/biz/ - Business & Finance

Remember to filter every single fud post id and do not reply to them as thats what they want.

Happy new year /pmg/! May the cheapies be plentiful, and your stacks safe. I hope 2025 brings you growth and happiness.

No stack photo
No opinion

Simple as

In your experience whats better to stack one type of coin like the kruger or the eagle or a variety of bars like from heraeus and vacambi?
I made the mistake when starting out that i bought whatever was the cheapest at the moment and now my stack even though pretty decent in size is really disorganised so this year i want to only buy one type of coin or bar to not get into any trouble later on
I cant afford a full ounce right now and bars have lower premium than fractionals on smaller amounts of gold so im thinking of picking up exclusively bars from now on

>>59528079
happy new year pmg

Iqdelet, a fool of the highest degree,
Gambled his money, couldn't break free.
On shitcoins he bet, with a mind full of grime,
Chasing those tokens, wasting his time.

He chanted his mantra, round and around,
Filling his brain with a repetitive sound.
"stacktards, premiums, Silver merchants," he'd endlessly say,
But the market would crash and take all away.

Daft and insufferable, none could endure,
His luck turned sour, the losses were sure.
As the end neared, on his deathbed's tight grasp,
His final words came—what a bitter gasp.

"The stacktards were right," he whispered in vain,
A lesson too late, after all the pain.
Iqdelet's tale is a warning so clear,
Gambling with shitcoins, it will cost you dear.

>>59528095
Are you talking gold or silver? The premiums on gold are generally much less than silver, so the cost benefit of stacking what's appropriate vs what's the cheapest varies between the two. I'd say target a theme and go for that. The cheapest and most liquid 1oz rounds and coins for silver, with the supplementary 10oz or 100oz bar for the core stack. For gold, I tend to stick to US denominated coinage, selling and trading in my cheapies for US backed bullion as needed.

Some silver facts for the new year:
- Silver is in extreme demand for medical, technological, and industrial use
- Silver's price is kept artificially low by certain interest groups messing with fake paper silver to ensure certain industries keep going with affordable silver.
- If every single millionaire on Earth right now bought silver, there wouldn't be enough for each of them to own 50 ounces
- Owning one (1) ounce of silver in hand gives you more than 98% of the people in your city, on average.

>>59528155
are you holo? where's the new coin

>>59528155
>Silver's price is kept artificially low by certain interest groups messing with fake paper silver to ensure certain industries keep going with affordable silver.

I just heard the other day that the Chinese are going direct to the mines in South America and are buying up all the Doré which means it isn't going through the purifying process and therefore isn't going through the markets meaning it doesn't have any effect on the spot price.

The chinks are playing their part in price suppression just so they can secretly buy it all up literally on the cheap.

It's funny to remember that the only person in this thread making a profit on silver is mintanon, who charges stacktard losers a 286%premium on a commodity

>>59528180
That's genius, why is no one else doing this? Are we just retarded?

I have a used condom for you to clean up. Couldn't raw dawg your mom. Add it to your beach collection.

>>59528036
>Gold and Silver Edition
Happy New Year!

>>59528217
The U.S had it's opportunity to buy as much oil as it wanted at -$30 a barrell but the kikes in Congress blocked it. Couple years later Biden released our entire strategic oil reserve to drop gas prices down $0.10 a gallon for a couple days across America. Complete Buffoonery.

>>59528155
>Implying there are about 588,852,000 millionaires in the world (7.2% of the global population).
[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_millionaires

>>59528155
> mfw have enough silver to deny access for 84 crypto nerd "millionaires"

>>59528217
Yes, stacktards are retarded. Poor retards who think paying $140 for $25 of silver will make them rich because a coin merchant said so

>>59528108
>Are you talking gold or silver
gold mostly
For Silver bars doesnt make sense wher i live bercause there not vat free
Old junk silver is still vat free though so thats what i mostly stack in terms of silver

>>59528362
Lmao

>>59528393
For my part, I prefer coins. Yes the premiums are often a bit higher, but they also are valued higher when selling. Strstrike LMUs are usually the form of gold priced closest to spot, but will never carry additional numismatic value.

>>59528404
>Strstrike
*Restrike

>>59528217
The west is controlled by demented unhinged cultists who are still going along with their suicide pact, They dont want Gold coming near their soon to be dead ponzi system.

>>59528155
WAGMI. You can't build a drone swarm with paper silver Mr. MIC!

>>59528420
Buying silver leads to misery, regret, and failure 100% of the time....lmao just look at the stacktards in pmg 100% are bitter hateful brokies

Silver is a ponZi scheme that's why dummies who fall for the silver scam spend 100s of hours trying to find new victims to offload their bags

>>59528416
But wouldn't it be smart to also buy up unrefined gold in the same way and biuld up a secret reserve, if they knew the system is going to collapse son

>>59528441

>>59528404
>the premiums are often a bit higher, but they also are valued higher when selling
so it looks like those two cance each outher out then
You pay more and get less metals but you can sell your metals for a higher price where as with bars you only get the metal price but also get more metals
if done some basic calculation and im planning to spend around 7000 euros this year for Gold so if im going with a 1/4 every month i will spend around 850 on premiums where as with bars i spend around 350 so i save around 500 euros which i can spend on more silver or another 5g gold bar
This really makes me want to lock in on the bars for now
The only reason im questioning myself is whats more liquit to sell of in an emergency if i need money quick
A bunch of coisn or a bunch of bars?

>>59528095
Good day fellow bullionaire. For gold, I don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things. Gold will retain it's value in weight. Obviously, don't go for stupid shit like Goldbacks or Disney themed rounds. Depends on where you live, BUT what's most sought after are: AGEs/Buffalos, Kruggerands, Sovereigns, and Maples (9999). Personally, I have both a Pamp bar 1 troz and an AGE in my possession but the AGE just seems sexier desu and easier to trade in, if it comes to that (which it shouldn't, always have diamond hands on your gold stack).

>>59528450
My understanding is (((they're))) not afraid of gold because of the marketcap. They are able to keep gold prices suppressed through the much smaller and more easily manipulated silver market. This is why the silver squeeze was such an appealing prospect. It's much easier to corner the silver market ala 1980s style Hunt Brothers, only as a group, instead of a single entity. It was easy for the (((regulators))) to force only the Hunts to sell by restricting their ability to buy in the 1980s. It would be nearly impossible to restrict the entire population's ability to buy while still keeping costs low for industrial needs. Thus we see them stuck in the gambit of needing to convince the general population that fiat is doing fine, while also restricting national silver outflows to competition(good luck taking delivery on a Comex bar). That's where BTC and crypto came into play. A massive blackhole of liquidity soaking up demand for a fiat alternative during a time of hyperinflation. Had a fraction of that demand gone to silver instead, we would already be knee deep in a dead USD.

