it as a fair exchange. Is everyone who recommended a friend use FTX guilty, if they didn't know what was going on behind the scenes? You said yourself, "CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets"

>>59553533
>>59553554
>>59553562
>>59553604
I see you're trying to prove that the money was blown on luxury trips and shit - I don't know the timeline, and I don't necessarily think that implicates anyone. Every crypto founder was spending their money on stupid shit between 2017-2021. I'm open to seeing more evidence if you have it - timelines, etc. Screenshots with '119w' ago don't help.
Also, lol at the picture of Colin on a boat. That picture screams white middle class America. That picture in particular proves nothing, everyone has an uncle or a friend that has a boat on a lake they drink beers on.

>>59553818
This is an issue with literally every crypto currency? If you accidentally send crypto to the wrong address, you're fucked. Either at the whim of the account owner to send it back, or you're just 100% fucked and sent it to an unowned public key with no way to get it back. This is like the #1 benefit of private centralized institutions (credit card chargebacks) and the big issue with crypto being decentralized
Are you making this criticism of just Nano, or every crypto?

>>59553818
>It's in the court docs,
Then show me the court docs and every crypto asset was treated the same. Nothing special with Nano, and stating Nano thus is a currency is insane. You are clearly an insider and Nano scammer, so tell me when you will dump the 3 million nanners on the innocent Nano victims. Are you looking for exit liquidity faggot? Is this the reason why the hystericaly Nano spamming lately?

Tokenization of hotel rooms makes zero sense and will most likely never be done, however if it happened, you would have a smart contract where you pay with crypto and you will get your hotel room registered on the ledger that you can use as proof when you come to the hotel, or you get access to the hotel room automatically. etc.

Turning an illiquid asset like real estate into a liquid asset class is huge and will revolutionize the financial sector. That alone will make tokenization a dominant factor in the future.

>>59554002
>Every crypto founder was spending their money on stupid shit between 2017-2021
No, they didn't, plus Colin and George were doing it while Nano investors experienced one of the largest hacks in crypto history up until that point, third-largest I think and many lost everything and committed suicide. On top of that all the lying, including their fake 7000 tps claim, when both BTC and ETH were clogged, and only reason why anybody has heard of Nano, and the reality was only 85 TPS. They lied again, and scammed etc. Nano is shady as hell. Always has been. And no bankrupt and raging globohomo as well.

>>59554002
>how you can assert with confidence it's an account connected to Nano devs
I gave you all the links, faggot. Pic is Nano devs and friends getting KYC from bomber, while retail investors were stuck and later lost everything.

>>59553982
>(a) what the meeting with Espen Enger was about (b) how much money they paid him and (c) what happened to the money
https://blog.nano.org/nano-foundation-announces-legal-fund-for-bitgrail-victims-b5a39cf02fa8
Also I don't think NF needs to like, enumerate every line item and minutes of every meeting. It's fucked up that people committed suicide - but to say the NF was like, nefarious and complicit in doing that without more evidence is just not a logical connection. Are you suggesting they knew the exchange was being hacked, or about to be hacked? All based on that one whale's account who was able to move money while withdrawals were closed?

>>59554051
>their fake 7000 tps claim,
agreed, there was a very early graphic showing 7000tps - I believe that was made considering the database as the only bottleneck, when clearly there's other bottlenecks in play. Agreed this was a mistake to shout this number on a megaphone

>>59554002
Here they admit that they are connected to the 1.5 million Nano transaction AFTER the hack and supposedly all assets in Bitgrail were frozen.

>>59554071
>Agreed this was a mistake
Yeah, totally a "mistake" when everybody in crypto outside plebbit knew you were lying. Even Vitalik called you out in public. You didn't care, just spamming the hell out of plebbit with your fake data that you knew were a joke and misleading.

>>59554071
>Agreed this was a mistake
Yeah, totally a "mistake" when everybody in crypto outside plebbit knew you were lying. Even Vitalik called you out in public. You didn't care, just spamming the hell out of plebbit with your fake data that you knew were a joke and misleading.

>>59554025
So what happens to the hotel room? Is it just left abandoned forever?

My point being, the only usecase for the blockchain is payments.

>>59553982
So they weren't found guilty because... ?
You still haven't explained how the nano devs are responsible for an exchange they don't control collapsing.

