/biz/ - Business & Finance

early bake

rise and grind, good morning bros

Anyone else buying AISP today?

>>59471156
I'm not buying anything until monday (still going to be red)

>>59471144
The old thread has 320 posts, it's fine.

>>59471156
No, I'm holding off until after the holidays.

Should I sell vixy or wait?

Ahhhhhh selll. The inflation!!!

>president musk commands the market to dump with a fed shutdown
>no cash on hand to buy in, still waiting on eoy scorp distributions
>no margin account set up

kill me fucking dead

>>59471185
dump before the house inevitably reaches its eleventh hour deal tonight

I've set a stop loss for my MU shares in case it gets even lower, don't think I will earn money from it but I do hope it rises a bit so I can at least lose a bit less.

>>59471222
at least PCE isn't bad. If you aren't into options then stocks should recover by the time of inauguration, unless that south african down syndrome cunt and his orange princess pull something.

Dump MSTR on Monday or hold until sp500 inclusion next year???

>>59471274
>don't think I will earn money from it but I do hope it rises a bit so I can at least lose a bit less

this is some bagholder core

>>59471333
I'm not concerned about short-term performance, I want more cash to buy in. I'm just whining because I have none until next week and all my assets are tied up in my sbloc. None of this volatility will last past January when Trump & co. start focusing on juicing the market with gov privatization efforts

>>59471371
Hold

>>59471380
Yup, I know. I kind of want it to hit the stop loss so I can get rid of this shitty stock.
I also have another stock that I expect to go up in a week because of buybacks, but it's dropping faster than I expected and I'm not sure the price will go up high enough to compensate.

how much longer do you guys think the microstrategy blood letting will continue? at least till eod or as far as into next week +?

>>59471222
I would not recommend buying on margin now. Wait until after Christmas. Right now, everyone's liquidating to buy gifts.

Gentlemen, OpEx today. Proceed with caution. Good luck.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>59471439
short-term, probably into January? Just follow general crypto sentiment / investment announcements made by institutional orgs

long-term, it'll continue to pump over the next year as US gov begins officializing crypto holdings

>south african down syndrome cunt and his orange princess

>>59471502
Wait does no one do that anymore

Kek another day of trading AISP and making 5%.

>>59471135
ready to deploy a cash position to fill up my ISA allowance for the year, what's a good entry point you're all looking to enter in here for the S&P? I'm hoping 570.

That nigger Powell ruined everything

>>59471574
What platform? Vanguard is raping me with fees

what do you guys have as your general stop limit percentage?

>>59471605
margin call

Where's the guy who called me retarded for holding AISP calls. $125k gains THIS WEEK.

>>59471586
I've got interactive brokers pro (mandated by my employer, don't have a choice). It has a £3 monthly fee and a £3 fee/trade for non-US stocks. But if you make a trade and pay the £3 fee, then you effectively don't have to pay the monthly fee as it's covered. So basically £3/mo unless you do more than 1 trade/mo.

so which one of you feds was shilling TQQQ seconds before disaster instead of saying wait until two days later? I never buy fed scams

>>59471619
Time to sell anon

>>59471666
I knew TQQQ was too good to be true. The shills were too obvious.

>>59471619
WHEN is the contract getting announced, though?

>BOUGHT 10k USD at 49
>IT DROPPED TO 47

please god let it rebound soonish

GET THE FUCK IN BEFORE WE ROCKETSHIP BOYS, MARKETCAP IS ONLY 20M and positive results were announced a moment ago, let's fucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>59471619
>>59471666
This is the same guy btw, he shat on SOUN and AISP, only shitting up threads and likely got banned recently

I don't understand. I bought aisp and kulr few days back and i am Up. Why am i Up. I am never up on anything, i don't know how to absorb this.

>>59471721
let's fucking gooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>59471737
You can put some money in AMD so you can be in the red again.
>>59471737
>kulr
I thought the peak on that had been reached but no, up 90% since I decided not to buy.

>>59471721
damn probably a bit late now

>>59471721
>>59471744
>company whose goal is to help premenopausal women
Yeah... I think i am going to skip this one bros.

>>59471765
I bought intel instead of amd, is that okay to get Red again?

>>59471774
they sold the rights, right now what's gonna make them the big money is helping people stop being fat fucks, research more, if they capture even a fraction of a fraction of the fat fuck market, their marketcap will easily be $1b, even under insanely bearish scenarios, it'll still be multiples of what it is now, America has a fat fuck problem

SANTA CLAUSE RALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

>>59471801
yeah in that direction indeed

Ahh fuckin lame
Missed that TSLA 419 bounce could have made so much money, I got ADHD waiting, what a random time like 7:53, then BOOM it was so algo driven had no time to react.

>tfw have to register my email just to shitpost with my frens on /smg/ again

I'm all in on $GRRR.

>>59471783
Situation is weird because intel seems to make the shit processors now and amd is good. Normally amd is the cheap option vs the better intel/nvidia processors.

>>59471821
bitch ass n*gga lmao

BTW anyone here have any idea what the effect of a stock buyback is on a (supposedly) undervalued stock?

>>59471861
line go up

>>59471721
OK good call anon thank you very much they have a pretty disgusting pipeline I am quite impressed
dry eye, colitis, diabetic nephropathy, pde5i failures and obesity

I've got $5k. I want to put $2500 into NVDA, what else should I do? Or should I put the $5k into NVDA completely

>>59471744
Bro what the hell? I just put two and two together this is NUTS like BONKERS if what I am reading is correct.

They have a Phase 2 study on Bremelanotide which is the name for their drug Vyleesi. This drug makes women hornier and want sex. They are studying the benefits of this drug for Obesity GLP1 adjunct therapy.