>>59528472
>You pay more and get less metals
To be pedantic, you pay more for the same amount of metal.
Bars will always be bars.
Coins - especially those with limited designs - can gain much greater value due to numismatic or aesthetic demand. Protip: look for first issues of upcoming series. These are often missed by collectors and are hardest to find, hence gain value the most rapidly particularly when their mint run ends and the dealers run out of them.
Dunno for liquidity. I've never sold.

>>59528462
soak him down

>>59528474
>but the AGE just seems sexier desu and easier to trade in

I dont like the AGE but in reality its probably the most valuable of the Gold Coins seeing as its a mix of Gold, Silver and Copper where the rest of them are either Gold/Copper or just Gold.

Name a rich or successful person who buys silver...

Lmao you can't, only broke losers buy silver....

Lesson in that but not for stacktards they are all in

>>59528095
For gold, do what you like really. I would recommend coins but if you like happen to like bars, or even ingots or even grain/shot/dust. Its all gravy really.
Silvers a little different and theres more pitfalls you want to avoid like collectables

S tier: generic rounds and nominated silver coins, krugerrands, philharmoniks, kangaroos, buffalos, best for cost averaging
A tier: "junk" silver you find deals on. such as mercury dimes, swiss francs, other old currency like that. Also great for cost averaging.
B tier: silver bars, these are only good if you can get them under or atleast near spot but otherwise i would steer clear from silver bars
F tier: series, painted/gilded stuff and other nice looking junk like that.

>Name a rich or successful person who buys silver
Elon Musk.

>>59528618
S tier are antique cheapies worth 2-50x their melt value bought for 5-50% of melt.

>>59528628
Ain't that the truth, how many ounces of silver are consumed per EV again?

>>59528693
This new battery samsung came up with out of "nowhere" is meant to use up 1kg of Silber.

>>59528180
And their above-board purchases of refined gold through the Shanghai exchange are back in full-force. Maybe it is just a blind attempt to acquire any resources they can get on the cheap. But I think the next world war will be fought with economics. It is already in play with trade restrictions. But currency devaluation is the A-bomb of economic warfare and that has not been deployed yet. How do you prepare for a coming currency war? I would stockpile as much gold as I could get my hands on. At the very least that gives me a fall back if my fiat currency gets hammered. But it might give me a platform to launch the new world reserve and trade currency. And that is the brass (gold) ring. Keep stacking.

>>59528717
Hm.

Warren buffet bought a huge amount of silver in the 90s and hasn't sold it

George Soros has been known to hold silver as part of his precious metals portfolio. He has previously invested in gold and other commodities, including silver, as part of hedging against inflation and currency fluctuations.

Ray Dalio you know the guy on Forbes richest list who founded one of the largest hedge funds in the world, has publicly spoken about investing in precious metals, including silver, as a hedge against economic uncertainty and currency devaluation.

Bill Gates while not an outspoken buyer of silver specifically has invested in companies that deal with silver, such as those involved in technology and energy, where silver is a key component in products like solar panels.

The hardest thing you can hit people with is the truth.

>>59528794
>annual silver demand for EV batteries could reach 16,000 metric tons
>16,000 metric tons converted to ounces
>512 million ounces
>checks chart
>>59528420
Oh shit.

>>59528545
Stick to your script. Your boss won't like it when you improvise. The only thing you prove us wrong on is when we think you can't get any dumber and then you make a comment like the one you just did. Kektop

>>59528794
>>59528849
We'll get rugpulled on vehicle ownership.
>EVs keep being mandated by cuck states
>self driving taxis everywhere in a few years
>gas is (((too expensive))) deliberately
>silver price moons, pricing everyone out of buying an EV
>vehicle ownership plummets
>have to rent a söy taxi to go anywhere
>you will own nothing and be happy

Upon realizing this, I hope Elon Musk strokes out and dies and soon after, Tesla dies too.

>>59528903
I'm just not going to buy an EV. UGH! I know... I know! I'm just not going to buy an EV is all. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>59528903
None of this shit is going to play out, The collapse of their currency/banking system will wipe out their grand plans, its why they were forced into coming out with this samsung battery shit which is just another con job, because ev sales are collapsing because the npc's can now see the scam too.

This breakdown will become more obvious and faster this year with the nail in the coffin happening in 2026 (according to Martin Armstrong and Jim Rickards) with the forced reset back to Gold.

>>59528859
Name a rich or successful person who owns silver. Lmao there are none. Pmg is basically a club of broke incel losers who bought the equipment of a scratch off lottery ticket or a beanie baby now they lash out at successful investors because they are angry

>>59529074
>Name a rich or successful person who owns silver.
name one who doesn't

The losers of pmg have to fantasize they figured out something that real investors missed..


Lmao real investors know peter Schiff is wrong about everything except milking retards like pmg

>>59528903
Imagine needing a car lmao

>>59529122
Imagine buying silver and then having to pray for the end of the world for 50 years so you can get a gf, then you die and some drunk sells your collection for $10 so he can buy some vodka....lmao that's pmg

The only other successful investor besides me is Bob and he thinks stacktards are morons. Oh plus mintanon who milks these fools for 386% premiums and then buys Bitcoin with the proceeds.

Bbbbbut my chart says in 2 weeks...lmao ok

>>59529142
Imagine being so poor you don't have money to invest in a broad range of assets and then come on 4chan to bitch about people that do.

This guy is here all day, everyday just trolling
LOL this is great
Imagine his life

>>59529074
>incel
Not only are you brown but using incel as an insult makes you a faggot.

>Gold vs Silver
What's the white man choice?

>>59529587
>white man choice?
Trick question, lead. Lol jk silver of course. Better for daily transactions.

Anyone get any Swiss junk lately?

>>59529587
Bitcoin

>>59529241
Lmao you incel losers are always crying you can't afford silver when the price is $25 then you brag you pay $130 for a frog round. Minty uses your cash to buy Bitcoin which you can't afford. Sad

were your feelings hurt in that other thread?

