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I went to the Stani/Sergey fireside chat on Monday, and talked to a lot of people. Crypto infrastructure people, BUILD program members, fund representatives.
It changed my entire attitude and I'm going to share my feelings with /biz/ as a one-off before I leave here.
Firstly, the talk itself was pretty boilerplate, Sergey and Stani softballing questions to each other and basically saying everything we've heard before. In the final part of the talk, Stani was saying that he expected it to be "5-10 years" before institutions would be seamlessly using AAVE. At this point, Sergey broke out of his stock response mode for the first time, laughed, and said (paraphrasing):
>In 2017 we thought that there were just 5 problems we had to solve, to get institutional adoption. Now all of this time later and we are seeing "Wow, there is so much more to do now than we even thought we had to do then"
It's not happening soon. Every single serious, deeply engaged person I talked to would casually say "we hope that x will be possible in 3 years or 5 years time".

Obviously this was pretty disappointing to someone who has been hoping for "two more weeks" for a very long time, but in a way it was liberating.
I realised that pretty much every insightful /biz/tard has moved on to actually get involved, run nodes, start building, etc, which is why all that's left on /biz/ are the lowest achievers. For what it's worth, the notoriety of the biz/twitter link community as "a notoriously toxic investor base" (actual quote from a builder) is something of an achievement given how generally toxic crypto is. Congratulations, incessant shitposting and hostility has not gone unnoticed. You're the worst of the worst.
1/2

>> No.58081118

I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. BUILD, by all accounts, is awesome. Extremely helpful and engaged. I'm going to keep working on my Chainlinked project and I'm going to get it into BUILD. I would suggest anyone else with a modicum of talent do the same. This inevitably means handing /biz/ and twitter over to the zero talent fudders that I can assure you everyone actually working despises.
My advice to any anon with any skill or ideas at all, start building, start actually working. Stop hoping for TONIGHT.

Of course, LINK might well pump much sooner than that, nobody can pretend to know what the markets will do in the future. But coming away from that meeting with a much stronger sense of "What if it actually does take until 2030" was a huge shift in my expectations, plans and sense of time.
To the fudders: You are universally despised and nothing but a weight and a burden on the people who are actually doing work. You should be ashamed, if you were actually capable of being so.

>> No.58081148

tl;dr

>> No.58081221

>>58081115
your passion and involvement is admirable, nonetheless, this is a fag coin

>> No.58081252

>>58081115
only a few weeks ago SN said we would see adoption this year with use accelerating upwards throughout 2025.
Doesn't seem to jive too well with your 10 year hearsay, does it?

>> No.58081255

>>58081115
nice stuff, anon

>> No.58081291

>>58081115
>>58081118
thanks for your insights anon I really appreciate it but as>>58081252 stated, a few weeks ago the whole link team talked about thr coming 10 to 24 months for huge adaption

>> No.58081313

>>58081115
>toxic investors are the reason for the bad optics!
>not year after year of self-imposed deadlines that keep getting missed, lying about usage, lying about demand
>not the unrelenting 20% inflating YOY tokenomics
>its the angry frog posters!

>> No.58081317

>>58081291
Wonder how long it took him to cook that chunk o' fud up? Took about 14 mins for it to be roundly dismantled lol. Hope it was worth it for him. Looking forward to his next one!

>> No.58081319

>>58081115
Fudders, advocates, ironic fudders and ironic advocates are all pathetic & mentally ill. Not matter what you say, no matter what you do. And no matter your (you)s. Do better

>> No.58081334

>>58081118
Of course you want to get into BUILD. You have a shit project with no revenue and you want link holders to pay for it.

We do agree on this point: every developer with two brain cells should be fleecing these idiots for everything they are worth.

>> No.58081345

Tldr - op is enraged no one new is joining his cult

>> No.58081376

>>58081252
>>58081291
I'm not saying nothing is going to happen between now and 2030. I'm just repeating Stani's observation about "institutional adoption of AAVE" as being a 5-10 year prospect, and using that as a litmus test for general market maturity.
I, as much as anyone else here, would like $1kEOY. I know what the team said about "more verticals in 2025 than mass adoption in 2026". I hope it comes true.
But that doesn't change what I heard and it doesn't change what I experienced when actually talking to people on the ground.

>> No.58081387

>>58081317
kek yeah I've found the specific interview with niki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cvXT45Fq5Y&t=58
it was some weeks ago, why the drastic change? would make no sense

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>> No.58081413

>>58081376
I can imagine they meant the whole tokenization of our financial market?
like real estate, precious metals etc
yeah I can believe that would need an other 5 years, but one can imagine what price link would have during that time

>> No.58081422

>>58081115
>>58081118

Didn't read, never buying.
2017 ICO token not needed.

>> No.58081423

>>58081118
>I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. BUILD, by all accounts, is awesome. Extremely helpful and engaged. I'm going to keep working on my Chainlinked project and I'm going to get it into BUILD. I would suggest anyone else with a modicum of talent do the same. This inevitably means handing /biz/ and twitter over to the zero talent fudders that I can assure you everyone actually working despises.
>My advice to any anon with any skill or ideas at all, start building, start actually working. Stop hoping for TONIGHT.
chainlink literally ruined thousands of toxic biztards lives lol this is amazing. you can't make this shit up, even though it was obvious to a wise man
>BUILD
anon, if every biztard went out and spun up node or redundant chainlinked dApp, it would literally make no difference. This market is over-ripened like a rotten fruit and the big boys just moved in to take everything, you really think that banks and blackrock will be waiting on these two fat crypto scammers to "solve the problems" a decade from now? They'll be replaced before that.

>> No.58081448

>>58081413
+ 0.4%

>> No.58081452

>>58081313
This. Fuck sergey and fuck his (paid) apologists.

>> No.58081454

>>58081413
I'm not selling and I'm not telling anyone to sell. I'm sharing with the few non-retards left on /biz/ what might be a reasonable timeframe for it all happening at that scale, because it literally changed how I was viewing the coming years.
Nobody here can guess when the market makers will decide to send LINK. The only way to be assured to be on it is it be in, and stay in, until it happens. And I have absolutely no doubt it will happen.
But moderating expectations and even changing your behaviour (build more, look at charts less) is solid advice in the interim period.

>> No.58081476

>>58081376
>Stani's observation
You seriously expect anyone here to believe something, nay, ANYTHING some anon claims without evidence or reasonable argument? Post evidence or stfu, you fudding nincompoop.
protip: he won't. he'll just whine about he knows what he heard and he's mr reasonable. If he gets annoyed he might change IP and tell us we're all in a cult. Yawn. Where's my 'it's all so tiresome' jpeg when i need it?

>> No.58081487

>>58081448
selam adem
I hope you are fasting khouya

>> No.58081526

>>58081118
what are you building?
i did last years hackathon and basically just made a meme project
I have no idea what to this time, i want to do a real project but i feel like i either need a 300iq and/or a phd in comp sci and finance to build anything useful. i have no idea what to do

>> No.58081541

so to summarize:
op is a fag
token not needed
LINK GO DOWN

>> No.58081542

>>58081448
Bit optimistic, no? I was thinking more like -0.4%

>> No.58081605

I know CL already has lots of partners but have they ever considered partnering with Gamestop? Together their communities could form a supercult that may be capable using their pooled resourced of overthrowing the conspirators preventing imminent price appreciation

>> No.58081606

>>58081454
Anyone who simply listens to Sergey already knew that he is very clearly trying to tell us that we are holding vaporware that "might" do something in 5-10 years.
>>58081526
anons building shitty dApps ain't sending this shit to $50, I'm telling you retards - crypto is gambling, crypto is PvP - holding top coins by mcap is almost entirely sunk cost fallacy at this point, you're more likely to round trip when we top at $80 than to make a millie which will be happening left and right with doggy coin investors on sol tossing 1k-10k around. If you hold low-mid six figs worth of link, Sergey is literally doing laps on you and taking the piss out - he doesn't give a fuck that it might actually be ruining your life prospects. Stop being attached to shit if you want to actually make it, at this point this is a competition to escape 4chan and twitter, the biggest reward of making it will be to never look back at these shitty post-internet communities.

