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>>58428189

I have a few coins and other silver items

how do I get a fair price for them?

I have a friend of mine who is a goldsmith and maybe we could design some jewels/rings etc

please help me

>>58428268
>how do i get a fair price for my precious metals
>my friend is a goldsmith
there you go.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176296272545
>silver at 25% of spot price
guys ... will you buy it? for science?

Just received my first stacks. I hope you guys were right about this being a good decision.

>>58428342
Stacking is a hobby as much as an investment. I like stacking dragons and memes.

>>58428573
forgot pic!

Threw in some dimes and nickles last buy, I like em bros. Might pick up quarters next

>>58428573
>stacking dragons
bet u dont even have a proper silver dragon...

>>58428720
a silver dragon is a shapeshifter. It would be almost impossible to know if you truly knew a silver dragon. Very nice panda's and lOVE
the dragon. Would use in tabletop settings.

>>58428654
War nickels?

>>58429281
constitutional silver

>>58428327
most of the coins I have actually have some numismatic value, so I don't really want to melt them

>>58429281
Got a couple war nickles in there. Most are '50s and postwar. About 25% merc too in the dimeroll gacha. I think I'll stick to straight merc rolls in the future.

This is how it starts isn't it anons...

>>58429628
>postwar nickels
uhhh, for your copper stack? I dont get it

>>58429646
nothin wrong with stackin some cupro-nickel

is 5 oz of gold enough to make it

>>58429646
Numististic interest mainly, plus low cost when I threw it into the dca cart for shiggles. They might only be 35% but they feel more sincere than most coins I've handled if that means anything

>>58428329
>555-COME-ON-NOW

>>58429674
enough to buy a nice house after the currency collapse

>>58429677
0% actually

>>58429732
OK Skippy you're right thanks for the sanity check. In this case I actually got shafted on most of these so I'm contacting apmex

One of the craziest things about bitcoin & crypto in general is how the elephant in the room gets ignored; the price can be easily manipulated. There's so much evidence that most of the volume on these exchanges is faked with wash trading. If a handful of groups are able to consolidate most of the bitcoin supply, they can manipulate the price.

We already know the spot price of precious metals can be manipulated through derivatives and stuff, but there's a good chance that will come to an end, just a matter of when. With crypto it's completely different though. The price of BTC seems to correlate to the stock market but there's usually no reason for the crazy pumps other than hype and/or wash trading from whales and/or exchanges that have their bitcoin supply divided among many different wallets. There hasn't been any widespread adoption at all, most people should of recognized how worthless it is during the first crash. But now it seems like it's being pumped to distract retail investors.

Think about how hard it is to actually talk with the crypto crowd in general about gold/silver. They laugh and point at the constantly pumping price of gold and say "look at how much btc has appreciated against the dollar compared to gold!" and while of course a pumping price doesn't mean it's proven itself as a true hedge against inflation, it's extremely difficult to argue with that line going up. It's the perfect distraction. Pump, pull back a bit, pump, pull back a bit on some news, huge pump; make it seem like there's real trade volume and keep people enamored with it. The banking cartel knows the dollar is on it's way out and is having a hard time selling the "economy is doing great" narrative in the media. So what to do ? Funnel that dollar rebellion into something the general public believes is "decentralized" and outside of central banking control.

One of the craziest things about bitcoin & crypto in general is how the elephant in the room gets ignored; the price can be easily manipulated. There's so much evidence that most of the volume on these exchanges is faked with wash trading. If a handful of groups are able to consolidate most of the bitcoin supply, they can manipulate the price.

We already know the spot price of precious metals can be manipulated through derivatives and stuff, but there's a good chance that will come to an end, just a matter of when. With crypto it's completely different though. The price of BTC seems to correlate to the stock market but there's usually no reason for the crazy pumps other than hype and/or wash trading from whales and/or exchanges that have their bitcoin supply divided among many different wallets. There hasn't been any widespread adoption at all, most people should of recognized how worthless it is during the first crash. But now it seems like it's being pumped to distract retail investors.

Think about how hard it is to actually talk with the crypto crowd in general about gold/silver. They laugh and point at the constantly pumping price of btc and say "look at how much btc has appreciated against the dollar compared to gold!" and while of course a pumping price doesn't mean it's proven itself as a true hedge against inflation, it's extremely difficult to argue with that line going up. It's the perfect distraction. Pump, pull back a bit, pump, pull back a bit on some news, huge pump; make it seem like there's real trade volume and keep people enamored with it. The banking cartel knows the dollar is on it's way out and is having a hard time selling the "economy is doing great" narrative in the media. So what to do ? Funnel that dollar rebellion into something the general public believes is "decentralized" and outside of central banking control.

>>58429784
I think this is why everyone is currently watching the BRICS+ meeting later this year in october. They've been teasing a gold backed stablecoin and the central banks of these BRICS nations have been stocking up on gold as much as possible. A lot of insiders are predicting that there will be a total revaluation of gold and silver between now and october. The only way for the USD to get replaced by another currency is by guaranteeing it's stability (hence by it'll be backed by physical gold reserves) and guaranteeing that it can't be weaponized with sanctions the way the USD can (hence the use of blockchain technology). They seem to have made all the preparations (stocking up on gold for the better half of a decade and deciding on the technology) but the last thing that needs to happen a total revaluation. They can't really guarantee stability of this new currency if the west can continue to manipulate the price of these metals.
If gold is reevaluated, that might be the catalyst that pulls the rug out from the entire US economy.

>>58429784
yes if it wasn't for bitcoin, PMs would have skyrocketed by now. total psyop. but we will win in the end. there are real world pressures that will reveal PM's true price. conversely, there's no reason why BTC can't just dump back to $10k if enough whales (which includes the US government and other unsavory parties) want it to

>>58429832
It's also why guys like Peter Schiff get more attention than someone like Andrew Maguire. Peter is one of the major faces for precious metal bulls, he's one of the first personalities people see when looking at the precious metals discussion online and on TV. But Peter doesn't really do or say anything interesting other than gloat about gold when the spot price is up and he actively antagonizes the crypto community, especially on twitter. While Andrew Maguire on the other hand, is an actual whistleblower who's a big contributor to first revealing JP Morgan's fraudulent activity. Andrew doesn't get nearly the amount of attention that doomer gold bulls like Peter Schiff and Mike Maloney do, which is one of the main reasons normies take one look at the gold/silver stacking community and have a hard time taking the accusations of COMEX manipulation seriously.
Andrew doesn't make big grandiose price predictions, his videos are long, drawn out analysis of what's going on with metals on the global level that most people, even many stackers, don't find nearly as interesting as the chauvinistic attitude of youtube channels like Wallstreet Silver. If you look up Andrew's wikipedia page, it's entirely focused on his activity as a whistleblower and nothing else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Maguire_(whistleblower)

There are so many subtle distractions, so many different voices in the stacking community but only a handful actually have knowledge of what's happening at a macroeconomic level. It's why nobody in the stacking community is talking about the BRICS+ meeting coming up this october which is hinted at pushing forward with gold revaluation. Guys like Peter are still obsessing over the changes in spot price. Only real heads understand the current spot price doesn't matter when half the world is preparing to agree on a revaluation of gold.

