/biz/ - Business & Finance

keep on stackin, /pmg/

>>59162689
Based keep on sticking Kind Fren. What are you up to tonight?

>>59162716
currently walking on a treadmill

Just scored 40 1oz roos for $45aud / 29usd each. Spot is $47 here.

I was watching an old HBO series called Carnivàle about a traveling circus/freakshow during the great depression. After the snake lady danced everyone threw silver coins/rounds on the stage.

*stacking
>>59162733
>treadmill
I wish I had room for a treadmill.
>just remembered I have a stationary bike put away in the basement
Moving it to my living room now, that'll make me use it more lol. Got a good playlist recommendation?

>>59162739
PLUNDER AHOY ME HEARTIES!!!!
pray tell, how did a seaman manage such a capture?

>tfw just moved back to NZ and the storage place I had things in lock up fucking didn't inform me it was broken into because the lock and stuff was replaced.
There goes about 100 ounces

>>59162788

>>59162790
>not burying your treasure
commiserations shipmate, may the nigger who's hand touched your silver find it only weighs him down as he sinks to davy jones locker.

>>59162798
Appreciate it Captain. What's worse is the shipping laws if I try to order overseas

>>59162790
>storage place
Shit. Sorry to hear fren :(

Reminder that nothing regarding the fundamentals has changed

>>59162603
test

>Paper Money Guaranty

>>59162849
neat

>>59162788
Why would one pirate tell another pirate where X is on his map?

it's over, PMG bros
this is why i wanted kamala to win
we'd be pushing $40 / $3000 right now
why... why did trump have to win and renew americans with a sense of optimism
pain and misery is the lifeblood of PM gains

>>59162911
The fake spot price is getting hammered by other factors in the background like the Comex raising margin requirements twice last week.

>>59162911
But we get cheapies longer.

>>59162603
newfag retard here
I have zero idea how all of these works

Was Trump winning the main factor of gold prices plummeting? Can I expect gold prices to stay low for the next 4 years of his presidency?
Thanks in advance

>>59162603
So when will da joos give me my ultimate cheapies?

>>59162962
>Can I expect gold prices to stay low for the next 4 years of his presidency?
No one can see that far out. It could resume course after inauguration, it could drop to $1800 in 6 months who knows? $10,000 by 2028 or $1000? Yeah let me check my tea leaves and chicken bones.

>>59162962
>Was Trump winning the main factor of gold prices plummeting?
No. Comex raised margin requirements twice last week.
>Can I expect gold prices to stay low for the next 4 years of his presidency?
No, you can expect PM volatility. And you can expect the economy going to absolute shit and WW3 within 2 years.

>>59162978
>you can expect the economy going to absolute shit and WW3 within 2 years
Prove it. Could be 20 years, could be never and we all get a long after a while. No idea man, can't say anything for certain.

>>59162987
I can't prove it because it hasn't happened yet. It's a theory but I am confident in it.

>>59163004
>I am confident in it

>>59163011
Whatever. Go back to sleep.

>>59163016

>>59163044
>keep it nice a dumbed down
no

>>59163004
Tell us.

>>59163052
>keep it nice a dumbed down
H̷u̴h̵?̵ ̵M̴u̸s̷t̴ ̷b̷e̸ ̵a̴ ̸b̶o̸t̶.̸

>>59162962
>Can I expect gold prices to stay low for the next 4 years of his presidency?
Hell no, quite the contrary. It seems like most people don't get what is Trump's goal as a president. His main objective is to reduce back the US empire into a sovereign nation, in order to avoid the painful crash accompagnying every empire's collapse who are blinded by their hubris and refuse to give up once their time has come. Of course going from worlwide hegemon to a local national power will be painful too, but at least the US could survive it.

The kikes/deepstate want the opposite of this : maintain the US global dominion for as long as possible, consequences be damned. They only seek their own advantage because the rootless elite wont be there to suffer the consequences of their actions, i.e. the implosion of the empire, they have the wealth to leave to greener pastures anytime they want.

Every action Trump has taken so far is pointing toward this direction, of the US being less governing of their colonies and less warmongering. Tariffs on imports, dissolving NATO, not participation in the Green newdeal, reimplementing the industrial forces, no implication in ME conflicts, less governance over the EU, stopping the financing of the ukraine war, etc.. everything is going toward the same direction : withdrawing from the world scene.
And eventually the big piece will be the abandon of the US dollar as reserve currency, it probably is *the* main goal to achieve during his presidency. But what will take the USD spot once it's gone? If foreign nations deal in USD, it's not by pleasure, but because they trust even less their neighboring economic partners to not fuck up their own currencies. The gap will have to be filled with a trustless, intrinsically valuable and widly recognized medium of exchange : gold. Gold (and silver too) will have to absorb all the trades' money to fill the void eventually, so this is gigabullish.

>>59163064
The deep state want to break the stagnation of the old world order and intentionally begin wars so humanity so we don't see a bronze age collapse all over again, but that's a topic for another time

>>59163064
>His main objective is to reduce back the US empire into a sovereign nation
Or he could just continue BAU with the fed while cutting a few bureaucratic jobs and enacting a few tariffs that the next president might undo. He'll provide a brief period of positive economic prosperity at best for the next few years and it could make things better or worse in the long run. Thing will seem better for a bit after the dust settles but you're being a little too optimistic.

>>59163077
I mean, the transition may not be done in just 4 years, but he's working toward this goal. Will he be able to accomplish it? I highly doubt it, there are too many enemies within, forces to powerful for him to contest on his own, like the CIA or DoJ. Just like during his last term, there will be a strong resistance from his own administration, and a president can't accomplish much when his officials (especially the lifelong parasites, who survived many administrations and have the nuisance ability to make everything slow and painful in an organization) are sabotaging the efforts from within.

Last time he tried to apply his "art of the deal" tactic, by making many (too many) concessions in order to have some others stuff done. But that's not how you operate with a deep state. The only true solution is the threat of mass executions for treason, you must cast fear in their hearts, not trying to negociate as if you were buying a carpet in a morrocan souk.

