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Shorting proprietary tech edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Risk management:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201104182916/https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://exhentai.org/tag/character:Richard+Stallman
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Options (do not trade these just because you read all these links)
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>Links for Sideline Samuels
https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
https://bad-dragon.com/shop

>Calendars
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
https://www.investing.com/dividends-calendar/
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar/
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Misc:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://www.finra.org/finra-data/fixed-income

>Previous
>>58309679

>> No.58314930
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58314930

Inflation is out of control

prices are jumping 10-20% for everyday items. its unbelievable I'm losing my mind over this shit.

I hope they raise interest rates to 10%, I cant take this shit anymore, everything is becoming absurdly expensive, I cant afford a car, an apartment, a house, clothes, food, nothing, FUCKING NOTHING!

HOLYSHIT THE DOLLAR IS WORTHLESS AND JOBS DONT PAY ANYTHING

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I would just like to interject for a moment

>> No.58314936

DONT SHORT JUST BUY GOLD

>> No.58314941
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>>58314930
Fuck it, invest in physical guns and ammo.

>> No.58314945

Any good strategy in which one would not reinvest dividends? I'm thinking about starting a dividend portfolio and using the dividends to buy SPY

>> No.58314954

>>58314945
oh yeah? and what will you do with SPY's divvies?

>> No.58314959
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58314959

adding this to the new thread...

what website does /smg/ use when buying real estate im looking to buy a condo or something for the first time ?

also any other first time home buyer tips are welcome

>>58314920
thanks

>> No.58314963

>>58314920
thanks

>> No.58314969
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58314969

>berry my dick in long spy calls
>crowned king arthur

>> No.58314970

chart looks like a heart monitor on life support

>> No.58314972

>>58314945
Buy NVDA with dividends

>> No.58314993

>>58314945
Buy 0 day ATM calls with the divvies
When those make money buy 6 month SOFR call spreads with the profits when those make money use the proceeds to long the Hungarian Forint against the Turkish Lira

>> No.58315003
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>>58314930
>I hope they raise interest rates to 10%, I cant take this shit anymore
Oh boy... Careful what you wish for.

>> No.58315021
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58315021

AAHHHHHHH WHATS HAPPENING!!!!

>> No.58315038
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58315038

test

>> No.58315055

>>58314954
>SPY's divvies
Those I would reinvest
>>58314972
I'm not buying your bags
>>58314993
Sounds risky

>> No.58315057
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58315057

today a russian man told me the next wave of kgb agents is getting flown in from moscow this month

>> No.58315060
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>>58315038
>test
This anon was banned

>> No.58315064

>>58315003
what´s the worst that could happen? arent most of our economic woes a large segment of the economy being fake and gay on account of (((quantitative easing)))?

>> No.58315072

>>58315038
ain't working

>> No.58315077
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58315077

Will the eclipse heem markets on Monday?

>> No.58315078
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58315078

What's for movie night?!
/smg/ movie night is just like the stock market
You knowever knowea thas wht the line sig ggoing ti tdo

>> No.58315084

>>58315077
No nothing ever happens.
I went to the library to get eclipse glasses and they ran out. Probably all given to foreigners who don't speak english. I hate California.

>> No.58315093

>>58315078
Schindlers list

>> No.58315095
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58315095

Got a MCD's double cheeseburger meal earlier today. They seem to be smaller now. I dunno maybe I was just imagining it. First time I've got one in maybe 6 months. Got a package of those little debbie cupcakes. You know the ones with the squiggle line of white frosting down the middle. Those seem to be smaller now to. I couldn't help but laugh when I saw it. I quit buying bags of chips. The cost plus the fact half the damn bag is air now it's like WTF is this shat.

>> No.58315097

>>58315084
What do they do in California? If I hopped the border and pretented I could only speak mexican would they give me a job?

>> No.58315099

Using the portfolio backtesting data with 10k each of the 10 dogs of the dow returned 4k in annual dividends while the worst year was only down -3.81% as opposed to the -18% with 100% SPY

>> No.58315111

>>58315064
>what´s the worst that could happen?
Total banking collapse. You end up with high unemployment and a deflationary spiral. And also there's no savings because the banks won't open.

>> No.58315116

>>58315084
I had to buy a pair of glasses for $2 at the grocery store

>> No.58315127
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>>58315099
>backtesting
>he doesn't front test

>> No.58315144

>>58315095
>Got a MCD's double cheeseburger meal earlier today. They seem to be smaller now
Bullish for MCD

>> No.58315151
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58315151

The most bullish thing that could possibly happen right now is Israel getting wiped off the map. This is investment advice.

>> No.58315163

>>58315127
For me its the front butt

>> No.58315170

>>58315111
what if they just kept it at 5% instead?

>> No.58315177

>>58314930
Yo dude are you okay? Did you just wake up from a 2 year coma?

>> No.58315192
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>>58315170
Yellen used her vile Jew magic to execute her emergency bond liquidity program as soon as the 10 year hit 5%. Anything higher than 5% eventually leads to a sovereign debt crisis.

>> No.58315201
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58315201

Can they at least give us some kind of 24/7 ticker that just crabs on weekends and can be traded from our brokerage accounts?
>inb4 just trade crypto bro
NO

>> No.58315222

WE ARE WATCHING DUNE 2 TONIGHT YES?!?!

>> No.58315228
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Anyone else stacking tech AND Honda stock?

>> No.58315253
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>>58315093
B-but that's not dune 2...

>> No.58315255

>>58315228
cant go wrong with honda. yup now thats a stock i can trust

>> No.58315273

>>58315097
No but they would give you 4k USD

>> No.58315283

>>58315097
If they find out you're American [they will] you'll be charged with the felony of Failure to Report like the guys from Channel 5 News

>> No.58315287
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>>58315255
Oh I forgot my stupid trip.

I REALLY like Japanese auto makers and Nvidia and Microsoft

>> No.58315302
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>>58315283
qrd?

>> No.58315308

>Female basketball player on a QQQ commercial
Grim

>> No.58315329

>>58315302

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ponylQTj_gg

They hire Mexican coyotes to take them to a border crossing and get caught once they cross, pretty fascinating series they've been doing about the border

>> No.58315354

>>58315273
that´s something

>>58315283
Im not, and I would actually like to go there (not necessarly california) to do some real work for a few years before coming back, not just scratch my balls and shit

>> No.58315393

>>58314930
it really is insane. interest rates are going to get hiked again just watch. inflation is going up and super sticky so there is no way around it. bond yields are going to skyrocket and all the TLT baggies will rope.

