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fellow OG here just sold 100k

Also an OG. I just unstaked and sold it all this last dump. I just don't see LINK over performing Bitcoin or even Apu. I am so demoralisation.

>>58382833
Ok I read your incel manifesto.
Those last two paragraphs are hilarious.
Kek fuddies.

This doesnt just go for LINK either. Alts are getting less lucrative for various reasons, but it is contributing to underperformance of legitimate projects.
The floodgates were opened to browns in the past years for investing and the internet. launching tokens also became as easy and cheap as making an email. This has caused a serious saturation of alt coins, as well as all facades being dropped as brown people have no creativity or smarts for trying with alts. its all just dog coins and meme; literally the same as 2021 still with no changes.

Back in the day people at least had to have a brain and put up cash to ICO or launch a PoW. so alts had a viable pretence for existing mostly. Even in DEFI summer food coins often had a legit attempted usage.

This means people are rushing straight for the memes and dogs to gamble now and its the final form of alts before this space matures and the gains become stock like. Its stealing a lot of liquidity from legit projects, and people entering want to gamble now not invest which compounds it.

LINK is not going to beat that inertia, and neither are most legit coins in the top 15

Indeed my fellow OG ICO Chainlinkers, I also am fearful, uncertain and doubtful of my investment and I will be shortly heading to the Binance cryptocurrency exchange to market sell all of my Top1000 wallet never traded Chainlink (ticker: LINK) tokens because I've made such a bad investment and I urge every other OG ICO Chainlink (ticker: LINK) investor to do the same because I, an anonymous poster, care deeply about your financial well-being.

We've all held for so long, but in all honesty it's time to stop the cope and just market sell our Chainlink (ticker: LINK) tokens immediately. I'm just so tired. You tired too? Let's sell together

Investing in LINK is still your best bet if you dont want to actually gamble. However I think much like Eth will never reclaim 0.15BTC per Eth, or even close to it, LINK is not going to reclaim 0.0017 BTC per LINK again. far from it. It's probably going to give a good 2.5x against BTC this run, which is a damn sight better than gambling. I just understand the reality now.
Link and ETH will be the only things really left standing in 5 years. BTC might be $300k, LINK might be $150. It will probably be around todays prices in sats though. The reality is all the other shit is going to drop to nothing, much worse. LINK and ETH will manage to stay where they are, and that will be enough to be top 3 by then.
It wont thrive as such, it will survive

However if we assess LINK as it is now; there really is no excuse for ADA being way above it, or various other things. That is all on Sergey and the way it has been managed.

>>58382833
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>>58382984
BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDOS HOW YOU DOING BASED KIDDOS POOLS CLOSED LPL FUCKING SEETHE HAHAHAHAHA YOU MISSED OUT AWWWW SHKEKS!

>>58382833
solana going to 200 for absolutely no reason at all was a pretty good top signal too looking back

>>58383142
based romanian gypsy tell me about the pool, is it based
did it tell your fortune

>>58383201
POOLS FUCKING CLOSED LPL ANON

WE FUCKING TOLD YOU BUY LPL STAY BASED AND FUCKING CHUDDIE KIDDOS PILLED

LPL

HUH?

LPL

HUH???

>>58382833
OG checking in. Thats actually my picture you posted OP. Still holding but im old and fat now. Still waging. Have a little over half what i started with. But a bit stack of rose which is also a steaming turd unfortunately. I hate sergey now. I dont make memes anymore. Im basically a living zombie until it goes to 1000

It's been surreal to watch it become the /biz/ version of GME / XRP.
I guess it's just human nature to have the same reaction and double down. People really don't like believing that they've been played for fools, they will always just blame somebody else and come up with conspiracy theories

>>58382984
if we assess it now, Link is a dying shitcoin past its prime with weekly dumps by the team. I have seen Link cling to top 10 multiple times now, but this time is unironically over. -20% in one day really hurts

>>58382961
agree 100% I think 50k sats is the most we can hope for ever again against BTC. If we could get a meaningful move in sats for some reason as btc is pumping, if large cap alts could get an actual pump this cycle, then we could see 50 bucks as btc tops out around 100k, but i think that is the absolute most bullish case scenario for link, maybe unrealistic. more likely we crab here in the 10-20 dollar range for the rest of the run as we stagnate/bleed in sats

I'm in the same spot as you OP but with a different coin. Our dev teams have developed nothing worth noting and any "news" that would have caused speculation which in turn cause a price increase has been siphoned by the wave of memecoins taking the spotlight. I'm not here to sell you something, just know that you're not the only one to realize the crypto market for what it is. I fell hard for the "I'm in it for the tech" meme that's exactly why I bought Crypto to begin with. Nobody cares about the tech, and realistically nobody ever did. Meme coins cut the bullshit and sell you exactly what Crypto is - a meme and these past two runs have finally made me realize that.

>>58382833
you married your bags, it happens to the best of us. good luck anon.

>>58382890
>The floodgates were opened to browns in the past years for investing and the internet. launching tokens also became as easy and cheap as making an email. This has caused a serious saturation of alt coins, as well as all facades being dropped as brown people have no creativity or smarts for trying with alts.
one of the most insightful posts ever written on biz. very true, browns ruined crypto to an extent. it really is just a metaphor for what they will do to our entire civilization next.

>>58382833
Agreed, insofar as you can make more money gambling than you can holding just about any asset. But people who choose to gamble overwhelmingly lose to people who invest.