>>59554051
>Nothing special with Nano
Except the fact that it was distributed for free and therefore not a security
>Nano scammer
What's the scam?

>Turning an illiquid asset like real estate
OK what happens if someone sends their realestatetoken to the wrong address? Is it just left abandoned forever?

>Nano investors experienced one of the largest hacks in crypto
I used bitgrail at the time but withdrew my XRB to my own wallet. Savy investors knew how dodgy exchanges were even back in those days

>>59554093
>knew you were lying
>called you out in public
>You didn't care,
>with your fake data that you knew were a joke
lol who do you think you're talking to??

>>59554103
>You still haven't explained how the nano devs are responsible for an exchange they don't control collapsing.
Did Nano work closely with Bitgrail or not? Did Nano claim that everything was fine with Bitgrail, despite knowing something was seriously wrong or not. Did Nano devs and their friends get their assets out both before and after the hack or not?

>>59554103
>So what happens to the hotel room? Is it just left abandoned forever?
what are we talking about? Yes, if you send an asset in a smart-contract crypto to an unowned or incorrect account the asset might be abandoned forever. I agree this is an issue with every crypto. Nano only does payments, no smart contracts - I really don't understand, are you arguing for or against nano?

>>59554071
More scam and sketchy behaviour from Nano.

>>59554121
>Yes, if you send an asset in a smart-contract crypto to an unowned or incorrect account the asset might be abandoned forever
So that means putting assets on the blockchain will never, ever be a reality

> I really don't understand, are you arguing for or against nano?
Nano is not relevant to this topic. Nano is a currency

>>59554117
Hey, isn't that the same dev you reference as having no faith in nano? Sounds like he was a liability, glad he left the team!

> Did Nano devs and their friends
AKA, anyone that knew a single shred about the crypto industry (not your keys etc)

>>59554103
>realestatetoken
That's a security you idiot. Tokenization of securities and commodities are not the same, moron.

>>59554002
>Also, lol at the picture of Colin on a boat. That picture screams white middle class America
That's not the point. Would you buy a used car from that guy? We all know his moral character now, but it could be easily seen before that.

Pic, a total lie from the Nano scammers.

>>59554148
Real estate was the example you used? Do you want to provide a better example?

>>59554163
Reality, 75 TPS, only released after the devastating crash. Around 1% of the claim they lied about. Everybody knew they were lying >>59554102

>>59554169
Why don't you just answer questions instead of continuing your broken record?

>>59554124
lol so every italian is guilty now?? NF is prohibited from working with italians

>>59554163
>a total lie from the Nano scammers.
"in a test environment"
how much money did you lose in Nano when Bitgrail got hacked

>>59554169
recent beta network tests hitting >1,000CPS, with spam prevention features - bucketing, time as a currency, bounded backlog - in place, btw. TPS is CPS / 2.

>>59554071
>Are you suggesting they knew the exchange was being hacked, or about to be hacked? All based on that one whale's account who was able to move money while withdrawals were closed?
No, Nano devs told their friends to get the hell out of Bitgrail, while they told retail investors everything was fine.

>>59554219
Also promoted by NF without the "test environment" disclaimer. Pic.

>how much money did you lose in Nano when Bitgrail got hacked
I knew they were lying about their TPS so I got out, but I had to see suicide goodbye messages in Nano community and friends I had there. And the way Colin and George handled it was just disgusting.

>>59554219
Forgot pic.

>>59554240
The crux of this issue is the difference between an exchange exit scamming, and an exchange getting hacked.
No, you shouldn't keep your coins on an exchange because it could be hacked. No, that doesn't mean the exchange is exit scamming. These are different.

>>59554271
>I knew they were lying about their TPS so I got out, but I had to see suicide goodbye messages in Nano community and friends I had there.
that really sucks, I'm sorry that happened to you. It can't be easy to get caught up in the dark side of crypto, stay safe out there.

>>59554229
You have been lying about that for years. There is no way in hell you will have 1,000CPS, with spam prevention features, with your crazy and broken vaporware protocol. All of your former devs admit that and left.

>>59554281
You are not adressing any of my points and you do not describe the Bitcrail scam truthfully at all. I have provided you timeline and documenation and will not repeat it again.

