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>>58502319
a lot of the market movements are fake?

>>58502319
dr;ns

>>58502319
i just bought 20 cents, when does it turn into a million bucks so i can cash out?

>>58502319
we are THE cuckolds of crypto, its just that simple. all other coins are allowed to feast on our accomplishments

Eth has big players behind it since inception.

Sol changed hands from powerful influntial market makers (FTX) to another group of powerful influntial market makers (Galaxy, Pantera, Social Capital, etc).

Link has non of that.

>>58504225
>Eth has big players behind it since inception
>somehow link does not hehe

fuddies really need new material
your arguments make no sense since at least last August

>>58502319
solana does indeed make no sense at all
but the eth/link split is obvious, an approved etf means immense buy pressure without any corresponding dumps is coming soon so the market frontruns that liquidity injection
meanwhile link news while good doesnt imply any certain timeline for liquidity injections or buy pressure that the fat man doesnt brutally dump into
so that is only long term speculators jumping in right now

its so demoralized nothing will change until there is real demand and we have no idea yet when that happens since nobody ever stated a clear timeline

>>58504236
those are partners that care about the utility link offers, not partners that make money on line going up
thats the major difference on why absolute garbage like sol can violently moon while link cannot yet

>>58504338
>that the fat man doesnt brutally dump into
And by "brutally" you mean "completely averagely"?

You've known about the dumps for over 6 years, and there are still over 400 million to be dumped, and yet you still whine about it dozens of times every single day.
You need to unironically kys

>>58504349
it isnt about the volume its about dumping on every uptick killing all sentiment
you know the graphs as well as i do, sergey loads up binance before any upmove and brutally buries it

>>58504364
>dumping on every uptick
What?

>>58504349
>And by "brutally" you mean "completely averagely"?
mind broken faggot thinks it's normal now

>>58504407
It literally is. Something like half of top coins dump as much or the same.
And most of the best gainers dump (a lot) more.

People in tradfi have no clue what swift is and it’s been the industry standard for half a century they use it everyday. Expecting a LINK pump off speculation/news alone will always be suppressed due to there not being a lot of people that know what the tech can do. Actual adoption and user fees are when the money will come on when they are physically paying in link for the 10% discount. At the end of the day DTCC thing was just a proof of concept, great news awesome I love it but who is really keeping up with dtcc poc’s? These are the same people waited/are waiting for a btc and eth ETF simply because they did not want to learn how crypto actually works and thought the legality around it was too risky in the year 2024.

>>58504431
schizo-tier gaslighting

>>58504438
He holds link and gets his life’s fix from instigating (you)s…I wouldn’t understand why, I’m happily married.

>>58502319
probably nothing, still has a shitty oracle and is 20x slower than Supra or Pyth

I just think link will moon to $100+ soon

>>58504431
>simply because they did not want to learn how crypto actually works
i disagree. most etf buyers are organisations for whom managing pvt keys is too risky since crypto can be stolen a lot easier than something in a share format.
>Actual adoption and user fees are when the money will come on when they are physically paying in link for the 10% discount
if they pay in another format the proceeds are used to buy Link.
Do you really not know this stuff?

>>58502319
I keep holding this thing like I expect it'll be different *this* time it pumps counter-market. Like this is the one that will *actually* pump, properly pump, like it keeps going, past your expectations. Like August 2020. But it never is.

I need a 4x to make it and I'm effectively certain LINK will not do that between now and cycle end. It always needs some shade and a Mountain Dew after even the mildest upward move, even after 600 days spent in ranged consolidation. The fact the DTCC news sent certain portions of the community into a frenzy despite it being little more than a re-announcement of what they've all but shouted at us that they're doing for years already really says it all for how far away meaningful adoption is.