I'm pretty confident link will be 3 digits by the decade's end, and it could be a hell of a lot more and it could happen sooner. Sure, gamble if you want, but you're a retard if you sold more than half your stack to do so

>>58382833
Checked and i solded too. Its just a coincidence it dump hard on the release of the transporter ccip front end. Coincidences happen a lot and dont really mean anything. I think we should all just sell to send a message, what do you ICO buyer guys think?

>>58347614
Same boat OP. I made this thread, and am waiting on cooldown period to withdraw. Lucky me, we tank 25% since I hit the unstake button. FUCK YOU SERGEY

>>58384496
>I'm pretty confident link will be 3 digits by the decade's end
its about opportunity costs tho, is it worth holding for another 6 years for a 5x if you could have sold your stack and invested in other things and done 50x over those 6 years?

Same, brother. This whole chainlink situation has turned me unironically into a bitcoin maximalists. I know how important chainlink is for the entire defi ecosystem, but I'm not gonna be the one who funds this whole enterprise and get nothing in return.

There is no second best. Just stack sats.

>>58384386
She has no left hand, its pizza dough, you can't unsee.

>>58382833
>duuuuuuuuuuude its Le coincidence

>Le coincidence

>>58384754
>>58384773
most altcoins can do this sorta shit if they were as desperate for cope as linkies are, because like link they too haven't done anything to warrant decoupling from bitcoin.

It's time to grow the fuck up and stop making excuses for you cult. This is supposed to be le god protocol utility coin, and it has had seven years and tons of money to build something that was capable of decoupling from BTC rather than performing just like any other speculative shitcoin or worse. Whining about some imaginary external boogeyman isn't going to save Link, it's actually only making it even more of a joke than it already is on biz. You want to be in a GME-style cult have at it though.

>>58384906
you're responding to a paid spammer
>>/biz/image/VYZj59GJS5-9W4FYX8lMDA

>>58382984
What's Sergey done wrong from a management perspective?

>>58384967
Could you please explain what is happening in your discord right now?

>>58384915
oh kek okay, I underestimated their budget for advocates.

>>58384915
>>58385013
>7 posts ranging from 2023 to now
>le paid spammer
Lmao this is what a paid spammer looks like

>>58385090
not my fault you changed the md5 hash, this particular shitpost has been spammed dozens and dozens of times since last year

>>58384686
Your odds are a lot lower than you think

>>58385245
>there is only one poster that has noticed the LINK suppression
lmao you are a special kind of brown retard aren't you
fucking tourist

>>58384754
So why would they dump btc which requires way more money to move so they could influence some altcoin way down in the coin market cap ranks... why wouldn't they just... dump link and skip this retarded complication..
Alts pump with btc and dump with btc, when you overlay the link chart with the total crypto aggregate chart it looks exactly the same

>>58384773
>correlation = causation
Actually I think I farted that time so me farting must cause bitcoin to dump. I can track many times when I fart to bitcoin dumping .. it can't be a ((coincidence))!

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>>58384978
My blog:
The past weeks have made me realise that LINK is not going to see a new ATH against BTC again, and probably not even close. The same as ETH never did.
If LINK gets its act together and becomes pump-able again, it is more likely this space would have finally matured, and rather than pumping to new highs against BTC, the market will fall around it forcing it to a top spot instead as all the crap fades into obscurity.

Most likely, the peak for next run will be 70k sats or something like that.

Objectively speaking I think I got a bit caught up in the good idea and believing it was inevitable but reality doesn't work that way. it actually feels good to let go of that.
I've never been a fud fag or a diehard faggot, despie holding since 2018. however the longer time goes on I seriously question the mental profile of a lot of holders now who have become more dogmatic. Just as the state of fudders is more deranged than ever, some supporters are too. both are holders.

The whole "btc dumps to supress link" thing was funny at first, creepy for a bit, but now i see it for what it is: LINK is just not a well performing token for various reasons, and this "coincidence" of BTC dumping when it moves or news comes is literally just that: a coincidence. Why? because the token has just flat out performed badly, and done its pumping years ago. What you are seeing is: link dumping because it performs bad and the coincidence is actually BTC dumping sometimes when LINK does too. not the other way around

I sold my stack after I met an Airbnb host in 2021 who was a 60 year old retired grandma that held Chainlink

>>58382833
Legitimately interested in buying that shirt

>>58385312
so all of these noticers are making the "suppression" image over and over again instead of using the already existing one?
shut the fuck up you literal spic
has anyone else noticed an uptick of blatant ESLs aggressively shilling shitlink? really makes you think

>>58382833
it's the right decision. I sold my LINK for APU a few weeks ago, best decision so far. I only had like 50 LINKies though

We deluded ourselves that we weren't gambling, but we were just betting on a different table - "will crypto (beyond bitcoin) mature into a useful basket of tech or will it remain a scam that transfers sats from idiots to sharks?"
We picked some early wins with SWIFT and other big real world players, rode our bet from $0.20 to $20 and saw this as a confirmation that we were right. Turns out it was just more people doing the same bet as us, and then a lot more people gained awareness, did their research and bet on the other side, on memecoins and shitty casinos.
I was the midwits all along.

>>58382833
>this "coincidence" of BTC dumping when it moves or news comes is literally just that: a coincidence
Typically you can't predict coincidences.

Bitcoin dumping on Link news and pumps is 95% of the reason for Link's price action.

I just keep buying more lol. Just not gonna sell is all.

>>58385596
kek I guess you're a cuckold then. poor guy, BTC whales just bullying the fuck out of you for sport now. They've had years of suppressing link afterall per the storytelling of linkies, so they must just do it for their own amusement rather than to accumulate. It doesn't take forever to accumulate stink for fucking people who can dump BTC whenever they want. I imagine them just laughing at you stinkards from the comfort of their yachts. Humiliating.

