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>>58192405
Looks like a bar of steel.

First time stacker. I’ve just bought 4 1oz silver philharmonics and a 1/10 oz gold philharmonic. I can afford to do this every month. Am I gonna make it?

Sup bros.

>>58192453
No but you'll be better off than your neighbors.

Gotta stack up on an og meme before it's too late!

ALMC just got approval for CEX listing

>>58192453
>Wieners
Heh.
>1/10 Oz
I hope you got a great deal...

>>58192453
1/10 oz gold things are usually a scam with high premiums. I would not touch gold with more than a 2% premium. If that's all you can afford each month, then save up and make purchase quarterly or once a year. 4oz of silver and 0.1oz of gold every month is enough to buy maybe a sovereign every other month; I'd do that instead.
PMGs are not about making money, they're about preserving wealth and combating inflation, more for gold than silver. I wouldn't recommend stacking if you're poor. Silver is not going to hit the moon or whatever people are convinced will happen and if SHTF, PMs won't be traded for decades and not until proper communities are established.
Focus on gold, stack silver because it's fun and cheap. I tend to get about 7oz silver a week and then 2-3 sovereigns a month.

>>58192603
>1/10 oz gold things are usually a scam with high premiums
they're not "scams" they're just not the most efficient purchase
>then save up and make purchase quarterly or once a year
that might turn out badly in a bull market

>>58192439
it has an antique finish

>>58192405
>ID CArE

>>58192399
Checked. Tempted to cash out and get some of the fractional Krugs that showed up nearby. Didn't even know some of the denominations existed until today.

>>58192532
>>58192588
>>58192603
What is theoretically a comfy amount? What should be the minimum goal for a SHTF scenario or the US dollar losing most of its value?

>>58192603
This, and I wouldn't touch anything without collectible value over a 2% premium. It's not hard to get silver at 1-1.5% over spot if you buy decent size lots.

>>58192632
Why are you using physical to speculate on a <1 year time frame? That's stupidly inefficient. Go on one of those penny ante trading apps and buy shares of GDX and SIL to hedge yourself against PMs mooning.

>>58192716
>What is theoretically a comfy amount?
5 oz gold
100 oz silver

just an opinion

>>58192726
>Why are you using physical to speculate on a <1 year time frame?
...we were talking about physical, weren't we? I didn't mention a time frame either.

>>58192716
Do some research into how people are doing in Lebanon and Venezuela and then look at your country. Should help paint a good picture.

>>58192453

>>58192716
Nothing will matter when/IF SHTF. If there's a situation where the dollar has collapsed and the country is in anarchy then the world closely follows as almost every country's economy and currency is pegged to the dollar. In the first few weeks/months of chaos, having shiny silver or gold won't help you. There will be chaos everywhere and people will be fighting and killing over resources. Food, medicine, fuel, safety and shelter.
After the initial chaos, people will begin to band together to form small communities but even then it will still be about food, fuel and skills. Would a community that has stocked up on food and ammunition want your gold/silver or the next guy along who is a doctor and knows how to treat their wounded? Or the next guy who is an engineer and can help maintain their generators or the damn they've built their community around?
Only when there are established communities and civilisation begins to form again will people need to using things like silver and gold to trade.
PMs, more so gold, become useful if you have localised collapses. Like Syria for instance, where money in the bank doesn't matter any more and your beach front property is a wreck. You escape the country, wearing your gold jewellery and carrying gold coins to restart your life in another country. If you're escaping to another country, what's easier to carry? $100,000 in silver coins or gold coins? Especially if safety is a concern? Easier to shove a few gold coins up your arse than a silver monster box.

inb4 shill, currently got a little over 300oz of silver in case I'm wrong and because it's a neat metal to collect. But trying to convince people that silver will moon to $10,000 an oz or whatever is exactly like the jeets convincing people to buy scam crypto because it'll 100x

>>58192632
chap can only afford a 1/10 oz gold coin a month, Chards has a premium of 12.5% on them so better to buy a sovereign every other month or save up to buy an oz coin once a year.

>>58192764
Time frame is implied by the fact that Anon is putting ~$400/mo into PMs, and he'd have to ~1.5x that amount to guarantee efficient purchases. If you're concerned about PMs going insane in the next few months, you hedge yourself with mining ETFs.

>>58192603
History shows that when people who are familiar with a money economy lose access to sufficient reliable currency they very quickly find a substitute because barter is so cumbersome and inefficient. The idea that people will barter for decades after a currency collapse is nonsense.

In the USA during the depression of the 1830s there was a shortage of currency. People very quickly began minting and circulating their own coins. Now called Hard Times tokens. Same thing happened during the Civil War. Even people confined to prison camps invent money.

When the US dollar collapses (when, not if) people will very quickly find alternative currency. PMs are the most likely replacement for the same reasons they have been money for thousands of years.

Interesting that now, when gold is an obvious winner, the fud has turned against silver. Hmmmm.

>>58192903
History didn't have the internet, they didn't have instantaneous connection with one another across the globe, they didn't have complete and utter global Jewish control over EVERY single facet of life be it food production, communication, energy production or social media.

Kids are in their teens and can't read, they're hooked to their telephones but don't know how to use a computer or anything electronic that isn't an app. Women are more promiscuous then ever yet we've reached the highest percentage of men not having sex.

We live in a VERY different world to the depressions era or the 1800s. When/IF the dollar collapses, it will be replaced with a newer more controlled system. E-Dollars, E-Yuan, BitYet, GoodBoyInternetPoints etc.

>>58192922
They're fudding both. I know I saw some lead the past few threads at least. Come to think, I should intentionally be buying chocolate coins right now. Those are delicious.

>>58192878
>you hedge yourself with mining ETFs
If you can't hold it then you don't own it.

Even though patience has put me in a position where I could go out and buy multiple of these now (instead of just one like a few weeks ago) part of me still wants to be impatient and buy on Monday. The reasoning of "Why not enjoy it?" sure is a funny one.

>>58192944
You seem to be throwing everything you can think of against the wall to see what sticks. But no matter how much you think things have changed, money is still half of nearly every economic transaction on the planet. That will not change. What replaces the dollar when it collapses remains to be seen. But it is highly unlikely that billions of people all over the world who just got fucked by the US dollar will turn around and accept some vapor coin from the same country that just fucked them. They will want something more substantial. History strongly suggests that gold and silver will fill the bill.

I've been lurking for a while and I'm a little confused as to whether you all are hedging against inflation or the downfall of society?

>>58193212
>you all are hedging against inflation or the downfall of society
Yes.

>>58193212
Differing goals. For me it's really just another form of emergency preparation. Most others here do not live in a country where the rare but bad enough Winter storm can down powerlines for a week or more, and whose government has sold off the gold reserves (though there are mines that are growing in scope) for bonds because they're more convenient to shuffle around.

>6% of silver supply printed in a day
>4% of gold supply printed in a day
This is why they fud.

>>58192453
You'll survive at least, unlike your neighbors

>>58193212
To a large extent, stacking is compelled by a process of elimination. If, like most of us, you see the American economy as a gigantic fraud sitting on top of the biggest debt bubble in history, then you know that when the bubble pops mind-boggling amounts of paper wealth are going to evaporate. So where do you park your wealth?


In a sense it doesn't matter what happens after the dollar collapses. No matter what happens, you will be better off with hard assets in hand that have ALWAYS been valuable.

>>58193416
Yep. Land. PMs. Guns. Troonshine. Even ratanon who collects broken sim cards will make it lmfao

>>58192827
>currently got a little over 300oz of silver in case I'm wrong

well it's good that you did because you are wrong

>>58193212
>hedging against inflation or the downfall of society?

same thing

Pretty bar. Too bad about the premium.

>>58192944
Let's catalog the fud:

1. History doesn't matter because the internet changed everything! It's 2024!
2. People are too stupid to value gold and silver!
3. Women are whores and you are virgins (not really seeing the connection to PMs, but . . )
4. The all-powerful elite can do whatever they want to you so don't bother trying to resist!
5. The Jews! Boooga Booga!
6. Crypto will take over!

This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how you know somebody is using a fud script.

