/biz/ - Business & Finance

What are some intangible assets with no clear consensus on what the price should be? Probably not very liquid but who cares.

>>58508735
/crickets

So the jannies drove off the ordinary investor-posters because they were tired of doing their fucking jobs, and now that they have relented things are five times worse. Old /biz/ was 60-70% crypto bullshit, but there was a healthy interchange of opinion and information re: precious metals, commodities, stocks, etc., and we'd have several new SMG's each morning. Now it's 95% crypto bullshit and an SMG lasts a week.

Fuck.

>>58508949
it will heal eventually
the exiled general will remain active until it dies from attrition since no one new is lurking there, while the biz lighthouse general will eventually get enough newfags to become active again

until then, you're gonna have to lurk 2 different places lel

>>58508998
There will be hardly newfags unless reddit or xitter somehow meme this place into the next wsb. Like what value is there to going the trouble of an email address to shitpost on a Vietnamese rice futures exchange forum board?

testing

FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK TRANNIES
FUCK KIKES
FUCK JANNIES
>NO NIGGERS ALOUD
NO NIGGERS ALOUD
>NO NIGGERS ALOUD
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>>58509255
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK TRANNIES
FUCK KIKES
FUCK JANNIES
>NO NIGGERS ALOUD
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this thread used to be fun and now its completely dead

new thread new me

So what mining company do I dare invest my hard earned leftover cash in?

>>58508998
Anarchy is fun until you realise that its not and leaving all the degenerate shit behind bant bars is the best thing to happen to this board
It’s fuking amazing that /smg/ is spreading to more boards
fuck it let’s do /k/ smg
Also I sold all my positions so now I’m in desperate need to find new shit
Shill me on your next 10xers

>>58509228
Correct. 4chan has lost all relevancy and young zoomers and alpha can't deal with the format. They have been behaviorized into recognizable accounts from the cradle on. More Millennial and GenX posters wont suddenly turn up neither. Imageboards are over the same as forum formats were over around 2015, they might vegetate on servers, but growth is something they won't see again

Yall ever feel like a bunch of jew ass ticks with your rent seeking i mean market making

So I'll start. Tesla is a meme stock. But it found a nice increase yesterday and I hope to see it continue. Might place a nice quick call in TSLL for it.

cmon nvdia line go upppp

16k in nvidia, 30k in smci. How fucked am i?

>>58509552
Do you post on akg? I recognize you lol

>>58510026
How do 3k in NVIDIA and 8k in smsci sound

why cant everyone just post here like the good old days. bant is fucking stupid. jannies are going to be good boys (ywnbaw) now

Sup newfags. Let me let you all in on a little secret. The stock market discussion thread has moved to /bant/. We will no longer be subject to tyrannical tranny janny control.

>>>/bant/smg
>>>/bant/smg
>>>/bant/smg
>>>/bant/smg

>>58510097
There are no newfags here Chang. You were the last group that kept this shitheap somehow alive. Now that you are gone (and stay gone), its quite again and the eternal slumber can continue.
Stay gone!

>>58510097
we are going to win the smg civil war because nobody is going to be looking for smg in fucking bant of all places. biz is our true home and yeah our landlords are huge fucking power tripping faggots, but it is where we belong. come home, brother.

>>58510120
no one posts in /bant/
the smg discussion is here and it belongs here

what are you fellas buying today?
I am just sitting in SPY and QQQ and havent been trading much

>>58510097
No Baggie.
We are not moving to fucking BANT

>>58509680

>>58510129
SQQQ. When every faggot starts screaming new paradigm from equities to commodities, i'm starting a short position

>>58510144
why would the market correct right now?
people still have a ton of cash and have been coming into the market
real estate is too expensive to buy into
bonds finally have a decent yield but the market is up 7.5% just this month

I think the SPY goes up 20% by EOY

Has this general gotten slower? Also, how do you anons deal with stress fucking you over to the point that even getting laid doesnt do it anymore?

tempted to go risk off before nvda ernings.

>>58510166
lessen stress in your life.

>>58510166
>Has this general gotten slower?
for some reason the /biz/ jannies are foring the smg to /bant/
I dont really get it, everything here has always been a discussion on stock market investing, with some folks informed, other uninformed and a bunch of fellas shitposting while the market crabbed

smg belongs on /biz/

>>58510177
i like the lack of censorship and flags. so you can tell who the worst posters are to ignore.

>>58510175
i need to finish college, i think its the source of it all

>>58510177
kind of cashed out in the meantime, what happened? it crabbed for a bit and then proceded with the bulrun it was going trough since november last year?

>>58510156
I agree with this anon, the money printers injected so much fiat into the system your not seeing stocks go up in real nominal terms, its only inflating because the dollar is worth less.

The stock market cannot drop because it has already effectively crashed 50% due to inflation alone, thus buying is the only remaining alternative unfortunately despite the 'high' perceived prices. Had you followed my advice a few months ago, you would be up 30-50%

>>58510120
>>58510108
>>58510140
We have a Banganon. >>>/bant/20350867 We are clearly the superior thread. What do you guys have here besides tranny's and the ability to obfuscate your Chinese and Indian flags?

