/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>58419635
I hope you spent big on the ring chud.

I am 29 years old and I never even kissed a girl

>>58419640
Doesn't sound like someone I'd want to marry

>>58419649
I know, and I feel like shit because I see KHV's here often. If your willing to seek advice I can maybe give some.

>>58419635
Married to the woman of my dreams who does everything i ask for is extremely talented at making me food, taking care of the house, managing some of the property/bill stuff and drains me like a succubus whenever I want wtf are you complaining about?

Not married, but had many married friends. You got to step up and stop thinking about yourself only. As a man and head of household, it's your duty to keep the family secure, well-fed, and fairly happy. There will be arguments with wife, but you got to solve it with tact and stoicism.

>>58419635
A buddy of mine was with this really cute girl for years. He told me she was a total freak in the sheets lady in the streets type of girl. She seemed like a good conservative girl from what I could tell when I’d meet her. . He said she wanted sex all the time when they were dating and she’d do almost anything for him if he asked. She sounded like a dream wife.

Then he got married to her.

She never slept with him one time after that and her personality completely changed. She stopped acting interested in him and wouldn’t do anything around the house. Then out of desperation he fucked some girl from work and when his wife found out she destroyed the entire house and divorced him.

All I’m saying is be careful op. Women are that they make you believe they are.

>>58419694
Sounds like a bullshit story to me

This life is pretty hard without a partner

>>58419635
A monogamous marriage without kids is a travesty and barely sustainable. Marrying early and putting off having kids is retarded. Why set yourself up for failure. Kids are purpose, for both you and her. Do you plan to keep buying her shit for the upcoming years to pacify her urge to be a mother? Only marry if you plan having kids, and if you're close to making it, or have made it. Also don't marry a piece of shit.

>>58419694
Image blaming the other person for cheating this way. Kek. Subhuman who should have just ended it and moved on.

>>58419640
Note to the fags out there.

You do not buy the wedding ring to propose with. You buy an engagement ring, then take her ring shopping for the real one after she says yes.

>>58419694
this story is made up

>>58419694
>She never slept with him one time after that and her personality completely changed
bullshit. she wouldnt be able to sustain being fake for years

>>58419635
>(both late 20's).
Extreme oof

>>58419703
>>58419734
>>58419962
>>58419970
Cope.

>kids in a few years
>both in our late 20s
Enjoy spending a year and a half nutting into an empty egg carton so her dusty withered womb can miscarry twice and then push out a nonverbal autist. Be sure to give him unrestricted internet access from an early age, /biz/ will need fresh blood after all.

>>58419635
>Whats it like, before and after?

Sounds generic, but it's the truth: you give up a little bit of yourself, but in turn you discover/unlock a new part of yourself as well.

It's not easy. It's different for everyone. I slept around a lot before I was married and that addiction to the chase/cooming in random women has been a massive challenge for me to overcome. I made mistakes and had to work things through with my wife. But when you choose a woman that you truly love and loves you back, you can work together and help each other become better people.

Yes, there are lots of toxic, terrible women (and men) who will tell you how terrible marriage is, etc. I also think there are a lot of broken people who have only seen marriage through the lens of their parent's/relative's unsuccessful marriages. If you come from this kind of negative background, marriage might not be for you.

But I think of some of the most successful people I know and I don't think they'd be where they are without marriage/children. It pushes you to a different level. Forces you to think about people other than yourself. It's humbling and difficult but also an incredibly worthwhile pursuit.

Anyways, good luck. You WILL have difficult times. You WILL have to work through seemingly dead-ends with your wife. You will absolutely need a strong support system outside your marriage (and so will your wife), whatever that may be. But I think the end result will always be crafting you into a stronger man. That's my experience so far (~5 years married here)

>>58420092
This

>>58420051
dude you guys are retarded. plenty of women have healthy kids in their early 40s.

OP here, thanks for all the financial advice,

>>58420092
This resonates alot with what I'm anticipating.