>>58192827
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>>58193554
My personal favorite is that we've all lost 80% due to premiums, but also because of oppurtunity cost by not investing in btc. As if the USD spot price is the only metric that could possibly matter. He uses the term 'money' in place of fiat currency, when the literal definition of money is gold and silver coinage. How could we have lost money by trading paper fiat for actual money? Silliness.

>>58193554
Post your stack then, it's always interesting how those who shout loudest on these threads, either accusing others of being shills or the tired old "you lost 80%" guy never seem to post their stack, or even a portion of it. inb4 some non-timestamped photo of one gold coin.

>>58193104
You're forgetting population. In 25 years India And Africa are going to be the population centres of the world. One is closely linked with BRICS and veering away from the dollar, even going as far to buy Russian gas in rubles whilst the other is an unstable continent that has been slowly bought up by China as US interests have waned. The usage of the dollar has slowly declined worldwide, it's not idiotic to say that the dollar will be replaced with some other currency and with an increasingly digitised world. Crypto is a massive scam, but why is it suddenly becoming mainstream? Because every single transaction can be logged and traced, can't do that with cash. It's not far-fetched to say that a digital currency will be the future after the dollar. China has already launched their digital yuan.

>>58193638
>inb4 some non-timestamped photo of one gold coin.
Do you really expect ppl to get all their stack out of their safe and spend half an hour or more piling it up to take a timestamped pic just to "own" you itt?
Comon' man, that's way too much efforts for no pay off.

>>58193467
i like all their bars. i wish these special editions were the same as the normal brit bar.

>>58193599
>>58193666
>makes a new ID just to call someone a retard repeatedly
>666
Good afternoon, Satan.

>>58193638
>In 25 years India And Africa are going to be the population centres of the world. One is closely linked with BRICS
What's hilarious is India is crashing the BRICS all alone just in spite of muslims by siding with Israel at any cost even though the last 6 BRICS members they accepted are muslims nations kek. BRICS will never be more than an economic zone agreement for transnational payments at best, they all have interests in contradiction with each others, no real alliance will ever emerge from this.

Not saying this to contradict your post, it's all correct and predictable, just that the BRICS wont become a monolithic threatening entity politically, but an economic zone this size getting rid of the USD is enough to greatly weaken it for sure.

>>58193707
>makes a new ID
Good afternoon to you aswell, brother.
In case you didn't notice, this is a fresh bread kek. But out of schitzo curiosity, which other ID i am itt?

never realized these came with a coa. neat.

>>58193771
50 posts and 3 hours isn't that fresh m8
and it just seemed strange to start off here by calling anon retarded like that over a convo I guess you weren't involved with

>>58193638
I think I have adequately identified you as a scripted fud. Those who have been around a while know my stack well enough I think.

>>58193806
Even baldies looks good on gold, truly a magical metal.

>>58193812
Just a little petty vendetta as this anon was needlessly shitting on my posts in the previous bread and i didn't have the opportunity to answer back. Nothing to worry about fren.

>>58193837
it really do be the juice tho

>>58193860
Blame them if you like. I have no dog in that fight. But don't let people use that to manipulate you. Not a day goes by without a fud claiming that buying silver is enriching Jews. That is aimed at manipulating you against your interests. Be careful fren.

>>58192827
lmfao
For anybody wondering, no, the entire world is not going to collapse because the entire world isn't the United States of America lol.
and yes, if you get your gold or silver, or even your antiques or other nice stuff, to a guy who will transport and ship them around the world to people who have stuff, you can have stuff in exchange.
Jesus fucking christ people are panicking like crazy which might make sense for the folks who are planning to live off the governmnet for the rest of their lives, including former military on pension, social security or the businesses that profit from these consumers, but the idea that the WHOLE WORLD is going to do like the americans and collapse.... yeah good luck fantasizing about that. YOU guys are the ones that can't live within your means. YOU are the ones printing the currency and borrowing into existence too much money and having it fuck up your conception of reality.
For the love of god in India hundreds of millions of people never even left the fucking gold standard they still produce food and fix stuff and manufacture.
The problem you have to worry about in the USA is socialism and the government going bonkers so yeah that I understand, but that looks more like a civil war not the end of the world lol.

>>58193666
> or even a portion of it
Took me all of a minute to take pic related, don't even have to post everything.

>>58193754
For now, but as over-population and unchecked immigration destroy Western nations what's the playing field going to be like in 25 years? The UK is a prime example. The country is falling apart, people are destitute and local government is bankrupt. Yet somehow our economy is doing well? Look at what's happening with Canada when they've imported millions of jeets, their housing market is about to crash and their economy is fucked. It's simplified of course, but a couple of decades can easily change the economic landscape.

>>58193837
>I've got a stack, you just don't know her! She's been posted in other threads! She is totally really and exists though!

Oh great, another thread where retards who lost 80% brag about their investments mooning......throw in some seething about the 100% gains in crypto this month and some schizo comments on brick or the imaginary silver standard and repeat 300 times

>>58193965
you lost 80% on silver, retard

how did you lose 10 years of inflation in just 3 years? You're a special sort of stupid. And you paid the highest premiums in history.

>>58193955
>I'm going to survive the imaginary collapse by making the worst investment possible

You would be better off making a friend or at least storing your money in a bank instead of a nice case for Tyrone to walk off with it,....kektop you said you weren't posting anymore that only lasted 3 days

IQDelet is back on the clock

It begins

>>58192965
Except if the apocalypse doesn't happen this year you will own more gold next year because your mining ETFs outperformed gold.

>>58193998
>brings up niggers for no reason

>>58194074
first ones you've gotten?

>>58194090
The first ones Ive gotten not in a hardcover. Im trying to get a Half doller tube full of them. Just like the coins. I mainly focus on Bullion but some silver coins are neat

>>58192453
keep doing it and after a while you will have some pile :)

>>58192453
>He bought the weiners

>>58193212
Both. But also they're a long term savings and possibly as an inheritance for your kids and/grandkids.

>>58194358
LOL. I need one

I stack it all. Gold, silver, BTC, brass, food, water filtration, land, mining stock, hell even a little paper as a cushion.

i cant find anyone who gives a shit about the gold ath

I was refreshing that last thread for 3 or so hours before i realized it was archived and a new one was already made.

>>58194388
Because people own real investments that make real returns, your imaginary gains in metal are unimpressive they just want you to shut up about your ponzi scheme

>>58194388
>88
Checked.

It's not just gold. The media is being really blase about BTC reaching all time high and the amount of risk that's stacking up in derivatives and banks on the verge of collapsing from over-exposure to CRE.

The insane amount of apathy (or suppression) is another sign the collapse is near. Back in the 80s, it was a huge deal that the national debt reached $1 trillion USD. Now $1 trillion is just another Monday agreement to fund 3 months of bloated federal operations. People are hiding their head in the sand afraid to look at the train about to run them over and hope it just passes them by.

>>58193212
Exigencies caused by random acts of government. I also like to collect antique gold. Sometimes I sell if it gets nosebleed high, like BU Victoria sovereigns, but speculation isn't the primary motive.

LOTR is like the ultimate stacker story. The enemy came at humanity with assault after assault and nonstop propaganda and all Frodo had to do to win was hold a little bit of gold til the end and all their bullshit was just a derivative of that and fell apart.

>>58194507
Did you get the coin?

>>58194388
The first big movement was months ago so now a lot are just waiting for it to get to the price they really want. Like it's less about reaching new ATHs and more that a previous ATH seemed to have kicked off the longer term pump. It's like having some investment and you celebrate an ATH more as a signal of it starting to really move and now you're waiting for it to reach $1, $10, etc. Basically getting worked up over every ATH along the way just won't happen.

>>58194514
No, maybe I should get one as a collector piece. I've spent more on worse.

What are the times in the morning when smashes take place? 10am est, but when else?