>> No.58315408

>>58315095
>The cost plus the fact half the damn bag is air now it's like WTF is this shat.
Also the ingredients or worse, or they're skimping on them sometimes. They've done tests. Processed foods don't taste as good as they used to.

>> No.58315463
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58315463

9 minutes to movie night! Tonite's feature is Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)!

>> No.58315469

>>58315393
explain to a brainlet how increasing rates fights inflations?

>> No.58315473
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58315473

Vroom vroom vrrrroooommmm

>> No.58315484

>>58315308
ah so the top signals have begun. i will sell everything on open and go 100% cash

>> No.58315494

>>58315095
I don't eat out very often but there is a noticeable decline in both quantity and quality of food across the board since the rona that shows no signs of slowing down. I hope you didn't think the new normal went away just because you made a couple pithy memes about it.

Although really the quality of everything just keeps getting worse (don't get me started on how shit most furniture is these days where trashy ikea particleboard is unironically one of the better options) so singling out food may be unfair.

>> No.58315499

>>58315308
>QQQ commercial
huh?

>> No.58315501

>>58315463
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRMqKE3KID8
For me it's juggment day

>> No.58315529

>>58315463
whats the link??

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58315546

>>58315529

>> No.58315550
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>>58315546

>> No.58315565

>>58314930
>able to lock in 30 year bonds with 10% returns
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BABY

>> No.58315590

>>58315308
They're pulling out the final stops to get the last retards to buy in and push line up a little bit higher so you can have that much more exit liquidity. You should be more appreciative, anon

>> No.58315608

>>58315393
>inflation is going up
You're retarded
>It's super sticky
You're super retarded

I don't know where you faggots get this shit, it's ridiculous. Inflation has been trending steadily towards 2% for over a year but for some reason you ignore the obvious decline from double digit inflation and just want to cherry pick anything you can twist into some doomer nonsense. This new bear narrative that includes rate hikes is somehow one of the most retarded yet.

>> No.58315682

>>58315608
You just in the tank for Democrats or what, sheesh

>> No.58315728

>>58315682
Yeah see there's this really strange attitude people have where they automatically assign you to some political affiliation if you point out that inflation is not, in fact, as bad as bears on the internet want it to be. I'm just going off of what the person in charge of the Fed has been saying for months - not because I think he's 100% right or honest, but because that's what will actually determine policy.

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58315754

Why the fuck did jannies delete my post?

>> No.58315769
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58315769

>>58315608
Keep ignoring the data

>> No.58315789
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>>58315608

>> No.58315807
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58315807

>>58315608
>nearly all 6 month moving averages of the PCE indices are trending back up

>> No.58315811

>>58315789
>Chinks are ripping people off again
Yawn
>>58315769
Seriously how do you look at this and come away bearish you absolute mouth breather. Were you also doom posting about inflation in 2016?

>> No.58315827

>>58315807
>Ignore that the monthly is on a huge downtrend
>Ignore that the 6 month is within half a percent of historical averages and the Fed's stated goal
ok

>> No.58315828

>>58315811
Not doomposting about anything. just showing you that inflation isnt going anywhere anytime soon

>> No.58315855

>>58315811
>>>58315789 (You)
>>Chinks are ripping people off again
Has nothing to with China. Mostly its Houthis fucking things over in the Red Sea.

>> No.58315881
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>actually closing the market for 2 full days every single week

>> No.58315953
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Smug

>> No.58315988

beautiful morning to honour our great leader

sieg heil! sieg heil! sieg heil!

>> No.58315987

>>58314910
Why are you guys this gay.

>> No.58316002

>>58315987
We can afford it, anon. What's your excuse?

>> No.58316066

>>58315987
TAKE A HIKE, BOZO

>> No.58316070

>>58315988
Invest in true community.

>> No.58316103

will AI mania last for the rest of this decade? I feel like something will come out of this LLM/machine learning revolution that we are not seeing.

>> No.58316133

>>58316103
>siri hack my apple goggles so I can watch schoolgirl squirt files 5

>> No.58316152

>>58316103
Generative AI is 100% milquetoast shit. It's a bubble that will pop unless something really revolutionary drops within the next year
>it ain't happening and the crash will be biblical

>> No.58316158

>imagine being german nobility when hitler lost the war, having to destroy all your silverware, glassware with swastikas on them
>>58316103
it will be the last nail in the western civilization coffin. society can't adapt at the same rate technology advances.
total crash, chaos, anarchy.

>> No.58316164

>>58315855
>>Chinks are ripping people off again
Chinks run the world now. The only ships allowed through the red sea. It will either be ww3 that cements China status as THE global super power, or people just realize usa is fading day by day.

>> No.58316180

it will be like the invention of gunpowder or oil, completely rewrite the entire world map in a few fast decades, one generation or two and there's terminator cyborgs cutting every tree in the forest

>> No.58316186

>>58316152
machine learning can be applied to nearly all industries. optimization, reducing labour cost, speeding up development and research.
>>58316158
you think things will advance too quickly? what changes, where does it lead?

i think its important we answer these questions because we may be able to profit from it before it materializes, nvda wont be top dog forever.

>> No.58316200

You ARE investing in your spiritual health by going to church tomorrow, right anon?

>> No.58316203

AI will finally produce an attractive linux distro people will want to use
A true MSFT killer

>> No.58316231

I'm at the bar and it's fucking packed

>> No.58316264

>>58316231
Yet, here you are blogposting.
"tfw no pussy"??

>> No.58316283
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>>58316200
i went to church today (it is sunday in my time zone)

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>>58316200
>>58316283
im so black-pilled its hard to believe in anything at this point

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>>58316200
No, the church and I have a history. I don't go for the benefit of my spiritual health.

>> No.58316376

>>58316283
You went? So you live in russia, cause even for greece (8 am now) it is too early. You posted an orthodox frog... Or you are a christian in the middle east. OR you live in australia.

>> No.58316381

>>58315469
this is a sort of complicated idea in economics but it can be explained simply: inflation is a symptom and result of increasing economic activity. essentially, people are spending money right now because it will be worth less in the future. increasing the rates increases the cost of banks borrowing money which increases the rates of you borrowing money and makes it more attractive for banks to ask you for your money at a lower rate. you have more of an incentive to leave your money in a high yield savings account for that rate they offer. this slows down economic activity which in theory slows inflation. if that works, let me know, otherwise i'm happy to explain further
source: work at an investment bank

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>>58315095
It’s called shrinkflation.