>>58510219
true. we only have a slightly retartet bang anon >>58505129

>>58510156
>SPY goes up 20% by EOY
NEW PARADIGM
yeah I'm happy building a general short position, you keep screaming.
>My exit liquidity is just going to come
Your exit liquidity is racking up cc debt to pay for essentials of surviving. Look up real disposable income

>>58510305

the cost of living is going up every day
the market is going up to keep pace with inflation
NOT being in the market means losing even more to inflation

I have no credit card debt, I am doing ok getting by, and need to be all in the stock market so my dollars can grow enough since the dollar is worth less and less every day

>>58510329
Then you are one of the 10% of the western population not living pay check to pay check, congrats, you are an absolute minority and the demand for financial products wont increase with 90% potential bagholder out of the game

Anyone else hoping for a massive correction soon? Hope we will see -20% this year, I hate seeing normies and sex-havers accumulating wealth while I'm sidelined with cash.
Need to see couples and socially active people destroyed desu. Boomers too. And employed "people". Anyone who is not poor, really.
I need to see them all burn in Hell. God, I'm praying for a crash

>>58510367
Spy is going to 600 this year, inflation is still 10-15% a year. You should not be holding cash.

Don't try to catch a falling knife

GWAV OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>58510376
>Spy is going to 600 this year
think we'll see it dump to at least 400 soon, maybe even 325-ish

>>58510393
>GWAV
lol, not buying your bags raj

nvidia is unironically a new paradigm btw

This has to be the end right. Textbook double top, wouldn't it be a shame if they report less than stellar earnings. The clown show has gone on for too long.

>>58510219
of course this is the superior thread. I've been saying that all along

>>58510455
nvda can't beat. it's literally impossible. lines goes up forever, not even joking.

>>58510464
can't miss oops I AM A RETARDED NVIDIA PERMABULL, but at least i have made a fuck load of money the past year and a half because of it

>>58510156
So we should expect SPY to be around 600 by the end of the year.

Uh-oh

>>58510500
what is his overall share size?

>>58510500
>only 100k
That's probably not even 10% of what he has

Archer Aviation will hit 100 per share in 2030

Trust the plan

>>58510500
Every politicians and anybody close to a politician that traded securities in the past 70 years has to be executed. Future administrator won't own anything and will be happy, or dead

>>58510522
>>58510525
Why does it matter? Earnings are today and if they’re expected to be good, why not just leave it and withdraw when price booms yet again? The only reason the withdraw early is because he knows it’s going to drop

>>58510491
SPY is up 11.75% YTD
I honestly believe the SPY end the year around 580, maybe up to 600

>>58510129
>what are you fellas buying today?
Using todays discount to acquire more JD.

>>58509440
DNN was shilled to me here a few years back and it's wound up not losing me money, so I consider it pretty solid.

>>58510376
10%? Where are you getting these stats from?

I fundamentally do not understand what determines a stock price.
I think I understand that a company's increasing/decreasing profitability makes the price go up or down, but I don't know what sets the price to begin with.
Stocks seem to me like glorified baseball cards. I don't actually "do anything" with them. I just buy and sell them. I guess they "give you a share of ownership in a company" and the ability to vote, but both those things are largely meaningless, no? Like, the average shareholder will never have any say in the company's operations.
I guess I just don't get stocks. I buy and sell them and I do pretty well. But I basically only speculate on price movement. All my estimation regarding price movement is relative to its current position - I couldn't truly tell you whether it's current price is fair or not.
Anyone have any insight on this they'd like to share?

>>58510177

>>58510634
>I fundamentally do not understand what determines a stock price.
supply and demand

Is natgas overvalued or oil undervalued. Or is it both

>>58510725
So they are effectively baseball cards for companies? The values aren't grounded in anything beyond how many shares are available (supply) and what people want to pay for them (demand)?

if you listened to me and bought CONY on monday you would be up a lot now, you still have time this will go up to ~30 bucks a share and youll get some sweet divvies. Sell in about 12 or 14 months and thank me laters

Anyone else planning on relocating to Dubai in a few years?

>>58510607
not that Anon, but they are gaming the numbers hard
REAL inflation is at least 10%

>>58510757
Extremely reduced, yes. But as with baseball cards, you can read a lot into it, try to determine the "value" according to different variables you put in functions that follow models that are build following theories with certain ontological views on reality and compare it to the baseball cards meta as the other ways of "valuing" each card against each other

I already regret my FOMO buy on Nasdaq today

>>58510782
You couldn't pay me to go to that soulless Arab shithole

>>58510757
think of it like a fractional loan system.

People need money to do business stuff, the sell shares to generate that money, and people give them said money in the hopes of getting a return.

Main difference being that a loan has a set rate/default is possible, where as stocks can go up or down, so if it helps to think of stocks as a sort of loan maybe that helps?

My strategy is to look at the top movers in AH and get in. Most of these get pumped before open and I just ride up for a small profit before they get dumped during the day

>>58510799
Interesting, I get that.
So, when looking to buy/sell, it's just about guessing which way the company's desirability moves? Hm. I might want to look into the grounding stuff, for some reason it's weird to me that two companies with similar profitability can have such wildly different prices.

>>58510801
its a flat day
dont give up yet
the gains are on their way

>>58510812
My understanding though is that he return never really comes, except maybe as divvies. That's basically what's confusing me. It seems we pay a lot of money for a stock with no divvies or other benefits to us. See, e.g., NVDA.

>SPWR going up

>>58510827
>Desirability
Yes, when it comes to trend.
>Different prices
>Similar profitability
There could be many variables to explain this. f. ex something basic like amount of shares in circulation.

good job not buying starbucks like I've been shilling here since their shitty earnings report.

>>58510839
your question goes into the realm of "why does money have value?" and basically FIAT currency is another "its worth that because people think that" kind of thing...

This is most of human existence, we make it up in our heads and expect others to play along. if you dont understand it, you are in the 99%

>>58510826
So you'll buy at the end of the day and sell next morning?

>>58510871
That makes sense.
>>58510893
I contemplate that, but I won't argue that I'm in the 1st pctl for intelligence.
It just seems sort of bizarre, taking NVDA as a primary example. It seems they have a minimal dividend. People are paying close to 1k per share. Sure NVDA is highly profitable, but they don't get any of that profit. The shareholders just have their share(s) to sell to other people who might want them.