>>58194388
They have no concept that literally EVERYTHING they own is credit.
Insurance, Stocks, Bonds, Real Estate, are all leveraged assets dependent on a counterparty. Or they exist in a market that is corrupt by credit (debt pulls forward demand from the future and allows people to consume at rates HIGHER than their income should allow).
A simple thought experiment is to imagine what would happen if the real estate market was suddenly devoid of bank credit and forcibly settled on a cash-basis only. No more borrowed money. No more cheap debt to buy up assets to own rental properties. The average American can't even come up with $2000 in a week. They're stone broke as a whole. The $50TN real estate (and all the financial MBS paper) would implode overnight in a massive cascade of write-offs and lost value.
New money is created by banks and they are often using garbage collateral to backstop the loans. So if the collateral implodes so too do the loans if they are not serviced. The dirty little trick is it's a wealth extraction scheme. If I have a $10M Treasury that is AAA then it is technically a perfectly safe asset for a bank to give me a $10M loan because the maturity date offers 100% protection to the bank. So they start layering up more and more leverage on the same bogus value and dump it all into the stock market and slurp up free money from the corporations.
That's all going to unwind and I haven't really heard a good excuse as to how that doesn't happen. All of these bad debts are like spent-fuel rods being buried in your back yard. You get electricity today, but you get cancer/mutations in the future. Our little service economy is gluttonously consuming capital and not accumulating it. And every little paycheck and investment you make has you buying CREDIT and not CAPITAL.
Gold is money, everything else is credit./

>>58194514
Is there a gold version?

>>58192399
Why has GOLD and SILVER spot been locked at the same price all day today?
is this some kind of holiday?

>>58194578

>>58194564
My god. How many oz you got in that bag?

>>58194596
Good Friday

>>58194597
Thanks. Also ended up finding some gold bars with the LotR theme.

>>58194613
It's not mine, but damn is it not one of my favorite PM pics.

>>58194564
>guys just imagine if this impossible thing happens then they will be poor and we will be magically rich because the poor people will want our ro KS and give us houses and girlfriends and everything

OK then good luck fren thanks for exposing the mind of the stacktard

Was doing research on JP Morgan's manipulation of silver. But it turned into a rabbit hole. This website covers it REALLY well.

archive ph kjumH

>>58194625
>Good Friday
oh. lol i had no idea. i was almost certian it was some sinister manipulation shenanigans going on.

>>58194420
Lmao, yall retards who know there's gonna be hyperflation could have gotten 30 year mortgages at 2% but you didnt...could have basically gotten free houses that yall brag about...but you didnt.....kektop see even if your retarded theories come to pass muh hyperflation you picked a dumb strategy .....rocks that will never go up

>>58194689
Yep, most people here aren't aware that JPMorgan manipulates silver prices higher than its real price of $3.50 but the facts are out there if you look

My home is locked in at 2.7% and almost fully paid off and I'm still stacking.

>>58194689
TLDR;
1.) JP Morgan in 2012 starts manipulating metal prices via spoofing, leveraging, naked shorts
2.) Silver price declines
3.) They buy COCK TONS of the cheap metal and make BILLIONS (see graph)
4.) In 2015 David Meister, a CFTC regulator, opens a probe on the case and oversees it
5.) He convicts 5 traders including managers under RICO
6.) Meister A DAY AFTER closes the probe and then QUITS as regulator and then goes BACK to working as a LAWYER for one of the people he convicted!
7.) JP Morgan ends up paying about $1B in fines (they made $12B a year later in revenue so no biggie)
8.) The traders get sent to prison for 1 or 2 years and a measly $50~90k fine
9.) JP Morgan did not need to return the silver they accumulated
10.) Silver to this day still depressed a long with gold

>>58194664
All debts are paid or written off. There is no free lunch. If there was a free lunch, then let's just exploit the free-money glitch and all be millionaires.
But since we all know that's retarded we should judge the debts/leverage for what they are. Bad IOUs on such a scale the real-world economy can NEVER make good on them.

This was a great interview, David had a lot of powerful insights into silver
https://youtu.be/BqrJDRWOaqM?si=1Cpx2q5aSkWO_Qcp
>>58194564
Kino pic

>>58194816
>Hey guise look at this commodity I paid a 109% premium on, until it gets melted down again I keep it in a plastic case

>>58194699
Checked. Forgot it was a holiday until late last night.
>sinister manipulation
Well that's just always going on and doing it to PMs is just a little more recent than to other things.

>>58194957
another busy day bud?

>>58194816
What type of cheese did you use? I hope that's not frozen.

>>58194973
part skim moz from wi

>>58194827
Silver pundits have a tough job because they can be 100% right but their timing can make them 100% wrong. In hindsight, investing in silver for 15+ years can be a feel-bad investment when other people seemingly are making money hand over fist. The problem is, when silver has its day in the sun international trade will be renegotiated, credit will lose purchasing power, and crippling deflation will be hitting maintstreet. It will be a depression and not just a V-Shaped recovery where we all get the magical opportunity to buy into the markets and ride the wave higher. The financial system will be checked with reality of the real economy.

I think IQDELET is some angry former-stacker who went all-in during 2011 and got burned because they're bad with money.

The best time to buy an asset is when it's ignored or hated by the market. I bought oil during the crash of spring 2020 and made a lot of money on those trades when stocks were near bottom. I bought bitcoin during the so-called "crypto winter" while people like Jim Cramer was saying it was dead and I made a lot of money.

Right now the market fucking HATES silver and so I'm buying it. Silver mining stocks and silver bullion are basically a bargain right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see another 2011 style event in another year or two as silver likes to rally toward the end of a gold bull market, and the gold bull market just started.

>>58193307
>394.90 x 25.02 = 9,880.39

oh god

Unpopular opinion: The dollar will never actually collapse.

The Fed's CBDC will simply be dressed up as the dollar despite not sharing any characteristics with it. In this way the dollar and the limited freedoms associated with physical cash will be destroyed while maintaining the image of stability for the U.S. government.

This doesn't mean PMs won't moon or be revalued to incredible values, just that the SHTF scenarios are probably overly dramatic compared to what'll actually happen.

>>58195071
cont.

Even crypto kiddies have been unable to value their digital tokens in anything but dollars.
Crypto nerds pre-2017 used to try and push the "sats" (Bitcoin unit) and it didn't catch on at all.
"Dollars" are so ingrained into the global collective unconscious that I don't believe we'll ever be able to move on from it.

>>58195110
$ is king and will be for another 100 years but if these retards get their wish and the $ collapses they will all be living like Cambodians, their 100 pounds of silver will only stave off their poverty for a month or 2

>>58195165
that's not what your mom said last night you fat bastard faggot

>>58195018
>Right now the market fucking HATES silver

More like just doesn't care, give it another 10 years, maybe after 5 years of junk silver selling at a discount to melt then would be the time to buy, until then you stacktards can cope seethe and dilate here 24/7 and scream into the void while I get richer with bitcoin

>>58195071
The dollar already collapsed long ago. It's been running on fumes and they keep coming up with fun new ways to prop it up: FDR confiscating gold and revaluing it afterward, Bretton Woods, Nixon "temporarily" suspending gold convertability, and replacing it with the petrodollar agreement via Kissinger and now CBDC. You're watching social structures and actual infrastructure crumble around you in real time. People can't afford food, transportation and shelter in increasing numbers every day and the US is accelerating that by taking on increased immigration from socialist countries that except to be provided for by their government. The engines are running on fumes and they're adding more passengers. Grab a parachute if you want to live.

>>58195193
>The dollar already collapsed long ago
Then why does the entire world still value it above other currencies? Even often above gold and silver?

I'm already aware of what you're describing and you're ignoring the psychological effect that I was talking about.

Just because the dollar has lost purchasing value over generations doesn't mean there's an alternative currency out there.

>>58195217
Bretton Woods in the 40s established the dollar as a global derivative of gold. Then all western currencies became derivatives of the dollar once that was the agreed standard unit of international trade. Under Nixon's administration, the gold backing was fully removed and replaced with a petrodollar agreement made with Saudi Arabia and OPEC that all OPEC nations will only accept US dollars for the oil. That agreement is in the process of dissolving now. Other nations outside the SWIFT system have started trading for oil and other commodities without the dollar.

But the legacy system in which many other currencies still act as a derivative of the dollar is still in place. The Japanese yen, the British pound, etc. They're falling because US interest rates went back up but they still need to trade their own currency for US dollars to buy oil within the SWIFT system.

However the dollar is also falling because inflation is still running hot. It's just not falling as fast as the other currencies. The dollar is just the shiniest turd in the toilet right now.