Idk what I'm doing here anymore frens. I feel like I've made this post a million times already, but I just think I've fucked it up all over again by holding this piece of shit after promising myself I'd learn from my 2021 mistakes. I've cut my hopes way down already, right down to the bone as far as the performance needed to make the toll of the past few years on my life -- nevermind the opportunity cost, a separate tragedy -- "worth it". I feel otherwise "ready" to make it, but I think I'm cursing all of you by holding this because God simply isn't going to allow it. He's been practically yelling at me that it won't happen for at least a year now. I never used to talk to God either, that's new, as well as the alcohol. That's enough now. Gl anons, I mean it.

>>58505202
>another wall of shitty fud
you people are pond scum

>>58505202
>have been here for seven long-suffering years
>honestly share my opinion as we trade at $16 in 2024 after underperforming the market for many years
>have lost in the hundreds of thousands due to my poor decision to continue holding this token still trading at 70% drawdown on ATHs
>friends and family getting married, buying homes, including my younger brother
>hope to relate to others and gain some perspective
>"YOU MOTHERFUCKING POND SCUM CHARLATAN"
Okay.

>>58505221
rope yourself disgusting paid shill, that's the actual sentiment of REAL long-term holders whether you like it or not, now go fuck yourself with a cactus
>>58505248
ignore the retard fren, at least one other anon gets you

>>58502319
Linkies shall inherit the Earth
fuddies will seethe, cope, and an hero

>>58505257
>that's the actual sentiment of REAL long-term holders
No it's not it's a pile of shitty fud and you're human garbage, doing your best to demoralise people. I've held since 2017 and i have none of these issues. Your mother never loved you and you're a shit human being. Crawl under a rock and die.

>>58502319
Retard if an Eth etf is approved a Solana etf is next since any objections that died for Eth (eth is an unregistered security) also die for Solana

Furthermore nobody cares about your 2017 shittoken's "partnerships" (really just an experimental pilot trial, ripple had hundreds of those and nothing ever came of them)

>>58505257
wowow duh you stupid faggot

>>58505283
T. Pondscum

>>58505283
Look how deranged and unhinged your insults are and contrast it against how plainly you'll say you "have none of these issues". You certainly have some kind of issue, anon. You're evidently not unbothered yourself. Even so, why would my experience bother you so much in your ivory tower?

>>58505283
>hurr durrr no actual OG can be displeased and demoralized and completely disillusioned after 7 years of ZERO actual IRL adoption durr durr
>y-y-you're trying to demoralize me!!11
oh really? but you DON'T have these issues, so WHY are you getting demoralized?
yeah, you're not fooling anyone, shill
get fucked

>>58504349
>the founder is only averagrely dumping on my head, not brutally
Lmfao if your founder was properly aligned with the holders and believed in the token long term he wouldn't be dumping at all...

>>58505248
Why don't you sell and move on, then?
Fudders can NEVER give an answer to that. They squirm and offer up drivel but you never get a convincing answer.
>this project is shit
>but i'm going to keep it!
sure

>>58505306
>if your founder was properly aligned with the holders and believed in the token long term he wouldn't be dumping at all...
This, fuck Satoshi!

>>58505315
They live in a universe where holding Link is mandatory, and you can either be happy about it or upset.

>>58505315
For what it's worth, my stack is smaller than it ever has been. I'm probably overallocated, sure, but you and your ilk always try to brush past the effect of having been in the weeds with the likes of you, who has an allergic freak-out over discussing the realities of price action, the possibility we're already halfway into the process of "skipping a bullrun". You know what it's like. To hold so long requires a sort of calcified conviction that is hard to let go of, even when reality has run counter to that conviction for four fucking years running. I've bought more of other things, but LINK has unquestionably been sat down by the market since 2020 and I'm living and sharing the consequences of it.