>>59163126
>The only true solution is the threat of mass executions for treason, you must cast fear in their hearts, not trying to negociate as if you were buying a carpet in a morrocan souk.
Trump is on his 2nd term at this point anon. He doesn't have to hold back anymore. In the 1st term you have to convince everybody that you're totally chill if you want even a chance of running again. He doesn't have to worry about that anymore unless he wants to shred the 22nd ammendment. They've also tried to kill him three times now there's just no fucking way he's not out for blood behind the scenes.
Most people won't have any sort of real wealth once the opps of Trump tank the global economy just to spite him. One merc dime equals one bj.

>>59163222
checked!
I would assume he will start with normal stuff so that it'll get passed
he can't go full extremist without people not voting with him to avoid being implicated in any future issues

>>59162603
>Tunya Edition
That's oddly specific.
How about parks in general?

>>59163222
>Most people won't have any sort of real wealth once the opps of Trump tank the global economy just to spite him. One merc dime equals one bj.
This is it. All they need to get the public to turn against the orange man is just report the truth about the direction the economy has been in since 2020

>>59163222
God I want a gobbo/imp wife to impregnate and drop shinies on.
Let it get cheaper for the next 4 years.
I need more cheapies.

>>59162962
the market has priced for stability. When the market thought Cumala was going to win they predicted an unstable market. Because of this people were running for tangible assets. Now that that's over the market is moving back to intangible assets like stocks and crypto

wtf janny tranny???

wheres my fucking pirates?

>>59162875
a wise answer
>>59163315
did somebody post revealing goblin girls on a blue board? silly billys.

>>59163469
ahoy me hearties!
A lot of sea dogs getting scuppered this morning, I'll weigh in with my prediction from the last thread;
Over the next 2 months, possibly 6, we see a drop in gold price of about 10 to 20%, then it plateaus and rises to approx double what it is now over the next 4 years. There will be an initial rally but then a big dip, and a lot of downward trending crabbing.
TL;DR you want to plunder cheapies? Hold fast for 2 months, but keep a weather eye on the charts.

I just found this monstrosity to buy, a Niue 2017 Panda.
How much premium do you think it's worth paying for it?

It is currently listed +22% over spot price.

>>59163670
It’s not rare. What do you mean by “you just found it to buy?” You have the entire Internet at your disposal you don’t have to shop from 1 person only or whatever it is you’re doing.

>>59163566
I wish gold gave me a goblin gf

>>59163670
>mfw
it's not very plunder
depends where you are though, taxes and that

>>59163810
I have a theory, which has proven true for myself; the more you do things you love, especially in public/on public websites, the more they lead you to things you want in life, by attracting like-minded people.
However one must be cautions about revealing your stack to people. I'd do things like carry a gold or silver coin with me, and ask the goblina serving me at the tavern;
>"do you take these?"
of course the answer will be no and if yes, you can say
>"actually this is worth far more than what these drinks cost" etc etc
A lot of my friends have been impressed with the reichsmarks, and one very happy to receive them as a birthday present.

morning

>>59163469
At the mint being fixed because they were made without serial numbers

>>59163686
>What do you mean by “you just found it to buy?”
The problems of multitasking. I rewrote the message but forgot to remove the "to buy" part.

>You have the entire Internet at your disposal you don’t have to shop from 1 person only or whatever it is you’re doing.
Store prices are similar, there's 20% VAT, with the plus that some require your ID.
People either buy from foreign sites at bulk, or go p2p.

>It's not rare.
Thanks, I'll try to push to get it cheaper.
Let's see if I can get it as close as spot as possible.

they're pouting and not coming to today's meetings

Does Trump's win mean anything for us?

>>59164022
probably buys us a few more months of stacking

>>59164022
>Does Trump's win mean anything for us?
If he uses Elon Musk to shrink the federal government, yes because it will reduce spending and delay the USD collapse allowing for more cheapies longer. America sorting its finances out isn't going to stop the revaluation of gold because the current western financial system can't be saved. BRICS reintroduction of gold for international trade is still going to make us wealthy if things go according to plan and succeed.

accidentally said this in the last thread as died but,
how come no one talks about bullion exchanges when it comes to online sellers? Whenever i talk to people about where they buy, they always say, "so-and-so has the cheapest price" but when i look them up its more expensive than bullion exchanges?

>>59164022
They tank the economy to spite the orange man

>>59164229
What is a bullion exchange?

>>59164246
This. They are going to bring this market crashing down and blame it on trump, after they have cooked the books and printed trillions the past 4 years. Why do they need to prop it up anymore? Just about everything positive is priced in by now.

>>59164256
sorry, bullionexchanges the website

>>59164229
It depends on what you're buying. Pimbex is also pretty cheap but has a $300 min. order and more limited shipping areas.

BE always seems to be sold out of tubes of mercs. Monument has been good about keeping them stocked and lowest price I've seen AND available.

>>59162716
new stacker here. Whats the benefit of these older coins? Are they cheaper oz?

>>59164246
The collapse was always inevitable regardless of who won

>waits for dip
>goes up $0.70
rEEEEEEE

>poorfag motivation
There are many reasons to stack silver and gold. Don't let being poor stop you. In every other PMG thread, some chad drops a chart showing how little you would actually need to be a top 3% holder after real price discovery, where the GSR moves closer to its historical norm.

It may take a few years, but it WILL happen. All this american debt printing garbage has already destroyed your purchasing power and it's only a matter of time before it becomes impossible to ignore and we're "spending" 20 dollars for a loaf of bread, 70 for bologna.

I don't have a lot of money after expenses each month, but I can still afford 1 or 2 silver coins each month. because I'm a poor american and am taxed at a -19% each year, i spent my last two returns picking up a little gold.

If you haven't started yet, don't self-fudd. Only a handful of coins may be the difference between staying put, or moving yourself (and your family) out of the gutter.

>We still have plenty of time. Stack while you still can.

>>59164229
Try this link for a big list of dealers with ratings:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSXuSjh_8621XAG_JDvfP4vY4_fiKeM0KD-8guzr8dDZU_cjNLCkF4nYWlQM10gD4UtqQWNoH0JGEp8/pubhtml
If you have complaints/suggestions about new entries or ratings, I can change them.

Feeling tired and lonely right now...

>>59164280
There is no benefit to buying the older coins. They are only recognized by a few boomers and autistic collectors. You want to buy modern bullion. Modern is more desired by younger generations and easier to liquidate. Try selling a 20 franc Rooster and compare that to selling a 2024 1/4 ounce american gold eagle. The gold eagle will sell better 10 times out of 10. Same with silver. Only buy 1 ounce maples or american eagles for liquidity and recognition. Trust me no zoomers will be buying your 1913 silver francs kek.