>>59529688
Maybe you should focus on making your life better and not worrying about others. It's sad that you must try and belittle anons on an anime forum because they happen to like a certain asset. I get it though, the anger and rage, I've been there. The best thing for you to do is let go if it. Hope you find peace. Have a good day.

>>59529868
Maybe you should focus on making your life better and not worrying about others. It's sad that you must try and belittle anons on an investment forum because they happen to like saving their people from an obvious scam. I get it though, the anger and rage, I've been there. The best thing for you to do is let go. Hope you find a good investment and stop hating your savior

>>59529614
I love 50% pre war British junk, can't stop slurping up old half crowns and shillings for spot or even less. It's an addiction

>>59529963
>Maybe you should focus on making your portfolio better and not worrying about others. It's sad that you must try and belittle anons in a precious metals thread because they happen to like saving their people from a not so obvious fiat debt enslavement cabal. I get it though, the anger and rage, I've been there. The best thing for you to do is let go. Hope you find God's money and stop hating yourself.

>>59530022
Great. No one else likes it. Even 80% is considered shit, 90% isn't good enough for some. Good luck selling it you will get hosed unless you find a newb like yourself

>>59530022
Hell yeah fren!

>>59530022
Found this in my grandpa's change. Cleaned it up as it was 100% black when I found it in a jar.

>>59530155
Uhh based department?

I rarely do this, but i gambled on a chink coin because it is too good to pass if real. Was marked as unidentified. It's a fat 50 Cash - Xianfeng Zhongbao; Boo-yuwan 1853.

>>59530183
60gr - 55mm diam.
Weight and dimensions are matching, lets hope it's the real deal..

>>59530022
>Gets mogged by 75% Irish Junk

It's dinner time!

>>59530210
kale?

>>59530022
>I love 50% pre war British junk
I fucking hate it desu. But it was minted to oblivion so it's super common to find some in most lots of old silver junk. Never intentionally purchased any post-1920, but still ended with over a kilo of the shit...
For me, it's pre-1920 only.

>>59530213
Greens(mixed)
You have to eat black eyed peas and greens on new years day

>>59530210

>>59530193
Ooh very nice fren, didn't even know it existed

>>59530210
>>59530221
>You have to eat black eyed peas and greens on new years day
Looks tasty, but why that specifically?

>>59530235
Peas are for good luck every day, greens are for money

>>59530210
i'm sneeding at your pic because soon i'll have to force myself into greenz. Just came back from the Doc who analyzed my quarterly blood tests and my bad cholesterol levels were through the roof. He asked me what i was eating and i made the mistake to tell him the truth : 60% cheese & 40% pork (in all it's forms, but i've a soft spot for dry sausage, smoked ham and rillettes).
He REEE'd at me for the rest of the consultation. :(

>>59530240
I mean I made some good beef and black bean hard shell tacos earlier. No pics lol but I've been busy, had to eat quickly.

>>59530233
They only lasted from 1928-43 before they stripped the silver out of them.

>>59530259
I'll let you know a little secret: you eat cornbread for gold on new years day. Mine is still in the oven

You poor slobs will have no monies, no good luck, and more importantly, no golds.

>>59530233
They weren't minted in large quantities, most people don't know about those. They are quite sought after by the collectors so most sell at a fairly high premium, especially in XF+ condition. Those are truly rares because those coins weren't struck very deep/have a rather flat design, so the details wears out very easily.

>>59528472
Gold is easy to sell, even jewelry (but the premiums suck there, unless you're buying second hand stuff). The advantage of bars is like you said, you can buy more gold today for the same price vs. a coin of the same weight. But they also have disadvantages. For one thing, those essay cards take up extra space, especially if you're buying lots of small ones. The other thing is bars are a little more trouble to verify than coins which have standardized dimensions, physical features, and that you can do a quick ping test on.

>>59529614
No good deals on that, but I might slurp some italian or french .835 cheapies this month.

>>59530210
Food-anon please stop doing this to your silver rounds, that is fucking disgusting! Keep your silver rounds in the plastic capsules, you filthy animal. Good God, you don't deserve to handle those pepe-coins, you nigger, unhand them at once! I will fucking kill you and steal your pepe-coins. Hard-working men treat their silver better than this, I will destroy you, you nigger. Enjoy your last meal, because here's dessert, your death.

>>59530490

>>59530490
>Keep your silver rounds in the plastic capsules
can you not see they are clearly still in the capsules?

>>59530490
>Enjoy your last meal, because here's dessert, your death.

>>59528102
happy new year, bob-tier poster

I haven't been around to troll /pmg/ much lately. It seems IQ has it more than covered.

>>59529096
No matter how quickly or efficiently you pick up the pieces and checkmate the pidgeon again it will simply just knock them down again soon as possible and keep continuing its victorious posturing.

10.5oz Au
1050oz Ag
2oz Pt

>>59531868
>10.5oz Au
>1050oz Ag
You're at my ideal goal.

>>59531881
He Could have had $1,000,000 or a house if you invested in Bitcoin or stocks but now he has $40,000 of rocks because he fell for the obvious silver scam. And this broke moron wants to be just like him...lmao

Gold bros im noticing something. Next leg up soon?

>>59532113
Meaningless....y'all are too poor for a 10 or 20% gain per year to make a difference...get a job or start a business instead of wasting 1000 hours per year here reading broke incel retardation and praying for the end of the world. But you won't....mental laziness

>Gold rocketing in process
C'mon man, don't let this be the new average.

Paper to physical changed...
What's up w/ this?

>wasting 1000 hours per year here
Wow iqdelete spends more time hear than I do actual work annually.

>>59532265
>hear
Here.

fml, i thought i was the only one who nooticed this auction, but at the last minute another chud showed up and made me into a paypiggu. Thought i'd have it for 5 bux, ended up raking 63€ for it.

Lmao stacktards seething because they lost 80% on the obvious silver scam while Bitcoin was once again the best performing asset in the universe at over 100%

And another lmao because they are mad at the guy who told them this exact thing would happen 1 year ago.

Remember folx if they convinced you to hold a shiny rock in your hand you are an idiot

I wish I got more than one Queen's Beasts completer now. I knew is was going to be desirable, but I didn't expect it to be desirable this early.

Just found out that the word bought flags the spam system.

>>59530116
Why do you have 100 posts in metals threads if you dont care about it?

>>59532441
Because he's retarded.