The biggest flaw in the dollar right now is the lack of trust forming from a crack where the US confiscated Russian assets that were basically treasuries in dollars that it was holding for Russia. It announced to the world that anyone buying bonds from the U.S. can have their assets seized. The bank of the world is no longer being objective.

It's true that there's no other trust-based fiat out there that can replace it, but the invention of blockchain is what's so deadly to the dollar. It's not trust-based. It's verification-based. BTC and gold-backed blockchain currency can't be confiscated in the same way U.S. treasuries can. That's the sea change I see in the waters right now. It won't happen immediately, but I think it'll happen faster than markets expect.

Or we can just set off global EMPs and go back to the stone age. Either way, dollar no good anymore as a long-term store of value.

>>58195031

>>58195193
>wypepol dindu nuffin

>>58195326
I know the history of the dollar very well, and the fact that it should be equal to 371 grains of silver according to the Coinage Act of 1792.

Let's get away from history and lecturing, please.

What I'm talking about is the PSYCHOLOGICAL hold on people that the dollar has. The "crack" you refer to isn't something the general public perceives, and the world leaders of other countries with even half a brain should already know the dollar is garbage.

The bottom line is that the dollar will not collapse, only TRANSFORMED into something more sustainable, with more control to boot. It doesn't matter if it loses ALL value, if THEY maintain the image of value.

I don't see the dollar fully dying in my life either but I can easily see it being reduced to the equivalent of company scrip from prospector days. Begrudgingly accepted.

>>58194816
The 1/2 ounce brigade coins in the right corner of the bin? Or are those full ounce?

>>58195018
>I think IQDELET is some angry former-stacker

>>58195409
that one is 3/4 ounce. do they make a full ounce coin? there's a 1/2 ounce coin in there for both of those versions too.

https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/item/canada-3-4-ounce-silver-2013-special-service-force-

*can't remember if i actually bought it here or somewhere else

>>58195450
Nifty insights. I remember the 1/2 ounce were on sale from silvergoldbull so that it was the same as getting 1 ounce coins. Tempting deal but I didn't go for it then.

>>58194801
Lmao, yeah that's the reason your garbage rocks lost 80% bot the FACT that there's a huge supply and no demand (except stacktardS)

>>58195665
You lost 80% on garbage rocks you drooling retard. You paid 75% premiums on silver and missed out on 100,000,000% bitcoin gains over the last 10 years. Now you post here all day trying to trick racists like you into losing money too.

>>58195435
Is he the guy who got rich by not buying silver?

>>58194507
Kek based

>>58192399
when do we sell?

>>58195924
>>58195924
When you get tired of being poor and losing $

>>58195967
You're poor because you bought silver and lost 890%

>>58195924
When you desperately need money, never sell more than absolutely necessary.

>>58195924
What is sell?

Anyone know the round abouts value of a 1925 Stone Mountain Half?

this one

>>58192399
>ze silver shipped

>>58195924
>sell
We don’t do that here.

>>58194816
A little too close to summer to be eating carbs, isn't it?
Nice Canada moose coin I see in there though, fren.

Happy Friday everyone! Back from a 3 day time out. You know how that goes.

>>58192453
Only if you stop buying overpriced funkopops and buy VOO instead.

>>58196685
Why do they make those coins so ugly, is it so we won't stack?

>>58195071
The dollar will collapse. It will be painful for a lot of people. It has to be. For CBDCs to be implemented in the US, it has to hurt to the gubment can come in and save the day. People will be so fucked that they'll be begging for the CBDCs. BRICS will have a meeting this October to discuss their commodities backed currency. When this happens I think we'll get a little taste of what's to come.

>>58196742
you can't afford to stack because you lost 563 billion percent buying silver at the top 10 years ago. Should've bought bitcoin, it's prettier. Then you could be rich like me. It's not too late retard.

>>58196746
You will be older that that old man and ranting about muh BRICs in the nursing home as Tyronne the orderly pockets your Garbage rocks for MD20/20

>>58196777
You will die alone and hated because you spent all your money on boomer rocks when you could've been buying bitcoin and BBBYQ stocks.

>>58195924
>sell

Scored a copy of this today. Going to head out this summer to try it out.

>>58196746
>it has to hurt to the gubment can come in and save the day. People will be so fucked that they'll be begging for the CBDCs
Don't you think we're already getting close to that with everyone carrying so much credit card debt?

Also I love your old man bar, where is that from?

>>58196851
If you head over to /cmmg/ PAN MAN can give you some excellent tips on panning BC including some good spots I bet.

>>58195697
I want you to know Shlomo, that by using the term racist, you've convinced me to stack PM.

>>58196092
>1925 Stone Mountain Half
A quick look with the search engine "Google" shows this coin as being valued from $42-$13,560. If you have any other questions just let me know and I'll use my search engine again.

>>58196260
>Echeck Clearing

>>58196918
Hard to imagine anything taking that long in 2024, isn't it?

>>58195967
>>58195974
Kek either the bots malfunctioning or the faggot jesse is posing as two people

>>58196853
>Don't you think we're already getting close to that
I think it's going to be a Mother Of All Ruggings/black swan type event that gets people on their knees for CBDCs. I guess we'll have to wait two weeks and see.

> old man bar
Argentia, they make some nice bars.

>>58196946
Actually I just ordered last night and was pleasantly surprised that $1000 was gone from my account when I woke up this morning. Usually I just watch the money sit in my account for 3-5 days before getting this status alert. Only my second time ordering from Monument Metals, and I can't remember how long the shipping took last time.

Question for those lurking...
Has anyone noticed a lot of bullion dealers are low on stock for a good many products lately? I'm seeing more and more "Out of Stock" and "Notify Me" recently. Has me a little concerned.

>>58196918
I did a paper check and it has taken a long while to finally get the ball rolling in all honesty. I think I will do a different payment method next time.

On a work trip and stopped by perth mint. Really wanted some superpits or nuggets but none in stock. I couldn’t leave empty handed so picked up a couple of roos.
Gotta say, they’re very well struck coins. Can barely feel a die lip.

>>58197039
>Has anyone noticed a lot of bullion dealers are low on stock for a good many products lately? I'm seeing more and more "Out of Stock" and "Notify Me" recently.
Yeah, I’ve noticed it as well. Low premium items especially.

>>58195031
Embrace it.

>>58197113
I keep one in my cats water dish.

I know you guys like Krugs. Here's my 1st.

>>58197169
Good idea. I’ll have to do it for my dog.

>>58197091
>I did a paper check
Jesus gramps, didn't know those were still a thing. Did you use coupons as well?
Just kidding, fren. I use ACH payment for everything. I've ordered from a bullion dealer, can't remember which, that needed a check number. I didn't have a check with a number so I did some digging online. Turns out they just need your info and some digits. Just be sure not to use the same digits twice.

>>58197113
>mfw I have zero roos

>>58197326
>I didn't have a check with a number so I did some digging online. Turns out they just need your info and some digits. Just be sure not to use the same digits twice.
The numbers at the bottom of your check are called a routing number and an account number.
They don't change and yes it's safe to provide these numbers to reputable bullion dealers.

>>58192399
daily reminder that mint condition graded banknotes are even better than gold as an investment.

>>58197358
no, kys

>>58197124
>Low premium items especially.
I was going to order a shit ton of 2oz Monarch bars and when I went to put them in my cart it turns out they only had 23 of them. This was Apmex by the way, and that item isn't very low premium. I had at least six tabs open with different bullion dealers and was seeing that all of them were short on all kinds of stock. I'm a little spooked. I hope it's nothing though because I NEED MORE TIEM!

>>58197345
I should have been more specific. I have no paper checks, so the made up number I had to use a couple times was the four digit "check number". Apparently it can be 1234 or anything else as long as you don't use it twice.

> it's safe to provide these numbers to reputable bullion dealers.
At least 8 or 9 bullion dealers have my info. Never a problem.

>>58197358
>plastic protection for your professionally graded fiat paper
Lmfao

>>58197396
>the made up number I had to use a couple times was the four digit "check number"
oh...I don't remember ever being asked for that but ok glad you're safe fren

>>58197358
Bank notes can be fun to collect as they have some nice artwork, but I ain't paying that kind of fiat...for fiat.

