/biz/ - Business & Finance

I wish i started sooner with stacking
please tell me this is enough

>>58903849

>>58903863
It sure is more than just an ass load I'll tell you that much!

love them engelhards
simple as

Mods made an accidental stinky

>>58903894

was it some accidental fuck up? at first i thought it was just this thread lol.>>58903894

>jannys nuke /biz/
>gold spot is down for the first time since today's open

>>58903938
Known casualties /a/, /aco/, /an/, /b/, /bant/, /biz/, /h/, /c/, /ck/, /co/, /cm/, /d/, /lit/, /3/, /diy/, /fit/, /mlp/, /trash/, /vip/

>/biz/
>/lit/
>/fit/
>/h/
>/b/
>/bant/
All of them got hit

>>58903952
And /3/ which is the real crime

>>58903882
i wish i had more fractionals right now or silver coins
I can buy a loaf of bread with a 1/4 pince of silver but one whole ounce of gold is not enough to buy the bakery and way to much for a loaf of bread
It just isnt as divisible as other options
They sure do look nice though

>>58903970
'Tis a thing of beauty!

>>58903970
yup that's what silver's good for
worst case scenario tho u can shave off some gold flakes to pay for cheaper stuff
that's how i saw one guy pay for a haircut in venezuela

>>58904017
>yup that's what silver's good for
It's the only thing silver's good for.

80% gold 20% silver is the way to go because you'll have more silver than you can ever spend and enough gold to maintain your wealth.

>>58904017
>shave off some gold flakes
I know these are mass produced bullion coindls and that they have no value besides there metal content but o don't know if i could actually do that
This is one of the most beautiful pieces of art I have ever seen ane damaging it seems like an absolute waste to me
Maybe I trade one or two for an pick up truck and make my escape to an remote cabin in the woods where no one will find me

Why is it that when the markets open nothing really happens until the west starts waking up the next day?

>>58904028
silver is good for much more than that, but ok

>>58904037
China and Russia are done buying and are maxxed out. Prices will fall on profit taking.

>>58904034
you feel that way now but it'll wear off in time
metal's metal. scrapin off some flakes is ok if it's for a good cause

Hiro currently lives in Paris and the Telegram CEO arrest happened in France btw. He needs to move like asap.

>>58903849
>JMB but not Liberty Coin in OP
wtf is this bullshit

>>58904110
its an older pasta,

>>58903938
>was it some accidental fuck up?
That's what they're telling us.

>>58904121
I'd like to believe it was just a fuckup but so much weird shit has been happening in general lately. Somehow Trump getting shot in the fucking face is being memoryholed.

Obligatory but how will these effect the economy?

>>58904172
If BRICS gets rolling it's either war or the USD is fucked. The dollar is only backed by military might since Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. The dollar as it is today is basically crypto. It's fake, its value isn't real

>>58904180
Anon everything knows this already thats why where in this thread to begin with
What i want to know how is the current happening affecting the economy?

>>58904180
>BRICS
Retard take. BRICS is irrelevant. They aren't buying gold, that's a myth. They aren't making a gold backed currency, another myth.

Please just stop this boomer-tier shit.

>>58904189
>BRICS is a myth
You don't think Saudi Arabia, China and Russia own shitloads of gold?

>>58904046
>Hiro currently lives in Paris
is this true? ahah what a retard

a pirate needs a chest

>>58904539
That's lovely, I always wanted to use a wooden chest to store my precious instead of some filthy cardbox. Problem is that I'd have to dig a bigger hole.

>>58904539
thats sweet Anon i only have this shitty box i got for 5 bucks at a flee market
It doesn't even fit most of my stuff
I

>>58904590
forgot picrel

>>58904590
>>58904592
Im looking for something a bit better than that
Something like picrel but a bit more practicall
Maybe with a handel so that i can easily transport it in an emergency and idealy some more compartments to seperate Gold from Silver and different fractionals and whatnot but i found nothing like it online

Drunk bought 2 Buffalos for $70 over spot.

Fuck it.

>>58903849
I am planning on selling my silver and swapping it form gold. Where is the best place go get the best prices? All local bullion dealers are trying to rip me off, and I am mostly selling ASE. I live in Spain.

>>58905062
>Where is the best place go get the best prices?
r/pmsforsale or maybe some other p2p sales site
>all local bullion dealers are trying to rip me off
Avoid shops ran by boomers. Almost impossible but they are the problem. Tribal, arrogant, rude, only give good deals to other boomers they know.

>>58905082
I am going on a business trip to US in October and was thinking of bringing my stack with me to sell it in the US. I know the ASEs fetch a higher price there. The only thing worrying me is the airport customs in US.