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You should be either 100% in one single position or 100% cash. Anything else dissipates your energy and leads to lukewarm results.

>> No.58316425

>>58316397
YO WTF@picrel

>> No.58316448

Where should I trade as a beginner? I heard Robin hood is the best for beginners but what they did during the whole gamestop thing puts me off of them. Is fidelity okay?

>> No.58316463

>>58316448
TDAmeritrade's thinkorswim platform is best for beginners

>> No.58316543

>>58316463
The descriptions I found don't make it sound like that at all

>> No.58316571
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>>58316381
>inflation is a symptom and result of increasing economic activity
>source: work at an investment bank
Ah yes, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, and Argentina sure were real hotbeds of economic activity. The absolute state.

>> No.58316584

>>58316543
you could go with TDA and then link it to tradingview if you find that easier. or just papertrade on tradingview until you feel comfortable

>> No.58316596

>>58316571
if you listen to any argentinian they will be like "actually, 100 years ago argetina was richer than america"

>> No.58316606

>>58315469
isnt it because it is used to burn all the excess money they have been printing?

>> No.58316610

>>58314930
If they raise interest rates to 10% my portfolio is becoming 100% SGOV.

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>>58316596
>100 years ago
Nigga I mean like last year.

>> No.58316689

>>58314910
Bobo where did you go

>> No.58316700

>>58316584
I already have a Schwab account because of their s&p500 etf. Is there a benefit to creating a td ameritrade account instead of just using the Schwab account since Schwab owns them?

>> No.58316725

>>58314959
I browse redfin because they have a nice website, but you gotta check zillow as well cuz some places don't list on redfin. I got my place with a traditional agent. It's nice to have someone hold your hand through the process if it's your first time. Just get a good word of mouth recommendation for your agent. Ask someone you trust who had a positive experience.

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>>58316360
wagmi fren

>> No.58316960

hello frens,
Does the IRS know and have a record of every single bank account you have opened?
I know that banks are supposed to report certain information with interest bearing accounts so you can pay tax, and they would also report for AML reasons

but what if you have some regular non-interest bearing chequing account, would the IRS even be aware of it

>> No.58316980

>>58316960
yes
but they may not specifically bother to investigate it

>> No.58317018

>>58316700
i dont know, personally i use ibkr because im a dirty foreigner. dont know if Schwab even has a trading platform. check with tradingview they support many broker you can link with the platform. I think TradingView is prob the easiest to work with

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>>58316960
My dude, we live in a police state. What do you think?

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>>58316960
You vill pay ze taxes, not billion dollar companies though.

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I mean, 5 billion is really a lot. Companies should be spared more though. Let wagies pay all the taxes.

>> No.58317140

>>58317099
>>58317101
based fuck wagies

>> No.58317153

>>58316200
How does one go to church? Can you just show up? How do you find a good church to go to?

>> No.58317200

>>58317153
>
If it is a church yes, if it some shit churchsocialclub where everybody knows each other and they fake being zealous and good people and the moment you leave talk behind your back, no.

>> No.58317203

>>58317153
>>58317200
In other words, the smaller the village/city, the higher the chance people will notice you and ask themselves who you are, what you want there etc.

>> No.58317231

>>58316200
Last time I went for a funeral the priest was preaching about jews.

>> No.58317271

>>58317231
yeah don't go there

>> No.58317300

>>58317203
I think any church if people don't know you, they'll ask you who you are and what brings you to that church idk. I'd like to go regularly butit feels weird as a single guy with no connections to any particular place.

>> No.58317364

>>58317300
Not if it is large enough and thus pretty much anonymous, which is why I said, the larger the city, the less the risk people talk to you or behind you

>> No.58317472

>>58317153
you just walk in there with your cowboy boots on, stop in the middle of the room with the swinging doors slowly coming to a stop behind you as you look around at all the bandits and beggars

>> No.58317489

Rocket Lab sent the second most satellites into space after SpaceX in 2023. Working on Neutron to compete with Falcon 9 and will be reusable. Already has contracts with NASA, DARPA and Space Force. Space systems already profitable for designing satellites and aims to be an End to End company where they can create satellites and launch them.

The company has the experience, contacts and confidence among the space community. All this for less than $2 billion marketcap. In comparison when SpaceX launched Falcon 9 and signed contracts they were valued at $20 billion. This is a 10 year hold but by then expect Space Revolution to be full steam ahead. You NASA and China aiming for bases on the moon, SpaceX targeting Humans on Mars, constellations around earth providing Internet and who knows what other untapped discoveries will be made. RKLB is the pick and shovel play during the golf rush, exactly like buying NVDA before AI really took off.

>> No.58317527

>>58314910
Why is there a stallman meme as the /smg/ OP pic

>> No.58317623

>>58315469
Sucks liquidity out of the market and moves it primarily to banks and treasuries.

>> No.58317668

>Kbb says car worth 3400
>people selling worse cars for twice that in my area
Gonna go out on a limb and say my car is probably worth more than what the dealer is willing to pay for it desu. Mostly because of inflation and replacing the engine, but still.

>> No.58317672

>>58317668
>my car is probably worth more than what the dealer is willing to pay for it
They buy it to make a profit

>> No.58317693

>>58317672
They buy it to jew me because they're run by kike-adjacent sandniggers.

>> No.58317699

>>58317668
lolsure they say lower. They try to pay you less than 50%, so they make +100%

>> No.58317717
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The fact that nowadays everyone, their mothers, their mothers' minority houseworkers and those minorities dogs are invested in the market in one way or another is honestly pretty demoralizing.
Investing is no longer something you can spend some of your time studying to gain a financial edge in life.
Investing used to be a sure-fire way to get ahead of the pack and build generational wealth, even if starting from humble beginnings.
Now that almost everyone is doing, it's just become the new baseline that might barely allow you to keep your head above water.
Now it's just another thing on top of the pile of things a modern individual HAS to do just to maintain an semblance of human dignity.

Then again, I have no idea what the "new" ways to get ahead in life are, or if they even exist anymore. So maybe I'm exactly where I'm meant to be - on the way to become human cattle once I inevitably fail to keep up with the changes.