>>58197358
>african
>purple note
kek

>>58194385
Spicy road ahead lads.
Everybody stay sharp and stay calm

>>58197367
>2oz Monarch bars
Based. But it’s probably nothing, PMs apparently have been pretty shit, spot price performance wise, in march. So maybe bullion dealers didn’t anticipate heighten demand.

What will you passive-aggressive church boys do when they try to forcefully recruit your sons to fight for Ukraine and Israel?

>>58195003
>>58194820
>>58194641
>>58194564
You and I share a brain.
Did you go to school for finance?

>>58197705
You lost fren? This isn't /pol/. Please stay on topic.

>>58197743
Relax faggot WW3 is very on topic for stackers

Why are silver shills so desperate to convince random strangers to buy garbage rocks? Sorry not sorry chuds we don't want your bags we buy real investments like real estate, stocks and crypto, you know, things that you don't lose 89% on

>>58197743
Is a pandemic not finance related either?
I suppose wars, the entire reason for the existence of an income tax in the USA and Canada, are not finance related because it's scary?

>>58197743
>>58197765
Since when is this /finance general/? This is /pmg/ and you two can go fuck each other somewhere else.

>>58197781
are you /pmg/ police?

>>58197781
LMFAO
>Shit hitting the fan is not precious metals related

>>58197793
There's at least half a dozen threads on /pol/ for what you want to discuss. Why not go there to discuss them?

>>58197803
Your stack
>not impressed

Discussions of war belong elswhere.

>>58197804
I know there's a hyperinflation general on /pol/ now but is there also a /pmg/?
There literally could be one in fact PMG could literally migrate to /pol/ permanently given how relevant it is to current events now. That would piss me off since I never go to /pol/ but i'd make an exception i guess

>>58197815
This to me doesn't even feel like a lot anymore because of how aggressively i've been buying and burying PM's now.
We are on the same team anon

>>58197804
>There's at least half a dozen threads on /pol/ for what you want to discuss
/pol/ is a cesspool of shills, bots and glowies

I just wanted to ask /pmg/ specifically what they were thinking about this recent escalation in the war. It matters to me what people here think, but whatever...

>>58197815
>not impressed
Are we doing a stack battle? I have 1500 oz of silver and 50 oz of gold

>>58197829
>We are on the same team anon
Why don't I feel that way? I try to keep /pol/ on /pol/ and am instantly attacked for it.

>>58197730
I did. Studied finance and read several books on Austrian Economics as well as plenty of boomer investing books which helps give the perspective on what investing used to look like with real interest rates and an economy not saturated with debt. I am no professional, but I think I pieced the overarching concepts together in broad enough terms that they can't be hand-waved away with technical jargon.

>>58197838
>1500 oz of silver and 50 oz of gold
just flew over my house

>>58197815
Here you can see the silver krugs i bought to prove it's my pool table in my parents 100+ year old gilded age house which makes me feel like "an oil man" or a "railroad tycoon" who kicks back after building a country.

>>58197845
Similar story, you ever read Menger's principles?
>conceptualizing the way the economy should work with a PM standard
thats exactly how I think

>>58197853
Great, that's the purpose of this general, metals. This general has gone to shit in the past year, I just don't see why it needs to turn into /pol/? Maybe I'm wrong. Carry on. I'll leave.

>>58197865
Amen

>>58197849
meh, not dragging it out, believe what you want. I have more metals than I know what to do with. Literally.

>>58197889
Hey what kind of box is that? I mean both actually the small one and the larger one that everything is in?

>>58197859
I did not. The most important things I think I took away from Austrian economics was the thought experiment of using a desert island and how "saving" berries created a surplus to allow you to invest the time to create fishing poles in order to catch fish (savings leading to capital accumulation and higher wages). I often think about how useless a banker would be on a desert island when you need real work completed.
That sort of logic helps you differentiate types of work being done. Services, middlemen, luxury tier professions (lawyers and bankers and services are pretty useless on a desert island. They are essentially "costs" to society in that you need to be able to afford them. Zimbabwe can just go and build up their infrastructure with the wave of a pen. They need logistics and material first. So everything we have available to us 100% comes from farms, mines, and energy, and manufacturing. Our surplus in the commodity sphere is where ALL of society lives and dies.

>>58197899
It's buried underground

>>58197964
Very based thread

>>58197948
Very based. Also noticing that the credit market seizing up basically makes swaths of the economy disappear, because surplus disappears (people demand now, both the goods/services AND the pay).

Huh the same bot is fighting itself about losing 80%

What old gold coinage should I pursue? Francs look like a good buy, but pre-33 coins are also alluring

>>58197865
Yeah it's full of JP Morgan silver fluffers trying to prop up the price of garbage rocks. They hate when people point out that silver is the worst investment ever and that no one on pmg ever made a profit (except minty)

>>58197948
Midwit logic.... without bankers you would be eating mosquitoes and mud cakes, you are just jealous they are better with money than you are,,,,,typical poor jealously of something you can't understand

>>58195924
Sell? When the time is right, you won't have to.

>>58198173
In his scenario there is not enough value to be created by having somebody store society's savings and allocate them (loan them for an interest rate) in order to pay depositors a return on their allocation. What he is alluding to is that when you shrink the economy, there isn't as much room for middlemen etc... there isn't surplus to the degree that you can have a role like that actually add to the productive capacity of the group versus pulling manpower that would have been allocated to catching more fish or making fire..
If in his scenario the group had saved up a bunch of fish, and somebody was able to stay on the beach and instead of catch and eat the fish (thus using his day to catch the fish) just eat the stockpiled fish, he would have free time... he could use that free time to create a net.. with that net they could have 1 person fishing instead of 3... then the 2 freed up persons could go and create surplus elsewhere etc etc etc.... suddenly you have surplus and THEN and ONLY THEN is there a reason for somebody to think about the next best thing to invest fish into.

>>58192603
>PMs won't be traded for decades and not until proper communities are established
Lol. LMAO even.

>>58198257
PM's would be traded immediately because there are functioning economies and societies outside the USA that could still buy (trade what they have for what you have) your silver or gold that you are selling.
Nothing is made in the USA anyways lmfao. If you need fertilizer the largest producer of it in the world is in Saskatchewan. The guys in Saskatchewan can operate just fine, take 'posession' of your physical PM's in a Brinks vault in the USA and then have those sent abroad in order to purchase the things that they need in Saskatchewan.

>>58198275
Nah they would just use $ or new $,,,,,,lmao no one is shipping silver to Canada for fertilizer...none of your use cases for silver is valid

>>58198290
People would still be using dollars while others use gold, like right now.
In fact people are still trying to use Argentinian Pesos right now.

>>58198290
You lost 6 million percent buying silver when you should have bought bitcoin in 1985
stay poor silver shill

>>58198275
>take 'posession' of your physical PM's in a Brinks vault in the USA
What did he mean by this? Aren't you stacking PM's in your home??

>>58198315
Only dumb people stack silver at home


Did you know there's more silver every year, just like more $ every year.....you didn't know that but that's why silver is worth less every year

>>58198294
No one is trading commodities for gold , they all use the $

>>58198315
I think the folks that are dealing in metric tonnes of precious metals can diversify. PM's are dense and have a history of going through floors.

>>58198327
People trade commodities for $ and then $ for gold.
They'll continue to do that unless the $ becomes hard to use for some reason like you turn SWIFT off for a country or you begin to make trade difficult in the $ using Anti-money laundering and other laws.

>>58195711
No, that’s Jeff.
He sold all his silver

>>58198327
You lost a gorillion dollars buying fake physical gold when you should have bought real paper gold, the US dollar

>>58198323
>Only dumb people stack silver at home
Holy shit lol. He literally lets other people keep his gold.

>>58198369
Holy shit he bought silver 4 years ago and lost 80%

Fact, according to the experts

You can keep your fake physical gold, real e_gold bitcoin is the new hotness

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/bitcoin-etf-blowout-wows-even-blackrocks-larry-fink


"In their first 30 days, the recently approved spot-based bitcoin ETFs attracted a whopping $30.6 billion. Just as staggering, it took only 57 days for these ETFs to cross $50 billion in AUM [assets under management] — a feat that took spot-based gold ETFs more than five years," noted Wells Fargo Institute’s John LaForge, head of Real Asset Strategy, and Mason Mendez, Investment Strategy Analyst,

>>58198807
Whatever blackrock is heavily involved in and has billions invested in, I want to be involved in too! It’s a no brainer.