>>58429784
>Think about how hard it is to actually talk with the crypto crowd in general about gold/silver.
Hi, I'm here, funnelling my bitcoin profits into silver.
>>58429606
you said a fair price not a meme price.
>>58429698
>>58428329
someone buy it, we can test it and post results here.
I recently got some silver bullion coins below spot price- that ringing sound, holy shit I never knew. would be nice to see a webm ping test of the chinesium, along with acid tests.

>>58430021
true, peter schiff is boring and easy to hate.

>>58428240
Always buy. Dollar cost average is your friend. May see some crabbing for a while. Just don't put all your eggs in one basket.

>>58428268
>how do I get a fair price for them?
Most local coin stores offer reasonable amount, depending on what you have, and can explain their rational for the price of each item. It's okay to shop around if you don't like what you hear.

>>58428342
Nice work. Feel good about your purchase, and never doubt yourself. Most financial advisers would feel comfortable with as much as 10% of your wealth in precious metals. Most in this community would also argue that the more the better, regardless of any other factors.

Unlike many other things, silver and gold are relatively easy to resell if you ever need, but try not to overextend yourself.

>>58430176
>Dollar cost average is fucking retarded cope
ftfy

>>58430201
not for poors.

>>58430195
I still see these posts and think
>wow that's so much silver! he must be so rich.
then remember I have more than that in my chest ... you guys do have old wooden treasure chests for your stacks too, right?

>>58430201
>>58430212
dial it back, faggot
you're being an asshole

>>58430231
>doesn't have a cool wooden chest for his stack

>>58430212
wanna tone it down a skosh bud

>official forbes youtube channel acknowledging it now
https://youtu.be/iq0YQtdiptY?si=quRoz-ArO5biFJi-
between now and october we might see some serious shit lads. BRICS is openly talking about their new stablecoin backed by gold. They've been announcing new membe and have spent the last decade loading up their vaults. What needs to happen now is a revaluation of gold. People laughed at this but it's becoming more and more real, they got the Saudis and Iranians sitting at the table. I hope this turns out to be a nothingburger but it genuinely feels like big things are in motion.

>>58430560
sounds good to me

>>58428720
Awesome dragon, I need to get a hefty one, I just have this tiny one from Lexi Dick Jeweller, fresh and not yet toned

>>58428189
I have a 100k portfolio with 15% in metals, which includes 40% gold, 40% silver, 10% copper, 5% platinum, and 5% palladium.

Is this a good allocation?

>>58430655
sir, this is a coin shop

>>58430655
I'm assuming the percents you gave are for fiat values, not mass ratios.
For allocation, I'd say you're heavy on the copper. I'm guessing you got a good deal, or robbed a house of its plumbing, so maybe that doesn't count. I like your other ratios.
If I were starting over, I'd go more heavily into gold. I'm at 66:1 for Au:Ag mass ratio. You're at 43:1.

>>58430722
>I'm at 66:1 for Au:Ag mass ratio. You're at 43:1.
D'oh - Ag:Au.

crypto nerds will seethe

>>58430257
>>58430231
>can't handle the banter
you're either ashamed of being poorer than me, or the fish.

>>58430560
what do you think will happen?

>>58431253
i was just looking for a reason to post the word skosh

>>58431275
well god damn, i fell for your ruse.
...
but is it only me who also felt the significant need to store their stack, or "treasure", in a wooden box, which some may refer to as a "chest"?

We might actually be headed back down to ~$23

Sentiment turned, now miners are up when actual metal is red. Not good. The normies bought in

>>58431301
>We might actually be headed back down to ~$23
if only

>>58431326
lol see you next month

>>58431299
dude, there's something great about treasure in a wooden treasure chest.

My wood box is too thin and about to erupt from the weight of me treasures....

>>58431330
I hope you are right dude. I really do

>>58431384
you should know by now when the price drops $4 the premiums go up $3.99

>>58431301
Miners are up based on earnings reports from prices in January

Afternoon, /pmg/

>>58431597
is that pork or beef?
>>58431344
if you have one, post treasure chest.
>>58431358
based, this is how you know you are making it.

>>58431624
It's a beef ribeye steak that the cap has split from the rest of the steak

>>58431637
looks delicious, how did you season it? and are those blueberries too? i hear they are good for you, qrd?
just got finished having a big "goodbye bbq" for a mate who's leaving town today- lamb kebabs, lamb steaks and beef burgers with a side of nazi silver.

>>58431654
Just salt and pepper. Those are black olives. I was preparing dip for tomorrow and had those left over.

>>58431654
>mistaking olives for blueberries

>>58431661
also good.
>>58431666
hey, satan, you fucking frogposter, don't you know yankees and blueberries are synonymous.

>>58431255
Heck if I know, I'm just another schizo, but some are speculating it's going to be an overnight thing with the price of gold. They really can't peg a currency to gold while the price can be manipulated by the western paper market, so it's a 100% necessary step. Based on what Russia and China have openly talked about so far, they're likely going to publish independent audits of their gold reserves, ultimately putting pressure on the US to do the same. We know for a fact China has been upping their arbitrage in an effort to suck in as much gold and silver from comex/lbma as they can. There's also notable silver buying from India, over 2200 tons in feb of this year alone. Physical demand for silver has taken over price discovery, premiums have stayed above 10% and remained consistent despite the spot price getting beaten down. So anyone who said silver decoupling from the spot price had already started when premiums increased and stayed that way - were most likely correct.

Is it worth buying some metals living in Aus?

>>58431845
that gold buying is to pay back real estate debts and foreign creditors suing through the worlds central bank. China is not fucking around and any cent given to them spells America's doom

>>58432520
of course, you have fiat like everyone else. infact a large majority of silver bullion coins i see available are from aus. pic rel.
buy it as low as you can. as >>58431845
says, silver price has decoupled from the spot price, premiums are large right now and in the UK we have 20% taxes on top of that, so you need to find people selling it for less.

This is too much fun. Anyone else accumulating historical coins now that they're basically being sold for their bullion value? They all seem to be listed for the same prices they were being sold for a year ago, when bullion spot was 20% less. A 4% premium on a coin with historical value is just too good to pass up.

>>58432833
And does anyone have any good recs for non-pvc albums that work well for assorted coins of varying sizes?

>>58431299
>a wooden box
What's a box? What's a chest? Whatever word you use, you should weigh the need vs ability to carry it when it's full, and whether the bottom will hold out if you do carry it.
But wood can be the perfect material.

freakin finally

>>58432835
>>58432833
not sure about an album, but you could always just get 100 pack of large flips and use those.

Newest of newfags here. What type of % overhead do you find acceptable when buying bullion? If a coin is worth $100, what is the highest you'll pay for it?

>>58433287
Let me clarify:
A 1oz silver bar on Apmex runs you $2.49 over spot, or roughly 9% over spot.
A 1oz gold bar on Apmex runs you $69.99 over spot, or roughly 3% over spot.
Why the difference? And what are you willing to pay?

>>58433332
there's way more gold bullion available than silver bullion

>>58433287
2% absolute max if I'm buying for melt value. Don't discount >90% "junk" items either.