I've decided to buy an ounce of gold every year starting now
Just noticed the recent price surge and ATH
Am I going to get BTFO'd if I buy now?

this was the tiny luther. looks like it should be pretty nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LE2j95u1u0

finally got a full pic, favourite is either manx angel or 100oz britannia

>>58905279
is this a medal?

>>58905285
Nah its just a 1oz coin but I cant find much details online about it, pobjoy mint do most Isle of Man stuff but I cant find this one

>>58905239
You are not late, Gold is only going up now. One day you will play in the big league.

>>58905371
damn

>>58905279
Based gold enjoyer

>>58905371
neat. and i didn't realize those were larger than the usual 32.whatever mm size. i might have to add those to the pick up list.

What happened to the last thread lads, was there a glitch in the matrix?

>>58905456
Several boards had their catalogs deleted last night and the mods apologized. Still very sus.

>>58905279
Nice pic, is that royal mint gold bar a 50 grammer?

>>58905476
100 grammer ayy

>>58905518
>>58905518
>100 grammer

>>58905279
fantastic stack

>>58905239
My old boss bought his grandkids an ounce of gold for their birthdays every year. Some of them are getting close to being in their 20's and I'm so jealous.

>>58905600
they'll sell it all at two-thirds its value for some consoomer junk

>>58905613
He holds it for them so that doesn't happen

>>58905613
just cuz your kids are retarded doesn't mean his are

i forgot the label the box express again, like a total moron, and they already have it checked in.

>>58905613
>iq in ID while fudding
Priceless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D2tbbtsq1o

>>58905720
>schizo searching for patterns in IDs
meds

Cmon.... stay above 30 you piece of shit.

>>58905467
What did they clumsily try to hide?

>>58905320
>>58905285
>is this a medal?
Probably. Bank commemorative.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166437306536

>>58905905
sound

>>58905859
>30+ = Bank Killer

They cant let that shit happen.

Lets say you geti into a genuine dangerous Situation
Maybe your house is on Fire and you try to escape with all your Gold or maybe the Feds are afteryou and you have to go on the run for a while would a Aluminum Briefcase be a good mean to Hold all your metals?
Its relatively sturdy and conceals all your stuff without drawing to much attention from bystanders
Should i go with these or am i stupid?

>>58906245
>maybe the Feds are afteryou and you have to go on the run for a while
that would never happen to me anon, i don't know about you. using your precious time preparing for schizo shit like this is not productive

>>58906245
>you try to escape with all your Gold
One of gold's specific advantages is that you can fit a hefty sum in your pocket. Do you really have so much you need a case at all? That'd just be adding bulk for no good reason. It's a different story for silver but going on the lamb is when you want gold anyway.
>Its relatively sturdy and conceals all your stuff without drawing to much attention
Maybe at an airport or in a business park. Beyond that, people will take notice of it.
>Should i go with these or am i stupid?
You're kinda stupid. As poked at above it will depend on where you plan to hide, but a Jansport backpack will be all but invisible in most places and you can put whatever storage you were using inside of that. An aluminum case though? Not so much.

>>58906296
what if i have a lot of silver coins
i cant store that many of them in my regular trousers

Funny enough silver is exactly why I came to /biz today. I don’t know where to get it does anyone have a decent source for buying silver dollars at a fair rate?

>>58906333
i just got this. i can see having a reasonable sized case for gold and then silver you like the most you could grab if need be

>>58906341
try reading the OP mate

>>58906333
>what if i have a lot of silver coins
Keep enough to grease some palms along the way and leave the rest. Anything you do take should be able to fit in that same backpack along with whatever creature comforts you bring. Again, legging it is not silver's forte and I don't think any kind of hand case is likely to be below notice unless you're female and have a clutch.

>>58906345
i don tknow this looks like it would only work if all your stuff comesm in a copin holder and not if they are just loose

>>58906400
>copin holder
kek. yeah, this one is specifically for cope holders, but you can probably fit those square cringe capsules in there too

>>58905371
>>58905279
>>58903882
blimey some of you motherfuckers are actually going to buy whole suburbs of women when SHTF, rip to your penises

I am pretty bummed because I won't be able to buy PMs for two months. I might buy one or two ounces of siver anyway just not to feel so guilty.
dammit, things were going so well....

>>58906445
i know that feel. I've spent too much on PMs recently and have a reminder set for November 1st, the next time I can buy more. kek

>>58906370
>Keep enough to grease some palms along the way and leave the rest.
Yeah. No one needs more than one or two tubes of silver eagles or rounds tops, lol. Unless they’re some kind of numismatic collector guy.

>>58906458
>you only need two tubes of silver dude
kys, silver fuddie

>>58906489
Silver does nothing to grow nor even maintain one’s wealth. Astronomical premiums even compared to gold fractionals at the same price point.