>> No.58081655

>>58081454
No offense, because i genuinely agree with you, but people back in 2018 and 2017 were saying me included, that it could realistically be 2025-2028 before we see institutional usage.
there were quite a few anons back then saying that and they all got hated on. those hating on it then are the dregs still hanging around here.
Its pretty obvious those with NOTHING going on in their lives, who viewed LINK as their salvation by getting wealthy are the ones that are hanging around with various flavours of mental illness.
Nobody else would have the tenacity and time to spend all day whining, fudding, obsessing over community made dashboards like the CCIP revenue one (it makes me laugh how much fudders latch on to it, and how much the mentally ill LINK defense force arguing about it).
As you said, both the "advocates",
fudders, spammers etc are all the same type of people expressing their mental illness. even the XRP tier conspiracy faggots who latch on to BTC suppression(even if it may be observable somewhat) and treat any discussion on it that isnt full blown conspiracy acknowledgement as a glowie or something. they are the same as the cuck spamming fudders.
They are all people who bet their lives on LINK and have no jobs, or nothing going on for them at least, or at best stopped trying in life completely the past few years believing LINK was going to make them rich by now. both shillers and fudders.
Sensible people as you said, have either got involved, or have plenty of other things keeping them busy. That has left this place left only with the type of people described and there is no discussion to be had. same with twitter from what i can observes as someone who doesnt use it.

It's only losers left, arguing with each other, some are defeatist and fud and have anger, others are the same but choose to defend it vehemently. neither have anything going for them in life, clearly. or they would not spend their days repetitively doing what they do here

>> No.58081776

>>58081655
you're replying to yourself, faggot nigger aids

>> No.58081834

>>58081454
You seem fixated on when this will reach full market saturation.

>> No.58081900

>>58081834

this. soft fud.

This is akin to saying the Bitcoin ETFs dont matter because it will take 10 years for 99% of people to own some Bitcoin, when in actuality if even 2% of people own Bitcoin globally then that alone would cause a massive supply crunch.

I am so grateful i have been on 4chan for 10 years and can see right through you

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>>58081655
agree. Ngl, these last weeks I've been thinking more and more about launching a crypto project, not a scam coin but trying to actually release something useful.
I'm fortunate to still be under 24 and I don't have a ginourmous link stack, just barely 2k in the staking pool so that and now with OPs thread, that kinda really gives me the push to just start building

>> No.58082077

>>58081900
>I am so grateful i have been on 4chan for 10 years and can see right through you
ikr? it's so obvious when you've been on here for a long time. The wall of concerned effortblogposting, all for our benefit.
>moderating expectations and even changing your behaviour
oh, he just cares so much for our feelings! he really must be genuine! what a lovely, caring individual, i bet he volunteers at a dog rescue center when he's not in here looking out for our financial 'feelings'. what a wonderful, caring man.
kek what a tosser

>> No.58082171

>>58081115
I have no talent. That's why i'm a trader. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I'll be dumping the last dregs of link i have left into APU

>> No.58082211

>>58081115
I don't think you're right.

>> No.58082222

>>58081118
>My advice to any anon with any skill or ideas at all, start building, start actually working. Stop hoping for TONIGHT.


This was my takeaway from attending Smartcon 2022 way back. The industry and Chainlink are so tiny that you have to build it yourself if you want to make it. That being said, I still haven't made found a job in the industry and honestly, I'm not applying anymore. I have a project I got a contract to work on and I'm going to turn it into a Web3 project in the future.

But I will be burning some staking rewards to go to Smartcon 2024.

>> No.58082234

>>58082222
Checked

>> No.58082241

>>58081118
Price bad

>> No.58082287

>>58081118
Hey, anon. You're in London, right? why don't you prove it by writing today's date on a piece of paper and photograph with a view outside? No need to dox your location, just a view that establishes you're in UK, at least? cars, street signs etc? should take you less time than it did cooking up your essay.

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>>58081115
Don't you think it's possible Sergey was relating in a sort of offhandish advisory/mentorish way speaking from past experiences? I'm not saying you're wrong but that's how I read your quote. Other anons are mentioning some recently mentioned 1.5 year timeline apparently announced by the team recently. Probably will be set back but given all that I don't think SN was hinting at anything.

>> No.58082305

>>58081115
>>58081118
I thought you actually had something useful to say but it was classic advocate gaslighting. A lot of people already put their hard earned money into this, they literally don’t need to do any more than that, the project deserves all the fud it gets until it actually delivers some modicum of the value it promised

>> No.58082321

>>58081115

The FUD has evolved into "you are right about everything but its not happening for years" now.

You should build though that part is true but the best lies always are coupled with some truth.

Crypto is still on cyclical speculative phases. Current functionality has little bearing on price action with the exception of marketing purposes where narratives can be created to sell to retail.

>> No.58082347

>>58082305
>until it actually delivers some modicum of the value it promised
On the one hand, even with everything Link has going on right now it should be rank 3-4 at least.

But on the other hand, Chainlink themselves seem to be doing everything they can to deflate any positive sentiment.
I mean, our guy went all the way to London for two talks, and all he did was repeat what they've been spamming on twitter every day.

>> No.58082351

>>58082321
You're right, you should buy more :).

>> No.58082397

>>58081313
Kek this. Op is a buffoon and a HUGE faggot. Coming from someone who flew to the first two SmartCon, talked with the same people, and realize there’s been a metric shit ton of boy who cried wolf from that entire team. I would call OP an apologist but that’s too polite. When you invest your money into the staking pool because of build rewards, extra services secured by staking, and promise of things like GMX fees, the last thing you want to hear is “fuck off we are building”. It’s my money you fucking cretin. How much have you personally invested? People like you are why link is $17, there’s no accountability and this is the same guy that said ccip was coming “in the coming year” back in 2021. The same guy who said we are about to go vertical back in 2022. The guy who said if you aren’t on board you’ll be left behind, only to get left behind by the weight of the market. OP, kys

>> No.58082399

>>58082347
>went all the way to London for two talks
You have no idea what else he got up to in London, the financial capital of the world. Pretty naive of you to think it was just those chats

>> No.58082441

>>58082399
lmao

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>>58082287
>tfw running errands for sullen holders who resent me for sharing the only first-hand information this board has seen in a year

>> No.58082481

>>58082347
They are never turning around sentiment until they can deliver some price action. It really is as simple as that. I’m not even a fudder here, it’s just the facts of what the situation is.

>> No.58082492

>>58082461
Ok I believe you're in London but it's still fud.
Post sharpie in pooper

>> No.58082512

>>58082481
>until they can deliver some price action
God I love this "Sergey must raise the price of token" pajeetery.
Bless your heart, Ranjut.