>>59164263
>after they have cooked the books and printed trillions the past 4 years.
Try the last 50 years.

>>59164314
We're all here for each other fren.
>>59164280
>>59164315
There is absolutely a benefit. They're more recognized and less likely to be counterfeit for starters.

>>59164329
That is completely false. Older coins lack counterfeit measures that modern coins like maples have. Older coins are much more likely to be faked because of their simplistic designs their age. Gold double eagles and indian heads are some of the most faked coins in the world

>>59164336
I don't know enough about gold to comment on that, you're probably right though, but I've never seen counterfeit Swiss junk. And being a neutral country they have more liquidity than Reichsmarks for example.
>captcha N000T

>>59164282
Correct. And the almighty "they" don't have control. Everyone in the know is scrambling to scrape the last wealth out of the system and brace for impact. But the impact is inevitable. The Fed can maybe speed it up or slow it down a little, but even their tool box is nearly empty.

>>59162790
Honkworld dictates, that the junkie overdoses from the drugs they/them bought after they pawned your silber!
>next time set up a boobytrap
Can you file a claim with or against the storage company? Might have to add negative comments and ratings to these cunts. I’m in

>>59164336
Older coins are only faked when they have numismatic value. Nobody bothers to fake dirt common silver coinage because there is no profit in it unless they make it out of some cheap alloy. Too much work and too easily detected to be worth it.

The only counterfeit risk to a non-numismatic stacker is a coin that has debased or fake content. And that is uncommon and easy to detect.

>>59164329

>>59164282
At least now they'll just be honest about how the economy is doing instead of telling us how great everything is under Biden

>>59164396
This is what I am looking forward to. Honesty in our economists. I am also looking forward to seeing how BRICS moves forward with a Trump administration.

>>59164315
>Try selling a 20 franc Rooster and compare that to selling a 2024 1/4 ounce american gold eagle
coins like roosters or sovereigns are still legal tender, just like gold eagles, and you will have zero problem selling them.

>>59164452
Gold eagles have a much higher liquidity especially in north america

>>59162094
last thread, anon poasted a comment about shemita in regards to current political/monetary era
Neat, haven’t heard about this little nugget of khazarizm…
What if the bountiful harvest is people, as in *500,000,000* ?
I hate these tribal cunts like you wouldn’t believe

>>59164458
>Gold eagles have a much higher liquidity
that does not mean you will have trouble moving roosters or sovereigns at all.

>>59164473
it certainly does. A lot of local coin shops in the USA probably would have zero interest in buying them. Unless significantly under spot

>>59164506
>wont buy gold unless significantly under spot
Sure thing anon. Whatever you got to tell yourself for overpaying for eagles.

>>59164350
I've got to a lot of pawn shops in the area to see if anyone had pawned anything. Nothing yet there but the police are taking their sweet time about it too, trying to get the company to work with me because clearly it wasn't me that accessed the locker at the time it was broken into. I'm honestly thinking of just biting the bullet and paying any duty/tax when I go oversea for work and take it all with me.

>>59164506
I can't speak for all, but my LCS buys everything he can get his hands on and never below spot.

I mean, shop around. I have a hard time thinking they'd be terribly difficult to off-load. If it really is impossible, then get a quote from a nearby refiner.

>>59164506
bullshit. gold is gold

>>59162987
>Humans getting along
Kek
Lol
Lmao
Roflmao even
As much as I would like to see the working class have peace amongst themselves and be able to survive without stress, politics will actively work against that indefinitely and ensure civil unrest. Even I stack and I oppose capitalism. Shit will hit the fans. (Probably)
>>59163004
The entire globe isn't gonna shit itself over rampant retardation in the US. It'll be our own demise. Just take advantage of dips and stack.
>>59163580
Hopefully my wagie lifestyle will suffice during this timeframe but maybe it's time to start playing with short term ponzi to see if I can't yank some cash out to put in PMs. Is it even worth it to invest in long term investments that aren't physical at this point?

>>59162603
I don’t see a commodities general up.
Does anyone here have a broad commodities etf they like?

>>59164644
>The entire globe isn't gonna shit itself over rampant retardation in the US. It'll be our own demise. Just take advantage of dips and stack.
uh it will if the US insists on doing stupid shit in the middle east. have you been paying attention. we're almost in ww3 already

>>59164680
>etfs
gay. go away
commodities general is probably dead cuz they stink

>>59164459
That was me. I had actually forgotten until a /bant/ /smg/ger brought it up. These bastard offspring if canaanites and khazars are a genuine plague.
>>59164527
I suspect he's the same chimp that shows up every once in a while to shill only overpriced government bullion and talks about pm's like they're a long term stock.
>>59164680
You are in fact gay, says so in my chart here. But the only /cmmg/ threads left are on /bant/ and they're dying too. Try bants /smg/ thread.

>>59164315
>There is no benefit to buying the older coins
absolute bullshit. not only do they have the spot value plus premium, they also have numismatic value. they are just as easy, if not easier to liquidate than bullion because you are in two markets: those autistic collectors AND pm investors.
>>59164280
>Whats the benefit of these older coins? Are they cheaper oz?
yes, some guys here buy the 500 fineness below spot regularly, I see them for sale at that price but I only buy 900 and above but have found many of even those at or below spot, plundered some reichsmarks recently at about 10% premium, which is good considering tax here is 20%.
>>59164336
>simplistic designs
maybe for your yank coins you scurvy dog, but have you seen a 5 reichsmark coin? or a florin or half crown?

>>59162603
Remember to sell everything because da joos are starting to dump their paper silver and gold to attack Trumps coin sales

>>59164644
>it's time
you mean you're not funnelling fiat and crypto profits into pm's already?
>Is it even worth it to invest in long term investments that aren't physical at this point?
definitely some but I couldn't say what at the moment.

Guten Abend

>>59164839
By the gods, that's the shiniest 5 reichsmark I've ever laid eyes on, did you use an ultrasonic cleaner on it?

>>59164839
am i spying a quality big eagle?

>>59164847
no those coins are ubiquitous, some are still in pristine condition.

