/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>58543988
i appreciate you sticking to this, most people give up surprisingly fast on making their own recurring threads
but maybe a suggestion if you intend to keep this up
cant you use any of the available folio apps and generate a hypothetical biz folio that starts of with a 100 usd and then post he graph of your performance
cause otherwise this is going to get out of hand quickly

>>58543988
Thank you for the dedication OP. Would be good to number the threads as generals from now on (Stonks/Trading General #X, for example) otherwise it could get spammy for the filter or hard to track. This is the third thread btw.
Been keeping my eyes peeled for FLOW and GALA. If you could repost them, I didn’t quite pin the DCAs correctly, only for FLOW I know it’s at 0.866 and GALA at 0.039.
>>58544071
This is a good idea. I’ve followed Stonks crypto since day 1 and I’m up 20% from 3.7k (admittedly going at 2-10% of my position on the trades) I intended to make myself the test subject and test out Stonks trades.

>>58544132
"Going Long on GALA

PT1: 0.050
PT2: 0.065
PT3: 0.084
PT4: 0.105

DCA1: 0.039
DCA2: 0.034

SL: 0.03"

pic is my FLOW chart. Orange is DCA, Red is SL and green is PT's

>>58544071
Starting from 100 dollars is impossible for stocks and crypto, substantial growth is not possible. For crypto your gains are basically nothing if you follow safe trading rules which is a must. For stocks, most contracts are over 100 dollars in value themselves. so you can't trade with them.

I post my % gains for the trades, so you can do the math yourself, if you assume you put in X amount of dollars per trade you will get X amount of dollars as a return. I'm posting for fun, its up to the readers of the thread to decide on how they interpret the info

>>58543988
Dude shut the FUCK UPPPP!!!!! You’ve got to KILL YO’SELF. Nigger. TG cetofbase if you wanna become loaded fucking retarded mongoloid old faggot that is fucking gay and fucking gay and black

>>58543988
Anon, thanks for the thread.

Can you give any resources to start trading with options?

>>58544423
absorb as much content as you possibly can. I've found insightful and helpful on small youtubers who get barely a few thousand views. If you want to be the best you have to know it all, so absorb everything. but beware of bias. books, videos, lectures, etc. these are all good sources of knowledge.

>>58544416
lol, nice little shill there anon.

>>58543988
nice to see you are back mr stonks, i didnt find the thread yesterday and was worried

>>58544214
>Starting from 100 dollars
you are missing the point
it isnt about the 100 usds, its that it represents a 100% and the graph of whatever folio app you prefer would then show the normalized returns

yes obviously you cant do this literally with a 100 dollarinos
but everytime someone ask you to post your portfolio you evade so i offer up this plan as a way to keep track of your performance without that

>>58546388
sounds like this guy is trying to be the next buffett but without any real success maybe he should try investing in some chooky nfts on base instead because that’s where the real money’s at sure you might not start with a million dollars but at least your crypto portfolio will show a 100% return guaranteed

and unlike this guy who seems to evade showing his portfolio every time he’s asked chooky’s nfts are all about transparency and accountability so why not give it a try and join the chooky army

>>58544427
so you suggest to learn what you're doing in terms of options/crypto one should just absorb as much information that they can and eventually they'll find a way?

>>58546287
welcome

>>58546388
that chooky guy is shilling his shit everywhere, kind of annoying.

I could use an app like Kinfo or some other portfolio tracker, but I want to maintain anonymity.

I'm already posting % returns of each scalp i make. Doing that extra stuff is legwork i cant be bothered to do. im just posting here for fun

>>58547460
Yes. The more you learn, the more you understand. You have to start from the ground up. There's a lot of retail investors i know who still don't know what the words implied volatility means, yet they still try trading (and fail miserably)

>>58547536
why do you choose options above other forms of trading?

>>58547610
much larger returns. you can't hit high % returns like these just buying and selling stocks, and you certainly can't hit it in a single day.

>>58547651
i see. then i'll just absorb information and hope i gain elightenment, thanks

>>58547769
yeah, that's the way to go about it.

To anyone wondering why there's been a lack of scalps, i've been busy working on something new for trading.

>>58548235
Patience is key!
Bump so the thread doesn’t die.
I wonder why the fuck whenever BTC crabs alts go down, and by more than 5%
Everyday what you said strikes me more, there’s no tech or utility in crypto, only speculation. Truly a pnd scheme.