>> No.58082534

>>58082512
>ranjut
kek, good spot. i also liked his
>it’s just the facts of what the situation is
only a jeet could come up with something like that

>> No.58082559

>>58082461
> link investor has to take the bus around
Yep that checks out

>> No.58082574

>>58082512
>>58082534
It would actually help you to be more sincere and enjoy the fud than to be passive aggressively say you enjoy it. But I do like hearing that you’re at least trying to adapt to it. Now get to work and push the price up

>> No.58082594

>>58082574
>to be passive aggressively say

Best English in hole village

>> No.58082616

>>58082594
He's still going strong. Must have had an extra roti with his tandoori this morning

>> No.58082652

>>58082461
thanks for sharing, anon. my timeline has always matched up with what you're saying. i got my dad into LINK early 2018, and he's always jokingly asking me when he'll have his 9 figures, and my answer has always been 2030. he just has to live that long to see it.

>>58082481
>turning sentiment around
anyone who thinks the sentiment around link is negative obviously lives on social media, where absolutely nothing is real.

>> No.58082689

>>58082594
You can get some of the negativity out of your system now, but tomorrow there will be more fud. And the day after. Find a better way to deal with it and preferably not in a way that makes Sergey look bad. He works with a lot of pajeets

>>58082652
>where absolutely nothing is real
On the contrary, perception is more real than reality and that’s been proven at least for the internet for some time now. The team wouldn’t need to manufacture so much media if it weren’t

>> No.58082736

>>58082689
last year
>chainlink don't do enough marketing
this year
>chainlink only do marketing because perception is more than reality
i wonder what rashpoop will be saying next year

>> No.58082742

>>58082287
That is NOT an option because, well its just not, okay?

>> No.58082744

>>58081115
>>58081118
>2030
This meme date will fail, just like all of the others.
The solution is to become a financially secure boomer.
Just put in the effort, and be born earlier in life.
Then you can confidently tell people that you don't mind waiting years for LINK to moon; you don't have a worry or concern in the world; you're at maximum comfiness levels holding LINK; you have so much money that you just forget you own LINK until it moons.
It's really just that simple.
Just be rich and you'll stop caring about when LINK moons.
There's a couple of regular posters on /biz/ who have already achieved this.
Learn from their example, and then you too can make smug and dismissive comments towards other anons complaining about LINK not mooning yet.
It's easy to have faith in LINK and to know what you hold.
Just be rich.
Then you can say that all of the fud comments mean we are even closer to mooning.

>> No.58082767

>>58082744
i mean, this is true except rather than just be rich, you just need to be smart. because if you're smart, you can easily become rich. and if you're not, then, well, you can't.

So yeah, 2030 is fine by me

>> No.58082776

>>58082744
It’s worse than that, some of the people fervently defending it more than likely have the lowest stacks.

>> No.58082818

>>58082689
>there will be more fud
>Find a better way to deal with it
Oh good, I'm now embroiled in some kissless virgin's autistic revenge fantasy.

>> No.58082841

>>58082818
Bro, you can project all you want, make up whatever fantasy straw man to attack but that is not going to change the situation. That’s all I’m saying. If your attitude is what an actual advocate’s attitude actually is right now, then how can anyone from the outside judge the sentiment as other than low right now? Lmao I mean really

>> No.58082846

>>58082742
he did it, though >>58082461

>> No.58082872

>>58082841
>If your attitude is what an actual advocate’s attitude actually is right now
This is gold. This based rickshaw driver should write a novel

>> No.58082883

>>58081115

mildly effort fud

here's your "you"

>> No.58082887

OP seems like an unironic midwit.
The very first step of BTC ETF being approved just happened and you somehow expected for institutions to use AAVE in just a few months time from that? lmao

I mean even Sergey himself has said this countless times by now, firstly it's just about institutions using their own private chains first and foremost, they won't even get near any public chain until absolutely every single legal/identity/privacy question is completely resolved and in the clear. Them using public chains is the end stage, not the first damn step.

>> No.58082903

>>58082872
There’s a reason you’re not being addressed.

>> No.58082908

>>58082767
>just be rich and smart
gotcha anon, thank you for your invaluable insights on the matter

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>>58082351
You should have sex

>> No.58082951

>>58082903
was this for me?

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>>58082841
>You darn advocates haven't heard the last of me!

>> No.58082968

>>58082846
:o its over just sold everything

>> No.58082973

>>58081118
What you are going to do is get fucking rekt on opportunity cost with your LINK bags and cope about it.

>>58081526
Instead of trying to think of something useful, your dapp can come up with a solution in search of a problem which does not need to be decentralized!

>> No.58083023

>>58082887
And of course, they’d be using CCIP among themselves, but we’ve gone from “very early” to “indefinite” general access quite quickly for whatever reason. Personally I’ve written it off for the entire year as I’m pessimistic with their timelines in general, but I hope AAVE and other crypto native entities hop on and it at least helps drive us back to ATHs by end of year. But we’ll probably still be losing even more ground against bitcoin

>> No.58083026

>>58082968
I've spent the last half hour tempering my expectations

>> No.58083100

>>58082397
I should dig up that one Nintendo investor Relations transcript of one guy bitching about the questions always revolving around games and Nintendo doing cool shit and not having more questions about getting the stock price up. Cause that's what you sound like to me, someone who missing out on the bigger picture.

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>>58081115
My question is why is your opportunity limited to a Chainlink horizon? Why does everyone who comes within a mile of Chainlink have the hooks sunk so far in them that the best alternative they can come up with to holding and weathering a dawdling LINK is something else which is also related to Chainlink? Talking of pennies dropping, my building a significant position in other tokens - namely SOL, INJ, FET - thank god, has borne fruit. FET gave me my first 10x since LINK reached around $10. That kind of thing is still possible in this market. I'll never, ever forgive myself for the opportunity I've squandered to date. I hope LINK at least gives another precursory move so I can offload more. I've made far too big of a proportion of the ROI from my original bag by holding other tokens for just a matter of months for me ever to see this project the same way again. Any time I voice this of course all I get back is any number of a litany of the most retarded, desperate excuses and conspiracy theories imaginable, which so clearly reek of ego insulation from anons who obviously recognise they've made a huge financial mistake but don't have the maturity to admit it. In other words, if I saw this whole thing as a relationship, this BPD bitch has strung me along for long enough. Good luck anons, no matter your choices.

>> No.58083173

>>58083100
>hurrr you sound dumb durr muh Nintendo derp depr
that complaint would make sense if Nintendo had kept teasing retail for brand new consoles/franchises and never delivering on them, instead of what it actually is
there is simply no comparison and this is one of the dumbest things a Chainlink apologist has ever said on this board, seriously congrats on this

>> No.58083174

>>58083126
Pity the pool's still closed, isn't it?

>> No.58083218

>>58083174
Why do you tards always play dumb about the price action? Like it's inconceivable someone's been pushed away from LINK because of its measurable, objective underperformance. Like I'm stuck outside in the cold, bitter and Grinch-like, just dying to leap into an alt which has underperformed since August 2020 and is crumbling in sats but somehow still haven't gotten my buy price.

Opportunity abounds but it's a fleeting gift. You can sit there stubborn but you risk paying the same price we all did in 2021, but you'll be without an excuse this time.

