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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Buy on Amazon with XMR!
https://monezon.com
https://peershop.app

>Win XMR!
https://monero.vegas/
https://sigmanero.org/

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Babylon #
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>DrugTown #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNi


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development?
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan?
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P will thus play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>58768323
Lets go Monerobros! $1000 EOY. 10k easy as soon as everyone realizes what they've been fading

>>58768323
Scam pedo cryoto. Cry moar faggots.

>>58768323
Also can anyone explain why Monero hasn't kept up with Metcalfe's law lately? Price was tracking it perfect til 2019 now it should be 5k but has been holding back. Are feds suppressing the pump or what?

>>58768446
TNN simple as. What incentive do exchanges have to list the fair price when most XMR users are either highschool drugfags or daytraders who never withdraw to their own wallet? Xmr is too good to make money.

>>58768463
What's TNN?

>>58768446
>Also can anyone explain why Monero hasn't kept up with Metcalfe's law lately? Price was tracking it perfect til 2019 now it should be 5k but has been holding back. Are feds suppressing the pump or what?

1. Don't expect rational outcomes from a highly irrational and manipulated market.
2. Organic growth isn't parabolic. But it is reliable over the long term.
3. Don't buy Monero.
4. Moonfags get the rope.

>>58768467
>What's TNN?

Oh, he's just one of our resident demoralization trolls, just ignore.

>>58768510
Don't be a goose. Years of suppression means Monero is primed for a pump. With Haveno all we need now is to get a little hype going, spread some memes, push it past $167 and we are gonna fly

>>58768533

Hype-fueled pump & dump trading = incessant price instability = all-round bad for business. Sometimes it gets so bad that darknet vendors are forced to cancel orders because they can't afford to eat the losses.

So if you actually care about growing the circular Monero economy then cool it with the NGU faggotry. Let it happen organically.

>>58768548
What are you on about? Monero is the perfect SoV just like gold. It's fungible has low inflation and can't be tracked by the feds. I have been stacking it for years it's at an unbelievable discount right now there's no way I'm throwing it away on darknet junk

>>58768594

If you're not spending regularly you're not helping.

>>58768602
Yeah I am I'm providing demand for Monero and paying miners for securing the network which is most important. But I'm not a consoomer and not gonna waste what will be the number one crypto on internet junk I don't need. Don't throw pearls before swine goes the verse

>>58768323
pedo coin

>>58768646
You mean the anonymity/untraceability of Monero works well, even for pedos?

>>58768073
Right now it's more of a wild west thing but I think it will pick up steam quickly.
I fully trust my governemnt to be absolutely unreasonable on crypto and privacy coins. They will probably demand full disclosure on all personal crypto holdings and retroactively track large purchases.
I want to do it in a way as if a tax office agent is looking over my shoulder.

>>58768436
>>58768646
>repeating the tactics they used on btc
>thinks no one will notice
bullish
>>58768426
already a moonboi thread, hm

Reporting in
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IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk (embed)
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU (embed)
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Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6 (embed)
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Hello frens,

How would I buy a 4chin pass now with XMR? 4chin has fucked their payment system up and only use coinbase now which is worse than AIDS. How can I get around using the unbelievably gay centralized wallets Coinbase forces you to use when using their payment system?

>>58769475
Buddy don't throw away your hard earned XMR giving jannies raises. You gotta stack that shit.

>>58769475
I just checked what you're talking about. I guess I won't be renewing that pass.

>>58769677

Right? What the fuck is this new system about? It fucking sucks. The old one was super easy to use but Coinbase is the most AIDS chicken swinger bullshit I've ever seen in the crypto space. The fuck do I was to use some centralized identity connected wallet for in the crypto space??? That is completely counter the entire idea of crypto. 4chon going this way is so gay.

>>58769475
can some fren sell you a pass on moneromarket for unbelievable jewish price?

>>58768323
>LocalMonero
it's fucking dead, what's tge alternative?

I summon the force of combined autism to reveal the exact location of pic related. It‘s in Berlin, Germany.