>>59164839
>Guten Morgen.
>Was ist los in der Untethose?
I miss being a dumb american in germany.

Nice collection too, deutsch bro.

>>59164858
what? I'm asking how you got such a shiny reichsmark, I know they are common, but the ones I see are always marked by a suitable patina for their age.

>>59164847
When I take your ship, as the captain you will be hanged and quartered, and your crew will be raped.

>>59164889
pathetic land lubber, copin' fer yer lack o' knowledge about the old booty! any foot you set upon on her will be swift detached and ye'll not leave without finding you're in need o' a peg leg and an eye patch!

>>59164229
I've bought from those Jews
Back when they were on eBay and not Walmart
No problems, quick shipping
But they use FedEx and FedEx are dumb cunts in my area
So I'll only buy from sellers that use ups and *gasp* usps

>>59164527
You're absolutely correct
Eagles are always the answer
Poorfags will reee at you for paying $20 more on a $2800~ oz that will recover once you sell

>>59164924
that young man would be an ideal guardian

>>59164829
Think I started visiting the not gay /smg/ threads too late to start gambling my green shit tickets to have more for stacking. Now I just lurk those threads to have a better idea on whats going in finance.
The price drops are well timed tho, I'm almost my halfway point for pure rounds. Then I plan on switching to fractionals before finishing off with either rounds or kilos, I'll decide when I get there.
>>59164889
Confirmed for pox-riddled butt pirate.
>>59164940
The conversation was specifically silver, old fractionals at that, not gold. Naturally if you're buying gold you shouldn't quibble over a few tenners and get whats best for you're region. Personally I still think eagles are retarded since their gold content isn't even .95

Whats your thoughts on the engraving? I am getting better; juet need to perfectly center and i am in!

>>59164924
FedEx are dumb everywhere, I've always had problems with them, UPS are perfect there, and you can choose a relay pick up, never had any problems with them.

>>59165128
Pic related

>>59164889
>When I take your ship
Nah, you won't just walk the plank. You'll probably try to deap throat it when you get to the end.

>>59165137
Can we get a better pic? Looks good so far.

>>59165149

>>59165024
Anon that's not a man. Its the unholy offspring of homo-erectus

>>59165161
There it is! Looks great fren. Keep up the good work. I'm liking the progress.

>>59165161
Ngl i secretly thought it looked like shit before, turns out you were just taking blurry pics of it the whole time. Looks good tho.

>>59165161
My only critique is that it's not centered, but have zero hands on experience w/ laser engraving so what do I know.
My opinion (not advice) is you could get some clearly marked 999 1 Troy ounce silver rounds with nice surfaces for your work. Then engrave them, sell them. It could be lucrative. Buy an ad, whatever. It looks great aside from it not being centered.

lately gold threads are low energy, why is that?
price of gold so high the plebs cant participate anymore?

>>59165283
>Price too high for seasoned atackers
>Price high enough for normoid FOMO
That makes sense, but there have also been fewer bots and DC shills to argue with, it seems.

>>59165283
I checked out at about 2300? It's pretty expensive and I've been waiting for a correction.
Perhaps I should have picked up some things yesterday

>>59165283
i don't buy gold anymore, but i got 15oz i bought around 1600-2000

these days i just buy silver. it's soooo fuckin cheap.

>>59165429
You made a lot of money if you bought around 1600-2000 since now its at 2600. I want to buy some silver or gold at these prices. IDK what to buy if i already have around 40 oz of silver.

>>59165439
Actually you did not. If you expect to make money with pms you need to trade pm stocks or options. Physicaly pms basically keep up with inflation. Pms are not to make money they are for preserving wealth.

>>59165459
So buying at 1600 and today its at 2600, is not making money if it went up? Also what should i buy if i have silver in eagles maples and phillharmonics? Im thinking 1oz bars or maybe 1oz coins in brits, pandas, krugs, kolas or other mints.

>>59165474
Due to inflation no. 2600 will buy you around what 1600 used too.

>>59165484
So is that basically the same for silver if the silver price isnt that much higher than it was in the past couple years, or even 12 years ago? What should i buy recommend me something?

>>59165474
>>59165484 This anon is correct.

>>59165488
No silver is under valued. It has the greatest chance to increase. Silver is also more volatile than gold so it has bigger swings. I'm more of a gold bug but silver should run more. If silver were to keep up with gold based on history it would be over 50 an ounce.

>>59165488
just buy whatever is most physically exciting to you for the lowest premium you can get it.
that's what everybody else does... unless you're one of those MFs that has 100s of thousands of dollars worth of silver stacked in industrial sized bars

>>59165488
>>59165509
This anon is right, buy what you like. Silver is under priced but that doesn't mean gold can't run like crazy. I try and buy pms with limited mintage. In my mind the rarer something is the more valuable it is. If that turns out to be true who knows. I used to load up on silver but got bored and switched to gold. To each his own.

>>59165474
Listen to the other anonymous they are correct, I'd only add that if you continue with silver do so in coins or rounds, depending on how much you plan to stack to or past Conquistador tier id say go to 100 oz of gubmint coins of your picking. After that I'd suggest stacking for weight from private mints that are easily recognizable or have security features (cost a bit more than generics tho) and after you have enough of those stack by weight alone. Thats what I'm doing. You're choice on hounding unique coins that might end up with good numismatic value later, personally I'm not too concerned with that, only oz I have in that category is a norse mythology round that I probably won't ever sell even in a setf scenario.

>>59165551
>anonymous
Its what I get for phone posting
brb gonna go kms

>>59165559
>brb gonna go kms
how'd that go?

>>59165484
>>59165498
but it's literally not correct. inflation can be measured and it does not account for the entirety of the increase from 1600 to 2600.

>>59165592
Turns out this was already hell

>>59165629
I could have saved you the trouble fren

>>59165653
I had my suspicions

>Bitcoin: new all-time highs thanks to Trump's victory
>Silver: dropped 6% because Trump is going to fix the economy
lel

I'm up $70,000 since Tuesday morning, unlike you sad bitches.

>>59165697
>he thinks economy will be fixed
I hedge BTC, gold and silver, and you're a moron if you think Trump will do anything but spend into the next liquidity crisis. Look at the reverse repo and the rising 10 year bond yields. We're practically there. Strap in, because 2025 is going to be brutal.

