/biz/ - Business & Finance

keep on stackin, /pmg/

I'm just here to get ship dates for the pirate coin and promote the next possible one ;)

>>58965864
Make the wheel of cheese and Pepemouse shirt gilded.

>>58965864
I like it

>>58965864
clover on the shirt?

We are close to Valhalla frens.

ded thred
ded boomers
ded demand
ded numismatics

>>58966139

>>58966143
*teleports behind you*
heh, nothin personal kid

>>58965972
>shirt

Good interview about the state of the markets lads, its basically playing out the way we thought it would.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oo6S6SJaVA

>>58966226
A few days after war is declared is the best time to sell.
Gold goes up on the potential of war because its a store of value irrelevant of sovereign backing, which is something that actually matters if a war breaks out, but in a wartime economy governments don't need gold they need cash, this means liquidating assets to buy things, Russia and China aren't buying shitloads of gold to just sit on it, they intend to spend it if war breaks out.
Its really important to understand the difference between the potential of war breaking out and war actually unironically breaking out.

>>58966283
>sell
Who the fuck do you think we are?! We're hard-core, long-hold /pmg/
Not some pussy short sellers for more debt receipts

>>58966283
if they need cash they'll print it, retard

>>58966283
>sell
I simply do not understand.

>>58966357
>print it
I can't wait for hyperdeflation.

How kikes get rich off of people who buy pm:

Kikes own mines in Africa in which the workers are not paid. The pm you are buying is from these mines. Stop supporting the slave trade of metals that are sourced from African mines.

Kikes use African mines with slaves to profit off of people who buy metals. Stop getting ripped off.

If you want precious metals, source them from african Slave mines just like the Kikes do.

>>58966494
just like me krugs, is all

based I want one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruzt4CwUcpk

Where do you anons look for Reichsmarks? I found a semi-consistent supply of real ones and want to cycle through them so they're more available for people, and to add a few more to my collection. I'd prefer to do some form of peer-to-peer to avoid dumb fees.

Unforutnately, it looks like the best place might be reddit's pmsforsale.

>>58966605
There was a guy in this thread selling them on a private site a couple years ago, he was Russian though and site shut down. Those were legit I hope.

>>58966283
>sell

>>58966153
This looks great!

Gotta love real money
>also yes I have copper because why not I like copper
P.s ring is 14k

Any /his/fags in here that can speak to situations in wartorn countries where someone's gold or silver bought them a ticket out? Surely it's prudent to leave prior to a civil war or hot war on one's own soil kicking off. However, I'm curious how valuable they are in a hot zone for civilians.

>>58967054
>Surely it's prudent to leave prior to a civil war or hot war on one's own soil kicking off
Not really. Fighting will happen in the cities primarily. If you’re already in a predominately white and conservative area you’ll be fine.

Where would you flee to outside the U.S.? Mexicans hate gringos and will smile at you while their buddies rob and kill you. Canadians are more cucked than Americans and you won’t be able to have any guns or rights. Plus their overrun by immigrants now.

The only real option is to hold up where you are.

>>58967082
>hol(e) up where you are
>get forcibly conscripted by one side or the other
No thanks.

>>58967119
>scared of recruitment officers
Pussy. Cuck. Bitch. Buy a gun and stop letting others tell you what to do.
Or move to Mexico and see how that works out for you.

>>58967134
>Pussy
>Cuck
>Bitch
Your overly emotional reaction to someone's choice not to fight in but instead flee a conflict which they would likely die in is misplaced. Maybe if the country or soil meant something it would be one thing, but a country that is run by people actively trying to enslave you and destroy your loved ones is not worth dying for. Cope and seethe.

>>58967142
You’re not even reading what I write. Go back and try again faggot. A civil war doesn’t happen everywhere at once for everyone. Read a history book. Chances are high you’re already in a safe area. Chances are low you’ll flee to Mexico and find something safer. Don’t make me repeat myself again.

>>58967148
You suggested people buy a gun in order to prevent being conscripted by a side in a hot civil war scenerio. You effectively suggested going out in a blaze of gunfire like a retard with nothing to lose.

>>58967155
No, you used the words “forcibly conscript”. Ignoring the fact that that’s not a real thing, at least not in this country. What you’re doing is called moving the goalposts. You weren’t happy with my first response so now you’re changing the variables.
You need a gun to protect yourself regardless of what’s going on. I was just saying you’re stupid for not being willing to stand up to a few rogue recruitment officers but you’re considering packing up and moving to a country full of browns who want to kill you.

>>58967188
>forcibly conscript
>not a real thing, at least not in this country
Fucking Boomers. Go lurk a Ukraine war thread and tell me it's not a real thing. You think the US is somehow immune to bullshit kicking off? I'm moving the goalposts? You're the one ignoring the initial, arguably complex, question about the valuability of PMs in a war zone by hand waving it away as a non-topic and instead just suggesting hurr durr guns are all that matters.

>>58967212
>"not in this country"
>goes off about Ukraine
Reading comprehension...
> the initial, arguably complex, question about the valuability of PMs in a war zone
Your question that I directly responded to was about leaving the country. I never even mentioned PMs. This is what I mean by moving the goalposts. You're just looking for a fight here.

Instead of creating a new line of argument yet again, answer a simple question for me: Where do you think you can flee to that's any safer where you have the same rights?

>ath
gm

>>58967230
I can see why you've been labeled projectionfag.

>>58967261
kek the only thing I project is my dick in your mom's pussy kid

>>58967248
Don't buy the top

>>58967276
May all your gold be tungsten projectionfag.

>>58967356
good advice for stocks and crypto
but for gold? it don't matta

>>58966283
Look into the "Unit" for BRICS. The gold they are purchasing will never leave their countries, especially in wartime.