>>58433287
>worth
people are paying massive premiums for silver right now, however, I got a lot for below spot price recently. silver seems to be "worth" a lot more than it's spot price.
although ...
>>58432833
where are you getting these? what country are you in? I'm having great difficulty finding crowns or half crowns for anything below 50% premium. got a few others for a low premium though.

>>58433362
>there's way more gold bullion available than silver bullion
[citation needed]

>>58433489
that chart isn't about bullion, retard

>>58433716
Look at the cells bordered in red,:
K6 and K20.
Look how those numbers are derived.
Where is any data you have to backup your claim?
Do you know what "retard" means?

I'm about 2 weeks away from getting my first gold ounce

>>58430028
>https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176296272545
>weight: about 29g


Dont be a fucking retarded nigger cmon jesus christ what the fuck has PNG turned into

>>58433874
lol

>>58433840
yeah, it was fine until you showed up. now it's a shitshow full of retards who don't understand sarcasm or fun ????
like it's obviously not silver, but you can't know for certain without getting it in your hands. it would be interesting to see what scam the chinese are trying to pull here, is it plated? is it magnetic? does it have differences in design to the real thing? because these will be circulating in the market now, right? wouldn't you like to know what to avoid?

this new anime avatarfag is the worst
i'm gonna check out /bant/ pmg for awhile

>>58433106
Yeah come to think of it I'd rather have a lockbox full of flips. I'll go for that then.

>>58433482
I'm just trawling the Norwegian equivalent of craigslist. I must admit only a few of these were bought at such low premiums, the 5Reichsmark, the DDR Hegel coin and ofc Kennedy and Washington were all bought at pretty high premiums (especially the Hegel one). The florins and half crowns averaged a 25% premium.

The Swedish/Norwegian coins were the ones with a very low premium (the 2kr was actually 15% under spot), the 10kr had a 4% premium, and there are more listings like exactly like that, so I assumed most people could find historical coins from their respective countries at equivalent premiums.

>>58434479
>the Hegel
that one looks real nice, bu for sure

>>58435095
I'm pretty new, what does bu mean?
But yeah, agreed, and I'm a huge nerd so honestly a 350% premium on that one is a price I'm easily willing to pay (considering it was pretty much the price of three pints here in the Norvezshky Soviet).

>Reuters warns that CME is teetering
>Comex is part of the CME group
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/regulators-told-be-ready-handle-failed-clearing-houses-2024-04-25/
>demand for gold & silver in china
https://www.numismaticnews.net/coin-market/chinese-investment-gold-demand-soars
There's no need for the general public in the west to catch on and buy silver to break the back of the paper market. India and China (over a third of the world population) are encouraging their citizens to buy silver now. Big industry manufacturers like Tesla are funding silver mines to secure their own supply because they're unable to acquire it otherwise.
Keep stacking and keep your eyes on those premiums boys.

>>58433482
I had a look on gumtree and right now there are a couple of SA half crowns (.800) up for spot. The UK coins still seem pretty expensive though.

>>58435819
>>58433482

I somehow managed to brainfart and upload the image from the wrong listing. This is the coin I meant to post.

Can anyone ID this coin?

>>58436843
looks like this?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1641.html

It's so over for the US now. Even Sri Lanka wants to join BRICS+. The USD is a shitcoin going down the drain. Diversity will win.

>>58436942
lool

We will be around ~$23 shortly. Premiums will increase so physical remains the exact same price

>>58436846
Looks good to me - thanks!

>>58436942
>Sri Lanka
Yes, they would never make a bad economic decision...
https://fee.org/articles/sri-lanka-s-food-crisis-is-man-made-and-demonstrates-the-danger-of-faux-environmentalism/

>Silver is under 27
FINALLY! I can put an order in

>>58438161
yeah this is great

>>58438161
You just inspired me, anon. I picked up 20 more ounces this morning.

>>58435795
brilliant uncirculated. basically, a new coin

>>58438369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAEoCHANYY

>>58438514
ngl, pretty great.

>>58438503
I like the Beowolf and Grendel!

>>58428189

>>58438888
what am i seeing here

>>58438893
Not that dude, but I think it's a pic of a gold bar with tungsten or similar metal inside. Mimics the weight of the bar but increases profit margins of the chinese (or whoever) that sold it. This is why I generally buy from my LCS or one of the big distributors like APMEX.

>>58438909
Fuck the CCP for not regulating their industry

>>58438923
The CCP *is* the industry

>>58438923
>thinking regulation solves anything
my negro, I get the feeling you have not known any criminals or gangsters in your lifetime.

>>58438923
edited the meme just for you, you're welcome.

I have 50 ounces of silver and 1/4 ounce of gold. Am I going to make it bros?

>>58439120
>>58439287
>stopping and punishing criminals is impossible

>>58438886
I do too. Wasn't sure how it would look in person, but it looks pretty good. If we get a decent move down in the gold price I'll have to think about picking up the gold one too.

>>58439414
No, but not because you are stacklet. Because you are foot fag

>>58439414
I think you're on your way. Most here would encourage any amount. I think most here would also encourage maintaining the current gold/silver ratio. The old Silver Ends the Fed kids would suggest 1:100 ratio, meaning 1oz gold and 100 oz silver for each member of your household, but it's whatever you like.

At a bare minimum, you should be putting at least 10% of your income into precious metals.

>>58438923
Counterfeiting is a way of life.
The bugs believe there are no moral issues against taking advantage of a situation by cheating. If they succeed at it, it makes them proud. They simply don't understand when you call this criminal activity.

>>58439526
If you can't identify silver by touch, you have bigger problems than some guy in China selling theater props.

>>58439773
Thank you for your brilliantly insightful exposition.

>>58428342
>>58428573
>>58428654
>>58430655
>>58433287
>>58439414
Attention, /pmg/ retards -- you have all been duped into buying archaic rocks that produce nothing and will make you poor. You have the mindset of inefficient 17th century mercantilists whose economic position died as a result of Adam Smith and capitalism. It turns out that actual wealth is defined as the abundance of goods and services a nation has to produce happiness and welfare. When your needs are met, THAT is wealth. Wealth does not come from owning gay rocks. Even if the USD were to collapse, too few people today value silver and gold as "real money" to ever take off as "real money" again. You all live in a bubble and deserve to stay poor until you realize you've been had.

And if you think we are ever going back to a gold standard, think again. The reason the US and so many other nations took themselves off a gold standard is because metal-backed currency stifles economic prosperity i.e. as economies grow, so does the money supply. Therefore it makes no sense to tie money to a scarce resource like gold or silver. When money is liberated from PMs, wealth goes up for everyone.

Did you know banks don't even stack silver because it's too volatile? LOL but go ahead and keep stacking useless rocks. The PM exchanges make a fortune off you retards! HAHAHAHAHA!

>>58440009

>>58440009
some believe that we will return to the gold standard?
Not me anyway.

some people think they will become rich with their coins?
Not me anyway.

Some people think they will be able to sell their coins to other citizens who don't even know how to tell a man from a woman?
Not me anyway.

the first reason why I bought metals (in 2009) was in anticipation of the freeze and the drain on savings, and that is indeed what is going to happen, at least in Europe the governments don't even hide it.