>> No.58317739

>>58317717
go and start a business if you want to escape the rat race

>> No.58317758

>>58317717
whoring, crypto gambling, shilling & selling drugs are how the young bucks are making it today

>> No.58317870

>>58317693
Cost of convenience. You want to get more money for your car? Sell it p2p.

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>>58317717
If you want an edge on dumb normies just short them lmao like sell them calls or something. Or do what they don't do, like, buy Wheat.

>> No.58317889

>>58317758
I was trying to think of stuff, but everything fell into one of these categories.
I guess you could write a book. It has the same roi as everything else, 0%, but at least it would stroke your ego of being a (self) published author.

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>>58317739
>escape the rat race
>start a business
>just work harder for less money until you go out of business and have to go back to getting a real job bro

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>>58317717
Why don't ya'll just buy ETF and call it a day?
You some kind of alien prediciting shit and stuff?

>> No.58317946

>>58317926
post more

>> No.58317952

>>58316404
I have 100% in a stock or etf every month if it loses 2% if it makes 5% win I'm out no matter what
no bagholding in my world

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>>58317739
escape the rat race by working 12+ hours a day and relying on the competence of others
shiggy

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>>58317926
>Why don't ya'll just buy ETF
When retards who write "ya'll" tell you to "just buy ETF" you know what to do.

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>>58317926
ETFs typically contain Haram stocks.

>> No.58318032

THE WAR IN GAZA IS OVER
>THE WAR IN GAZA IS OVER
THE WAR IN GAZA IS OVER
>THE WAR IN GAZA IS OVER
SPY TO $530 TOMORROW

>> No.58318036

>>58317739
Don't something like 60% of all new businesses fail in the first few years? Leaving their owners in a much worse position than if they had done nothing?
I'm not deluded enough to think I have some kind of mental edge over all those people. I'm average.
Unless you can leverage nepotism in some way, it feels like a total crapshoot. Might as well go play blackjack in a casino.

>>58317758
So crime and degeneracy... I suppose that has always paid through history, true. At the cost of one's dignity and conscience though. Not really in the business of ruining the lives of others to get ahead, but I guess that's an option for some.

>>58317887
You're extremely unlikely to outperform the market with options unless you make it your life. Honestly even then.
Commodities are a decent point, I'll give you that. Though I must admit that immersing myself in global news to the level required to predict price movements is probably bad for anyone's physical and mental health.

>>58317926
Sure, that's what everyone does.
The world adjusts accordingly.
The 1-3 million you'll save by retirement will not be a lot of money. It might save you from being destitute, but nothing more.


The point is that Investing was once upon a time supposed to be the simple "good boy" way of building wealth. No need to break bad or step over the heads of other people. No need for extraordinary intelligence or luck. Just have slightly above average patience, don't take stupid risks, study and good things will happen.
And it feels like that has been taken away with no real equivalent alternative.

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>>58317926
>>58318036
>>58317717
how do you decide on what to invest?
thats like saying hurr durr i go into a casino because i can become rich.
You sound like a crypto fag.

>> No.58318085

>>58318036
>You're extremely unlikely to outperform the market with options
You're fairly likely to outperform the market if the market is gonna stay at best flat for the next few years and you're selling calls to clueless RobinHood retards.

>immersing myself in global news to the level required to predict price movements
This isn't a thing, with commodities you don't "predict price movements", you just buy the dip and hope it doesn't btfo you like the 2024 brapgas "dip". All the news in the world isn't gonna help you predict anything, it will only make you max bearish at the bottom and bullish at the very top.

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Just as a heads up. Tomorrow the eclipse is lining up with the return of the devil comet. Last time this happened was over 200 years ago and after it happened we had the worst earthquakes on US record. So bad the Mississippi River changed directions. I would recommend buying at least a couple SPY puts at open to cover your ass. With pic related happening alongside it, it may not matter anyway. God may be returning. The question is, if he looks at you portfolio, will he take you with him to the promised land?

>> No.58318108

>>58315095
>mc dick is 10+ dollaroos for a meal
>chips is 2 dollars for a bag
haven't eaten chips in probably a full year or so
I cook nowadays
>>58315494
Learn to make your own furniture. My gramps made furniture for a living. I'm going to follow in his steps.

>> No.58318114

>>58317717
Why do you feel the need to "get ahead" in life? Compensation? I just want money for safety. And for the fun of making it, i mean winning money, not "making it". You know, Casino.

>> No.58318122

>>58318107
>The question is, if he looks at you portfolio, will he take you with him to the promised land?
with my shit returns God is smiting me and laughing. He's laughing at me, anons. What the fuck do I do against God laughing at me. Do I buy more VOO?

>> No.58318127

>>58318036
>So crime and degeneracy...
>Implying the stock market is not exactly that too even on the basic level (unleveraged)

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>>58318122
Do not worry child, I'm sure you are smart enough to have a portfolio worthy of my blessing. I just have one question, you di hold NYCB shares...right?

>> No.58318141

>>58317489
They definitely have strong government contacts and a lot of engineers among the execs. I don't like the look of their CFO though: an MBA who jumped ship while his previous company was on a downslide. RKLB's cash flow for 2023 didn't look too impressive either, they didn't receive much investment by the look of it and as their net income is negative I wonder how they'll finance future growth. I have a very small bag atm but I want to see some improvements before I commit properly.

>> No.58318195

>>58318134
Have you seen a person with blue eyes and this eyeshape? I literally have eyes like those. And they are brown.

>> No.58318197

>>58317717
The more people buy into passive funds, the less efficient the market becomes. The less efficient the market, the more alpha is available for active investors. So you should welcome the additional capital, it makes it easier for you to win.

>> No.58318199

>>58318134
I-i wanted to short..

>> No.58318201
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>Say absolutely nothing related to crypto or anything that would endorse it in any way
>Some retarded trannyposting hillbilly nigger singles you out and randomly calls you a "crypto fag" among other incoherent babble.

Is this what it feels like to get harassed by the mentally ill homeless on the street?

>> No.58318205

>>58318201
fuck off cryptofag

>> No.58318209

>>58318201
im trans btw

>> No.58318220

fuck off cryptofags

>> No.58318229

>>58318197
If it's less efficient because of trade overcrowding, what does it imply as a strategy to profit from inefficiency? Like if the market pumps some garbage megacaps because they're a big part of SPY, how can you use this?

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>>58318199
Being a bobo is the work of the devil. Repent now sinner!