>> No.58083232

I don't see why anything OP posted is important, its just what everyone already knew. True institutional adoption is probably 5 years minimum away, you'll see small pockets of it over the interim, and if you're staring at a chart the whole time you'll probably go crazy. That's not saying link can't have an eth 2017 style run at some point either, it can, but its not going to be something you can easily predict or call because if it were, the run wouldn't happen.

>> No.58083250

>>58083218
>like, like, like
anon you type like a woman. Go play shitcoin casino, its what you were born for.

>> No.58083288

>>58083250
Read more books you fucking pleb. "Like" used as a simile which you can substitute with "as if" versus "um, like, totally" aren't the same things.

If it is a casino, it's paying pretty well.

>> No.58083306

>>58083218
>risk
dude, i'm retired and living off Link rewards. I'm by no means rich yet but i don't have to work ever again and i'm confident i'll be pretty wealthy in the future. Why the fuck would i risk that to go and squander money on something far, far riskier?
Because you can't stop crying? You're not cut out for this, my friend. Go away.

>> No.58083320

>>58083288
You stupid fucking nigger, also casinos are zero sum games, you aren't an insider which makes you a mark, have fun.

>> No.58083332

>>58081115
duh
I mean it's pretty obvious this whole crypto/blockchain space is literally 90% scams, 9% casino, 1% PoCs
there is a high chance it'll change at some point the future but likely not this decade
that being said the adoption would have been much faster if blockchain projects like ethereum or chainlink delivered on their promises. sergey is wasting time doing fireside chats with literal nobodies while the company he runs keeps hiring people and dumping their token reserved but product development is almost at a standstill. they hide behind "muh security and audits" but they've been working on this for 7 years and half of the MVP they defined in the whitepaper isn't even done

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>>58083306
Oh, you again. "Retired". I think you misspelled "retarded". Honestly, who the fuck do you think you're kidding? Even if you were retired, it has no bearing on the current situation of the rest of the board. You read my post suggesting others who are focused on making it and (actually) retiring might look elsewhere, then decide to take it personally despite your happy retirement, then feel compelled to respond just to let me know my suggestion doesn't specifically apply to you because you're "retired"? Kek, okay, thanks, good to know. That doesn't have any relevance to someone trying to achieve financial freedom. What an absolutely bizarre little trail you've taken this conversation.

>> No.58083362

>>58081291
>the whole link team talked about thr coming 10 to 24 months for huge adaption
With the Bitcoin halving right around the corner and an inevitable altseason to follow, that is very convenient. Talk themselves up right before the bullrun but of course they’ll only begin to see results after the bullrun is already over. One more cycle of false hope and luring in a new batch of gullible people to dump on

>> No.58083394

>>58083320
Cool, I'm actually making money. I'm making hay while the sun shines, you should try it. Your posts are the absolute peak of the LINK cuck meme. You effectively stated everyone should be prepared to wait "5 more years" and ignore all the green candles popping off everywhere, the brief time in the market 10xs can be made in a matter of months which isn't guaranteed to last or ever return. Nevermind all that. Hold for 5 more years. Go through it again like you did in 2021. You're one of these delusional stalkers roaming this board who've retconned themselves into thinking that's why they arrived here for, that that was the expectation all along, that when they bought 5, 6, 7 years ago they hoped all starry-eyed that they'd still be holding in 2024, that it'd be $17 today. You fool absolutely no one.

>> No.58083425

>>58083394
No, what I actually said was
>have fun
Play the shitcoin casino, I'm sure you're winning and will continue to win.

>> No.58083431

>>58083361
Ooh the angry fudder. We'd best all sell our Link stacks this time. Don't want him to stamp his feet in a puddle. And he doesn't believe i'm retired! Whatever am i to do? I so need him to believe me! Oh, please say you'll believe me, mister fuddy!
This guy is so shit at this lol

>> No.58083468

>>58083394
>You effectively stated everyone should be prepared to wait "5 more years" and ignore all the green candles popping off everywhere, the brief time in the market 10xs can be made in a matter of months which isn't guaranteed to last or ever return.
Anon, most linkies have other assets. Just because we're excited about LINK and post about it all the time doesn't mean we think buying other cryptos is a bad idea (it's a good one). You're either arguing in bad faith or you know very little about the people you're lecturing.

>> No.58083473

>>58083425
No, you stated everyone should be prepared to wait 5 years then spazzed out with a series of insults to my suggestion that there are other options besides the miserable neverending masochism you're advocating. You just cannot stand to admit you're not where you wanted to be by now and you want others to be as miserable as you are because you're a weak pussy loser. Many such cases.

>> No.58083503

>>58083473
No, what I said was go play the casino. I don't care what you or anyone else does. What infuriates you is that you can't form a consensus because that's the only way you can make decisions, it makes you seethe that everyone can't just agree link is a failed project and everyone should join you in exodus. Very reddit of you.

>> No.58083577

>>58083431
Boring, pissweak reply. I'll take the W.

>>58083468
If you think buying other cryptos is a good idea, what is it you think we disagree on? That anon characterised the opportunity elsewhere as the "shitcoin casino". It's the exact same legitimate "fud" that you saw years ago that suspends people's agency or characterises any other option but LINK as voodoo. The fact is, in these conditions, it isn't the "casino" you people make it out to be. You act like you've found the promised land of guaranteed returns while all your token does is lock away capital that could be used to fund your actual freedom and capitalise on real opportunity.

That just takes us right back to the original point I made before you three fucking dumbasses went around the carousel with your pointlessly defensive replies, which is my contesting OP's point that the only option effectively to cope with this PA is to "build" when opportunity abounds elsewhere which can help you achieve the profit you came to this shithole to find in the first place.

>> No.58083604

>>58083503
Uh, no, you literally said people should be prepared to wait 5 more years: >>58083232, then characterised my fairly innocuous point that immediate opportunity abounds elsewhere as the "shitcoin casino". We can read between the lines. You're just backpedalling.

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>>58082559

>> No.58083674

>>58081313
>toxic investors are the reason for the bad optics!
Yes. People that actually build shit don't care as much about missed "deadlines" as someone who is literally waiting for something to moon to be able to pay next month's rent. These projects can already integrate CCIP anyway by applying. The whole space is maturing very slowly while more and more infrastructure is being built and tested. When one of these pieces of infrastructure is delay it's neither catastrophic nor unexpected. Look at ETH for example.

A community as toxic as LINK's however...

>> No.58083686

>>58083604
Anon, that's what it is, a casino. I'm not even saying you didn't win, maybe you did, but for a casino to function the majority of people have to be losers. Which is fine, that's what crypto is right now, and if people want to take their chance, good for them. You want to be a realist about link and upset about the fact you haven't made it yet
( >>58083473 this post was some of the strongest projection I've ever seen), but an idealist about the rest of crypto? What's wrong with being a realist about all of it, link is a disappointment for anyone that thought they were going to make it like early eth/btc buyers, and the rest of it is a casino designed to milk retail. That's the honest assessment. Doesn't change the fact you could still get lucky in the casino, doesn't change the fact link can still achieve its goals and have its run. You seem upset you can't form a consensus here on what should be done, I don't care what people do, some are going to continue to hold link, some are going to play the casino, some are going to move on from crypto entirely. I do still enjoy talking about crypto personally, which is why I'm still here.