>>58548235
what do you think of long term trend trading? month to month buy and sells for steady x2-x3 a year? possible? smart?

>>58550968
You can also ride the trending narrative, just like the current trends in the DePIN sector, where I made money on Honey and Krest. Hopefully, Peaq will follow suit, to profit once it's listed on public exchanges.

DCA1 on FLOW was hit. picrel


>>58551108
that's what i do with my swing trades. I buy and hold option contracts for a long period of time. But expecting a 2x-3x, bro that's a 200-300% increase annually hahaha.

It's possible but it would be difficult even for me. 99% of traders can barely hope to beat the market long term.

>>58551152
>citation needed
Also, the new trading strategy is complete. it's similar to scalping but way simpler and easier to follow. Gonna start posting it today if possible, otherwise it'll start from next week.

>>58551680
is your new trading strategy for scalps only? it is hard to follow 4chan with no notifications, so scalps are out of the picture for me, hoping to see more of your swing trades

also, you answered this before, but I forgot to save - what is your initial SL and what % do you take at each PT?

thank you sar

>>58552344
it's technically a single day swing trade. Similar to my scalps, but much simpler and easier to manage. I enter the position at EOD and exit it within the first 1-2 hours of the next morning. so it's easier than scalping, where im usually only holding for a few minutes.

>>58552422
oh ok, so i just hang around here 3-4pm and 9.30-11.30am burger time
what about your initial SL?

>>58553252
SL's will be a bit looser because this is going to technically be intraday trading. I'm going to play much, much more aggressive positions so we'll see.

What's your opinion on BTC's current trend? I do TA and to me the weekly and 3-day charts of BTC and many alts are looking worrying to me so it would be nice to get your view. In particular, one major warning sign for me is the 3 pins to the high(or to the lows) as circled in the green in pic related that usually indicate a top(or bottom if the pins are to the low) and it looks like there is a solid chance of BTC playing out the same way as 10th of May 2021.

>>58553708
And this BTC chart coincides with many large cap alts like ADA, AVAX, FTM etc which look like they are forming a symmetrical pattern to the downside like in pic related. Thoughts?

>>58553708
i would dedicate a small portion of my port to being permabull on BTC. Anytime it goes up a few %, i trim my position and rotate the money into other trades I take.

Any time it dumps a few %, i would add onto my position.

At this point, BTC will not be doing any large magnitude moves anymore without some really really big news. and evne then, idk what kind of news would move it. its a fat bitch. but the good news is i think because its such a fat bitch, TA is way more useful on this than something like APU lmao. that shit was shilled so hard for the past few weeks and it just dumped hard yesterday.

bump

no updates on any crypto plays. flow is up from DCA but still not near PT1.

Can't wait to try out the new trading setup on Monday.

>>58555437
PT1 is so far away lol. I might take profits a bit here ngl, will update if i do.

what's up with doge?

Remember OP sockpuppets himself and is a known scammer

>>58556406
>>58556406
idk, still would hodl

>>58556480
lmao. this guy again. how exactly am i a scammer?

>>58556689
And when do you plan to close it? When do you think a new ATH will occur and what are your expectations?

>>58556778
im only closing it if it goes back to BE. so i lose nothing. I already hit PT1, so i've taken out and secured some of my position for profit. This is just letting the rest of it ride. Next PT is at 0.186 and SL is at 0.15 which is still in the green.

Bump

>>58543988
Did you get some SHRL by now, your time is running out?

>>58558909
nope
just realized i was mispelling my trip this whole time lmaoo

>>58559061
Hello, Mr. Stonks. It is with quite the sadness that I have to announce I'll have to retire this "challenge". I made off like 3k extra with the few trades that you made and I had to cut the loses today because my mom had a medical urgency, so I had to take it all out.
Unfortunately I still have to wait like to end of month in order to pay this month of university, because that's when I get paid, unfortunately. I have like 1k approximately that I need to pay which is gonna be quite the trouble.
I wish every one of you and you Mr. Stonks success trading, but I have to get off for now.
Good luck y'all. Rest asured, Mr. Stonks is definetly no jeet or scammer, couldn't have had the money for this urgency today without him.