>>58967366
just think about how absurd that is
>ok guys, war has started. let's sell this gold for cash, quick! we people to carry all this gold out on pallets and exchange them for bits of paper! this is priority number 1!

>>58967363
Here, I'll give you the response that you were wanting:
>"YES anon you'll be able to flee the country with your gold and silver when the cannons and cavalry start amassing in your backyard like in the movie The Patriot. It'll be crucial to your survival. You should just start packing now and head toward Tijuana. Jose at the border will be expecting you and your 3 mercury dime payment."

>>58967364
>it don't matta
Broadly speaking, I agree with your sentiment, but you get more by buying $2,000 gold than $2,500 gold.
I remember $1,700 being high just a few years ago.
It's an election year and the media and fear are at all time highs too.
Gold mooned from $1,500 to $2,000 and then again to $2,500.
Wise money would be wait and see if things are going to calm down like 2012 from the graph.

>>58967379
oh you're that "the presidential election really matters" fag. lol

>>58967379
We weren't 36 trillion and 122% to gdp in debt then. They just turned the money printers on back then.

>>58967377
>slush metal tier arguments from projectionfag
I specifically asked for historical evidence and accounts of PMs being useful or not useful.

>>58966494
don't care I'm gonna stack

>>58967383
>"the presidential election really matters"
The elections don't matter. It's more so recognizing the media and scam artists work everyone into insanity. Much like the Super Bowl.
The Super Bowl doesn't matter. The hype makes people pay retarded prices to get excited to see some dudes dance around in tights and slap asses.
>>58967388
What has changed? Go check out the commodities at
>fred.stlouisfed org/categories/32217
There was a bubble due to events stemming from The Great Cold of 2020.
DXY is above 100.
All the other nations are in debt above their eyes just like us.

>>58967390
>insert news article of Venezuelans paying for stuff with gold flakes
Funkopop faggot

>>58967356
anyone in this thread already bought a long time ago copetain

>>58965864
i don't like this design very much. :(

>>58967454
blasphemer

>>58966582
i hope someone has the gold up for sale soon. this looks good

>>58965782
Always here people talking about Mercs over Roosevelt dimes but never about the quarters or halfs. What do you guys think, I was thinking of swaping my Washington quarters for Standing Liberty's because they look better and are always silver but they are harder to find and in way worse shape.

>>58967533
washington quarters are good. no reason to swap em. just buy some liberties too.

>>58967405
Dxy is in a bear market now
We have about 7-8 years of stagflation, then a currency crisis and hyperinflation

>>58966952
>copper
are you some kind of memecoiner of physical world

>>58967551
sounds about right

>>58967054
Hope no one will post for the billionth time the bosnian survival larp made by a texan kek.
Ofc it happened countless times through history, but it would be interesting to read about recent iterations, in a full fiatbux world, rather than when G&S were de facto money.

I remember there were many accounts of such situations from viets fleeing the war and cambodians fleeing the Pol Pot's "communist revolution" you can read online. A gold bracelet could get you a plane ticket far from the misery. You'd have to start once again from scratches, but alive. But even if it occured while the world already adopted (((fiat money))), it's a bit outdated.

More recently, i remember reading about occurences from Syria, Lebanon and Libya. But those are nations where finding alternatives solutions to get by are the norm, and it may not apply in our situations, where we can consider ourselves entangled in "formely known 1st world nations", with top class civilians' tracking & bureaucracy and everything else falling apart. At least in arab nations, it's easy to "oil up the machinery" by greasing some paws for cheap (they even have a word for this institutionalized corruption : the baksheesh), but over here corruption is mostly availible for the richfags. Poorfags can't enjoy it, partly because everything is informatized and automatically triple checked via centralized databases. And partly because our officials are well fed by the government and don't need any extras.

Anyway this is a very interesting question, one we may have to figure out the answer by ourselves, the hard way. It would be funny to try to larp differents scenarii, with differents budgets and goals to achieve. All i'm sure of, is it's quite easy for a brown to seek refuge in western nations. But the other way around is vastly different.
How many shitholes do anons believe will accept whites if we are the ones fleeing war-torn nations?

>>58966283
>after the war starts you sell hard assets for fiat that will be printed into oblivion, also if you are lucky and live in the losing side country it will actually be worth 0, for me for more smart advices

>>58966952
I hope to god you didn't pay for post 1964 half dollars

Over $1000 for a 1/4 ounce because of the date.

I remember the first ounce of gold I bought was £600, wild

>>58967533
>Standing Libs
>immediately identifiable
>generally worn down
>kino design

>Washingtons
>Less worn, slightly more silver
>not immediately discernable from modern debased quarters
>lower premiums

It's a tradeoff. Just stack what's a good deal. I slurped a ton of washingtons for 12x face at an auction back in 21'. Slurp standing libs when I see them for a good deal. It really doesn't matter. Just buy low and sell high.

>>58967630
Thanks for the well thought out response. I sincerely appreciate your perspective. Do you have any specific references, apart from the bosnia image macro, from those using PMs in those situations?

>How many shitholes do anons believe will accept whites if we are the ones fleeing war-torn nations?
If it ever reached that point, I would suspect the natural dynamic of the global situation would dictate some shitholes better than others iykwim. I don't think Europe will ever truly fall. It may ebb and flow, but it's ultimately White soil. Parts of America otoh are a different story. It's vast enough that a multitude of places could act as a refuge for those fleeing conflict. Like Argentina for the Germans at the end of WW2.

>>58967379
>just like 2012
in 2012 the dollar menu existed. what year do you think it is?