The thing that I need the most help with is the chase, and having pretty free rein + the success to accompany it with women. I feel like that dopamine addicted part of my mind is screaming at me. I've got a few sessions with a psychologist booked but is there anyone you would recommend seeing specifically? Or anything thats helped you really.

Appreciate the take anon

>>58420051
Jesus lol. I mean I'd love to have a wife many years younger than me but can't choose everything.

>>58419694
Yeah absolutely have seen women take a massive U turn, and seriously fuck up peoples lives. And some even after kids.

Appreciate the warning anon, which is why I'm so at a loss in this situation. Seriously this woman has grown up with 3 sisters, all of whom married, and the most dependable, well raised adults I've ever seen. Loyal AF. Likely the best chance I have of absolute dependability maybe from a woman.

>>58419635
>No more sleeping around
For you

>can't put everything into my career
You'll be forced to soon enough

>have to start thinking about kids in a few years

>>58420388
incel detected

>>58420394
I'm not, but I find incel posting to be funny sometimes lol

I could've been married to two different girls who were both high quality (not at the same time of course), but I chose the party lifestyle. I chose wrong

>>58419635
fuck off normie sex haver

>>58420405

Ok now I need to know more.

What makes you think you chose wrong? How old are you?

I know for a fact that if I let this marriage opportunity go, this work/lifestyle will just enable me seek out hook ups and party life style.

It’s the thing that’s getting to me, marriage suddenly seems so serious and sober, but what’s the alternative. Keep partying in my late 20’s and 30’s?

>>58420571
When I say I chose wrong, I meant in the sense that whatever the choice is on the other side of the drug/alcohol choice is the correct one. What I should've done is sober up then properly assess my situations(s). I'm 45. As long as my heart holds up (big if), I have plenty of time to fix my mistakes

If you have a clear mind, you should have an idea of whether this life is for you or not. As much as I love the freedom this way gives me, I think it's ultimately going to leave me feeling unfulfilled.

>>58420589
>I'm 45
Big oof. You have zero time. You actually have negative time, you should have been married with kids 20 years ago.

>>58420589
The drugs & alcohol I can agree with, they've become less and less fun while, and I know its a wagie take, levelling up my competency, pay and respect in my work is way more satisfying.

I guess I'm more drawn to the easy dating/casual hookup and quite free world outside marriage. If anything thats messing up my clear mind.

>>58420593
>You have zero time
I have a heart defect due to drug use that may be a ticking time bomb. Or may not, we'll see Wednesday and beyond, I am extremely healthy and fit so even if it is failing I'll have at least 5-7 years. That's not quite as much as I want, but plenty of time to do what I need to do.

>>58420598
The thing with that is it will get tiresome as well. At that point if you don't keep yourself top-notch, you'll struggle to find an equally good one. Then you'll feel the regret.

Life is full of chances though. Pick one way (take your time deciding) and then live that way with conviction.

>>58420609
Big dog, your #1 priority should be finding a good girl to have a family with, aside from not dying. Hope my previous post wasn't coming off as "it's over", it's not. Rather, you just don't have any time to delay, you're well behind already.

>>58420609
>I have a heart defect due to drug use that may be a ticking time bomb.
Too much coke? How often did you do it and for how long?

>>58420609
sound advice, thanks anon

>>58419635
Disgusting nails

>>58419635
ngl I don't get married because of what it may imply financially, wedding costs, house, living with someone else, etc
sincerely I would be more relieved making coins in pinksale than betting a lot of money on a person that I don't even know if she will stay with me forever

>married a 5/10 midwest virgin like polbiz said
>from good home, thin, frugal, etc.
>we are excited to start a family
>turns out she has endometriosis and cant have kids
>she just mopes around the house doing trivial chores all day