We deluded ourselves that we weren't gambling, but we were just betting on a different table - "will crypto (beyond bitcoin) mature into a useful basket of tech or will it remain a scam that transfers sats from idiots to sharks?"
We picked some early wins with SWIFT and other big real world players, rode our bet from $0.20 to $20 and saw this as a confirmation that we were right. Turns out it was just more people doing the same bet as us, and then a lot more people gained awareness, did their research and bet on the other side, on memecoins and shitty casinos.
I was the midwits all along.

>>58385634
But I hold way more BTC than Link.

>>58385648
>ego invested in link so much you resort to schizo cope
>supposedly owning a non-trivial amount of btc

>>58385674
Link trying to break out of $22 is the reason Bitcoin fell from $73k and still hasn't recovered.
Link is extremely important to the performance of my BTC bags and indeed all of my portfolio.

>>58385735
huh??
your BTC bags are up almost 100% against LINK since Nov 2023, reset your blockfolio perhaps

>>58385786
Based LPL chuddie kiddo how you doing based kiddo pools fuckong closed HUH? LPL FUCKING SEETHE

>>58385786
Your post has literally nothing to do with what I said.
Impressive.

>>58385798
how is LINK important to your BTC bags when BTC is handily outperforming it?

>>58385735
Is this supposed to be funny? Because it isn't. Are you okay bud? You sound like you're about to break down and hurt yourself.

>>58385818
Because Link determines things like BTC's local tops.

>>58385825
What's funny is how predictable the suppression is.

>>58384754
>>58384915
That pic should be featured in the MSM and be included in economics textbooks.
It’s a startling illustration of price suppression on its own, and it’s only a small part of an effort going back YEARS.

Documentaries will be made about this.

>Holding link in 2024
Any shit coin that biz shills is better then having a link baggy. Serious any shit coin is better than link. APU, BANANAS, GMC even fucking ROSA is better then being a link baggie.

>>58385831
and??
you hold way more BTC than LINK and BTC consistently outperforms your small bags
what's the issue here?

>>58385869
>what's the issue with something that makes your bags dump?

>>58385874
a single digit percentage of a dump is that much of a concern to you? it's still trading almost at the previous ATH
LINK on the other hand literally lost a quarter of its value in mere minutes

>>58382833

Never bought link, just here for the lulz.

>>58385880
>a single digit percentage of a dump is that much of a concern to you?
This >>58384773
was roughly 10% in a few hours.

These four dumps >>58384754
are 30%, 15%, 20%, and 10% respectively

Pic related was also 10% in a few hours.

Whenever Bitcoin dumps like this out of nowhere, I always check the Link twitter and chart.

>>58385935
why are these dumps so important to you as a BTC holder when BTC always recovers to new all time highs?

>>58385945
>hurrr why are dumps and local tops important to you
You are the dumbest gorilla nigger in the entire Congolese nigger infested jungle.

You obviously don't hold any Bitcoin at all. You exclusively hold Link, and therefore anything that outperforms Link just has this halo of perpetual and unshakable success in your eyes.

>>58385981
>resorts to insulting
I'm an actual BTC holder and I guarantee you that I never think of LINK whenever my bags dump/pump/crab
you obviously don't hold ANY Bitcoin at all. You exclusively hold LINK, and therefore anything happening to the market MUST revolve around you and your precious alt bags
kek

>>58386002
>I never think of LINK whenever my bags dump

Well you should.

>>58386013
well, I shouldn't, and neither should you if you have a much larger bag of BTC as you've claimed

>>58384906
most altcoins can do this sorta shit if they were as desperate for cope as linkies are, because like link they too haven't done anything to warrant decoupling from bitcoin.
>It's time to grow the fuck up and stop making excuses for you cult. This is supposed to be le god protocol utility coin, and it has had seven years and tons of money to build something that was capable of decoupling from BTC rather than performing just like any other speculative shitcoin or worse. Whining about some imaginary external boogeyman isn't going to save Link, it's actually only making it even more of a joke than it already is on biz. You want to be in a GME-style cult have at it though.
>>58385013
>>58385854

>>58386002
>>resorts to insulting

This you bro?
>>58385494

>>58386015
>well, I shouldn't
Well you should.

>>58386022
yes bro, this you on a different id?>>58385312
in that case you insulted me first without offering any arguments, all good now bro?
>>58386028
ok, I prefer simply riding BTC to new ATHs for now

>>58386033
>I prefer simply riding BTC
You're riding with Sergey, fren

>>58386043
no fren, you're riding with the fatman on your own
you don't even own 0.5 BTC

>>58386048
Chainlink helped dictate the outcome of Bitcoin's last bullrun in late 2021, and it's going to help dictate Bitcoin's current bullrun. It already caused the current local top (also ATH).

Better have the official Chainlink twitter on your fax's speedial.

>>58386060
anon, not a single actual BTC holder obsesses, talks, or even thinks about LINK and your schizoid theories
I'm sorry, but it's true, and I'm afraid you've missed your chance to swap your altbags for BTC, perhaps it's time you find something else to recoup your loses
in the meantime, start buying a bit of BTC and I promise you your entire outlook on the market will change, and your schizoid obsessions will cease
t. been there, ex LINK holder

Just popping in to say I'm Never Selling but keep trying, boys. Maybe one day....
t. 60k Link staked

>>58386072
>not a single actual BTC holder obsesses, talks, or even thinks about LINK and your schizoid theories
They do, and they should.

