/biz/ - Business & Finance

Selling calls on this thread. They'll never reach expiration.

Heh, no one will know who I was in the last thread.
I'm buying $NTR, btw

>>58903769
lol NTR will go up tomorrow because of rail strike back to work legislation, but why not invest in CP rail directly for gains?
Buy large amount of $CP tomorrow.

it's okay jannies i forgive you

Is the great /biz/ holocaust bullish or bearish?

test

Just move to /bant/ you double niggers.

>>58903732
Jannies deleted the GME general?

>>58903844
They're covering up for the impending MOASS

Great, the last thread with some real content got deleted

mods dont understand the financial implications theyve cause. possibly millions of dollars from a minor fuck up. countless anons will be spared from losing large sums of money because they werent able to take /biz/'s advice for a few minutes

>>58903782
What gains, exactly? Govt is going to nationalize those nigger rail companies, and I'm going to be clapping when the labourers get fucked into min wage hell.
Fuck em all; companies and unionized fags.

PE, PEG, ERP, DCFs, DDMs, all pointing to the most expensive market ever outside of the dot-com bubble, GFC earnings downgrades, and COVID downgrades

just marking my territory

also, SOXL inc is going to acquire SPXL inc after NVDA’s earnings this week

>>58903791
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>>58903791
I'm honestly kind of annoyed. I thought we had some good information being shared.

>>58903732
I don't post on biz very often but I wanted to drop by and say that it's...

EXTREEMLY GAY that gay internet tokens with a market cap of 1.2 trillion (maybe 2 trillion with non btc shitcoins) get more attention than the IRL market of gay employers with a market cap of 50 trillion in the USA alone.

Crypto could go to 0 or go to 2x market cap today and nothing would happen besides a bunch of bobo posts.

If USA stonks went to zero or 2x today the world as we know it would end. This is only the stonk market, not any market of real goods or services. GDP of major countries is in the trillions, that's value produced. Worldwide GDP is over 100 trillion.

Bitcoin alone is roughly valued at 1% of 1 year's production. All the gold in the world is valued at 10-20 trillion, or 10-20% of 1 year's production. Sure shitcoins and cryptography sales is valued highly, but if /biz/ is a board about crypto trading you may as well make a board for every 2 trillion dollar meme.

/const/ for english speaking construction work
/can2023/ for canada in 2023
I imagine
/cow/ for the global cow market would get similar bot traffic to /crypto/ because cows produce about 1 trillion a year in value. Which is probably about the same as crypto.

If you believe in crypto as a financial institution, that's good news probably, you guys are still in a discovery phase

If you guys believe in crypto as digital gold or oil... this is awful news, you guys are already on par with various commodities. Silver and copper (both valued lower than crypto right now) are gonna roll you.

I'm posting really to say that /biz/ is improperly named. It focuses on a really very tiny proportion of real value. If you fags only want to talk about dogcoin69 or froggielink420 Just rename this board to /crypto/ and be done.

Sorry to all the bots or jannies or niggers or whatever else is out there, your memecoins might be fun but they don't really matter at the moment. There are real markets out there.

>>58903732
ubel's warm smelly armpits

>>58903732
>BREAKING
>Stocks near all time highs
>Gold near all time highs
>Powell endorses rate cuts
Something doesn't feel right

Boeing crashing as week. My shorts are printing

>get to 104K, reasionable target
>put it in an S&P500 fund
>get an average 10% annual gain
>take out 10.4K annually, which is 200 per week
>not enough to retire but It can supplement my regular income and semi-retire

now I know the S&P500 might not have reliable growth but is there soemthing else I might be missing?

>motley fool puts out article urging caution
>ELF plunges 10%

>>58905093
why does it goes up?

>buy AMD
>instantly dumps

>>58904707
Why was it deleted - do threads have an age expiry?

>>58905113
>supplement my regular income
>semi-retire on JUST 6-figures

Depends on what you mean. If you're going to need it to pay your living costs then obviously you can't predict the ups and downs and will probably find the wife wanting a new bathroom when the markets down. Either eat shit with some divvies and bonds or become a landlord.

>>58905113
That's pretty much it. In practice, you want to draw down less: one bad year that cuts into your baseline capital can put you into a death spiral if you keep trying to withdraw the same amount, so in practice they usually recommend closer to 5% withdrawal rate. But yes, that's how a 'soft retirement' works.

>>58905337
I live alone and I can live modestly. I intend to still work part time, I basically just don't want to work but I realise that's unrealistic with my networth.
Another goal would be to save up more than 104K and buy a cheap property, then I could just live there without paying rent.

While we're on the topic has anyone ever looked into buying farmland as a comfy passive income retirement? Buy the land and pay a tenant farmer to manage it while you gorge yourself on fresh food. Maybe make a deal where his wife supplies you with year-round pies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDTiFkXgEE

>>58903922
why would they delete it?

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>Why was it deleted
Someone made a mistake last night and wiped out all of the active threads on several boards: /biz/, /bant/, /fit/, /diy/, /co/, /an/, and several others

>>58905354
I think I could manage with only taking 150 per week out, still more than 5% but doable.
It still wouldn't be a good life, for a start I would have to live in an area with low rent. Which usually means its a slum a shit area.

someone tell me what to do, learning options the hard way currently.

>>58905367
oh ok, weird

>>58905113
You might consider QQQ instead of S&P if you can handle the volatility. Just better returns in general.

But on the other hand, when shit goes down, QQQ will go down harder than SP500. And it seems likely that this moment is coming sooner rather than later.

>>58905610
I mean you appear to be doing options the way they were intended. They're always going to be risky.

Google and NVDA are usually guaranteed to print if you just put them like 3 weeks out. Even with those though, you might win 95% of the time, but the 5% where you lose it's gonna hurt.

Just the way it goes.

>>58905649
>INTC
My intent was to get a spread on intel, since it's trading right around $20. I wanted to profit so long as it stays in that area.

>NVDA
I'm trying to buy a NVDA calendar spread to profit off the increased IV around earnings, and not get screwed if the price goes one way or the other. I bought a somewhat bullish spread on ULTA too.

>cash secured puts
I'm trying to buy some cash secured puts as well, but don't want to move too much money to my brokerage yet. But I think having at least 50% in CSP's would be wise. Is there a bearish version of a CSP?

>>58905649
i guess i just don't know how to determine when to sell? the pricing on options isn't at all intuitive to me yet. I used the price graph to see that my intel call should gain value over time. i thought it'd lose value.

trying to just figure out how to make an extra $1k/mo reliably on a $40k portfolio. ik it's unrealistic but even $500/mo (1% monthly gain) would be great.

I only have about $300 invest out of a $2k portfolio btw.