>>59554288
Thank you.

>>59554305
>and will not repeat it again.
You repeat it in every thread because you're being paid to

Why don't you spam about Mt Gox in every bitcoin thread?

>>59554071
>but to say the NF was like, nefarious and complicit
After Espen Enger had a meeting with NF lawyer, he suddenly changed and banned any kind of criticism of Nano, Nano Foundation etc. Suddenly they had a Bitgrail victim organization that no longer represented them.

>>59554345
And the new mod was of course an outsider and not even a Bitgrail victim. It made zero sense. He banned people like crazy.

>>59554305
How responsible is Firano for what happened with Bitgrail. You've barely mentioned him, the owner of the exchange that got hacked/scammed/etc.

>>59554345
>>59554361
You realise that many people got their money back (and due to prices) managed to buy more nano than they lost?

>>59554305
>You
>you
>you
>your former devs

literally who do you think you're talking to? Do you think I'm Colin or Zach or something? Again, I'm sorry you got caught up in the Bitgrail bullshit, I can tell it still affects you

>>59554229
There is absolutely no way in hell you have 1000 TPS, not sure how much lower TPS is compared to CPS, with that broken vaporware protocol.

Worse, even if true, Nano has a mcap of $214 millions, with no smart contract. While competitors are far ahead even if your fake claims will succeed. Azero is far ahead, with privacy etc. Nexa has only a $15 million mcap with over 50 000 TPS during real-world stress testing. They will roll out multiple 100K TPS in a short time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFYwaSv8Ik

>>59554405
This guy spams EVERY nano thread with the same posts. Check the archive. His main objective is to keep /biz/ out, he is either a bot or a paid fudder. No rational human spends their time this way

>>59554139
>>59554164
>>59554174
>>59554310
>>59554397
>>59554420
You are the same scammer that for years have organized raids on /biz/ to spam your crashed shitcoin so you finally can get some exit liquidity. You never have anything intelligent to say, you never reply to valid critizism, you only spam your retarded canned gibberish and ad hominem attacks, while reporting every post against Nano. Go back to plebbit, faggot.

>>59554405
that's fucking sad

>>59554455
I literally bought in a month ago, meanwhile: >>/biz/image/eMfdYBeh9fF8gpOyLJ8ooA

spamming for 3 years

you STILL haven't explained what happens to my asset on the blockchain after it gets sent to the wrong address LOL

>>59554474
it's THAT easy to send him running!

any neutral observer can see that you were dominated in this debate

but I guess that's why you're paid to fud

>>59550759
bot post

>>59554761
paid fudder

I became a whale with 100k XNO when I sold my ETH in September. I like the coin. I will hold for a year and see what happens. My folio is

6 BTC
20000 LINK
100000 XNO

But I am debating if I should sell XNO for LINK. I won't do it now because I can't touch my wallet. I have ~60k in receivable transactions since September. It is strange.

>>59554868
sell everything for XNO, this is financial advice

Stop dreaming to make Nano become a thing.
Nodes are not incentivized at all
The zero fees is not even demanded by anyone and just comes from nodes not being paid.

That is ALL TO BE SAID

>>59554955
Very organic post

>>59555090
Maximal delusion, you need the picture of my big white cock to make it more organic?

>>59555114
post hand with timestamp

>>59555175
weird, he didn't repsond

>>59555273
Kek you don't deserve my time. What do I gain exactly, 50 iq nig?

>>59555467
But you waste your time fudding at the finish line?

>>59547272
Nano is broken on the protocol level and will never function.

>>59557702
02

>>59557702
03

>>59557702
04

>>59557702
05

>>59554229
>>59554281
>>59554164
George lied in autumn 2020 that it would be a hell of a Christmas for Nano and that they would reach "industrial scale" with their new TPS, aaaaand of course she lied as Nano has always done. Later they lied about Nano funding and did not tell the community that they had been bankrupt for months. Had huge loans, so people looking into their Nano Foundation wallets did not know they were bankrupt despite having assets there.

Colin also lied for years about auditing the initial distribution of Nano, until he finally called it off for good, after having been lying for years to the Nano community that Nano had the best and fairest distribution in crypto. In court documents, he admitted to have been dumping tens of millions of Nano for years, but now, at that time, claimed to only have 5-6 million Nano left. Nobody believed him, as he had all the time operated with a network of hidden wallets, so nobody could ever really know how much Nano he had. Something he always hid from the community.