>>59532415
Revision.

>>59532441
Lmao, stacktard can't count and is furious that someone would point out that silver is a scam that only enriches coin merchants and suggests brokies get a job or start a business to get rich.

Lmao why would anyone get angry when you prevent people for falling for a scam?

>>59532463
Lmao

Jannie get to work

>>59530403
So it looks like the best thing do is buy both then
Have the core part of your stack be in bars and one or two ounces in coins
The premium on full ounces of coins is even lower than on bars but i cant afford a whole ounce every month and i dont want to save up for several months to buy one i want to buy something every month to DCA it in which cases bars make more sense for the lower premiums
But at the same time i really like coins
i like the touching them and putting them behind an essay card where they can never be felt is kinda bumming me out a bit
Also the take up a bit to much space compared to the size of the bar so for now i stick with coins then
Im buyign a 1/4 Brittania now and sticking witht the Brittania until the end of the year

>>59531868
congrats fren
If everything goes well i will also have my first 10oz this year
For how long have you been stacking?

>>59532665
Congrats on your losses. Why did you give up on life instead of starting a business and being rich?

>>59531868
20.5 au
450 ag

>>59531868
>2oz plat
>0oz pall
>0oz rhod
>0oz tell
i am disgust

>>59532516
I think xrp buyers are idiots and wasting their money but i dont waste my time in their threads

>>59532776
You just waste your time in pmg threads reading comments from broke retards and getting dumber and crying about truthtellers who expose your ponzi scheme

>>59532516
Excuse me sweety but 95% of my networth is in crypto

>>59532882
He is here precisely because the cracks in the system are becoming more and more obvious. The way to sidestep the train barrelling towards us is to exit the leveraged-ponzi scheme which can be accomplished by buying valuable physical assets that you can hold in your own possession.
Depressions are caused by severe distress caused by the banking system where they pull back their lending efforts and suddenly the economy shrivels up when asset prices decline and new money is not being spent. Banks repair their balance sheets by revaluing gold so it minimizes the debts. Being prepared for the revaluation will be an incredible boon at a time when everyone else is getting crushed.

>Noooo don't look behind the curtain! We have plenty of metals in reserve!

Never forget what happened when the mask slipped. This is why they cannot have the masses buying silver. It's the lynchpin of their entire fiat debt enslavement system. As soon as the facade falls and the metal manipulation ends our worldview will change overnight.

>>59532957
>Banks repair their balance sheets by revaluing gold so it minimizes the debts
It's why the establishment want everyone to put their savings into crypto because they don't want debt slaves reaping the revaluation trick.

>>59532957
Blah blah blah word salad FUD.

How to you square that with the strength of the $, going up for the last 15 years the same time frame you claim the $ is crashing

>>59532975
>establishment want everyone to put their savings into crypto bec

The same establishment trying to ban crypto, y'all are dumber than the rocks you hoard

>>59532986
>The same establishment trying to ban crypto
Its not banning anything is it.

God when will this crypto bubble finally burst?
Im so sick of this fucking Mexican cryptotard spamming this thread with his ponzi scheme

>>59532994
It's extremely telling that the only thing the government is going after is XMR, which shares a lot of qualities with PMs (hidden ownership, anonymous and private transactions, unspecific supply).

Just received my first ever gold from my in-laws. It's good to marry into an Asian family!

>>59533010
Also a gold ring with a jade stone. Both are 9999.
Is jade worth anything?

it shipped
the order

>>59533014

>>59533014
>Both are 9999.

Lmao

>>59533019
Nice beanie babies premium boy

>>59532982
Foreign banks are worse off that American banks because they can't print dollars to keep the Eurodollar system going.
That doesn't mean the American banking system is solvent.
Your turn, why don't you help me understand how a $22TN GDP is going to pay back a $46TN bond market without an implosion?

>>59533054
hey, i have you blocked, but why not. i figured i could probably eat the $8 in premiums. what did you get this week so far?

Florida man here, to anyone with experience, is going to an LCS worth it? I've made a bulk of my purchases online and despite the premiums and waiting for mail, all of my metals do eventually arrive in a shiny beautiful state as advertised. I also appreciate not having to directly interact with some sassy, fat-fingered boomers. I'm not interested in selling or anything, just DCAing silver purchases and a troz gold purchase quarterly. There are a few coin shops near me but only two seem to get decent traffic.

https://www.silverbaycoins.com/
This one's the closest to where I live.

https://vermillion-enterprises.com/
These guys have a JewTube channel, which I appreciate. Since they give an actual visual of their stock and prices. However their deals aren't THAT much better compared to some online dealers and as for the drive, they're almost a fuckin' three hour drive in this Hellhole state.

Recent video of theirs: https://youtu.be/PlWIg6NoXk4?si=TQGFc3qy779rfaDV


>>59532998
Be careful with what you wish for, without crypto, the Mexcriment will have no choice but to be a public toilet to make ends meet. Then it'd be thirty fuckin' posts of him bragging:

>"Lmao, stacktards aren't making 140,000% gains at the 7/11 restroom gloryhole. Failed investors"

>>59533054
Please explain why the lmao?

The banks are about to implode! Avoid the revaluation of the dollar by stacking plenty of precious metals! History proven and silver is comically cheap relative to gold.
>Lots of sliding going on today

>Gold Spot up €30 in 30 mins

>>59533091
Now that's a stack.

>>59533111
Literally nothing...lmao in the time you wasted reading the dumb comments you could have made $300

>>59533091
Yep lots of tards pretending we are going back in time 100 years to the gold standard. Lmao that and the zombie apocalypse is their thesis. SAD!

IQDELET Survey.

Is he:

1. A condom collecting Pajeet who is paid less than wumaos to demoralize stackers for the banking clans.

2. An agent from one of the bullion dealers who is doing the reverse psychology trick to reinforce us to buy more metals faster.

STOP
MOONING
YA
BASTARDS
I
NEED
MORE
TIME
TO
STACK

When are they gonna make that damn crypto board so this place can be about actual business and finance?

>>59533200
The dollar system is failing and no one trusts it to be a unit of account any longer. American can't pay its debts but the rest of the world expects to take Treasuries every year for payment for our $700BN trade deficit every year?
Why would they bother doing that? They can easily barter a better deal now that America is teetering on collapse. And that very renegotiation will mean we are IMPOVERISHED relative to the rest of the world. We lose purchasing power if that happens. This is why I sell my dollars for silver.