It’s simple economics. Stacking lots of silver is inefficient other than to have a shit ton of silver. Sorry!

>>58906498
>Silver does nothing to grow nor even maintain one’s wealth
Yeah, except oh wait it's the exact opposite.

>>58906417
Nah I just want one loyal wife.

>>58906498
weird, i guess i imagined all the silver i bought for $15 an ounce

>>58906445
It'll be okay. Just be patient, fren.

>>58906458
I didn't want to imply that at all. Silver's great, stacking some is a good idea. I still think that the moment you need to be mobile it becomes dead weight though. Cash is probably the better option at that point unless you're also in a developed SHTF situation, but this is /pmg/.

>>58906531
Yeah that’s nearly a decade ago. Now it costs more and has less of an upside.

Retarded to stack silver at a $20+ spot price point.

>>58906560
if you need to go live innawoods like a schizo felon on the run, yeah, silver probably isn't so great. for every other purpose, it's awesome.

>>58906565
>decade
try 4 years ago, sweetie

>>58906526
fair enough. wouldn't be wise to tell her about the stacks out the gate though, not unless you'd want to turn her into a literal gold digger

will I make it? pic is 3 months of collecting, going to grab a load of 1oz silver when I can

>>58906585
My only point is you’d have done better with gold. Silver is just the poor man’s stacking option.

>>58906592
>will I make it? pic is 3 months of collecting

>>58906560
I have about 2 pounds of silver and 1.6 ounces of gold and a very expensive ruby I plan on buying at least 20 pounds of silver and 1 pound of gold in the next years, god willing.
gold is great for its portability and is also very easy to sell for a good price. normies love gold.

>>58906592
buy coins not bars
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mal1bdJlDME

>>58906626

>normies love gold

one of the main reasons I got into stacking. current day normies love gold. even a thousand years ago, your average consanguineous yeoman normie would still love gold. its value and longetivity go hand in hand.

>>58906638
same thing applies to precious stones, the y are loved by everybody and easy to carry but unlike gold they are very difficult to test authenticity/determine value. for instance my ruby ring is 260 years old and has a 5 kt birmanian ruby on it, it is worth 10~15 grand but it may take you a few months (maybe a year) to find a buyer.

>>58906341
There's a "Dealers" tab on this spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11oZ4X8Gkgv3oGd_BunwFAHRhS92cfocIcmHzVK1D5s4

>>58903865
That's a beautiful cock.

>>58906592
are you gonna make it? I hope so, just keep on stacking, fren.

>>58904117
fixed spelling error

>>58906595
but you're wrong? i made more with my silver than gold during the same time period.

>>58906821
>made money
you sold?
>wel, no
you made no money

>>58906791

>>58906791
>>58906838
I love it and want a pair badly.
>>58906832
Correct. Unless he’s a dealer then of course he’s into moving silver at high premiums.

>>58906832
gold and silver are money
they're just worth more fiat currency today than a few years ago

>>58906592
>wouldn't be wise to tell her about the stacks out the gate though
When I meet someone in the future at some point after a bunch of dates and I feel a level of trust, I'd want to show her my Swiss coins. But the core stack would remain secret for a long, long time.

>>58906929
>But the core stack would remain secret for a long, long time.
Until you need to use it or you die would be good timing to reveal the main stack.

>>58906929
>>58906947
>not trusting your partner
that's why you're an incel

>>58906962
Sure, but trusting them is also a good way to lose half of your stack, and not necessarily because you did anything. The other guy also just mentioned building trust, hard to fault that.

>>58906962
cuck beta detected

>>58906962
not unless she has a stack of her own

women will not understand the value of something they dont have or own themselves

>>58907008
My brother had a stack of rolled constitutional silver and his wife found them and guess what she did

>>58905239
You might be better off buying fractional Gold every month (at higher premiums) than save up and buy 1 Oz (at lower premiums). It entirely depends on what the price does over the next year and beyond. Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G2HhLmGHfM

>>58906947
>Until you need to use it
Yeah absolutely.
>>58906962
That would imply I've never had sex. Had it multiple times a week during my last relationship. Haven't dated anyone since who was worth the time to have intimate moments w/.
>>58907008
>not unless she has a stack of her own
If I got engaged I'd put half an ounce of gold and at least 50toz of silver into 'our' stack. That is assuming I'd be dating a woman wise enough to also have bought silver in the past.
Someday I'll find my unicorn.

>>58907018
>his wife found them and guess what she did
Got divorced? I wouldn't get married without a prenup. Done.

Mail call.

>>58907027
lmao no. her silver is her silver. your silver is "our" silver.

>>58907039
>boomer mentality
Unacceptable. Women who 'know their worth' are always overvalued. But I'm a man who has worth and wealth.

>>58907018
Please say they made it to a coins shop instead of being used at face.