>>58559980
good luck anon. i pray ur mom has a speedy recovery

>>58560022
Came here to say that I looked for the last time at the chart and I laughed my ass off watching the market go up radically the moment instant frame I capitulated. Hahaha. Swingies do get the rope at the end. How sad.
Thank you Mr. Stonks. Farewell, space cowboy.

>>58560218
Money will come and go. Good luck.

Crypto trade

Going long on FTM, will post chart on the morn

PT1: 0.81
PT2: 0.86
PT3: 0.91
PT4: 1.05

DCA: 0.76

SL: 0.73

>>58561185
PT1 hit, moving SL to BE, taking 1/4th out as profit.

Bump

Some single day swings comin in right before market close, waiting for some validation on the charts

OP planning on doing some play with GME?

>>58564809
there are 5 minutes until market close...

>>58544427
Shill me the youtubers
Do you do crypto too or just stonks?

>>58565776
If you read this thread you will see he post his crypto plays too

>>58565754
well if i didnt update on that means i didnt enter a play LOL

Well, i did enter one but it is high risk so I did not post it here. There are some crypto and stock plays that I personally enter, but are too high risk so I don't post em. For example recently I entered a SHIBA long but it's down quite a ton. that's how life be

>>58565776
both

>>58565912
sure, sorry, i just didn't know what did you mean when you said 'right before closing time'
i hope your entry works out well

>>58565947
yeah no worries. for these new types of plays, i'll usually enter 10 minutes before market close.

Going Long on ICP

will update info in the morn

>>58567900
Checked!
I'm curious about this one. Seen a lot of chatter about ICP popping up the last days.

howdy anons

here's the ICP info below.

PT1: 13.26
PT2: 15.56
PT3: 17.86
PT4: 22.18

DCA1: 11.22
DCA2: 10.36

SL: 9.5

Pic is FTM, haven't taken out any more profits just updating on the juicy move up even after PT1.

This isn't spam, just a friendly offer, there's a really old RGT discord from 2016 that has a couple of traders who trade every day in it who make some gnarly calls here and there, it's not a super active discord and kinda dead on the weekends.

If anyone wants to join it.

7xhRwtJd

>>58570279
Hey, what was your entry price for ICP?

>>58570451
bro if i found a server full of gnarly traders, why would i tell others about it

>>58570464
around 12.1

>>58570464
I said it has a couple of traders who trade in it who make some gnarly calls here and there, not that it's full of them.

I just figured the more the merrier.

>>58570617
bro in the discord you say that you actively sabotage people wtf

>>58570876
lol is this true?

>>58570900
this is literally what he said, but I am scrolling and can't figure it out, it's some scizo shit with two users with the same name playing practical jokes on each other? also the guys seem to advanced for retards like me, seems they are more into scalping

>>58570876
Fucking amazing :D

>>58570929
lol, well that's life for ya.

Just for the record, i will never direct users on here to go to a discord server or anything like that. I will always post my trades on here for free for everyone to see.

I only use trips so people cant make the same thread and shill their own opinions pretending to be me. I've only been around for a month? probably a bit less. and ive already posted a tooon of free trades that are profitable. in both crypto and stonks.

>>58570999
yeah man, we get to rely on your trades and then you leave and break our hearts

You Are Responsible For What You Have Tamed - Antoine de Saint-Exupery, The Little Prince

>>58571012
hahahaha, you can interpret it however you'd like anon, such is life

>>58571019
nah i am just shitposting, i am the kind of freeloader who is honest about it and i'll take what i can get

20 min until market close, i assume no low risk trades today with your new strategy?

>>58571035
im waiting till the last 5 minutes for validation on some of my trade ideas. that's usually how these will go, although ill post my watchlist a bit earlier if need be.

>>58571048
oh shit that's gonna be tight

>>58571064
that's what she said

>>58571069
say, these new plays of yours, can exits be set up in advance or it relies on you posting it here?

>>58571202
exits can be whatever u want it to be anon. ill be exiting it depending on the chart movement i see. so long as my trade idea is valid, ill hold while periodically trimming. i only exit once i think im getting too greedy or once the trade idea is invalidated.

>>58571483
got it
market opening hours at burger time is problematic because of my day job, so maybe ill just wait for traditional long plays, hopefully you'll keep posting these too

Updating on FLOW, happy with profits here. taking some out, moving stops BE.