>Gold reached its 8 all time high this year
Im just so tired of it all
At first i was happy because i had a decent ammount of it saved but now its just ridcoulous
I cant even afford fractionals at this point
Will it ever realistcyl sink because right now its just absurd to buy

>>58967779
only time will tell, I would live to stack gold but 270 for 1/10 of an ounce seems ridiculous when I could get 9 ounce silver

>>58967779
gold isn't absurd to buy
stocks, crypto, and real estate are absurd to buy
but not gold

>>58967722
Yeah Thats what I think too, just have what I can get mostly, except dimes, I only have about 5 face of Rossies but about 60 face in Mercs. Started getting Morgans too but think im going to go with peace dollers from now on due to them being cheaper

>>58967722
>not immediately discernable from modern debased quarters
all you have to do is look at the date... i know people are stupid but i think the masses can handle that

>>58967833
im just a trainee Anon i dont even get paid minimum wage

>>58967838
melt that shit down and produce 1 ounce rounds of finesilver

>>58967838
>i think the masses can handle that
*laughs in wife who took your rolls of old Washington quarters to the bank*

>>58967838
Looking at the side is even easier unless your eyesight is awful, but I imagine you'd have trouble reading worn dates as well at that point.

>>58967630
>bosnian survival larp made by a texan
Selco, right? When was it discovered he was a fraud? I bought his $20 guide and immediately put it on The Pirate Bay, uploaded it at least 50 times and I'm sure other seeded it as well. I always felt a small amount of guilt, but now I feel like a did a good thing lol.
>>58967935
>eyesight is awful
My near sight is good and far sight is corrected easily to 20/20 with glasses (I want to get Lasik eventually). But in low light I accidentally read 1943 on a '48 nickel once in low light is all.

>>58967562
I truly believe that copper will skyrocket especially with the switch to renewable energy I’m one of the biggest believers in copper and I get it all for free from scrapping

https://www.ngccoin.com/account/my-submissions/

can you spam the world submission form link for a bit. i'd like 2925555

>>58967987
you can get a small smelter off aliexpress for about $120 and melt that copper down into ingots, I have a few kilos of copper just from robbing copper from appliances that break down. If you can find cheap sterling silverware sets they melt down nicely into ingots as well.

>$2600 gold
>stable $30+ silver
Silver should actually be more at like $50 right now.

>>58968076
yup

>>58968076
You’re getting ripped off buying metals unless you’re sourcing them directly from African slave mines

B2Bizness, bros

>>58968140
>muh nigger slave mines
this isn't 1750, slaves are no longer mining equipment

>>58967454
How about this? It's a personal favorite of the choices. Didn't make any of them but they're fun.

>>58967922
checked and I would straight up murder a bitch for touching that shit

>>58968140
stop posting in every PM thread about muh african slave mines

>1 in 3 chance I'll be losing my job in a few months
>I'll know for certain in a few weeks
It's been fun stacking PMs but now I'll have to stack all the cash I can get my hands on and keep it for mortgage and bill payments if I do get laid off. I'm running under the assumption that I will, and honestly I'm kind of excited to see what on the horizon.
I'm happy with my existing stack. I'll at least take more time to post more and new OC pics of my existing numismatics, no new purchases for at least a few months.
Who knows, maybe I'll get a better paying job at the end of all this? I'm kind of excited :)

>>58968441
it's ok mate. sometimes u gotta amass fiat to pay the bills, it is what it is. makes me grateful for every dollar converted to precious metal

>>58968428
this, the mouse, and the other one you were doing

>>58968441
Way to keep a positive attitude buddy. Good luck

There’s literally no point in buying precious metals unless you’re sourcing them directly from African slave mines

This is literally how Elon musk‘s father got rich

>>58968428
everyone loves that one but the powers that be will never allow its creation.

>>58968455
ok buddy, that's good information thanks for telling us, why don't you go play some minecraft while your mom makes some chicken nuggets

My favorite is when people who almost certainly don't have any long term food storage tell you "you can't eat gold or silver"

>>58968490
wtf where did you get those?!

>>58968493
The website is right on the package

>>58968448
>every dollar converted to precious metal
Yeah my long term financial future is so bright I'll need a welders mask because sunglasses won't cut it. The short term uncertainty isn't that bad either because:
>>58968451
>positive attitude
Not my first rodeo haha. I got laid off in 2018 from another job I thought I would retire from. I thought the same with this place as well. If they want me I'll stay, but even if I get canned and unemployment runs out, I'll get a factory job w/ my friends on 3rd shift and at least still maintain a social life while looking for a job in my field.

>>58968450
>>58968456
I wish I were making rounds of any kind b/c it would definitely happen (would find a way). too bad holoanon or mintanon can't make it happen

>>58968490
Holeeee fauckkkkk! That's thee best novelty silver I've ever seen rofl

>>58968490
hey, I have a few of these and they're fun. Their site has a lot of cool stuff.

>>58968441
Just wait until October bro.
https://tass.com/economy/1839865

>>58967082
japan or south korea wouldn't be that bad of an option for the short term, and they did accept ukrainian asylum seekers.

>>58968140
Those are artisanal craft mines. Most of that gold goes to Dubai.

Proof peace and Morgan Dollars are in the mail!

>>58968441
You have the right attitude to make it.

I've had to dip into my stack a few times over the years (cancer, job loss, etc.) to make mortgage payments, so I get it. I was able to offload my stack to a local coin shop that paid a little over spot for my generics. It was a little scary and takes timing and some kind of moral standard in the buyer that I understand isn't found in many LCS owners, so I totally understand hoarding cash in the mean time since you already have a decent stack.

Godspeed, fren. I hope your job isn't cut, but I know you'll be fine regardless.

For the new lurkers, I'm a poorfag. Even if you can only set aside 10% of your income to precious metals, given enough time, the size of your stack could be the reason your family survives the few hard years we all have ahead of us.