Does this mean THEY HAVE A DRUG THAT MAKES WOMEN HORNIER, WANT TO FUCK AND GET THINNER????

A drug that makes you horny AND skinny? 1 dollar a share? hahhahaha

This feels surreal like am I reading this right have I gone insane? This is what if Viagra made you lose 20% body fat.

I want to put 8K right now

What's the safest +15% possible? I don't care about how much time it gets there

>>59471929
$INDO is about to triple bottom

All these AI stocks are fucking memes. I was in and out on SOUN and made my money maybe I'll ride that coaster again but they're so crazy ass volatile and I think the 1 year for all of them is $5

>>59471949
Apparently they got a deal with Burger King lined up so I'm gonna make my money in the next pump and get out as well.

>>59471949
You will regret not holding on to SOUN, we keep warning you. Butterfingers.

>>59471843
I Saw a lot of praise to Intel online because of their new gpu so i thought they are going to recover? Didn't they fire All women and pajeets already? I missed the ship when AMD started with Ryzens and i don't want to repeat the same mistake again.

>>59471981
its so expensive now

>>59471135
How’s the raping? Voo has fucked me the last 3 days. Down $700 on it.

I bought the dip

My entire portfolio looks green for the day, that's a first.

>>59471784
>if they capture even a fraction of the fat fuck market
Novo Nordisk is tanking
Viking Theraputics is tanking
Eli Lilly is not looking that hot either

I get the feeling this fat fuck ozempic market is fizzling out. People are still using it, but there's no excitement in the space because it gives very believable results, in line with people actually following a diet.

Viking have an oral that's had good trials. Nobody really cares until you get FDA approval, which Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly are lobbying like FUCK to prevent.

I want to hook a money hose up to fat fucks too, I'm just no longer optimistic that we'll goto the moon on a bacon grease rocket

I made 5k from trading AISP in my HSA. Should I use that for lasik?

When soun hits 25 I'm selling it all and putting it in to nvidia, google, msft, apple :^)

>>59471987
>buying stock on a barely released consumer product

Intel/AMD's value is tied to their patent holdings of x86 (they are effectively a mandated duopoly) and enterprise sales. Retail shit is functionally an advertising budget for them. AMD is far better in enterprise

Intel's leadership has collapsed and it's going to trade sideways for a long time. Not even government favoritism can prop up this turd

Can anyone please explain to me what is a tick? Also thank you palatin anon.

>>59471721
Based anon for calling this out. Too bad I didn’t have funds available to buy

>>59471981
>Browse /smg/
>See it shilled at $7/share
>Ignore
>Now at $20/share and climbing
Stocks for this feel?

>>59472146
A small bug.

>>59472146
weird edit. nothing on the image looks right

>>59472157
QBTS/RGTI/IONQ quantum small caps

google's willow shilling is driving a hype train for them

>>59471721
Bought at $1.14

>>59472146
That was me, sorry, I'll break up my whale activity next time.

(btw I dumped on you, kthnxbai)

>>59471744
>Anons getting free 15% thanks to anon
>my local ticker for this stock not moving at all
>actually gone down

Go on without me bros

>>59472084
its usually never a bad idea to invest in yourself
see if you can make money off your new eyes some how

Just took profits on $GRRR. Will sit on the cash for a bit and wait for a dip in either $AISP, $SOUN, or $GRRR.

SOUN and PLTR saars we are pumping my basterds

Anyone holding RGTI? when do you plan on selling?

>>59471987
Intel is literally the only stock I regret ever buying, t. Intel baggie.

>>59472252
I bought the top so whenever I'm in modest profit I guess.

>>59472268
Bought 5k worth at 20 and I'm comfy with it. Every argument I have seen against it just seems to ignore the reality that the USA needs chips, Intel pivoted to acquire foundries, Trump needs to shore up US military production, and they will eventually find the right CEO or some other company will buy them for their infrastructure and it's pump hard. Intel is not going to die. All my buys are long term holds so that's good for me I suppose.

>>59471721
>>59471744
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU MAKE ME DO YOU BASTARDS

>>59471928
Basically, once women are put on this, they'll want to fuck x100 more and they'll also look attractive, imagine. I've read studies done on the drug, they used to call it PT-141 before it was approved, the women who'd take it at high doses (doses much higher than they'll use for obesity but still) would get uncontrollably horny and shlick for hours and beg to get fucked. Actual hentai shit. If you think I'm joking, go look it up. You can actually buy it online through nootropics tier websites, it's been available for years. It's the one sex drug that actually works for women.

They're supposed to get massive kickbacks in profits soon as the drug is getting commercialized, they're estimated to get around $160M once all is settled for this horny drug, plus a cut of the revenue after afaik, since they did sell the rights, because they believe they can make more marketing it for obesity than their horny drug, which they do have positive data showing they will. I strongly do believe this is close to the bottom floor, I've been following this company for about 2 years now, knowing that they were going to fall (since they didn't have proper commercialization of their products/revenue stream).

An investor about 3 days ago bought $10m worth of $PTN at $0.875 and obviously isn't going to sell given how low volume it is, they bought it right before the announcement for the positive trials. What that means is that they know the next trial coming up will be positive, I'm betting, or have enough metrics to justify that. It's why I've bought in and I'm very bullish on this stock specifically, I bought in at just $0.75, below even that one investor, so I'm feeling pretty secure. Make a long ramble short, the management for this company is top-tier, they have people involved that know how to speedrun through the FDA and the marketcap is at the perfect level for insane gains. Thanks for reading my ted talk.

>>59472293
Good shit anon, thank you.
I remain skeptical about adoption of fat loss drugs, because like I say, lots of floundering companies in the space currently, and a lot of the excitement seems to have gone, but this sounds pretty interesting

>>59472293
Slight problem with your theory: most of the women taking these drugs would be obese. You would have lots and lots of agressively horny, but still ugly women.