OHH but on the flip side, if you buy all the shares you get the company.... Maybe that's where this works out. Like, at the current stock price it costs 2T to buy Nvda. Maybe that sort of makes sense from a more grounded sort of financial aspect. I need to nap on it.

>>58510887
I bought some. Seemed like opportunity for mean reversion but we'll see.

Sorry for shitting up the thread btw I'll stop now.

>>58510839
and the return does come assuming the corpo is good... the company gets it by making money, and the corpo is bound by law to pass that onto shareholders in some way. Some do this better then others OFC

>>58510942
yeah now you get it, its sort of a collateralized fractional loan, I buy a portion if not a controlling portion of your company.

You keep bringing up nvidia and its an obvious case of big players being over valued, so try not to let outliers determine the rule for the mainstays.

The rules are made up and the points dont matter.

Does anyone know what Series Class A, B, R increases/decreases might correlate to?

>>58510938
Essentially, yes. Of course it’s not an exact science but I’m noticing a trend of people hopping onto these stocks hoping to make massive fortunes in a day and then I see their comments hours later talking about their losses and just hoping it goes back up. The idea is to get in and not get too greedy like these people and take quick profits. Even if it’s only $10-$20 here and there, it’s a lot better than being left with a bag

>>58511003
Yeah true, will try it out. I have a long term pie for metals needed for the energytransition but thats a 10+ year investment. I usually do some scalping during the day but thats alot of work for a low profit. Other stocks are at an all time high so for now i'll stay away from that.

>>58510367
>He didn't buy in during the 2 year long dip
>He thinks the market won't increase gains in the second half of the year like it does almost every presidential election year
>He thinsk the market won't sky rocket next year when the FED starts lowering rates
Come on, man

>>58511109
What happened with rate cut July and September?

>>58511111

>>58511117
I think they will cut rates in September, but maybe not July

>>58511054
Good luck, anon. Obviously the hard part is predicting which stocks will be the big ones for the pumps. I missed out on BNED because I thought 0.9 would be as high as it would go but then it shot to 1.3. Just take it easy and focus on the small profits. In the end, being in the green is as good as you can ask for, regardless of the amount

>>58511136
What's about 2% or higher longer

>Target and LuluLemon both reported sales drops today. Consumer stocks not doing well.
>home buying fell a little last month
>UK inflation down to 2.3%

Is it too late to get BOIL?

>>58511272
Yes

>>58511272
man, as long as you dont ever hold it, BOIL is always there

Fuck it, I just bought CONY with my gambling fund. What am I in for?

>>58510887
I bought 2 days ago. Keep on keeping on.

/smg/ on biz is so slow homie, where my foos at homles, sock check vato let me see if you bang

>it keeps dropping

>>58511675
Spensa foo

>>58511675
Were on /bant/

Why not just invest in financial transaction moats like mastercard etc? no matter what happens in the world the financial transactions will continue. No downside.

>>58512016
*destroys your moat*

>>58512035
>do a big gamble on bitcoin going from $60k or whatever to millions
I'm not insane or a kid with $5k to invest

I WILL BE HOLDING THESE TSLA BAGS FOREVER. ELON STOP TRIGGERING RETARDED NORMIES.

>>58512035
Nobody spends Bitcoin

NVDA to 1k in 15 mins

It's incredible that with all the consistently bad fundamental news the only thing that actually matters is whether or not 1 company reports good earnings or not.

>>58512241
>muh bad fundamentals

brought you by the authors of such classics as "everything is too expensive right now, always" and "buy low, sell high".

Fundamentals are for dividend stocks and roth ira's

here we go

>>58512260
Well im just saying that inflation is going back up and the fed literally just said "we are really getting more open to the idea of a rate hike again" but it doesn't matter because as you passive aggressively pointed out after missing my point - Fundamentals actually don't matter.

I came to laugh at NVDA dumping but it pumped 5% in 2 seconds after I got happy seeing red

beat on the top and bottom, 10 for 1 stock split

Bulls are back

>>58512241
What companies shares do you think are used as collateral for the doom bull?

nvda golden bull run

1 NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>tfw bought TSM calls as a sympathy play
i coom

>>58512299

we live in a simulation

Fuck I sold my nvda shares because it usually goes down around earnings. I checked the after hours and it’s $1015


What the fuck !???

SOMETHINGS GOT TO GIVE

It’s a an election year and a Democrat wants to be re-elected. Of course Nvidia will continue to rise

is there a reason to not just pour all my savings into dividend kings?

>>58512611
>it went up after last year's earnings
bros on bullshit

interesting - same crew spamming here as on /bant/

>>58512662
No burger talk atm, though

>>58511380
expect about a year of divvies and 20-30 range trading, if it gets popular much more, if not sideways forever while paying divvies until management makes some real bad calls, but should be good for 12-14 months at least

where my CONY bros at? seems like it likes to jump up a week before the dividend pays out before dumping for the next 3. i guess this is normal for a dividend stock? never cared about divvies until i started dealing with this stock.

>>58512858
I'm probably just gonna dump if it hits 30, tbqh

>want to buy NVDA call before report
>can't afford it
fbm
Only bought one share instead.

You fucking faggots in past threads who doubted NVDA. Lol, lmao even.

How do you stop them

I literally dumped my whole NVDA position 2 days ago

Day trade = within same day.
But is same day considered within say, today's Wednesday. Or 24 hours? So 1pm Thursday if I made a 1pm Wednesday trade?

>>58513223
Why would you want to? Just join and make a lot of money

So Nvidia earnings are good, what are we thinking about AMD tomorrow, /bant/us? Will it moon due to sympathy and being beaten down? Nvidia is already at ATH.