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>>58081115
THIS
Sergey hates those who invested into his project

>> No.58083741

>>58083577
Me being financially secure forever I guess is a bit boring, but i'd take it any day over your dynamic gambling career. Stay poor, fella

>> No.58083742

>>58081115
I've had the opposite reaction, really. My exposure to the inner workings of Chainlink have shown me how centralized most of these projects are, and while certainly Chainlink is the best and most principled provider of these services, there's a reason they dropped "trustless" for "trust-minimized". The oracle problem can't really be solved. Digital identity is an unsolvable problem. Most of the things being worked on are unsolvable problems, it will just take a few years of hardheaded work before they come to the same conclusions they've already drawn about other similar problems. Bottom line is that there is always going to be demand for these services, because without them "defi" just doesn't work outside of simple swaps. And Chainlink will fill that niche, and bridge the gap between blockchain and legacy messaging services. But it's hard to get excited about it on a technical level, compared to how I felt when I was just starting

>> No.58083789

>>58081118
Every LINK fudder on biz is holding stinkies themselves. They’re just bored. If you think it’s any more than that then you may just be schizophrenic my friend

>> No.58083807

>>58082351
>You're right, you should buy more :).

I am and have already accumulated my bags

>> No.58083809 [DELETED] 

I wrote some of my thoughts, but 4chan ate the post, and while I was writing it I clearly should have been selling instead, because the market is now tanking

>> No.58083854

>>58083686
Sorry, which is it, pleb? Do you agree that opportunity abounds elsewhere and diversification at a minimum is a great idea? (In which case, why would anything in my two posts prior to your interjection offend you to the point of spastication?) Or is it all just a shitcoin casino as you originally said? Because you're trying desperately to play both sides of that fence which leaves you with absolutely zero point and zero standing in this argument. Your position isn't even coherent.

All your posts are still available for everyone to read through. You literally came into the conversation and for no reason said I should just go play the shitcoin casino then called me a nigger, now you're trying to sound like the sage voice of reason. You can pretend all you like that you're not massively disappointed and too weak to act on it but your posts aren't hard to read into. You are wilfully ignorant of the fact that so long as you're in before the crowds, you're probably fine. It's not complicated. You can have a modest winning strategy. Just because you're an impotent loser and too gutless to try doesn't mean the rest have to be as miserable as you - which is exactly the point I made in that post you're insisting is projection. This is the kind of "beta" logic masochists like you will use to justify stapling your ballsack to something like LINK and hoping that over a long enough horizon it'll all work out instead of capitalising on opportunity. It's a loser's mentality. I said it very differently in my original post but you've decided to overreact as you did so I'm saying it like this now.

>> No.58083890

but it would be easier to build if i had a million dollars

>> No.58083904

>>58083741
It's boring because you skirted the point that your alleged "retirement" was not even slightly pertinent to the conversation at hand yet you still felt it necessary to mention, even when absolutely no one believes you, and instead went with "ooh angry fudder". Uh, gay. Thanks though. Stay larping, fella

>> No.58084055

>>58083904
>absolutely no one believes you
you mean you're pretending not to believe me, when in fact everyone knows you do, but you just can't handle the idea. cope on, baby :)

>> No.58084064

full adoption is like a decade+ away
doesn't mean adoption isn't happening soon

>> No.58084096

>>58084055
Your larp appears to being growing arms and legs. Larper gonna larp, I guess. Regardless of any of that, it is still unarguably irrelevant to the point at hand, not the first time you've shoehorned it in one of these conversations and I'm sure not the last, yet never once relevant nor does it change the trajectory or outcome of the argument :)

>> No.58084139

>>58083854
ouch

>> No.58084232

>>58081118
Kek, I browse this board out of habit now since there is almost nothing worthwhile to read here. I agree with you, going to these events and actually talking with people who build shit shifts your mentality. It's a much more rewarding path than just drowning in misery and behaving like a psycopath.

Fudders stay seething.

>> No.58084276

oof marines the dream is over

>> No.58084331

>>58084096
>nobody on /biz has a large link stack staked
pretty tough sale you have there, my dude lol

>> No.58084345

>>58081115
others have said it already but yes the years spend here prepared us perfectly to see right through this attempt thats at least way more effort than the average days fudposting
two remarks tho

yes full institutional adoption is years away, however if you wait that long to buy in links price will be way way higher than it is today, financial markets price things based on future expected revenue not present day proven revenue
thats one of the first things to learn if you want to make money trading stocks

second nobody that even casually comes here would ever group us with the twatter fucksticks, whatever we do i mostly confined to 4chan itself, most real anons dont actively post on twitter
that is its own independent swamp of excrement somehow worse than us so never group anons together with the paid for fudsister warehouses

that along with their lose approach to timing deadlines is real criticism you can throw at sergeys feet: not fighting back when obvious paid for malicious forces are attacking you specifically

>> No.58084376

>>58083173
Thank you. Nintendo actually released their fucking products. I’m waiting on my build rewards, even one of them, there’s close to 100 for fuck sakes. I’m waiting on deco, waiting on a real company to utilize functions, waiting on ccip that doesn’t cost me $70 to use. Waiting on anything to happen with these fucking guys besides “hehe q1 2024, whoops we deleted that post what do you mean with your made up dates?” gaslighting

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>>58084331
Playing dumb is a much better choice for your character. Good job.

OP's point was that, as he considered how to cut his time before a potential 5+ year delivery timeline, he should or must build. That's fine, it's his reaction. My original reply was simply to say that diving deeper into the rabbithole isn't the only option. The other alternative is to seek greener pastures, which to anyone on green pastures themselves isn't actually offensive because it's so plainly logical, yet you said "pity the pool's closed", suggesting indeed you were offended and indeed not on green pastures. You then decided to share completely irrelevant observations about your personal situation, namely your retardation, uh, sorry, "retirement". That has no bearing on the question of how people should get their share of the precious, fleeting opportunity in the immediate term which you balked at for no good reason.

The best part of all of this of course is that my first post already mentioned that all you lot ever give back when I express that LINK's PA is dogshit is "ego insulation from anons who obviously recognise they've made a huge financial mistake but don't have the maturity to admit it". Your reflexive shoehorning that you're retarded, sorry, retired and therefore individually made the correct call however many years ago, even when it's completely irrelevant to a conversation about today's prospects and opportunity and no one cares or believes you is, exactly, ego insulation.

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>>58083218
good post

>>58083232
>That's not saying link can't have an eth 2017 style run
how can you even type that with a straight face

>>58083674
>build shit
where is it? A goddamn test version while 2nd in command goes on a book tour. It's beyond laughable people here compare to Amazon. Could you imagine Bezos stalling development to write a fantasy incel novel.

Here's what the community thinks about that. We need 100x more of this. On every single CL tweet. Fuck them

>> No.58084489

>>58084412
>LINK's PA is dogshit
>made a huge financial mistake
anons bought link early and could have made a 300x last cycle
if they sold or not is up to anons themselves but links pa was certainly not dogshit and definitely not a huge financial mistake
but then again every fudsister that comes in here just casually assumes link only started trading on august 2020, interesting that they pick that date when link memeposting was hitting its stride in mid 2018

but the rest what you said is accurate if you diversified a bit then you dont care at all if it takes 5 years from hrere

>> No.58084510

>>58081115
new iphone?
I didnt ask tho

>> No.58084568

does anyone here have any high conviction plays outside of BTC/ETH for a 5-10x? I'm ready to diversify some.