>>58386075
ok fren, you do you
enjoy wasting all of your youth advocating for a dead altcoin on a dead imageboard
godspeed

>>58386072
>start buying a bit of BTC
lmao

I mined BTC in 2011 (I was a buttcoin thread regular on /g/), bought the ETH presale with a fraction of my BTC stack, and bought a ton of ICOs including Link with half of my ETH stack.

>>58386088
I'm sure you did all that

>>58386084
>wasting time
>15pbtid arguing that a regular predictable occurrence is in fact just a koinkidink
I can imagine better ways to spend a Saturday morning.

>>58386108
well, you're here yourself so...

>>58386028
>>58386075

The implication is that bitcoin whales know LINK is the next big thing. They use their ability to manipulate the bitcoin price to suppress LINK so they can accumulate as much as possible.

There is no current significant speculator interest in link. Their is no significant retail interest in link. So it just makes sense to suppress the link price and slowly accumulate as much as possible and demoralize the few /biz/ link holders to sell as possible.

Though at some point this has to stop as tokenization of assets begins in earnest. Then I imagine the stratagem will be to pump the link price as fast as possible to it becomes impossible for retail to hop on board the link train.

>>58386120
You're claiming Link is a dead altcoin though. Not him.
Imagine wasting your time on a dead altcoin like this.

>>58386120
And I'm leaving again to continue sitting in the sun after calling you a faggot. Faggot.

>>58386131
>There is no current significant speculator interest in link.
Only because they managed to keep the price in check.

>>58385494
Kuroba changes the md5 hash sometimes even without a prompt you actual cretin retard rofl.
Haven't noticed an uptick of anything except lazy retard tier fud but then again it's remained at a steady pace ever since troglodytes like you bought the top and got burned.
I bought mine in 2017-2018, we are not the same.

>>58383499
I’ve done a lot since 2018. I moved to a new country, learned the language, got married there and tried carving out a new career. Its been fucking hard. I initially spent savings but was kind of using LINK as a back up thinking by now it would be on its way. So it was a safety net in my head. I doubt i’d have made the move otherwise.
I spent my life savings before dipping into LINK. Then i had to sell some in late 2021. Then some here and there, while i was learning to program and doing a flipping business barely scraping by. I wouldn’t sell the LINk unless i had no choice, as i was thinking and believed it was gonna go back to ath in sats eventually.
I actually lost a fair bit of LINk on leverage at one point, but was trading my way back with it without leverage.

However i have realised all the stuff i wrote in OP in last weeks.
Life is still hard atm, but im making good progress.

Letting go of the fantasy with LINK is very freeing though, and accepting reality. I’m not going to be getting millions from LINK because it wont hit 1k each for decades, let alone $200 or something.
I did not create the reality. It was a good idea and anyone with a brain in crypto from 2018 has been burnt by how this has turned out, as they invested in the best idea of all rather than gambled on alternatives.
However as said, it is freeing to let go of that in my mind and accept i can just dump my stack for whatever it will be worth at about 70k sats or so at the bull peak and move on.
No more thinking about it, wondering when people will realise etc. i now understand the market place as it is, and chainlink as it is and am not deluding myself. I can put that mental energy elsewhere now.

Its not worth being a zombie over it anon

>>58384496
Im not going to gamble.
My point is crypto has moved aggressively to a place now where you can only gamble and not invest. The gains from investing in crypto with potential have shrunk over the years as market flipped fully into gambling. I described this already.

I dont want to gamble. I’m not going to either. I’m gonna hold link and sell it at whatever its peak area seems to be next year and thats that. Because i am not interested in gambling. I just accept the gains wont be much, which goes for eth, or any serious project in the modern crypto environment.

Almost nobody makes money gambling on shitcoins and memes etc anyway. I’m not dumb enough to do it, but thats the form crypto has moved into openly now.

>>58384686
I can buy inventory for my business now and get about a 300% return when i shift it within 6 months to a year for every $10k or so.
There is definitely this factor which increasingly becomes true for many.
If LINK cant even best that why am i holding it? It only makes sense to hold what i cant put into that business as anything over 10k becomes harder to move in a reasonable time period

>>58386371
>>/biz/image/1AqEVuTT-HJ09hf-0kQJGA
ok paid spammer

>>58386619
I accept your concession and defeat. Being a brown nigger cockroach you will never learn from this interaction but that is given considering your circumstances. Stay poor.

>>58382873
don't hope to see LINK pass $100. There's better profit to come buying other oracles like PYTH or waiting to buy SUPRA at tge.

>>58386589
>I just accept the gains wont be much
This moron is actually hopeful someone on here will buy his bs lol. Walls of this crap and still no one even considers selling.
Pools's staying closed, buddy. try again.

>>58382833
oh, you're the adam and eve anon back to pitch a new narrative in order fuck over link bagholders. this is just tryhard fanfic. go fuck yourself.

>>58386885
I'm not that anon lol. i did not trust that guy what so ever. I'm not doing TA here, just examining the market conditions for LINK

>>58386589
You do you, man. Definitely put what capital you can multiply into your business, but I don't see why you'd be upset at the performance of the safest play in crypto that still vastly outperformed tradfi, or why you'd think that it won't continue to do so. It's done 100x in 7 years. It's done 3x in the last 7 months. The narrative is stronger than ever as real institutions are actually using and talking about it. You will never actually capture your opportunity cost, so its pointless to dwell on it.

>>58386754
>>/biz/image/ro0pqeL8SN9vIBB5Lo6L9A
kek a true professional spam shitposter

>>58384423
nah..its the opposite. They realised Bitcoin and meme coins are the only usecases for blockchains. The rest is bullshit. They are smarter than you.