>>59472194
its probably just anons pyramiding on each other :D

>>59471721
how did you find this?

>half of my account on puts
>half of my account on calls
why wouldn't this work

YUGE FUCKING RALLY OOOOOOOOOO

>>59472288
Marketcap AND volume is low. It's a volatile stock. I've got a shitton of calls open for July and I'm holding. Hold on to it for a year or (hope) it goes below whatever price I mentioned whenever I posted my initial post. Don't seethe and cry it went up or down 10 cents at a marketcap of $20m anon kek. Obviously, I'm heavily invested in this stock, and I expect it to hit $10 later this year. Short-term, I'd be surprised if it hit $2. Don't expect it to explode 10x immediately. The next trial results coming out later this month/early Jan and future developments SHOULD make it go up a lot.

Do your own research before YOLO'ing in a stock a random person on 4chan shilled. I believe in this stock, but I could just as much be wrong, you never know. The upswing if I'm right to this one is so high that I think it's worth taking a calculated risk for it, go and read through their financials and see why it's valued as it is, then go read through their papers and trial results and expected results over the next month.

What are your thoughts on REITS [real estate investment trusts]? Basically a series of trusts that own buildings/condos/commercial space/malls/casinos you name it.

There are quite a few that pay quarterly dividends, amounting to nearly 10% a year.

some tickers caught my eye, like MITT , TWO , IVR .

Their book + cash value exceeds their current stock evaluation, what gives? What am I missing? ((experts)) are saying REITS could pose for a 20% gain next year, ontop of the 10% dividends they are currently dishing out. I'm keen on stacking some REIT shares in my portfolio for a long-term hold. Any thoughts or experiences with REITS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvLIJDKk2wY

why the fuck is it going up

i'm ruined

Ahem.

>>59471928
It takes 5+ years to go from phase 2 to FDA approval. Assuming no issues.

>t. chemist

>>59472360
my question about companies like this is are they set up for only one product? if it fails is it over and all money in the stock forever lost or do they move on to work on other products

>>59472337
I've been following this company since 2019, I made my ex use PT-141 (or Vyleesi) eons ago and fucked her brains out. I never bought the stock back then though, the product works, but they were simply too bad at marketing it and the market share wasn't high enough even if they did. Their new partnerships and shifting their focus to other markets to try to enter was a good move on their part. Basically, I just found them because I like sex drugs. 2CB and PT-141 is hands down the best sex drugs people can buy and I'm glad this one is FDA approved now.

I believe it's underpriced, personally. And I'm planning on buying more bags monthly so long as it remains underpriced. There's risks, but the upside is worth it to me.

>>59472403
i hate coomers i hate sex and i hate sexhavers but i do like money and what better than taking money from the groups of people you hate

>didn't buy the dip
I had nothing to buy with because I didn't panic sell.

>>59472423
Exactly the same, fucking lmao

>>59472423
Unfortunately this was the story on my active trading account. I was already 100% allocated. I did manage to top up the boomer retirement fund though.

>he fell for it again
>he thought it was the big one, the crash to end the market fr fr this time
>he sold at the bottom
>again
lol
lmao
big gay bears never win

>>59472442
The point of being a bear is to NOT sell at the bottom

>>59472442
I have to admit i totally shat my pants when i saw my stock drop like 3 points all of a sudden but now it is recovering, thank god

>>59472326
I don't think that's a problem in America, the only problem is how the private insurance companies are going to pay for said drugs.

>>59472360
alright I'll buy 10k when it settles down

>Do your own research before YOLO'ing in a stock a random person on 4chan shilled
no, I like horny women

>>59472369
>What am I missing?
Usually massive fees. Dividends obviously come with mandatory tax events too, so they're most useful as fixed income vehicles imo

REITs aren't fundamentally bad or anything, they're useful as a risk management tool. The question is really just whether they'll pay out better than something super safe like a low cost total stock index fund. In this type of market? probably not

>>59472398
Single drug companies are built to be acquired by eli lilly, but they also have GLP1 drugs in the works like everyone else

>>59472464
Very quickly looking, hyposexuality is a condition which has a lot of hurdles to get insurance coverage for. I would expect the drug's market to primarily be med spas and other shit for wealthier clients who don't care about cost

>>59472392
Dry Eye Disease (PL9643): 10-20% of a $5.5 billion market
Retinal Diseases (PL9654): 5-10% of a $10 billion market
Ulcerative Colitis (PL8177): 5-10% of a $5.8 billion market
Heart Failure with Preserved Ejection Fraction (PL3994): 5-15% of a $5.5 billion market
Diabetic Nephropathy (PL8177): 10-15% of a $2 billion market
HSDD (Vyleesi®): 5-10% of a $5.5 billion market
Obesity (PL7737 & Vyleesi + Tirzepatide combo): 5-10% of a $30 billion+ market

^ here's realistic numbers (as generated by ChatGPT) of the various things they're working on and what you can expect.

Lower estimate revenue: $3.6b annually
Higher estimate revenue: $9.3b annually

Assuming they get approved and get a fraction of a fraction of the marketshare. It's common for bio pharma companies to get 5x the value based off their revenue, so you're looking at a potential marketcap of $20-50b. If all goes well, the stock could be worth $1000 (if $20b) or $2500 (if $50b) if all goes well.

Next one to complete is the dry eye disease treatment, which if successful and gets only 10% of the market share, the marketcap would go to over $1b+ easily. Which would make PTN share at $50+. That's the upside. High risk but MASSIVE reward potential here.

>>59472293
Bought a bag, godspeed anons...