>> No.58084577

>>58084464
Those fudfags all stake link

>> No.58084663

>>58084464
>how can you even type that with a straight face
correct me if im wrong but eths initial run wasn’t based on fundamentals but rather it being access to the world’s first crypto casino
bnb copied this last cycle, and sol is doing the same this cycle
if ccip enables the first crosschain casino, why can’t the same thing happen to link? this won’t be a good fundamentals pump and it’ll crash miserably in the bear when nobody’s gambling, but it can still be a catalyst for a 50-100x in the bull

>> No.58084676

>>58084412
It really irritates you that i'm retired, doesn't it?
RETIRED
i bet when you're brushing your teeth tonight it'll be on your mind, won't it? I'm manifesting it. Think about me, retired and never having to work again. Think about what i have that you'll never have, and let it eat away at you. Come back tomorrow and get angry all over again.
Never forget; I'm retired, and you're not. Such a shame.
lol

>> No.58084698

>>58084663
>and it’ll crash miserably
thats even better tho, gives us another opportunity to triple or quadruple our stacks
or take profit and solve the lambo problem for those so inclined

>> No.58084732

>>58084577
they are more or less unofficially part of the chainlink public relations sphere. their job is to gatekeep normies and lower the level of public discourse with meaningless softball spam that makes anyone who criticizes chainlink look like a lunatic. they'll use alts to bury legitimate criticism

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Remember, every. single. post.... let the scam artists know this is NOT acceptable

>> No.58084780

>>58082461
>58082461
I can tell you're a delusional faggot just by your hands. STFU and quit spreading your intellectual delusion.
in 2017-2018 Link was gonna be $1000, EOY.... these posts were posted daily.
Now it's 2030? LOL, frankly i think Link bit on more than they can chew and it is too hard for them to actually implement their system in the real world.

Also at the end of the day, people are in crypto to make money you faggot. How do they make money with Serg dumping to pay 200 engineers yearly? The token is price controlled

>> No.58084806

>>58084698
true
and before someone says “casinos been done”, sure but it still works all that matters is liquidity
bnb drained eth liquidity due to cheaper (albeit centralized) transactions, sol did the same this cycle
ccip crosschain probably won’t have cheaper transactions but it will have a unique position as the only viable crosschain casino, with access to the greatest potential amount of liquidity in the space

>> No.58084839

>>58084676
what did you retire from and how much are you worth? Sounds like you're doing FIRE (you mentioned above not being rich)?

>> No.58084867

>>58081376
5-10 years for seamless integration "one internet of contracts" is nothing new. This doesn't mean we won't see CCIP being used by institutions for their private networks before then

>> No.58084880

>>58084776
this is stupid because it is superficial. by design this messaging doesn't address actual technical issues

>> No.58084886

>>58084806
someone fud me on why ccip crosschain casino won’t work, im serious. i feel like all other link talk is a distraction and this is going to be the real narrative this cycle, link can’t discuss or push it because its just enabling more ponzi style activity, whales anticipating it won’t push it until the casino opens just like they fudded eth mercilessly in 2016

>> No.58084897

>>58084839
read my previous posts and all will be revealed, my fellow financial concernee

>> No.58085028

>>58084780
>How do they make money with Serg dumping to pay 200 engineers yearly?
first it was laugh at the two man team and one is a philosophy major
now the fud has turned to they cant hire 200 actual senior devs nooo
do these people really think anyone with a brain takes them seriously or isnt completely aware of what concern trolling is

>> No.58085039

>>58084464
>Here's what the community thinks about that.
>Toon Chainlink, Thomas, Apeyieldgod, Beast
MARGE, I THINK I'VE GOT BINGO

>> No.58085089

>>58084886
the idea of a "crosschain casino" is silly and I'm not sure why it exists. can you articulate why you believe crosschain functionality would make a dogcoin more attractive, as opposed to the current system where people can just bridge eth to wherever the dogcoin is and buy it?

>> No.58085141

>>58085089
using bridges is annoying and shitty for one thing

>> No.58085298

>>58081115
It's over.

>>58081118
I would advise people too heavily invested to do the opposite.
Build something that does not depend on Chainlink to reduce your dependency on this project.
In general you should never invest in less than 3 projects.
Avoid Chainlink and anything associated with it like the plague and build something valuable that will survive even Chainlink going bankrupt.
Only in this situation will you be able to prosper in life and may appreciate the future success.

>> No.58085724

>>58082397
are you working on some material for when BUILD rewards start dropping for Link stakers?

>> No.58085783

>>58085298
>Build something that does not depend on Chainlink to reduce your dependency on this project.
your choices are:
1. new doggie coin
2. new NFT of cartoon butts
that is all

>> No.58085808

>>58084376
Exactly. Maybe the build rewards will actually be worth something juicy, but who knows when the fuck we'll actually get anything

>> No.58086003

>>58081115
thanks for the post
i worked a lot on my project last year with your exact mindset
but have been distracted in early bull.. just too easy to make money trading crap
but will go back to project

>> No.58086007

>>58085783
Why are crypto scams the only thing you can think of?
Why not build something in the real world that does not rely on blockchains and learn to appreciate the physical world?

>> No.58086039

>>58085298
>i would advise
funny how financial advisors always need to tell everyone what they think, and the ones who do it for a living even need to work

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>>58086007
because crypto scams are the only thing i care about i don't give a flying monkey's arse about building anything in the real world that doesn't involve blockchains i like being in my echo chamber where every single one of my stupid ideas is deemed
>to the moon
because i can use my massive penis to shill my bullshit to a bunch of virgin incel faggots who get off on the thought that one day they can become super hot chads like me so why dont you just shut the hell up and go get some bitches on your dick pal

>> No.58086209

>>58086007
just making a point that crypto is useless without chainlink
i agree doing something outside crypto is healthy, especially these days

>> No.58086529

>>58081115
>>58081118
Did anyone ask of / when link will break it's ath?

>> No.58086678

>>58081606
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bj4uiy/the_real_meme_coin_winners_and_why_retail_is_left/

>> No.58086741

>>58082397
>its my money
Ok then withdraw it. Dude, no one with link bags enjoys this piss poor performance. But bitching on top of bitching isnt doing anything but seeming whiney. Do you think the team doesnt know everyone is pissed abt the rewards among everything else? Do you think your post accomplishes anything than a little steam being released from you?
If you dont want to wait the ridiculous additional ten years on what amounts to a possibility of a return and not a guarantee then sell now before we go lower or wait in the hopes we hit 20 again or slightly higher. Do it for your own mental health. Otherwise realize that the team clearly doesnt care and be content to fund that attitude on a possibility like my dumb ass.

>> No.58086748

>>58085089
Bridges are gay and add like half an hour of lag instead of "buy this coin now i dont care what chain its actually on not my problem"

>> No.58086797

>>58086678
I guess I shouldn't be shocked that even after all this time, the most elementary scams have only become more successful

>> No.58086856

>>58086748
ccip is slower than most bridges because it waits for finality on the source chain. ccip is only fast when sending instructions from avax, since it has close to instant finality. ethereum chains won't have fast finality for at least 2 years (extremely optimistic timeline). if you are on arbitrum and want to use ccip to buy something on base, it's going to take 25+ minutes

>> No.58086961

>>58086856
this is incorrect
use xswap and see for yourself

>> No.58086989

>>58086961
xswap is only fast from avax

>> No.58087089

>>58081115
>>58081118
>>58081454
Thanks for your post. It is honestly what I expected and what I think many anons expect these days.
I was 20 years old when I bough my first Link tokens more than 6 years ago, I think many here were around the same age hoping to get rich while very young. Seeing this clown market and literal copy+paste shitcoins mooning in the last bullrun while Link stayed relatively low probably fucked many here over mentally.