>bought REITs a couple months ago
>up 20% now
Okay do I sell or just sit on paper gains while collecting divvies? Everything seems expensive so I don't know what to buy if I do sell.

>>58905758
REITs will moon when rates go back to zero

Do you guys think Nvidia's stock can go higher than now or it's all down from here

>>58905031
The American stock market is fucking rigged as all hell anon. At least the crypto market doesn't pretend to be something its not. Everyone knows its the Wild West. Normie stocks can fuck off aswell as the boomers and niggers promoting it.

>>58906064
the pump and dump shills are out in full force this week, wonder why

check yo keys robert

Intel
Buy now or wait?

When will Robinhood offer options trading on BTC?

And can someone explain how calendars work to profit from 'changes in implied volatility over time'? It's just buying/selling calls at different dates. And when selling these, if one leg is looking profitable, should I sell it individually, or should I stick to selling whole spreads at a time? And when do you aim to sell the spreads with this?

>>58906488
wait until next quarterly report. that's what i'm doing.

>>58905703
Full disclosure, I haven't played around with calendar spreads, so I don't know that I can interpret what you've got on that front. Your $20 call is pretty strongly directional - if the price stays near $20 (even if it's a little above $20), this will lose money. So I don't think it matches your stated intention unless you pair it with someone else.

For a bearish equivalent to a CSP, I don't think there's an exact equivalent, but a call credit spread looks closest.

>>58906670
>$20 intc call
yeah that was indeed directional, i don't think it'll hang below $20 for long. but in general I'd like to profit off it's current trend of trading sideways between high $19.xx and high $20.xx.

I'd like to profit off the volatility around NVDA earnings too, and the IV crush afterward, so went with a calendar, but I'm not sure if the second leg was far enough out. I still don't really get the relationship between IV and price, and don't really get why a calendar spread seemingly wants an unprofitable leg.

>>58906670
I sold the $20 intc call at a 20% profit btw. If it creeps toward $21, I was gonna buy puts. This is in addition to the spread I already have on it, maybe doubling down on the same trade isn't wise.

ASMB stock ladies!

>>58905213
Starliner isnt their bread and butter. It shows how shit they are as a company but that isnt news to anyone anymore. Starliner was most likely priced in weeks ago

>>58906770
cute

How is the interest rate cuts going to impact stocks?
>I have 4k to invest and I am thinking buying SQQQ shares OR TQQQ long puts.

>>58905354
this happened to my small business; Never start a small business unless you have your mortgages and debts settled for the next 8 months. Or your business may fall due to personal bills and bad economy

>>58907310
small caps, ie: iwm

>>58907320
I am thinking UEC or UUUU

>>58905356
if you have pretax ira/401k you should roll that bitch over to roth in the years when you have zero-low income. in current year numbers, you could convert like 25k taxfree (std deduction+0% income bracker) and still have over 20k in tax free qualified dividends you can take

I'm shorting the Nasdump for x0.5 the index.

I'M TRYING TO BUY A HOUSE IN THE NEXT 6 MONTHS

SHOULD I JUST SELL MY STOCKS NOW FOR THE DOWNPAYMENT OR HOPE FOR THE MARKET TO JUMP AGAIN?

I REALLY NEEDED TODAY TO BE GREEN.

>>58908754
>HOPE
>NEED

These things are your enemies.

Should I sell this? The P&L graph shows it getting more profitable as it nears expiry, but that doesn't make any sense to me.

>>58908754
Is today not green? Today's not over.

I would recommend you do nothing for the next 24 hours. You appear to be panicking (the ALL-CAPS was my hint there) and the fact that you needed one particular day to be one particular color despite having concrete near-term plans for the money makes me think you're not going to make good choices right now.

>>58908754
You should definitely keep holding after a 10% bounce to all time highs. What if it pumps another 10%?

>>58908837
>More profitable as it nears expiry
Remember that those graphs assume the price of the stock stays the same, which is honestly (in my opinion) the least helpful way to consider options value. You might try options profit calculator dot com (plz don't think I'm spamming), which has a bit more nuance in that you can see how the value changes over time with different prices in the underlying.

If I understand correctly, though, you're in a call debit spread, meaning you paid money to enter this trade, meaning you bought the 9/6 call and sold the 8/30. Right now theta is draining value out of both of those calls, but it's draining faster from the one that's closer to expiration, so until 8/30 your spread will gain value if the price stays low. I think.

>>58908906
I did use a separate profit calculator to poke around at different prices. I would think the trade would be profitable if it stays low before 8/30, so my sell call gains value, then goes up afterward so my long call gains value.

But apparently that's wrong, and this is a delta neutral spread, and it's used to profit off of changes in implied volatility. I didn't know this, so want to get rid of it since I don't understand it, and they're both short term calls thus sensitive to theta decay.

>>58908946
Hm. I don't think it's exactly delta-neutral, right? The 8/30 should have lower delta than the 9/6? If you look at the options individually you can tell for sure. So I don't think your initial take was totally wrong.

I didn't have to wait 15 minutes and I never verified my email, why can I post?

>>58909022
The strike prices for both are the same, doesn’t that make it neutral?

>>58909046
you should probably wipe your cookies

ASMB stock ladies!

Trials results will be sucessful

>>58909345
ASMB is a company?

>been under a rock the last three months.
>return, read th sticky.
>suddenly /biz/ is a genuinely slow board.
Jesus. Was the percentage of bots and shills really that bad?
I'm not complaining, threads do seem to have gotten better.

>>58909905
Whole board was always shills except /smg/. Not much has changed.

>>58909913
Even back then we'd go through two-three whole smg's through my typical workday.
Now this one's been up since sunday, which is impressive.
Wish they'd implement this on more boards.

>>58909920
There's a lot more discussion in the /smg/ on bant.

>local company on it's last legs
>thought about buying stocks of it because it was in the single cents but instantly gave up
>wake up this morning
>it rose to about 2 dollars

>>58909174
In broad terms it'll be roughly neutral, but the differences between the individual options mean it's not going to be perfectly flat. The individual deltas of the options would have to add up to zero, and even if they did at the time of purchase, they can diverge over the life of the option.

Delta is how much the price of the option will change for each $1 change in the price of the underlying stock. When you're deep in the money, delta is 1 (you're just stacking on extra profits), and when you're deep out of the money, delta is zero (because even if you gain a lot you're still expiring worthless). If you've seen a logistic curve, that's what we're talking about here (asymptotic at y=0 and 1, and at x=strike price the delta is exactly 0.5). When you're a long time away from expiration, it's a smooth, gradual curve from 0 to 1, but as you get closer to expiration the curve gets stepper and stepper. At the moment of expiration, it's a sharp step.

Hopefully that's helpful and not a) too abstract or b) telling you stuff you already know.