>>58505315
if you are an OG can you please explain to me how exactly did /biz/ reached the consensus that LINK is the best bet in crypto? do you remember how LINK established itself here back in 2017-18?
where you even here?
because LINK was debated to DEATH here, everybody was trying to find holes in the "4IR God Protocol" narrative, and despite everything, LINK prevailed
THAT'S what the "Fudders" (current or ex-holders most of the time) are actually accomplishing, in stark contrast to you, mindlessly cheering for everything the team does or does not, exactly like XRP, XMR, GME shills on this god forsaken board
you are literally EVERYTHING wrong with /biz/ and crypto in general
sincerely kys

>>58505351
>you, who has an allergic freak-out over discussing the realities of price action
oof, pretty sure it's the fuddies having the freak-outs

>>58505316
Satoshi didnt sell a dime friend

>>58505363
why are you trying to equate a reasonable take like this>>58505202
to unhinged spamming?
why are you being so disingenuous right now?
are you another paid shill, instead of an "organing holder"?

>>58505363
Uhh... "oof"? Are you serious? "Oof"?
Followed by completely irrelevant picrel?
I think reddit's more your gear.

>>58505357
>link is shit because i say so but it's also the god protocol and it's wonderful
the absolute state of this fud kek these morons are unhinged
look at them all piling in on this. is anyone stupid enough to buy this crap they spout? dear me

>>58505368
Source?
Also, Satoshi dumped ungodly amounts of inflation, especially in the early years.

>>58505371
epic ID

>>58502319
sergey dumped on you with a token thats dumped by node operators and stakers. he refuse to flip the switch to have some buying pressure. What did you expect

>>58504174
lmao if CLL sell offs and fuckery prevent me from making it then i'm paying them a visit. I'm OK with waiting but if they fuck me over then I'm stabbing Sergey with Ari's femur.

>>58504368
lmao newfag detected

>>58505386
I never said anything like this you gaslighting worm
kys
>>58505392
thanks

>>58505409
Source that Sergey is selling "every uptick"?

>>58505371
>>58505392
True, best id I've seen in a long, long time kek

>>58502319
I'm just not interested in a fat slav's dead coin.
every $LINK post on /biz/ confirms it's for retards only.

>>58505248
I bought a house and got married while also holding my 10k stink bag. I don't see why that would stop you.

>>58505438
Because no one wants to marry the cunt. I can barely suffer him itt. imagine living with the fucker?

Oh Sergey, how you've fucked us for the jews.

>>58505438
It's a point about stages of life, about time getting away from you.

>>58505536
For someone trying to emit this sense of impervious comfiness you really come off like a complete raving idiot the way things get under your skin so deep. There's really nothing controversial about being despondent about LINK's PA over the past 4 years. You should really step outside yourself for a second. There was no reason my posts should rile you up like this. Again, says it all.

>>58505368
Satoshi is the CIA brainlet

>>58505569
>the way things get under your skin so deep
t. the faggot who wrote this >>58505202

>>58505574
I'm not sure you actually made any point at all there. Was that supposed to make sense was it? A "gotcha"? How are those two things comparable? Sharing honest thoughts after seven years of holding a token on a niche area of the internet where anyone even has a chance of relating to you... versus making bizarrely insane and seething replies to those thoughts that show you've taken something personally despite the subject matter being completely impersonal? You guys absolutely reek of cope. Again, there is zero reason anything I've posted should have you guys in such a twist unless you're scraping the bottom of the barrel of desperation. You have no self awareness.

>>58505607
Are you getting paid by the word or something?

>>58505575
How did that refute my post in any way you mouthbrreather?

>>58505654
Yeah, maybe we should all be more like you. Thank God we've got you here with your massively value-adding contributions to the conversation thus far. Back in the day we'd debate fundies, breadcrumbs, research and do DD together cuz we all wanted to make it and benefitted from mutual contributions. Now, it's useless tiktok-brained zoomie residue like you. At least I tried to start a decent conversation that was directly related to the OP, agree or not.

>>58505569
>I so despondent but i simply cannot sell. everyone join me and we shall wallow in self-pity as we shoulder this burden together. oh, woe is me!
You are a fucking complete faggot with no spine who's also a boring kekfuddie. No one is buying your crap. Go away.

>>58502319
It's literally supply and demand. Look at the supplys of different coins circulating and wot not

>>58504225
LINK will be the third crypto asset to be granted an ETF.