>>58906962
This.

My wife encourages me to buy new coins so that my "dragon hoard" gets bigger. She doesn't really give a shit beyond that.

>>58907100
her tune might change when it becomes apparent what you're actually in possession of

>>58907100
literally pig butchering
she's biding her time

>>58907100
That's the point of the joint stack. To build it together. But it's foolish to have everything I've worked so hard for immediately be shared because the government is involved with marriages.
My ex gf and I lived together for 8 months. She agreed to pay for half of the bills and my mortgage. I never asked her to. When she left she said "I wouldn't have spent this money if I knew it would end like this." I said nothing. My mortgage is my mortgage. When I have another live in gf in the future I wouldn't want her paying half of my mortgage. Splitting utilities is fair though since it makes incentive to keep costs down.

>>58907127
Yeah, I read your first post and you definitely shouldn't tell someone you're not fully married to. But if you ever get fully married, there's no avoiding it unless your marriage is a sham already built on a mountain of lies.

>>58907069
She took them to the bank and deposited them.
Seriously.

>>58907146
>getting married
>Ever

Fucking why? You're literally flipping a coin heads/tails to getting a divorce at some point top kek.

>>58907127
>My ex gf and I lived together for 8 months. She agreed to pay for half of the bills and my mortgage. I never asked her to. When she left she said "I wouldn't have spent this money if I knew it would end like this." I said nothing.
And now you spend every day living in a house that reminds you of your ex. You played yourself.

>>58907151
I knew what to expect and still I am disappointed. Who would even bother going to the bank to do that? Don't answer, I know the answer to that one too.

when pirates comin
should be soon
I'm thinkin October

>>58906531
I started buying silver when it was $8. I'm still buying now.

>>58903863
Its never too late, just keep stacking

>>58903849
i would like to know what /biz thinks about having Gold backed cryptocurrencies like Apraemio and Aurus is doing.
i think we have finallly found that stable edge.

>>58907343
Why not just have the gold?

Any thoughts on silver ytd?

>>58907146
>But if you ever get fully married, there's no avoiding it
Yeah that's fair, I get it. I'm also less worried about a significant other knowing about my PMs and more worried about my multitude of firearms I own.
>>58907158
>And now you spend every day living in a house that reminds you of your ex
I bought it without her. She moved in a year after I owned it. At least she was responsible enough to pay off her student debt before moving in together. In hindsight she wasn't great to begin with. I pitty her when I think of her, which is very rare these days. I wouldn't want her back even if someone offered me thousands of ounces of gold. I can do better.

what's better to stack: gold or mold?

>>58907357
Just don't catch a cold when you're old, it's much worse from what I'm told.

>>58903863

Keep going. You need to stack until a huge vault is required to store your immense wealth.

>>58907353
Too much. It's an election year.
Save up and enjoy the dip after the election.
Or tell me to fuck off and eat up people shilling that silver will be $500/oz because of a non-existent silver battery people are shilling.

>>58907408
>until a huge vault is required
My goal is to not have a custom built house, but a custom built vault w/ a house built around it.

>>58907343
/biz/ thinks you're a faggot for associating with gold. /pmg/ thinks you're a faggot for associating with crypto. Lose/lose

>>58907448
>muh prez election matters so much
doubt it really desu

>>58907448
>>58907517
The more things change, the more they stay the same. It's a midwit test to think it matters who wins.

>>58907353
it might jump EOY, or like >>58907448 said it might dump sometime before it catches up to gold. it seems theres more and more shills that hate and promote silver.
>lol gold is the only PM to stack! silvers heabyy.
>lol silver is totally gonna $1000 and ima buy f00d wit it! duhhh.
both gold and silver are great, any PM worth more than a penny is a good hold rather than pretend paper money.

>>58907642
silver is the more volatile of the two, it makes sense that it's got more fudfags and shillers

>>58907517
Buddy, I'm getting old and I've seen this dog and pony show too many times.
The elections don't matter, but the noise it generates causes the price of PMs to go up ... until it doesn't
Then they fall.
But don't look at the fall.
Look at promo code _______ and use it.
It's the best promo code.
Your dollar will be worthless.
Use the promo code and buy a gram of PM
PMs are going up so buy at all time highs.
All time highs are the new ground floor, so give me all of your money.
Silver isn't speculative. It can only go up. Buy now.
It used to be $15/oz.
Now it's $30/oz
That means it'll be $200/oz tomorrow
...

Some content

>>58907799
I hate Chuck on my shinies and Niue makes overpriced shinies for tourists.

>>58907799

>>58907151
some spousal correction is in order

Asahi's will be the menial currency of the future

does the government watch you buy silver? I buy everything I currently have in cash at the dealer.