The second reason is to get my savings out of the clutches of the banks before we can no longer do it, and that is also in progress.

But you should try to understand what these metals are used for, you should discuss with breeders, farmers, in short the real professions, they will explain to you that in the event of a financial and monetary problem, they will prefer gold and gold. money rather than a piece of paper or a digital token whose value is not real.

These people feed us, and these people have always known real money.

You lack historical culture, open some books instead of wasting your time here.

>>58428342
Hey I'm back, just received another 3oz of silver (Britannias). I'm thinking of buying an ounce of gold next, would that be a good idea for a beginner stacker such as myself? I kinda want to get a Buffalo but the premiums on those seem really high, at least here in Canada. Might just get a generic bar or something instead.

>>58441048
Yes definitely get gold, but skip the buffalo. Its an ugly coin and paying a premium on gold isnt worth it. The gold maple is a great coin, higher purity, good security. US Mint coins are in general boomer bait

>>58441048
1oz gold britannias are really cool. but try to get one with the queen on the back, not the pedo king

Does jewelry count as part of an inflation hedge? I have a few ounces of pure gold in the form of inherited jewelry, mostly 14k bracelets and necklaces, TONS of rings I haven't bothered valuing in the 10-14k range and a bit over a troy oz of pure gold in some 18k chains and bracelets, and some 22-24k pieces coming soon for super cheap. I know 22k+ is preferred but if you just have a few ounces of pure gold lying around in old jewelry it's the gold that can be extracted that counts right? I know jewelry guys (maybe not coin guys) don't give a damn if a Cuban chain is in 10 14 or 18 as long as it's got an ounce of gold in (and they usually have close to 2 or more because of the nature of Cuban chains being very thick and heavy)

Also thinking of getting Britannia 1/10s in gold every now and then because they're cheap.Thoughts on getting 1/10s vs 5 gram generic rounds in gold? Thinking of leveling out my gold treasure pile with a ton of little coins since it's what I can afford right now, and of course silver coins.

I mean I know there's a lot of nuance with the price of silver fluctuating by a few cents every few hours and coin shops are really autistic about this coin vs that coin for verification purposes but I figure if I get it from a quality mint and it's pure gold or silver that's all that really matters right? I only have a few ounces of silver, I'm getting more, I have some sterling jewelry and I'm gonna start getting a couple ounces each month, probably rounds or eagles depending on what's available for cheap where I normally look for gold and silver.

>>58441087
>Does jewelry count as part of an inflation hedge?
sure. the gold has to go up a lot though, to offset the jewelry premium you probably paid

>>58441087
if you want small denominations of gold get circulated coins. You can sometimes get them for spot

>>58441097
Vast majority of it is inherited so it's free money if I ever needed to get rid of it though I'd rather not. As far as premiums I have family who can get pure gold in Asia for way cheaper than the in west. I just decided to value what I could of scrap jewelry I had and I came to around 32 grams divided among 4 18K chains and close to 2 ounces more in 14k. I have so many rings with various stones I haven't even tried valuing.
>>58441122
What dealer do you recommend? I had it in my head to just get rounds if I can to avoid any possible risks with having a government mint attached to metal so they can claim ownership through some maritime admiralty law type legalism.

>>58441129
this is exactly why I avoid bullions.

>>58441129
>tfw king of italy appears looking for his gold

>>58441087
>I know 22k+ is preferred but if you just have a few ounces of pure gold lying around in old jewelry it's the gold that can be extracted that counts right
You get into diminishing returns because refining costs go up sharply below 22k. Depending on the alloy and the scrap guy, you could reasonably eat a 30% discount vs gold content on 10k.

>>58441129
>so they can claim ownership through some maritime admiralty law type legalism
These coins are high enough gold content that you could refine them into legal bullion in an apartment if it somehow came to that.

>>58441273
>You get into diminishing returns because refining costs go up sharply below 22k. Depending on the alloy and the scrap guy, you could reasonably eat a 30% discount vs gold content on 10k.
true but you should be selling it as jewelry, not scrap gold. then you can add a hefty premium to it. of course, it has to be good jewelry, not some ugly piece of shit lol

>>58441292
10k tends to be kinda trashy though

>>58441164
Just buy Krugs. I wish South Africa would.

>>58441273
>>58441292
Eh I honestly don't even count 10k as part of my hedge but I know shops will still buy heavy or high quality 14k chains and flip them. The majority of my gold is in 15+ gram 18k, 10-30 gram 14k chains, some bracelets and bangles of both around the 10 gram area and some old 21/22 and 24k pieces.

>>58439416
Yes.

>>58440009
>silver
>too volatile
here is a chart showing silver value over time, adjusted for inflation. de-activate "log scale".
https://www.macrotrends.net/1470/historical-silver-prices-100-year-chart

>>58441354
>>58441164
I like Krugs but I will NEVER seek out shit like silver eagles unless I find one lying around for cheap, I'll get whatever is cheapest. When it comes to silver I just want as much pure metal as possible. When it comes to gold I'll be going no lower than 22k from now on and probably get fractionals regularly. 20 rounds are like what around 600 more or less in silver so a 1/10 or 5er in gold is like 10 ounces. Whatever. I like yellow rock

>>58441129
>What dealer do you recommend?
Libertycoin, or just search by lowest cost on finbullionprices.com

what a fantastic thursday

>>58442862
>3 higher

>>58441129
LibertyCoin on ebay or APMEX
Look at 20 francs and 10 pesos
>Verification not required

>>58442888
Liberty coin is a godsend. Thank you for the recommendation. How many of you collect constitutional silver?

>>58443139
I haven't checked them out, but definitely will.

>>58438369
USPS makes me nervous, and for good reason. I caught the delivery driver pretending to deliver my silver today, went out and picked it up from him directly as he was filling out the "attempted to deliver" sticker.

APMEX had a sale of random mint silver 1oz coins, so I picked up 20 at roughly 2% over spot. Looks like I got a tube of 20 Samoan 2023 Green Lanterns.

>>58441055
...these are chocolate coins...

>>58443377
>so I picked up 20 at roughly 2% over spot. Looks like I got a tube of 20 Samoan 2023 Green Lanterns.
lucked out with that

>>58443380
I tasted them they are all real gold

>>58441899
>>58442888
>no libertycoin in uk
do we have an equivalent?
ebay sellers are baffling me.
I got almost 20oz below spot, now no one will accept anything but 30 to 50% OVER spot. Did i just get lucky on my first bullion purchase?

>>58444005
>I got almost 20oz below spot,
I'm not saying it's fake, but it's probably fake. Nobody sells below market value.

>>58443139
>How many of you collect constitutional silver?
Oh, hell yea

>>58443139

>>58443139
All day every day

>>58443139
Not as much as I'd like. I think I have a handful of smaller change and a tube of 20 Franklin's. The Franklin's I bought several years ago, the change I've just collected over the years paying in cash.

okay you can list more now

>>58444736
very nice brownings and savage

Closed at 2300!!! 2300 now confirmed floor!