>>58909993
AMER3? It was artificially raised because of legislation against penny stocks, you could have known that days before it happened.

we're absolutely in a bubble, waaaaaaay too many plebs think they know how to use options and paid shills trying to rope more in every day

Why is this place so slow now

>>58910370
probably the email verify

>>58910370
All the bots got filtered and the shitposters all went to /bant/. I don't miss it at all.

>>58903732
What's NVDA going to be tomorrow? 140? or 100?

>>58911192
200

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it’s because of the jannytranny, you stupid niggers

>2 days old
>80 replies
Damn this place died

kek /bizzies/

If SpaceX buys ASTS it's gonna moon, right?

So /smg/bros, how we doing?
What the plan for next month?

Sept has historically been known for being a high vol or down month.

I'm liquidating positions. Not because I'm bearish. I'm need money for a down payment on a home. Will be liquidating around $360K as part of the down payment putting me from $1.1-1.2M range back down to $800k range.
Feels bad knowing I won't be in the 7fig club anymore (portfolio-wise).

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>>58911971
I'm gonna continue DCAing into VOO and regretting putting money into any other stupid meme shit I saw on /biz/. My portfolio is only around $30k though.

>>58911971
I'm on SPY LEAPS. Already ITM and feeling pretty good about my entry point.

>>58903732
Fuck, i'm so into TRX and RWA that I forgot there's an actual legit market outside crapto that exists

>>58911554
good.
The less poos running shitcoin bots the better.

>>58905083
We just had a massive crash a few weeks ago too. Also Warren Buffet is selling a lot of stock too, specifically Bank of America.

So im retarded and am using a margin account in robinhood and I just deposited $3k from my bank, but it only says I have $250 of cash and $6k of margin. How does that work? What if I want to withdraw my own money back?

>>58912925
>massive crash
>2% reversal which has recovered and far more
Your tribe, man. Can't stop lying

>>58912967
What? I think something big is going down.

Are stock options and their volume a good precedent for how much a stock could be worth when shorted?

>>58912987
No, no. Everything is great.
We're living in the best of times. Everyone is employed and making record breaking salaries.
We're living in a utopia never before seen on earth.
DOW 50,000!!!!!

Pull out of Nvidia now or go all in? What’s their price on open tomorrow? Will it perhaps just stay the same falling right in line with expectation?

kek superturbomicropenischinesecomputer down for (((accounting reasons)))...pottery

>>58911971
I've been happy ever since I took the dividend pill. I don't need to care about finding companies that will grow to the moon, just companies that will grow their dividends above inflation. Much easier.

AVPT WARRANT BROS WTF WAS THAT IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMETHING GOOD HAPPENED I'VE BEEN HOLDING THESE BAGS IN MY ROTH IRA FOR LIKE 3 FUCKING YEARS I'M SO GLAD IT'S OVER

https://www.morningstar.com/news/globe-newswire/9221388/avepoint-announces-commencement-of-an-offer-to-purchase-and-consent-solicitation-relating-to-its-warrants

>>58912930
You cant. Robinhood owns it now. You've been robbed

I bought intel at 20.6
I'm so fucked bros.

>make-or-break earnings report today
>Buffet going into cash
>/smg/ is dead
it's over bros

>>58912930
They give you some margin to use while waiting for the transfer to clear
You will be able to withdraw once it settles

So when exactly are those Nvidia earnings dropping anyway? I've been waiting whole day and I need to go to sleep soon.

>>58913949
after hours as usual, go to bed

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

It's over for SuperMicroPenis isn't it

THIS THREAD IS GOING OFF RAILS

CLEAN IT UP JANNY

Do I hold my NogVideo short after the closing bell or what?

>>58914264
if their Q2 is good you can always just buy early tomorrow like a scrub and get some gains

Just bought nvdiai calls

annnd no one wins with nvda earnings

Don't know whether to bail now on NVDX or hope tomorrow flips around. I seemingly exist to do stupid.

Ubel makes me unbelivably horny.

>>58903732
Why is NVDA sinking!? The earnings reports were good weren't they!?

ASMB stock ladies!

>>58915091
https://www.wsj.com/business/earnings/nvidia-nvda-q2-earnings-report-2025-16fc82a2

>I bought QQQ puts at strike 440.
>I bought SOXL puts at strike 25

>>58915091
Glad it dipped again, gonna buy more

>>58915091
should I buy the dipperino tomorrow??

>>58915121
my favorite feeling
makes me nauseas

>>58915120
Can you give me a qrd on that article I don't want to pay for access.

>>58915347
https://archive.is/wVFr2

>>58915356
So this is saying what overall? narrowing margins, production challenges, and high market expectations mean bearish?

>>58905031
Bitcoin is quantified energy output connected to digital technology. Energy is the base input of the economy and over time every act of economic activity will be governed by the closest thing to measure energy in our computer run economy and that is bitcoin. Stocks are limited by demand for company goods and supply chain/skills the company is able to provide. Stocks will always drop to zero and without a better wave of faster growing companies to beat the past companies the entire market goes down. Gold is redundant in a global economy and will trend down against bitcoin until we live in a complete analog world with no electricity. Every last bitcoin down to satoshis will be fought over among the global population until globalism comes to a complete end as every satoshi measures claim to global energy that is on a constant downward slope since surplus global production in oil ended by 2008. Over time 1 acre of land will depreciate against 1 bitcoin as population collapse is on a slower curve against global energy decline. SP500 companies will be dumping their cash flows for bitcoin and it will reflect in the stock market. Mathematics of bitcoin makes it the greatest asset of the 21st century.

Thank you NVDA.
With that, I'll be taking my talents to Del Taco.

EnVidia more like EnPoopia.

I know this isn't the thread for housing advice, but I don't know where else to ask.

Should I buy a nice expensive 3 bedroom house and get a couple of roommates, or just buy a cheap 1 bedroom apartment and wait out the market further. I can afford both, but I just don't want to liquidate all of my stocks just to get ripped off.

>>58915619
With rates what they are, what % would be in downpayment?

>>58915630
I'm putting 20% down no matter what, but I figure in 2 years maybe rates will be like 3-4% again which I'd be a lot more comfortable buying an expensive house. But I may have to buy a house in the next 6 months due to my current living situation.

>>58915637
if you're banking on the roommates to cover the increased mortgage of the expensive house, imo it wouldn't be worth the headache and i'd just go with the cheap apartment. even if you refi in a few years that's a lot of risk to carry with potential for shitty roommates, dealing with rent, etc (personally i don't see us getting below 4% in a long while, rates take the elevator up and the stairs down). with the cheap apartment you'd have some breathing room and could dump some extra into the market.