>>58907882
If you buy online they probably keep tabs. Buying with cash at an LCS they don't really have the logistics to do that.

>>58907890
I thought so, I don't like the idea of buying shit online and shipping it to mine if its supposed to be a discreet store of wealth in the first place.

>>58907894
It's still cheaper most of the time to buy online and the government is so incompetent that I really wouldn't worry about buying online either honestly.

An image for the overly sensitive and/or superstitious...

>>58907907
I don't trust the Australian government

>>58906489
that design is crazy

>>58907961
Oh well first of all why didn't you warn us about 9/11 and second how much do they tax you there to buy silver? Is eBay a workaround there?

>>58907969
nigga i was born after 9/11

capital gains tax is a flat 50%, reduced to 25% if held for more than a year, not that i plan to sell anytime soon.

ebay could be a workaround, but the authenticity of pms isn't guaranteed, and shipping costs from outside the continent are retarded enought to waylay any possible discounts

>>58907951
Nice. There was an interesting thread the other day about bells and how they were purposely destroyed during and after WW2.

>>58907976
>born after 9/11
Your parents owe you an apology

>>58907999
checked and correct

>>58907882
>does the government watch you buy silver?
No.

>>58906526
based

>>58907990
link?

Silver over $30 again
NY Je*s getting ready to hit the tamp button

>>58908610
More like the chinks pushing prices down to stock up physical and boost their military.

>>58908648
where's the schizo anon who thinks China only buys fake paper gold

>>58908610
Based chews

>>58908610
I didn't know the New York Jets had that much influence over the silver market.

>>58908293
Is platinunm really worth stacking?
It seems to flactuate to much to be a stable to proctect from Inflation

>>58908872
platinum is a meme, like all metals not named gold or silver. i guess you can buy it for funsies once you got a substantial stack of the good stuff

The (((system))) is going full rogue lads, getting blocked buying silver through ebay now i am.

>>58908806
The more you know

he took a new picture. thinking this is not actually UNC, right? annoying

>>58903849
>>58903863
>>58903885
>several boards wiped, including /biz/ and /bant/
>/pmg/ threads recreated in /biz/ and /bant/
>youtube links deleted
>massive silver deficit section deleted
>"mods are dumb tee hee"
Here are the links
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k

>>58909129 Previous pasta
>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/ (US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

Previous Thread:

I was watching a video on how Gold was made and i was wondering can you buy Metals at premium if you work in a refinery/Mint?

gold and silver sui stacks?

>>58909186
that video should tell you why buying at spot is not happening... it's a shit ton of work from ore in the ground to coin/bar in your hand.

>>58909337
1oz AU and 100oz AG

but once you get that, the insatiable desire to stack more begins

>>58909337
Silver, 367toz. If you're aiming for a 1:100 GSR, then 3.5toz+ gold. That's what I'd go w/.
>>58909356
>insatiable desire to stack
I like your sophisticated vocabulary kind friend ;)

>>58909337
20oz gold 1k silver

>>58909543
that's a make it stack, not a sui stack

>>58909547
That's like your opinion, man

>>58904580
>Euros
Ngmi

>>58904600
Look for cigar humidors. They can be very elegant for reasonable cost - less than two ozt silver. They won't have the handles though. You could add one, and a locking mechanism too.

>>58909772
don't cheap out on a $10 one, that's gonna be so flimsy

>>58904600
https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-6400/Parts-Cabinets/Steel-Compartment-Box-24-Slot

got a nice 830gAg for a _negative_ premium yesterday. it's 50% but for UK-untaxed fractional silver can't be beaten.
Unrelated question: how much silver/gold did a house go for in 1922-23 Weimar Germany?

>>58908872
>It seems to flactuate to much to be a stable to proctect from Inflation
In fact that's not why you get platinum. Once you have enough gold and silver, it can be fun to add some spice to your stack with a bit of platinum (and maybe palladium next).

Note that platinum is more scarce than gold, at least the one that we can mine; it also has unique properties and multiple industrial uses. This is why it can spike wildly, like when it surpassed gold. I think it's very unlikely that it will have a huge drop in the next years, with higher chance to increase. It just can't give you the safety of gold.

this looks to be a strong contender for ms64 or up to my eyes. agree?

>>58910099

>>58910063
>palladium
isnt palladium radioactive ?

Thinking of getting this.

Also brand new to metals, about how much extra should I pay over the spot price? Of course the people selling need to make some money, but the spot price on 1 oz of silver is $30 and some others are asking for nearly double.
1 gram of gold is worth $80 and a lot of places are asking for $100-115, is that reasonable?