>>58513327
Oh this isn't /bant/ it's the shitty retard board nevermind lmao.

Unironically kys if you post here.

Give me a good stock tip.

Would be funny if the nvda party lost all its gains by AM

Kneel

>>58513671
No. Kike.

>>58513638
Quick scalps by Friday - GWAV, HOLO, LIDR, BNED
Long - commodities, robotics, AI, genomics

>https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-deliveries-china-delayed-by-state-regulator-review-source-says-2024-05-22/
Even China doesn't trust Boeing kek

Why is natural gas going up?

>>58514402
market faker manipulation. it pumped in the past 4 weeks more than it did when the US blow up nordstream and Russia started its policy of no gas for unfriendly countries.

many shorts, because the pump is irrational, means more incentive for market fakers to manipulate number to go up.

go short when the short volume declines

>>58514415
on another note, UK gas reached 2 year lows

>>58514418

>>58514000
funny, made another shitter account yesterday, had to block about 500 accounts from the public feed trying to advertise shit like this, crapto advertising and other "msm" propaganda. Please do everyone a favor and keep this shit on shitter, so you can be blocked sustainably

>>58514435
If you plan on buying into this pump, keep an tight stop loss for gas (~5%). I have a feeling that the manipulation is partly done as 2022 by US LNG tankers "taking their time" to reach European LNG ports

And here we go. Target for natgas July futures 3.16 today.
How I know, well I just know

>>58514438
Please do me a favor a go back to your safe place on twitter Ill post what ever the fuck I want faggot

I shorted NVDA, SPY, and QQQ.
I'm not falling for this obvious trap.

>>58514580
you are spreading brainrot that was propagandized by the application of the Smith-Mundt act on the US population. You are like a retarded cat dragging death mice into your home. Too retarded to understand why you get yelled

>>58514643
yeah - there wont be a retard fleecing and fake sell wall market faker price pulling

The market fakers pulling the price up really have no shame. Repetitive and precise like a swizz clock

>>58508735
i am pleased that i bought NVDA before they reported

I'm so mad at myself. I could have bought nvda yesterday. I could have closed my rotten Intel and oil positions and probably made some good money. And instead I just am sticking it out in Intel BEGGING it to fucking go up. I hate this shit.

>>58514750
and I was right
target hit, same fractal

next target 3.30 on the july contract

amazing how easy bot bait is to make profit
>find neo broker selling your data to market fakers
>take overleveraged small position
>take counter position with a broker that doesnt sell data
>profit

Why is BOIL up 10%?
Should I go long natgas?

>>58515105
because I bait market fakers and neo brokers trading customer data

I'm return >>58447463
I finally found time for stocks, taken your advices, and I tweaked my long-term ETF stock portfolio, rate it:
1) 15% [[low]] risk:
7,5% - SWPPX (15.52%)past 6 months
7,5% - FNILX (15.85%)past 6 months

2) 70% [[mid risk]]:
35% - USD (100% tech) (128.99%)past 6 months
10% - AIRR (Industrials 81,76%, financial 10.38%) (40.45%)past 6 months
7,5% - ITB (73.52% Consumer cyclical, 19.02% industrials, 7.46% materials) (20.52%)past 6 months
10% - COPX (Basic materials) (39.95%)past 6 months
7,5% - GRID (Industrial 57.90%, utilities 18.82%, tech 17.70%, consumer cyclical 5.56%) (26.29%)past 6 months

3) 15% [[high risk]]:
5% - HE (by anon advice)
5% - BETH (some diversification between btc / eth) (55.02%)past 6 months
5% - BITX (performance) (130.41%)past 6 months

I accept any advice, especially for high risk zone,

It really helps in the boomer market knowing the market manipulation strategies from crapto exchanges market fakers. Nothing ever changes, only that crapto market fakers have a bit more contenance where boomer faker are obvious as fuck with their crude bots

>Dow Jones down more than .5%
is the big crash finally here

>>58515202
the "pessimistic" view would be, that the "bullrun" from late 2022 - now was a V of V

What's up, niggers?

Time to buy puts. The Coombler is never wrong.

Holy fuck the mods killed /submachinegun/ didnt they.

Wow what the fuck. Those fucking trannies really fucked everything up and now /smg/ is finally dead.

Fuck you, you retarded trannies.

>/biz/ bozo bears were wrong on NVDA
>again

>>58515276
damn, imagine fucking her tits while she farts

Is this just a bunch of reactionary shit from cutfags mad that our still low rates aren't gonna get cut even lower? I'm getting a bit tired of these faggots.

This market is incredibly overvalued, the only reason people are still throwing money into the market is because they are trying to run away from inflation. Its despicable, stock evaluations across the board are 10 times higher than they ever should be, the correction will be biblical

>>58515382
will be based to see all the sex-havers getting destroyed when the market sinks 30-40% percent

I'm buying SQQQ. Just thought you guys would want to know. I'm not good at investing or anything but I have a feeling

>b-but muh dividends!
>b-but you can't just keep going up! you have to correct!
>b-but you can't buy at an all time high!
lol some of you shouldn't be buying stocks

NVDA
>is entirely dependent on a fake nation that is about to get razed to the ground by China
>stock split so to attract bag holding normies
Most blatant rug ever

>>58515831
>split
>go to a thousand
>split
>go to a thousand.

The gay and fake market is getting real tiresome.

>>58515874
>one Chinese invasion
>company that is “too big to crash” goes to zero

you guys are so peeved about missing out lmao

>>58516093
missing out? Is NVDA going to stop growing over the next 5 years?