>>58421273
it's not over. it will cost money but you should rent the womb of a surrogate mother in ukraine or india. but you should do some deep research to find a healthy surrogate in a non-polluted city and be sure to have access to the best clinics in case of emergencies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0euVSmfVcWc

>>58421273
couple here had 21 babies this way. nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCUvUvbXio

>>58419635
Don't listen to the sad NEETS and rest retarded boomers that ruined their marriages and now think their wife divorced them for "no reason at all". I'll tell you my perspective as a married man.
>No more sleeping around,
Sleeping around is overrated. Sex with a women you love that truly loves you is the most based and pleasurable sex in the world. If you just want to cum, just jerk off. But I promise if you learn every corner of your wife's body that the nut is top tier. Can't be beaten.
>can't put everything into my career (I've already turned down a huge opportunity),
It's the opposite. You might not be able to move for a career easily. But with a wife there to take on some of the responsibility of the home, and to just generally support you, you can potentially advance your career a lot further. Especially if she's got any professional experience or connections.
>have to start thinking about kids in a few years (both late 20's).
That's the choice you make. It doesn't need to be the end of you though. Plan accordingly.
>Why was I so excited to get to this point, and now am having serious doubts.
What doubts specifically?
>Questions are welcome, but married men I mainly want your story.
My wife is the most down to earth woman I've ever met. Doesn't hurt she she's beautiful and was attracted to me. Being married financially speaking is the single best move you can ever make.* We share expenses, we have two incomes, we get a preferable tax bracket, we have two homes, we have two professional networks where half of that network is my wife's ivy league connections and the other is my FAGMAN connections. Basically power couple status.

>>58421321
Cont.
My advice is to learn your wife on a deep level. Pry when she looks upset and says it's nothing. Take what she tells you and really try to understand. Don't try to logic your way to a solution.
Learn to fuck her to climax consistently. I don't mean like sometimes she cums. Make her cum every single time multiple times.
Be a stable rock in your household. Basically every month she's gonna do what women do. This is your window of opportunity. You can either ignore it and watch her grow to resent you with time or you can be her rock of stability and she'll realize she can't live without you.
Understand that you both hopefully bring something unique and necessary to the table and play off those strengths. If done right you should be in the easy mode part of life now.
Take your time on having children. I understand you want to start a family but make sure that you and your wife are fully connected at the soul before you bring children into the mix because they WILL suck the intimacy out of your marriage.
Finally don't take advice from single incel cunts that have never touched a woman that watched a video made by some retarded boomer that doesn't know why he wife left him. Know that boomers ruined everything in this world and marriage is no different.

>>58419684
That last part for sure. As the man it's your job to regulate the pace of things. If she's on the monthly and trying to start an argument. Know it's happening and give her a piece of chocolate instead. The dick her down later and she'll apologize for being out of line.

>>58419694
His fault for cheating instead of talking to his wife about his needs.

>>58420373
If you crave that chase, ask your wife to go on roleplay dates with you. Both of you go out to a bar separately and you pick her up as if she were a different woman.

>>58421321
>down to earth
>Doesn't hurt she she's beautiful and was attracted to me
that's quite unrealistic for most people though

>>58421326

how would you advise on a decade long marriage that is now falling apart, where there has been no sex for almost half a year, and the woman 'still not sure if she wants to break up' but won't fucking leave

of course I still love her (I now also hate her)
she is still hot and goes to the gym
she used to like to fuck and suck

also, be honest, you post on reddit as well don't you

>>58420127
And nearly all of them had at least one kid in their 20s.

>>58421375
Talk to her about what it is you're wanting and desiring. Ask her why she hasn't been in the mood and what you can do to change that. This is the important part. She's gonna tell you some things that might hurt your pride. Don't take it personally. Just listen and try to do those things she needs. Your dick will thank you.
Never posted on Reddit. Oldfag circa 2005.