>solf sofi at $16 when it was crashing
>bought in at $15.2
yea, you could say I'm a genius

>>59472293
>>59472492
https://palatin.com/press_releases/palatin-completes-sale-of-vyleesi-to-cosette-pharmaceuticals-for-up-to-171-million/

Palatin sold Vyleesi to another company a year ago and you just bought bags, good job lmfao

>>59472524

Is it too late to ape into $AISP?

>>59472524
I know, and it's priced in, that's why they fell so much in price to begin with. They had to sell the rights for it so they can fund their clinical trials with more promising results. The reason they're low right now is because they don't generate revenue, they rely on the cash from Vyleesi sales (they get a small % cut + cash when it hits X amount of sales) and investors. It's typical of a biopharma company, since clinical trials are expensive.

If I'm "bagholding" for having a couple of call options + $1k thrown in, imagine this guy, who bought in at a higher price than me, after buying $3.4 million worth of shares at $0.875? There's a reason institutional investors are doing this and why the insiders are buying instead of selling imo. I'll be putting more into PTN so long as they remain undervalued. They've shown themselves to be capable of making quality drugs that are FDA approved, and have positive data regarding multiple of their clinical trials. I think this will be the last post I make shilling this company, in case I do accidently pump it up by posting about it here given how low mcap/low volume it is. I plan on getting more. If I get burnt, I get burnt.

>panic sell
>it goes up immediately after
I thought these were memes....do they know?

>>59472623
market makers are constantly monitoring your positions and move the entire market as soon as you buy/sell

>>59472623
Your best bet is to just not look after, if you're not looking its not as fun for them. If you wait 2 weeks it'll just be green and you'll have gotten away with it.

Daily reminder buy MAGS

$$$$ always flows back into Mag7

>>59472180
>>59462493
>>59464735
Thank you for informing me of QBTS

>>59472666
How good is YMAG?

Dead cat bounce over? prices are trending downwards again

Is the Fed gonna step in and save the 10yr? Or are they actually going to let things run their course before we switch presidents?

>>59472464
>private insurance companies
>paying
lmao

>>59472623
Things are in constant fluctuation, they go up to go down and they go down to go up, all that matters is that there is an upwards trend and that you are investing in a real company, not one of those fake ass meme coins or whatever

>>59472678
You don't think it's a dead cat bounce rn? I'd buy in but considering how up in the air quantum shit is right now it seems to be pretty close to the ceiling.

whats going on with pdyn? it goes up and down so much every day

>>59472751
Good enough for me to shill constantly. $19-20 stable NAV that pays a 10-20 cent weekly dividend per share and has exposure to Mag7 via call option spreads. Highly recommend for a weekly divvy that can help pay your bills

pick a stock and I will buy a $100 put on that stock

>>59472880
YPF

SCHD or VOO? Also, are dividends a meme? What is the difference between selling 4% of your portfolio vs receiving a 4% dividend? Is selling 4% of your portfolio the same as giving yourself a 4% dividend?

>>59472880
pdyn

Retard here. How does paying taxes work when you buy/sell stocks or options? What about with dividends if they're all immediately reinvested?
Is my brokerage gonna send me a nice itemized list of taxable events once tax season hits or will I need to figure it out myself and hope the IRS doesn't bone me?

>>59471722
Lmao, remember when he said it was going back to 5 when it consolidated after going up 40% and down to 8 or 9? What a retard. Highs are going lower.

>The market has to crash because gays, trannies, women and minorities have rights.

>>59472929
>How does paying taxes work when you buy/sell stocks or options?
Capital gains taxes are based on how long you've held. Less than a year=more taxes

>What about with dividends if they're all immediately reinvested?
Depends on if you held the stock a minimum of 180 days before the dividend was paid AND if your total income is below $50k/year (including realized capital gains, gambling, and wages).

>Is my brokerage gonna send me a nice itemized list of taxable events once tax season hits
Yes, this is called a 1099 form.

> will I need to figure it out myself and hope the IRS doesn't bone me?
No. Use Turbotax.

>>59472867
Alright. I'll start out small ($300), and test it out. If I like what I see, I'll add the big money.

>>59472893
>>59472928
after staring at the options screen and doing the math on how much I could possibly earn vs how much I could possibly lose I feel like this is a scam and I shan't be wasting my money

>missed the SOUN dip because I have a life outside of stocks

how do I fix this?

>>59473004
cringe and ngmi. bet you're a sexhaver too so its only right you stay poor

>>59472958
Okay good to know. I thought I would have to try to manually calculate all my taxable events for some reason.

>>59473009
i do have a wife and kids, they are indeed a drag on my cash position

>>59473011
Claim them as dependents on your tax returns.

>>59473057
I do. they still need food and stuff though.

>>59472831
My bet is based on institutional investors seeking another "AI" opportunity. Dwave's a consistent underperformer in fundamentals but I expect the quantum hype to continue through 2025 as the tech becomes more well known ("Bitcoin Killer" is one sexy headline)

>>59472905
Depends on your taxation structure but in general dividends are almost always a worse way to take profit when comparing long term lot sales vs QDs. I would always choose VOO/VTI unless you are allergic to selling and are living off ltcg funds (best use case I can think of would be a trust fund) or maybe if you come into a lot of money and want to access ltcg rates quickly (2mo vs 1y)

For most people though, they are products shilled by youtubers which provide worse value but are easy to understand

>>59472491
i have all these things

>>59472976
‘Atta boy, should get you about 15 shares so $1.5 - $3 weekly income off that

>>59473004
Buy when it pulls back to 18 or so, not on the days it goes +10%

>>59473010
You can import the 1099 right into TurboTax

>>59473113
I know Mr. Money Moustache is considered something of a meme and a bad joke, but read his stuff about frugal living. It can only help.