CRASHING WITH NO SURVIVORS

this is when you buy retards

>only thing in the universe going up is NVDA
>managed to lose money on NSDQ despite NVIDIA surge
Make it fucking make sense

Sigh.
I had made some nice gains with AVAV. Then I sold my holding there and sat on the proceeds for a while, trying to decide what to do with them. Eventually I got a bit stressed and was like, fuck it I'll put it into some ETFs. That was yesterday.
Sigh.
My timing is terrible. I'm just trying to escape inflation.

>>58516391
Same.
>Make bank on NVDA
>lose bank on SOXL and SBUX
"Diversify your portfolio" my ass

>>58508735
>>58508735
GOY THIS SI
>STOCK STOCK MARKET OFFICIAKLED
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>>58510120
>>58510453
>>58510455
>>58510491
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>>58510097
COINelp i tried>XRP VERY GUDE
XRP OH YES. janniesebayebayebay EBAY let 1 /SCG/ shitcoin general run, then they started shadowbanning them(making them unbumpable)

but they are tire
>>58510031
goodluck /biz/ bros, they are dead set on killing this board. after being here since the start i won't be returning. this board has precisely zero utility if we can only discuss janny-approved coins
>POLKADOT IS GOOD YES
catch me on twitter and private TG'sOR
>CLAP ebayebayebay EBAY
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>>58508998
>>58509552
WHEREPEPEGER WIUTH DIP POLAKTOR YES
>ANIME PENIS
>>58516446
STOCK MARKET

>>58512016
good idea
is there an etf that consolidates them all?

>>58515276
Sup newfags. Let me let you all in on a little secret. The stock market discussion thread has moved to /bant/. We will no longer be subject to tyrannical tranny janny control.

>>>/bant/smg
>>>/bant/smg
>>>/bant/smg
>>>/bant/smg

36 DTE short put vertical on AAPL. It's down 2% today so I felt like that was a good entrance. Probability of profit is weak at 64% but I still feel good about it.

Am I retarded?

>>58516391
NVDA is a blatant exit pump
China will invade Taiwan conveniently right after the stock split sending it to zero

>>58516976
nope. it's a new paradigm.

yuge pump melted away but still green for the day.

I came back after like a year, why is /smg/ so slow now?

>>58518409
vaxx tax

>>58518409
Thought it was a joke, but legit looks like it migrated as red board /biz/smg/
>>58516920

FUCK JANNIES

>>58508735
Should I buy the dip at 9:30AM or wait till the 3PM bell? My broker only allows those two times. Futures are green so I'm thinking wait till 3PM.

>>58518409
most people refugeed to bant smg.

Basically I just started getting into the market and I needed to make some quick buck immediately, no time to study and get a degree. I'm not retarded and worked in tech so I know to read graphs and I noticed patterns but somehow yesterday everything was outside my predictions. I am mad because I lost 10% of the capital I put aside for trading but I'm even more mad because I missed the BNED opening spike to answer a phone call of a friend who just needed to bitch about some slut he's hitting on and he's that kind of friend who whenever I tell him about getting into trtading he goes like "nah it's like gacha dude you need a proper job, open a business like a bakery or a restaurant or something, you never gonna make it" basically never encourages me and naturally he's not willing to pay the restaurant's rent for me, nor the furniture, or cover for losses if it goes bad because as if there aren't already 10 restaurants per square kilometer. Anyways, how comes the market started acting so random yesterday? did I miss any news? I was looking mostly at tech companies like GOOG, MSFT and QCOM but I noticed even GS and other financials had the same issue.

Maybe he never was my friend, he knew I was busty because the market had just opened yet he didn't give a flying fuck and continued discouraging me even after I told him I missed on a net 20% profit to answer his phone call.

I don't get why all my shit is going down except Nvidia, is everyone just selling to buy their stock?

>>58519873
That's what I was trying to understand.

You know what, I'm gonna bet all on BNED at opening and go for a 10% profit. IDGAF anymore, if I lose all I'll just enlist for Ukraine. No friends, no family, no gf, nothing to lose. Fuck this gay earth.

Come on grandpa accept the fucking bid, you're gonna die with Alzheimer in a couple years anyway.

>>58519873
a correction is in order, let's be honest. Expect to lose another 20% before we climb again

>still one hour
Pain. I want off this ride.

Damn they bidding for thousand shares, it might actually skyrocket at opening today. Now, if the lag doesn't fuck me up...

Go down further, bitch. It's all or nothing.

What is /smg/ working on today? I can't be the only one awake at this hour.

Dude look at TSLA computer.
lol
lmao

>>58520457
Elon fucked up when he announced about buying twitter and then waited like 2 weeks before he actually did it. The hype with Tesla died that time and every zoomer hates EVs now anyways.

>>58520467
nobody ever liked EVs. Tesla rode on a socialist subsidy induced bubble, with opportunists expecting communists in governments to force their products on consumers and destroying competition.

Socialists got fucked, the market said niet, and chinese, US and European producers sit on unsellable crap resulting from socialization of capital risk. So they made their profits while everyone pays for the electro scrap.

Praise socialism

>>58520475
yeah but had he bought twitter when the iron was hot and his face was on every tech magazine's home page, the value of tesla would've jumped off the charts.

>>58520448
most people are on the bant smg

>>58520492
Tesla is a valueless company in my books.
The only value its shares ever had was being a vehicle to funnel assumed future productivity of households around the world into individual profits now that got consumed. As the subsidy train derailed, Tesla shares are now valueless.
And about "hypes" resulting from behaviorism of sheep, no worth paying any attention to it

huh?

>>58520475
You're an idiot, but only slightly.

>>58520537
Non of the statement in that post is wrong.

splitting the thread is a DUMB idea.
There, I said it.