>>58421447
so here's the thing

I think I fucked it up too much with logic? we've already talked a lot, I've done all the things she wanted to change, but she admits it hasn't helped at all, at this point I would be happy with either outcome, either stay or go, just get me out, but she just doesn't leave

>>58421326
>>58421333
>>58421345
>>58421331

Read this back to yourself and unironically tell me it doesn't sound fucking miserable. You get to work your ass off to provide for the family and then you get a 2nd job of managing the emotions of what is essentially a grown adult that acts like a child because she lacks the ability to control her emotions and communicate like an adult. Do you not get mentally and emotionally exhausted dealing with that shit? I know I do and I just flat out tell my gf to fuck off whenever she starts acting like a psycho. She learned to stop doing that really quick and I didn't have to give her chocolate like I was giving a dog a treat for shitting on the floor. I don't care if she's on her period or shit. I don't use how I feel as an excuse to ever be a cunt. Now imagine I didn't have that power because she could just leave and take half of what I've been working for.

I want to let you know first that I do agree with everything you're saying, but this is 2024. If my wife was my legal property and a virgin, then yes, everything you just said is correct and infallible. However, your wife always reserves the right to change her mind because marriage laws essentially incentivize women to leave their marriages when they are "not happy". Combine that with the high chance that your wife probably rode the cock carousel

And before you throw out the tired ad homs, I have a gf, make almost 200k and I've been with over 30 women. No one has ever hurt me and I'm not an ince. Marriage is a high risk low reward gamble for the majority of men. An average man is playing Russian roulette for no prize.

>>58421508
thanks for putting this into words man, it's exactly the way you describe but I didn't want to type it out because I figured it would just make me sound like an incel that doesn't want to 'put in the work'

and I indeed DO get it other poster, it's just the reality of it SOMETIMES, but it can't be the norm

>>58419635
just stay away from women not worth it

>>58421533
Stop letting these miserable trannies and soicucks gaslight you by calling you an incel or that you hate women, or that you're not man enough, etc, etc. Stop letting them gaslight you for not sacrificing your happiness and hard work for someone that doesn't reciprocate.

This guy's wife is acting like a bitch and being an immature child that can't communicate like an adult and his advice to you to do coddle her like a child and give her some fucking chocolate? Then you have to take your ass to work all week to feed and house her? Fuck. That. Shit. How about I tell her to stop acting like a cunt and she blows me as an apology and if she doesn't like it, she can go find someone else that appreciates it. I'm not going to be a slave in my own house that I'm paying for.

The problem is that women don't respect average men. Being an average man is not an insult, it's just what it is and what the majority of us are. Your wife doesn't respect you because she thinks she can do better. She most likely can't. Sure she can go get fucked by some more attractive and richer men, but they're never going to actually marry her. Women are delusional and conflate the two though.

>>58419635
My advice is spend always the time off with her, because I texting and fuck some married girls, and they husband are always busy to watch football or play video games instead of fuck

>>58421548

I feel ya, I feel ya.

It's nuts man, I would be completely pacified if we could just go back to where I at least 'got to' fuck her once a week on a saturday morning and if I was lucky get my cock sucked a bit too

tldr she doesn't think she can enjoy life the way I do, the way most people on this board would agree is best: having made it, enjoying ones hobbies and building connections

she just can't break free from being a wage cuck

>>58421491
Sounds like you need counseling. There's something deeper that doesn't have to do with sex that's making her lose attraction to you.

>>58421508
I assume you're not married and never will be.

>>58421570
well, of course she doesn't want counseling
she's a workaholic but won't admit this is the reasons he's unhappy, I'm pretty sure a therapist would tell her that to her face and that's why she doesn't want to go

>>58421574
Maybe she's not attracted to your work ethic in comparison to your own?