>>58387028
I have no problem with what you said. The issue is how many of us, myself included, even those of us who havent been fudfags or diehard supporters, have been banking on something greater than a 6x in 5 years.
When we got in, back in 2018 or so, we were expecting 3 figs, low 3figs, and even 1k prices. I was very conservative back then and did not believe we'd hit 1k until about 2026-2027. I used to get serious heat and attacks for that.

Even my conservative "fud" level estimations were way wrong. We'd be lucky to be at $100 in 2026 the way it is going.

So while I agree, that a 3x or so is a fine gain for the next year, which is obviously why im not selling to gamble on alts, it kind of defeats the whole narrative we all had about LINK from the start. It's been almost 7 years for me and i've realised what will likely be and certainly what IS. most the gains happened early on. Eth did not overcome that pattern against BTC. Link likely wont either.
I'd be surprised if Eth hits its 2021 high against BTC next year too. Of course, again, that is a fine gain for an investment...
It's not the make it money for the revolutionary early investment we all thought it was. IT could have been, but not only was Sergeys handling of LINK ensuring that wasn't to be(he made compromises for the token price versus the direction he wanted to grow, obviously), it is the direction the market for alts evolved into once browns came too - and there is nothing Sergey can do about that part at least - and all other alts that are serious projects are dealing with that too.
however, lets be honest: there is no reason LINK should be ranked miles blow ADA, DOT, TRX, AVAX, TON, XRP etc.
THAT part is sergeys failure and choices.

At least investing into my business i get the same return or so but have control over it, and can impact it.

>>58387158
>there is no reason LINK should be ranked miles blow ADA, DOT, TRX, AVAX, TON, XRP etc.
>THAT part is sergeys failure and choices.

100% this. Anyone reading this anon's posts and thinking he is crafting fud is retarded. I completely am in the exact same boat as you and have the same thoughts. I will say that if it is correct that a 3x is in order for link during this cycle (i am actually not even that optimistic, i think we are not going above 25) then actually that is pretty good. I am also disappointed in the vision of this investment not panning out whatsoever even close to what we had imagined back in the day, but things in life rarely do. I'm trying to just be grateful for the gains I have made on Link over the years and tamper my expectations, actively planning my exit now if we can get ANY relief in sats.

final thought: being a doomer about it is wrong (im not saying you are being one, just making that point) its actually super based to be positive about this, set yourself up for success in the next project you do. Siphon the energy of fantasizing about what link could have been into something actually productive in reality. That is the way forward

>>58386084
kill yourself nigger
why are you so hellbent on spamming your demonic pilpul
>its JUST a COINCIDENCE okay?

>>58387203
>its sergeys fault the market is manipulated

Didn't read any of the bitch shit in this thread.

Never selling a single one of my 50k LINK.

$100 2024. $300 2025. $1k 2030.

>>58387158
>>58387203
Citi report, newfags
Stop thinking in terms of sats
They don't matter
Link will suck up all the value of crypto

>>58387203
Absolutely. I've let go of what could be or what was "meant" to be for the price etc.
The only thing I still have gripes with is my own mistakes. I could have sold at various points, and have benefited immensely.
However, realistically, I was operating on a different view of LINKs potential at that time so the reality was, one way or another, i was not gonna maximize that chance to sell and move on even if i had sold at the best places.

I guess i should just be thankful it helped me fund at times, even if it wans't much, my move to a different country and change of careers. even if it was hard at the time, and i felt awful about selling some as i was still under the view of me selling x tokens for $30 was costing me hundreds or thousands per token sold in the future... that wasn't actually to be in reality. So it was stress for nothing.

>>58387275
Selling your link now is costing you millions in the future, yes. But maybe funding your black dildo business is worth it to you, who knows

>>58385494
>has anyone else noticed an uptick of blatant ESLs
yes i notice it every day, everywhere I go, its not just limited to crypto or chainlink.

>>58387227
You'll grow up one day.
Soon enough you'll realise what you are in denial of atm. Link is really performing no differently against BTC than something like ADA etc. It's following the same pattern alts did last bear market into the 2021 against btc.
Last time LINK was performing very differently and it was special and an exception and i think a lot of anons, myself included struggled to realise that has not been true or relevant for a long time now. The reason we struggled to let go of that regarding the price and potential price movements at any moment coming, is because we do view LINK as special and different in terms of the actual project itself - because it is. it is head and shoulders above basically anything else in terms of the idea and what it is doing - but that is a separate concern to the actual reality of how it is being priced and its price action - which is not special anymore; just the same as things like ADA were acting last pre halving and bear etc, with most alts.

The BTC dump conspiracy is like some sort of childhood teddy bear some anons are clinging on to to not wake up to the fact LINKs price action is exactly the same as other alts that aren't meme coins now and has been a long time, and isn't changing - even eth hasn't overcome that.
The truth is there is no coincidences like you want to believe. LINK just releases a lot more updates, ideas, projects, conferences etc than just about anything else, and the chances of a BTC dump happening when Chainlink tweet and release one is high because of the volume of them. its confirmation bias. ADA and DOT or whatever release maybe 3 updates a year. No shit its not going to look the same.

>>58387275
I have similar anger about not making the perfect moves in 2020, moving link into btc, etc... But yeah dwelling on that is not setting yourself up for success. Link has been a mindfuck of epic proportions, even among crypto projects which all are already speculative mindfucks, so its good you are cutting yourself some slack.