>>58769953
swap btc into it if you don’t have access to one of those p2p trading groups

>>58769953
Buy BTC with Peach Bitcoin and swap it for XMR.

>>58770014
background to this photo? some venue or meeting or whatever?
very wide sidewalk. has to be really central

>>58769572
Straw man argument. No one here is claiming monero is digital gold.
Also you're mixing up XRP (ripple) and XMR (monero) again.

>>58769572
I take that back, there's this guy >>58768594.

>>58769310
I'm a failed cybersecurity neophyte that took the online courses pill. I now have had my Security+ for more than a year and still have failed to find a job. It really is just a meme. But at least I know a lot about privacy and corporate gatekeeper network defense tools. I think I should just cut my losses and become a bug bounty hunter or black hat hacker at this point

>>58768594
Monero is more like a digital tally stick or perhaps hawala but on the Internet. If you look at the process it's actually almost exactly the same except with trust replaced by cryptography.

What hardware is most optimal for hash/$ spent on power, if upfront cost can be high? Epyc?

>>58770413
If you stopped at just that one cert then yeah, it's a meme for you. Buck up and deal with the 12-18 months of helpdesk like everybody else, then use that experience in tandem with your certs to weasel into something better.

Learning marketable skills from a place that isn't a 4-year college isn't a meme, anon.

>>58770680
ryzen 9 will treat you fine <3

>>58770028
>>58770040
why the fuck would i get this worthless coin instead of keeping btc if i have to swap it through btc anyway?

>>58771517
people won't admit it but EVERY SINGLE TIME a massive cyber ransom occurred monero pump like crazy

I just read the bitcoin whitepaper. Now onto monero.
As I understand there is no "monero whitepaper"
Is it the crypto note whitepaper + additional documents on getmonero?

>>58768323
tldr ano, waiting some fund to buy a high end CPU for mining, kek, I guess it is too late vesta, would you like to sponsor me ano?

>>58769475
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/how-do-i-buy-a-4chan-pass-without-kyc/17942/3

>>58771615
cryptonote v2 by Nicholas Van Saberhagen

>>58771658
>In the Coinbase Wallet app, click on the icon than looks like [] to scan the QR code. Now your Coinbase Wallet app will be connected.
I don't get it. Does coinbase let you send and receive funds with no kyc? Why not do this with metamask instead?
Also just use trocador jesus
>>58771670
Thank you. I found this annotated version. Looks neat
https://web.getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/whitepaper_annotated.pdf

>>58770829
5950X isn't bad, true, but it earns too little XMR per month IMO at 16.5 kH/s. I use this PC like 99% for mining and 1% for games, so I think I'd be okay with lower clock speeds and NUMA in exchange for more cores in one box. I could build more 5950X boxes but there's RAM, PSUs, cases, mobos, liquid coolers (for quiet operation at constant 100% CPU load) to buy for each, and that drives cost so high I started thinking about aiming for even higher core density builds.
I'm reluctant to only browse xmrig benchmarks, since they don't say anything about CPU overclock and they don't list all RAM timings, which probably is what made someone's 5950X reach 8 kH/s more than mine.
I'm surprised how little mining is discussed in those threads anyway, I thought you'd all have your own miners to "secure the network" even a bit?

>>58771942
Just stop dude >>58768561

>>58771942
Perfection is the enemy of complete. Keep looking, though.

>>58771942
>I thought you'd all have your own miners

I'm mining casually, I do not care much about profit and energy cost, they are pennies anyway. I don't think anybody is building rigs specially for XMR mining, it is not prifitable. Botnet or ready to go solution ("monero asics", actually multi-cpu boards) probably are your best choices if you want to mine for profit.

monero-chan really activates my almonds

lol we're on quite the roll lately, yet another clearnet merchant discovers that XMR is overtaking BTC for crypto payments. Hot on the heels of CoinCards and ShopInBit. REALLY starting to tire of all this winning.