If you have reliable room mates <--------
Then that is the play
They will pay your house off for you

If the room mates are shit, become shit;
You're looking at a lot of stress

>>58903732
Short Wendy's
NASDAQ: WEN

Nothing about how the yield curve uninvested? Nothing about Deutsche Bank shorting US treasuries?

>>58915729
i have cans and cans of wendys chili
ready for the collapse

>>58915677
>>58915649
>>58915619

I live in a 3 bedroom in Manhattan and sublet two of the bedrooms making it so my monthly rent is $500 as opposed to the usual $2500+

>>58914985
But y tho

>>58912392
SPY LEAPs literally the way to play options if you don't want to go broke.
Why can't wallstreetbets learn such basic ass shit?

>>58912049
Keep working on it. Remember to leverage your indexes when shit hits the fan and markets dips hard.
SSO/UPRO/TQQQ/UWM/TNA

>>58913320
Dividend pill is indeed very kino and comfy. Esp if you're doing it in an IRA or you are a low wage earner. Then it's basically low tax rate anyways and you can see your progress.

>>58915619
I would never go full liquid out of anything into just 1 asset either even if it's good unless it's absolutely necessary:
>your preggo wife (that you like but have not prenup with) says she'll fucking divorce your bum ass you don't get a house before the baby's due

It's not really an investment decision as much as how much you want to be around other people. Also if you plan to get rent from your roomies as landlord then also expect to need to do landlord shit.

>all my lame-ass finnish stocks are bringing in decent steady profit
>all my shiny, capitalism-waxed US stocks with high acquisition costs are eating massive piles of shit

Break-even is the play here and when I hit that I'll dump all that garbage and take my money elsewhere. You can keep your failing economy.

Thoughts on LUNA? Seems like a good company caught up in some bad press. I bought a little bag.

>>58915383
Saylor is a retard and a laggard

>>58903732
10% crash well predicted.
All silenced mongs here crying they can't post on any social media.

Here comes the next crash. All companies still run by thieves.
This is the big one. All will fall this time.

Best financial decision is to pull all investments.
Everything. Everything, and to leave every corporate that is saturated with thieves destitute and full of legal issues that gets them incriminated.

Now is the chance to send these thieves to prison, and start fresh.

Reveal all their illegal, illicit and immoral actions.

The sooner this happens, the sooner we can get skilled individuals working high skill jobs instead of multiple individuals working low skill jobs.

Why are the jews allowing us to buy NVDA on sale all of a sudden? What's the catch? It's way too good to be true. Is this to ensnare us into some unrealized gains threshold so when they install Kommiela she can make the IRS seize it all? How can we turn this around on them and still take advantage of the opportunity they've created?

Oh, never mind. I see what they're doing now. Of course the tribe got to buy in when the market was """closed""" and by the time it opens the opportunity has been sucked up faster than an infant's foreskin under the rabbi's lips. Fucking scam market with fake hours and fake rules.

I started investing this year. Right now I have FZROX in my Roth IRA, and VOO and NVDA in my brokerage account. What else should I be looking at to diversify my portfolio?

>>58917226
>diversify
ETFs are already diversified, it's the entire point of them. Just do 50% in VOO and 50% in SCHD, reinvest all the dividends and you will have a better portfolio than 99% of Americans that you don't even need to manage.

My white wife brought me 3 beautiful children, she cooks, she cleans, she spends wisely, and she loves to pleasure me and fulfill my sexual fantasies every night

That is worth more to me than all the gold in the world. Good luck out there fellas, and remember there's more to life than money.

>MULN is trying to do another 1-100 reverse split
>Etrade is gonna hit me with another bullshit reorganization fee
>Gotta pay to sell
>Gotta pay to transfer
>I didn't even want an Etrade account, I opened an ING account 15 years ago and it's been passed around like a cheap whore since it folded
I hate it here

Should I go all in on Apple stocks?

>>58917439
>SCHD
In my IRA or the brokerage account?

>>58917549
Dividends are good in IRAs because of taxes. But it really doesn't matter. Both.

I am >95% crypto at the moment.
I am starting to build out a position in FNGU.
I'm just going to DCA 1-2 shares or whatever $500-$1,000 gets me every time there's a 10% pullback and buy even more when it's a 15-30% pullback. The pullbacks seem to be relatively common since it's a leveraged tech ETF with only 10 holdings.

Oh does no one post here anymore? I remember a few years ago when this place was really active. What happened

OU NO NO ITS DUMPING AHAHAHAHAA

>>58917661
Bots took off and shill their unicorn money everyone left because this was not about businesses anymore. Then hiroshima purge the bots and surprise surprise no one is left.

>>58917792
Nice, bought some more of it.

Dollar General bros...

>>58917946
My portfolio is down 3.03% today because of this bullshit >:(

>>58917822
I was using SMG in 2020 and it was really active.
Did Baggie kill himself yet?

>>58918159
Up about 1%, from the 0.15% move on SPY. Effective leverage working as intended.

>>58917946
is it an overreaction? i want to buy...

What are some options that are actually likely to double in price intraday?

I have to pay someone off
And no, it's not my fault
Unless you count getting a pothead fired after they almost ran over someone with a forklift "your fault"
Or learning that the pothead can deepfake more than you'd expect a pothead to deepfake

>>58903732
AI meme bags bros we got too cocky.

>>58918749
>options
>actually likely
>intraday
none, its gambling. pick a direction and hope you're right

>>58903732
NVDA beat expectations, but did not beat expectations of "beat expectations".

I hope no one is "buying the dip" here and to sell off your shit.

>>58919590
yep the buildout is over

>>58919600
Should I get out of SOXL and USD? I closed my NVDA puts today.

>>58903732
Are chip stocks a good investment?

all things considered not the worst month performance. hopefully tomorrow is a green day for NVDA. all but NVDY was built wednesday post earnings / today. sold 350+ shares of that to buy other leveraged shit. should have just held

>>58919767
>drunk

>>58912925
>massive crash
new

>>58904679
What the fuck was posted??? Tell me!!!!

>>58917470
Low effort bait

>>58917557
I've been looking into SCHD. I'm interested in dividends but I see a lot of people saying it's not worth it unless you're close to retirement. I'm 28 btw. Are the dividends from SCHD worth not just putting more money into VOO?

>>58917439
>Just do 50% in VOO and 50% in SCHD
i dont know why boomers push this so much when 2x etfs exist that just shit all over the usual boomer etfs with no downside for anyone decades away from retirement
2x like SSO and QLD are bulletproof, the sector leveraged etfs are memes but the healthcare ones are good too like 2x RXL and 3x CURE

>>58920331
this dudes videos are pretty good and he does a good job explaining the compound effects of reinvesting dividends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5gCX0V2Juo

>>58921484
Higher reward, higher risk. I haven't looked into leveraged ETFs really. i'll look into it but I've always heard to avoid them.