In any successful person's life, they fumble the bag a few times before really getting into what sets them on a path of success. I see Link as a first of probably many slight fumbles that I will try to learn from moving forward onto other investments and business opportunities. The mentally undeveloped and weak person clutches their bag tighter, making up any number of schizo reasons or doing mental gymnastics to keep the fantasy alive. The sane and mature person learns and moves on.

>>58387246
>Stop thinking in terms of sats
They're not thinking in terms of sats. They want YOU to think in terms of sats. Pure fud. Not working, either kek

>>58387325
>>58387329
>grow up
>holding link means you are undeveloped
yawn
Literally nothing has changed
If you thought link was a good buy in 2018, it's objectively an even better buy/hold now
You are emotional and projecting this emotionality onto others

>>58387329
I think any smart people in this space who were here since pre 2017 or so understand the underlying mechanisms of DLT got burnt on Chainlink, if they took the time to know about what it was.

some cut their losses.
some built stuff
some became deranged bagholders who fud
some became deranged bagholderes who invent conspiracy and clutch on to it.

I'm not surprised at any of these reactions. As you said. we all got burnt on it for seeing its potential. it wasn't buying doge or some stupid shit. or buying BTC at ATH.
In many cases it was buying LINK for floor prices and still getting burnt.

definitely that is going to make a few people absolutely nuts and deranged - and its no surprise me now how the LINK community is full of really deranged people dedicated to scornful fud, anger, or the other side of the coin with dogmatic religious tier magical thinking and defending. both cant accept reality in a different way because its been such a fucking mind fuck

>enjoy wasting all of your youth advocating for a dead altcoin on a dead imageboard
>18pbtid
So you aren’t wasting your time? Lmao

>DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE fudddderzzzz are brown heckin E S L ——ACKKKKKKK

https://twitter.com/chainlink/status/1777777751937733070?s=46&t=pxB_5KMjs0qNm4ER3GIweA

Bahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah is this guy drunk or something?

Hey linkies —- you pay grownups to have indoor sleepover tent parties…hahahahahahahahahahaha


THE Cuckolds of crypto

>>58387325
The mistake you're making, assuming you're posting in good faith, is taking the history of crypto thus far (BTC dominance and shitcoin speculation) and extrapolating it far into the future. No crypto has made many advances in terms of real-world usage yet. We have yet to see how things stabilize, and we probably won't for another decade at least. LINK'S investment thesis has always been DLT connectivity, and they've been the only one actually solving the problem while maintaining the advantages that DLT promises in the first place. If you actually manage to sell the top this cycle, good job. But you'd better buy back in at the pullback (assuming there is one and we don't go full token scarcity, which seems unlikely as there's still several hundred million tokens to be released).

>>58387445
^^^Imagine taking financial advice from this mentalist

>>58387367
I do not get how you can be so dissatisfied with LINK'S performance, either price-wise or product-wise. You keep saying sergey burned us, or that the project is faltering, but all I see is continued development and ever-increasing institutional interest. Quit listening to randoms on twitter who have no knowledge of CLL's workings or plans and farm twitter (you)s within their echo chambers. Limit your exposure if you must, but I don't know why you would unless you think you can do better gambling. Focusing on the price is taking your eye off the ball. EVENTUALLY, fundamentals will be all that matters. Can you wait that long without succumbing to the fool's gold allure of gambling, is the question.

>>58382873
Ranjeet, the word you were looking for is “demoralized”. I will be deducting 10 rupees from your pay.

>>58385634
>I imagine them just laughing at you stinkards from the comfort of their yachts
Whale here, yup when I go for the summers on my yacht in monaco and have the finest of everything at my disposal: parties, women, nice weather everything i could ever dream of at my disposal, but I usually just sit back at my yacht and think about how I can fuck over link this time.

>>58387467
I've thought about this too. 20 years from now the crypto market is not going to look like this what so ever. It's probably not even going to be "crypto market" its going to be merged with Tradfi.

I'd say even as soon as 5-10 years shit like Coingecko/Coinmarketcap is going to look very different and the names seem archaic.
We'll probably see BONDS as the top 50 by marketcap. tokenised bonds, or debt, or other financial projects. The market for memes is going to fade fast, we just hit the final form of it now imo and the real projects are struggling due to it as i have went on at length about.

Chainlink will be a SURVIVOR along with eth when this all happens. I dont think its going to rocket to rank 3 or anything though. It's just going to hold steady as the market around it which doesnt fit with that eventually fades to irrelevance while Chainlink stays as it is on board with it.
At the same time, Chainlink will likely grow, but valuations will get more sensible. Why would an alts that does nothing be with 20 billion like ADA? that situation will fix itself. LINK will start to be valued according to Tradfi standards not crypto too.
That doesnt mean LINK shouldn't be worth 60 Billion market cap or something though.
LINK may gain huge adoption and token value in 20 years as that really all comes into society. Its a VERY different environment though and i don't think BTC valuations etc are going to mean the same.

or maybe they will if you look back and see LINK was once worth 1.7 BTC per 1000 tokens! It's $3000 now but you can only get 0.3 BTC with 1000 LINK tokens!

I think that last part is where we are going in that picture.
Does it materially mean much in the long term if you just invested at $5 or whatever? probably not. but on the way it means a fucking lot.
I think it is indeed going to take a long time(10-20 years) for the sensible valuations to re-value crypto and for LINK to be valued at 60B or whatever even under them - but it will happen.