>>59557698
holy shit

1 minute after I post

chudfud bot goes nuclear

what are the odds ?

in nano I trust

>>59557738
>>59557768
>>59554229
>>59554281
>>59554164
Worse, of course you lying Nanoids are running around with CPS (The tps measure represented is calculated by halving the cps_p90 (the speed at which 90% of the blocks are confirmed)), so you only have 500 TPS at best if you succeed. That's insane. You will never be a global currency with 500 TPS, you need minimum 100 000 TPS with a very good dev team being able to scale up radically in the future, like for example Nexa. If anyone knows a better payment crypto than Nexa, please let me know. Radix is working on one million TPS and they will have a stress test in January, I think. There are so many projects out there light years ahead of totally crashed Nano.

Colin constantly lied about the costs of running a Nano node. He claimed you could use Amazon and it would only cost around 10 bucks. He said that when he knew that there was virtually no load on the network, and that if Nano ever would be used even as a tiny fraction of a global currency, the node operating costs would be astronomical.

VISA is calibrated for 60 000 TPS due to peaks like emergency catastrophe, holidays like Christmas etc. What is Nano's real TPS now? 300 according to last spam test. Crashed every time near 500 blocks per second and network was totally saturated. No way in hell can Nano have the tech to be a global micro-payment system, even if you got people willing to run the nodes for free and take all the costs, 24/7 with no downtime ever and with satisfying decentralization (excluding Colin's backdoor and/or exploit to shut down nodes etc).

On top of that you know that there will be dumped 3 million NANO on the market soon. Every single oldfag has left Nano. Ex-devs openly say they believe Nano is a scam. You know that Nano will never work. Nano is a scam.

>>59557768
You are a scammer. Take your reddit spacing and go back.

>At least Nano hodlers (down 96% from ATH) paid for some social impact 4 women, and that's at least something...r..r..r.ight guys??

>>59557789

>>59557789
>>59557794
>>59557768
Looks like Colin surrounding himself with a bunch of #WomenInTech didn't work out so well. But at least you Nano paypigs got some social impact, ryte guys? 4 billion USD evaporated was worth it, ryte guys??

>>59557768
Can you find a single crypto where the foundation openly hates their community with raging passion, more than now bankrupt Nano Foundation?

you're having the opposite effect with how blatant you're being

>>59557768
>>59557816

>>59557827
No idea what you idiot scammer are trying to say. Something about feeless and that Colin, a mediocre vaporware dev, among all the devs in the world was the only one that found out that "hey guys, let volunteers take all the costs for the network for nothing! That will work! And that we are wide open for spam attacks, due to feeless, that will also work, trust me bros! I'm a genius and all the other devs in the world are morons"!!

>Nano
>Feeless
>Buy some more, kid, you will be rich. Don't forget to tell me when your grandma gets her pension

Again, tell me about a crypto project where the team hates their community more than Nano.

>>59557827
How did you Nano scammers from reddit end up being to the hard left of Facebook? And why did the Nano Foundation spend most of their time fighting systemic racism, and promoting hard open borders, women in tech, no borders, black lives matter etc etc, instead of focusing on tech?

>>59547272
lol, the stupid Nano scammers as always had to run away, and instead of addressing all the concerns and the obvious scam they are doing, they are just posting a new thread, spamming their scam again, as if nothing happened. There is something insane and very evil with these people.
>>59557901

Pic one of many scam raids by the Nano scammers, going on for months, only to crash and be exposed as a giant lie.

>>59558093
hey I know you're not paid enough for this but can you please clarify how real estate on the blockchain works? You still haven't managed to respond.

>>59558192
You have seriously low IQ and you are a scammer. It is much better that you stay the hell away from tokenization and RWA.