>> No.58318238

>>58318141
They did get $350 million convertible notes which will cover them for Neutron development and another acquisition. Everything hinges on the success of Neutron to propel the stock, nonetheless their Space System should be profitable in 2026.

>> No.58318260

>>58318107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxh2X6NjuhY

>> No.58318284

>>58318260
Are sesame seed futures the play now?

>> No.58318302

>>58318284
last time i checked the US is neither brazil nor myanmar.
but some turbo autist surely can find useful cicada-based crop damage

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>>58317489
>>58318141
>>58318238
Been accumulating RocketLab for a few months here, interesting to watch it drop so close to its all time low during what seems to be a record breaking quarter, guidance issued at $92-98 million for Q1 2024, set aside $5000 in cash to scoop some (hopefully still) cheapies on Monday.

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>>58314910
Brit anons, who should I open this year's ISA with?

>> No.58318433
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58318433

I focus on the present, concentrate on what I find
Accelerate the vision high beyond the curse of time
Bring light to my attention, the walls of vacuum fall
This force increases and tells me where to go

>> No.58318443

>>58318410
Trading212
No commission, FX charges are low or even profitable and 5.2% APY paid daily on cash

>> No.58318457

>>58318107
I’ve always found cicada swarms more fascinating than eclipses. Also those bugs look more menacing than they are. They are quite docile and will not hurt you.

>> No.58318467

>>58318457
A cicada typed this

>> No.58318479

>>58318237
b-but the bullrun is ending
y-you can't seriously suggest me to go all in on what is obviously a declining market, r-right?
>Those who will save their life shall lose it
>Those who will lose their life will save it
Huh, God's word even makes sense in the stock market. Monday I'll just buy more stocks then to repent...

>> No.58318489

>>58318433
This is 10% luck...

>> No.58318499

>>58318467
>bbzzz bzz bzzzz bz bz bzzzzz

>> No.58318504

>>58318433
>dubs
Fucking bullish
I'm not selling tomorrow and there's NOTHING you can do about it

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>>58318457
>t.

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>etf is le normie shit
>crypto is le zoomer shit
what to do to get reasonable returns?

>> No.58318533

cicada niggers we are so back

>> No.58318541

>>58318479
God is trying to tell you that a healthy portfolio of LLAP and ET is the way to go.

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>Every normie faggot and his brother constantly whining about how AI is going to steal their cushy job as a graphic designer churning out soulless bullshit
>/smg/ posters unironically saying to go short because of cicadas and earthquakes
Yeah I'm thinking the bullrun is on

>> No.58318567

Femboy natural gas.

>> No.58318572

>>58318511
Short VIX futures to harvest contango gains.
>b-but muh risk
scale your position accordingly

>> No.58318576

>>58318563
whenever they tell me that I reply thats further reason to invest in AI related stuff

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>>58316960
anything with digital usd is tracked and sent to irs. i dont even know how you think you can open a bank account with your ssn and somehow think the feds dont know about it.

>> No.58318580

>>58318563
Progress can't be stopped. Especially not for minimum wage bullshit

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>>58317717
>another is honestly pretty demoralizing.
you mean moralizing right? you need more liqduitiy in markets. the more traders the bigger the gains can be. or did you think stocks just up when people arent entering in the market? them entering is what caused your investments to go up.

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What the fuck are these ads /smg/? Do people really buy shitcoins off 4channel? ngl they're kinda funny but fuck me if it ain't weird.

>>58318511
Going long on a single stock that you know is going to disrupt the market. Like going long on NVDA when it dumped or when DALLE2 came out. My portfolio is 100% just a single chink shitstock on this hypothesis. I hope you realize that your EV is lower without diversification thoughever, I'm just chasing high returns at high risk

Also, I recently invested into Greek silver coins and I hope they'll go up as well. Probably won't

>> No.58318609

>>58318587
I will be funny if there are so many minorities and women and people with other mental disabilities in the market that the efficient market hypothesis dies lol

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>>58315077
As the shadow crosses the forest the birds will go quiet.

>>58315789
That chart is old, but point taken. Shipping rates are coming down off the January high.

>>58318260
Is that baggie?

>> No.58318618

>>58318576
>>58318580
I think it's fantastic seeing all these shitty artists getting replaced by AI. They spent years and huge sums of money going to art schools just to produce some of the most derivative bullshit imaginable, only to have their derivative bullshit end up as training material for their replacement. Lol.

>> No.58318622

>>58318609
>n the market that the efficient market hypothesis dies lol
efficient markets have always relied on idiots and suckers so i dont see why id suddenly break down now.

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Oil bros??

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>>58318618
God have you see the fucking butthurt in the porn threads? Holy shit it's hilarious
>"No stop! This is unfair! I'll have to actually contribute to society!"

>> No.58318639

>>58318628
why dont you repost in english so i can respond.

>> No.58318643

>>58318632
Lmao no, where are those threads? I love the arguments against deepfake porn, as if it's not just an updated version of cutting out someone's face and sticking it on a playboy. All the people complaining about AI just happen to be some of the most NPC motherfuckers, what a coincidence.

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>>58318628
Once again jews are up to their shenanigans....

>> No.58318654

>>58318643
its died down recently because everyone told them top rope for a few months but it was all over /d/ and /h/

>> No.58318658

>>58318639
>>58318646
Turns out to be a nothingburger
Mexico’s state-controlled oil company said a fire at one of its Akal-B oil platforms in the Campeche Bank left nine people injured Saturday afternoon.

Petroleos Mexicanos, also called Pemex, said two of the injured were its employees while the rest were from other companies. None had serious injuries and the fire was controlled in under 20 minutes, it said in a statement.

>> No.58318659

>>58318654
Ah yes, the side of 4chan I've never even remotely wanted to visit

>> No.58318662

>>58318567
Ah hell nah nigga
>>58318579
That corn fed blonde girl from nikke makes me feral

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>>58318643
>AI just happen to be some of the most NPC motherfuckers, what a coincidence.
still all over twatter these days. bad artists reeing about no one wants to hire them and pay them $500 for some trashy logo design.
>>58318662
>corn fed
pic.

>> No.58318695

>>58318658
Well that's great news at least we know they'll be plenty of oil flowing around that biden WON'T use to refill the SPR.

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Is a Chinese recovery inevitable? YINN is down 80% on the 2 year, why shouldn’t i go long?