>>58520546
>chinese, US and European producers sit on unsellable crap resulting from socialization of capital risk
When the gov't is passing bills restricting production of conventional motor vehicles, this is wrong, which is what makes you only slightly an idiot. The rest is right. EVs are here to stay.

>17 minutes
>price already going up again
Watch me blow my savings up in 30 mins /smg/.

>>58520559
What makes do you think it will be TSLA that will profit off that?
BYD is better and cheaper.
TSLA is dead.

>>58520559
>When the gov't is passing bills restricting production of conventional motor vehicles, this is wrong
That is not going to happen. The public support is not there
>Evs are here to stay
nope, just like natgas powered cars, niche market that is dying without subsidies

>>58520569
really, did everybody forgot why the world runs on oil? It just has an unbeatable calorific value. Ideology cant compete with physical reality

Do not yield bros, don't bend to the will of the jews. Keep it under 0.63 and we gonna make it.

It's gonna be over soon ,innit... been nice knowing you smg.

Of fuckinjg course my internet had to lag and reset my IP of fucking course.

I hope anyone else managed to make the best out of today BNED's opening spike.
If you didn't know about BNED you're welcome.

So any /k/ chad got his eyes on Anduril? when are we expecting an ipo? That shit might be the next lockmart they got massive influence on the military brass

seems like a good time to buy NVDA

>>58520737
How much are you actually putting into this? the margin seems a little low and 20 minutes ago was a better time from what I see.

I mean you would have needed to have invested 10k or more 20 minutes ago to have been able to make 100 USD out of NVDA. Does anyone here have that kind of capital even? and 100 is basically nothing and this is assuming the price stays stable (which is not the case since it already dropped while I was writing this). This excluding commissions as well.

>>58520765
what is leverage and hell no, nobody in his right mind is touching Nvidia with a ten foot pole. Everybody that wanted to speculate on "AI" is in, the only ones still playing with it are kamikaze bears trying to time the top

>>58520778
Thank goodness I'm not crazy. The best time for new investors was 2 days ago following the MS deal and that's it. You would've gained a 10% profit by now which still isn't a game changer but better than 1%.

>>58520790
overvalued crapco, that only rode on the assumption that "AI" is going to be in every business, yesterday, which is not the case. Its going to be another episode of it sitting on warehouse of unsellable hardware while shitco paper holders try to find greater fools

Yesterday FNED hit a low around 10:40 then a high before closing. Do you think it's gonna repeat? there seems to be a short recurring low from the past days.

Nope the pattern is changing it seems. If it goes under 6100 again it may be a good chance to try again. Missed that 6k low few mins ago damn.

Why these fags buying at overprice... come on drop the fuck down.

GIVE IT UP GRANDPA IT'S JUST 5 CENTS

I'm not paying over 6099 for this shit. Whoever bid that 1000x6250 needs to chop his dick off.

Got 'em! now I wait. I expect peak after 15 like yesterday.

Shit it's not looking good... I think I'm gonna take a nap until 15 before I do something stupid.

>look up cheap trackers for Canada and Australia
>passive indices cost almost as much as active and specialist trackers

How the fuck are they okay with this? How do their companies even raise capital in this environment? For 25% of the OCR I can buy Korea or Taiwan via Franklin.

Damn can't sleep, I'm about to throw up, maybe too much coffee. Looks like I'm still in the green thank goodness. By the way I'm into BNED not FNED (typo).

Is /smg/ kill?

awwww yes. good day today. can't wait for this fucker run up when BTC is at 100k.

>>58521689
same my stock hit ath. feels good

>>58514858
so INTC is dead on the water?
should I hodl just for funsies?

well this isnt looking good ;-;

>5% loss
Should I keep trusting my theory or give up and try again tomorrow? I wasn't expecting the title to hit such a low today and the flow isn't looking good but there was a peak after 15 for the past 2 days that could very well happen today too. What does /smg/ think about it?

>>58522074
why are you touching BNED books and especially retail is dead?

>>58522074
Whats your gameplan?

>>58522208
They talked about working on a 45M project that's taking life next month and the price of their stock has spiked since 2 weeks ago and returned to what it was in mid April.
>>58522215
I was planning to make a gain only from the opening which looks pretty solid (today's peak was 7541) but I thought I could do more if I tried a little harder, otherwise I would've stopped for today. The price spike right before the closing that happened yesterday and the day before made me think I could do it but it's looking kinda bad right now, the stock hit a new low 5510 in the past hour.

>>58522253
you def shouldnt have try it on a Friday heading into a holiday weekend but i am pretty sure that bitch is just going to crab down into bankruptcy. your best option would have been to shill it over at reddit. photoshop you going big into it and try to convince them to push like GMC,AMC and those other meme stocks. you still got time anon no need to worry, how many bags are you holding with it?

>>58522253
Buy the rumor, sell the news. Sounds like you bought the news.

>>58522304
You mean for a long-term growth? I didn't plan to bet much longer with them really, just until mid June maybe but today's mistake is gonna cost me a bit. I got 3k shares bought for 0.6090 each today. I mean I can still make something off tomorrow's opening surely, probably for a couple weeks more. I just had to be retarded today and buy a second time.

>>58522388
>off tomorrow's opening
It's friday.

>>58522437
Fuck that's true, tomorrow is Saturday.
I guess I'm fucked. Pic related is what I was hoping for.

This mistake cost me 50 bucks. Welp.

>>58522480
some big analyst said retail should not trade under 1h time frame. they will get killed by the big boys.

>>58522698
1h from the closing? I'm no expert as you can see but this stock looks like it always goes up at last moment. I know it's usually the opposite. I mean just now it reached 0.6150 again before dropping to 0.5800 and that's a fat 6% shift.

