/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>58804228
Pause.
Cuts in September, giga moon then giga dump.

I bet it's another time my colleges and I are qt and aware, higher for longer etc etc

Jpow comes in and slams his dick on the table and says he's raising rates to 15% and then walks out.

Rolling for nothing ever happens / maximum pain

>>58804228
Is this something like FOMO?

>>58804228
Billions must be recalled

>>58804253
I had a Niponese coworker who kinda looked like that

>>58804253

>>58804228
Unchanged, will signal dovish future.

>>58804228
Can this nigger just do a fucking rate cut. Inflation is gone, he keeps using jewish employment numbers that get hard revised down.

Wait until the election to make a non political scam cut. Pause and hike afterwards because the fed isn't political.

why the fuck are we pumping? is the market so retarded they cannot tell a recession from a bull market?

>>58804345
>Inflation is gone
lol

he says nothing
market goes up again

>>58804386
Brrrrrrr...

It was so obvious they were dumping the market this week to scare the fed into cutting. Now that they're pumping into the meeting it seems clear the fed is going to say some shit about how they're data dependent and not committed to anything, inflation is still too high, etc. Then the market gigadumps.
>>58804370
Use it as an opportunity to buy cheap puts

>>58804451
what if the market just thinks that "lowering rates = bullish" and they frontrun this by start buying now?

at the end of the day, we need higher unemployment, delinquencies etc, until then it's just copium and we can pump

all the sidelined money may forcefomo on this last squeeze

i want to be fully invested before the final dump to buy cheap stuff

i dont do options

>>58804228
40k

Why aren't you niggers loading up on TLT?
This will be the first rate cut since 2020. Look at the price of TLT back in April 2020...

We're going back to those levels.

>>58804525
rates were 0,25% back then
in which scenario do you see rates going this low again?
hint: they will not, so your TLT performance will not be as good
since im from EU I use a similar asset (Vanguard 20 year bond index fund) to play this move, however, if we really get to near ZIRP or full blown ZIRP then expect BTC TO rocket to 100k+ as a new floor, so you want to be positioned for that

im getting the fuck out of long term bonds the moment I get a reasonable return

>>58804454
My friend just got laid off by Moneygram after surviving multiple rounds in the last month. Shit is fucked. Even if there is a little relief rally it will be short lived.
At the very least this week will end red on the NASDAQ and spy while it is right now green. Markets only rally this high in a single day when 1.) Bad days are over (extremely unlikely, everyone knows the economy is softening and a 50 bp rate cut let alone a 25 bp rate cut won't fix it) or 2.) They want to lure in exit liquidity before dumping it even further. There's also election uncertainty (no one with money wants kamala to win, and it seems somewhat likely given how retarded Americans are although I think Trump would also suck for different reasons).
You sound like a noob. Learn options

>>58804525
Because rates arent going to 0 like in 2020

>>58804538
>in which scenario do you see rates going this low again?

I'm not claiming rates are going back to emergency levels (YET).

What I'm saying is TLT saw a bottom a while back and it's a brainless, easy trade if you want a safe, traditional, missionary style, penis in vagina style trade.

>>58804525

see you on the other side

IT'S ON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1eHcqGpY0

Comfy fedwave time

>RATES CUT
RATES CUT
>RATES CUT
RATES CUT

MONEY PRINTER GO BRRRRR
BUY BUY BUY

>https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20240731a.htm
>decided to maintain the target range for the federal funds rate at 5-1/4 to 5-1/2 percent
nothingburger

I'm a retarded zoomer but I have money and no knowledge of how the government works. SHOULD I INVEST IN TLT? GIB ANSWER QUICKK.

banks are fucked

>>58804723
Is it over for le economy?

gina cam smiley at my cock if you know what i mean

>>58804228
lmao at these journalists begging and seething for a cut.

interest rates are going to go into the double digits. there may never be a cut again, but if there is it wont be until many years from now

god damn where did all these qt journalists come from

>>58804743
>Is it over for le economy?
Opposite. No need to cut because the economy is in a sweetspot.

>>58804759
>>58804764
so don't buy bonds?

>>58804766
Might be a play at the end of august. Personally I don't play bonds.

>>58804759
US need higher rates desu, the money printer need to go slower

>>58804751
A bit vague, but after re-reading a couple of times, I figured out what you meant

>>58804717
Was this confirmed?

>>58804772
Pattern looks shit. August it is.

>>58804766
desu, if youre actually worried about whether now is a good time to be buying bonds youre either very confused or a lot richer and smarter than me. obviously buying long term bonds is bad if rates will rise but Im not confident enough to give anyone financial advice about it

>There can be zero cuts or several cuts depending on how the market evolves
Thanks JPOW!