>>58968560
I have about 65k in PM's and 8500 in cash. I'm trying to hoard cash rn. Maybe I'll get to 12 or 13 by the end of the year. Am I fucked?

>>58968552
This is how you get coastal city golems to buy gold. "Oooh, it's artisanal!"

>>58968441
I remember being in the same boat this time last year. Luckily I already had a decent stack but a year later and still no work to be found. Unironically starting a YouTube channel this week. Wish me luck and good luck to you too, anon.

>>58968572
>Am I fucked?
Not remotely, though I guess it entirely depends on your cost of living. If you have a 3k mortgage and a slew of bills, then it might get a little shitty for a while with no income. If you're not currently living as a 1%er, then you'll be able to last a several months before dipping into your metals or whoring yourself out on the street. Nice work.

How is gold a viable alternative to fiat currency when pm is still speculative? :[] genuine question

>>58968679
It's not an alternative, it's an inevitable solution because every fiat currency in history has gone to zero without exception. When an unbacked currency collapses, people will flock to a system that doesn't operate on trust (of the government issuing it). Then the cycle repeats and as trust is regained, the currency starts getting abused again. This has been happening for thousands of years.

>>58968428
This one is best

>>58968656
Nice Swiss Franc. 1/2 or 1?

>>58968531
Based tassposting retard
You’re the only one getting pegged by a 40% real money and 60% third world shitfiat

>>58968703
No fiat currency I can think of is issued by a government. (US Fed/BOE/BDF/DB are all private banks off the top of my head) I'm well aware of the evils that private reserve banking/usury has caused historically, I just dont understand how people think precious metals are the antidote when its just as speculative as securities. Maybe I'm just retarded

>>58968717
thanks. only a half, but it has some pretty nice toning on it. i'll be on the hunt for a 1 franc coin now.

>>58968739
The word "fiat" literally comes from Latin for "by government decree"

>>58968679
>pm is still speculative?
it's not. you've just been brainwashed to think it is
1 oz silver = 1 oz silver
1 oz gold = 1 oz gold

If gold and silver are considered "speculative" in this environment, it's because they are heavily papered over in commodity trading markets and not being used as a proper reserve or currency backing.

>>58968742
THAT is some nice toning. I know by your posting that you're more into numismatics, but if you want to stack Swiss junk, 2s seem to be the best IMO.

>>58968739
>acting like the US Fed isn't part of the government because some piece of paper somewhere says it's a private entity
just fuck off

>>58968729
Kys crypto tranny.

>>58968679
Same thing different cult

>>58968754
>>58968758
That makes sense thank you anon, I think I was just thinking backwards.
>>58968764
Who does jpow take orders from bitch? Biden doesn't even speak to him and he gave Trump the finger. Stupid faaaAAAaag

>>58968754
>1 oz silver = 1 oz silver
>1 oz gold = 1 oz gold
That's the exact same argument crypto people have, kind of funny you have to admit

Cope and Seethe.

>>58968789
they stole it from us

>>58968790
>there are bitchcoiners out there who actually think it will surpass gold's market cap

Bought another dozen for ~17€/5RM. Sometimes I can get them for 15€ but rarely.

>>58967212
yeah because they don't have gun rights there. Retard

>>58968863
what's their silver content, half a troy oz?

>>58968789
>>58968798
>OnE bTc = OnE bTc
How much does a bitcoin weigh?
>hurr drr more than one litecoin
Then how much of each was used to manufacture the machine you're using to transfer said weightless currencies?
Crypto is a trap for fools. I'm not smart. If I was I'd be retired by now instead of working. But, at least I have the foresight to put my wealth into something that's physical instead of numbers on a screen.

>>58968892
I believe 0.4toz. Same as a small 5 Swiss Franc.

>>58968904
wew that's not bad at all might have to see if I can find some

had $200 is credit card points; ordered these
>random 100gr bar
>1oz asahi bar
>2 oz alien face

>>58968800
I wouldn't listen to Schiff too deeply. He's a borderline snake oil salesman clawing out at something he doesn't fully understand.

I don't understand these shortsighted dinosaurs who can't accept that gold and silver can exist in a world with a sound asset like BTC. I like and stack them both. I wish I got into BTC sooner so I could increase my gold stack.

I feel the same way about crypto-lords who go all in on 20 different shitcoins though, and refuse to understand the necessity of gold and silver.

>>58968914
>6.21toz for $200
Nice! Good job fren :)
That alien head is a nice piece.

>>58968920
>crypto-lords who go all in on 20 different shitcoins though, and refuse to understand the necessity of gold and silver
Bro, like bro, like coin, made me money so bro. Like um bro, like for real, money.
Because no regurds and bro, I have 26 shitty tattoos and no self awareness
And bro. Let me tell you, I'm dumb enough to be brainwashed by media to still
BRO!
Dollars are real and what color is your [SPORTS CAR]?

They'll be begging to slob knob for silver in the future.

>>58968916
>sound asset
>BTC
pick one

We are about to be so fucking wealthy bros.

>>58968963
i agree

>>58968916
Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies were actually created by the NSA and CIA. It's just computer code. If you think about it objectively for long enough you'll realize why it's a scam.

>>58968975
yup. hell, if it weren't for crypto, gold and silver would already be in outer space. it's just more of the same games they do to keep PM price down at all costs. fortunately i think people are waking up and smelling the coffee of not wasting precious money on computer code

>>58968963
How much would one need to be considered wealthy?
I fell like my stack is tiny compared to all of you guys

>>58968996
Any stack is better then no stack buddy. Chin up

>>58968996
make it stack is 10 oz gold and 1000 oz silver
imho

>>58968996
Depends anon, are you looking to be comfortably capable of taking care of yourself, your family, or your community? For how long?