Where is AMEX platinum anon? Remind me again how your free silver each year works?

Why would I not just use the robinhood gold card, and get a free troy ounce of gold?

Join the waitlist and sign up for robinhood gold using my link if you want to see me cut it in half and melt it down:
https://robinhood.com/creditcard?referral_code=1d760231

>>58198871
May as well be on the winning team with Blackrock.

I honestly don't understand these stacktards, they "know" that all-powerful JPMorgan, comex, the federal reserve etc are keeping silver prices low and then they buy silver and wonder why they lost 80%.....brain worms!

>>58198323
There is a hell of a lot more credit being created than silver. The money supply is exponential, silver mining not so much.

>>58192453
thats more than what i spend every month. i usually buy 10 oz of silver or so. and i have a mighty stack right now. buy more, but dont panic buy. spend what you are comfortable with, buy things that are cool. youll have a fat stack of cool coins in no time!

>>58198990
what race are you?

>>58199169
He's SEA

>>58192453
>>58192603
fractional stackers rise up

>>58199177
yeah he does seem a little more neurotic than an indian (dot). but certainly on about that intelligence level.

>>58199209
Cute gato.

>>58199230
Thank you for the compliment. You certainly are aware that Indians have the highest incomes in America of all groups and they are the smartest, running all tech companies with their hyuge IQ....Indian excellence on display! Thank you America

>>58197865
You wasted more time and comments on complaining than you would have otherwise done just by ignoring my question.

>>58199349
You’ve been here ALL night?
What the fuck is wrong with you? You actually scream into the void while everyone else sleeps soundly?

>>58195071

>>58197889
your children will thank you

Now I'm not into precious metals as a get rich quick scheme. There are a lot of videos on what gold and silver could and should be. I'll believe it when I see it. This graph is a a screenshot taken from /our Jew/ Rafi Farber. It is historical fact.
The Egyptian government recently revalued its fiat trash vs the US fiat trash. Everyone in Egypt is now poorer except for those that hold gold and silver.

Here is the chart for gold.

The breakaway become more apparent each day.
SHME (China's Comex) closed silver 11% above western spot valuation this friday, at almost $28/oz. And +1.1% for gold (which is also a pretty big deal).

The writings were on the wall for years. How many times did we talk about how smart a strategy it would be for China to price the spot slightly higher and wait for the opportunists to show up and profit from the arbitrage to vaccum all what's left of globohomo physical reserves and transfert it to China?
Now that's a reality.

China is getting the best bang imaginable for their USD, and they very well know it.
Only question in suspend is how long our banksters will allow it (unless of course they too are participating in this deal, as we know the transfert from NYC to HK already began).
You'll have to imagine triple parenthesis in my last sentences, because now the insider jannoid get me banned each time i use those.

>>58199592
>must include gold
I don’t believe this is the case for psychological reasons I stated before.
I think most of us have watched the Mark Dice videos where he offers people either a free bar of chocolate bar or a bar of silver and they always take the chocolate.
People don’t know that the dollar is basically worthless and they’re being led to accept the CBDC dollar.

>>58199607
>Everyone in Egypt is now poorer except for those that hold gold and silver.
What about people holding dollars?

>>58199599
Lmao they will toss that garbage

This is what i get banned for every 3 days. The past 2 weeks i've been banned every 3 days with the precision of a metronome.
Please can someone from the moderation team point me where i broke the rules about ""racism"" in this last ban?

Meanwhile our resident spammers are allowed to shit /pmg/ while never getting worried about any b&.

>>58199607
Few days ago i was watching vid rel about Egdypt. No wonder their fiat trash is crashing, their gubment went full retarded folie des grandeurs kek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGLWXCGvlEE

>>58199627
Nah, I'm Chinese, they are paying a premium to get out of renminbi a non convertible currency. You tards are so dumb. You pay a premium to get out of the king of currency, convertible anywhere.

>>58199738
>I'm Chinese
Yeah we can tell chang

>>58199349
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JEe1NUuDZOIi/
thank you saar

>>58199651
stacking is in the genes so no

>>58199607
yes, gold is way more important for non-americans, because dollar is already stable and backed by large gold reserves, other countries not always, but other countries have alot of commie politics so gold is even more important

>>58199673
It's pure censorship and they're not enforcing the rules appropriately. I was banned a few weeks ago just for saying I didn't report someone.

They don't want us talking about wartime conditions and how it affects stackers, they don't want us talking about the juice even in passing, they don't want us posting links to PM products, or videos about PMs...

and yet this obvious troll gets to spam his hatred against stackers and PMs all day and night here? wtf?

>58199651
>58199738

>>58199673
It really is just runaway kike censorship. I truly understand why they have been the enemy of every single civilization

>>58199738
>Nah, I'm Chinese
It's hard to track, one day you are cambodian, the next vietnamese, and today you feel like a chink?

>they are paying a premium to get out of renminbi a non convertible currency
Wait, are you saying silver is a better store of value than the RMB? Sorry but i'll have to screenshot this and rub it in your face for the next decade. Plus i'll have to tip the CCP about your unpatriotic behavior.

Paid £520 for them on eBay. Convinced they were a scam as no one was bidding. Weight/diameter match up, looks like silver, ping test, non-magnetic.

>>58198323
>>58198327
>58198620
>58198807
>58198990
Clean this shit up and please stop banning the real stackers here. Janny isn’t paying attention to who’s saying what and who’s actually contributing to the thread.

>>58199823
No, I'm saying they use it to convert out of a non convertible currency. That's why gold and silver are higher in china, they are happy to convert and lose 10% just like you are happy to convert and lose 40%

>>58199836
Sell them for a profit, post receipts then you will know

>>58199910
You are so full of shit it's just unreal kek. Even as a non-chink i know there are far more efficient ways to convert your RMB into USD if you are a chinese resident.

>>58199836
Buying that many pre-holographic Brits on Fleabay would make me nervous, but good on you.

>Silver Will Soon Catch Up and Overtake Gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-zwdMiQTWE

Trying to have patience and hold on, if I can just hold out for a bit longer.

H o l d old ld d

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>>58200178
lol i'm watching this exact video

Hello?...

Is there anybody out there?...
Am I the only one left alive here?....

>>58200327
monday then?

>>58200388
Are you me?

>>58199673
Disgusting.

these came though. first 2 rm version of this one.

>>58200473
I was banned for 30 days for posting a video game character in a video game character thread on /v/.
then i got banned for an extra week for 'evading a ban' for a post on a board i never even go to for a post that wasnt even mine.

>>58200497
did you just have amazon deliver another router before you woke up the next day?

>>58200503
no. but i've been cycling between phone posting on mobile internet, and posting from comp on home network router.

>>58200532
well when you really work them up and they ban you till july and then rangeban your phone, just order another router from prime. you can wait a day for your isp to release the ip from your old router, then you can smash the new router and have amazon give you a full refund and then continue on posting

>>58192399

>>58200456
Am I?

>58200650
Heeeee's back

>post a screenshot of a meme i liked
>jesse has a temper tantrum
>he feverishly bans and removes it
>warning for spamming? Wtf lmao
>cant get a single post in because of trannyjessejew

LMAO

>>58201063
https://files.catbox.moe/50vt0j.mp3

>>58200456
>>58200684

In 28 minutes the coin shop opens.

Legit Apu meme potential

>>58195217
>Then why does the entire world still value it above other currencies?
because the world monetary fund trapped these countries in debt bubbles that can only be repaid in USD

>>58195376
>It doesn't matter if it loses ALL value, if THEY maintain the image of value.
they will not be able to do that
trillion dollar interest payments coming due soon

>>58201477

>>58201268
My LCS was closed today :/ they're usually open for a few hours on Saturdays. I had $45 from returnables too I wanted to put towards generics along with whatever else cash I had in my wallet. Guess I'll have to stop by on Monday.
>>58201650
>trillion dollar interest payments coming due soon
I can't wait to see it happen
ヽ(´▽`)/

>>58196770
>>58196777
>>58196789
The bot really is responding to itself now

this guy never sold graded coins till recent.

https://www.ma-shops.com/nsw-leipzig/new.php?days_new=3&sort=erhaltung&desc=desc

that's a lot of nice ones in the last 3 days. this guy sells on ebay too

i like this

If you're not stacking gold and silver as part of your portfolio, you are a raging homosexual and should be thrown from a roof.