>>58804764
So is safe to invest in BTC? XRP?

>>58804779
no cuts now, he's pretty doveish though

>>58804783
So basically nothing happened and market is up 400 again. Top peak clown show.

>>58804790
Considering that BTC seem to behave like a high beta S&P these days I would assume so, at least in the short term? I don't have a fucking clue as to how XRP works.
Just my opinion, I don't have a crystal ball.

>>58804808
>So basically nothing happened and market is up 400 again. Top peak clown show.
That's exactly why it's pumping. The world was awash in beta longs going into the FOMC, smartypants hedged ahead of the meeting to hedge a highly unlikely hawkish stance - now it's reclaiming what was synthetically lost in the process.

Inflation has been tamed, rate cuts in September....we are so back

>>58804840
fuck that. rate cuts are bearish. jpow is firmly in wall streets corner, he knows that keeping them high is good for his boya

So wtf it’s a Nothing burger?

God what a bunch of awful questions

>>58804228
I dont give a shit what happens in this khazar mafia puppet state anymore, The west are just moving the chairs around on the deck of their Titanic, The BRICS are going to be in charge from now on.

es finito

>>58804759
I've been telling people this since the whole fiasco began and they continually delude themselves into believing that rate cuts are just around the corner.
The American economy is absolutely fucked and rate cuts are the absolute last thing they're going to do.

>>58804840
>Inflation has been tamed
Imagine the absolute shit show if they actually reported the real inflation rates instead of the bullshit ones they write on the back of a napkin and chuckle to one another about while finishing off their lobster bisque.

>>58804790
>So is safe to invest in BTC? XRP?
Uncertainty keeps persisting in the crypto space, yet analysts are bullish.
I've been taking a long-term perspective, investing in Bitcoin, Ethereum, Nai and Grt. This makes me to view market dips as discount and will enjoy the upside during bullish periods.

>>58805062
kek

>>58804856
rate cuts aren't bearish. fed's hand was forced to cut in the past because of a recession. we're in a historically different time, and there's no saying what will happen because it takes several months to see the effects of any rate changes

>>58805062

dubs and he cuts

>>58805211
checked

>>58804454
>need higher unemployment
If you start using the genuine metric (actual working age people not in vocation) instead of the new metric (we'll just count how we want lol) unemployment is between 10-20%. Its already mega bad, but it really does show the market (not economy) is fake, gay, and histrionic. The day we actually fix the unemployment and CPI calculations is the day we collapse and can actually have a healthy recession and get back to actually improving things
>>58805179
Nice.
Very impressive
Now let's see the shadowstats figure

>>58805179
>Quoting Truflation
>On biz
Congratulations, you're the dumbass in the room.

>>58805639
>. The day we actually fix the unemployment and CPI calculations is the day we collapse and can actually have a healthy recession and get back to actually improving things
so never, bull market only

>>58804551
You are the noob. Markets like to climb a wall of worry, therefore things should be bullish until FED folds an shows the cards, that easy, fast rate cuts.
Options is gambling.

>>58804593
What if we are in 1995? fed lowers too soon, inflation back up (or some black swan, like Iran vs Israel nukes or some shit), rates are forced up, TLT liquidations (which is why I dont leverage)

Why are you losers so unbelievably bearish all the time?

>>58805872
im not bearish i just dont want to hold the bag

>>58804790
Very safe anon, but more safe to invest in low caps altcoins like DUA, FLUCKS, GODS, LOOKS, and GLMR might offer a safer opportunity, as they have the necessary products and potential for growth.

>>58804228
(you)

rates raise tiny amount or not at all because banks need to stay solvent

a more pressing matter is possible war

and a very pressing matter is

a new doggy coin called marutaro is being shown all over pol because it just launched today on 8/1/24. early dog coin is pretty much one of the last avenues left to get rich in crypto imo

>>58806820
Post CA so you can get banned jeet.

>month ends
>Bitcoin roars
sell
>month starts
>Bitcoin dies
buy

You know you are. Don't even hide. I see you.

>>58806826
It's being ad run on pol you retarded faggot.

>>58804228
jewish lies and manipulation, as usual

>>58804892
1000 rubles have been deposited into your account

BTC will take a huge shit on everybody's faces no matter what this nigga acutally says becuase the vast majority of crypto holders are all a bunch of twinks with autism disorders and anxiety. That happens, ETH goes down as well because everything is connected to BTC like it or not and then, finally, my Super will go down to 0.1 and, finally, I will hang myself and be at peace forever, completely engulfed in eternal, blissful nothingness.
>>58804241
>>58804253
Also, this.