>>58383499
A ROSE AND LINK baggie? Fucking kek

>>58387519
But dude, this hypothetical guy in my imagination made millions on shiba, so therefore link bad investment even if you bought it for 15 cents

>>58387556
Nobody made millions on Shiba or Doge or any meme coin who wasn't an insider.
Anyone who DID bagheld to 0.

That is not the point of this thread.

>>58387601
This thread glows.

>>58387158
>THAT part is sergeys failure and choices
He’s a billionaire from selling tokens created out of thin air to retards. How is that a failure?

95% of his business’s revenue is literally selling link tokens

>>58387549
>maybe they will if you look back and see LINK was once worth 1.7 BTC per 1000 tokens! It's $3000 now but you can only get 0.3 BTC with 1000 LINK tokens!
I have a BTC just in case I'm wrong, but I've never been able to understand why anyone thinks it will be around in 20 years. And the only reason I have that BTC is because I held LINK.

>>58387648
>if I say something often enough, it makes it true!
You're a gay nigger

>>58387724
>I've never been able to understand why anyone thinks it will be around in 20 years
The decentralized network is what provides value to the token.

You actually need to put in the work and mine in order to obtain some bitcoin, unlike chainlink where a centralized party just dumps 10% of the supply to make himself richer.

>>58382833
Linkies are a riot

>>58387741
He may be a gay nigger but it’s the truth, most of chainlink’s funds comes from selling chainlink tokens. This is also true of XRP.

What’s more, if it weren’t for the fact that crypto trackers like coinmarketcap calculate market cap as tokens in circulation times price, chainlink would be somewhere in position 30 if Sergey wasn’t dumping as many tokens as he is

Sergey is smart, I’ll give you that. But holders are not.

Master vs slave mentality, I guess.

It hasn't even begun yet. Influencers in the space still have not realized things we realized 5+ years ago.

>>58387325
I can’t believe you wrote all that just for me to not sell.

>>58387877
1 link token = 1 can of coke

You guys are deranged only by relative performance. There is literally nothing stopping you from throwing 500 usd into apu or some bullshit as they spout up and play hot potato. THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING YOU. Why do you act like you can't do it? Go take out 15 percent of your link bag and throw it at the wall and see what sticks.

Crypto pre 2017 was a few nerds and libertarians... Businesses, govts, law firms, banks... The wheels only started turning in 2018. Imagine a baby's level description of bitcoin...like let's get one of the junior lawyers to bust out a PowerPoint. No wonder there's no regulatory clarity yet.

The constant fudding about token unlocks like it wasn't written day one in 2017. I don't get it? Actually if I'm wrong tell me but it seems the amounts allocated are being sold as they said they would be.

There's enough to pick on that's legitimate Adlyns terrible marketing. Linkpool fiasco. Current faggots like running man Chris. Fernando's disaster. Felton and gosner.

When you see 50 job openings you won't see the fruits of that until a year or two later. It seems things are really coming together. We've got a front end for ccip. Oracles working perfectly since mainnet. Ccip seems to be working correctly as the other services too. I mean you take for granted that they actually pulled it off and got the oracles working perfectly.

I'm unhappy with the radio silence with staking and build rewards. I want to know if we will hit v1.0 or be stuck in v0.3. I'm waiting for the project update from kemal. Seeing a lot of dev activity news that once again won't move the needle until a year down the track when a mass of devs get up to speed with building products and integrating.

I'm begging for high quality real fud at this point. I'm sick of reading cuckolds and whatever. Fud the fucking thing properly because I'm earning 4 percent in tokens alone and if we hit 50 bucks again it'll be enough to retire on rewards alone.

>>58387947
>One shitcoin (apu) has relatively good performance
>suddenly all these “link holders” swapped into the one shitcoin that happened to do well and they are urging you to sell your Link and swing into a shitcoin.

Yea sure this feels organic

>>58387947
The reality is that all of what you wrote is bullish enough that it should not be performing the way it is. That is the problem.
This problem is cause by the brown invasion transforming alt coin market into only a casino now, so legit projects dont really grow as much, and compounded by Sergeys handling of the token price in a way that benefits only his own direct goals and choices where things move.

>>58387947
>because I'm earning 4 percent in tokens alone and if we hit 50 bucks again it'll be enough to retire on rewards alone.
this bit right here is what drives them up the fucking wall kek

the fact that they cannot, ever, aspire to such a comfy position
i mean they themselves confessed to buying paltry stacks of 100-200 LINK at the height of the 2021 mania, so around $40 each. THAT is their ENTIRE stack, assuming they still have it

then, NONE of them managed to secure a staking spot either in v0.1 or v0.2, because they are high time preference subhumans

meanwhile LINKchads bought massive stacks at cents, and staked maybe HALF of it (which still makes for 2 or 3 FULL wallets of 15k link each).

15k x 4.32% = 648 LINK per year
- at $50 that makes $32,400 per year, or nearly 3k per month, just from staking
- at $100 that makes a median US salary

but... get this:

YOU WILL NEVER STAKE, EVER
FUDDIES
THE POOL HAS CLOSED IN FRONT OF YOU
THAT LITTLE PIPE DREAM YOU HAD? ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
LMAOOO

>>58387947
Basically this. Also its pretty obvious this downturn is just whales fleecing retards with their casino gains while anticipating ccip casino by end of the year, the timing of the dump was no coincidence. The real question is whether link only gets ccip casino gains in late 24/25 or whether rwa stuff begins this cycle, if the former a sell has to be timed in 25 if you don’t want to feel like shit for a couple more years, if the latter everyone with more than a few thousand staked has already made it.