>>59558192
>44 posts screaming and furiously retardating
I smell curry, bad rahul, bad

>>59558227
Except your co-worker has 66 posts meanwhile I effortlessly dismantle both of you :')

>>59558202
Yes I will stay away! Especially given how you continuously fail to describe its operation

>>59558238
>effortlessly dismantle
>>59554955
still not even a reply kek

>>59558253
"the best incentive is no incentive"

node operators would be people that utilise the network and have shared incentives to see it succeed (e.g. businesses, exchanges)

David told you this years ago so I didn't think it even required a response

>>59558270
no reply? lel

>>59558270
it's literally false lol....
Node operators still need to be paid for this service, running nodes is EXPENSIVE, especially for HIGH TPS networks.
If you still a single company will pay $5k+ a month to access a payment network, you are more than deluded.

>>59558270
>"the best incentive is no incentive"
>No torrent ever died. Never a problem, we all want torrents to live on forever, it is in our common interest
>Business plan, free public toilets. It will work, some guy pay for the toilet and some guy clean the toilets, for the greater good for the city and environment. Colin's next plan to make money, after Nano crashed

>(e.g. businesses, exchanges)
You mean crazy centralization and thus useless and dangerous as a crypto project.

Pic. Nothing weird about having a bikini blogger with NO experience, education, knowledge or contacts in the tech world, most relevant on her CV would be "solo traveler for 3 years" and "artist", as a Chief Operating Officer for a multi billion dollar mcap crypto project and later Director of Nano Foundation, who later together with dishonest scammer Colin crashed the price of Nano and burned through the reserves of Nano Foundation like a drunken sailor so they went bankrupt.

>>59558317
Good to know that she is one of the most important and prominent #WomenInTech out there. Not concerning at all. It only further proves her speaking point to the EU, media etc, how hard it is for women in tech to succeed, due to all the sexism, misogyny, etc in the tech industry.

>>59558316
>$5k+ a month
Source? Running a node costs as much as a cup of coffee (coffee-node peg). Did you even read the white paper?

>>59558356
>>59558317
Why are you here on a tuesday afternoon spamming as if it's your job?

>>59558360
>Source? Running a node costs as much as a cup of coffee (coffee-node peg).
Oh, yeah, show me your cost analysis for running a node if Nano could ever do 100 000 TPS.

>>59558363
I'll show you things beyond your wildest imaginations... as soon as you explain real estate on the blockchain :')

>>59553253

May your gains be fruitfull and plenty.

XSG is bloated with this nano shillers spam

>>59558360
>>59558367
Nano is not only old tech but also vaporware and insanely inefficient.

>>59558373
True and same to you, fren.

>>59558360
>Source?
my experience running Ethereum, Cardano, Solana, Algorand, Fantom nodes. My experience & logic as a system engineer, tell me that 10-50k TPS makes the requirement become a solid machine: 16GB ram, 2 TB sometimes 10TB (!) SSD, 4-8-core i-5-7 + importantly 10Gbps. The fact that this is EASILY a few thousand a month. A single consensus node on Algorand, that does not relay anything, costs $150-200/month, relay node is $600/month, a single Ethereum node with its slowness is $200/month with $2k upfront. A Solana node is $4-7k a months but some are paying $10k+.
> as much as a cup of coffee
lol, for 0.1 TPS yes sure, probably. The upfront cost is still at least a couple of hundreds, MINIMUM

>>59558390
wait you're buying new node hardware every month? :')

no wonder you're losing money

>>59558390
lol, this.

>>59558398
stop trolling retard, you know it's true just look it up, these are the lowest VPS/rent price. Enjoy loosing your time & money. Imagine thinking people run nodes for free, that's called managing infrastructure, if you ever had a job in your life you would know

>>59558429
>loosing
ESL LOL! HAHAHHAHA AND YOU CALLED ME A PAJEET

>>59558398
Hello friend, I like your thinking. Colin has this free public toilet for everyone idea, and as you so correctly pointed out, a toilet etc you buy only once and not every month. Do you care to chip in with say, 13 public toilets and clean them all every day, for nothing at all, i.e. the public good? In true Nano investor spirit? You also need to buy some of Colin's toilet coins, which he and his girlfriend soon will dump on the market. This is a GREAT business opportunity after Nano sadly failed so hard. Think about all the good times Nano friend! How much money do you have? Are your parents pensioners with lots of assets? Easy to forge their signature, friend? You want to be rich, ryte?

>>59558434
uh?

You already scammed me of my time. I gave everybody factual information, no ideology or speculation, about what it means to run nodes in crypto, the the current lowest rent prices, and upfront costs. I have been a system engineer for 12 years and have been in crypto since December 2015.