Cue the salty demoralization troll reassuring us that this means absolutely nothing and that Monero is still doomed kek.

keep fighting for freedom brothers

How do I buy lsd with this

>>58768073
>>58768869
you see this shit? yes they care
https://www.focus.de/experts/vermoegensregister-geplant-eu-will-umfassende-datenbank-zum-vermoegen-aller-buerger-aufbauen-was-dahinter-steckt_id_260158959.html

>>58776134
In minecraft.

>>58768646
this is a Monero thread, please make your own thread for general U.S. Dollar discussion.

>>58776067
The first rule of drugs is if you have to ask, you don't deserve to know. The second rule is don't do hallucinogens by yourself.

>>58776134
lol they can try.

>>58769475
Back in the day this is how I did it: The Coinbase payment page didn't open on Tor Browser but it did open on Brave's Tor tab. I then transferred to there through some swap accessed through Tor.

To use the Pass itself anonymously through Tor, there is a limitation: 4chan has this retarded Pass rule where the IP can only change every 15 minutes. If it changes more often, it doesn't let you post. This completely breaks being able to use the Pass through normal Tor because on Tor the IP changes very often. To prevent Tor from changing IP I found you can explicitly select which exit nodes it will use. So I selected one manually from here:
https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:Exit%20running:true
And specified it in the torrc config file with ExitNodes. I have no idea why 4chan makes it this pain in the ass. I though the payment is already supposed to be the barrier to limit abuse. Most likely they just don't give a shit.

bleeding sats forever. feel sorry for anyone that falls for this scam.

>>58770014
tried to look around a bit but I cant seem to find it, 4 bollards and a corner isn't much to go off...

>>58776980
>The rules of drugs
Ok reddit

>>58778427
>sats

Say hi to Paolo for me. Printing season will soon be upon us.

>feel sorry for anyone that falls for this scam.

Bitfags truly are the most considerate bros in crypto. Always endeavoring to save the misguided masses from falling for the altcoin scam.

$100K BTC end of year.

What do her panties smell like?

>>58779839
>What do her panties smell like?
Privacy

>>58771658
>>58771882

The problem I cannot get around is they make you go through this autistic as fuck circle jerk to get your identity forcing you to use one of their wallets. Using some completely shitty QR code instead of just giving you an address to send to. If you could some how just figure out ther address and amount to send, that would be the best. But every time I sit down trying to figure it out, I rage out so hard at the sheer faggotry of it, I give up and tap out.

>>58778265

The 4chin pass is actually pretty great. It used to not be hard to buy one with any crypto but this new Coinbase system is such shit.

what's the safest, most reliable place to buy now that localmonero is gone? btw am i a retard for using paypal? that's kind of been my preferred method just because i can get it faster.

>>58779839
Cringe coomer.

>>58770014
Why do you ask anon? Berlin is full of these Monero stickers. I mean hundreds if not thousands.

Monero Research Lab 24th of July meeting, AI summary:

>Stress testing of the Monero network (stressnet) is ongoing, with about 25 nodes currently participating.

>Mining on the stressnet helps test re-org and orphan block behavior.

>Full Chain Membership Proofs (FCMP) implementation is progressing, expected to be ready for stressnet testing in 3-4 months.

>A new addressing protocol called Carrot (Cryptonote Address on Rerandomizable-RingCT-Output Transactions) was discussed for potential deployment alongside FCMP++.

>Carrot aims to provide forward secrecy, outgoing view key properties, and Janus attack protection while remaining backwards compatible with existing addresses.

>Debate occurred on whether Carrot should be implemented with FCMP++ or later, considering potential fingerprinting issues and implementation challenges.

>Concerns were raised about the complexity of implementing Carrot alongside FCMP++ and the impact on various wallet implementations.

>The need for a formal audit of the Carrot protocol was discussed, with plans to draft a detailed document for review.

>Discussion on whether new transaction versions or relay rules would be necessary to implement Carrot effectively.

>Consideration of the timeline for finalizing specifications and allowing sufficient time for implementation and testing across different wallets and codebases.