>he missed out on Tesla for pioneering EV
>he missed out on Nvidia dominating the AI field
>he missed out on El lilly for weight loss drug
the next trillion dollar company will be increasing lifespan

>>58921814
nah that dudes videos are pretty bad and its not a good explanation at all...avoid any channel with a globohomo funkosexual avatar. its probably not even a real person...could be a bug using a fake voice

>>58921881
You sure it won't be "Vine but with more filters" or "webstore for cheap Chinese crap" or "innovative way of convincing VCs we're not just a real estate company" or "what if you could sell shitty arts and crafts on your Tumblr?" or...

Hello /biz/
I predicted the crash and told you exactly when it would happen. I was not the only person who predicted it.

Very few of you listened to me, but those who did listen to me saved alot of money.
Some may have even made money by moving into a financial liquid state.


Why did the crash happen?
The crash happened because thieves occupy the highest positions in companies.

Why will the crash happen again?
The core problem of removing thieves from these companies has not been fixed.
This means that investments will continue to line the pockets of thieves.

These thieves HAVE NOT hired experts in these positions.
They hire only people from their clique, this is like a game of mafia.


What should I do to make investing in companies profitable again?
Blacklist these company owners, prosecute the company owners.
Systematically go through and fire an enormous % of the company, including the menial workers, especially the managers and administration.
A lot of these managers are hiring for their own nationalistic faction:
You can identify them as indians hiring indians.
Muslims hiring muslims.
Chinese hiring chinese.
Vietnamese hiring vietnamese.
Phillipinese hiring Philipinese.
The nationalistic attitudes are but a symptom of the problem as they are mostly hired as slave labor, the true problem lies with management and administration.
Management and administration suck up all the money, and lie about their profits.
However, not removing the nationalistic behaviors will result in a more dangerous catastrophic failure for the company.
Hire meritocratically. Pay meritocratically.

How do I make money now? Liquid position.
Hire meritocratically. Pay meritocratically.
DO NOT INVEST IN HOUSING.

In 1 year time another crash will occur as the public realizes: "hey my dividends aren't making money"
The advice of purging these companies is not being taken by the mafia management. You need to pull your investments now. The money is already stolen. You find out again on next dividend payment.
1. As profits of financiers are lowered, they will sell off houses to maintain a lavish lifestyle.
2. As more inept people are brought into rent the houses, management of these housing will become exceptionally difficult.
3. As the greed of the thieves increases, they will attempt to lower the wage of the management, removing the pool of effective management.
Problem 1 will cause problem 2 and 3, problem 2 will cause problem 1 and 3, problem 3 will cause problem 1 and 2.

Why am I helping you?
I want to improve society more than I want to make money. Watch out for the nationalist trap, when removing the administration. There is a power vacuum, and the actions of these people are predictable.

It is not the meek who will inherit the earth, it is the vile cutthroat, underpaid, silently united through nationalistic tendencies and a common goal. These will be mostly Indians, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.

Will they see the tricks that enslave them?
No, they will terrorize those they perceive to be racist and they do not bite the hand that feeds.

What happens if you don't jail or kill these management and administration that you've made rich inadvertently?

They will use their resources to ruin your businesses.
These thieves need to be removed. You cannot accept anything less than 20-40 year jail time for these admin and management people or your long term investments will be at significant risk.

>>58922210
>>58922190
>>58922177
>>58922168
Looks like schizoposting is back on the menu.

>>58905031
Unfortunately cryptokids have corrupted this board into oblivion

>>58919590
I bought calls at 130 expiring 9/20. I don't see why money won't continually flow in after this blows over.

I have a for sure 10 bagger before Christmas. If I get 3 kind replies to this post, I will share it with /smg/

I fucking hate stocks

How do I hold a small cap all the way to top 10 S&P 500? As soon as a small cap does well it leaves the small cap ETF

>>58923089
Reply #1

>>58923089

>>58923089
I'll bite. I didn't really believe in "for sure 10 baggers," but if you're in a sharing mood I'd love to hear what you're excited about.

>>58923089
Please share the news. I'm new and have only been trading pic rel.

EV adoption and data centers to keep up with demand from AI will lead to demand for energy soaring. Investing in energy, renewable and energy storage companies to take advantage of two emerging technologies is like selling pickaxes during a gold rush.

>>58924476
I agree, do you have any recommendations? I'm pro-nuclear but it seems dead in the water.

>>58916283
Let me put this in perspective. There is no better asset then bitcoin in self custody. You look at SP500 leaders and their downfalls are complex but guaranteed whereas bitcoin mining will only continue as companies fall. Look at apple. Trillions of dollars but they can't stop the decay of china and fall of the CCP guaranteed this century, that will turn apple into sears. Fast food chains will be closing locations everywhre as they realize energy costs and wage wars crush them and their stocks fall to zero. Show me a "safe" defense contractor. Lockheed martin, raytheon. Look at greater trends of pro palestine protestors outside the DNC. The democrat party will eventually be an islamic extremist party that will defund every big name defense contractor to bankruptcy. Look at banks like TD being exposed for CCP interests. Banks will be failing from CRE investments failing scandals computer hacks and big investors realizing banks are rotting disasters. You want to know what people will be thinking of bitcoin at 10 million dollars? I want that. There is no top in bitcoin. There is no asset that will see as much appreciation this century as bitcoin bar monero. The SP500 will be a joke and the bond market will be a ghost town as nobody wants fiat currencies anymore and companies are failing left and right. SMG will be going "ah shit I can't believe bitcoin went to 200k in 2025 and I didn't DCA".

>>58917946
>>58918678
Is it bottomed out? I hate DG and think it's disgusting, very ugly stores with low quality products that diminish the rustic appeal of cozy rural towns, but it seems oversold and like it found a bottom. Might open up some calls here.

>>58924724
I'm looking at Tesla for their battery storage. They have signed a massive contract to provide megapacks for a company till 2030. They are also building a megafactory in Shanghai to go along with their existing factory in California

>>58924853
TSLA is already so overvalued though

I purchased some shares in Intel during the week, if they fall further I'll likely acquire more. Am I insane? I just don't think that their situation is quite as grim as people are making it out to be. Hell, they're trading below book price, from a value perspective alone it makes sense to me.
>>58913792
I bought at 20.8, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

jfc

you are buying the natgas dip and short fish farms? La Nina year

threadly reminder real smg is here >>>/bant/smg/

>futures

>>58925256
yeah i bought calls and am up 10x on them no big deal I'm a just a genius. was like my first trade ever as well

>>58925538
this guy used to make me laugh so much after school

what's SPY gonna close at tomorrow?

age 31... hoping to hit 500k before end of the year. anything I should do to get there?