I'm never gonna sell my Link stack, but it would be stupid to bet my future happiness solely on one major investment. I'll keep focusing on my career and seek out other investment opportunies and also keep lurking at /biz/, which is turning each day more into shit since link mainnet got announced.

>> No.58087122

ITS THE 20TH WHERE THE FUCK IS CCIP?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!??@?@?@??@@?@?@?@?@??@@@ IM SOOOO FUCKING SICK OF THIS SHITCOIN IT RUINED MY LIFE FUUUUUUCK SERGEY IS A LITERAL WHITE NIGGER. RUSSIANS ARE SUBHUMANS PIECE OF SHIT BACKWARDS PEOPLE CAN ONLY DRINK VODKA AND SCAM. NO INNOVATION JUST RURAL FAGGOTS LIVING LIKE AFRICAN NIGGERS. CCIP DELAYED FOR 3 YEARS FUCKING INCOMPETENT STUTTERING FAT MORON AND HIS TEAM OF GASLIGHTING JEWS. FUCK YOU USELESS FAGGOTS ANOTER BULLRUN GONE TO HOLDING THIS WORTHLESS USELESS NEEDLESS VALUELESS SCAM FUUUUCK!
2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS 2 MORE WEEKS
KYS SHILL FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!11

>> No.58087190

>>58086961
see you guys haven’t fudded it at all now my conviction is only stronger, ccip is going to be this cycles bnb and slurp all the liquidity

>> No.58087211

>>58081115
In this thread CLL faggots doing damage control on the two fat ass in the crypto economy. Sergey the fat ass pulled out the whitepaper 2.0 out of no place and now hes pissed off at the community.
btw OP. Your stupid fucking project that you're working will go noplace.

>> No.58087249

>>58083362
>With the Bitcoin halving right around the corner and an inevitable altseason to follow, that is very convenient. Talk themselves up right before the bullrun but of course they’ll only begin to see results after the bullrun is already over. One more cycle of false hope and luring in a new batch of gullible people to dump on
this right fucking here. Fuck these two fat faggots

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>>58087190
yeah i don't know what these nobadgers are even talking about i mean this is not even fud anymore just a bunch of nobadgers trying to convince each other that this is real fud so they can feel good about their investment going up again and if you don't invest in $spurdo then i feel really bad for you cause it is going straight to the moon and my dick is also really big and i have a lot of women but im staying faithful to my wife and my wife only so i don't cheat on my big tit wife with like 20 chick that are all models

>> No.58087304

>>58087190
>liquidity
xswap in particular is basically an interface for Circle's CCTP, so it's more like CCIP has integrated Circle's crosschain USDC, the same way Axelar and LayerZero have also integrated it

>> No.58087363

>>58087249
you get dumped on more than you think
https://finviz.com/insidertrading.ashx?oc=1079782&tc=7

>>58086678

>> No.58087395

>>58087363
what is this?

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>>58086074
>>58087254
Best poster ITT.

>> No.58087420

>>58086856
lol you are obviously talkin out of ur ass dude

>> No.58087502

>>58087395
what do you mean,can you read?

>> No.58087528

Anyone else noticing how this long winded faggot is replying to himself under different ids with the same tone and writing style?
Why are these retards so shit at their jobs?
Why have they not learned a single thing after fudding here for several years?

>> No.58087529

>>58087420
here's the arbitrum ccip router
https://arbiscan.io/txs?a=0x141fa059441e0ca23ce184b6a78bafd2a517dde8
pick any tx hash from there and search it on the ccip explorer. finished transactions will have hashes on both the source chain and destination chain. find a single transaction with sub-minute execution

>> No.58087591

>>58087502
im not clicking any links. What is the tldr
>>58087528
>Anyone else noticing how this long winded faggot is replying to himself under different ids with the same tone and writing style?
it has to be someone from the team or one of their groupie's.

>> No.58087621

>>58087529
who is using it? wouldnt that be a good indicator

>> No.58087649

>>58087591
dont worry, nobody is after your 5k $

>> No.58087664
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>>58081115

Why gaslight people to invest their life savings if you just see them as a burden and despise them? Literal scam artist behavior.

>> No.58087682

>>58087649
there is a guy on here who is trying to dox people. Its not about money fuckstick

>> No.58087690

>>58087591
The fudcuck discord "team?"
Yeah, my thoughts as well.
Blows my mind how much time these drooling idiots probably manange to waste achieving nothing on here.

>> No.58087744

>>58087682


>>getting doxxed going to reddit or finviz

>> No.58087765

>>58087621
the execution time depends on the finality of the source chain, doesn't matter who's making the request. I'll add that ccip volume has ticked up immensely, so that's good

>> No.58087953
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58087953

This thread is making me GIGA bullish. Fudders dont even believe we have large ammounts of Link. They think they are fudding out people holding 500. Were really going to make it.

>> No.58088023

>>58087765
love retards who speak without actually using the tech
have a go yourself with xswap, you'll get an airdrop too

>> No.58088134

>>58088023
show me a fast xswap transaction on the ccip explorer. they have "instant swaps" on their roadmap for Q2, I'm curious how that will work but it doesn't exist yet

>> No.58088261

>>58081115
Just realised I'm paying a bunch of nerds their wages for their lifetime to sit around talking gobbledegook and building shit on computers that will never be completed and will never see the light of day, because if it did then the gravy train ends for them. Oh and some of the money is used to pay grifters on twitter to get more retards like me to buy...thats it, thats all there is to this whole space

>> No.58088418

>>58083742
>Digital identity is an unsolvable problem.
Everest solved it

>> No.58088493

>>58088023
What I have to do for an airdrop?

>> No.58088511

>>58081115
A good quality fud post. 8/10. OP probably holds link and he probably did actually go in person.

>> No.58088822

>>58083173
Anon, there's a difference between delivering and not delivering on YOUR schedule. Chainlink has delivered and continued to deliver.

What you keep demanding (everything out now now now!) risks jeopardizing the protocol at large.

>> No.58089017

>You have a lottery ticket showing you are a winner but it can only be cashed in past a specific date. The date is mostly rubbed out but you can read 202x as the year
>this is somehow a bad thing

Didn’t read
Not selling
Am staking
Am slurping
Am cold walleting

riggers brung my sinus

>> No.58089050

>>58088261
Don’t forget that you’re also paying for an army of HR roasties who are pulling in $200k a year

>> No.58089105

>>58081115
>a notoriously toxic investor base
Oohhh how nice it must be to have the funding of a publicly traded stock company yet none of the fiduciary duty.
Give us your money and shut the fuck up.

And that other retard saying that builders don’t care about deadlines. LMMMAOO have you ever talked to a startup team? Do you know how tight their ramp is. They’ll fight to deliver a product within 3 years max before VCs dump their asses and ask for justifications.

Shut the fuck up, fucking asswipe.
Literal cuck, who’s also defending piss poor performers.

I bet you’re a 4 digit stacklet too.

I truly hope gensler start cracking down on cayman island and other bullshit projects in the near future.

>> No.58089170

>>58081118
whoa thanks for the heads up OP, just sold 100k

>> No.58089217

>>58089105
You could always just sell and move on you know.