>>59165697
I don't see it

>>59165705
Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that the economy is in for some serious shit.

BTW, the House of Representatives is the bunch who (engage in un)control(led) spending. "All budget bills must originate in the House." -- Constitution 101.

I can even show you the Doomsday Clock. Once that line hits zero again, you're gonna see some serious shit.

>>59165697
>I'm up $70,000
so you sold? If not you aren't up shit

>>59165738
Mighty strange coming in a pm thread writing dubious words about paper wealth. Not impressed. Show me real wealth if you want to tickle my neurons

>>59165738
I'd rather hold the BTC than the paper. Deflationary asset vs inflationary asset. Also I can buy PMs with BTC at some dealers too and just skip the dollar garbage transactions.

>>59165756
How's the weather in Langley?

Is is wrong that l voted for Kamala purely because l just want this fucking clown world to end sooner rather than later?

>>59165726
>Once that line hits zero again
So all of 2020 was a shitshow? GFC

>>59165895
There was a liquidity crisis in late 2019 already, but the coofcoof gave the fed and congress an excuse to shoot trillion$ up America's ass. Then in 2021, inflation predictably ran out of control, so the fed started offering banks special rates for holding money in the reverse repo. This was to drain loose money out of the economy and help cool down inflation, which it did. Then when the fed raised rates, banks started taking money out of the reverse repo again and using it to buy bonds. Bonds fund the treasury, which gives the US ability to keep spending. And for the last 2 years, that money in the reverse repo is what's been letting the US spend without creating new money. Guess what happens when it's empty.

Rafi Farber is really good to follow about that whole shitshow. He lovingly calls it the "Repocalypse."

>>59165356
The people who were waiting for gold to go back down to 1800 are still waiting

>>59165697
Hes just giving you guys an opportunity to buy the dip before the money printer spins up again

>>59165697
>$70,000 up
>bitcoin
lol whats bitcoin made of? hot air?

>>59165890
neither candidate was interested in fixing the issues that actually matter for the young adults of today so it really doesn't matter in the long run who you vote for.

missed out on a big set of sterling that went for around $350 (didn't research it until it was closing because it "looked like plate") oops

>>59165356
>>59165953
my assumption is if gold corrects at some point it'll perhaps bottom at 2500, or a bit higher.

>>59165928
More inflation?

>>59165958
It's made of the ability to transfer value around the entire planet nearly instantaneously and without any gatekeepers.

It feels so bad buying metals at this price bros. I don't know if I can do it.

Coinstar find today

>>59166011
>without any gatekeepers
thats where ur wrong bucko

>>59166031
noice

>>59165890
nah, i did too

>>59165697
>he thinks i don't diversify my treasure chest
mate, I was buyin' bitcoin in Nov '22, go look that up on a chart and weep.
and you don't seem to understand matey, that's a good thing: we buy the dips, that way we get more for our money, then, we plunder the cheapies, and get even more for our money. Incase you haven't noticed this means things are playing out exactly as I predicted. (sea above).
Hold fast me hearties, cheapies be coming!

>>59166030
None of the stock niggers say that at DOW 44,000

>>59166030
Hold fast shipmate, sea's about to get rough! a nice big dip is coming, I'm not buying anything but the cheapest of plunder for this next two months. Mark my words.

>>59166011
>without any gatekeepers
>bro doesn't even know that the miners decide who is allowed to transact because they literally write the transactions into the next block
double digit iq

Slowly losing my mind...

>>59166031
Lucky...

>>59166031
Good stuff I haven't found anything lately I think too many people know now

>>59166030
>It feels so bad buying metals at this price bros. I don't know if I can do it.
Imagine how it feels for the people who bough gold at $1000 four years ago.

>>59164428
They won't be honest about why it's happening though. They'll tell the truth about what's going on but say it's because Trump deported illegals so that tanked the economy.

>>59166438

The same economists that said Trump would tank the stock market in 2016 are saying he'll tank the entire economy now.

I'm an economist and these people are full of shit.

Whether we have a recession next year or not has very little to do with Trump or Biden.

In any case, if we at least get some deportations, reinstate remain in Mexico and broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. That's already a win over Kamala Harris.

>>59166456
trump is more likely to do an amnesty than deport anyone lol

>>59164022
>Does Trump's win mean anything for us?
See>>59164043
Even the sourest of sour shitheads agree that Trump has bought us some time. The day that Trump cannot single handedly keep confidence in the market anymore is the day that it will crash. It will be harder for him as his term goes on as the opps will try to destroy everything he does but he doesn't even waltz into the White House until Janurary 20th.
I can promise you that Trump is basically the main reason we aren't already in great depression 2.0.
>>59164063
This anon knows what he's talking about. The turbo autists here know that financial collapse has been baked into the cake over the past couple of years. Monster money also knows this but wants to milk the system as long as possible and therefore will also pretend that financial collapse hasn't been baked into the cake. Everybody below the turbo autists and monster money genuinely or rather as the zoomers say deadass believe that everything will just get better without any hiccups or growing pains. Let them believe that so that way we can still slurp.

>>59166493

Ya, and with Kamala is was guaranteed.

>>59166227
And the world is full of hundreds of thousands of individual miners, any of whom can choose to join with a pool or leave a pool at any instant. "Pools" aren't monolithic entities, they are collections of disparate companies and individuals, most of whose primary motivation is profitability. There is no coordination to control which transactions are disallowed -- MARA and a couple of others made some noises about that back in 2021-2022 and got SLAMMED for it and then they shut the fuck up about the possibility.

That's what a "51% attack" is all about, controlling transactions and rejecting some to prevent them from ever confirming. And it basically cannot happen because no single entity controls more than a few percent of the mining.

Back in 2022 the Biden admin was pushing for sanctions on transactions from Russia, and multiple major figures told them "Bitcoin is neutral and will remain that way even when the other side asks us to ban you too."

But please feel free to burble on about "but Chyna controls a third of the mining!" and "but muh State Department Blacklist!" and whatever other stupid shit you don't understand that doesn't actually mean anything.

I stack BTC too but I still consider it a layer below gold and silver. BTC is still an experiment, but gold and silver have the legacy of thousands of years of proven use. I don't care how sound the math is, it's still not infallible. But compared to the dollar, it's relatively sound.