PLTR AND SOUN MY BASTERDS

>>59472561
Why didn't you shill this at 0.75, when you bought?

We back baby!

To anyone still holding SOUN: why?

>>59473331
>t.bought at 24 and sold at 18

>>59473331
I have already sold my initial investment and have removed most of the risk, so now I am taking this ride, with my remaining shares, all the way to CES, where another potential surge could happen. All profit and smiles from here.

Why is there so much option trading with $AISP?

>>59473331
so that i can sell it when the price goes up more and make more money as a result

>>59473331
I'm not selling until it's a household name

What's you guys' prognosis for how high SOUN will go?

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>>59473331
To sell it low at a later date, duh.

>>59473331
>>59473361
This, my cost average is under 6, selling 30% in February when it's long term capital gains and letting lest ride. There's more news coming, soundhounds Nvidia moment is soon.

whats going on with rcat? i see no news but its pumping on unusual volume

>>59473403
50-100b mcap = 5-10x

Thoughts on KULR?

I only trust /biz/ schizos when trying to find stocks to invest in.

I'm 100% in cash and I dont know what to buy
Should I keep waiting?

>>59473536
Use 90% of the cash to buy an S&P 500 fund or a total market fund. Use the remaining 10% to buy whatever /smg/ shills (in this case, SOUN, AISP, and PLTR).

>>59473558
So I can maybe make 5% gain/loss over the next 6 months?
why bother?

>>59473570
I never said you had to do it immediately. Wait until the next crash and buy in then.

>>59473536
Yeah you need atleast 5% in SOUN it's cheap under ath

>>59472880
HCMC

>>59472905
>SCHD or VOO?
Both. They accomplish different goals.

Dividends are a very very long term play. Reinvesting dividends has a snowball effect. If you reinvest your dividend then the next dividend period comes you are earning dividends on your initial capitol AND your dividends. Repeat that ad nauseum for decades and you can balloon your position out til you are making thousands a month in dividends that you can live off or heavily supplement your income in retirement. All while keeping 100% of your position and not giving a fuck about selling into potentially bad market conditions.

You also need to keep in mind that the 4% or whatever yield you see is only true for buying right now at current market price. If you buy a dividend stock at a $100 with a 4% yield and it goes to $150, your 100 dollars isn't giving you 4 dollars in dividends, it's giving you 6. So you are getting a 6% yield on your $100 investment. The idea that dividend stocks stay flat for all eternity is a myth. Go look at AVGOs chart.

And to compound on top of that if you invest in companies that increase their dividend pay outs over time your yield becomes even better over time.

>>59473601
I'm the guy that sold close to the top after making 3.3x.
I'm scared to buy back in.

>>59473630
BRK.A pilled.

>>59473337
I bought at 7-9 and sold at 23.5

>>59473536
DCA into QQQ on the next red day, if you want higher risk same game plan (and by red day I mean a 2% drop on at least the Nasdaq though those are few these days)…FNGU, BULZ, TQQQ, SPYU, IBIT for crypto exposure, TECL, UDOW, SOXL

Need dat leverage to make (srs) gains and leave humanity behind

>>59473639
My strategy is mostly formed by an adversion to pay short term capital gains I'm holding to Feb to lessen taxes. But we both know CES is going to be bullish. It's like selling after pltr peaks and then cools down. We both know it's going back up you stand to gain a risk free 10% then whatever it runs after. You made 3.3x put 30-40% of your profit in, you'll still have principle investment and 2x profit you'd have let's say 4000 put 2000 in you'd have 1300 which is principle investment + 700 in cash profit + 2000 in shares. Come on bro let's cream these shorts. Brother help me run this to $50 kek wills it.

market closed...
no reason to live until next monday...

Redpill me on AISP why do you think it's going anywhere at all

keep buying all these soun dips :)

>>59473724
Take the time for yourself/hobbies/family/friends. Or pivot some into crypto jewery so theres always more open charts to burn into your retinas.

>>59472343
You'll pay so much for the premiums you won't probably actually make money unless there's some gargantuan volatility that blows one way.

>>59473773
doubtful. there was some mention of them having a contract they're yet to announce, but also some articles about them being investigated for some reason.

Anybody else buying tankers right now? Such a good dip... I must SLURP it.

Close was weak, didn't recover 5950, expect more pain to be possible at least in Q1 2025.

People don't even know what a dip is since majority of the traders haven't seen a bad market unless they're like 40 kek.

>>59473719
Its cheap under $22.50 get in faggots, havent sold a single share, also i thought i was transfering my shares to etrade i got 3 shares on Etrade too so thats 1362 shares im still buying but i bought alot including precious metals on black friday so i got to pay off 1000 on my credit card but after jan 10th im buying more $SOUN

What's the downside of a 45/45/10 VOO/SCHD or VUG or something/random gambling strategy? Would I get taxed more due to dividend related shit compared to going 90/10 VOO and gambling?

Managed to snag a bunch of PTN at market close for .96, I'm here with you lads

>>59473841
>PTN
the name makes me think of palantir whats the deal with them?

it's good to see /smg/ on /biz/ being popular once again, /bant/ is more hentai than actual stock discussion

>>59473794
What’s the DD on tankers going back up? I used to fuck with TNK and STNG but both are down about 25% ytd

>>59473811
not buying your bags, faggot

Did anyone here short GALT?

>>59473993
I'm not selling faggot

Heck of a Santa Claus rally today. I'll see you lads next week.

>>59473786
that investigation is literally nothing, stockholders were just concerned about how aisp got their capital for Q3

Should have took my own advice and into’d this but didn’t have any funds…MSTR going back to 400-440 range thing moves so quickly

>>59474503
Need Mstx x2 long

>>59473700
why are you all such boring investors?