>>58445674
Time to stack!

Hey, I was wondering if you fine folks can help me in seeing if this coin is authentic or not? I got it for a few dollars at an antique store.

and the other side. I understand some coins need to be flips portrait, for it to be legitamate. And this coin does that, so if I turn it over north to south, the other face is the right side up

>>58446334
Take it to a local coin shop. Those people usually have equipment beyond the magnet test and ping test that can tell you what something is made of.

why buy silver at all?
shouldn't i just stack gold assuming im in it for the long haul (decades)

>>58446512
>why buy silver at all?
Speculation.

HELLO COMEX BROS

>>58444331
it's not fake, i checked it with a magnet and did the ping test. it was legit minted coins in the original collectors box. if this is fake i would be very surprised, i think i just got lucky.

>>58446512
>why buy silver at all?
gold will crash.
adjusting for inflation, silver stays roughly constant.

>>58446512
both is more secure as a hedge and silver has potential to gain you some money even if its a gamble's chance
easier for some people to afford a few ounces of silver a month than a chunk of a dub or 2k for smaller fractions or a zip of gold

>>58446512
To speculate on the GSR.

>>58446682
Adjusting for inflation silver pretty much just goes down with brief upward spikes.

janny go rustle up some nice ones for me

>>58447003
>using a log chart
>results from 1720
>silver just goes down!
false.

>>58447462
Are you seriously suggesting $47 1980 is only worth $140 now?

>>58430021
>>58429784
All valid points; I would like to add my own.

You have different "subtiers" of crypto, going from "speculative meh" to downright terrible. The top contender appears to be BTC in cold storage. Then perhaps other proof-of-work coins in cold storage. After that, memecoins, shitcoins, POW Ponzis, so-called stablecoins, etc. After that, those in hot wallets. After that, those in exchanges.

In addition, there are the BTC ETFs, which strike me as a gigantic "I drink your milkshake" (allusion to There Will Be Blood) scheme whereby the major banking institutions have suckered the masses into dumping their paper money into these ETFs. The major problem is confiscation by government (if not by the bank themselves as bail-in collateral during a banking crisis). The executive branch could easily issue an EO (just as it did with gold in '33) to confiscate all the BTC in the ETFs in one fell swoop: the banks would gladly oblige, knowing they would likely be beneficiaries in the end.

Finally, Peter Schiff has (in my mind) already won debate (gold vs BTC) between the crypto bros, which can be distilled down to the following: digital or physical? But the question is deceptive. The answer is actually both: A gold-backed or silver-backed blockchain. This is already "proof-of-concepted" by Kinesis.

>>58441087
Even Harry Dent - who believes that BTC will be monetized instead of gold - believes that gold will retain its value, more or less, due to its extreme attraction to Easterners as jewelery. It is a sight to behold. In China and places in the ME they love flashing gold, they love flaunting their wealth on their bodies as jewelery. And last time I checked, there are far, far, far more non-Westerners alive today than Westerners. Following the money means following where it is flowing to: the East. Therefore, it is wise to consider Eastern thinking. If the West falls, the East will dominate. And if the East says gold is money, then gold is money.

>>58447815
I want to cop a big chain with a lot of gold in it as wearable money as an asset I can liquidate on the spot down the line as emergency funds. I know in the west despite coin guys saying silver is harder to extract at under 90% all the jewelry and scrap guys I've listened and talk to say it's not an issue with gold at 14~ karat as long as it's not a tiny thing with half a gram in it, so Cubans are an option but I don't know how well they fare in eastern countries. But gold is gold and if they can extract an ounce or more from a Cuban in the west they can do it in the east but just in case I'm gonna get a couple big 22k chains cheap when I can. Most of the other ounce of gold in jewelry I have is in smaller pieces but it's still gold so I figure it counts. I got an ounce on my neck split into two chains already that I can easily tuck in when traveling.

>>58447840
I don't have gold jewelery, only platinum: to each his own. I buy from Mene. They only deal in 24k for gold and platinum (no silver). Platinum is despised right now, which is exactly why I want it. But it's perfect as jewelery (better than silver because it never tarnishes, so silver is better at .925).

>>58447853
Oh yeah I'm going to get some Mene's, I just wish they were better about listing their measurements. I want some of the 2.5mm pieces for subtlety and I don't have 3k plus to drop on their giant chains. I can get 22/24 from Asia from family at under spot

>>58447853
I thought about platinum but meh, feels more important to stack gold and silver since it has the most likely chance of coming into higher relevance before platinum does. I guess it's a gamble like people gambling on silver making them double in a few years. For me, I like how you can sell a gold chain instantly in a bad situation and you can dodge confiscation and taxes if it's wearable and doesn't have money stamps on it. Not sure where platinum fits into the sound money pile.

>>58447864
Your reasoning is sound. You should err on the side of caution if you want liquidity and so the best option is gold by a mile. I travelled to Brazil recently and the "guys with the posters on the side of road promoting buying gold" wouldn't take platinum from what I heard (wasn't looking to sell, so take that with a grain of salt).

I'm on the opposite side of the coin from you. I want longterm capital preservation via jewelery. Why? Because you can keep a platinum chain forever... literally. So, it's a nondepreciating asset from the perspective of jewelery. Doesn't break, doesn't tarnish, hard to break, super shiny.

I like gold as bullion though.

>>58448193
I'm on the same side in that I've been leaning on jewelry for a long time and will keep a ton in it but I go with gold just because I like it. The aspect of money that's wearable is really appealing too for getting out of dodge or dodging taxes/confiscation.

>>58448224
>getting out of dodge or dodging taxes/confiscation.
No question on jewelry for jewelry's sake, but this bit doesn't seem to check out. If you're getting out of dodge, isn't jewelry actually more likely to be confiscated by greedy cops or stolen by opportunistic thieves because it's harder to hide or actually on display? For taxes, you still have to pay those on the (higher) value of the item if you're crossing borders, don't you? To avoid confiscation, couldn't you beat or melt your bullion into a faggy artisinal necklace or otherwise? I suppose you'd lose out on some trust this way, but the metal is still there and you'd have gotten more for your money to start. I'm a Burger, am I missing some foreign laws or a bit of /his/?

>>58448293
Historically jewelry is harder to confiscate and you can get away with several thousand on your person if you have heavy pieces. A heavy bracelet and chain can be 5 digits. I'm staying away from too many gov mints in case there's ever a claim that shit like Eagles are government property. Like I said it's also a lot easier to turn jewelry into instant cash than coins or melting down metal. Think of it as insurance more than anything. I won't encounter cops but it might be hard in some scenarios to offload tons of bullion. Crossing borders is easy, people pack 3 ounce chains a lot when traveling as an emergency asset and just hide it when they're in.

>>58448301
>I'm staying away from too many gov mints in case there's ever a claim that shit like Eagles are government property.
Reasonable, and if I recall that's how the last confiscation worked here anyway.
>Like I said it's also a lot easier to turn jewelry into instant cash than coins or melting down metal... it might be hard in some scenarios to offload tons of bullion.
I can kind of see this one. Any historical examples?