Running nodes is costly. It ranges from $100-5k, depending on the tech/chain. The more TPS, the more thousands/month it costs. In any case, it's far above a cup of coffee and far above what ANY company would pay to access a payment network among 150 others.

Fuck you, paid promoter, and fuck the "Nano Foundation" for their mediocrity. I know some individuals with more talent than the entirety of the people who worked there

>>59558398
Just sell everything you have friend. I know you don't have much after all the insane losses in Nano, but you want to be rich, ryte? This toilet token will be the new thing and everyone needs a free public toilet, just imagine the market in all the world's largest cities? Hundreds of millions of customers every day, and the toilet token from Colin on top of it, that he and his girlfriend will be dumping on the market every day? You want to have a life like, pic, ryte?

>>59558446
you meant to say "losing", Mimpreet

>>59558455
Wait, we're renting node hardware now? Previously you said you were buying it all yourself, brand new, every month. I guess that's feasible for you, having been in crypto since 2015 (but posting ITT as if you're on shift lel)

If I were your shift manager, I would call you aside and tell you to stop :')

You're getting absolutely dismantled here and quite frankly drawing an unnatural attention to Nano

To celebrate how I destroyed these 2 clowns

I am now going to STEAL more nano at $1.5

Daylight robbery

>>59558641
You are doing parody, rr.r...ryte??

>>59558649
You are doing your final hour before lunch, right?

>>59558510
> correct my english
I'm a french engineer, I don't give a fuck about your filthy language
>Previously you said you were buying it all yourself, brand new, every month
no one ever said that except you, in the wrong

>>59558659
> 16GB ram, 2 TB sometimes 10TB (!) SSD, 4-8-core i-5-7 + importantly 10Gbps. The fact that this is EASILY a few thousand a month
>I'm a french
Well that explains a lot

>>59558657
Weird psychological projection there, Mumbai Nano friend.

Pic (you)

>>59558665
Yes having actual industry experience with cloud infrastructure & hardware costs is very useful to counter retards argument online

>>59558682
So why did you count the hardware (single purchase) as a monthly cost? Was it a language barrier thing Pierre?

PSA! I just bought another $208000 worth of XNO for your daily fud wage

>>59558699
Normally you Nano scammers say you just bought 500 000 nanners, you really have crashed a lot you guys...

>>59558699
I don't know why you pretend I'm not clear, everybody talks about monthly operating costs. Renting is the most common way to operate. Buying hardware is similar, you can assume 20% decrease if you run for a longer time, still the same kind of orders of magnitude. (You usually have to rent to get a 10Gbps node, the connectivity is essential in addition to large storage & strong CPU unit).
> just bought
you should have clicked the green button, not the red one

>>59558721
HAHAHA so you're paying $1000s for 16gb (SIXTEEN GB) of ram???? And a WoAHHHHH.... a 1TB SSD..!!!!1!

Even /v/ knows more about hardware than you holy shit

>>59558742
> talks about RAM when it's the least important part.
Yep. Welcome to the real world, retard.
> ignores electricity 24/7 cost
> ignores Internet access cost
Pic rel is the lowest current hardware prices

>>59558769
So a 1 time cost of $1k?

That's what is prohibitively expensive?

To large businesses, financial institutions and exchanges?

a MID-RANGE GAMING pc?

The ABSOLUTE STATE of France

>>59558816
No response. France flying a white flag

>>59548668
Your fault. Shouldn't have sent it to the wrong address, retard. You know we have copy and paste now, right?

>>59558816
>>59558875
you seem unhinged crazy online person. I was just making some $$, before I could get back to my least important priority, educating you retard. (for the good of humanity, desu)

See Pic Rel for full information. Prices are a worldwide average. We have significantly lower Bandwidth costs in France, fyi.

>>59559024
Now explain what happens to that piece of real estate in the real world. Is it just left their unoccupied for eternity? What happens if some homeless people get in?