>>58572097
FTM, what a nice move up. took only a few days to play out, as well.

>>58570279
Thanks for the insight!
Is your assessment based on known upcoming catalysts or only on chart analysis?

Howdy yall. Scalpin time

SPY 0DTE 528P @ 0.67

>>58574529
Mostly chart analysis

>>58574931
Trim @ 1.01 for 51% gain

Mr. Stonks, please recommend me a platform for both option trading and crypto trading.

Btw, I’m learning as much as I can about options like you recommended me. What do you think about selling cash secured puts?

>>58574958
LOL always to late for scapl plays :(

>>58574931
>SPY 0DTE 528P @ 0.67
tried to place an order and got hit with mifid bullshit
am i the only one with this problem?

>>58575115
it didnt hit the tp though

>>58575133
yo heard about chooky token it's launching on base and it's about to pop off like a shitcoin popping to da moon

forget about those old-school stocks we're all about that digital money now chooky has all the memes and memes make money you know what i'm sayin' it's got that same feeling as watching a meme go viral like it could explode at any moment just imagine those gains and the memes oh lord the memes so hop on board and get ready for that sweet crypto pump

chooky token is where it's at

>>58574976
I don’t sell cash secured puts so I couldn’t tell ya.

IBKR for options, BingX / MargeX for crypto futures.

Also, I took 2 trades on TSLA and AMD that were nice and green, but since I forgot to alert I will not be counting it in the recap. So sad

>>58575235
wait, your crypto trades are for futures? or spot?

>>58575289
Correcto, no spot. Just futures.


Entering a new trade, might swing this one

COIN 6/7 265C @ 1.85

>>58575289
lol i entered icp spot position
fuck my gay life

>>58575301
>>58575317

>>58575317
Good1 broski

>>58575133
oh shit it did
teeny weeny candle

>>58575433
Bro when he spreads misinformation on the internet

>>58575433
bro you're about to miss out on the best new token launch since floki and doge meme with $choo you get busta rhymes memes and you can connect with artists and buy their nfts and have backstage access with celebrities and get rich or you can be a little pussy boy and never get rich your call

>>58575494
not intentional, im just a retard

>>58575301
do you have a pt for this?

>>58575511
All good bro hahhaha

>>58575724
First trim at 50% return, second trim at 100% return.

Or unless trade idea gets invalidated. Not home rn so I’m lookin at this shit thru my phone lmaoo

>>58576028
thanks!
well the trade idea validation thing is not for me because i have no idea what your trade idea was lol
rsi crossed 70 but other than that i can't see shit
will try to catch the 50% in an hour or so, have to leave later

>>58576124
most likely gonna swing this one. i made good green on 3 other scalps today, TSLA, SPY and AMD so im playing with profits. hence the aggressive COIN trade. we'll see how it plays out.

>>58576138
i guess the only difference is that you set up a limit order instead of just staring at the chart?

>>58576162
nope, like i said im playing with profits now. so im rawdoggin this play. always gotta play a lil aggressive now and then

>>58576167
what platform do you trade options on?

>>58576259
ibkr for stonks
bingx for crypto

COIN finally back in the green

options are retarded you get scamwicked or can get blackswanned
you would be rich if you tards bought mstr at 400 all in like i said

>>58576491
being right once can be attributed to luck. being right again and again? that is not luck my friend.

also the definition of black swan is a rare event. if ur sizing ur trades so poorly that one rare event is what it takes to wipe you out, you just learned a very expensive lesson.

>>58574958
ROI?

COIN 265C

CRWD 350C

QCOM 212.5C

Howdy y'all. looking to enter these. COIN i've already entered, but CRWD and QCOM waiting on a bit more validation before i do so.

MRNA 160c 6/7 @ 1.51

CRWD 355c 6/7 @ 2.51

Literally 1 faggot ITT talking to himself.

>>58577107
Nah there are couple of us here :D

>>58577107
Bro why are u upset

jacked to the tits in positions,
time to see which go well and which fail tomorrow.

good night

>>58576167
i had to leave for work yesterday so i just set up the order for 50% and it got filled
thank you for the free money mr. stonks, looking forward for more swings
i am also in ICP

i know you don't like shitcoins, but several hours ago i bought some IRENE on sol and it's 450% atm, took initials out, feels nice

Forgot to update here.