I don't see any compelling reason to change my strategy since most of the other things you mentioned don't actually seem to be an advantage in my mind, but jewelry does seem okay as another option at least.

>>58448344
The confiscation thing is why I'm thinking rounds are the way to go honestly, and as far as historical examples of turning jewelry into cash it's just kind of common sense to me. Where I live coin shops are very far away (100 miles) but I know my community and jewelry is very valued. So there's a barter edge for me. I'm not counting on being able to easily reach big bullion companies if something hits the fan and PMs become really, actively relevant.
>advantage
I'm new to this scene but I'm just getting what I can and I happen to just have all the jewelry lying around, which puts me in a better position than people with 0 PMs. Honestly my reasons for wanting pieces that would be harder to take than coin is unique to my situation and goals, I can buy jewelry from family a lot easier at under spot than I can get the same weight in coins or bars.

Regardless I'm going to get what I can with coins, I just have the opportunity to get purer metals in jewelry form for cheaper right now so I'm jumping on it but I want coins and shit too while things are still "stable". Sorry if my reasoning is a bit uneducated, I just very recently started trying to really educate myself on PMs after I came into possession of a bunch of old gold.

>>58448301
boomer rock collectors:
>I collect boomer rocks because you CAN'T TRUST GOVERNMENT FIAT MORE LIKE GYATT HAHA
also boomer rock collectors:
>you can RELY on cops to not confiscate and conveniently lose jewelry
>it's super easy to cross borders and just generally be anywhere outside of US with a lot of jewelry on you
>Think of it as insurnce more than anything.
/biz/ is the SMARTEST board on this site by a long shot

>>58448425

>>58448425
cops are for shooting not listening to

>>58448425
second and fourth amendment gives me rights to keep my rocks

>>58448193
how did you even get platinum anything from mene, they have been out of stock of everything desirable for as long as ive bothered checking

>>58448614
What do you mean? I just bought a pendant last week, and the last purchase I made was last year. Checking website right now, they have 2 affordable platinum chains right now, going from 175-285, depending on the one you want, and the others go up from there. Platinum is scarce but it's not desirable right now to the masses, so I really really doubt you can't find it. I remember going to my coin dealer about 2 months back and noticed he had several platinum pieces lying around; when I inquired he said no one is buying platinum.

Sorry bros, you're better off holding cash collecting 5% than gold if you want to protect your purchasing power.

>>58449350
Anything besides the smallest chains is perpetually out of stock. 16/18" on a male adult is basically a choker

>>58447747
yeah that's about right, you can use a lot of different metrics to calculate inflation, that's actually a little below my calculation.
also i don't know what the fuck your chart is supposed to show; silver not adjusted for inflation has a weak correlation to usm2?

>>58449399
Yes, USM2 is the closest thing to Austrian inflation you're going to get from the government, and silver correlates weakly to it. The previous graph shows it also correlates weakly to shadowstats inflation. Which is to say it has only gone down for the last 150 years, barring short rallies. I'll give you anything before 1860 is probably bullshit.

I'm a poorfag but have managed to put together a little stack anyway. I hadn't considered the tradability of jewelry before, but it makes sense on the surface. I'll add a couple chains to my stack in the next few months.

Why do you CHUDS continue to buy worthless overpriced gold instead of good solid assets like Nvidia stock and bitcoin

>>58449500
where is your adjustment for inflation?

>>58449614
Please stop believing conspiracy theories like the national debt

>>58449614
i have bitcoin AND silver.

>>58449589
if i could get silver jewelery at near spot, i would melt it down and make meme coins.

>>58449614
I do have some bitcoin. I have also some blue chip dividend investments. If you're not diversifying into something tangible like AU/AG or land, then you're likely the one doing it wrong, not us.

>>58449638
I already have coins/rounds. I'm thinking of tradability here and jewelry anon made some good points. I do sometimes see deals, even on overpriced exchanges like APMEX for generic rounds and bars at very near spot. If I had enough jewelry though, I probably would have fun melting them down into fun little ingots or trinkets too.

>>58449626
Is orange line higher or lower than red and green line?

witness me, janny

>>58428189
I miss the based metal posting here. Where's my mint and holo anons? When can we expect some good news, updates, or new rounds? :D
>verified email and you still have to use a fucking captcha? ffs

>>58450663
>holo
has anyone messaged him on twitter? haven't heard anything from him since he was speculating on doing the trump mugshot rounds.

>>58449614
I mean I have both Bitcoin and Gold/Silver

>>58450800
Surely you also have the sacred Nvidia too? You CHUD! HOW DARE YOU NOT STACK THE SACRED NVIDIA!

>>58450663
I am waiting for either:

a) More inventory to sell so I can manufacture 100 trump mugshot proofs
b)Investment/Credit/Loan to scale inventory
I have everything ready, I just need to purchase the silver but do not have the liquidity

>>58450950
>I am not Holo, this is Todd

>>58450848
No I don’t. I regret not buying it when it was $100.

>>58450672
>anything from him
didn't he post something about "stepping away" due to personal/job reasons a few months ago?
>>56664980
>>56665141
"General update since i know we havent been postting much (we are still here just working and trying to secure things in the background). The twitter post thats about to be up goes into a bit more detail but the main thing is that we are still working on projects but we arent putting a coin out until next year. New job/holiday obligations have left us absurdly busy and we wont have anything for sale/pre-order until the new year."

>>58452176
I think you're right. I did send him an email telling him to make another coin just incase.

Just bought my first oz of gold, this is what my current stack looks like.

Moving forward I'm thinking buying an oz of gold about once every year, and buying 100 oz of silver in the same timespan. Does that seem like a good game plan? I'm still very new to all this so any advice is very much appreciated.

>>58428189
smol glonk for a smol stack

>>58452422
Why plan out a “once a year” purchase when can DCA every paycheck? Have you taken the 1g Gold bar pill yet anon? Small comfy little nugget of pure gold. Much more fungible in a SHTF/economic collapse type scenario. Cheaper and easier to stack to get exposure to gold as well. You can get 1g bar for around $90 on SikverGoldbull and SD bullion.

>>58452841
Only $200/oz over spot!

>>58452841
I heard buying gold fractionals is not encouraged because of how high the premiums are. If it'll be cheaper in the long run I'd rather just buy an oz annually

>>58452854
Fair enough.

>>58452422
100/1 sounds pretty good to me.
Nice work.

>>58450950
>>58450954
pre-sales have worked for others

In the coming weeks, there will be sales, gold at $2200 and silver around $23.
Prepare your piggy banks.

>>58453680
I sincerely hope this is the case.

>>58453698

>>58453680
I want $1600 gold again.

>>58428189
>two week old bread still active
I've been away from here for a few weeks, WTF happened? did the email thing really kill biz this badly?

>>58455412
yes, it would be moving at more or less usual speed without the email crap

>>58455421
well, what the fuck. where am I gonna talk to my silver bros? I ain't going to plebbit.. are instagram or twitter decent?

>>58455451
you can go to /bant/, they have silver AND sissy porn, very convenient

I will quit masterbating for a month in silver goes above 30usd a Troy ounces

>>58455451
We're all still here guy, just more of us lurking instead of posting anymore.