>>59166544
not buying ur bags of nothing

>>59166544
Try making a bitcoin transaction, wallet to wallet, without paypigging up.
You literally cant, because you will be outbid by someone else who is willing to pay to have their transactions in the next block.
What happens once all the BTC is mined and there is no motivation for people to continue finding blocks except supporting transactions?
I'll let you figure that one out.

>>59166577
BTC is like 100 years away from being all mined and probably won't even be relevant at that point anymore.

All the gold and silver I stacked will still be around out there somewhere though giving someone else utility, and that's pretty awesome to know.

>>59166603
It's more like 10-15 years.
No I won't elaborate.
Screen cap this.

will silver go down now that trump won? whats the forecast?

>>59166930
see
>>59163580
>There will be an initial rally
(already happened)
>but then a big dip,
(already happening)
>and a lot of downward trending crabbing.
(over the next 6 months to a year.)
see this hook, laddie? that's the shape o' the charts to come for the next 2 months.

>>59166603
>the future of finance
>might last 100 years tops but probably less
Kek

>>59166031
>digging thru coinstar machines all day like its 1995
Hehe. I sat at home looking at google maps and made about $400.

>>59166502
>Everybody below the turbo autists and monster money genuinely or rather as the zoomers say deadass believe that everything will just get better without any hiccups or growing pains. Let them believe that so that way we can still slurp.
Deadass be tryna explain this shit to people, and they just don't get it. I be like "shit don't be bussin, the economy is sussy" and they always say fr fr, but I know them understanding is just cap. You feel me.

>>59167174
Deadass is a millennial term.

>>59162603
this shit is going to zero, lol

>>59167178
I'm early gen z and I don't have any social media, I I've no idea what young kids are even saying anymore. Like why do they say sigma, what is rizz, and why do they keep saying good morning in japanese? I'm so confused, I feel old, should I start yelling at the sky now?

>>59167182
I…I know what rizz is! That’s how smooth they are with the opposite sex. If they say how’s your rizz they just mean how’s your game.

I have no idea why they say good morning in Japanese and now I’m angry and yelling at the sky.

>>59166274
why

Def not the deal of the century i just got, but it's been almost a week and i *needed* to slurp something, anything. I feel like a rock junkie sometimes (all the time).

and she's off today lmao lol

>>59167459
Who?

>>59167470
the cry baby

>>59167477
Which one?

>>59167143
how?

>>59167503
it’s called a part time job you smelly pirate hooker

>I tell him to go to to doctor and get his leg checked.
He won't listen.

>I tell him to go to the optometrist.
He has cataracts.
He won't get the surgery.

>I tell him to go to the dentist.
He won't go.
He hasn't been to a dentist in 40 years.

He has insurance and he still won't do it.

>I tell him to quit drinking and smoking.
He quits smoking for 6 months, then goes right back to smoking 2 packs a day.
He gets drunk 3 times a week.

>I tell him to get a colonoscopy
He's never had one in 60 years.

He called and left a message on my phone, telling me his leg was messed up.
I asked him if he needed me to take him to the hospital.
No reply...

after war ends in january gold goes back to $2500, that will be the time to buy again

>>59167787
war isn't ending dude
trump isn't jesus, he's not solving all the world's problems

>>59167787
The war in Ukraine will end but this won't stop Iran attacking Israel or China planning to invade Taiwan.

>>59167748
based, what an absolute pirate.
must be like 60? 70? probably knows it's not worth it.
>He called and left a message on my phone, telling me his leg was messed up.
I see cap'n shuffle shanks will be changing his name to cap'n peg leg before long, no doubt. call him up though, seriously, you don't want gangrene to set in.

>>59167966

It's his life choice. Just kind of sad it's my own father.

>>59162603
How can someone not get scammed trying to buy gold coins?

>>59168067
buy from the bullion dealers listed in the OP

>>59168067
Buy from a reputable coin shop in your area, or a reputable dealer online (APMEX, Monument Metals, SD Bullion, JM Bullion, etc)

Learn how to test coins yourself (acid test, ping test, specific gravity test, electronic metal tester, etc)

Stay away from graded / slabbed coins, and buy mass production coins instead. The graded coins are massive markups and are for "collectors" not stackers.

Coins are WAY easier to test than bars as well. Their uniformity and shape gives them properties hard to fake. The most common fraud is tungsten inside, and these will fail the ping test. Use a pocket pinger to ping the coin for the gold sound, there's apps out there that can record the ping and tell you if it's fake. A tungsten filled coin would just thud.

Tungsten is used to fake out gold because it has the same mass as gold. It can fool the scale, but it can't fool frequencies when pinged.

If you're a beginner, buy the type of coins most common to your country. US - Gold Eagles, Canada - Maple Leaf, etc.

>>59168099
>same mass as gold.
density

This doesn't reverse because of an election

>>59167966
Btw, are there any satisfacts to snack up your prediction of the price dropping for the next two months? I dont it will, just curious.

>>59168143
It could reverse the last few years
And given we keep election red we can make our way back up to the point where deflation hurts people and The government has to step in and change mortgage and loan amounts to reflect the deflation happening

>>59168104
>If you're a beginner, buy the type of coins most common to your country. US - Gold Eagles, Canada - Maple Leaf, etc.
>>59164315
>Only buy 1 ounce maples
They're pretty expensive. Is it a bad idea to buy fractional Maples? The Mint sells them directly and while they're high premium, I can afford to purchase them once per month. I'm talking about the 1/10 oz. What are your thoughts on these?

My only dislike, besides the higher premium, is that the radial lines don't really look aesthetically pleasant on such a small coin. Is it just me?

>>59168237
I have a gold maple dime, and it's fine. You almost can't even see the lines, they're so tiny.

How much more do we have to correct. I miss mooning everyday.

>>59168333
Checked. Expect crabbing from $30-$34 for a while with a drop down to $25 sometime around March.

>>59168275
>>59168237
How can you test gold for beginners? I understand that 1 oz maples come with anti-counterfeit measures that you can verify for yourself, but fractional maples don't have it.

>>59168346
A ping test is free, but they make special ping testers that are under $20. Your local coin or pawn shop might have a Sigma Metalytics that you can borrow for free if you're not a faggot.