Trimmed most of my positions at the following prices:
CRWD @ 4.00 for 60% increase
COIN @ 2.45 for 32% increase
MRNA @ 1.3 for -18% loss.

All in all good green day.

>>58580622
Nice man. Good for u

>>58543988


5/13/2024
QQQ 444C from 0.47 - 0.61 for 30% gain
QQQ 444C from 0.4 - 0.5 for 25% gain

5/14/2024
QQQ 446C from 0.40 - 0.52 for 30% gain

5/15/2024
QQQ 451C @ 0.33 - 0.8 for 142% gain

5/20/2024
QQQ 454P @ 0.76 - 0.86 for 13% gain

5/21/2024
QQQ 455C @ 0.35 - 0.6 for 71% gain

5/22/2024
SPY 431P @ 1.48 - 1.35 for -8.78% loss
TSLA 177.5P @ 1.07 - 1.33 for 24.30% gain

5/23/2024
QQQ 458C @ 0.88 - 0.7 for -20.45% loss
AMZN 187.5C @ 0.88 - 1.11 for 26.14% gain
QQQ 456P @ 0.88 - 1.1 for 25% gain
QQQ 456P @ 0.77 - 0.4 for -48.05% loss

5/24/2024
NFLX 640C @ 2 - 9.5 for 375% gain

5/29/2024
IWM 203C @ 0.42 - 0.46 for 9.52% gain
QQQ 457P @ 0.6 - 0.96 for 60% gain
NKE 95C @ 0.48 - 0.55 for 14.58% gain
TSLA 180C @ 1.05 - 1.68 for 60% gain

5/30/2024
CAVA 90C @ 1.2 - 4.5 for 275% gain
UAL 52C @ 0.6 - 0.2 for -66.67% loss

5/31/2024
COIN 225P @ 0.35 - 1.75 for 400% gain
ARM 125C @ 0.62 - 0.01 for -98.39% loss
MRNA 155C @ 1.63 - 3.25 for 99.39% gain

6/4/2024
TSLA 170P @ 1.9 - 1.27 for -33.16% loss
SPY 526P @ 0.97 - 1.17 for 20.62% gain
BA 185C @ 3.1 - 3.42 for 10.32% gain

6/6/2024
MRNA 160C @ 1.6 - 1.3 for -18.75% loss
COIN 265C @ 1.85 - 2.45 for 32.43% gain
CRWD 355C @ 2.5 - 4 for 60% gain

Alright broskis, winrate has been a bit lower than i was hoping for this past month at around 75% but that's how it be. Green is Green.

The new single day swing trades have been feeding me well. if i don't post in the next 5 mins, means no trades. GG

I remember in the beginning there were a TON of haters, but now after almost a month's worth of results are here, those haters are magically gone? odd

BTO MSFT 427.50c 6/7
BTO SQ 67c
BTO TSLA 180c

posted em too late, GG. i got in myself though hahaha

>>58584528
i don't think it's you posting your trades, it's just they get tired if you don't feed them

please post more swings mr. stonks

>>58584562
GGWP, btw still holding ICP?

>>58584602
Does the sun shine my brother? yea, im hodling it. till DCA or PT's

>>58584608
do you trade with margins?

>>58584785
for crypto i do leveraged trading yeah.

Have you been riding this gme craze at all? Ive been scalping it, in and out in an hour and making a killing. I also bought some 41 strike puts for october to hold longer term. Other than that im waiting on apple to move and crowd strike has been doing well for me. Pay pal is finally moving, nice cup forming on the daily.

>>58585499
nop, i briefly bought calls on it a while back but otherwise nah.

I cant read it at alll. and if i cant read it, i wont trade it.

You thread is occupying a spot where a jeet scam thread could be instead, think about your actions

>>58585560
damn, if only those anons could shill their totally legit, 1000x bagger coin that is safe and future proof.

Mr. Stonks your thoughts in HOLO?

>>58585647
with an Mcap of 10mil, i could buy that shit myself.
jokes aside, i dont touch stuff that has such low mcap.

