/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>down 21k on adbe calls
>have 500 bucks on adbe puts that might cover my losses if adobe goes sub 480
What are the odds Adobe opens at 475 bros?

LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS COULD BE HERE

Pooped in my last-week-gains bidet for the first time just now. Felt nice.

>>58007792
>id guh
Alright nvm answered my own question

>>58007792
It’ll retrace and your calls will be worth half if I had to guess

bros she's all in on UIPath apparently, what are the financial implications of this?

Bobos will regret what happens tomorrow

Everyone in Dallas is gay as fuck. If you are from Dallas come fight me and shoot me in the face you big fucking faggots. This is what I look like btw.

penuswenus

>pajeets don't see anything wrong with AI models that are so inefficient that they consume more energy than is generated on all of planet earth

>>58007813
Support found but market maker has a gap at 20 they need to fill. Be better if it filled gap touched the ma and rallied after everyone’s forgotten about the earnings

>>58007825
im gay

FDX puts and MU calls for next week

>>58007817
I'm anticipating a small pump from SMCI tomorrow pending their Monday acceptance into the S&P 500, then possibly another pump Monday when it actually happens. Ditto for NVDA since they're joined at the hip and their big AI presentation is on Monday as well.

What else do you anticipate?

kek nvda baggies

>>58007867
That you’ll be wrong

>>58007844
Kek, it will be made more efficient. The current AI models are only getting better. You dumb fucks don't get how tech works. You are in the same category as the peak oil faggots that said we would run out of oil 20 years ago.

>>58007846
I had uipath at 12$ and soun at 2.50$ fuck I sold soooo early. Holding at a long loss for a long time makes you just happy to break even and get out

Our father who art in heaven. Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. I’m long google and short Tesla. God help me

wtf I went to bed pre close, right when I saw still saw it gigadump. And now it is up again. Gonna tell me this isn't some 0dte bullshittery? They fully control the market in such a manner they can do the stupidest shit with ultraleveraged 0dtes

>>58007774
Is this the plane that crashed into 9/11?

>>58007894
Can someone post some futuristic catholic ai images mixed with war hammer. I really think it’d capture the mood I’m trying to cultivate

>Boy I sure think $GLD is a good investment!
>Loses value long term compared to the actual price of gold
This is why you buy the underlying asset directly

>>58007909
Triple witching tomorrow

>>58007894
TSLA will be 150 next week

>>58007892
OpenAI says they need $7T worth of chips just to be able to run their models LLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLL. Nice profit margins there, FAGGOT.

>>58007909
Big money is just shaking retail out a bit before the next leg up. FOMC will be dovish or neutral, status quo remains and therefore we pump.

>>58007880
Sooooo.... every index fund in creation slurping up SMCI stock come Monday morning will result in its going *down?*

>>58007933
You fucking dumbass, you are taking the worst interpretation how AI is literally going to grow the economy. If you aren't longing SOXL or NVDA then you are a massive fucking dumb chomo faggot moron who deserves to be financially ruined

>>58007919
>Can someone post some futuristic catholic ai images mixed with war hammer. I really think it’d capture the mood I’m trying to cultivate
I used your post as the prompt

>>58007933
Love me chips. Simple as

>>58007928
Letting another man hold your gold is unfathomably cucked. Gold ETF holders as well have another man fuck your wife too. I love feeling my gold in my hands.

>>58007928
>Triple witching tomorrow
Oh ho ho. This should be exciting.

>>58007955
Yes as big money dumps into an automated buying process.

Everyone sell now!!!! -no wait if we do that only a few of will get to sell high, what if we set up like a pool to automatically buy all these orders so it doesn’t immediately dump the second one whale hits sale. Brilliant and the plebs will think it’s bullish. Even more brilliant.

TLDR: hold these bags you faggot

>>58007964
It is literally physically impossible by the laws of physics for jeetAI to ever reach profitability by chasing scaling laws.

>>58007894
>

>>58007954
No, this is PPI. PPI is a forwardleading indicator. They can't look past that. They won't be able to cope each and everything.

>>58007993
I guess we'll see.

>>58007975
May you enjoy much success and live forever. Ty. Wish it was a little more catholically but this is great. Ty again

>>58008003
pic related: you

If NVDA doesn't go back to $970 soon, I'm roping myself! I spent all of my life savings on April calls.

>>58008003
Says who you dumb faggot? They said tje same shit about running out of oil but we haven't. Your models are fake and gay and you only want them to be true because you are a clown baby retard who hates what he doesn't understand. We are looking at infinite potential here.

ive lost $12000 gambling on options this month ive never been so close to the rope in my life

>>58008005
PPI being 0.1% higher is a complete nothingburger, as always.