>>59533267
/biz/ is the crypto board, it was made when cryptoshit was flooding /g/ catalog (so I've heard).

>>59533237
gonna have to go with 1 chief

>>59533267
None of you talk about finance because you know nothing this is the extent of your comments racism >>59533237 low IQ omg we are up 1% but I'm too poor to buy>>59533249 and low IQ comments like "the $ is falling" when it's at a 15 year high. Every comment you read here except mine make you dumber
>>59533276

Guys, it appears IQDELET The Pajeet is triggered.

>>59533397
Yeah he's so dumb.
>the $ is falling
Yes moron. Yes it is. Zoom out...

>>59533382
This is the epitome of "durrr Im a retard/Im just pretending" meme.

>>59533382
>"the $ is falling" when it's at a 15 year high.

2670 usd dollars for an ounce of gold says otherwise. Nobody cares what the other sinking ships are doing.

>>59533460
That chart uses the official rate of inflation too.

>>59533544
weird how almost every inflation metric agrees with each other EXCEPT the cpi

>>59533553
Boskin Commission strikes again.

Substitution
Weighting
Hedonics

and for GDP:

Imputation

The four horseshits of the apocalypse.

>>59533636
>The four horseshits of the apocalypse.

Oh my God someone just look at this shit almost 20% inflation.

>>59533237
He keeps the threads bumped so my vote is 2 with the caveat that he's a narcissistic Mexican.

>>59533636
Why not buy Bitcoin and get rich instead of crying about inflation which doesn't affect you?

Why didn't you borrow at 2% for 30 years if you are so smart?

>>59533701
Bitcoin is just an extension of the dollar bubble. All that money being printed since 2001 has to go somewhere. And asking someone who is worried about the liquidity of the US dollar to invest in something that is basically just hot air is a laugh.

>>59533692
he probably doesn't eve have any nice gen 3 libertads

With the advent of the Bush Tax cuts along with deficit spending, our country has turned into a short-sighted cash grab. The country has no forward direction and shows ZERO compunction of benefiting the people who live here. Our infrastructure is old and crumbling and there really isnt a lot of money for an overhaul because the citizenry are broke. And the rich sure as hell don't want to pay. So what we all need to contend with is that the short-sighted nature of the country GUARANTEES it will have a reckoning either with a massive tax bill or bridges literally just falling into the rivers and power stations not being able to keep up. Given this reality, I see no reason to expect that financial markets will end happily. I fully expect a major financial hit to blind-side the public at large and it can only be a broad-stroke loss that hit the masses at large. I think this will come from the dollar or to equities as our pensions and 401ks will need to be robbed out of pure necessity.
This is another reason to sidestep the financial system and own gold and silver because the rich can't tax the masses. They have to STEAL FROM THEM.

>>59533701
>why didnt you do [thing you literally did]
???

Don't care

Silver is going to make me rich off this collapse

>>59532982
It's measured against a basket of monies
It's Jewish tricks
Value should be measured against purchasing power or inflation. Better yet, gold.

>>59533713
Lmao, why didn't it go into silver? Lmao that's what you poors bought for $45 to $138 an ounce. Hyuge losses. Price you pay for listening to coin merchants.

Feels good to get 100%plus gains when information is 5% millions of easy profit

I would like to remind everyone that if you understate inflation, you automatically overstate GDP growth, since the GDP deflator is artificially low as well. Which is how we end up at a 27 trillion GDP number for the usa when that number was 11 trillion in 2003. The united states did not get almost 3 times richer, if anything it's poorer now than it was.

>>59533826
I bought gold for like 600 bucks an ounce ages ago, leave me alone.

>>59533082
there is just zero chance a piece of jewelry would be 9999 fine gold, it would be so soft that it would break and get lost within minutes. Its just not done, ever...

>>59533076
If I had a Vermillion type dealer close, I would rather buy from them. Fuck a 3 hour drive tho.
>>59533121
That's my fucking stack and that faggot can't even post an updated pic

>>59533841
people are WAY poorer than they were in 2003. i don't think most people realize it though.

>>59533691
Some sectors are much much higher, along the lines of 100-300%

>>59533846
The chinks do that tho. Maybe the poos too, I think for tax reasons.

>>59533237
He is cancer. But he keeps it interesting around here when he doesn't follow his script. I joined this site after he made his debut, whenever that was, and while I didn't understand some of the jokes, I fully understand them now and they make me lose control of my bladder. I have unironically bought more silver because of the shilling because if they weren't so afraid they wouldn't need to pay a shitskin fractions of pennies to spam the same shit hour after hour for years. So it's probably both. Either way he is cancer.

>>59533846
Youre an idiot, gold is almost as hard as iron. When people call gold a 'soft metal', thats extremely relative.
Schiff has an entire business selling 24k gold jewelry

>>59533934
>gold is almost as hard as iron.
go be retarded somewhere else

>>59533930
>An ammo can (almost) full of junk
Mmm, that must feel nice.

>>59533930
>and while I didn't understand some of the jokes, I fully understand them now and they make me lose control of my bladder.
Good to hear. Now it's your duty to contribute to his lore like the rest of us.

>>59533966
thats a completely subjective scale and theres more than 1 way to test hardness.

But youre correct in that 'hard' was the wrong word to use, strength is more important for jewelry and gold is almost as strong as iron

>>59533852
Stonks line go up, everything gucci, amirite? xD

>>59534006
>Woman understands the value of real money
I will make that woman my wife

>>59534003
>thats a completely subjective scale
lol, as long as it is applied equally to everything on it, it is a completely accurate scale.
>gold is almost as strong as iron
you can dent 9999 gold with a fingernail. I could break a gold chain with my bare hands. Could you do either with an iron chain? fuck no you couldn't. This is a bizarre flex you are trying to pull here

Lmao, no wonder you brokie losers hate Mexicans we can buy a 5 ounce silver libertard for $77 usd

Y'all jelly

>>59534035
you can absolutely break an iron chain of the tiny size a gold chain would be made to with your bare hands assuming you arent a small child, woman, or indian

>>59534045
>if it was tiny you could!
lol, you couldn't break a single strand of a copper wire with your bare hands. Let alone iron. Anymore cope you got for me?