Screenshot this.

>>58505763
Kek, don't look at Solana's inflation rate though haha
That would be weird

>>58505763
link has literally one billion in daily volume
more than half of the top 10

>>58502319
>PEPE is 23rd in the ranking by marketcap
>LINK is still 16th

The moment PEPE surpasses LINK I don't know what I'll do.

>>58502346
Basically.
Money slushes in randomly and a while later it slushes out randomly apropos or absolutely nothing.
The reason that people on this board like LINK is because it has confirmed partners and uses, it isn't just a random zero real world use shitcoin, over time it's a guaranteed winner.

>>58506116
More and more people in the space have realized meme coins like Pepe are unironically more honest investments than "utility" coins like Link that dump all over their investors under the guise of "building" a "usecase". Fast forward a decade later and they are still "building", "testing", updating "roadmaps", etc., with nothing tangible to show for it.

Both coins produce nothing, yet the meme has minimal overhead costs therefore when done correctly, has much better tokenomics and therefore is a superior investment. IMO Pepe eclipsing Link would be appropriate from a market value standpoint

>>58506436
kek

>>58502777
Checked, nice digits fren. WAGMI

>>58505766
>LINK will be the third crypto asset to be granted an ETF.
Yeah a premined shitcoin with a sketchy token ICO will get an ETF on the stock market. Lol lmao even

>>58505766
checked and agree. looks likely. eth etf approval could be within a week. Link looks certain to be next up, soon after

>>58505202
I agree with the sentiment regarding price, but on pure fundamental current usage/importance to the crypto space, Chainlink should comfortably be in the top 5 mcap. To add to this, Chainlink is the only coin besides BTC and ETH that you can comfortably trust to still be around in 10 years due to the problem they are solving and its entrenchedness in the ecosystem.
Furthermore, we have in the last year gotten direct first hand confirmation from SWIFT and DTCC that Chainlink is their chosen crypto interface, if such rumours made LINK reach #5 mcap in 2020, what would an actual implementation imply?
I will never exit this position completely until the whole TradFi/DeFi merge is achieved, the only remaining fud for LINK is that crypto itself goes to zero

>>58506436
early Pepe owners dumped all over holders. Nothing more honest about it, most of these were scams where the bag holders got carried away and somehow managed to keep the ship afloat. Same as Safemoon. That shit lasted a long time before it finally burst and even after that it took years for the baggies to capitulate, and even after the whole "team" went to jail people still think it might come back.

Chainlink actually produces value. It's way more "honest". The market just doesn't give 2 shits about that, they are happy to risk getting scammed and losing everything if it means they don't have to use their brains.

>>58507398
>early Pepe owners dumped all over holders
cross out the word Pepe and insert every single crypto to ever exist and it's still applicable

> most of these were scams

what makes an altcoin a scam? From an investment standpoint, I'd rather hold a "scam" that makes me multiple x's very quickly versus a "real" coin that does nothing but enrich the owners while destroying my holdings. But that's just me

>Same as Safemoon
not really the same

> after that it took years for the baggies to capitulate
also applicable to Link

>and even after the whole "team" went to jail people still think it might come back.
could still happen with Link

>Chainlink actually produces value. It's way more "honest"
L O L

>The market just doesn't give 2 shits about that, they are happy to risk getting scammed and losing everything if it means they don't have to use their brains.

the market is never wrong. No one is losing anything, except Link holders

>>58504338
>link news while good doesnt imply any certain timeline for liquidity injections or buy pressure that the fat man doesnt brutally dump into
the interest has expanded the content of the warchest so much that he needs funds to buy a bigger chest. please understand

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>>58507546
You're overthinking this. Its not that scams are smarter investments, its that the entire market is a casino until real world adoption. You can't pick any one scam and ride it, nor will you know which one is being pumped/dumped next without insider information (TA doesn't work and crypto whales specifically form fakeouts to fuck over TA traders).