>>58197889
24.4 troy oz of gold nice

jesse the kike tranny's newest tactic is to reply to someone then ban the poster for evasion. Every time he sees a pmg meme he throws a temper tantrum. The whole thread is full of non pmg memes but he chooses to target any actual oc, likely because he is jealous of my memes.
>crypto ads: spammed
>pmg meme: jesse freaks out

>>58199607
>Now I'm not into precious metals as a get rich quick scheme.
"quick" is subjective. but we will be rich, relative to everyone else

>>58199636
you're an idiot if you think he isn't heavily editing those videos and removing the enormous amount of instances of them taking the silver

>obscure e celeb ladies allowed
>pmg meme PROHIBITED!!!
jesse is such a raging kike faggot. He is here night and day, waiting to snitch on anything i post. I barely even post anymore because hes such a janny faggot that rangevbanned me.
>example a
i brought up the crack up boom meme, jesse gets jealous, he thinks i "schooled" him so he deletes the post, next threads its all hes talking about
>exhibit b hammered coinage in the mid 1800s
He deleted my meme mentioning people hammering their own coinage, for a few threads hes brought it up now.
>jesse is a jealous gatekeeper
He is a tranny kike jew as well, and he has admitted it many times. If he were not here, the thread would have more interesting posts intstead of random bans and ipblocks. jesse, youre a turbo faggot that never sleeps.

In triple parenthesis
>they
Wish they were on my level, their constant bans are akin to fleas because they truly fear anyone actually being convinced to own silver. The gatekeepers of the threads seek to limit information and then pile on top of it iq posts, which are strangely allowed and perpetually permitted.

The bog's final ploy to destroy them

Will 3D printers get to a point where they can replicate old coins and counterfeits become indistinguishable from the originals and the numismatic market is destroyed?

>>58201650
Lmao, the silver scam victim doesn't think the FED can print more $. Kektop!

Test. Why was my post deleted?

>>58202561
no, but gen x and boomers may die off and interest in numismatics drop to zero while inventory remains the same, and the numismatic market would be destroyed

>>58201871
>someone took the time to write a bot to specifically fud silver on /pmg/
Really makes you think.

>>58202561
no

>>58202578
really cool ancient coins made of silver/gold will never be worthless

>>58202102
Based.

>>58202708
coins will never be worthless, but the prices they've commanded from the 1980's to now are a very recent, very local phenomenon caused by boomers and others with way too much money on their hands and an obsession with treasure. Boomers remember when US coins weren't graded, and were traded for a tiny fraction of what they cost now. I think we had our first million dollar coin auction in the 80's. And prices on all kinds of US coins have risen sharply since then.

This is opposed to earlier times, when people still collected coins, but were too busy trying to put food on the table and a roof over their heads to be paying for coins they want but don't need. We're one good depression away from US coins dropping by 99% in price, or simply becoming impossible to sell. Even if that never happens, the people that drove up the price will die off, are dying off right now, and new generations may not view coins as valuable or worth buying. Hard to say. They'll never be worthless, but they could easily be worth a lot less.

>>58202708
True, you can always melt old coins for scrap it has happened before and is happening now and will happen again as collectors die off and aren't replaced

>>58202754
true, i wouldn't be spending any big bucks on numis right now. would rather get more weight

>>58202783
I would hope ancients never get melted for scrap, but it is true that lots of extremely rare and valuable US coins were melted in the past.

>>58202786
Most of what /pmg/ buys has little or no numismatic value in the first place. You'd have to do like the photoanon and buy one of everything and even then only a few items out of hundreds will turn out to be great collectibles.

crypto nerds will seethe

>>58202315
40 even

>>58202333
wasted digits, very sad

>>58202786
>would rather get more weight
that's the right attitude to have imo
especially considering how difficult it'll be for zoomers to take over the boomer-dominated hobby of coin collecting

>>58203201
>especially considering how difficult it'll be for zoomers to take over the boomer-dominated hobby of coin collecting
zoomers and millenials are all set to inherit a shitload of coins, but it's doubtful they'll keep or add to the collections.
A person has to be in a very specific place financially and mentally to want to collect coins, and odds are the collections aren't going to get handed down at exactly the same time the grandkids are getting interested in coins and have the money to keep them.

Are 40% Siler Kennedy halfs even worth having? I have 3 face dollars worth and I want to fill the rest of the tube up but just doesnt seem worth doing

>>58203326
>A person has to be in a very specific place financially and mentally to want to collect coins,

Do zoomies or millennials even have that type of hobby anymore? Seems like drugs, porn and video games consumes their mind. Sure you have a few that collect funkopops or the like but even people on pmg who collect its very basic shit like collecting rounds, wagmis or those gay nazi coins. 0 attention span and no way will it get better soon, let me show you my wagmi collection is elite their nowdays.

>>58203450
I don't bother with them. I've heard it's a pain to refine the silver out at that purity anyway.

>>58203326
>zoomers and millenials are all set to inherit a shitload of coins
but odds are they're not going to keep them or care about them...

>Muh hyperflation, muh collapse, muh depressed incel.
>...I think I will start collecting rare coins from Byzantium

Said no one ever...but the obsession with common nazi coins makes sense these losers want to associate with something that was aesthetic and manly without putting in any effort

so common they're only 2 higher than a 64 lmao. hey, why don't you make a comment about why someone would want one without a windmill again. that's always pretty fun, right?

>>58203451
>Do zoomies or millennials even have that type of hobby anymore?
some do I guess.
I have 2 kids, one a millennial and one zoomer.
The zoomer recently got into searching change for errors because of youtube videos.

That's pretty much the same way I got into coin collecting, except there wasn't any youtube in the 1970's. So I guess it's at least possible that some of those guys will collect coins.

the bigger problem I see is you have to be financially stable to keep a coin collection, and I've never met a financially stable zoomer. With housing costs right now I'm not even sure it's possible. Coin collections are a luxury for people that have spare money. Zoomers aren't there yet. Might never get there.

58203643
Retard comment since it's advertised with the word "swastika"
No (you) for the JPMORGAN paid shill

>>58203451
I think the other reason to hope is zoomers and millenials are big on side hustles, and coins are a decent hustle if a person puts some time into it.

I kinda wonder how much of the trading card market is just people flipping and speculating. But that's exactly what the US coin market is. Just trading cards for boomers.

>>58203776
it's july already hey?

>>58203776
enjoy easter tomorrow with your family mentally ill faggot

>The average crypto holder on Christmas Day 2024 after the gold bugs go into a bloodthirsty feeding frenzy...

Best way to sell PMs for cash? Craigslist boomers and jeets are incredibly annoying to deal with and keep trying to lowball me when I'm happy to sell for spot.

>>58204057
Not sure where you are, but I just wander into the coin store, jewelry store, or pawn shop and they'll offer me either spot or a couple percent below. And a couple percent below is no big deal since I'd lose that much on shipping if I sold online anyways. Might lose a couple percent just by waiting a day or two. Or might gain a couple percent. Either way, not worth worrying about.

>>58204140
My problem is they consistently try to offer me 10% less than spot. I understand how their business works, so I can't exactly fault them but coin shops have never been a good place for me to sell.

>>58204151
>My problem is they consistently try to offer me 10% less than spot.
Just laugh at them and ask for spot. Most will probably give you spot or very close to it.

Of course we start with a lowball offer. Most of the time people accept it. I'll personally offer you 70% less than spot just because most the time people take it. But if I'm in a buying mood I'll pay spot.

>>58204151
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>58192399
How long until $100 Silver?
Is that when we sell?
Are we going to sell at $100?

>>58204164
>Pic related

>>58204201
What’s a white boomer, alex?

>>58204151
Boomers who run coin shops or pawn shops usually aren't very nice to other generations. It's like an unspoken tribal thing.