>>58522733
under 1 hour time frame.

And it's over. Recap of last 2 days of trading:
>lost 15% return yesterday because I answered an useless phone call
>lost 10% of my piggy bank today because of greedy choice

>>58522753
Do you mean I held my stocks for too long? I did miss the chance to sell for 6400 at one point not longer after I had bought them for 6090 now that I think about it.

>>58522798
how old are you anon? im curios do you have a diversify portfolio or are you trying to day trade to build something?

bought the NTES dip

>>58522985
I'm trying day trade to get my family out of debt. My old parents used to run a business but it's gone since 2021 due to Covid and there's almost 1 mil worth of unpaid taxes to get rid of. It's not under my name so I could ignore it but it's not like I'm working a good job either and I'm over 30 so I could really be glad to make some good real money with day trading. For the future plans I just wanted to buy a bunch of suburb houses in the US and rent them off through Airbnb. Also I'd love a V10 Audi R8.

>>58523086
buying anything Chinese grows anon just ewww

CONY!

>>58523128
I generally agree with that, but netease is big enough to not be sketchy

>btc crabs
>pops out 20% of no news
>look at other miners and see a good day recovery for top crypto miners

not even 100k yet

>>58523096
>Gambling money to get out of debt
Sounds like a plan, keep it up!

>>58523096
>It's not under my name so I could ignore it
yes absolutely you should if you were younger i would say to start with long term stocks for that compound int and div but your a old dog. you need something that might make you not work all your life. look into (HE) and maybe something that reddit might be shilling for that hail mary. you really should ignore all that debt though dont be a tard and give uncle sam more money for israle

If an option expires today is it processed with respect to the price when the market closed or if it moves in the post market does that affect the exercise outcome?

I sold some cash secured puts, they expire(d) today. At 4pm the stock price was just below the strike, in the post market the price has gone up beyond the strike price. If the puts stay OTM until tomorrow, should I expect the shares in my account or not?

>>58524025
When the market closed.

>In this market, the last available price of the underlier, which is used to determine whether an option is automatically exercised, is the price of the regular-hours trade reported last to the Options Clearing Corporation at or before 4:01:30 pm ET on the Friday before expiration. This trade will have occurred during normal hours, i.e. before 4:00 pm. It can be any size and come from any participating exchange. The OCC reports this price tentatively at 4:15 pm, but, to allow time for exchanges to correct errors the OCC does not make the price official until 5:30 pm

Don't let your options expire. It's often very high risk as you will need to buy at the price the next following trading day and afterhours/premarket could shift the price significantly and fuck you in the ass.

>>58524025
Also an option holder can exercise up to 1.5 hours after trading closes. You'll be notified tomorrow if you were assigned.

>>58524171
>>58524187
Interesting, so the strike price of the options contract doesn't protect me from price movements in the after market, or at least up until 1.5 hours after close?

I'll have to check some of my past options expirations, I mostly sell far OTM covered calls and most of the time I roll them on Fridays. For these cash secured puts I was willing to purchase the shares at that strike price but wanted to get some experience with puts, this is the first time I've experienced aftermarket movement of one of my options go from ITM to OTM.

>>58508735
I just received an inheritance of 234,000 euros. I live alone, feeling fully depressed, with no parents, in Central Europe (a former communist country). I work at a logistics company, earning 27,000 euros a year for 8 hours a day. What's the best investment to generate at least 2,000 euros a month in passive income so I won't need to work anymore? Should I consider stocks, bonds, mutual funds, or ETFs?
Bonds seem interesting , how about high dividend stocks?

>>58524239
Listen to me. That is family money, and you are the conservator. Your primary concern is to PRESERVE THE PRINCIPAL -- in other words, the money itself. That means Treasury bills, which will net you 5.26% annualized for a 90-day T-bill. I understand there is something called a Euro-Treasury that pays a bit less, but you won't get reamed by exchange rates. Take multiple overlapping short term T-bills so that one is always coming due every month or two. That will give you the rate of return you are looking for, but over time the principal will shrink due to inflation.

Take perhaps 20% of the total and designate it as your investment capital; that is the safe old stodgy rule. Put half of it in a good mutual fund; I have had good luck with PRWAX. The other half you can average into said mutual fund or fart around with individual stocks. Applied Materials is good right now. So is McKesson, which manufactures more pharmaceuticals than God and has shown itself to be very stable.

Don't quit your job. Don't gamble. Don't invest in things you don't understand or dabble in day trading. I got a fraction of what you did from my grandmother and by being very very careful I was able to grow it into a fair-sized nest egg. Good luck.

GAMESTOP LOL

>>58524239
do 100k in XOM 50k in KO, i would prob gamble 10k to 20k on HE and the rest on SPY

.

>>58524383
I agree with you, Anonymous. I won't quit my job because I don't have a degree, so it will be stupid to quit. job, this is family money, but I have the right to 100%. Prwax can be bought if you are a US citizen
>>58524435
Note bro

so do i buy boeing or

>>58524455
thats a loaded question are you going long or short. if your going short wait that bitch is going to fall more in the coming months with how many platforms are having issues i can see it sink a bit more. if your going long start buying 20 percent of your budget in there. keep buying the dips boeing isnt going no where the USA isnt going to let such a highly valuable company go belly up so i can see it chugging along and going back up in 3 to 5yrs

I put my entire 401k into VFFSX.

what flavor of sparking water should i get to stop me from drinking? thinking of some cheeky orange vanilla from waterloo.
in stock market terms, of course.