Are you looking to be set for life, or just long enough to survive an economic upheaval?

>>58969015
>>58968996

>>58968996
Just depends how far the dollar falls. If it goes where many think it's going a modest stack will be more than enough. The vast majority of the population has zero real money.

>>58969007
thats an odd ratio
I have about 7 oz gold and 170 in silver though i will be getting more of it soon since gold has become almost unaffordable for my income
>>58969015
idealy set for life but realistically i just want to be comfortable set in case of severe Weimar hyperinflation

>>58965782
Why not land instead, when it’s so easily accessible through Vesta?

Does anyone have similar infographs/images (pic related)?

>>58969085
Don't worry about gold for now, 7oz is a fantastic start and the ratio's not in your favor, silver's the one that's undervalued at the moment.

If you want to be set for life, try to get around 20oz of silver per year of life per person; bump that to 40-60 for upper-middle class lifestyle. This is approximated from historical values from societies that actually used silver (Roman, especially, and the 20oz is from Venezuela's recent hyperinflation, but also Venezuela living standards so ymmv), but you'd have opportunity to make each ounce go further if you use it to acquire physical goods (especially land) during hyperinflation.

>>58969085
it's 1:100 what's odd about that
it's standard /pmg/ fare

why did pms rocket today?

>>58969116
cuz equities and crypto are both fake n gay

>>58969116
Because it's fucking over.

>>58969007
>make it stack is 10 oz gold and 1000 oz silver
Stop being a larping faggot, a monster box puts you in the top 1% of silver owners which is half of your silver figure.

Bill Holter a few years back was asked how much metal would get you through to the "otherside" and he said about a thousand dollars worth of junk silver per person would be enough and this guy is a broker for Andy Schectman, My own guess would be 100oz of silver would be more than enough.

>>58969146
true, 1000oz is probably overkill
but shoot for the stars

>>58969097
>This is approximated from historical values from societies that actually used silver (Roman, especially, and the 20oz is from Venezuela's recent hyperinflation
Yeah but didn't we mint much more Silver in the 2000 years since the roman empire collapsed?
Are this numbers still accurate with todays Silver in circulation?

>>58969146
>>58969153
You can never have too much physical silver.
It's like you're complaining you have $2,000 and that's too much for you.

>>58969176
now look at how much silver we consume compared to the roman empire

>>58969146
>im in the top 5%
I made it

>>58969176
>>58969183
Also look at our population growth - the ratio of silver available per person is the thing that matters most.

>>58969015
Which is why I posted this.

22 ounces of gold and close to 950 ounces of silver. I want to be able to buy a whole mountain not too far away from civilization with a never ending supply of fresh spring water and enough moving water to have a water turbine for electricity and some flat land for farming. Is that too much to ask?

COME ON $30!!!!!

>>58968996

>>58969177
$2000 is not a 30 year investment. You’re getting ripped off buying precious metals unless you’re sourcing them directly from African slave mines just like the kikes do. Silver has never been a good investment. What’s happening is that there are kikes with pallets of silver they mined when they were kiking in Africa. You’re literally buying bags.

I will keep saying this until it gets through silver stackers thick skulls: unless you’re buying metals directly from slave mines in Africa, you’re getting ripped off.

Got today. The two on the left were only $0.50 over spot

>>58969262
good joib

>58969255
please ignore the african slave mines troll

>>58969255
nigger we don't live in fucking Africa, if you have a lead on getting silver ore then post it

>>58966283
Yeah, let's get rid of our emergency funds in case of actual emergency. What a fucking retard.

>>58968572
> I'm rich, bitch! haha
yeah dude, nice lie or humblebrag but fuck off

>>58968863
>>58968910
I need a good source for them in good condition. I'd like no fewer than 100 of each kind.

>>58969255
why are you always here shitting up the boards with this crap? go 42% yourself or something
> Verification not required.

>>58968428
It's my favorite one too, like most frens here i bet. It's pretty clownish -in a nightmarish way- to think the judeo-tyranny is so smothering, so all-powerful, even a design vaguely related to a coin 99.99% of ppl aren't aware even existed 90 years ago is enough to make companies shit their pants to the point they'd rather lose money than cast a design they think might potentially piss off a random kike if discovered. Even though their company's name isn't mentioned anywhere on the round and there is nothing illegal nor offensing displayed.

Imagine the level of absolute control of the minds and souls an organization must have to reach this level of Voldemort honkery in a society where everybody pretend said organization are the most fragile victims ever... Mankind never experienced this ever before. Even an eunuch Han chink having to obey his Khan in the forbidden city during the Qing occupation wasn't 10% as buckbroken as the average US boomer still sobbing at kikes' fairytales in 2024.

>>58968490
>No Refills

>>58966605
r/Pmsforsale is one of the better sources… especially for idiots like me that live in a tax EVERYTHING state. So far, everything I have purchased has been real and tested as such by my local LCS. Just buy it from those sellers with good feedback and sales numbers.
>picrel: one of my purchases
Special thanks to the anon that spread the word out. I listened last year and just wanted to say thank you good silberfren!
Keep stackin’

>>58965864
I am still waiting to hear back about the ETA, hopefully I get some news before the weekend
stoked on cheesedcoin

>>58968013
I do plan to eventually do this when I have the space right now my main source of copper is pre 82 pennies

My gold keeps climbing since I first started stacking since 2023... Can't stop won't stop

Bros I wanna debtmaxx my credit cards and buy like 20 oz of gold. It's fucking happening.

>>58969900
it is happening. i'm not going to lie. it is fucking happening. even the fudders have admitted defeat

>>58969916
Peace Dollars will become crazy desirable if silver and gold take off.

anyone want to bet on when the actual run up will begin? perhaps soon a few oz of good ole silver trade offs to buy more good ole gold.