>>59167930
China isn't going to invade Taiwan. Taiwan has nukes and will use them in response to an existential threat. China might embargo. But invade? Never happen.

>>59168095
And by "common" you mean almost never actually happening, right?

>>59168383
The juice isn't worth the squeeze the smaller you go. It's most common with mid to larger size bars.

>>59168377
>China isn't going to invade Taiwan
China is going to invade within the next decade. It needs to otherwise it will miss its best window of opportunity.

>>59168207
pattern recognition, this is the pattern I have observed after the last two american elections; little peak right afterwards, then a dip, some crabbing with a downward trend, and within 2 months to 6 months it is down by 10 to 20%. What with gold being so fucking high right now, we are due for a dip, however there's many other factors to consider, like the weimarness of the situation.
You have to remember, if pm's spike it's usually got a lot more to do with your fiat money losing value than them gaining value. That may counteract the usual dip, but I am only plundering the most underpriced treasure for the next two months. Time will tell.

>>59168445
>I am only plundering the most underpriced treasure for the next two months
Stay tuned for pics from my silver slurp of the year. Pickup is tomorrow.

>>59168026
commiserations shipmate. I think you should try once more, perhaps even just drive over ready to take him the hospital.

>>59168459
i am intrigued

>>59168095
tungsten is only ever used to fake big bars... nobody is slipping tungsten into 1oz coins lol.

>>59168445
Makes sense, I hadn't started stacking until these last couple years so I hadn't really noticed the price trends for elections. I'll probably just keep stacking on a bi-weekly/monthly basis, tortoise mentality and all that.

>>59168359
And a ping test is sufficient??

>>59168625
I use ping test + magnet test. If it passes both chances of it being real are like 99.99%. If you wanted to be hyper paranoid you could weigh the coin too, they all have specific weights.

what do we think

>>59168950
That kangaroo looks juicy.

>>59168950
meh

>buy mixed dimes
>all troonsevelt

>>59168950
better than a fucking leaf

>>59169005
Oops, All Traitors!

>>59169005
faggot on the front AND the back

>>59168950

>>59168950
A furry made that design.

>>59164318
>thinking 1913 was 50 years ago

just overspent some money on this 4oz silver bar. gonna give it to my mom this christmas. she's a fan

>>59169005
This is why I pay the few cents extra for the mercs specifically

>>59168095
Very good point. I'm thinking of gold specifically, but coins just work better in almost every way. As tempting as it is to fantasize about a kilo of gold, it's a bigger risk in almost every way.

Harder to exchange because shops are more wary and not many are gonna have $85,000 in cash on hand. Then if you deposit that amount of cash in a bank, the bank will have to report it to the (((IRS))).

Bigger risk of theft, putting all your eggs in one basket. If SHTF there's not much you can exchange it for that will be worth equivalent value, so you might have to chop it up. No one is gonna trust it either - they'll think its brass unless proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

All that being said though... I still salivate over the idea of owning a kilo bar of gold lol. For now I'll just keep stacking 1ozt American Buffalos.

>>59168950
Ugly, as always wth Perth kangoos

>>59169134
Keeps em cheap I guess

>>59169134
2021 was fine

>>59169203
Do you guys remove them from the transparent package? I want to hold them so badly but I think once I break the seal it can't be enclosed in it?

>>59169238
You should definitely not touch them, marks and scratches will never disappear.
That's why I don't like these coins.

>>59169203
2022 was good too. 2023 was alright i guess. i like 2024. this one is meh kinda.

>>59169203
*this being 2025

>>59169246
how do you perform ping tests and other tests lol

>>59169265
No need when buying from professionals....

>>59169265
he's an autist. you can take them out of the capsule and touch them if you want. typically you should only hold coins by the rim, so you don't get any skin oil on the face, which will leave an insightly fingerprint. but at the end of the day, these are bullion coins, and such superficial stuff doesn't actually affect value

one that you can actually take out! i wish they were all like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYnJS_375uA

Found some local rounds with only a 15% premium. Feels good

>>59169238
>Do you guys remove them from the transparent package?
If they're not sealed, yes.
If possible I take pictures of them naked.

>>59168333
Checked. Correction over, mooning continues next week.

>>59169428
sexy elephant

>>59169276
the tungsten filled bar that was purchased in Canada was from a bank!
>>59169329
does the advice still stand for low mintage stuff?

>>59169126
mers are great, luv em
but you really shouldnt be buying them
theyre worn down and weigh less

>>59168104
eagles are always the answer
https://youtu.be/ek5Lks0X6S4?t=38
many such cases

>>59169533
Amerimutts boomers are retards clinging to an outdated sense of national pride, nothing new here. Better deals for the smart guys, that's a good thing.

>>59169567
its not a deal if you get less when you sell, and if they buy it at all

>>59168950
erm, excuse me, I thought this was supposed to be a blue board?

>>59169507
no, if it's a collector's item then you should never take it out of its protective casing.

>>59169533
who doesn't trust a krug? saw one for sale in the pawn shop today and it was not only a high premium but I am expecting a dip too.

>>59169582
It's not a deal if your entire demand is comprized of ameriboomutts. Thank god, earth is larger than that and many people around the world would be happy to get those. I'd be pretty happy buying dem phillys/krugs/arks at spot and leave the overpriced AGEs behind without a second thought. Plus lets be honest, the current design look like shit and this weird ass .917 purity is making no sense. Simply put : i wont pay a cent more to acquire AGEs if i've others options availible. In the end i just want more gold for my bux.

$21 spent

3 sterling spoons and a Sanborn hat

>>59162603
I picked up about a year ago a silver-clad tea set marked "EPCA Lancaster Rose by poole 400" and a silver coated tray for $40.00 total from a yard sale. It looks like a good example is valuable but this particular set is tarnished, has some bluish-white inside of the pots and the hinges on the teapots are broken. Is it worth more as an antique or as scrap silver?

>>59168095
What's the smallest coin in oz that you can perform the ping test with?

On a somewhat related note, what does everyone think of Maple Grams? (see pic rel)

Found a 1916 merc in a apmex roll, what do?

>>59169798
>ping testing 24k gold because paranoid
I'll stick with buying from reputable dealers instead of worrying and scuffing up my gold, thx

>>59168095
what brand of pocket pinger do you recommend?