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>need to replace laptop key
>go to key website
>order key which is specifically supposed to be for my laptop (same model)
>get key and it's fucking wrong even though it was the only key for my laptop model there
>check their website, installation video starts playing
>brown hands
I don't know what I expected I guess. I'm so tired of everything being jeeted to hell.

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>>58318511
Monthly long synthetic future plus a short OTM call to offset the debit of the spread (no breakeven). Use your underlying shares as collateral and 2x or 3x the position with the synthetic future.

>> No.58318737

>>58318701
>Is a Chinese recovery inevitable
no communism has a 100% failure rate.

>> No.58318739

>>58318727
god I hate women

>> No.58318746

>>58318716
Don't forget to leave a 5 star review

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>>58318739
We all do anon

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58318755

Do I just buy TQQQ? Have $50k in cash and debating if I should add to every position except bitfarms that I'm selling or just buy MSFT balls deep

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>>58318749
>I visited Japan
>it wasn't everything it was hyped up to be
>it was better
you can never undo that redpill
be very careful about whether or not you wish to see that truth

>> No.58318779

>>58318618
for me, its making the younger half of my history teachers unemployed, a bunch of literal commies. when I finnaly fucking graduate I might make it my speech that they are all a bunch of retards and that social sciences arent real sciences, mostly because of them.

>> No.58318785

>>58318761
Give it time, Japan will be ruined eventually too by 3rd worlders.

>> No.58318789

>>58318785
Luckily for them they still have a deep rooted hatred simmering beneath their calm surface. They can undo it unlike 39% America

>> No.58318795

burgher dudes, what are the most fucked up jobs but that make you good money in the US that you would be able to invest and live a comfy life back home after a few years. should I move to Texas and work on an oil rig?

>> No.58318801

>>58318795
underwater welding if delta p doesn't fucking kill you

>> No.58318806

>>58318801
>delta p
DUN

>> No.58318818

>>58318801
wouldnt I require some training or qualifications first?

>> No.58318819

shut up

>> No.58318872

we are far ahead of the curve in /smg/

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>finally found one of those girls who said "swipe left if you use android"
this wasn't supposed to be real
that was supposed to be a joke

>> No.58318886

>>58318877
>he doesn't have a used iphone 6 just for that reason with a different number etc just for those retards

>> No.58318889

>>58318795
CDL, tanker endorsement, hazmat, north dakota

>> No.58318901

>>58318877
memes are memes because they tap into the ground truth of the akashic records and are able to proliferate due to people just knowing them to be true without any citation needed

>> No.58318909

>imagine the vivid sensation of long blond hair between your fingers as you use it as a grip enhancer when slamming a prepubescent little girl's head on the pavement as you savagely rape her to death
this is what they took from you, top signal?

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>>58318755
>Do I just buy TQQQ?
You should probably use a 200 MA strategy with that or SOXL. As for TQQQ itself, look at the CAGR compared to the underlying. If I remember correctly you're taking on 3x the risk for 2x the CAGR. While QLD does 2x the risk for 1.5x the CAGR. Better risk adjusted results. The 200 MA paper backtests to 1928 and showed that UPRO (3x) only outperform SSO (2x) by 1.5% or so with a buy and hold strategy. Not to mention max drawdowns. And then we have optimal leverage (from a different study) where SPY can take 3x, with QQQ at 2x.

>> No.58318968

>>58318932
That makes sense, so I guess I have to decide between buying QLD - SSO or just add to my existing positions

>> No.58319003 [DELETED] 

but dxyz or stay poor forever

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58319007

>>58318968
I would just suggest more research first. Although I'd personally go with 2x over 3x LETFs. The studies I mention were called "leverage for the long run" and "the long term behavior of leveraged ETFs." As for leverage in general, you should also look into deep ITM LEAPS (on SPY and QQQ). And long synthetic futures if you have full options approval. The breakeven is everything. For example, if SPY has to go up 8% each year to breakeven then the leverage isn't worth it, while at 2% it probably is.

>> No.58319021

>>58319007
how much money do I need to have to get a girl like that

>> No.58319023

buy* dxyz monday or stay poor forever. not spamming, it has 34% stake in SpaceX

>> No.58319029

>>58319007
Had a girl like her, with those teeth. As a girl you can pass with that. As a man not so much. Anyways, she did her teeth later. Changed her jaw etc, looks worse afterwards but we stopped fuckin right before she got her braces (damn :( )

>> No.58319030

>>58319023
>550% increase since ipo
looks like the perfect opportunity to get rugged

>> No.58319111

Realistically, what would happen to the IRS if the main bulding got demolished with everyone who works there inside it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTAtg7mvbs4

>> No.58319126

>>58319111
There is always another IRS

>> No.58319135

>>58318795
Rabbi, but you have to do unspeakable evil

>> No.58319144

>>58319126
>>58319135
We have to make being a tax collector a sin again. That would get me going to church every sunday.

>> No.58319230
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58319230

>oh lamour
>broke my ass
>now I'm aching for you
>mon amour
>what's a boy in love suppose to do

>oh love of my ass
>it's up to your now
>you tore me apart
>i hurt inside out
>oh lamour
>busted my ass
>now i'm aching for you

>> No.58319281
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58319281

how will the eclipse affect the stock market tomorrow?

>> No.58319290

>>58319281
Yes

>> No.58319332

you need to be comfortable with extreme fear

>> No.58319366

>>58315329
lol retards, the coyotes just jumped back in the river, they should have done the same. don't know what they expected although it is cool they showed how easy it can be to cross

>> No.58319404

All my money are in tech stocks. What industries are good outside of tech? Non tech ETFs do terribly. Automobiles. Healthcare. Energy. Transportation. Minerals. All bad Where should I be storing my money outside of tech?

>> No.58319435

>>58319404
Financials are up 30% over the past year.

>> No.58319445

>>58314930
Wholesale commodities are actually flat for a couple decades in some cases and used cars are crashing. It's just labor and housing that's going up.
Maybe inflation is the right word but I don't think it's monetary, it's really the destruction of social cohesion (that is socialization and administration is the most expensive thing and getting worse.)
"No one wants to socialize anymore" (not just work.)

>> No.58319447

>>58318572
Contango on vix is lowering. Beside the October contract bump in the forward curve. Futures smell a trap

>> No.58319470

>>58319404
Energy and Finance is where you should be rotating too.

>> No.58319484

>>58319445
>Nobody wants to socialize (risk) anymore.
Naturally, at least 60% of the population partook in a cheap Milgram prison experiment as guards trying to force at most 40% to be prisoners. And the age distribution was also very clear - the majority of guards were boomers and all children were prisoners.