>>59474513
gambling is for fags
I just want steady income to buy tendies

>>59474513
Poorfags desire excitement. Smartfags desire prosperity.

>>59471722
not the same person.

>>59472941
still up way, way more than you this year lmao. And I’ve never been short SOUN. I made 2-3x off it and bailed before earnings, which was the right move. Haven’t touched it since but don’t think it’s trading on fundementals currently and is overvalued atm.

>>59474582
now thats some strong copium

>>59472941
And I was right when it went back down after earnings. Haven’t really had an interest in trading it since. The recent price action was completely unpredictable and unexpected (and unwarranted imo). I mostly trade around more predictable catalyst

>>59474513
Boring as opposed to what 0DTE’s and weeklies? I am over leveraged rn not gonna lie, need NVDA at 150+ in order to make this hold worth it, holding collecting my divvy and throwing more $ to keep it (((moving)))

>>59474605
>>59474598
And to be clear idgaf about our opinions on SOUN, my complaint from the start has been your pajeet teir shilling of it. Someone will ask ‘should I sellnGOOG’ and you’ll respond and say ‘yes and buy SOUN’. you just shill it and only it every single chance you get, it’s tiresome. I don’t shill my picks I just answer questions about them or post relevant info. If others like it it’ll gain organic traction on its own.

Place becomes an echo chamber if tripfags like you aren’t kept in line.

>>59474327
bye

>>59474513
To be blunt, if you have a steady source of income, like a real job, then making safe investments that even 2x your money is a huge QOL boost. You don't need to go too crazy if you're already financially secure.

Not that I'm a richfag by any means, but I enjoy my job and see investment as more of a salary multiplier than gambling for the big bucks. Well, mostly, I also have some crypto too.

>>59474788
at this point crypto isnt even a gamble anymore, at least not as much in the past because of BTC having real money pouring into it now and all shitcoins' value being based on BTC

>>59471135
Guys I'm finally understanding how to trade options and there seems to be nothing indicating that you can lose this way. You don't have to wait for something to hit a certain price to buy in or short, your trade won't be exercised for as long as a year, so you really can't lose.

>>59474788
despite the internet making it look like everyone is making 100k starting from any job its not reality for real people out in the real world. but sure if you're middle class and so mediocre at everything it can be a nice retirement bonus decades later

>>59474835
What's your master strategy? How do you guarantee never lose? How rich are you anon?

>>59474855
he just browses /smg/ everyday and only buys /smg/ approved stonks, duh

>>59474855
I'm just learning and it's been an expensive learning experience.

I mainly run short puts so time decay works in your favor. I look at recent lows for an individual stock and place my strike price below that. Since this will fill without the stock reaching that low, it means I am not at the mercy of the market. The expiration date is set in the future, so you can choose to exercise (close) the option whenever you'd like.

I'm starting to make steady $700/day from this with minimal loss so I'm slowly divesting from my main portfolio into my option account.

I have 750k in my main portfolio, only 50k in my options account, and 150k in other things.

I'm not rich but I've made several good plays. When Robinhood halted GME trades back in Feb 2021, I made 45k in about 10 days (picrel). I also bought LINK back in 2020 for 1.55 and sold at 40. So I had a million back then.

Since then it's roughly the same amount but that's because I had lots of expenses in 2021, and lost a good deal (around 200k) from high-leveraged forex trading and being bipolar.

It's house-money effect, so the money i gain from trading doesn't feel like my money so I end up losing a good amount from the same risk that got me (relatively) rich.

>>59474873
This too. I learned of QBTS, SOUN, LUNR, RKLB etc from /biz/.

I've also had help learning options from some anons here.

>>59474920
>>59474855
>>59474835
>>59471135

>>59474838
There's a way to convey this without coming off as an insecure dipshit

>>59474835
you learned how to do leaps in a bull market? congrats
>nothing indicating that you can lose this way.
kek

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/EDIT/community/

was in this back in May, i was scared then, i knew it was going down. those poor dudes

>>59475034
see as how we are now in eternal bull market forever and ever until the collapse of everything everywhere he'll be fine
because when it does end not having enough money will be the least ofall of our problems lmao

Fuck it, let's just make the entire economy planned by glowniggers and committees of cigarette-smoke-shrouded faceless men in suits and have all bull and bear markets at pre-predicted intervals so that anyone who invests can get rich by just buying low and selling high. Decouple the whole thing from reality. Make the real economy operate out of a bagel shop three blocks away from Wall Street and don't let any actual Jews even touch it but put some knockoff jew ethnic group like armenians in charge of the whole thing. Fuck it.

>>59475148
this post is like, several decades late, it's already been like that for a while now, (You) and desu I also were just late as fuck to the party

100 by end late March at this r8

Never bet against the (((deep state)))

>>59474920
so wait do you buy options or are you selling them? Also how recent of a low are you talking about; basically on what timeframe are you looking at?

>>59472666
God bless you. I bought because of you a little while ago.

>>59472666
>>59472867
I got MSTY because of you a little while ago. God bless you.

>>59475298
It will head back to 38 soon enough, very rare for it to be under 30 and it took the (((fed))) dumping the markets 3% for it to happen been starting to build a bag myself… Not my stack but here’s some motivation

/biz/ talking about high yield ETFs and nav erosion is a top signal

>>59474835
>so you really can't lose.
Stopped reading right there

>>59473937

I think that tankers stand to gain back a lot of what they lost this past few quarters once Trump calls off WWIII. That’s unironically the reason why we’re here. FRO is looking exceptionally slurp-able.

>>59475359
What kind of position do you have to have to see dividends like this?