>> No.58089241

>>58083854
My position if you want it so badly is that the shitcoin casino has a much higher likelihood to rekt you, hence why I called you a nigger (you know, a lower IQ individual). You claim to already be winning by "diversifying", to which I call bullshit, as the space is run by insiders who enrich each other and you either are one of thse or you are on the receiving end of the buttfucking, ie >>58086678
The rest of your post is basically a more cogent way of writing jeet speak
>stay poor, stay poor!
that really shouldn't be expected to work on anyone of an intj personality type which makes up the majority of this board.

>> No.58089316

>>58089017
>202X
Kek you wish baggie. You will make it 20 years from now at 50 years old, so you'll be slightly better off than trade boomers who retire at 65.
Idk about you guys but in my opinion If you can't retire in your 20s or 30s there's no point. Nobody cares about the old 60 year old boomer driving his Porsche, infact us young people actually cringe at that and feel sorry for those coping old fucks.

>> No.58089357

>>58089316
Look at this paid demoralizing jew. We aren’t selling nigger.

>> No.58089390

>>58084464
>how can you even type that with a straight face
>>58084663
This post brings up a fair point, why can't CCIP GA be the next big casino moment for crypto? We already know the token is genuinely needed for CCIP, we already know what makes casinos brrrr is activity, and it isn't being shilled actively yet besides here, where you see fud carpet bombing so consistent its gained no traction.

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>>58089105
i trust sergey
he is our friend

>> No.58089453

>fudders are despised
>proceeds to fud
>proceeds to call everyone here a loser
Boring

>> No.58089561
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>>58088134
Perhaps they will do something like Concero and others are doing. It's relatively easy to do 'instant' intent-based swaps with CCIP. The protocol fronts the user the money and assumes the finality risk for a small fee. With most intent-based bridges it's the protocol owner themselves handling most of the order flow and getting all the fees. For swapping shitcoins most users are not going to care but for the majority of Chainlink's clients this is not acceptable.

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58089639

>>58087529
You won't find any Arbitrum-sourced transactions under 10 minutes because of picrel.

>> No.58089699

>>58089420
Truth > Trust
And the truth is he's fucking you raw in the ass.

>> No.58089878

I'm just going to keep buying more link anyway, regardless of OPs or biz's opinion
I did my own research and don't trust anyone else's on here anymore

>> No.58089914

>>58089878
That's what we did in 2017/18. Never forget you're still early. Just not as early as the very early. If you're here now, with Link at this price, saying those words... you'll make it.

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>>58081118
then go and 'work' you fucking cuck wagslave, I will get rich doing absolutely nothing and there is nothing a disgusting 'worker' like you can do about it

>> No.58090000

>>58085089
See >>58085141
I've been content to miss out on base bullshit cause idw open a CB wallet. Less steps will fix people like me.

>> No.58090026

>>58090000
wasted

>> No.58090100

>>58089922
checked and haha spot on

>> No.58090153

>>58081118
All I know is time travelers told me 81k by 2025 so i'm rocking with that.

Although this timeline feels like a cometely fucked divergence from that one.

>> No.58090156

>>58089561
that's interesting, I've seen something similar with Squid router, but I think they just use bots to forward the loan instead of Chainlink automation/functions. It's secure for the lender because they are the one controlling the bot, so it's their own message telling them to send their own money to the bridge user. I'm not sure what exactly is preventing the lender from skipping the loan and taking the money; my assumption is that the axelar network monitors whether the loan took place, so it knows which address to give the bridged coins once they arrive. I'm curious how automation/functions will be used to forward the loan instead
>>58090000
checked. I think you're describing an interface where you just have a "wallet" where you can see all your tokens, but it doesn't really matter where they are and you can freely interact with them and swap them with just a few clicks? that's certainly an ideal, but there's a lot of work that would need to be done to make that seamless

>> No.58090202

>>58090153
>All I know is time travelers told me 81k by 2025 so i'm rocking with that.
>Although this timeline feels like a cometely fucked divergence from that one.
I will hold until the end of that year and rope if it's under $1k

>> No.58090495
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58090495

>>58090153
>duuuuuuuude inspect element bro!! >Source?
>haha Time travelling duuuuuude!! xD

>> No.58090540

>>58090202
What do you plan to do with the Links if it's under $1000? Asking for a friend

>> No.58090557

>>58090540
sending them to 0x0000000000000000000000000

>> No.58090691

>>58081118
Eric vibes

>> No.58091011

>>58090156
Yes, but its something CCIP would enable devs to create. And if the goal is to get boomers and normies to trade shitcoins, they need something very, very simple.

>> No.58091023

>>58081115
is that tim dillon's gay son on the left

>> No.58091700

>>58084886
Cross chain transactions are more expensive than some cheap, centralized cassino like bnb or Solana. Whats the advantage of the chain crossing?

>> No.58091906

>>58091700
Checked
Theoretically, liquidity, no? The thing all casinos want more than anything is liquidity. Solana and BNB didn't sacrifice decentralization for the cheaper transactions, they did it to attract liquidity. If you're doing cross chain, you have theoretical unlimited liquidity, you don't have to compete with ETH/SOL/BNB because you are transacting on all of them. Right now you have to chase waves because of where memes are being pushed, but with CCIP you don't have to pick and choose, you can move around anywhere.

This is still going to fuck retail in the ass mercilessly, and doesn't really do anything for the expansion to tradfi markets which is where the real money is. But it would technically give link a cut of all the casino profits, which is where all the money is going right now.

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>>58091906

>> No.58092239

>>58081115
you know what would make the fuddies that you hate so much go away? price go up. but price go down and crab. its very unusual that a business with such a bright future that you are intending is shadowed by animal and food coins. i find it weird that a company has been making empty promises for basically 7 years now is still making those same statements today. "banks will this, banks will that. yada yada yada.." The fact that supposedly swift is working with chainlink and the price is lower than it was years ago, should make you extremely worried as a "buidler"...me as an investor i frankly dont give a fuck if it works out or not, the coins just sit there while i live my life meanwhile you are counting on a risky bet. look at the picture you posted. none of the words in the background are true aside from hello london. you literally cant even see the lies when they are in front of your face and here you are trying to give advice. get help asap.

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58092343

>>58083232
>bitcoin went 10000000x before any type of traditional adoption like etf
>eth still a massive shitcoin 10000000x's anyway
>nah guys chainlink cant do the same we need institutional adoption before that happens.
shut the fuck up lol

>> No.58092451

>>58092343
the difference is the link token isn't actually USED for anything... and for the few things it is used for, devs just dump from the uncirculating supply. thereby causing inflation

>> No.58092531

>>58089316
Kek, this guy. As if those old fucks aren't cringing right back at you zoomed faggots. Do you care? Yeah, neither do they.

>> No.58092603

>>58092239
We have outperformed BTC and ETH since this shit started mid-september. The way retarded fud faggots project their goldfish memory onto everyone else is pathetic

>> No.58092622

>>58092603
kek baggie

>> No.58092658

>>58092622
Thanks for bumping the thread, there's some good LINK discussion in this thread, if you can swim through the piss to find it

>> No.58092686

>>58092658
kek baggie

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58092914

>>58083734
Hate breeds hate and it goes both ways. He ought to wear a bullet-proof vest. That's if he doesn't already wear one.
This isn't a threat.

>> No.58093209

>>58089316
Funny way of saying you dont have a GF and cant get one without money and sports car. Im cool with waiting 20 years to make it. My kids will be in their late teens and ready to retire.