>>58904180
correct me if I'm wrong but dont most crypto coins, for example bitcoin, have a set amount of currency that can ever exist? That's a bit different than fiat currencies like USD, which are inherently inflationary.


but yeah, it's pretty wild that the entire world uses faith in the USD as the reserve currency in general. I strongly believe that will not and can not last. Russia got off swift and said FU to the dollar, I think other countries can, too. But in the meantime they will keep using USD as much as needed

>>58910158

When we getting passed $32.50 bros?

Does anyone ever pay capital gains taxes on gold sales in the US?
Apparently dealers don't have to report sales of most bullion coins, and the reportable ones aren't even reportable by dealers unless you sell over 25 at once.
So why would anyone report gold sales on their taxes?

>>58910168
>buying soulless chinkshit for Fung Mung to give to his 928374 mothers in law and 1 child on Abstract Concept Day #22 before pulling up his vest to slurp pig foot noodles rested on his pot belly
Chinese zodiac coins are a great way to pay Brit premiums for the most uninspired disks since the philharmonic.

>>58910158
in general, fractionals (anything less than 1 ozt) are not a good deal, and the premium margin is much higher than it would be for coins of 1 ozt. (But do you research! I got a fractional 2016 golden panda (China) for very close to spot once [I was in China at the time], so it is possible to get fractionals with low premium margins, just fairly uncommon)

Sovereigns (coins that are minted by a government) are generally the most loved, due to being widely identifiable and standardized. Some even have anti-counterfeiting features. The 1 ozt size makes it easy to stack for gold. For silver you can do bars too, or get a monster box (500 coins).

I mean if you're a billionaire you can stack gold bars but that's probably not any of us here, statistically speaking.

Basically, the goal is to minimize premiums while acquiring the most easily identifiable and genuine high quality metal, for the fewest dollars as possible. That's what a good stacker maximizes first, with a secondary emphasis placed on aesthetics and numismatic (collector's) value.

>>58910232
What do you mean buy stack? Just buying and holding a lot?

>>58910043
20-40 oz approx

>>58910139
Palladium itself is not, and is perfectly fine to handle.

>>58910158
Long story short, lower denominations and limited or collectible pieces like that usually come with bigger premium. I always advise to buy only a few of those fancy ones, while stacking to the most convenient bullion you can afford.

Many 1 oz silver coins are sold fairly close to spot (excluding VAT). Ever more so with mass produced gold coins like Krugerrands or Sovereigns, or bars starting from 50 or 100 grams, where premiums are easily under 3%.

Buy that one if you like the design, but then go for junk silver (the most convenient) or more common 1 oz coins like Maples, Kangaroos, Britannias, Eagles etc.

>>58910204
because the money goes into your bank account and if you get audited (random), the IRS will literally act like your parents and you'll have to justify every transaction ever and say you paid tax on it

They literally just hired 87k new IRS agents to do this to you. Also they have guns now.

>>58910251
yes, precisely. buying and holding, until you eventually sell or trade it for something else (unless you really just want to look at it your whole life or pass it to your descendants)
It's an asset, much like real estate or equity.
Maybe the USD monetary system will go tits up in our lifetime, and all those paper silver IOUs will come chasing an impossibly small size of real metals, sending the price skyrocketing and we will all be rich fat cats that made it, or not.

>>58910251
yes, precisely. buying and holding, until you eventually sell or trade it for something else (unless you really just want to look at it your whole life or pass it to your descendants)
It's an asset, much like real estate or equity.
Maybe the USD monetary system will go tits up in our lifetime, and all those paper silver IOUs will come chasing an impossibly small size of real metals, sending the price skyrocketing and we will all be rich fat cats that made it, or not.

>>58910277
Another retard question
The silver this is made out of is worth ~$30 but is it legally worth $1 or something? If I trade it in at a bank would I get $1, but if I trade it in at a bullion exchange thing would I get $30? And what about foreign ones? I've seen some Australian ones for one dollar.
Would it be better then to get one that doesn't have a value on it?

>>58910099
it looks better, scratches wise, also is that a planchet defect above their heads angled to the left mirrored on the back to the right of the crown?

>>58910394
Coins that have a currency on the face will be worth more than rounds like Asahi's in general

>>58910394
It's to do with no VAT or taxes on currency. The value printed has nothing to do with its actual value, just a way to circumvent different laws in different countries.

>>58910394
>buy some gold
>ASE tube out of stock
>silver back in stock 5 minutes after I order
>it's no longer tax free because it's not a $1,000 order
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>58910470
Why?

>>58910537
people are likely to trust them more
but at the end of the day we're just talking about a small premium of difference. silver's silver.

>>58910554
I dont think anyone cares really if its from a reputable Mint
Asahi is a reputable mint so i reckon most people trust that their Coins are genuine 1Oz Silver products and not a cheap knock off

If its something else like one of those Pepe Meme coins here on /biz/ sometimes than yea i wouldnt believe yout that thats an genuine Silver Coin without doing some testing on it first

I think this could be the week where $30 becomes the floor

>>58910554
>>58910394
So just to be sure. Even though the face value is one dollar I can still easily sell it for around the spot price?