If I'm just going to be a lazy shit and go long on index funds, what platform should I do this on? Vanguard, Fidelity, Schwab? Something else?

New-ish to options, but have made some money in the past.

I bought a 5$ AISP call for 01/15/27 when AISP was 3.10. Since then, AISP has gone up dramatically, but my call has only increased in value by ~10%. Occasionally, it will jump to 200%, and then rapidly fall back down to 20 or 10%.

Can someone spoonfeed me what's going on? I'm quite frustrated. Obviously buying a LEAP is going to reduce my return substantially, but it's insane i'm making virtually no gains on such dramatic growth

>>59475532
If all you're doing is making like 6-12 purchases per year, not even trades, does it really matter?

>>59475563
you bought too far out and the fluctuations are just people raising the asking price to sell really high up. Either that or your contracts are really short dated and are about to expire without being in the money at 5 dollars.

>>59475578
My contracts expire in 2027, lol. So essentially, the only way to make actual money would be if AISP 5xs or 10xs, as theta will (albeit very slowly) decrease the value of my contracts over time, correct?

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-plans-blacklist-company-that-ordered-tsmc-chip-found-huawei-processor-source-2024-12-20/
>be a foreign competitor
>buy products designed by US tech companies
>get sanctioned
I think I finally understand why nvidia isn't going up anymore. They refuse to add more VRAM to their consumer products but at the same time their AI products are being gatekeeped by the feds.

>>59475578
>>59474920
>>59475578


Any suggestions for AISP options? I'm looking at April 2025 5$

>>59475590
Imagine if china just disappears from this chart. Would it be safe to safe NVDA should drop another 15% next year?
Am I wrong? Kind of wondering if I should dump my NVDA shares.

>>59475532
Whichever is most convenient. It doesn't matter. The only reason to shop around on this is 1) you intend to trade a lot, therefore care a great deal about whether or not there are fees 2) you need specific things like proprietary trading platform (thinkorswim for example)

Most flexible choice is Schwab just because no fees and you get access to thinkorswim anyway. You do not need this for long hold index funds at all but maybe you might want it in future.

>>59475589
>>59475593
find contracts that cost more and have a closer bid to ask spread. you're guaranteed to get a hit if you need to sell in a pinch. If you're trying to farm delta, the closer to expiry you are the faster the moves. NFA I would suggest test running a contract that is 3 months out and selling out early if it moves against you of course. But if it moves in your favor it should increase in value. This is more true for stocks that are higher value as since delta moves on a per dollar kind of deal, it's easier for high valued stocks to move said dollars.

>>59475626
Could you demonstrate this using AISP as an example? That advice is very helpful, thank you

>>59475638
might be able to let me see.

>>59475651
>>59475626
Thank you, I am certain it is going to increase in value further, but I purchased a pretty useless call option

>>59475661
something like this, watch for IV too you dont want it to be too high.

>>59475692
its important to note that they get expensive the closer they are to the actual underlying price, so NFA dont go too crazy if you can't afford it.

>>59475692
>>59475697
I was thinking of this one too.

I suppose i'll roll my LEAP to this call, or maybe the 6$ option

thank you so much

I need something fun to YOLO half a life savings on 1 week calls on Monday, wut do? And I need something disgusting to YOLO on. Absolutely degenerate. No pennies, no AISP you cunts. I was thinking PLTR.

>>59475374
It’s built in to the fund, pic rel doesn’t include decembers payout and I’ve only been holding since about April, gonna sell some covered calls / DCA but it is nice to get the guaranteed cash (plus margin so 2x buying power) monthly as opposed to trying to swing stocks. 4-6 more months and I’ll be playing with house money. As long as the underlying goes up on a long enough time scale you win. Take the chart and add up all the monthly distributions and it’s almost as up as NVDA ytd


>>59475479
What other tickers do you like? What is good for domestic export since Trump wants to still. I see gas going back near Covid levels within 2 years. $1.99/gal I can see it now. What to buy to benefit from this?

>>59475527
Pays ~$3-$4 per share monthly the past few distributions. Thursdays distribution was $3.08 so that is about 60k shares @ probably $26-30 a piece depending on when bought. Whale $ for sure

>>59475590
eventually they will get left behind. no one wants to buy from an unreliable vendor

>>59475374
>/biz/ talking about high yield ETFs and nav erosion is a top signal
more or less
I've found real TA and other irl use on biz and pol, not so much the other boards at all.. but it's very rare and vanishes fast
there are def feds here trying to squeeze you

>>59471481
>everyone's liquidating to buy gifts
you can't be serious

What do you guys think of LUNR? They just won a multi billion nasa contract.

>>59477791
again?

>>59477791
What’s the pipeline to the next launch? Next earnings is 3/20 what happens between now and then in terms of projects/missions? Calls are fairly cheap around here could be worth a lotto ticket or 2

>>59475771
depends. if half your life's savings is like a year of salary then you should just get a hobby with the money or something. and put the rest in S&P 500. don't throw it all away

TSLA head and shoulders chart? Scoops should be unbanned soon expext to see this retarded nigger back on Monday

How does a retard noob like me get started?

>>59478998
>retard noob like me get started?
start with some education
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKPmtbCmkE4

>>59479108
Lurk moar

>>59477791
I'm gonna put all my money into lunr calls

>>59473536
Sell puts. Its like getting paid to buy the dip.

m: +4k
T: +1k
W: -6k
Th: -1k
F: +4k

Somehow managed to come out 1.4k ahead for the week. Also got over $500 in dividends. I also had 1,800 shares of $RUM but I sold $8 covered calls on. Shares jumped to 10.80 in after market so they got called away anyway.