>>58970029
The run up is happening in real time

>>58970029
what are good indicators to know if the runup is happening

>>58970043
Numbers go up

>>58970029
now is the worst time to trade silver for gold though

>>58970045
what's the smart way?

>>58970048
Silver still lingering around $30 while good went up about $600 the past year is a huge problem.

>>58970053
no it's actually not a problem at all
just look at a GSR chart and it's clearly headed down

>>58970059
What the fuck are you talking about?

If prices wint go down later on today i will go ahead and spend a thousand on Gold and Silver now
I wanted to wait for my paycheck first but with the way things are headed this might be the last time to buy
Maybe i completely crazy an buy another OZ of gold before it becomes forever unreachable but if do that then inwont have any savings left on my Bank account

>>58970073
Just a thousand?

>>58970076
i only have 3K on my conto Anon im just a trainee im not even paid minimum wage

>>58970078
Godspeed, anon

>>58970073
just spend it all on silver

>>58970063
>doesn't know what GSR is
uh ok bro
let's post metal

>>58970048
thats what i meant. place bets on when exactly this run will happen for the good ole silver/gold switcheroo.
>>58970043
basically wait for something like a fairly quick green staircase going up and up.

>>58970149
buying silver is kinda shit in Germany
The best place to buy is Gold und Silber shop since they have thel owest premiums but its still 5 Euro per ounce and i have it be send to me instead of going to the place and picking it up myself

does anyone know why power query doesn't work on most dealers sites?
Im trying it right now on Degussa to have an excell sheat that automated updates the stock price and the seller price to calculate the premiums but for some reason i cant get it to work even though i have no problems getting the gold price to work

>>58970190
Germany is pretty good for silver if you don't insist on 999. 925 (10DM 1998-2001) is pretty much always available at or close to spot, sometimes even below spot.

>>58970389
not on sale at most online dealers sadly

>>58970411
Check gold.de. Aufgeldtabelle.

All time highs! All time highs

Y'all need to just buy from dealers when they have amazing sales or P2P as the cryptosnephews say.

>>58970190
>since they have thel owest premiums but its still 5 Euro per ounce

These lads premiums are between €3 - €3.50 over spot per ounce, its the cheapest i know of in europe.

https://www.acheter-or-argent.fr/

>>58970350
You can’t just use PowerQuery on any website. The website has to offer a free API service or similar. Also this isn’t related to precious metals and you’re better off going to StackOverflow or just researching the question on Google.

>>58970550
>French
Sorry Anon but I don't speak french and ik not gonna order from a site i don't understand
>>58970600
>Not related to precious metals
i don't know comparing premiums from online sellers and figuring out whats the best thing to buy seems pretty important for precious metals buyers IMO

GM.. gold up fully
thx..

>Only 20 dollars from 2600
Jesus Christ I haven't kept up at all I was to busy with work but I think injust missed the window to buy cheap
I think once I go home I order my finally ounce for a while because my Banc Account is almost fully drained

honestly seeing gold at 2600 is kind of alarming when it was 1700 a little over a year ago

>>58970741
also remember Gold never had a dip this year
It ended every month either stronger or tied with the previous month
Maybe it's overvalued at 2600 but it will just fall back to 2550 which is still an incredible increase overall for just this week

Bought $5,000 worth of silver 2 weeks ago at $28.66. Feeling pretty smug right now with my decision.

>>58970719
....is the problem you asked about more related to precious metals, or programming? It's just a logical observation that you'd get better help from a technical forum. Crikey.

i bought some stocks today

>>58970783
What stocks? Anglogold?

and just like that, silver will never drop below 30 dollars an ounce ever again

>cant buy any PM's for at least another week or two
Its over

>>58970752
>bought $5000 at $22 a couple years ago
I feel fantastic.

okay i panicked and bought 2000 Euros worth of Gold and Silver my last savings in Fiat money
I know have nothing but Gold and Silver God i hope i didnt fuck myself over
If it turn out there was indeed a dip later on and it will never reach these highs again i might end it
I bough 3 20 Kronen to go with my 2 20 kronen so that now i have a full 100 Kronen in fractionals and 18 Ounce of Silver Coins

>>58970881

>>58970741
>silver was $14 an oz and premiums almost non existent
>gold $1200 dollars

i hate the future guys

>>58970938
Imagine what you'll be saying in another few years.

>>58970741
I bought these for my three nephews back in November for Christmas. These bars are almost $100 each more expensive right now.

>>58970783
cringe

>>58970977
>Kinebars
Fuck they are absoluety beatiful they should start printing these on Coins already
Good Job Anon for looking after your nephews

>>58970915
>Paying Apmex premiums on a 100 ounce bar
Cringe.

>>58970783
>stocks
I own a few shares of Smith and Wesson, only because I'm a fan of their products. If I were a multi-millionare I'd buy at least tens of thousands of shares in them.
And then only carry highly customized HK handguns hahaha.

>berlin mint ships slower than all ma-shops shops apparently

>>58971100
>4% yield
not bad. i don't have any firearms manufacturer shares. maybe i should consider some

already available to buy. maybe next paycheck.

in more unrelated news, it looks like the boeing anon wasn't joking about the strike the other night.

>>58971006
They have silver at spot deals often. You’re just biased.

>>58970977
these are cool. they're an underrated mint. they release a lot of nice stuff outside the wiener coins.

31! LETS HERE IT FOR 31!