>>59169798
>Maple Grams?
Cute, but high premium. If I ever had transactions in values of single grams of gold, I'd probably be using silver instead.

>>59169789
>silver-clad
If it's clad, it's not worth a melt - it would have value as a tea set. But it's broken, so it's worthless. But the "400" makes me wonder if it's 40% silver? Hard to refine it's also why low silver content coins are undesirable for stacking.

>>59169959
>But the "400" makes me wonder if it's 40% silver?
no

>>59169959
>But the "400" makes me wonder if it's 40% silver?
Not at all. EPCA means Electro Plated Copper alloy. Also called german silver. I think the 400 refers to the parts per thousand of nickel in the german silver alloy, so 40% nickel.
The amount of silver in electroplated stuff is completely negligible, standard plating is usually counted as 12+12 (12 spoons, 12 forks), with numbers usually ranging from 40 to 100 (= grams of silver per complete set). For others pieces a 90 represent 90gr per 0.24 square meter of silver plating. So the "400" doesn't refer to that, it's too high of a number, that's why i think it might be related to the nickel content.

>>59169789
>Is it worth more as an antique or as scrap silver?
There is maybe 2.5oz of scrap total in there, and that's if all the silver plating is still there, which doesn't seems to be the case. Plus it's a pain in the ass to extract and you most likely wont find a refiner interested in it, unless you have enormous quantities of EP stuff to ditch.
It definitely have more value as antique. Give it a GOOD cleaning and it will be shiny once again.
In good condition and cleaned, a set like this could probably net you something like $120. Problem here is the plating is worn down on the platter and the broken handle. Thankfully it's a clear cut and you should be able to fix the handle.

Sold as it is now, you'd probably make your $40 back, maybe 50. But it could double the value if you clean it very nice and fix the handle (maybe some of those new superglues could do the trick?).
Buy some silber polish and come back to us with some before/after pics, it's always nice to look at. :)

>>59169851
https://coinpingtest.com/
Overpriced on its own, but they just released an app that comes with the pinger for free

If you're familiar with the sound of coins, you don't really need the pinger at all, but it's a good starting point. I've been able to find fake Morgan dollars in the wild just by the their higher pitch and pinging it on my finger.

Gold and silver 1 oz coins have such beautiful harmonic resonance, they're like music to my ears when they ring.

what's the best bullion dealer in Canada?

>>59170035
Yes, most fakes ping much higher and resonate for a much shorter amount of time than silver. It's really easy to tell with some experience. But for tiny coins (dime sized and below) or deformed ones (like bent coins), the sound can go full bonk. That's when a precision caliper comes handy (but that's if you can find the full dimensions of the coins online, sometimes that's tricky for uncommon ones)!

What ratios of gold:silver should one hold? Reading this here https://buygoldandsilversafely.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2018-Buy-Gold-and-Silver-Safely-book.pdf and author suggets 75% of value in gold, and 25% in silver. Does this make sense?

>>59169072
That's not overspending at all for what you're doing.
I deadass wonder who would be willing to trade what for a 4oz solid silver benjamin. If a merc dime buys a bj then in the post apocalypse I would imagine that would buy you one sex slave.

>>59170148
Ben keeps looking worse as time goes on.

>>59170159
oh god

>>59170159
Sheeeeeeitt

>>59170051
good morning SAAAAR

>>59170159
Wowee. I still imagine that somebody would sell their ass for a long time for that. Lmao.

>>59170292
>somebody would sell their ass for a long time for that. Lmao.
you guys are stupid.

>>59167181
It is impossible for physical materials to be worth zero.
Especially silver, since it is an industrial metal now, moreso even than just being a coinage metal.

>>59170127
>Does this make sense?
no.
hold way more silver. like 20 silver to 1 gold, min, even steeper ratio is better imho.
gold is overvalued, silver is undervalued, if you want to make money buy silver, if you want to lose money, buy gold
t. bought a little gold recently
>but why?
regardless of what you buy fiat is losing value faster. and pm's keep it out of the hands of bankers, rich people, immoral arseholes, people with big noses, you know the types.

>>59170397
There’s only like 3 or 4 boomers here all day every day which is why you always see the exact same talking points here:
>paper to silver ratio is surprising to them for the billionth time
>”is this fake? Everything is fake.”
>slurping = wasting all day weeding thru fakes on eBay just to maybe come out ahead a few $ worth of sterling a few weeks later.
>blogging boomer starts writing ChatGPT-tier responses about where gold and silver come from when someone just asks about a merc dime.
>pirate anon having an identity crisis because /pmg/ is his entire life
Honestly there’s no reason to stop by here unless you’re part of their club.

Hey...

>>59170702
>10 pbtid
>none of those have any informational value whatsoever
you are an utterly useless bumping cretin, just leave if you want to make this general a better place lol

>>59170710
>lol
>lol
>lol
kys I wasn’t talking to you

>>59170723
lolilol
luuulz
and i'm talking to you : leave you fucking nigger.

>>59170731
The more you seethe the more I enjoy being here and the longer I will stay. Go slurp some more copper coins from scammers I’m sure new stackers will benefit from that.

>>59170738
Your average post : >>59167178
my average post : >>59170028

You are so fucking worthless it's unreal. 70IQ mongreloid trash.

>>59170744
I’m not here to contribute anymore. There’s no point.

Ultimately, you get what you deserve. Want to gaslight me and tell me I’m Jewish when I try to make the place better for months or years and you’ve proven yourselves to be a den of subhumans.

>>59170754
You've never posted anything worth the time to read, stop larping as a quality poster. You simply can't be a good poster, you don't have the mental capacity to do so. You are a terminal online waste. A mental midget.

>>59170761
Keep seething aimlessly you won’t get anywhere that way frog fag.

>>59169373
Nice shinie gold, but that lizard, jug eared chuckie is on the coin
>bad form m8

>>59170706
>Hey...
"What's wrong with you-o-ooooooo-u"
"You're lookin kinda down on me-e-ee"

https://youtu.be/dgealCjN2_E

>>59170789

Beep boop.

NEW THREAD

>>59170835
>>59170835
>>59170835
>>59170835

>>59170028
Thank you very much. I'll see what I can do about the hinges on the lids. One is intact so I can glue or solder it on maybe. The other is missing the bottom half in addition to being broken off.