>Potential UI changes and seed format considerations for supporting new address types were briefly touched upon.

>>58782246

Thanks for posting these, keep it up.

lol a Bitcoin lobbying org (wtf) is begging the UK govt to not sell seized BTC currently slated for auction.

>Bitcoin Policy argues the government is ‘duty bound’ to avoid policies that may lower the price of citizen-held and government-controlled bitcoin, and that it should, “take steps to preserve and enhance the value of the bitcoin that it holds on the nation’s behalf.”

>It then reiterates that the country should hold seized bitcoin as a Treasury reserve asset, and that it shouldn’t be sold in a similar manner to Germany’s bitcoin.

"crypto-anarchists" begging the State to not hurt their bottom line, what a fucking joke

>btc and xmr going parabolic
Tomorrow's going to be fucking murderous.

>>58784873
how the mighty have fallen

You get a lot to like with Monero.
Filter. Flavor. Pack or box.

>>58784873
Based, taxpayer dollars should go to pumping my bags.

>>58786371
>actual crime with victims
Meanwhile people accuse Monero users of using a coin "for criminals".

Statists gtfo

>>58786616
>druggies buy monero to feed their habit
>monero gets dumped for bitcoin
Thanks for pumping my bags degenerates

>>58786616
>druglord from some cartel gets busted
>monero experiences very high volatility downside then upside then again downside when this event happens

>>58786635
>Incoherent ramblings of a statist mind.

>>58786685
So?

>>58786707
so shit quoted on monero (usually weed and stuff) got more expensive for a few hours, that was funny

dead gen

>https://monerochan.art/

>>58768323
My friend is asking about ways to still sell monero for cash.
What can i tell him?

>>58788723
nice monero-chan

Would you buy this?

>>58771670
>>58771882
so I just got around to reading that.
What a hit fucking mess. Are we getting a real whitepaper at some point? once we have full chain membership maybe?
Anyway, onto the wownero whitepaper

>>58789575
https://wownero.org/whitepaper.pdf
>it's a blank pdf
nvm

>>58789598
get got, faggot/

>>58789351
I feel like a Monerochan beverage should be Coca-Cola with the cocaine put back in it.

So now that XMR is officially a stable coin, what's the best way to cash out and put the money into stocks instead?
I've only lost money on this so I won't have to pay any taxes, right?

What ideals do you think we should compromise on?

>>58791963
How the fuck do you lose money trading something that oscillates between 100-200 for 4 years?

>>58792339
Subversive fuck. Yeah, let's turn Monero into yet another cuckedstream coin.

>>58792339
>want to see how the replied cooked him
>cant see replies without logging in
I hate Elon Musk so much bros.

>>58793167
I got you, senpai.

https://nitter.poast.org/peterktodd/status/1817233604658798684

It seems he was giving props to the ravings of yet another salty maxifag. Seems the latest FUD the laser-eyed morons have cooked up is "lol XMR writes data to the blockchain instead of using ephemeral payment channels, what a shitcoin! Just use LN"

>Monero devs won't implement payment channels because they prefer using outdated privacy technology and *broadcasting every single transaction to the blockchain* including a list of possible senders, the recipient's address in plaintext, and the exact fee used. Just use lightning.

>>58791963

Just turn it into Litecoin and cash it out at any exchange.

how much transaction data can the monero network support realistically?

if it grew in market cap to bitcoin would it just freeze and stop working? would they need to do some gay block size fork like BCH to keep it working?

>>58788723

This Is What Bitcucks Actually Believe

>>58797008
What level of cope is this. I had to double check the date on the tweet I thought it would be from 2016 or something.

>>58797008
>hah nice find wonder what they think now
>check date
>that's today
delusional

They are a very special people.

>>58796050
I'd prefer that I could store and synchronize full blockchain, and it is possible no problem at least with x10-20 of today transactions, so with natural growth it is still a long way. But with spam attacks it can be much more and faster, as it already happened in mar-apr.