>>58971207
the guy obsessed with apmex is mad cause he tried to sell silver to apmex lol

>>58970838
I panicked during covid spring 2020, bought gold and silver for 100k$. Now it's what's making me sleep good at night

>>58971253
my only real regret is going for the Silver Kangaroo
Its fucking hideous but the only thing available at the moment
I wanted to buy some eagles but they where all out of stock

>>58970350
For most shops you probably need to scrape the website if you want to know their prices. Some minimal programming skill is usually required but there seem to be a few GUI based scrapers that might work.
>>58970719
>i don't know comparing premiums from online sellers and figuring out whats the best thing to buy seems pretty important for precious metals buyers IMO
Agreed.

>>58970977
>I bought these
Smart.
I bought only one, and there's dust or a flaw right in the middle of it.

Oh where oh where has my silver gone...oh where oh where can it be!!!!!!

>>58971254
>mad
No lol. I'm laughing at the funkopop collecting boomers who think they're making sound choices by paying premiums for plastic or modern collectibles.

>>58971357
you specifically attack people for buying silver and gold at spot from apmex lol

>>58971403
>buying silver and gold at spot from apmex
Impossible. Between their (((technical errors) during the promo events and their custom inflated spot price number you cannot buy G&S for spot from Apmex. They are as jewish as they come.

>>58969116
The US dollar index went down in anticipation of rate cuts.

>>58971458
>they charge you more because of tech issues man
bullshit

they do tend to have the highest spot price listed but when it's a 0 premium deal, it's far better than buying it on another site with premium. stop being a retard. i think apmex like lost your package one time or something and you can't get over it

>>58971292
Chemicals used in leather will heavily tarnish your silver. As will PVC

>>58971006
Is there anything on the back of the JBR 100 oz bar like the smaller bars? Pic related

>>58971357
>funkopop collecting boomers
Millennial here, and a 100 oz silver bar is not a funkopop. Nor are Libertads. Turd burglar.

NEARLY $2600 !!!

>>58971603
Interesting. I knew about PVC but not leather.

>>58971711
I love those JBR patterns

Just threw 100k into a gold etf. Don't want to play stocks anymore since the FED is cutting rates and a recession can kickstart after that. Also the massive printing that will happen afterwards

Can't figure out if I'm playing 4D chess here or not.

I can buy sovereigns for £465, being 7.98g/0.917 purity which comes to 0.235 oz of gold. 4 of these come out as £1,860 and 0.941 oz, or £1976.44 for 1 oz of gold. Not that I'd ever sell them, but they'd also be CGT free.
Meanwhile Chards sell CGT 1 oz for £1,981.88 (0.75% with their current sale) or £2,003.77 for non-CGT coins.

It's not a huge amount, but am I therefore saving money by buying sovereigns? Am I fucking up by not going for 1 oz coins? Apart from a few special years I wanted to collect, all the sovereigns are BU and the shop is very reputable (been in the business 50+ years, has all the necessary memberships and I've verified all the coins I've bought so far).

I was thinking of buying about 20 sovereigns as I've got about £10k to spend.

I’m considering selling some silver rounds due to unemployment. All of the coin shops and pawn shops near me are buying between $1 and $2 under spot. Is this normal? I thought you were usually almost guaranteed spot price for metals.

>>58971896
my LCS offers spot. find a better one. and you shouldn't go to pawn shops, that's retarded

>>58971896
its just boomers being nepotistic and not allwoing anyone but themself to profit out of Metals
Maybe you can find a seller Online with Ebay or smth like that or bite the bullet and go for a coin shop

>>58971711
There's nothing except pour waves on the back of the 100oz JBR ingots.

>>58971909
>Libertads are funkos
I feel attacked, I fucking love Libertads

>>58971911
Sorry you feel attacked. Just stating fact.

>>58971920
Holy shit I forget how bad their premiums are. My LCS has a somewhat decent supply on the old ones and they sell them as standard 1oz rounds

>>58971920
I thought it was just the US dealers cranking up the prices, but I was in a Mexican coin shop and even they charge that much for the Libs. It's insane.

>>58971920

>>58971900
I’ve called nearly 15 places in the last hour. Everywhere within a hour drive. Mostly coin shops. $1 under is the best I’m seeing.

>>58971901
It’s 500 oz, so I’m not keen on parsing it out.

>>58971955
>500oz
>$15,000~
>All at once to one dealer
Your Form 8300 bro?

>>58971934
>mexican coin shop
neat, where did you go and what was it like?

>>58971920
yeah as cool as libs are I think they're overpriced. they will experience a dump at some point, like ASEs did awhile back

>>58971909
you shut your whore mouth!

>>58971955
honestly i think you're just making up bullshit dude lol

>>58971936
I picked up my tubes of these in Mexico for $1 over spot

New Arrival.

>>58971962
I was planning to split it between a few sales. Preferably not 20 separate online sales. Not that it really matters, I bought it all at the same time so the government is aware I own it. I’d just prefer not to pay 28% gains taxes.

>>58971974
Dunno what to tell you bro.

>>58972031
well if you really want the best price you need to shop around. keep doing it

>>58972027
nice. is the one in the middle 1 ounce? it looks like it has a slightly smaller diameter than the others.

>>58972031
I sold some on Craigslist years back. Worked out all right after I parsed through the hilarious boomer low ballers

>>58972167
dang. all around excellent assortment. how do you like the doubloon

>>58970801
the shitty reit i'm trying to build up. don't get why they keep going up., so i'm only buying a few to keep it growing.

>>58971966
Monedas Briggs in Guadalajara, pretty chill shop. One of the owners there was a white guy from the states, and he was able to help me. I did end up getting some libs and classic 90% pesos there.

>>58972189
REITs are one of the first things that burn like tinder in crashes, didn't you learn anything from 2008?

>>58972039
>>58972143
Called everywhere I could find listed on google within around 90 minutes of me. Not sure if local dealers are particularly Jewish or if everyone is just expecting the price to fall soon since we’re nearing decades long highs. $1 under spot was the best I could find. It is what it is.

