/biz/ - Business & Finance

It's called wage slavery for a reason

>>583700
The numbing effect of the division of labor is a theory stretching back to Adam Smith.

>>583700
Nice b8 cartoon

>>583706
I never understood this, it cheapens the word slavery. Slavery means you have no choice.

Even if you have fair or sucky choices, at least you have them.

>>583707
explain pls. iam to dumb to understand but i like it

>>583848
In a nutshell, it goes from a craftsman making a piece of furniture to a low wage worker only screwing in furniture legs.

>>583829

It has nothing to do with slavery in the context that the anon is using it. The usage comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of Marx.

>>583861
What Marx really meant?

>>583861
So are we matrix?
Because we have some semblance of choice, then we are not slaves.

If I stop working I can't eat or live. I am a slave.

>>583865

Its a comparison of who owns what in various systems with assorted means of production.

>>583924

And if you don't hunt or gather food in the wilds where we fucking evolved you also starve. You aren't a slave just because you have to work to feed yourself you fucking pinko commie.

>>583848
>>583855
Adam Smith time
"the trade of a pin-maker...could scarce, perhaps, with his utmost industry, make one pin in a day, and certainly could not make twenty.

But in the way in which this business is now carried on, not only the whole work is a peculiar trade, but it is divided into a number of branches, of which the greater part are likewise peculiar trades. One man draws out the wire; another straights it; a third cuts it; a fourth points it; a fifth grinds it at the top for receiving the head; to make the head requires two or three distinct operations; to put it on is a peculiar business; to whiten the pins is another; it is even a trade by itself to put them into the paper; and the important business of making a pin is, in this manner, divided into about eighteen distinct operations, which, in some manufactories, are all performed by distinct hands, though in others the same man will sometimes perform two or three of them. I have seen a small manufactory of this kind, where ten men only were employed, and where some of them consequently performed two or three distinct operations. But though they were very poor, and therefore but indifferently accommodated with the necessary machinery, they could, when they exerted themselves, make among them about twelve pounds of pins in a day. There are in a pound upwards of four thousand pins of a middling size. Those ten persons, therefore, could make among them upwards of forty-eight thousand pins in a day. Each person, therefore, making a tenth part of forty-eight thousand pins, might be considered as making four thousand eight hundred pins in a day. But if they had all wrought separately and independently, and without any of them having been educated to this peculiar business, they certainly could not each of them have made twenty"

if you want an interesting job be the guy who organizes the "manufactory"

>>584195
Adam Smith was wrong.

>>584196
would you rather have 4800 pins or 20 pins?

even if the evil CEO capitalist pig dog takes 99% of those pins you are still up 28 pins

Adam Smith was right all along, maybe Ayn Rand too.

>>584196
Adam Smith needs revision. That's the quote.

>>584196
>wrong
Documentation and observation of how things occur. I've read the book. All 1200 sum odd dry/painful pages(including the Digression on Silver... torture), and he scarcely makes a value judgment of what he records.

To put it simply, it's "just the facts."

>>584205
Ayn Rand pretty much predicted the current state of the US economy with Atlas Shrugged.

>>584205
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>>584196
>I have no argument so I'll just post shitty pictures ridiculing you, but I don't realize this makes me look like an idiot

>>584226
What argument you silly goose. It's a movie quote. Take yourself less seriously lol

>>584230
It's a shit movie.

>>584236
ahahaha

>>583700
you sound like you should start your own company

The government taxes everyone too much

capitalism is responsible for boosting the production of oil by 70% in the last 10 years.

so shut up. you know nothing about capitalism.

>>584252
Taxation is theft. There's no such thing as a fair tax.

The concept of a job makes most people hate things that that even loved. A person loves to paint, but once he has deadline requirements, a boss hovering over him, and treated like a employee and not an artist, he will begin to hate painting.

It's common human psychology.

>>583700
Your life probably sucks because you are barely literate, not because of your job.

>>584185
Hunter gatherers are also slaves.

>>584293
Slaves to who? It's a fact of nature that humans have to find food to eat.

>>584296

Don't try to logic with him. He's either trolling or stupid.

>>584219
But our government isn't nationalizing everything like in the book. Unless we Venezuela.

>>584296
Slave to needs and later to wants.

>>584300
Not yet. By prediction I don't mean everything happens the same way, just the general ideas and outcomes.

>>584301
That's not a person, shitlord.

>>584219

you forgot

>inb4
>high schooler
>she used Social Sec
>Look Norway is the shining example of socialism working

>>584306
Even through her own philosophy accepting social security payments is not immoral since it is money stolen from her she is simply reappropriating it.

Norway is only doing well because of the access they have to arctic oil and that they steal the profits of it from the people drilling the oil. Their time will come.

>>584306
Norway is not a "socialist" country in any dictionary definition. It is a fairly large market economy with a large welfare state.

>>583829
>I never understood this, it cheapens the word slavery.
No it doesn't.

>Slavery means you have no choice.
Exactly.

>Even if you have fair or sucky choices, at least you have them.
In that case, the slaves you're thinking of had them too. They could attempt to run away, try to kill their masters, kill themselves, etc.

>>584311
>and that they steal the profits of it from the people drilling the oil.
I'm not sure what you mean, but oil offshore jobs are some of the best paid jobs in Norway

>>584718
well thats about to change aint it?

>>584718
Norway claims sovereign ownership of the North Sea oil, so no one else is allowed to make profit off of prospecting the area.