>>58797277
>I don't fully understand this tech but let me tell you why this other thing which I also don't fully understand is better, because uhh.. uhh... It will pump my bags if people hodl it.

>>58796050
>how much transaction data can the monero network support realistically?
As much as people are willing to pay for. It has dynamic block size.
>would they need to do some gay block size fork like BCH to keep it working?
Probably, but that's not going to happen in the next 20 years. Worry about it when it gets there. The 'block size' narrative around BCH and LTC is bullshit too, but that's a different discussion.

>>58797323
>It will pump my bags if people hodl it.

What it ultimately all comes down to with these people. Selling out was always going to happen.

>If Bitcoin diverted all of their energy to make itself private and became known as a network of complete and utter privacy, it probably is counterproductive to its own interests, because you don't want the United States government to say Bitcoin is completely private [...]

>There's no way you're going to get 100 trillion dollars to flow into Bitcoin if its use case is directly against the interest of a government that it's within, right, so ... you don't want to be that good."

- Michael Saylor (interview with Peter McCormack)

>>58797337
>>58797286
so lets say all holders of ETH tomorrow decided to switch to XMR. could the monero network handle that user load? or would it slow down and stop working after just 1/10th of ETH market cap moved their funds

I am a full stack dev, how do I earn in XMR

>>58798038
Nonsense question. They do different things, and eth has multiple transaction layers. Its layer 1 more or less the same speed as xmr on average. Monero could handle eth layer 1 volume and most people wouldn't really notice. Blockchains never stop, you just have to bid your transaction higher to get it dispatched.

Like, understand crypto fundamentals before you do crypto FA.

Total privacy is problematic, guise.

>>58798338
Put an ad for your services in moneromarket.io. Maybe post it here too.

>>58798683
He really sounds like an LLM asked to write why total privacy is bad. That's probably what he used to write this meaningless crap. What a retard.

>>58797290
I thought Lightning is so bad that even the original dev gave up on it. Is there anyone still working on Lightning?

On a related note, BTC memes are unintentional comedy gold.

>>58799991
actually yes
also see covenants like CTV

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>>58801546
based

will Louis Rossmann ever let me send him monero for grayjay? Or will he add the retarded coinbase donation tool instead? What are your bets?

Wanted to sell something (legal) and be paid in monero and send it anonymously but turns out you actually can't send a package to someone without giving up your identity. It's impossible (UE)

>>58803484
>live in post-kalergi eco-commie shithole
>turns out privacy is impossible
better emigrate now while you're still allowed to travel by air

>>58803484
Wow, that sucks. Here you can still pay for postage in cash and put whatever as sender. For now.

Is mining Monero worth it?

>>58803484
pay someone in monero to send the package for you

>>58804882
is the only way to get the coin without someone sending it to you

>>58804882
no

>>58779839
Like peaches and pheromones

>>58774370
war is coming soon
speech and retaliation in 2 hours
I might not survive
keep stacking
fuck keynesians
thank you for the laughs and memories brothers

>>58807019
Walk while you have the light, anon.

>>58807112
Christ is king

>>58807019
you've been begging for money here for years
fuck off already schizophrenic retard

>>58801796
I don't understand. You just make a wallet and publish the address. It's that simple. Turning it into dollars is a bit more work but not that much.

>>58807308
i didnt ask for shit
only schizos are israhell

>>58804882
considering how hard it is to get it non kyc otherwise...
>>58805415
monero uber delivery
>>58807330
I'm talking about payment gateways for your website. Rarely is monero included

is there a way to use monero with trezor?

>>58809164
No

>>58809164
you can use it with ledger

>>58804882
if you have access to free electricity it is.

>>58803484
Packages not, but if what you sent fits in a maxed out letter it might be possible. (1-2kg depending on county)
Letters don't need senders.