KYC crypto services are so fucking TERRIBLE. Trying to sell XRP nad BTC through MoonPay and it's like INSUFFICIENT BALANCE. They want photo ID, social security number, bank account details and even after all that I can't sell my crypto because the service is having problems. I have thousands locked in this bullshit and it's pretty much lost. Do NOT get involved with this bullshit, I can't get my money out. Stick to traditional assets. This crypto shit is beyond scammy.

>>59534038
Ok so buy some and post fresh pics on a regular basis. If you did that, I'd actually dislike you less.

If I try to sell my crypto and cash out in PayPal even after entering my credentials, I get an error saying "We're having trouble making sure it's you." Wallets will not let you cash you out. This is a scam scam scam. Stick to gold and silver.

>>59533966
>silver
>aluminum
>steel
Yes.

>>59533111
>>59533249
>tfw i made my purchase right before the spike today
Fortuna really loves me it seems

>>59534112
nice progress fren

>>59534080
Posting pics of commodities is low IQ, lmAo you don't know what silver looks like?

>>59534110
Yes all dummies should stick to what you understand, rocks, lmao do you hear yourself? I told you tards exactly how to get rich a year ago and it was literally 2 steps. Open brokerage buy Bitcoin etf lmao it's that shrimple

>>59534237
I tried. Vanguard does not allow allocation to BTC ETFs, they denied this several times already.

>>59534110
kek paypal has been doing this for years. Worst case (for them) they get a 6 month interest-free loan while you spend 1000 hours getting "your" money back

>>59534223
Thanks!

>buy Bitcoin etf
You don't even have self custody then...
IQDELETE is really living up to his name.

This in today...

Lmao, this is really unexpected but Bitcoin and eth are supermooning today, rock hoarders are already falling behind

>>59534490
I CAN'T GET MY MONEY OUT THE EXCHANGE FUCK YOU

>>59534490
I like how the internet hive-mind has decided the best things to invest in are all votes of no-confidence in the system.
>Gamestop
>Bitcoin
>Precious Metals.
I'll be sure to buy some BTC when it hits $10,000 again. In the mean time I'm just gonna sit on the sidelines.

>>59534067
>>59534110
>>59534273
>>59534520
The crypto bros are all happy until they too want to cash out.

>>59528155
I want that Holo coin

>>59534534
He clearly learned his lesson, we don't have to mock him ITT.

>>59534548
Not trying to mock him, but that other asshole who is on his case. I'm sure he has a few surprises waiting for him eventually as well.

>>59534529
Lmao no, it's broke retards buying gme and precious metals. Small potatoes compared to the billions going into Bitcoin and eth etfs

>>59534534
Only a stacktard (who lost 80% on an obvious silver scam) would believe another stacktard lying about crypto but sure yuck it up to salve your wounds

>>59534548
Billy Mays was a national treasure and we haven't entirely recovered as a culture ever since his death.

>>59533057
And that GDP number includes a significant amount of debt-supported product that will vanish with the debt bubble.

Remember in the play and movie Peter Pan when Tinker Bell, the tiny fairy, drinks poison and is dying. The only way to save her is if the audience truly believes in fairies and claps their hands to prove it.

What we have is a Tinker Bell economy, poisoned with debt, fiat, and MMT. The only way to keep it from collapsing is by convincing everyone that it is real. Hence the massive effort by the government and complicit media to try and convince the public to believe in it.

But this isn't Never Land. While there eventually will be a happy ending, it will be preceded by a really dreadful downfall.

>>59534628
What I like most about GME & Silver is they are heavily shorted which makes them capital investments in a time when other investments are dangerously leveraged and prone to a selloff.
I must be a genious to find bull moves in these bear markets.

>>59533846
It’s legitimately 9999 gold. It’s rope for strength and there is a hook instead of a clasp. It’s quite common in Hong Kong.
It is very bendy and scratched. It’s treated like a dowry so seldomly worn.

>>59534773
Word salad

>>59534038
Imagine not buying 5 oz for 77usd and selling it to boomers who like rocks and broke loser racist low iq stacktards. Imagine you making yuge profits because premiums would be so high because they would pay 380% while also losing 80%.its like an infinite free money glitch for you. Except you're to stupid and poor to do that.

>>59534848
No response?

>>59534038
The local employees down in Guadalajara tell me this is a very untrustworthy bank and never to use them

They recommend foreign banks above local like HSBC lmao

Iq, you posted your wallet when anons asked how rich you were >>21811578


I didn't know you were filling it with silver! You sneaky weasel. Tell everyone you're into bitcoin all while stacking silver behind the scenes.

>>59535070
kek

>>59535070
final form bob, is there a way to do an ai video with bus snake iq?

>>59534038
>5 ounce silver libertard for $77 usd
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE lol, very believable numbers munchacho.
i have beach condoms for 1 peso too if you want to, IQ.

>>59535070
Hahahahahahaaaaaa! Great

>>59534067
Can't you just buy a bunch of gold and silver with your bitcoin? Why go through nigger dollars?

>>59528036
Anyone else noticing PMs are on a run but so is the DXY?

Today I finally dove into the 4 kg pile of world coins ive happen to got. Took me all day to shift through them and found alot more silver than I expected, especially the swedish coins didnt know swedes minted so much billon coins. And ofc that MONKER of a netherlands gulden!
In the end that was Almost 2 oz of silver that was hiding in that mountain of coins, and couple 10-20 euro worthy numismatics pieces.

>>59535365
Ofc it couldnt be a deep hair lines, but oh well Ill take it and give it even its own capsule. Rest of em go to baggies.

You know whats even better than cheapies? FREEBIES.

>>59535389
>>59535365
nice, that 2 1/2 gulden is one of the more rare years too

>>59535365
>All day
>Net $40

I keep telling you tards to get a job

IQ liquidating his bitcoin position for silver and gold, excuse me, worthless rocks.

>>59535415
I made 140 euros today freebie silbers excluded. How about you, found any good used condoms today?

>>59535439
please tell me this is real

it would be way too fucking funny

>>59535492
>>>/bant/21835642

>>59535448
I made $350ish post tax at my wage job today

>>59535528
I hope you are starting a business (on company time).

>59535607
That's probably half or how much USD you make in a month. And only a fraction is from deliberately trolling here.

>>59535522
top kek

>>59533076
An LCS will always beat any online retailer, even if they offer so-called "free shipping." Nothing is free. I started stacking using SDBullion, which is a good site. But then I discovered my LCS and now pay an average of $20 less per gold coin purchase than online. LCS doesn't have to make up for shipping.
In your case, you have to factor in gas and compare to online prices. My LCS is a couple of blocks away, so that's not an issue for me.