>>58204212
yep

>>58192399
while you fags are betting on shiny useless pieces of metal. Ill be leveraging your autism and buying silver mining stocks. While silver might double my silver stocks will 10x.

>>58204212
just taking pot shots at tim marschner now?

>>58204264
>He doesn't know about

>>58204264
>You bought silver mining stocks? Enjoy losing 80% of your investment's value when it tanks. :^)

>>58204193
nah. that's chump change. I'll sell some at $300

>>58204410
I would take the old bayhorseposting over the crypto trannies every day of the week and twice on Sundays. At least they didn't ban stackers.

>>58204455
I'd be fine with $300 Silver but it needs to happen soon.
the clock is ticking and I'm running out of options here.

>>58204193
>US Dollar devalues 400% vs silver
yeah that'll be the best time to trade my shiny rocks for green paper
why have i not seen a single headline about gold breaching ATH several times lately?

>>58204523
true, true

>>58204164
>Of course we start with a lowball offer
I can't wait for you old retards to die. No one under 40 enjoys "negotiating" prices, just give me your best price and stop wasting my time you self-important middleman.

>>58204588
>rise in silver price is equivalent to dollar devaluation.
that will serv emy purposes exactly of course.

current loan balance = $10k
currently $10k = 400 oz silver at $25 spot
if spot goes to $100.
then suddenly my $10k debt = 100 oz.

thats a win for me. if today it would take selling 400 oz to pay off debt.
but if silver is $100.oz, then i only have to sell 100 ozs to pay off $10k debt.

same applies to the $100k mortgage balance.

this scenarios will be an advantage for those of us with debt who are willing to sell silver when it moons, in order to pay off debt at a virtual discount

>>58204639
It's not for fun.

I usually don't bother with any sale where I make less than 100% profit. If I buy from you I'm doing you a favor because my other customers are paying me to.

same as any coin store. We don't make money off your bullion, we just don't lose as much money as if we didn't buy it. It's a couple bucks on the side while we're waiting for our real customers.

>>58204675
This is why other generations hate boomers.
Anon didn't say anything about "fun" and you're a dick for low-balling people which is the same thing as taking advantage of them.
>It's a couple bucks on the side
70% less than spot is a lot more than a couple of bucks moron

>>58204722
>Anon didn't say anything about "fun"
he said we enjoy negotiating

Of course people will try to lowball you. It's not illegal or immoral, and boomers certainly aren't the only ones doing it. If you don't like it either say something or if your autism prevents speech, go online and sell.
>70% less than spot is a lot more than a couple of bucks moron
I'm talking about paying spot or close to it.

I make my money off people selling for a third of spot or less. If I pay you spot I lose money.

>>58204673
sounds like you got it all figured out then fren

>>58204746
so all your money comes from ripping people off? lol

>>58204673
if silver increases in value while my debt decreases in value i'll either buy silver or pay off debt with currenct depending on which is increasing/decreasing in value faster

>>58204785
>all your money comes from ripping people off
thats the modern american way.

>>58204455
>$300
Can't ignore those digits, checked. But only $300? I'd go at a 20x for $500 but not a 12x.

>>58198323
the fuck anon do you let other men mow your lawn and fuck your wife too? of course you stack silver at home.

>>58204785
>so all your money comes from ripping people off? lol
I provide several valuable services for my cut

I have money right now, you don't have to wait 15 years for your shit to sell at full retail value

I have customers right now, so I can sell your shit in less than 15 years

I sort your shit and price it for sale

I offer a convenient single location for buying and selling

I take all the risk that comes with dealing with douchebags like yourself.

for that, I take over half of the retail value. Sometimes a lot over.

>>58204814
if silver really moons or dollars devalues dramatically, i think there will only be a relatively short window (matter of a few weeks?) to take advantage of it before it gets squelched somehow.

>>58204785
The dipshit didn't know how to produce anything creative, functional, or necessary; so he opened up an expensive pawnshop because it is easier to use your parents inheritance than working from the ground up. Most Bullion dealers are this archetype. Faggots who never moved out of their parents basement who jew the next person who is actually interested in finances or artistic expression on precious metals.

>>58204833
>I have money right now, you don't have to wait 15 years for your shit to sell at full retail value
people can sell at apmex online for a far better deal than 1/3 spot dude

>>58204840
>Most Bullion dealers are this archetype.
most bulliion dealers are coin or jewelry dealers who also happen to buy bullion.

there's no money in just buying and selling bullion unless you're selling billions of dollars a year.

>>58204833
>I take all the risk that comes with dealing with douchebags like yourself.
It is like you decided to do nothing and make money for it! You couldn't hack it in actual financial education and are so much a fucking social pariah you can't be bothered to socialize with others. Because others know how much of a mentally ill faggot you are. Bad business ethics. Your miserable existence makes more sense knowing you don't do anything of value. You are shittiest most expensive and discriminatory pawn shop ever

>>58204848
>people can sell at apmex online for a far better deal than 1/3 spot dude
yes. And they should. Often they don't feel like going to all the trouble of finding a better buyer and working with them. Most of them didn't pay for the metal in the first place, so they don't care.

>>58204864
well whatever dude. you're ripping people off. it is what it is.

>>58204859
>Bad business ethics.
Not illegal and not considered immoral in the US. If a person doesn't like my offer they're free to ask for more or go somewhere else. I'll stay in business either way, because I'm not buying coins at full retail prices. That wouldn't make me any money at all and there's no reason for me to do it.

>>58198906
>https://robinhood.com/creditcard?referral_code=1d760231
how can you get a free troy ounce of gold with this card?

>>58204833
>I have customers right now, so I can sell your shit in less than 15 years
>I sort your shit and price it for sale
>I offer a convenient single location for buying and selling
These aren't "services" my man. These are just things you do for your own benefit and the nature of the business.

I can't believe you're doubling down on this subhuman predatory mindset.

new bread
>>58204940
>>58204940
>>58204940

>>58204942
>These aren't "services" my man.
then don't sell to me. Simple as.
Plenty of other people do sell to me.

>>58204934
>Not illegal
I don't think anyone said it was.
>not considered immoral in the US
Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

Based on my interactions with coin shop owners, profit margins ARE very thin (not negative), but they don't do shit like that.

>>58204950
I'm just correcting your misunderstanding of what a service is. Maybe get off your high horse and read more carefully.

>>58204959
>profit margins ARE very thin (not negative), but they don't do shit like that.
on bullion, yes. We don't make money on bullion. If all we sold was bullion none of us would be in business.

we make money on coin collections. My average gross profit is 100%, but I can easily make ten times that every now and then.

and all of us are doing that either directly or indirectly. We don't pay full price for inventory, someone is buying it at a fraction of full value to sell to us, or we're buying it directly at a fraction of full value.

>>58204970
>I'm just correcting your misunderstanding of what a service is.
no you're just saying what you don't think service is even though lots of other people clearly consider it a service.

>>58204982
>and all of us are doing that either directly or indirectly
Nope. You can keep repeating this idea that it's OK because you're not the only one doing it but that's talmudic

you're just not a very good person and I hope you reflect tonight

>>58204996
>you're just not a very good person and I hope you reflect tonight
You've clearly never operated a business.

we don't go into business to make less than you, that's stupid. And businesses are expensive. Mine eats over half of what I make right off the top.

>>58204987
You're going to have look up what goods and services are.
Pro tip: Organizing your own inventory and having a physical location aren't "service", period. You're just wrong and need to drop your ego, listen to people who know more than you.

>>58205014
>Organizing your own inventory and having a physical location aren't "service", period.
then sell your bullion to the public and find out what exactly I'm doing for you.

most people try it and find out pretty fast. It takes forever to sell, there's a good chance you'll get robbed, and you're either traveling a lot or spending a fortune on shipping.

>>58205026
>then sell your bullion to the public and find out what exactly I'm doing for you
Dude, why are you deflecting so hard?
Stay on 1 subject like a normal adult. You talk like a politician.

Actually I don't care. It's always a waste of time to talk to narcissists. Good luck with your business.

58205026
jesse is a troll, he doesn't own a coin shop, its just another larp, he literally malfunctioned as iq earlier before going on a bnnning rampage.