>>58421593
Her own*

>>58421568
Sex is extremely important to men in a relationship. Stop letting her and other people gaslight you into feeling shame because you have physical needs and stop feeling guilty for expecting your partner to meet those needs. Always do a gender flip and see if it holds up. Imagine a man telling his wife that he doesn't feel like supporting her financially anymore. Everyone would unanimously say he's a loser and not doing his job. Women are not held to those standards. You're expected to sacrifice for nothing with modern marriage

>ldr she doesn't think she can enjoy life the way I do
This is basically code for "I'm a modern woman that was bought into the delusional Disney fantasy and now that I've realized that a real life marriage is a lot of hard work I want out and to jump back on the cock carousel because that is what society has told women their purpose is"

You need to speak to a lawyer, not a therapist or counselor. Therapy is a waste of time. I'm not going to pay money to sit in an office and be told I'm not trying hard enough to bend over backwards for a person that should actually be in therapy instead of me. This isn't going to turn around. If communicating with her isn't working, then you need to get ahead of it and get out of the relationship to minimize how much you lose.

>>58421572
This is another ad hom. If this is how you want to debate, I'm just going to start calling your by your rightful title, cuck.

>>58421603
It's not an ad hom. You just sound incredibly anti social and you think you're perfect coming into the relationship and so you'll never love anyone enough to have a happy marriage. Kind of sad that people will think you're anything but sad and unfulfilled.

>>58421629
You sound like a redditor making assumptions. I have a great relationship and my gf actually respects and me and I treat her with nothing but love. Let me know how that "happy wife happy life" shit is working for you in another 5-10 years. I'll still be happy. You should try getting some standards before you tell other people they're unfulfilled.

>>58421642
Whatever you like. I'm sure you're having fun with this girlfriend. And when she leaves you'll have fun with the next and the next and the next. But you'll keep getting older and they'll become less fulfilling each time. I'll still be living happy. Like I told the other anon, never been to Reddit. I can just smell unhappy people trying to drag others down into their misery.

Childless incel Nick Fuentes has been giving me a lot of food for thought on this subject lately.

1h38m:
https://rumble.com/v4pw8y6-america-first-ep.-1320.html

I can’t speak to your concern about wanting to sleep around. I never had a whole lot of luck with that early on when I really needed it(late teens) and before I meet my wife. It was always a self confidence problem for me. But I can confidently say I was insanely lucky to meet my wife. She’s incredible, my best friend, hot as fuck to me, makes a killing financially..bread winner by far, is so good to me and would never ever think about other dudes. She’s my dream wife for sure. However, I’m about 4 years in to marriage but we been bangin for about 16 years and the sex more or less has slowly fallen off a cliff, work stress related and hormone imbalance for her. I recently really communicated my concerns about it and told her how often us men need it and she was very understanding. She’s made a lot of changes by herself recently to help the situation, working out, eating better, and even went to a hormone specialist. Before I used to just act sour and depressed and she would just ask what was wrong. I was terrible at communicating about my need for sex so it didn’t go anywhere. tldr…marriage will only work if you have mutual respect for each other and very good communication. It will slowly fall apart if you don’t have both of those things. Heard the same thing from a few people married for many decades.

>>58421603
>>58421548
>>58421508
Based and wisepilled

>>58421653
Another one:

1m50s
https://rumble.com/v4o3fdw-marriage-is-the-end-of-the-male-lifecycle.html

>>58419635
>can't put everything into my career (I've already turned down a huge opportunity),

What happened here? I have a buddy who brought his girlfriend cross country for a new job opportunity multiple times.

>>58421273
You posted this before. You guys haven't figured out any goals for yourselves to strive for? One of my professors had a wife who couldn't conceive and adopted kids to have a successful family before she passed.

>>58419635
> can't put everything into my career (I've already turned down a huge opportunity)
As for this, don’t be such a pussy and start your own business then have other people do the work for you so you can focus on things that matter in life, not wage slaving.

>>58421662
Yup communication is what it takes. Drop your pride and really talk about it. Chances are she wants sex too. You both just have to find out why it's not happening.