>>59535784
You're blessed. Every lcs around me is I know what I have boomer tier ripoff premiums. Major metro area too.

>>59535887
Lmao, glad you are onboard when I started my crusade y'all claimed 20 to 59% premiums were ok and even a great deal

>>59535264
>paying a premium over cash
SAD

>>59535784
Glad for you, but you are the exception rather than the norm. Most of us have this kind >>59535887 of experiences with LCS. Personally i don't even bother trying to find a good LCS anymore, it's 100% online.

>LCS doesn't have to make up for shipping.
Believe me shipping is a nothingburger compared to all the functioning costs, taxes burden and risks coming with owning a physical store in 2001+24. Especially a gold store if you live in a melaninated enriched zone. Plus most online stores only offer shipping above a certain threshold, so it also incentive the customers to purchase more. And i wouldn't be surprised if big stores have reductions with postal services (who already are stupidly cheap in the US compared to most of the world). They wouldn't do it if they weren't winning in the process.

All i know is if i had the opportunity to open a PM store, i'd go 100% online. The fact i can run the operation all on myself, well protected from the comfyness of my home, with nobody knowing 'bout it, and that i do not have to hire anybody is enough to justify the decision imo.

fingers crossed that kraut-kun didn't mess up my address

>>59536107
what did you boughteded?

>>59536110
for the lulz

>>59536152
C'EST PAS DROLE DU TOUT
EFFACE CA TOUT DE SUITE

>>59528450
China (by law) doesn’t export any of the gold they mine. And they are the worlds largest gold producer.

When combined, mainland China and Hong Kong are the largest gold importers, at ≈31% of global imports.

So… yeah, seems like they could accumulate a lot off the books

>>59528036
ponyfags on /mlp/ have another coin up, the 2021 coin of theirs resold well. http://coins.lunar.horse

>>59536179
how would you even know about that?

>>59530022
The real move is to buy pre-46 Australian junk

It’s .925 up through 1945 and you can occasionally find deals on eBay. And the 50% stuff costs less, obviously

>>59536196
/mlpmg/ alert...

>>59536172

>>59536152
post some pictures when it comes

>>59536152
i'm a bit jealous too

>>59536291
was planning to do just that

>>59535522
Fucking iconic /pmg/ win, lmfao

Testing!
>>I was banned by the the disgusting jewish tranny jannie jeets for criticizing ELON.
>>Fuck you ELON MUSK!

I want to buy more silver this month but should I wait till before/after the Tangerine Terror is sworn in? Or wait till Jan 29th for the Fed decision? This volatility is an annoying daily thing and it's hard to track dips, I have Mexican hookers (iqdelet) to fuck.

>>59536631
Lol, first time?

>>59536804
2nd time now that I think of it. What the fuck is up with that?

>>59536804
>>If you're not buying up all the 5oz soap bars you're wasting time.

>>59536804
That dance reminds me of this.

I just bought the junk silver for 21x fv.

I want like $3k worth of junk silver now

>>59536825
>>Is Platinum and Palladium not sexy enough for you?

>>59536825
Android posting images rotated is so annoying

>>59536841
>>Does anyone collect bullion that have gems?
>>I've seen some frog rounds with rubie eyes.

>>59536838
Does nothing for me. I love that dollars were a unit of silver. Money for all of time was silver. You can tell by the size of a coin it's face value just because we standardized globally on ~0.7ozt being a dollar. Pretty cool.

Even paper money was just a gift certificate for some silver.

Obvious stuff but it recently resonated with me. As someone who likes money, this is money.

>>59536862

>>59536862
>>I like money too. I've had a lot of time to study it and understand why Silver and Gold are money.
>>I've come to terms with every physical ounce being rehypothicated many times over - over thousands of years.
>>"I knew I was broke. I didn't know I was starving."
>>I've decided to become a Litecoin Maxi considering the state of manufacturing, speed of information, and pace at which the fed prints money.
>>Metals don't keep up with a digital future.

>>59536889
For sure. Gold made sense when a countries wealth was tied to its land ownership. The gold was taken from the land so it matched proportionally.

Once we started having non-physical wealth i think it stopped making sense to measure in gold.

>>59536889
Why Litecoin

>>59533091
Nice stack. Whats that like $100k?

Also lmao the boomer round

>>59529157
>The only other successful investor besides me is Bob and he thinks stacktards are morons
I'm not an investor. I lucked out buying a house and a business 23 years ago when they were cheap.

I don't think stackers are morons. I stacked metals most of my adult life until I found out coins and collectibles go up in value a lot faster.

I don't think anyone's getting rich fast off metals, but then I don't think any investment is likely to make a person rich fast unless it's some absurdly risky gamble.

>>59530257
lmfao how long you been eating like that?

>>59536926
>>For some reason it seems like the logical choice from an opportunity cost.
>>Scarcity model is easier to understand.
>>Building a personal liquidity pool has never been this easy.

>>59532665
2 years

Got that >1oz gold. Back to stacking silver.

>>59537702
So funny the government convinced y'all to waste your lives and be poor for some shiny rocks and to think you are fighting the government...lmao

>>59536804
My advice, if you can find decent deals, just buy more. If the deals for you are bad right now then wait.
Truth is I wouldnt be surprised if this was the last day we would see sub 30 silver in our lifetime, shit is that crazy.

>>59528381
>mexican calling someone retarded

>>59537726
>Truth is I wouldnt be surprised if this was the last day we would see sub 30 silver in our lifetime, shit is that crazy.


Lmao , you remind me of the tard who bragged he paid $45 for ASEs back in 2020. 80% losses

>>59537910
when are you going to post your portfolio?

>>59537713
>So funny the government convinced y'all to waste your lives and be poor for some shiny rocks

lol when ?
They only talk about crypto, why are you lying?

>>59537933
I told you to buy Bitcoin a year ago, lmao you were too brainwashed by peter Schiff to listen

>>59536841
>Android posting images rotated
Solution: edit, pen (I use the pixel one), add a tiny dot, save. Works for me.

>>59537949
Good job at completely avoiding the question.