>>58925807
cash secured puts would be a safe bet

why don’t shitcoiners just trade 0dte options on spy instead of being weirdos? It’s so much more fun and probably greater odds of success too

>>58925840
any ticker you recommend for juicy premium? NVDA? SPY?

>>58925845
UUUU seems pretty good

What's the best platform to anonymously share spreadsheets? I'd like to do some threads comparing business tax filings and value fundamentals with other anons, but i'm not sure of the best way to share it.

>>58925268
>buy speculative tokens with an assumed worth of $0
>lock them up for 5 years
I'll never understand what goes trough their minds. You might as well hang a noose in the living room and wait till you accidently stumble into the noose and hang yourself.

>>58925807
>Low volatility
>Steady gains
Your chat tells me you're already doing it right. Hold course and you'll make it.

ASTS launch on Friday 13th

Buy the rumour sell the news event, easy money to made.

>>58905031
based post

I gave up and sold my INTC call at break even price.
And then it did x5.

I can still hear the screams...

What ETF do I buy for good and stable long term dividend yield?

>>58928416
SCHD

>>58926002
don't use a spreadsheet? use a CSV (comma separated value format, which they all use on the backend) and git?

If I think SPY will go up tomorrow, why shouldn't a buy a $0.01 OTM 0dte call? If it just goes up 2-3%, my call would be ATM or ITM, and be worth 20x as much.

>>58926493
you're saying i should buy this, to be clear?

>>58926002
>>58928815
you can use a CSV with any spreadsheet software too, so if you just share the CSV any other anon can use their preferred software for it.

>>58928819
A 3% move up, by SPY, would be pretty extreme. Not unheard-of, but look back at its daily percentage changes and count how many +2% days SPY has had.

With 0dte, your underlying could go up significantly, but if it's still OTM at close then its value is exactly $0. It's a $1 lottery ticket, and I can almost guarantee the $20 payoff is less than a 1/20 chance.

>>58928845
I looked at it historically and there's about a 2% of a move between 2-3%. Not that crazy and by my calculations a 2-3% chance to 20x is a positive EV trade. but obviously this is brainlet degen behavior so i believe I'm mistaken somewhere

>your underlying could go up significantly, but if it's still OTM at close then its value is exactly $0. It's a $1 lottery ticket, and I can almost guarantee the $20 payoff is less than a 1/20 chance.
right, but i'd sell before close. even going up at all would be great, and if my napkin math is remotely accurate it'd be positive EV.. I'm gonna toss in some beer money and see what happens unless someone will step in and tell me why it's totally retarded.

the only thing i can think of is that the farther OTM 0dte calls become rapidly less valuable, so if it doesn't move enough within the first hour and a 2-3% move is out of the question it'd probably be worthless the remainder of the day. but idk.

>buy SPY 0dte @ 571c for $0.01
>SPY opens 563
>SPY goes to $564 by 10AM
>$571c now worth double????

where else do you guys go for news and discussion? I just started (I finally hit $40k saved, which I need to assume the mortgage on my place -- everything over that i'm investing). My first trade was a call on INTC below $20, which went extremely well. I was watching the chart for awhile and noticed it seemed to have sustained support around $20. If I was able, I would've done a short iron condor too, but didn't want or know how to manually build that in RobinHood.

anyway, now that that trade is done i don't know what else to do. DG is in a seemingly similar spot now but is a way worse company in a way worse sector. but this has all made me realize I need to expand my universe of stocks I'm aware of, so I have a larger pool to pick the best trades from. just not really sure how to do it, or where else to discuss this stuff..

>>58928921
>discussion?
here.
I cant do anywhere else, especially reddit, I always get banned there. I don't put up with woke dei shit.

>>58928921
Nowhere this place is for memes and making fun of central bankers.

The ideal interest rate is 100%.

People should not borrow money.

If you want to buy a thing then you wait and save up enough until you can afford it.

Deflation is fine. People will buy things when they need them. Not all purchases can be deferred forever.

We should go back to when you could buy a house with a sack of coins.

>>58928883
Two problem here.

>2% (chance) of a move between 2-3%. >my calculations a 2-3% chance to 20x is a positive EV trade.
1)Failure to calculate expected value. You need to multiply probability by payoff: in this case, 0.02 (your 2% chance) * $20 (a 20x payoff on $1 invested) = $0.40. You're paying $1 for 40 cents of EV, even if your numbers were correct.

>buy SPY 0dte @ 571c for $0.01
>SPY opens 563
>SPY goes to $564 by 10AM
>$571c now worth double????
2) Second problem: just because you can buy something for $1 doesn't mean you can sell it for $1. An option priced at $0.01 is at the minimum possible list value. It's not listed that way because the ask is $0.011 and the bid is $0.009. It's listed that way because the bid is 0 and the ask is "anything you're dumb enough to pay."
Thinking of it another way: Look at the options chain, and notice that multiple options are priced at $0.01. If an OTM option is priced at $0.01, why would another, even further OTM option also be priced at $0.01? It's because they're both so far OTM that their fair value is well below $0.01, and the only reason they're being sold for $0.01 is because the system won't let them be sold for less.

open the markets pls

>>58930265
this, am i really the only one that thinks banning loans would fix the entire economy?

Goddamn this board to hell for what it has become.

What books should I be reading up on about value investing? I want to be Warren Buffet except Pepsi not Coke.

>>58930623
>1)
Are you mistaken? The EV is positive, it's $0.40. Using these numbers and assumptions, the trade has a positive EV, so it's profitable. I did calculate EV, as mentioned prior, which is what got my attention here actually.

>2) just because you can buy something for $1 doesn't mean you can sell it for $1.
Of course, but I would assume liquidity would improve and the contract value would more accurately represent it's worth as the price of the underlying moves up and it's met with demand.

I'm willing to throw away $1-5 a day for a week or so just to see how it pans out in real time. Pic rel are my positions for next week.

I am super long and super hard on chinese stocks. criminally fucking undervalued

>>58931335
cool

>>58931305
Hey again! First off, I really appreciate how you ask honest questions and don't get defensive when someone disagrees. Seriously, it's shocking how rare that is.

>1) re: Expected Value
I think the error here is that you're not subtracting the price you paid to enter the position. So (just using the numbers and assumptions we've been using), a 2% of a x20 on $1 invested gives you a $0.40 payoff. But you had to pay $1 to buy the option in the first place, so subtract that, and the net EV on the whole transaction is -$0.60. You're losing, on average, 60 cents for each one you buy. If you don't account for that initial cost, even lotto tickets have a positive EV.

>2) re: liquidity/contract value
My argument here is that, on the far OTM side, you're starting from zero for both of those, and there's no easy way to gauge how far from non-zero you are. So, in the example you gave, when SPY goes from $563 to $564, your $571 call might double, or it might not move at all.