>>58910679
I sure hope it starts moving like everyone is saying. I'm a patient mother fucker but I traded seven ounces of gold for a monster box of silver eagles in 2020 and I still haven't really broke even.

>>58910697
yes, but if you live with a shithead they could go take your $11 coin and spend it at a convenience store for a bag of chips so I prefer silver rounds with no face value.

>>58910723
What kind of shitheads do you live with?

>>58910712
>he didn't sell when dealers were paying $31 and $32 for ASEs

>>58910730
my kids, they're getting old enough for it to no longer be an issue so I'm more open to pre-1965 coins

snagged pic related at lunch today, will prob go back and get more tomorrow

>>58910756
Even youre Kids should know that a silve coin would fetch like 30 dollars at the neares Coin Store instead of just selling them at face value

>>58910731
I did the math at the time and I could have traded for nine ounces of gold at the absolute best g/s ratio

>>58910833
I generally operate my life with Murphys law in mind when it's convenient.

Reminder

https://youtu.be/BhiY7QVfdSc

>>58910756
Why does pre-1965 matter?

>>58910866
1964 was the last year quarters dimes and half dollars were made from 90%silver.

half dollars continued to be made from 40% silver for a few more years but dimes and quarters are made almost entirely of zince since then

>>58910837
We told the resident eggfag that ASEs were a bad investment with those massive premiums in 2021/22. Should have liquidated them then. I don't think they will ever go back to $10 premiums vs $2/$3 for other fine silver.

>>58910200
That's a nice round. Where'd you get it?

>>58910873
did the make the Dimes bigger to compensate for the loss or did the go latestage roman empire and just issued copper?

>>58910914
not even copper, they are made out of a zinc alloy, they're fiat. Nickels are the only coin made out of mostly copper now ironically enough

>>58910914
quarters have been the same size for over a century. they've adjusted the amount of other metals to compensate for removing silver.

>>58910490
>Still have to pay VAT in the UK on Silver Britannias with a face value that are actual legal tender

Stacking silver in the UK is absolutey shite boys. Although, you do get that extra premium back when u sell on eBay or wherever cuz that higher price just becomes the "normal" price.

is anyone else having trouble getting pages to load on this piece of shit website using a vpn? a recent issue that started in the last couple of days

>>58910991

Not really

>>58911189
baka pass user.

>>58910919
fun fact the 1 cent copper coin is more expensive wore the amrican mint than 1 cent
So we are losing money from making money thats how bad Inflation is right now

>>58910712
damn how much did you get them for? sooner or later eagles are gonna go up. i dont think anyone is sure what number exactly though, but if silver goes up so do eagles.

>>58911469
Exact same reason why we went from 90% Ag to plated in 1965.

>>58911469
So if melting down pennies is illegal, does the same apply to the 1oz silver dollar coins?
again, newfag retard question

>>58906345
>>58906400
>>58906411
What if you just put them in an empty poker chip case? A lot of them are basically the same size as 1 oz. rounds.

>>58911658
No. Nickels though.
https://www.coincollecting.com/is-it-illegal-to-melt-u-s-coins

>gold still at 2,500
This seems to be the bottom now, eh?
>>58910712
Anon, what the fuck? Why would you trade gold for silver, if the point of buying silver first is to trade it to gold?
Anyway, we are about the same. I bought 60 ASEs in 2021, thinking they would go 40+. But then again I have nobody to blame but myself, as I got fucked over by now-permabanned /pol/'s SETF.

>>58910679
Yes, agreed. About time it reached it.
>>58909337
Personal opinion, but mine is 3 oz Au, 50 oz Ag.

>>58910679
$30 is the floor. If you're just starting out this is basically your last chance.

>>58911967
Silver's floor is like $20, stop tricking people into the silver ponzi scheme.

>>58912063
If Silver's floor is $20 then I think I've already made about a $50k profit. Thanks retard.

>>58912068
So you sold your silver?

>Fuck jew
>fuck nigger
>fuck jannie
Loves me gold and silber, simple as…

Inb4 banned by seething trannie jannie…

>Silver FUD
>again

so fucking depressing how many boomers spend their hard earned fiat on many tozAg's worth of cupronickel thinking they'll be worth anything one day

>>58912282
Kek, also, true

Previous foto, pic related, but not mine…
>current picrel is mine

>>58912294
Lol after all they love their current governments that are destroying their countries and future, why wouldn't they love some more worthless coins

>>58912313
>>58912316
Faggot

We need a Gondola coin.