>>59537963
Thanks, these stacktards don't operate in good faith, most of them are coin merchants like mintanon just trying to milk naive idiots into paying huge premiums for a worthless commodity

>>59537962
Or just stop taking vertical pics

>>59533014
I think jade is cool. It just has alot of moving parts to its value like which region its from, color, translucency, texturing and grading.
I think jade is one of those sleepers and we might see jade making a surge as diamond industry is taking a beating.
Just beware since theres an ocean of fake jade, even tho they are mostly easily identifiable as fakes (not so with all diamonds)

>>59537981
>stop taking vertical pics
Sometimes even when oriented correctly, my pics would post rotated here. The add a random pixel and save eliminated that for me.

>Iqdelet eternally btfo and seething more than usual

Best thread of 2025

>>59536076
It's not that much of a premium and conversion to dollars also isn't free either. I'm not American so I'm not sure but if it's as easy as it looks it's great way to cash out into tangible wealth if you have crypto for some reason.

got a cool brooklyn bridge coin the other day

>>59538353
>great way to cash out into tangible wealth if you have crypto for some reason.
I get it back on my credit card as a reward. All I do is spend it on silver.
>>59538372
Nice. Found or bought? What's the silver content?

>>59537713
>>59537910
>>59537949
dude... you're mexican

>>59538392
925, stamped sterling on the side

>>59538396
Lol.

>>59537942

They're so shiny and the weight in your hands is sublime. Crypto nerds will never know.

>>59538782
>Hurr durr crypto bros will never hold huge losses in their hands like me

Ok lmao I beat you by 140% last year and I'm beating you again this year

>>59538855

Remember a few years ago when Schiff fanboys kept posting pictures of his gold lambo they bought him? Lmao pepperidge farms remembers

>>59538855
>>59538869
Great gains bro. Hope you get out in time before the credit crunch. Doesn't matter how much money you make when a 95% loss looms in your future.

Eth (digital silver) is up 4% today. Life is good, happy new year frens and future frens.

>>59538901
What credit crunch the one in your mind? Lmao when have your schizo fantasies ever manifested? I'm living large fren I've already bought 4 apartments in 4 countries with my crypto gains. I'm cash flow positive if stocks and crypto go to zero plus seven figures in Kang $

>>59538934
What a seethy weethy! You're buying leveraged assets when the economy is saturated with debt? Yea, that's going to work out well!
I'm going to buy physical capital assets and profit off of a revaluation.

>>59538934
Shut up, latinx scum

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/bitcoin-fud-6-common-arguments-btc-skeptics-during-bull-markets

Just skip to the comment section. PM Chads are winning.

>>59538392
I'm a bit jelly you can do that in America. It's impossible here because of the Bolsheviks.

>>59539110
No one seems to be telling the truth about what a catastrophe the financial situation in America really is but super-duper telling the truth about BTC. Lett's all go and invest in BTC and just completely forget all of our real-world economic calamities threatening our very existence. There is a shortage of resources twice the size of the U.S. GDP but that's ok. It's those silly banks and insurance companies that own it all! Not us! LOL

There are days like that.. where everything goes your way. :)

>>59539144
>25.50€
and even better than expected

>>59538954
Lmao, stacktards think governments are going back on a metal standard. That's Le Big Dumb. Why would they do that? Would love to hear the stacktard explainer.

>>59539187
>Why would they do that?
You are implying they will be given a choice, that's cute. Ofc they won't do it if they don't have to.

>>59539187
Because foreigners may stop selling their exports for Treasuries and then what do we do? $700BN trade deficit will go unpaid and vanish. And that is not just $700BN in fake terms. That is real-world goods that are amplified in terms of consumption (soaks up domestic inflation), jobs (incomes), and taxes (helps domestic revenue and programs etc).
So if something were to happen to our ability to pay we will have a crippling depression or at the very least a MASSIVE reduction in purchasing power for Americans our debts stop being accepted in lieu of payment.
Those are serious problems that I don't have to worry about. History is on my side that the masses have to be impoverished in order to get the economy balanced and that loss for everyone is easily avoided and also a profit opportunity.
If credit collapses so too will the value of BTC.

Next One Up

>>59539344
>>59539344
>>59539344

>>59539136
I remember being in 3rd grade in the 90's and our teacher saying the USD is backed by gold. I was too young to understand.
2 years ago my uncle said at Christmas dinner that the USD was backed by gold. I told him it's not and explained what fiat currency is in a nutshell.
Normies
>like the resident latinx IQDELETE
Aren't capable of any sort of thoughts beyond what the system in place tells them.

>>59539297
A default wipes the debt
There's already trillions in debt written to be paid for in dollars

>>59534067
>I can't get my money out. Stick to traditional assets. This crypto shit is beyond scammy.
Pic related is basically nostradamus. I highly recommend buying merc dimes and other fractional silver for bartering for small items. There are plenty of things not worth as much as a full ounce of .999 fine silver.

>>59534666
>What we have is a Tinker Bell economy, poisoned with debt, fiat, and MMT. The only way to keep it from collapsing is by convincing everyone that it is real. Hence the massive effort by the government and complicit media to try and convince the public to believe in it.
Trump is the lynchpin of this. The stock market shotup 1000 points as soon as he was announced as president elect. Love him or hate him he's convincing people to keep getting up and going to work.
>yeah things suck right now but they will get better
>I can suffer a bit longer and not snap patience is a virtue
I have no idea how long people will continue to say this. January 20th is when Trump is supposed to be sworn in. Once he's sworn in I personally wager that there is about half of a year or so before people start shitting themselves if things don't get better quickly enough. Things such as gas prices dropping will be enough for many people to point at and say that Trump is making the economy better. It just depends.
>But this isn't Never Land. While there eventually will be a happy ending, it will be preceded by a really dreadful downfall.
We don't have to eat roadkill to restructure our economy. We're food independent. We grow way too much food for apocalyptic shit like that. Again, it just depends.
Also I'm not sure if I want to check those satan digits. Gives me the creeps.
>>59535439
>he's a trolling mehican
Rofl. I hate the guy a lot less now. Just a troll trying to FUD to fill his own bags. I respect the hustle. 4chan used to do troll ops but ever since the tranny jannies ban anons that do that we just fling shit at each other now. Hell, I just might buy a Mexican coin for the tits and giggles now.

>>59540043
I never had a problem cashing out up to $3k at a time.

>>59534067
Idk how you retards have such a hard time. I had no issues with these transactions. Had money in my checking account within a day

>>59540276
>We're food independent. We grow way too much food for apocalyptic shit like that.

Corn, canola, and onions are not foods.