>>58771942
I sometimes mine during cold days nice'ing the process and setting ondemand or conservative to ignore_nice_load=1, sometimes raising the lowest frequency if i need a hotter space heater
Don't really care about getting the most out of my hardware, or the efficiency, turning profit out of XMR mining isn't worth it, at least for me, but this seems to be better than BOINC and F@H, at least XMR makes a few pennies instead of epeen and worthless papers
>>58793264
this ln shitpost has been making the rounds lately, guess if they onboard enough people it will be killed off just like mixers
still, ln just doesn't cover the use case for Monero, it doesn't even replace mixers

did any of you guys get into haven?
two of the devs launched a new project recently. been mining it and autoswapping for more xmr, it's another randomx fork

>>58810139
tell me more anon i never heard of this yet. whats the project ?

>>58810211
it's called salvium.io
they are claiming it's monero but with compliancy features
so friendly with exchanges

>>58768323
Why is she wearing panties

>>58782246

31st of July meeting:

>Updates from team members on various projects, including transaction broadcast improvements and blockchain syncing.

>Stress testing of monerod continues with a new release version for stressnet.

>Discussion on potential measures against a black marble attack, with skepticism about claims made by a group regarding spam transactions.

>Ongoing work on Full-Chain Membership Proofs (FCMPs) and related cryptographic developments.

>Consideration of auditors for new addressing protocols, with emphasis on defining desired security properties.

>Brief mention of a review for a protocol adding return addresses to Monero-like transactions.

>Plans to continue stressnet testing, but with fewer nodes after August 8-9.

>Cypher Stack to potentially bid for reviewing new addressing protocols.

>>58810726
AI-slop based on Salvium's whitepaper:

>Refundable transactions: This allows for the return of unauthorized or incorrect transactions, which is typically difficult with privacy coins.
Bitcoin doesn't have that and it's compliant for exchanges. So not really relevant.

>View keys: Users can provide a full view key that gives exchanges a "view wallet mechanism" to see the complete transaction history when required for compliance.
Monero has this.

>Selective transparency: Users can keep transactions private but share view keys with exchanges to verify transaction history when needed for regulatory compliance.
Monero has this.

>Ability to reject and return transactions: The protocol allows exchanges to reject unauthorized transactions from unauthorized wallets.
How is this useful for compliance? Just burn the XMR if you don't know who sent it.

>Visibility of authorized wallets: Exchanges can monitor transactions in authorized wallets used for deposits on their platform.
Not sure what this is but sound like a view key for the wallet again. Monero has it.

Am I retarded? Is my AI retarded? Or is this just a rebranded Monero pretending to be cuckable?

>>58810731
pussy privacy

>>58810726
>monero but with compliancy features
anti-feature

>>58768323
Still able to mine rn? I stopped mining right after the bull market 2021 until now, not sure xmr is still able to mine. staking more make sense now, or could earning yield from sorts of vesta nft rwa etc mining really depend on the electricity

>>58810726
>compliancy features
why would anyone want to use some shit like this

>>58768330
was happy when mcafee finally died, he was such a bad person

>>58811707
why? he prevented millions of people from getting their computers infected with viruses

Most of /biz is freaking out about all the money they're losing and we're just riding comfy on our crabcoin. I love Monerochan so much

>>58788723
Can you do ASCII art of her? Not dithered textimages, line-art.

>>58811707
You're probably a 1p-drive-by-troll but just in case you are not: what makes him so bad that you'd wish for his death?

Also I doubt he "died". John was Epsteined.

>>58801796
does he even know about monero?

>>58812075
Heard from multiple people on Hatteras he was kind of a scumfuck. Not too different from his online persona. Didn't wish him dead, but he reads like a Charlie Sheen type.

>>58812635
90% he was just a rich boomer nihilist who ran out of money an hero'd.

>>58812635
liar, manipulator, slept with girls 60 years younger than him (probably below 18yo), caused thousands of people to lose millions with crypto scams, extremely rude to the point of threatening the lives of children, criminal activities. forgetting stuff because i'm trying to forget him.

>>58813530
>slept with girls 60 years younger than him
damn, did you fuck him!?