Crypto is still going through its pets.com moment, its going to grow up eventually but things like link will be frontrun by speculators, you just won't be able to predict it. So one day its going to pump like it did last week, and you'll say "this rally will fail like all the rest", and it never comes back down, and if you weren't already all in you'll be left on the sidelines forever. Until that happens anyone holding link, which is 99% of the organic posters left on this shithole, are trapped in this hurtbox together fudding each other out because we all hate the fact that link didn't pull a 2017 eth already.

>>58508132
>he thinks link is better than petco, where the pets go
Cope

>>58508132
>Until that happens anyone holding link, which is 99% of the organic posters left on this shithole
This is exactly why all the Jeets hate it so much btw. They can’t think far into the future and just want everyone to buy their shitcoins.

>>58507823
Conner Shh

>just better yourself while you wait
I was doing this from 2019-2023 but now I'm just tired, the type sleep don't fix.
In the last year, I've gone from a lean 90kg to a fatty fucktard 120kg. I smoke now too.
The love of my life has left me and I'm in a dead end gorilla nigger job.
I'm fucking mid-30s what the fuck good is money when my cock won't work.
I used to aspire in building a community and helping family but I've become so black pilled I'm probably disappearing into SEA to never return when we finally make it in.

What sucks the absolute most about link is all the news and confirmations about how well it SHOULD be doing. The fact that it SHOULD be fucking skyrocketing or at least surpassing god damned dog and dog2.0 but can somehow go years and years without performing price-wise is what makes it such a grueling hold. Link is nothing but suffering and disappointment.

What will you guys do when PEPE surpasses chainlink kek?

>>58508652
>news and confirmations
No one cares about proof of concepts. Especially after years of hearing them.

>>58505751
What an angry midget of a man you are.

>>58508707
It's this simple. The announcement is not new information, not when so much of their marketing material has implied that this kind of collaboration has been happening already. What would be new is true adoption, true revenue streams.

and suddenly all the LINK defenders vanished
as if they're posting in 10 hour shifts
really makes you think

>>58505371
>wowowduh ID

>>58505788
Mention supply and demand to a link bagholder and its like the word demand completely rolls off them like water.

YOU HAVE NO DEMAND DIP SHIT

>>58508836
Never selling pools closed kys

>>58502319
>working with the 3
because working with is pretty vague. big companies do all sorts of trial tests and then abandon it. plsu sergey dumps too much. its literally the only thing left, linkies need to accept sergey sucks at this and isnt interesting in a viable token ecosystem.

>>58508921
"based" LPL chuddie kiddo how you doing "based" kiddos???

pools fucking closed

fucking seethe!

>>58508927
>1: argue with main point but not super in detail
>2: sergey dumps
>3: project will fail please sell

Thats your playbook. Everyone watch out for typing styles like this. Of course they’ll probably change it now.

>>58508937
>the hedgies are keeping us down!!
>they pay shills to fud a website with 40 posters on it now
kek whatever you want bud. you are right up there with xrp and gme now. enjoy your "breadcrumbs" and schizo ramblings.

>>58505607
Font bother. These people have descended into XRP and GME tier holders now who have no real discussion or any hint of evaluation.
The funny part is even mentioning the above sends them into a frenzy and assault where they believe you simply cannot see the truth, there is no way they are anything like those people.

Its so fucking sad.

>>58505202
I used to talk shit to Uncle OF back in the day, and for that period of time we ended up winning. Now I read the new twitter he made and everything he actually says makes sense. We pumped way back then with zero features to $50. Now we have all these "features" and cant break $20.

>>58502319
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK TRANNIES
FUCK KIKES
FUCK JANNIES
>NO NIGGERS ALOUD
NO NIGGERS ALOUD
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NO NIGGERS ALOUD

>>58509246
You're not wrong. It's been that way for a while too. Credit to the CL team for creating such an inexplicable loyalty I guess, but I just don't understand to what it is that these people are being so loyal. The relentless LINKETH bullying has been relevant and effective since 2020 and it's still just as effective now - it has not recovered. At all. It's STILL at those lows. I even used log because the ordinary chart looks so completely ridiculous. I mean, I wish I sold a lot more than I did but at least I was objective enough about the situation to sell some. What are they defending? What kind of knots must their heads be in to justify this shit? It's like an absurd comedy. I don't get it, anon.