I'm guessing (since you said it "doubles") that in your example the $571 call was selling for $0.01 and the next lower call, at $570, was selling for $0.02. Hence, when you bought it was $8 OTM, now it's $7 OTM, and its price should be about the same as the option that's $7 OTM today. (If I'm reconstructing your logic incorrectly, sorry for making assumptions.) It's not a terrible approximation method if you're a long time from expiry or you're deep ITM, but at 0dte it starts breaking down. That 1 hour between 9am and 10am is holding a big chunk of your remaining time value, and your delta is so nearly 0 that even a big move in the underlying doesn't get you a positive exit.

But like you said, if you throw away a couple bucks each day, it's not a very expensive lesson. Heck, I could be wrong.

>>58931335
kek

Should I go all in $vix tomorrow?

>>58925845
Couldn’t you just make it with HYSA or tbill interest alone retard? Can you tell me your story on how you made that much and can’t even figure out something this basic?

>>58931496
Hey thanks man, and yeah I know this place is a cesspit but it has some gems too. that's why we're all here lol. now lets see here

>I think the error here is that you're not subtracting the price you paid to enter the position. So (just using the numbers and assumptions we've been using), a 2% of a x20 on $1 invested gives you a $0.40 payoff. But you had to pay $1 to buy the option in the first place, so subtract that, and the net EV on the whole transaction is -$0.60. You're losing, on average, 60 cents for each one you buy. If you don't account for that initial cost, even lotto tickets have a positive EV.
I still think you're mistaken here, the EV calc would be negative if the trade was unprofitable over time. The bet is included in the calculation, there's a probability of win and loss with magnitudes for each factored in. I think getting to the bottom of this is important (what the meaning of the EV calc output is), if you're right I'm wrong and vice versa. The size of the bet is a different matter, which is commonly influenced by something like kelly criterion. my degenerate thesis is that by using EV and kelly criteria together you can find both good trades and a good bet size to survive. but this is elementary and def won't work

>on the far OTM side, you're starting from zero for both of those, and there's no easy way to gauge how far from non-zero you are
I get that 100% fwiw. I saw more value in a $0.02 call because of that desu, since it's above the floor of being a meaningless value. I wanted to splurge on a $0.01 call but I can't bring myself to do it so my test for this week is a $568c. I'm still curious about how it all works out though.

>>58931939
sorry if i'm not really making sense. i think our misunderstanding is that you think the bet needs to be deducted from EV when I'm pretty sure EV is indifferent to bet size, kelly criterion deals with optimal bet sizing. ev just tells you the expected return of n bets as n approaches inf i think. here's my degen thesis
>EV > 0 == profitable given enough trades given the trader doesn't blow their acct
>kelly criterion determine the proper bet size so a trade doesn't blow their acct
>consensus is none of this matters irl cuz probability of successful trade is unknown, and both EV and kelly are dependent on this
>idea was to bet on probability of SPY movement magnitude and frequency to profit off of OTM calls or puts
>0dte otm calls that rely on certain magnitude of movement of SPY based of frequency of said events happening historically (so you can base the probability off something)

coz again I'm like hella drunk and can't really edit or type fast enough to do this gg wp re tmrw

>>58931879
No.

>>58931986
Why

>>58931335
Just make sure you pull out bud

Should I do covered calls if I am saving up for a house and don't want to loose a bunch of money right before purchase? Or should I just get 5% interest letting my money sit in an account uninvested?

>>58931981
Hell yeah drunkstocks!

Speaking properly, our EV calculation should have percentages that add up to 100%, because *something* is guaranteed to happen. In our example, we weighed a 2% chance of getting a x20, but the other 98% of the time, our option is going to $0. We paid $1 for the option in the first place, so no matter what we're short $1 from the jump. You can either find the EV without it, and then subtract the dollar at the end:
>$20 * 0.02 = $0.40
>$0 * 0.98 = $0.00
> EV w/o cost = $0.40, cost = $1
>EV after cost = $0.40 - $1.00 = -$0.60
or you can take the price into account at each possible outcome (eg. If you paid $1 for something and it's now worth $20, you've gained $19).
> ($20 - $1) * 0.02 = $0.38
> ($0 - $1) * 0.98 = -$0.98
>EV after cost = $0.38 + -$0.98 = -$0.60.
Is our disagreement because you're calculating EV based in multiplier (x20) or %-gain terms? If you are, it's easy to forget that that'd build in the assumption that the other 98% of the time, the options' value stays at $1. But it won't, of course: it'll drop to zero on expiration. Another good check might be to test your math if the option cost $2 (or $5, or $50) instead of $1. Same payout, 2% chance of being worth $20, just it costs $2 to enter rather than $1. If changing the initial cost doesn't change your answer, there's probably something wonky with your math.

I'm actually not familiar with the Kelly Criterion at all, so I'll have to read up on that tomorrow. Regardless, good luck out there!

How does stocks compare to buy to let? I've got 300k ready to invest, buy a property or dump into index funds? I don't want to do any work so the property would be fully managed by an agent

>>58930265
>>58930901
I generally think this as well. for individuals (you, me, joe) I think debt should only have a time horizon of about 1-2 years. that's as long as the average human can think ahead and even the smartest among us can never know what kind of situation, what preferences we may have in the future.

for businesses, institutions, and privately held but "collective" things debt can make a little bit of sense but only when the return is clear, low risk and socially beneficial. I can maybe see debt timescales on the horizon of 4-5 years, but not much beyond that.

but going up another scale to governments, I don't think debt should be accessible again. Taxes are collected and services are rendered from it, nothing more.

>>58932657
taking this one step further, I think the world we've constructed is too abstracted, too complex for 99% of humanity. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive for a humanity who can operate as a polymath across all aspects of their life, but its not the case now and we need a system that mostly works for people. Simplify, reduce debt, make economies more local, make communities more local

fuck you nvidia, earnings beaten and this bitch drops from $128 to $116, im liquidated as fuck

>>58931269
>The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham
This is the only one book you need, even Warren Buffet endorses it saying its the best book written for investing.

>>58933535
>what is priced in
idiots like you provide the exist liquidity for the pumpers on wallstreetbets

SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SELL

ASMB stock ladies!
Trial results will be sucessful

HOLY SHIT SOXL THROATIES

soxl baggies kek

I just bought a Put option on Bank of America. All of my calls are getting rekt. I’m such a fuck up..

i forgot september is AIDs

>>58934495
It stings now, but you'll learn from this and you'll recover.

Take some time to get outside, go for a hike, watch the sun set, drink a glass of wine. There's more to life than money.