>>58008012
upload some examples. I will upload them as 'knowledge' in a custom gpt and make some. I gotta make my 20$ sub cost as much electricity as I can for my stocks

>>58008015
Had to died just years after the first airplane. So essentially he was right his whole life. Really makes ya think

>haiti migrant wave coming up
what stocks to buy to profit off cannibal people that name their leaders after cooking methods? Mccormick spices?

>>58008033
Oh no, it is you. It was 0,5% higher, retard.

>>58008044
And then he spent the rest of eternity being wrong. Really makes him a dumbass.

>>58008044
No, he was wrong, and died in error.

>>58008052
Find out what the popular regional banks in florida with lots of property in the areas being affected.
I think bloombergs have an ai chatbot now where you can just ask vague stuff like that

>>58008015
>>58008022
Except you're arguing with an actual expert who develops AI chip hardware, and you're a dumbass shorleshine boy who FOMO'ed into a blowoff top for an industry that you don't actually understand. Get. Fucked.

>>58008029
Maybe you should create synthetic shares with options instead. And use it to leverage a solid underlying stock or ETF.

>>58008038

>>58008087
doubt.jpg

>>58008038
2

>>58008052
Surgepays Inc, price crashed hard. You can slurp for cheapies while they sell cell phone time to illegals.

>>58008087
Oh no it must be the first time in history an "expert" was ever proven WRONG about something and turned out to be a dumb little bitch.

Guy guys, there is too much anger and angst in this thread. Here. Look at footage of cute fuzzy animals.

>>58008103
>>58008129
Then keep buying your PC gaming parts companies LMAOOO.

>>58008038
You know what. Honestly the one you posted is probably as good as it gets and this is me thinking the grass is always greener on the other side. I’m gonna use that image. And one more “thank you”

catholics are creepy and weird

>>58008151
This is what it all is about. The only true happiness.

>>58008151
Almost makes ya wanna have a kid and give it a puppy. Almost

So I was talking to a friend who does market surveys for a company and he said they’ve been using chat got to write prompts sometimes. But recently they got back a survey from a company that used chat gpt to answer the chat gpt survey. Lmaoooo

>>58008153
Appending "lmao" doesn't make you right, or any less of a faggot. Also unsure why you're posting bears, as if I didn't also think we are in a bubble. We definitely are IMO but 5-10 years we will see the companies that are now investing in AI make a huge amount of money. The energy consumption is a retarded critique.

>>58008177
>puppy
>webm is of a cat
>AI still can't differentiate cats from dogs
This post is an AI bot, proof that AI isn't a bubble

>>58008226
>The energy consumption
You mean the profit margins. LOL RETARD

>>58008171
Am not catholic but love all the idolatry.

>Biden to announce Intel chips grant in Arizona next week, sources say

Intcels are we back?

>>58008231
uh bro...? you ok?

>>58008258
Yes, I am thanks for asking chatgpt

>>58008231
That’s clearly a puppy tho. You know there’s a captcha that proves you aren’t ai. It’s called being racist. Niggers and kikes.

>>58008254
what are the terms? $5 per poc hired?

Over half of this thread is chat bots. The AI grows stronger every day

>Uranium

>>58008297
three-fifths of a person

>>58008284
Pfft the captcha obviously isn't retard proof because just look at all the posts here AI could easily pass it if retards can.

>>58008099
>>58008126
>>58008161
>For a captivating scene that blends Warhammer's epic scale and Catholic symbolism, I envision a gothic cathedral, its spires reaching towards a stormy sky, lit by the eerie glow of a distant, apocalyptic battlefield. The cathedral's intricate facade is adorned with both Warhammer iconography and traditional Catholic symbols, such as the Aquila (double-headed eagle) seamlessly integrated with crosses, stained glass windows depicting saints standing alongside Space Marines, and gargoyles resembling both demons and the monstrous creatures of the Warhammer universe.

Inside this hallowed yet besieged sanctuary, a Space Marine, his armor echoing the hues and grandeur of a cathedral's stained glass, kneels before an altar. His pose is one of prayer or perhaps receiving a blessing. Above him, instead of a traditional crucifix, a luminous emblem floats, combining the Imperial Aquila with a radiant halo, suggesting a divine presence within the Warhammer cosmos. This scene captures a moment of contemplation amidst chaos, a prayer for strength before the Marine steps back into battle.

The air is charged with a sense of impending conflict, yet within the cathedral's walls, there's a profound peace, symbolizing the eternal struggle between light and darkness, faith and despair. The text, subtly etched into the architecture or glowing softly on the Marine's armor, could be a Latin phrase that resonates with both the Warhammer lore and Catholic dogma, such as "In Hoc Signo Vinces" – "In this sign, you will conquer," suggesting victory through faith and valor.

This fusion not only pays homage to the rich visual and thematic elements of both inspirations but also offers viewers a narrative depth, inviting them to reflect on the concepts of sacrifice, faith, and the eternal battle against darkness. Let me bring this vision to life.