>>58509256
Which account? Apeyieldgod? He's been on fire lately. Same with the Thomas account. But it's honestly like shooting fish in a barrel for them when the "community" reaches euphoria over a 20% move off a 75% drawdown on ATH.

>>58509264
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK TRANNIES
FUCK KIKES
FUCK JANNIES
>NO NIGGERS ALOUD
NO NIGGERS ALOUD
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>>58508870
>YOU HAVE NO DEMAND

>>58505813
>link has literally one billion in daily volume
>more than half of the top 10

hmmmm

>Michael’s obsession with saying how cool he is in the third person

>>58509246
>>58509309
>hurrr there's no real discussion!

All you're doing is whining about the price.

>>58509398
If you want to talk objectively about LINK price, it will always be whining because it's been getting eviscerated for years and still to this day does not feature in the key narratives this cycle. You guys would rather chew over the same pieces of news they've been sharting out since 2017 in the form of cute logo placements and secret speakers in Smartcon 0 etc that prove little more than that we're really no closer after seven years to anything outlined in the original WP. Just product bloat, big promises, and no revenue.

>>58509446
>we're really no closer after seven years to anything outlined in the original WP
The original WP was about an oracle network, and Chainlink is by far the biggest one of those in existence now.
And oracles are bigger than we ever could imagine, see defi.
I'd say we got what we were promised, and then some.

>>58509446
I probably wouldn’t keep holding an asset I was that angry about

>>58509452
We will keep holding and we will keep reminding the team and everyone what a piece of shit the project is in the twitter comments. Good projects are supposed to make their investors rich. Each post they make will be followed with a slew of negativity. This is what they deserve until the price goes up.

>>58509398
Fuck off. People talk a lot about the factors that have lead to bad price actually. In fact, in the email verification weeks i saw A LOT of such discussions, littered with childish bagholders screaming fud or whatever low effort posting. Ironically th low effort fud went and was replaced with people who wanted genuine discussion, it just, naturally, reflected the views of people who are critical and objective and that means it was not blind praise. You faggots cannot handle it. You live in a different reality.

You choose to ignore everything but what you want to see

>>58509542
Every day that you don’t sell LINK is a day you make a conscious decision that LINK is the best investment you can think of for that day.
The fact that you have been wrong for thousands of days in a row is entirely on you. The fact you chose to continue to be wrong by making the same call, every day, is entirely on you. You can sell today and put your money anywhere. You have access to the most live and open market in history.
Take some responsibility for your own decisions, that you continue to make, day after day.

>>58509543
>You faggots cannot handle it.
Judging by your butthurt levels, it's more like you can't handle it.

>>58509561
Don't care, I will keep fudding in the comments and you will stay seething.

>>58508927
>linkies need to accept sergey sucks at this and isnt interesting in a viable token ecosystem.
Who would you prefer? Do Kwon? Leemon Baird? Andre Cronje? Someone else who foisted a vapourware project on everyone and then bailed altogether?

I know it’s difficult for people to admit but Sergey for all his faults is probably one of the more trustworthy characters out there in the crypto world.

lol get a life you loser

>>58508616
the self improvement journey was always hilarious to me. I was already jacked before crypto, and still am. Frog coins don't require some mental masturbation self improvement bullshit, they just go up

>>58502319
is link worth investing in now?

>>58508652

>>58509338
Can you highlight the effect of volume in the following image?

Link niggers are constantly btfo by the most basic of all economic ideas: supply vs demand.

>>58511909
>posts the Link/ETH chart

ETH peaked against Bitcoin SEVEN years ago, and still has not recovered.
Guess ETH has no demand.