Its enough to make me take up smoking again.

ugh, tonight I was having anal secks with my boyfriend & he pulled out too fast so I pooped everywhere & we were having sloppy joes for dinner so it was really wet and mushy and nasty so now im washing the sheets and showering

how is your weekend going, reddit?

don’t forget to buy SOXL or FNGU

>>59479736
Scoops go to sleep

>>59479777
I can’t go to sleep because then my sheets would stain
ugh maybe I should just get rubber sheets so that my boyfriend can keep pillaging my butthole every night without having to worry about getting poop everywhere

don’t forget to buy SOXL or FNGU

>>59478998
100% VTI while you read what all the words mean and develop a strategy

am i retarded for holding 600k in VOO and 200k in nvdia?

i inherited a property from a relative last year and sold it this spring. i put 100k in nvda at $115 and it was doing so well that i chose to re-distribute another $100k and bought at $139 based on the consensus price target being $170

i don't trade daily but i constantly check my portfolio and i took a 40k last week after initially going up 60k

should i just sell my NVDA $139 shares next time i break even? what do you guys think of large growth etfs versus index funds?

>>59479787
Kek based scoops

Just curious what would you guys do if you were me. I’ve spent a lot of time being me so my plan is
>finish degree (2 more terms)
>get USPS IT job (am career/internal employee so can apply to programmer jobs before public)
>run mushroom business and do e-commerce with it
>invest 10% lottery ticket plays 90% logical
Not sure how to calc net worth when a business owner but I’m at about $100k rn, and expect to be $300k next year whether or not I get the job.


I want the job, it sounds nice to do an e-commerce and weekend warrior business with a $100k/yr remote job, but I know I’d still be sad. Like I should be contributing to something greater. Anyone have advice?

>>59480252
Forgot to mention I’m 29. I expected to graduate when I was 25 but shit has non-stopped happened since then. I don’t think the arbitrary age perimeters matter but holy shit the last two have made me tired, gray and thinned.

>>59480252
>>59480255

bull or bear on monday?

>>59480252
just do it, you have the plan you'll be 30 soon and if you don't do it you'll start thinking it's over because you're 30

Do you think I can afford to take my eye off the ball this week?

Last week was a shock and while we're used to volatility ahead of Christmas there's seems to be a heightened risk of getting our pants pulled down.

>>59480635
Well it's the 23rd December so bullish for booze and movies. I'm hoping we can talk about trading music like we did a few years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWdfNakkBFM

>>59479897
>am i retarded for holding 600k in VOO and 200k in nvdia?
No, but I prefer VTI for the additional small cap exposure. Either of those are solid, cheap funds

>should i just sell my NVDA $139 shares next time i break even? what do you guys think of large growth etfs versus index funds?
You sound like you're young and wanting to gamble, but you don't need to. It may not feel like it right now, but if you just wait, your life can already be set up.

To the specific investments:
NVDA is likely to trade sideways for a few months imo, but the AI hype will be cyclical (notice the marketing around o1/o3?). I wouldn't sell that position until 2026 at earliest

If you want to bet additional money on growth, consider a fund like VIGAX. I wouldnt sell VOO to buy into tech though, total stock indexes are already very tech heavy.

If you want to gamble, slice out <$50k and play with that instead

ugh my butthole hurts from getting pillaged and having gay sex all night

don’t forget to buy SOXL or FNGU

>>59480252
>get USPS IT job (am career/internal employee so can apply to programmer jobs before public
One option is to have steady job and invest. Most people do not research or understand what benefits are available from their employer, or how to max them. Many government agencies are fucked beyond any help, but you can get them to pay for your training and experience, get stable pay and benefits. Government benefits have generally decreased over time for newer employees, but there are alway special options for connected people, and you can get connected if you work at it. There is alway more competition when you move up, more backstabbing, cheating, but that is everywhere. Look at the top, top people in ever organization, review their history, education and so on, you generally see they got the job based on being connected to someone higher up. Check your local and state fed elected officials, which ones are on what committee, who oversees the going postal office, if they are your locals/state start donating some money to their campaigns, small amounts for year, go to thier campaign events, get to the staffers, they are the connections to the senator/congressperson. Plan several routes to move up in the organization for more money/better bennefits. Look at the top positions. A letter or phone call from the office of the senator/congress person can get you the job, but then you owe them.

>>59480252
for some reason the pic did not post. This is the top salary for USPS currently publically listed. What classes experience would set you up for the qualifications/experience requirements, then its your connections that help get it. IT/cybersecurity is the future and has been for some time, if you like that work.

>>59480375
Christmas rally into the new year we are so back

Newfag to boglefagging. My question:
Everyone seems to recommend Vanguard ETFs. However if I'm using Fidelity as a broker, is there any advantage to using the Fidelity equivalents, like FSKAX over VTI? Say, lower fees or something because I'm on their platform?

>>59482075
.015% vs .03%, not really worth caring about

ugh I been shidding and farding out my boyfriend’s cumm all day

don’t forget to buy SOXL or FNGU

>>59481062
>>59482238
I like to suck off my boyfriend’s cock after it’s all bloody and poopy from pillaging my butthole all day long

based SOXL and FNGU enjoyer

>>59482075
Why don't you look and compare the prices along with any other features?

Although I'd probably stay away from total world or S&P500 until August at the earliest. Not saying there's a massive correction on the way but I think a lot of people expect a mid-cap and manufacturing catch-up next year.

>>59478998
use your instinct and just throw money at options, just think up or down
theres a certain noob bias that can earn you big money when you arent aware of the minefield around you
im not kidding here

>>59482208
>>59482459
Thanks bros. I'll probably just buy in soon anyways regardless of market corrections, since I don't plan on touching it for at least a decade.

>>59482591
Things are different when you're down 10%, everyone is posting pink faces and bobos, and you think about the fat deals in the market.