>>58972237
they spun off a big chunk of their commercial buildings into a separate ticker earlier this year and took a big drop when they did that. it hasn't been around these prices as long as i've been into stocks, which is over a decade now, so i'm okay with these prices and realize it will probably drop some when waters get rough. it's a small position now and i'm only doing small adds when i get paid. not all that much money into it as of yet.

>>58972167
My LCS sells beat up ones for $0.50 over spot, got five today

>>58972178
Just got it today for ~$2700

>>58972251
forgot cat pic

>>58972254
again forgot pic

>>58972118
Yes - It's thicker to facilitate high relief.

>>58972240
I get you're unemployed but do you really need to blow your whole stack now? What about your emergency fund?

>>58972228
>Monedas Briggs
>White guy from the states
What were you doing down there and what crimes was he guilty of here?

why do people stack silver? you'd have got get a small suitcase full of it if you want to have a reasonable SHTF stack at these prices ... right? is it cause people think it's undervalued and will appreciate? is it just cause it's accessible since it's comparatively cheap?

i like gold cause even a smallish bar can be worth tens of thousands, portability seems important to my schizo brain. pic related ... roughly 10k $ in silver vs the same value in gold

>>58972293
That's really none of your business

>>58972293
please explain your fixation on space and weight. do you not have a house

>>58972293
because in a real SHTF scenario you will need to pay for mundane things with a currency that isn't worth thousands. How are you going to buy $200 worth of supplies with gold? It's not practical

>>58972318
i guess thats a fair point. you could always trade the gold for silver but i guess in that scenario silver might moon if all the goldfags want to trade

>>58972316
i was thinking about a SHTF scenario where you flee the country with a half kilo gold and some diamonds up your ass

Dios mio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbvKi3CcJps

>>58972351
I think there was a story a couple of years ago about some guy who got caught smuggling gold bars up his ass.

>>58972404
I just looked it up
Apparently it happens all the time

>>58972404
It was a woman traveling to India I believe and it was for tax evasion.

>>58972031
Why don't you sell your gold first? Gold has tighter spreads so you should get a better deal.

>>58968863
I assume you're a euroanon? I found a shop in Austria that was willing to help me get them to the US, but it was a struggle to find the place.

>>58972429
true

>>58972470
i'm surprised you'd find that in austria or germany. it's not necessarily illegal but it's flying pretty close to the sun.

>>58972500
The owner seems to be the based kind of boomer who just likes history and coins.

The one I'm really having trouble finding is the USSR 50 Kopeks 1924-1927, none of the shops I can find in the former USSR ship internationally.

>>58972517
https://www.moneta.at/europa/russland/russland-udssr-50-kopeken-1924-silber-10026.html?language=en

thats probably not what you meant given how ez it was to find ... ?

>>58972535
It is, but I should've specified I'm trying to get a lot/bulk to be efficient with shipping/import costs - that's still a good find, but it's just the 1 coin, looks like there are 3 total on the site atm.

I got 50 of the 5 Reichsmarks from the place I found, I was hoping to find something like that, I have a bunch of IRL friends I've been getting into silver and they were interested in getting some if I could find a place.

>>58972572
ah damn. maybe you'd have an easier time finding a mixed bundle

>>58972591
Yeah they show up sometimes on eBay, if I can find even 10 somewhere I'll probably get those.

>>58972351
>i was thinking about a SHTF scenario where you flee the country with a half kilo gold and some diamonds up your ass
Let's be honest anon. I'm assuming you're in the US but if it goes to hell here it's going to hell everywhere and you will absolutely not be getting out of the country on a plane

It's happening

>>58966283
Yeah just cmon and sell when the war breaks out goys.

>>58966283
>Russia and China aren't buying shitloads of gold to just sit on it
That's exactly what they're planning to do. They've learned well from the West:
1. Buy up all the metals.
2. Make a fiat currency based on the metals.
3. Convince the rest of the world to only use your fiat that only you can print infinitely.
4. Break connection between metals and fiat.
5. Profit forever.

>>58972718
... there's another version of that? are there 3 now then? those omnia rounds are some of my favorite.

New thread:
>>58972757
>>58972757
>>58972757

>>58972420
If you wanna sell your gold ,mabye I'll buy off you,you live in cali

>>58972270
I wasn’t planning to sell the whole stack. Most likely just 200 oz of silver to get me through the next couple months. I’ve been unemployed for nearly 8 months now. Unfortunately it’s either this or I dip into my IRA. I’ve also got a firearm collection I could liquidate but that’s a lot more time consuming. Time for me to start taking job hunting seriously.

>>58966582
Been buying the buy back silver @ BN for a while now. Im expecting more cheap 1 oz coins with the recent pump.

>>58967779
>>58967841
when gold is 10k per once you will regret buying what you can over time.

Central banks world wide are hording gold. The great reset is a matter of time. I mean you can always buy some silver. But i personally am not a fan.

>>58973270
>But i personally am not a fan.
Not a fan of silver but i do buy it in hope i can sell it for more gold if there is a silver queeze.

>>58973270
>
>Central banks world wide are hording gold. The great reset is a matter of time. I mean you can always buy some silver. But i personally am not a fan.

Gold confiscation is the norm, not the aberration tho.
>>>481642430
Gold is good, but Silver "is" the money they/them can not touch

>>58974114
>Gold confiscation is the norm, not the aberration tho.

I'm not that paranoid and i have never felt bad buying the worlds #1 asset by market cap.

>>58974252
>I'm not that paranoid and i have never felt bad buying the worlds #1 asset by market cap.
I'm not insinuating not to aquire gold, I am asserting when, not if it gets bad, you won't want to/ be able to spend it as easily especially if the government is looking for it.