>>58912313
you ought to keep those off to the side and specifically give them to people you don't like as tokens or gifts so they unknowingly inherit your foot fungus coins

>>58912744
what's the best place to score swazzi reichsmarks? ebay is full of boomers and fakes and leddit a) is basically US-only and b) bans advertising coins as 3rd reich

>>58912108
>buy silver
>keep some as an investment stash
>spot price goes up
>sell investment stash
>use profit to buy more silver than before
>hold until the price goes up further
>repeat the process

>>58912316
Shouldn't those be 6.5x52 mm Carcano cases instead of shotgun shells?

>>58912817
I don't know if they have them in stock currently, but Canup Coin Co. on ebay (or their website) always had defcent prices on their 2 RM & 5 RM.

>>58912819
Stop posting my pictures

Apmex lightning deals inc silver at spot

inb4
>"Apmex shill"
>"you can never get modern bullion at spot"
kys

https://www.apmex.com/deals

>>58912108
No

>>58913138
do i possibly need more 1.25ers?

>>58913127
No

>>58913127
That's not how you anonymous

>>58913180
sold out meow

>>58910901
Silver Shield limited Mintage, can still find them on Ebay but they are asking for $200 and when they came out years ago they were only like $65.

imagine all these fools buyin imaginary internet coins and not the real silver and gold stuff their grandparents swore by
the world's gone cookoo bananas i tell you what

>>58913101
are they legit? that kind of pricing seems a little too good to be true.

>>58913426
how much are they?

>>58913138
APMEX TONGUE MY ANUS

>>58913138
damn i missed the premium-free shit
will keep an eye out for more

>58913210
>58913127
>58913235
The three iqdelet stooges

precious metals are bad investments
there, I said it

>>58913590
disgusting jew rat

IQdelet exposed once again via IDentification

>>58913656
k go buy a digital nothing token for $60,000 bro

>>58913666
>sucks APMEX dick even though their 'deal' is immediately sold out because they're faggot jews running a faggot jew business
Why are you such a stupid cunt?

>>58913847
>people immediately buy up an amazing deal. this makes apmex bad because reasons
are you schizophrenic

did something happen to mr stucker

Caught another iqdelet out in the wild, he was shilling against PM's fucking kek

>>58913866
Other shops had the same 1.25oz spot deal running when spot was $2 less just a couple weeks ago. You APMEX shills are insufferable.

>>58914035
if that's true (doubt it) nobody posted about it in /pmg/. maybe you should have, clown

>>58914006
The credit cycle has run its course. You need to own things as the price runs up and then take the "credit" and cash it into PMs for the 1933 style revaluation.

>>58913847
You're slow and an asshole. Not anyone else's fault.

>>58914035
>You APMEX shills
Buy a rope. Still stacking metals here.

>>58913667
>IQ actually stacks metals
You're too stupid to be online. You're going to hurt yourself.

>>58911658
How would they even know you are melting down pennys for copper?
Theoratocaly you could print literally infinte money by doing this so im sure somone out there is arleady mintin his own copper bars

anyone else doing farmer's carries this wonderful afternoon

>>58914006
Do retards not understand you can invest in stocks and metals?

>>58914307
HIIT for me

>silver can’t hold $30
>gold maintaining $2500
Gold chads can’t stop winning.

APMEX has sterling at spot
https://www.apmex.com/deals?_campaign=08282024-lightningsale-priceplay-homepagehero

>>58913455
2RMs 6.78USD
5RMs around 27USD

>>58914645
I like APMEX but they sell nothing at spot because their spot tacks on $15-$20 compared to real life spot.

>>58914609
That shows we're close, heard for years that when this ponzi collapses that gold would be the one to break the door down and after that silver would run through it.

>>58914277
theoretically how would I refine the 95% pennys to 99.9%?

>>58914773
the same way a refinery is refining gold jewelry and whatnot to 999 gold
If youre doing this than obviously youre not some random kid doing it in your backyard but have a somewhat professional setup and small scale refinery oven etc to do this

Freshy Up

>>58914865
>>58914865
>>58914865
>>58914865
>>58914865

>>58914712
>close
We've been "close" going on 15 yrs now. I'm sick and tired of being told how close we are. The fiat Ponzi could easily run another 10yrs yet. Fuck, they might even be able to keep it going indefinitely. Who fuckin knows at this point.

>in 10yrs time
>Fiat finally collapses
>Hyperinflation
>Gold and Silver stackers getting excited
>This is it bros, the great reset and re-evaluation is finally here
>We're all gonna be rich
>Government's around the World rolls out CBDC
>95% of the pleb masses accept it like sheep
>Gold remains stable at $3,000, Silver at $50
>New 100 year Ponzi cycle begins

Calling it now.

>>58914870
new flags up

>>58904038
>implying