Even if this shit does moon, the average investor will put how much into it? 10K? 20K? fine, let's say 100K. even if HOLO goes 2x, 3x, that's still only 300% gain. over the course of a lifetime that is nothing. i want reproducible results on a monthly yearly basis. so i can keep makin money whether i scale up or scale down.

>>58585657
so you dont think itll pump close to $50 like before? Even if it went halfway its still a 10x

>>58587317
dawg, GME is already at 60 AH lol. If Keith exercises his call options, it definitely could pump higher in fact it most likely will. but i dont know if it will or not. its all up to gool ol roaring kitty, idk what he'll do. so imma stay away and watch in amusement.

I dont really feel or worry about FOMO since i know even if i miss this opportunity, ill make more money down the line. i feel bad for those who beat themselves up over missing out on NVDA or GME. such is life, yknow?

Goin long on KSM. crypto trade.

Will update in the morn, goodnight

>>58585657
I've made a few hundred bucks from your plays, please never stop posting anon, much appreciated

>>58588264
Whalecum. ICP is up a good bit, gonna take profits and move stops to BE. gimme a bit to update, not home atm

>>58589954
Since it was my first play with future I did not ape in a lot, but managed to cashe out my months salary :D Pretty sweet

>>58588245
Holy shit dat dumb :D

>>58589954
here we go. setting SL to BE, ez profits. Will update with KSM pts and whatnot in a sec

KSM key points

PT1: 36.11
PT2: 42.61
PT3: 51.43
PT4: 65.28

DCA1: 30.66
DCA2: 27.28

SL: 25.16

>>58584562
gonna let these ride till zero, such is life.

>>58592211
And got liquidated on my KSM position :D fuck me

>>58594656
everything is dumping, massive sell off

>>58592211
>>58594820
what do you think mr. stonks, is it wise to reenter at market price and same sl?

>>58594919
hit both my DCA's then hit my SL, im out lol.

>>58594656
liquidated? bro how heavy did you enter lol

>>58595050
yeah, but does break your setup? or just wait for new opportunities? everything got dumped

>>58595077
wait for new opportunities, anon. never get too greedy.

>>58595050
lets just say went yolo with my ICP earning :D
Never again

Honestly how often does this happen? This was such BS dumb..

>>58595204
it's like black swan shit
baby swan
like newborn swan
but still
people with liquidity are making money buying the dip while we just watch XD

>>58595184
bro, i should leave an extra disclaimer in first post telling people to SIZE LIGHT.

I always say this when people ask me how i size, especially with crypto. Size LIGHT. Let this be a lesson for you anon.

no more than 1-2% MAX. and nowadays i go even lighter, 0.5% per position.

>>58543988
Guess you haven’t discovered Sharkroll yet either, as many here haven’t

>>58595261
would you be able to provide some keywords as to what youre doing (im guessing option calls) so that i may do more research. new investor

>>58595261
get that shit outta here lmao

>>58543988

Will you post what you do, or just pride over results?

>>58595616
bro hasn't been folowing the thread. i have been posting 90% of my trades live as i take em, only a few haven't been posted live. also, a cap'n always goes down with his ship. held each losing position today till loss. first day where i lost all trades taken, hahaha

6/7/2024
TSLA 180C @ 1.08 - 0 for -100% loss
SQ 67C @ 0.57 - 0 for -100% loss
MSFT 427.5C @ 0.95 - 0 for -100% loss

What a day.

>>58595616
his scalps are not really helpful to normies, but everything else is easy to follow

>>58595679
How's the WFC call debit spread doing?

>>58595725
exited it a while back for a loss broski. switching away from that stuff, i posted like 4 swing trades and all of em were good. WFC was the 5th one that was losing. its nice to have guaranteed success but its boring.

>>58595729
i should clarify some more. its not that it was boring, it was limiting. a lot of those tickers had low option volume so you couldnt make big green off of em even if u had the funds. hence why im switching over to swings on higher volume tickers like TSLA and MSFT

>>58595261
finally, that's what I'm talking about!

bump

>>58556406
What's the point of holding this again? Just buy cheap bluechips like EOS.

>>58600197
im not holding it brah. crypto futures. besides, ive already made my profit, just hodling a smaller position. even if it drops heavy, ill still be green. and if it drops SUPER heavy, i exit at my entry for net green overall.

>>58596576
from what i understand, sharkroll is just a gambling site?