>>59559060
idk why you got chatGPT to (once again) tell me that you're looking at a mid-range gaming PC. The PC I'm using rn ratios those specs and I'm not a large business or an exchange

>I was just making some $$
Maybe you can afford 32gb of ram now lmfao

>>59559110
> The PC I'm using rn ratios those specs and I'm not a large business or an exchange
how is that relevant, my PC also exceeds those specs, so what

THE POINT, FUCKING RETARD, THAT NO ONE WILL SPEND THIS TO ACCESS THE NANO NETWORK

NANO IS RETARDED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF INCENTIVES
AND ZERO FEES IS NOT AN INNOVATION, ITS A NON SENSE PROMISE FOR RETARDS

AND THEY DID SCAM A LOT OF TARDS IN 2018
SIMPLE AS

>>59559110
>Now explain what happens to that piece of real estate in the real world
In the real world, these transactions would be automated by computer systems and exchange markets. Nobody is going to be manually typing in or copy pasting wallet addresses you fucking retard.

>>59559132
I doubt it given that you're here fudding for pennies. Post your rig rn. I'll also be picking up a 5090 for Ӿ0.2

>THAT NO ONE WILL SPEND THIS TO ACCESS THE NANO NETWORK
Now explain why there are many nodes already on the nano network. Literal 14 year olds have set them up

>>59559142
>mistakes never happen
>keys never get lost
This... is your argument? h...hHH...HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

>>59559163
>decide to mail a stock certificate through the postal service to someone
>accidentally write the wrong address on the envelope
>"I LOST IT AND IT'S THE STOCK MARKETS FAULT"
this is what you sound like

>>59559176
1 google search:

"If you lose your stock certificate, you can still own your shares and rights, and you can request a replacement certificate from the company's transfer agent:
1. Report the loss
Contact the company's directors or company secretary to report the loss and request a replacement.
2. Complete required documents
You may need to complete an affidavit of loss, purchase an indemnity bond, or complete a Letter of Indemnity form.
3. Pay any fees
There may be an administration fee or other charges to replace the certificate.
4. Receive the replacement
Once the company has the required documents and fees, they will reissue a new certificate.
The company will also put a "stop transfer" on the original certificate to prevent it from being used fraudulently.
If you can't remember if you have any lost shares, you can use an asset recovery service to help search for them. "

Meanwhile:

If you lost your blockchain stock... welcome to the...

F U T U R E O F F I N A N C E

thanks for playing :')

>>59559192
and you're telling me that you're so stupid and low-iq that you can't even fathom the idea of banks, once they adopt this technology, implementing their own technology that lies on top of the blockchain in order to provide safety measures like this?

>>59559163
>Now explain why there are many nodes already on the nano network. Literal 14 year olds have set them up
lmao your replied yourself. literal 14 yo have set them up, and the nano foundation has paid/is running many. Doesn't cost anything to pump that number, the operational costs are currently close to 0 since there is not even 1 TPS on the network. It's literal a program that does a keep alive every few minutes lmao. Dead proof of concept, I tell ya

>>59559202
>loses argument on the fundamental level
>well uhh.. you see tha banks theyre gunna... if they just put up this 2nd meagical layer of ... w-well if its all automated the AI can.. IT JUST FUCKING WILL OK?!?!??

>>59559206
So why did you buy 100 then lol?

>>59559218
>BANKS AND COMPANIES ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT OFFER SAFETY GUARANTEES FOR STOCKS
>BUT UHHH WHEN BANKS AND COMPANIES START USING CRYPTO THEY WONT OFFER SAFETY GUARANTEES FOR THOSE EITHER BECUASE UHHHH- ACK!!!!!!!

>>59559235
How can you have a safety guarantee on an immutable blockchain? The whole point of the blockchain is the quick time to finality and its resistance to censorship

>>59559254
>delay the transaction for 24-72hr like normal banks do anyway so that you can call and say an accident occurred

>>59559267
so le blockchain was...

completely pointless

GG!

You just walked back all ground and conceded the debate

It was easy demolishing you in the intellectual marketplace

>>59559276
holy retard cope

>>59559228
I didn't, are you dumb and retarded?

>>59559288
t. believes he can call up the blockchain to correct an error

>>59559305
>>59549664
another example of the AI malfunctioning man this is wild

>>59559306
t. believes that banks arent going to delay and batch groups of transactions if theres any chance that they might need to be manually double-checked for correctness
t. believes that companies aren't using automated systems to trade crypto and thus believes that human errors like typing in the wrong address is even possible