>>58455451
you can just participate in both pmg threads

>>58455451
this >>58455518

>>58455668
can you post the link or a variation of link that i can find for the site to order one of these in the bant thread pls

>>58455811
poosted

>>58455836
appreciate it

>>58452841
Nah, if you can't afford to buy a gold ounce bar once every month or so, you should just be buying silver. When the gold/silver ratio decreases significantly, you trade the large majority of your silver for gold.

>>58448606
Your constitutional rights can be suspended in the event of a national emergency. Refer to Executive Order 11490.

>>58456280
Where did the constitution say executive orders are a thing?

Hello friends, haven been on in a while, hope everyone is staying komfy in here.

> 130 oz silver
> 1.5 oz gold

I'm about to sell for buying a house. Is this a mistake?

>>58456505
Don't know where you are or what housing prices are like, but I can't imagine that amount of PMs would make much difference relative to the cost of a house. If you truly need to sell, I'd keep the gold if possible.

>>58456746
I mean it's around 6 grand so yeah that could help someone quite a bit.

>>58456865
Possibly. It's just that around here, say a modest house is 300k. Bank needs 20% (60k) down. If 6k is significant, I think the scale of need requires a rethink. We don't know the circumstances and we're not really qualified to answer properly.

>>58456505
Tough call. A house is a great asset, though other anon is right that if you can afford to pay the few thousand dollars another way, I'd do it. All tangible assets are going to spike in value over the next few years, but if you don't own your property outright, you'd be trading one tangible asset for another that you can lose if you aren't able to keep up payments.

I don't think you're wrong either way, but if you liquidate to make the purchase, I'd bust my ass to replenish it as soon as I could if I were you.

Not sure where to ask this so figured id just ask it here. What kind of safe (or other security) to you use to secure your gold/silver/bitcoin seed phrase? I had gotten one of these but found out after opening that if you bolt it down it looses its fire/water resistants.

>>58457439
something portable is nice, but depends on how much you have. Others like to pepper their house with multiple locations to prevent theft/fire/other disaster from taking them all out at once.

>>58457508
Yeah i hear the hiding it in a wall or similar is pretty common. I could just get a small fire/waterproof safe and do that but i dont particularly want to cut open my wall and go through all that.

So are there any scenarios where buying silver/gold is NOT a good idea? Any hypothetical events or situations that would cause their value to plummet irrecoverably? I'm mostly buying PMs to protect my existing wealth against inflation, I just want to make absolute certain that I'm not doing something that could potentially fuck me over later on.

>>58457545
A neighbor of mine told me his stash is inside a large capped and sealed PVC pipe, buried vertically in his backyard about two feet down. He scattered birdshot and small ball bearings all over his yard to prevent anyone from being able to find it with a metal detector.

The dude is clearly nuts, but I can't find any significant flaw in his design.

>>58457682
>I can't find any significant flaw in his design.
Well, he told you about it so his opsec is shit. Not telling anyone who doesn't need to know is about as important as hiding well.

>>58457545
Walls work for permanent storage, but you can probably find some nooks and crannies you could shove 50 ounces or so at a time into if needed. It's even easier with gold.

>>58457590
All tangible assets will increase in value over time. PMs, land, etc. Just don't put all your eggs in one basket and you'll be fine.

>>58457703
Naw, he's just an old lonely prepper. Told me because he wanted me and my family to have it when he dies.

>>58457736
In that case, yeah, burial is pretty solid. No one is going to dig up your backyard if they come to rob you, and neither fire nor floods are actually a concern for PMs provided they say in place anyway. The only worry then might be the feds, and the buried metal even makes them work for it. It'd be a bit better if he could put it somewhere protected and not near his house, but that introduces other problems.

Fun fact: now that copper is above $4.60/lb avdp, the melt value of a pre-1982 US penny is genuinely 3 cents.

>>58457682
It would stick out like a sore thumb on ground penetrating radar. The real trick would be to bury it under a storm drain fixture that's only accessible from above water like 3 months of the year.

>>58457825
AMERICA!

>silver almost hit $32/oz today on the shanghai gold exchange
>derivatives market slaps silver down before it can touch $29 in the west
This upcoming may 28th BRICS+ meeting in moscow is something to watch for lads. It'll be the 2nd meeting of deputy finance ministers and central bank governors, we may see more details on the new gold backed currency they plan to trade with. Based on what they've made public, the October summit in Kazan will be the big one where they announce an agreement on the revaluation of gold. I'm still trying to wrap my head around what that will look like but what's really fascinating is the news cycle right now.
https://www.businessinsider.com/dedollarization-usd-strong-china-pboc-central-banks-buy-gold-inflation-2024-5
This article doesn't mention anything particularly new or interesting, but the way everything is worded is peculiar.
>China buying a lot of gold lately
Everyone already knows this but it's not just for their central bank. The Chinese gov has been encouraging it's citizens to buy gold since the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis. This article below is from 2010.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/alert-chinese-government-urging-its-citizens-buy-gold-2010-07-08
>"A stronger USD would weaken its role as reserve currency," ... "If access to USD becomes more expensive, borrowers will search for alternatives."
>The rush into gold assets may not bode well for the US dollar in the longer run, should the currency continue to gain.
They're saying the dollar is strong but it's bad that it's becoming too strong ? And they're saying this as countries slowly but steadily begin dumping their US treasuries ? Still trying to hold onto this "dollar strong" narrative while acknowledging the global rush for gold and silver is fascinating shit. Especially when you consider the dollar only looks strong because the index is measured against a crumbling yen and dying euro.

>>58456412
Goddamn thats a nice n comfy pic. Two of my fav rounds in a can of my fav caliber.

>>58458548
>They're saying the dollar is strong but it's bad that it's becoming too strong ?
Check the source. It's just commie eurobankers and stock manipulators kvetching. Rivalry between US / EU banks and East / West coast Fed is constant.

>>58452854
>>58452853
Small fractional gold bars also sell for higher premium as well, so your point is kinda retarded

>>58457439
Just use some JB weld and stick it on a piece of steel then, bolt the steel down.

do we even know how much short squeeze pressure it would take for shorts to get liquidated?
I was thinking about this. If they can print money, there's technically no upper limit. They can just keep short-covering forever, right?
What am I missing here?

>>58429784
>>58430021
post a good video where Andrew Maguire goes into this? I've never heard of him before.

time to buy some silber. $500 in mercs or what?

>>58459229
Yes, as long as the system stays as it is. Wall St will just keep perpetually manipulating paper gold/silver prices which dictate physical gold/silver. The only way shit will go crazy is if the Fed loses control of the experiment and we enter a partial economic collapse.

>>58459295
so we're never gonna break $30 then, or even if we do, it'll be a brief pump up then back to $23

>>58459216
Bullion dealers and coin shops pay no such premium. You might find an exceptionally dumb p2p buyer who will pay a fraction of it, but you're still giving away like 10% to the original seller for no reason.

>>58459296
No, not until a financial collapse. Use it as an opportunity to stack.
>>58459346
You’ve been to the wrong places then.

>>58459370
>not until a financial collapse
It's doubtful that will happen as long as people are willing to be cucked by kike authority. I don't see it happening for another decade. I'm probably gonna start dumping soon if I can get back my principal.