Boomers can rot in hell and die in the gutter, there representatives need to be skinned alive and their new liberal pyramid scheme can burn to ashes

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>>58319404
>Non tech ETFs do terribly. Automobiles. Healthcare. Energy. Transportation. Minerals.
look at these ETFs

>> No.58319496

>>58319484
This started years before 2020. I'd argue 2008 was the market realizing the consequences of this.

>> No.58319498

>>58319445
Is our future more like a developing nation or more like a cyberpunk dystopia?

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>>58319023
>has 34% stake in SpaceX
No, it has a 0.1% stake in SpaceX. 34% of DXYZ's holdings are in SpaceX.

>> No.58319515

>>58319498
I still think South Africa/Rhodesia is the target. The timeline is the part I'm not totally sure about.

>> No.58319518

>>58319447
>Contango on vix is lowering
because the market is complacent and VIX just spiked a little, but yes this isn't the ideal time for this trade, however if you want to park your money for a few years it's still better than buying VOO
>Futures smell a trap
if they did VIX futures for whenever that trap would come would be higher

>> No.58319549

>>58319498
Jewish Bolsheviks killed 14 million Russians, mainly targeting Christians. They then left the country and came to America and now hold power. Currently there is no serious opposition to them.

>> No.58319553

>>58319230
uh gay?

>> No.58319563

>>58319496
2008 the point of no return was overstepped and 2020 put the last nail in the coffin - unfortunately political parties refused to play ball with the boomer genocide out of fear to lose voters. Funny, now they might get lynched
>>58319518
Check October contract

>> No.58319581

>>58319563
>now they might get lynched
That's not what populist uprisings look like, that's what happens when some elite intellectual decides to get violent. Populist uprisings are when everyone just gives up and checks out.

>> No.58319643

>>58319563
>check a contract that expires in 6 months with a max daily volume of 3,000 (that's $63k worth lmao) when the one after that is lower
I wouldn't look for too much meaning in that one

>> No.58319648

>>58319581
Might, but where are they going to flee? The sect pretty much fucked up on a planetary scale since after 1945, increased the risk again in the 70s went full retard in 2008 and left the building of sanity in 2020. There is nowhere to flee and the debtors will hardly just take haircuts on this scale. On this scale using violence becomes rational to get thr heads

>> No.58319699

>>58319563
2008 financial crisis was fine until they weaponized the dollar

>> No.58319741

>>58319648
>Might, but where are they going to flee?
They don't have to flee they can just drink themselves to death or take weird drugs and flee into their mind. You're already seeing exactly this happening.

>> No.58319760

>>58318755
So what do I buy? More MSFT or more V?

>> No.58319769

>>58319760
VT

>> No.58319836
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58319836

Green week.

>> No.58319856

>>58319111
wholesome prank

>> No.58319872

>>58317153
Yes. Christianity is welcoming and wants to spread the gospel so Churches and the parishioners/congregants will be happy to see a new face there.

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>>58317717
The average person's saving rate is abysmal. As long as you save and invest more than the average person, you are getting ahead.

>> No.58319908

>huge niggers with dreadlocks walking up behind lonely small white girls at gas stations in germany asking for free gasoline is a social experiment
is this bullish petroleum bros

>> No.58319915

How do you stop feeling bad about generational wealth? It feels unearned

>> No.58319927

>>58319915
You're upset because you're model of the world and human socialization is incorrect.

>> No.58319930

>>58319915
can't remember the exact number but almost all fortunes are gone by the third generation

>> No.58319954

>>58319930
I feel like good philosophy and discipline is a much more powerful gift to children than just wealth. Wealth helps but it's nothing if your children are idiots.

>> No.58319955

>>58319915
if you had kids wouldn't you want them to have what you've earned?

>> No.58319980

>Solar geoengineering experiment in San Francisco injected "salt crystals" into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight

How do I profit from the incoming environmental crisis?

>> No.58319998

>>58319930
>almost all fortunes are gone by the third generation
People repeat this a lot but to me it feels like an historical abbreviation. On the other hand it's also so vague that it doesn't even have any meaning in it.

>>58319955
Sure but not really my point

>> No.58319999

>>58319954
i'd compare it to addiction or something, can't help themselves but to self-sabotage. genetic, spiritual.
it's so crazy you can't keep your shit just the least bit steady.

>> No.58320010

>>58319915
what's unearned about giving your kids your wealth when you pass on?
what's unearned about keeping onto wealth inherited?
>>58319930
looking at this - don't you think it's earned after some point? how would you fare in such a situation? would you be able to keep onto the wealth yourself? how fast would you end up broke?

>> No.58320018

>>58319998
>>58319954
>>58319930
i think they did a test and the wealthiest people in florence were still the same last names as the people who were generally wealthy in the medici times. But i wouldnt trust americans to keep the wealth going. euros are pretty good at that generational and legacy stuff. Americans burn it all out on cruises and paper houses.

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58320023

Will semi stocks drop anytime soon, or is fomoing my only option?

>> No.58320041

>>58320010
I didn't work for it, I didn't take risks.

>>58320018
I wouldn't say that, real estate compromises a big slice of average euro wealth and that's going into the shitter with birthrates and immigrants focusing on the bigger cities

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58320089

>>58320023
maybe, but we're starting the run up to earnings so it should pump.

>> No.58320090

>>58319999
My family has managed to do very well over at least the past four generations but it wasn't because of inherited wealth it's because the older people taught the younger people care and discipline.

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58320114

some kid in a hoodie will rule the earth

>> No.58320119

>>58319998
>3 generations

my grandfather had a bunch of land, could be worth hundreds of thousands or millions, but if you split up what remained after him drunkingly gambling it away by the heirs its worth nothing

>> No.58320131

Anyone for shorting NYCB with me next week? A lot of bank earnings on Friday and I think they will take another shit because of the antics of the AG of NY and that they still need to dilute to shore up their credit profile and are voting on it the next shareholder meeting.

>> No.58320134

>>58320018
>euros are pretty good at that generational and legacy stuff
I dont think so

>> No.58320149

INHERITANCE BROS

>> No.58320167

>>58320149
What happened? why are you screaming?
>Inherit about 40k worth of money
>bet the wrong way on semis
>-50k+ tax loss credit built up

>> No.58320171

>>58319998
My grandmother was very frugal and saved up quite a bit but she was from the era of not trusting banks, also only had a high school education so didnt understand inflation or finance. She basically just saved cash in her safes, still drives me nuts. She could never have been convinced to play stocks but If she had saved gold instead it would be worth quite a bit more.