>>58903732
just came here to say DAMN

look at that market dump like -10 and -15 all over

>>58931986
>always do the opposite of what /biz/ says

>>58916448

>Entire portfolio red except for Maxeon Solar
I-I’ll be proven a brilliant investor with the passage of enough time, right?

Taking profits never hurt anybody
>qqq puts from last thursday
>soxl puts from friday

DUMBFUCK SOXL THROATIES
>THROATING EVERY BA-ACK
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Convince me on green rocks boys, I have a good feeling I can swing trade this again.

>>58934599
I haven’t learned though.. the past 6 months have been brutal. I’ve sold options at losses just to see them rocket up a week or two later and I’ve bought options just to see them plummet almost immediately.

>>58934970
You did buy soxl calls for dirt cheap, yes?

>>58934997
I did.
we will see what happens, but I'm assuming there will be a decent recovery over the week like Aug 5th.
ATM call on soxl at open was 0.08 at close

Occasional PSA that all the most profitable posters moved to >>>/bant/smg months ago. You should follow suit.

>>58934970
I won't try to give advice without knowing your strategy, but if it isn't working for you, take a step back and reevaluate what you're doing. Are you taking on excessive risk trying to chase high returns? Are you trading emotionally? Are you chasing trends that have already been played out?
Whatever it is, try to lengthen your timeframe and recommit to fundamentals. You can do this.

What the fuck is happening today?

>SOXL down 23%
>NVDA down 10%

I lost 6k today. Fuck is going on?

>>58934997
No, but you posted a screenshot of TQQQ not Soxl. Should I get some?

Niggers and jannoids tongue my huge anus

>>58935136
I haven’t been making single trades putting up way more money than I can afford to lose at any given time, I have been trading emptionally. And even though my trades individually have been small, my losses over time have added up. From 2016 - 2019, when I first started investing I was doing really well. Everything I was in was getting gains. Since 2021 my investments overall have stagnated despite the market continuing to go up..

>>58935248
It’s over.

>>58920270
get 4chan x retard

Anybody short Ubisoft?

These DEIslops just keep tanking one after the other.

>>58935248
NVDA is being investigated by the feds for an anti trust case, they think Nvidia is going to have a monopoly on AI before they even have a product out.

>>58935720
>>58935248
Should I not buy the dip?

>>58935734
It will dip further and you will look stupid for not buying the deeper dip.

>>58935744
Canceling put order. What about SOXL? What should I buy?

Thank god I'm out of nvda
I'm gonna go buy index funds

>>58933553
Thank you, anon

Hey, tourist from /g/ here.
Should I buy nvidia now that it dropped like a rock?
I'm playing with AI in my free time a lot, but I'm very conflicted on the tech's quality.

DGRO or SCHD?

>>58936430
you just gave a top signal. Its like schrodengers cat if you buy or sell what the stock does next.

>>58925268
SAVA is the most fascinating thing I'm holding right now. It's going to 0 or 2000 and that's fucked wild

>>58936451
>you just gave a top signal
What, me being a tourist, or the tech being crap? Genuinely curious.

>>58936484
It's not the tech, its the valuation.

>>58936430
No. It's priced in. Buy low cost ETF's.

>>58935248
>>58935720
Is it wise to buy UVIX?

>>58934997
Why buy calls instead of short puts? You're out of the money unless it hits $67.

>>58936623
>Buy low cost ETF's.
Like what? SOXS?

>>58936700
svxy
vxy
and
vixx are the ones you buy

that one is too random

>>58936734
i mean VIXY and VXX and SVXY

>>58936736
Thanks. Putting this in.

Roth IRA Divindwnd growth portfolio update

>>58937226

>>58937229
Allocations
>SGOV
Short term treasures, yields 5% at the moment. I park a cash position here until something I like goes on sale
>AMT
Just DRIPping and adding $15 biweekly.
>ASO
Newer position, yield is small but dividend growth is robust.
>DGRO
Planning on making this my core ETF so I’ll be adding $100 biweekly for the next couple of years
>DUK
Newer position, bullish on utilities to fuel ever expanding electricity demand
>JNJ
Newer position. Plan on buying this biweekly for the foreseeable future
>NEE
Same as DUK
>O
Bought a ton of this in the low 50s. DRIPping monthly and throwing $7 at it biweekly
>OXY
Newer position, if management can continue to clear debt this should be a solid company

PEP
One of my forever holds. Will continue adding this biweekly
>SCHD
Hoping to build up a nice stack of this
>V
My favorite individual stock. Keeping the contribution at $40 biweekly for the foreseeable future. Love the dividend growth and low payout ratio
>WM
Newer position that I plan on holding forever. Slowly buying biweekly

>>58926434
>low volatility
>Lost 50% in 2021-2022

>>58935460
>These DEIslops just keep tanking one after the other.

Take the culture war shit elsewhere - shorting videogame companies of any format is free money.

Same with entertainment generally. It just doesn't make money and that's why it's become so much more enshitted in recent years as companies do any trick possible to generate returns.

>Entire market shits the bed from the very start of September

It's weird is all. Normally it doesn't get this bad until middle-end of the month when institutional investors come back from holiday who then refuse to put money into the market until the December bounce. I've lost a lot of money because I thought the high-mark would be the US rate cut announcement but the whole thing is now pre-empted by fast shooters.

All-in-all this feels totally vibes driven and you can tell it because everything is getting heemed. I think if you're sitting on cash at the moment then you can throw a dart at any stock and make a decent return by the middle of the month while I sit on my bags in pain.

>>58937504
I wanna grab some more NVDA but I'm waiting to see if it drops below 100.

I'm feeling the heat VFV bros

I had a dream where bitcoin was 25k.

How long until Nvidia is at the state of Intel 20% or does it need to reach 25%?

>>58937513
Closed legs don't get fed, Anon. We both know that Friday will be the rebound when people sober up.

>>58937752
>Why it matters

Why can't they just say because their balls will get squeezed by the regulator for it? I don't give a shit about some bleeding heart logic - I want the reason that impacts the bottom-line.

>>58937378
That's exactly what I mean. In the first half of the graph, it's very volatile (spiky). Then after taking those big losses it doesn't just recover, it goes up smoothly, with far smaller spikes up or down. To me that indicates a change in strategy from high-risk gambling into a patient, steady-gains approach. Something to be commended, given how often you see the opposite.

>>58937235
>>58937233
>>58937229
>>58937226

Thanks for your portfolio breakdown, I'll look into parking money in SGOV

I've been holding PEP and V for years, solid returns, very safe

DOLLAR GENERAL IS A BUY ON THE MONTHLY AND 3 MONTH
NOT A DRILL.

Load up your calls if you dare.

Everything is playing out like 08, but nothing ever happens. No more black swans are even possible in the current year, right?

ASMB ladies, be ready!

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>>58939165