>>58812562
Will do if someone can recommend a good ASCII artist that accepts commissions. The options on fiverr don't look great

>>58811085
I don't really care I'm just mining it
last year I mined zeph and made a fucking killing on the coins I kept so I think I will keep some of this too just in case it moons

my xmr stack doesn't decrease

>>58813647
clever anon, but you're sucking a dead guy's cock.

>>58771615
>>58771670

>>58807019
good luck bro

>>58809164
Model T works with Monero

>>58813530
>forgetting stuff because I'm trying to forget him
>>58813647
I think you're onto something
>>58812652
>crypto currency payment coming soon
should be right up his alley. If he knows about crypto there is a chance.

>>58813530
Being a liar isn't reason to wish for one's death. I also searched for cases where he lied and none are really serious. If you have specific examples of any horrific lies tell me.

Being a manipulator: Any actual bad examples? I still don't see anything concrete by searching other than people saying he wanted to control narratives (which may just be an attempt to market shit).

I don't care who he sleeps with. The "probably" below 18yo doesn't tell me much either. I'm not wishing someone to die for "probably" doing something bad.

Regarding causing people to lose millions to crypto scams, how? The only case I can find is that he was buying some crypto, then promoting it, and (probably) then selling it off after the price went up. In my book that's not a crime. It's just a shit move if the hype you create was not honest (you didn't actually believe it's worth the hype).

Extremely rude isn't a reason to wish death upon someone.

Threatening lives of children: I cannot find any mention of this online. What do you have in mind?

Criminal activities: other than some scams in his early life, I haven't seen him committing a crime that isn't victimless. I don't care if he made a private army. That's actually very based. But if you do have any actual crimes in the last 20 years or so, with actual victims in mind tell me. Pump and dump isn't an actual crime either in my book, it's just a shit move and he should be ashamed for it.

>>58814874
>If he knows about crypto there is a chance.
In his video descriptions he accepts crypto donations including Verge, Zcash and even Zcoin/Firo but not Monero.

>>58814968
>he accepts crypto donations including Verge
Can you even buy that anymore? I haven't heard Verge mentioned in an eternity.

>>58814977
It's still listed on Binance, ironically.

Zano is better.

>>58814952
bitch i'm not spending any more time talking about that scamming conman. watch a documentary about him if you really care. he's dead and that's all that matters.

>Extremely rude isn't a reason to wish death upon someone.
first of all i didn't say that was my only gripe with him, second i didn't wish death on him, just happy the world is finally rid of him. now fuck off.

>>58815555
I never asked what you didn't like about him you fucking tard. I asked why you wish death upon him. And nice nitpick: "I don't wish death upon him but I'm happy he died". Yeah and I didn't wish to fuck your mom, I'm just happy I did. It doesn't matter if you wish it, the question was what makes you hate someone so much as to be happy they are dead, if not killed.

Thanks for nothing. I'll keep liking the guy for now since all the info I got is that you are happy he is dead and some vague accusations. I had already heard vague accusations.

I guess your whole opinion on him is based on a hit piece you watched.

We haven't had this deep of a discount in a while.

>Bitvalve also removed all monero
>Telegram jews started to charge 20% markup
yeah i just go to my local park to get weed.
requires about 5 minutes of waiting till the next best nafri comes talking to you

anyone using stack wallet?
shit's not working at all for me for monero or firo (litecoin wallet works). I deposited funds in a wallet that won't sync it seems

>>58818256
>I deposited funds in a wallet that won't sync it seems
Sometimes they just take days do synchronize

Have people started using haveno?

>>58819529
Not yet but I might once someone buys my stuff on moneromarket.

>>58818698
it's supposed to be a light wallet
>>58819529
used it couple of times now. good experiences so far

>>58819529
Just go to cakewallet and sen swiss some cash per bank

what payment method should i use for bisq?

That which has been is that which shall be, and that which is done is that which shall be done. And there are no new things under the sun.

Why does this keep bleeding sats?

>>58815502
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