>>58459375
I will happily buy as you capitulate.

>>58450663
nice to see a pic I took still going around. :D

>>58450663
>>58459681
kek, shit that WAS me, lmao - WTF is up with these days long lasting threads? come on mods, let us post w/o email verification! it's really killing the silver shitposting vibe.
> Verification not required.

Is there a discord server for this type of stuff? I want to know how to buy this shit smartly.

>>58459814
You don’t need to join a discord, you’re gonna get scammed. If I were you I’d stay away from overpriced premium silver no matter how cool the designs look and just stick with cheap generic low premium Silver rounds, or silver bars.

>>58459814
To add on to that. I recommend buying online at SilverGoldBull or SD Bullion.

>>58456403
Nowhere, it's unconstitutional.

>>58459219
This seems like a good idea but how? Take a steal plate, bolt that down, then jb welt the heads of the bolts to the safe (or have a 2nd smaller steel plate jb welded to both? You couldnt just put the plate on the safe as the bolts would not let it make contact.

>>58460162
No. Get a thick sheet of steel or desired metal. JB weld the entire flat bottom surface of the safe to the steel sheet. Be generous with the JB weld. Allow 24 hours for JB weld to cure. Drill 4 holes in the corners of the steel sheet. Bolt the steel foundation to desired location..

>>58460162

>>58460194
you can just pop a safe like this open with a pry bar in 5 seconds and minimal effort

>>58460194
>>58460208
solid advice!

>>58460324
It really depends on the quality of the safe. And the whole point of replying to the anon, is basically to get it bolted down to prevent some nigger from running off with it. The average criminal (nigger) will not be able to pop a standard safe open in 5 seconds, not even locksmiths can do that. If it’s bolted down and JB welded, he’s gonna have to do it in the spot. It takes professional locksmiths ~5 minutes to break cheap safes, and you need heavy duty tools like sledge hammers and crowbars, which robbers are unlikely to have.

>>58428189
What is everyone’s thoughts on moving /pmg/ to /pol/ and rebranding it to /etf/ ‘End The Fed’ general considering jannies have killed /biz/.

>>58460444
nein

>>58460444
im not going to any porn board

>>58460550
I have been mogged. I kneel.

Just dropped 6k on jewelry (14k yellow gold and 14k white gold) for my upcoming marriage.
Will feel good to wear and give me something pretty to look at.

>>58460194
this wont work because the bolts are accessible to just be removed by anyone

>>58460900
Nigger you’re not too bright, are you? Sweet fuck, JB weld the bolts too, cunt. Put a torque wrench on them and torque them to Valhalla. I actually kind of want a nigger to break in and steal your shit at this point.

>>58458661
Thanks Anon. If you have guns and not a stash of brass you have nothing. Anyone here still stack reichs?

About a year ago now and anon posted an image of a Japanese coin he was looking at buying, specifically one part of the series celebrating 60 years of the local autonomy act and each of Japan's prefectures issued a 1oz .999 coin and stamp set.
Just wanted to thank that anon as I finally bit the bullet and bought the entire set after worrying about getting scammed. Took me most of the weekend to weigh each coin and measure it to ensure it's silver, but it matches up with Numista.
Very happy with the set, beautifully designed and presented and has now pushed me over the 500oz amount for silver. I think I'd rather be buried with this set rather than ever sell it.

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>>58459865
My thoughts exactly. I’m not one for the fancy designs or anything, happy to start bullion collection or even grain if that’s viable.

SD and SilverGoldBull don’t seem to be an option down under though.

>>58460935
yeah i guess im just over thinking. In my mind wouldnt be very hard to just cut those away but that's not really something thats going to happen. That safe does have small feet (where the bolts go through) but that would probably be enough contact area for jb weld

>>58462387
>yeah i guess im just over thinking.
You 300% are, as people often do in these situations. Could that level of security be defeated? Yes, with time and the right tools. It's almost guaranteed that anyone breaking into your home will have neither of those things. Don't make yourself a target (i.e. shut your whore mouth about your stash and especially your safe) and you're good to go. If your security can take 10 minutes of semi-determined ooga-booga with MAYBE some hand tools you're golden. Most people will steal your TV and fuck off before that though.

Posting in shitty stale /cuckbiz/ /pmg/ before this legendary turd of a thread dies. Why are you still here?

Is this a good time to sell my gold?

>>58462500
Good to know. I've seen people say that you be spending an amount on a safe relative to whats in it so if you had say $10k then buy a $1k safe or $2k if its over $50k of valuables, etc. Maybe ill take a look at a local lock smith and see what options they have just in case. I just hadnt realized sentrysafe was considered such shit since theyre so widespread.

the rounds look great in person todd!

>>58462671
>I've seen people say that you be spending an amount on a safe relative to whats in it
I've seen the same argument for bike locks. It makes some kind of sense there since thieves can see what they would be stealing and plan accordingly or decide if your lock is even worth the effort, but I don't know that the same logic applies to safes, especially where a smaller, cheaper one might be hidden away while a larger one couldn't be.
>I just hadnt realized sentrysafe was considered such shit since theyre so widespread.
Logical fallacy. You can generally count on normalfags to buy suboptimal products in every category, especially once brand recognition kicks in. That's not to say you should go hipster and avoid buying popular things (though safety through obscurity might make that worth considering when it comes to safes if you're going schizo), but absolutely do research. Research would've shown those in the know shitting all over the brand.

Bros I cant stop buying Junk. Ive moved on to Canadian and Mexican now too. JUNK I LOVE JUNK I WANT TO RUB MY HANDS ALL OVER JUNK

>>58462756
>Research would've shown those in the know shitting all over the brand.
I had done some research but some makers (like acomalock, among others) didnt have prices listed and you just have to contact some local dealer. I was also having a hard time telling which ones were bolt down included in fire/water resistance and which werent (such as some i saw on mammothsafes site. I should probably just go to a locksmith and talk with them about this stuff.

>>58462748
Glad you like her! I have the next proof set of 'The Don'; coming soon. Everything is already complete; I am just waiting on raw silver to ship. I was able to find a Susan B. in the wild. Pretty good condition too!

>>58463490
I am also in the middle of creating educational marketing material with citable sources to help spur the general public into buying precious metals.
>I have 7 pages of info to shorten into 2

>>58463500
I like this idea.

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>>58463653
so do i. i thought the card was a nice touch too

>>58462888
Checked. My only problem with junk is in a SHTF/Economic collapse scenario. The average person would be too stupid to barter with because they’d think they’re just regular coins.

>>58464077
I dunno man, it didn't seem like niggers had any problems identifying copper or aluminum during the 09 meltdown. People get clued into stuff fast when it hits their wallet.

Apmex has some spot deals including random year gold krugs (1 per customer tho)
Should I do it, or is it not worth buying right now so close to the top?

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>>58464182
its too close to the top for me desu

my confidence in gold mooning anytime soon is v low. have some gold already, can afford to wait. if you don't have any it might be worth taking. though i think apmex is in my same boat, and can afford to take 100% off premium. they're expecting a dip.