>>58524644
magic mushrooms, big dose once

is there any good reason to own an "international equity" fund in my 401k? i often read that its supposed to be good because if the us market tanks you're not off as bad but either way i'll still be down bad, and all the time that i'm not in the us market i'm earning a measly like 5% on this shitty fund that probably is poorly tracking some arbitrary idea of what the international market is. the other thing i read is that you want to get a piece of booming foreign economies but when that foreign economy makes up 5% of my fund i won't see any of it and will just see the other dozen countries collectively shitting the bed and i'm better off in s&p 500. you could get a managed one that tries to invest in the booming countries but then you're paying fees out the ass that rapes all your gains anyways and im once again better off in s&p 500.

You have 200 USD that you can afford to lose (but don't want to ofc). How would you invest them for best possible gains within a week time?

dont remember who said it but said you need to consider gambling a like a full time job and do the work hours too.

maybe livermore.

>>58525311
Alibaba was undervalued last time I checked.
Gold mining stocks and copper would be good if you buy the dip and are willing to wait longer than a week.
It's only a matter of time til another provocation causes people to sell their dollars in droves and cause gold to go up against the dollar...

What do you think happened here? I can't find any news about anything that could impact this stock negatively.

>>58525319
Alibaba on NYSE? the price looks a bit too stable though. I'll deffly look into gold and copper mining companies.

https://in.investing.com/news/company-news/verastem-stock-target-cut-on-trial-results-keeps-buy-rating-93CH-4214926
>BTIG has responded by lowering their stock price target on the biopharmaceutical company to $13.00 from the previous $27.00
So it was this whale's fault. What's their endgame? won't this stock go up once FDA approves the new therapy?

Rock is thrown... more like a grain of sand than a rock but whatever. See you on Monday.

>>58525311
gas station scrach offs or buy a gun with a mask and start making some money going after single mothers

>>58525311
a job application

>>58525311
Get some nice clothes and take a look at the obituaries. Look for men with money. Find the elderly wives. Profit.

>>58525858
thats actually not a bad idea if you dont mind old pussy. i was banging a 50yr when i was 22 and she bought me so much shit. she even payed my rent for a year just so i was closer to her shit was great until i finished college and had to move away

>>58525752
I'm not of African descent.
>>58525769
Why? I got a job as video surveillance installer and maintainer. Used to do the same for amazon warehouses and the pay was pretty good but now I work with a small business and the pay is alright even though it's nothing close to was it used to be.
>>58525858
What the fuck man where's our dignity? I'd rather fight in Ukraine than put my willy in a bag of skin.

Anyways I'm hyping VSTM on some sites, for what it's worth. It seems like BTIG did a precision cut for future potential so I expect a spike on Monday, it's very risky but I decided that's where I'm investing these 200 bucks I put aside for stocks like this. I'll be more careful with the 1800 USD that remain in my trading account, most likely putting them in longer term profit stocks.

VSTM actually ranked the LOWEST in NASDAQ yesterday lmao. This is gonna be fucking great.

For the record.

Quit my job. Feels good and feels bad at the same time.
At least I've made $50k on nvda and growing.

>D'UH
>D'UH
>D'UH
>D'UH
>D'UH
>D'UH

>>58526411
How? did you actually have 400k worth of shares already invested before 5 days ago or was it over multiple trades?

>>58526643
I worded it poorly but I've been in since ~$350/share
Wish I had put more in at the time ofc.

>>58526646
You made a lot with a few, the objective of most.

>>58525376
if* FDA approves new therapy. I kinda want to buy some given how cheap its just gotten, but i know often times thats a terrible idea

>>58527035
After news sites started catching up, I came across this article: https://investorplace.com/2024/05/why-is-verastem-vstm-stock-down-62-today/

>The company is conducting a Phase 1/2 clinical trial of avutometinib plus defactinib in combination with gemcitabine and Nab-paclitaxel. The results were positive and that initially saw VSTM stock rally higher this morning. However, investors quickly noticed the safety data included in these results. 12 patients in the trial suffered from emergent serious adverse events. That includes 11 with grade ≥3 events. Among these were blood bilirubin increase, biliary obstruction, febrile neutropenia, pulmonary embolism, sepsis, anaemia, pneumoperitoneum, septic shock, skin infection and more.

It's a risky treatment, most likely because it's still in the early stages and needs to be tweaked through more clinical trials but at the current stage of development you gotta weigh the risk of running into any of the side effects above vs the results it can shows on the cancer. I didn't mention my personal experience to avoid dox but my mom actually died from cancer, the best oncology department of my state tested a new medicine on her which didn't have any positive results but it cost her several days spent going through the therapy anyways, she could've spent those days home in peace or on vacation since her death was inevitable. So much time spent just traveling from home to the hospital almost every day and several hours a day spent sleeping on the hospital bed during the therapy, all precious time that could be spent differently. What's worse it was during the quarantine and relatives weren't even allowed to accompany the patients inside the department. When the doctors realized nothing could be done and she was discharged, she was already on the verge of death, in facts she died home less than a week later. If a relative or family member of yours is going through cancer, I wish you the best of luck.

wait why is SMG so dead? i just realized the thread was started on 5/21? wtf?

>>58527392
When /biz/ started requiring emails, a lot of people moved to /bant/, and they are slowly filtering back here, but /bant/ is still more popular right now

>>58527392
So it's not always like this? I started posting here yesterday only but I assume it's because what anon above said. Asking for email feels like reddit, unless you wait 15 minutes to make the first post.
Or maybe everyone made a fortune with tech stocks and moved on from 4chan to live their life.

>>58527403
/bant/ lets people post offtopic lolicon and porn to smg those people won't ever come back.

>>58526643
Options let you get there with less than $400k newfriend.

This thread and everyone in it is an embarassment

>>58526032
>I'd rather fight in Ukraine than put my willy in a bag of skin
ngmi with that attitude

NEW @_@

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