>>58382833
My wife wants her 5000 Chainlink and I don’t even give a shit

>>58387999
Every Alt coin dumped as hard as link did yesterday. Stop with this bullshit attitude like LINK moves differently or special.

>>58388036
No, whales dump BTC, billions of dollars all to manipulate link just to keep it down because otherwise it would be 2000k eoy 2020 don’t you know?! Even though almost every other coin also follows BTC?!
It’s all a giant conspiracy!
Good thing there are all those BUILD tokens, like...whatever ones were sent out I am sure there are dozens, minimum.

>>58384386
>I fell hard for the "I'm in it for the tech" meme that's exactly why I bought Crypto to begin with. Nobody cares about the tech, and realistically nobody ever did.

How about I interest you in learning smart contract development?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umepbfKp5rI

If you actually used it yourself, you'd see why this industry didn't die off 8+ years ago and has only grown since.

>>58386073
Unstaking to sell actually... Probably not this month though. I'll initiate the unstaking process again in June. I need linkies to pay for my trip to Hong Kong.

>>58388130
Thanks for quality posting anon, I will check out this video to hopefully become wiser about this space

>>58388036
You are a retard I said nothing about yesterdays dump affecting link only. You’re also hyper emotional about this market.

>>58388213
you are selling your staking rewards, right?

>>58387519
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude dont believe your own eyes

>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude come join me at the next tent party
THE Cuckolds of crypto

>>58387947
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude it’s totally normal to have your girlfriend get fucked in front of you at the next tent party

>>58387980
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude everyone is jealous of my sub bank account interest

>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude itsthhhhh le STHHHHECRETTTTT

>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude I only need 6x and THEN people will realize im a HECKIN genius

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You would need BTC at $200k just to drag Link’s pathetic limp coin to $35

Want to know why….well because you are….

THE Cuckolds of crypto

>>58387246
Go check out the Citi report again and look at who helped write the paper. Sandy Kaul who is now head of digital assets at Franklin Templeton. Institutions are 100% coming into the crypto space. You have to think of the big picture here. Sandy Kaul in an interview with Sergey said that as a digital asset manager she has portfolios under her ownership that are staked in protocols (on the blockchain) earning interest in her investments. Think long term here on the LINK timeline. The staking pool is going to be filled by institutions, forever. I am never unstaking

>>58388580
>>58388597
>>58388616
Working a late shift today Adem?

>>58388223

I think there are different tiers of investors in this space, especially for Chainlink holding. The base is just being an investor and seeing the potential for a project to make money and investing accordingly. That is pretty much all of us at the start. But if you sit down and mess around with the tech and learn the development skills, you'll think to yourself "Holy shit this is revolutionary and I can see how this all can be integrated into our world!". This is the next tier you ascend your understanding to. But when you interact with the Web3 community at large, where you physically go to a conference, like Chainlink's conference, that's when you come to realize "holy shit this is a TINY industry". That's when you realize that all of your ideas you had in mind, they're not going to come to reality unless >>58388223, yes YOU, build it.

OP >>58382833 here is in the bottom tier of the investors I speak of hence why he has gotten so demoralized by the price that he's capitulating. The other link holders demanding updates on the BUILD rewards and being generally disillusioned by the price also fall into this category. They're eagerly waiting for their big break, but it's solely dependent on CLL coming through for them. In any tier, we're all dependent on CLL but when you start contributing, there's a level of control you feel you have over your own fate as you're actively making progress to the overall goal of adoption.

>>58388505
Some from staking rewards and some from pulled from the pool outright. Some exchanges know some of my wallets and I didn't KYC all my exchange accounts. So some wallets I don't have a comfortable off fiat-ramp line for. But ultimately, I'm only selling a portion of what I made collectively from staking.

I invite other stakers to sell their linkies to pay for a trip to the next Smartcon. Yes, it's virtual, but it's a world of difference meeting people at the forefront of the development space. CLL is paying for it anyway.

>>58382833
People are waking up and realising that the bitcoin maxis were right.

>>58389107
how do u do smart contract on bitcoin at scale?

thanks for this post. gave me the courage to do what ive been knowing ive should do for a while. I just dumped my 15k link and will be slowly shifting my position into apu. good luck anons.

Just popped in to remind the fudsisters that I have 60k Link staked and have no intention of selling a single one.

i sold iT all at 20 dollars//

and am gonna buy back it.


HAHAHA i love /biz/

its threads like this that all you newfags need to pay attention to.

when threads like this come up buy.

when people are euephoric and bullish.like talking about how this is going to change the world start selling, and sell all when you see people like choosling lambo colors and talk about yacht parties sell//


just bought 2,000 link...

i really really really feel fortunate enough to have been able to live off of trading link since 2017...

thank you god.

all it takes is visiting /biz/ every day since 2017 yea even during the beAR...

this is the emotion i was looking for. and yall filled it.

>>58389045

>its your fault. you have to do the work for the investment returns.
Jesus. a fucking cult.
I understand people should be working on themselves and improving, and it isn't like i havent.
Also understand it may be positive to get involved if your circumstances make that lucrative.

however, that isn't how investing fucking works. You invest your money and get a return. you are in a cult mindset if you now make up rules about people being good if they get involved directly, and bad if they expect a return without doing work for free without being on the payroll.

Fucking lunatic.

Not gonna lie, former LINK supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching LINK crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get our money.

>>58389276

>>58384967
>What's Sergey done wrong from a management perspective?
he's not managing, that's the point. he's just letting everyone do whatever they like. hr is hiring more people, marketing is doing whatever, the chief scientist is working on his book. people have the time do to "day in the life" tiktoks, that should have been a hint