>>58421603
>>58421651


this is nice, we have like two guys on the opposite side of the spectrum, with essentially the same goal but different methods

I don't agree 100% with either of you, I think red is a bit of a faggot bitch and green is slightly too edgy, but you both seem to be having more sex than I am at the moment, being a reasonable centrist guy in the middle

>say you won't support her anymore financially
well I'm not, that's the thing, she makes just about the same amount of money as I do

yeah it's a real fucking pickle, I have decided, and told her, that I will be leaving and expect her to start looking for an appartment.

it still hasn't seemed to make much difference to her, and I expect she still doesn't believe I'm about to gtfo

all this could be solved if she just had 20 minutes of sex with me once in a while

>>58419635
After I got married and had a couple kids I revived a hobby I used to be really into. I don't want my sons to say their dad used to be a racecar driver, I want them to say their dad IS a racecar driver. The last championship trophies I have are from 2014. Last year I got the car rolling again, this year I'm gonna get me a new championship. As soon as they're big enough they'll be in go karts too of course.

Never was interested in sleeping around. I always wanted someone to grow old with. I don't care about career, that's just a thing I have to do to have money.

>>58419635
You're currently sleeping around? It's the same as being in a long term relationship except the legal and financial consequences of breaking up afterwards.

>I'm an incel btw

>>58419635
Can you teach me how to get a trad wife?

>>58419635
Not saying your life will end up like this, but
>uncle gets married has 4 kids
>has good job wife takes all his money his kids end up hating him and using him for money
>goes to therapy because his wife emotional abuse for years

I think the incel life is better than this shit.

You’re supposed to put off that shit and grind till you reach a comfy place before marriage retard. You’re a man, you’re prime is literally in your 30’s, if you’re /fit/ and take care of yourself you can literally get 10/10’s in your late 30’s since you’re now established and wealthy.

>>58419635
>christian
>conservative
lol, good luck with that, once she has children all bets are off.

>>58419635
>>58421321
>>58421758
green is a faggot and red is right imo, literally went from a complete truecel to married to the woman of my dreams getting pretty much everything i want out of life.
> jlpt n1 moving to japan with her, permanent residency in 1 year
> she has connections in the music industry and is pretty popular
> seriously mind blowing sex 20/10 better than cooming so good my porn addiction vanished
> does whatever I want and wears whatever I want her to
> etc etc etc
i don't care if you think this is true or not but this guide and what green is saying worked 1000% for me and I will shill it with has much conviction as possible. It literally feels like a cheat code honestly, but I guess it did take a lot of work to get to this point

>>58421880

>>58420593
for men it generally doesn't matter how old they are. seed stays good. the egggs go bad quickly.

>>58421912
Untrue, it just stays good longer than a woman’s eggs.

>>58420092
Yep, in a nutshell, it sucks and it doesn’t suck.

Going the gym and seeing hot young pieces of ass in skin tight yoga pants and coming home to my wife whose body changed after pregnancy (and she’s got stretch marks) is the biggest pain of all. She’s an amazing cook and never misses there. But she’s also a woman and can get irrational. She’s prone to laziness and taking the easy way out but she is a very good mother (exclusively breastfeeds our kid) and I know how hard it is to get a woman who loves you, wants to have sex with you more than you want to, is willing to raise your family the way you want
(No vax, breastfeed, no formula, homeschool, stays at home) and is the one who’s scared of YOU leaving. That is gold. I just wish she could magically also look like a big booty gym thot and also have the ability to look like a different one every few months. And also be less aloof and more prepared. I’m hoping things get easier as the baby gets older and less attached.

>>58420373
If I can make it to the point of being able to afford high quality prostitutes who let you hit it raw, that would be plenty for me.

>>58421946
what does she get from this? or is she just doing it because she's scared of you leaving ? is she a real hambeast?

>>58421273
Ask her if you can knock up someone else just for the baby? Have Trouple? Inseminate someone. There’s option for YOU to still be able to have a biological child if she can’t.