Knowledge+experience is priceless.

>> No.58320180

>>58320167
Holy fuck bro you got credit till the 40s lmao.

>> No.58320207

>>58320180
You're welcome to anyone who short semis. I bought the nancy play on MU and ate fucking shit. Same with small caps.

>> No.58320211

>>58320119
My great uncle inherited his parent's farm in Wisconsin and my mom had him sell it off to cover the taxes because out there her generation really had no understanding of how important land is.

>> No.58320220

>>58320134
>kings that were direct lines for like over a thousand years
>banks that are from the 1400s that are still family run and around today
no u

>> No.58320235

>>58320041
if you kept it and were able to pass it on, you earned it. your parents worked for it. do they not earn the right to pass their wealth on? you are not the main character LMAO

>> No.58320242

>>58320211
My grandfather owned an entire fucking street in the middle of my town when it was more like an oversized village, plus a few dots of land here and there, one of which is my home, and next to it i have 4 uncles with their own land. those retards think they have a gold mine or some shit but because its all split its worth like 30k. when those morons dies their retarded sons will not even know where those properties are

>>58320220
kings aren't really rich because of their entrepreneurial mindset, and most of those banking families moved to the US long time ago or they are inbreed dutch families

>> No.58320279

>>58320242
>and most of those banking families moved to the US long time ago or they are inbreed dutch families
no they didnt. and i was referring to the italians.
>Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena traces its history to a mount of piety (monte di pietà) founded by order of the Magistrature of the Republic of Siena on 4 March 1472
idk why you want to fight me over this but its really easy to pass on wealth. but its harder for americans because of how materialistic we are.

>> No.58320296

Anyone know where i can get gamma levels for free?
some dumbfuck on twitter is encouraging menthor q to go full paywall

>> No.58320304

>>58320279
>but its really easy to pass on wealth
Except if you lived under communism... or pre-ww2 Germany.... or pre-ww1 Europe...... or during french revolution..... or....

Passing down wealth is kinda hard, even in a place where most wealth existed

>> No.58320309

>>58320304
>Except if you lived under communism... or pre-ww2 Germany.... or pre-ww1 Europe...... or during french revolution..... or....
none of which is preventing americans from passing down wealth. like the conversation was about.

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>>58320304
You aren’t wealthy if your “wealth” is hard to pass down. Billionaires have no problem securing their great (x20) grand children billions, atleast in America.

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>>58320220
>banks that are from the 1400s that are still family run and around today
Which banks are you thinking of? I only know of one bank that old, BMPS, and it's not family-run.

>> No.58320329

>>58320304
>passing down wealth is hard
>i didn't earn it tho

jfc you are a woman aren't you

>> No.58320340

>>58320327
>BMPS, and it's not family-run.
then i was mistaken. but i still believe its easy to pass on wealth if you dont raise retarded materialistic agnostic/secular kids.

>> No.58320347

>>58320323
It's historically kinda hard though, America is a abbreviation where it's piss easy to do. For fuck sakes half of Europe literally got razed to the ground by communism.

>>58320329
It is! Most people will fail to pass down their wealth too because it's all in real estate, that shit is gonna tank alongside the demographic decline.

>> No.58320348

>>58320279
you have the Rockefellers and the Rothschild that moved to the US and you have the Fugger who just went bust. I can see your take on it, but could you at least provide some more families to look into?

>> No.58320357

>>58320323
billionaires can afford to move their assets around, id like to see you during a commie coup like my grandfather, he literally had to chase them away in their pick up trucks with a chainsaw in 1975

>> No.58320374

>>58320348
>Rockefellers
theyre from the us. well they got rich in the us and stayed here. rothschild is still mostly europe based i think. there are the asians too but im not talking about just famileis that have wikipedia pages. the study found the the families who had the most wealth in florence centuries ago still do. maybe its just some lefty research page but if its so hard to hold onto generational wealth then clearly it shouldnt be any family still remaining from that long ago.

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>>58320171
>also only had a high school education so didnt understand inflation or finance
Implying people with higher education understand inflation and finance.

>> No.58320395

>>58320357
>he literally had to chase them away in their pick up trucks with a chainsaw in 1975
tell more anon

>> No.58320398

>>58320340
BMPS has also been a struggling, unsuccessful business for many years, and required multiple government bailouts.

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>> No.58320462 [DELETED] 
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>futures

>> No.58320463

>prefutures

>> No.58320470

>>58320395
>military is tired of the colonial war
>makes a coup in 1974
>gets highjacked by communists
>they get exiled
>they proceed with "PREC" (Processo revolucionário em curso)
>Country gets split between a conservative north and commie south
>on the brink of civil war
>they try and make every propriety into "schools for the people"
>literally just show up and say this is mine now
>get chased away by my grandfather with a chainsaw

>>58320374
yeah, my theory is that europe was a feudal society. and it goes like this

>you have 3 estates, the aristocracy, the people and the clergy
>they were represented, even if rarely during the era of absolutism, by the estates generals
>the people was actually represented by the local oligarchs
>the french revolution empowered those oligarchs
>they go on and set up a regime suitable for them

>> No.58320471

>>58318628
Priced in

>> No.58320479

new

>>58320473

>>58320473

>>58320473

>> No.58320493

>>58320470
>he french revolution empowered those oligarchs
you can just say the bourgeoise class realized they had the money and should govern. hence we have our current merchant republic world.

>> No.58320500

>>58320470
lmao based

>> No.58320502

>>58320493
its more complex, the aristocrats didnt immediatly die out, apart from France, and Portugal (barely) europe was all monarchies in ww1, so the prestige from being from a noble family was still very much real

>they go on to marry the former aristocracts for shits and giggles
>their sons start behaving as such

>> No.58320520

>>58318785
Last time Japan chipped out it took two nuclear bombs to calm them down and they only agreed to stop fighting. Don’t underestimate their hatred for foreigners.

>> No.58320614

>>58320376
well no, but there also wasnt the internet back then so fuck...

>> No.58321215

>>58319894
that won't put you ahead, that will just put you slightly less behind and maybe afford you a slightly bigger pod and slightly more palatable bug patties

>> No.58322190

>>58317739
>start a business
no. buy a local business or store