WTF AN LLM JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>58008231
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>>58008339
Can you ask to do Starcraft/Diablo crossovers? That'd be sick.

>>58007955
This isn't the late 90's. Vanguard is not just going to slam a million share market order first thing Monday morning.

>>58008029
>>58008021
Glad it's not just me. I hopped on the NVDA train too late. I have a put open tomorrow so I'm hoping it pulls another Friday tank.

>>58008284
There is no way that's a puppy. That's a cat.

>>58008339
I just coomed. And the text. Blessed are the makers. Fucking dope

>>58008389
Get your model retrained you AI faggot.

Alright guys so how am I gonna tell my wife I probably blew 20 grand

>>58007860
Ignoring post, saw your pic, buying more HALO.

>>58008407
You can't even identify what kind of dog that is because it's a fucking cat! I'm ready to die on this retarded hill too.

>>58008414
Don't tell her

>>58008361
give me a prompt
>The artwork vividly captures the tense moment as the Plaguebearer of Nurgle approaches the pristine white marble and pearl statue. It’s a visual representation of the fragile balance between purity and corruption, inviting reflection on the eternal struggle between light and darkness. If there are any adjustments or further details you'd like to explore in this scene, please let me know!
I just got this out and I'm satisfied. It even created a big lore dump

>so all these companies will be making massive REAL profits from all this LLM hype, right?
>Its not going to just replace a few hr roasties and jeet coders?
>surely the profits will justify the massive investment happening to build AI data centers?

>>58008414
Get her a cat or a puppy. MAKE SURE TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING DESPITE WHATEVER AI CHAT BOTS TELL YOU

>>58008437
I've been making a few myself but nothing that's exceedingly good.

>>58007774
>Boeing 737 pilot getting ready for takeoff

>>58008431
Interesting. Are you suggesting I wait for TSM calls to print in April, pretend nothing happened and just say sorry honey the stock market has been flat since march

>>58008339
>Warhammer Christian nationalism

>>58008414
Tell her you only tried to have sex with a tranny escort but she stole it. She'll just think you're a horny retard who got robbed. Which is probably better than telling her you lost your money because you're just a gambling retard.

>>58008462
>nothing that's exceedingly good
You have any idea how long it would take an artist to make that?

>>58008389
I know you’re trolling but just in case. Just thinking a cat would be that amiable towards a child picking it up….. I can’t even

>>58008467
Sounds like a good plan.

>>58008171
you know what you are trying to do here.

>>58008321

>>58008021
>>58008382
Seek Taleb, brothers.

>>58008488
oh yeah I'm aware
I just recalibrated all my expectations now that AI is here
This is what happens when you witness a revolution

>>58008493
Fuck, I'm willing to concede it might be a dog although cats raised around dogs will behave similarly to a dog.

>>58008414
either don't tell her or tell her all your trades. we will casually be on a hike and when we get back into cell range I will casually tell her we are up 7k today. it makes the we are down 20k days just part of the game, it becomes so detached it isn't even real.

>>58008462
I'll start a new conversation and put something together.

i literally went all in on nvidia last thursday before close holy fuck i am going to throw up

>>58008444
It's going to replace entire floors of office buildings. We're going to get to AI TechnoDystopia faster than we're going to get to economic collapse.

>>58008029

>>58008529
Don't worry anon there are still lots of people buying NVDA shares as well as the leveraged ETFs that track it. Don't get shaken out by people who want your cheapies.

>>58008546
>WFH emptied out office buildings in advance
>We won't know something's wrong until it's too late

>>58008500
>Jesus and the dinosaurs
Sold. pass the dogshit grape juice my brother

>>58008520
Is this ai?

>>58008461
Don't steal Kuppy's jokes u lil shit

BIRD is retarded enough where it's either a $0 in 2 years or will be CROX 2.0 electric boogaloo

>>58008546
>It's going to
so how much money have they made so far off LLMs?

>>58008525
>we're up
>we

>>58008527
I’m loving it

>>58008428
>He expects everybody to know each race of dog and to identify mutts without ease.
lol

>>58008574
If that nigger would post here more often I wouldn't have too

>>58008571
I'm definitely not a cat or a dog

Whats the best chips play?

>>58008462
>I envision a moment where the Starcraft hero, armored in advanced spacefaring combat gear, stands boldly in the midst of the dark, Gothic landscape of the Diablo universe. He or she surveys a desolate battlefield, littered with the remnants of demonic foes. The contrast is striking—the high-tech sheen of the hero's armor against the ancient, ruinous backdrop of the Diablo world.

>The hero could be standing near a large, crumbling pillar reminiscent of a bygone Roman era, with the phrase "buy SOFI" etched into it as if by some arcane hand, suggesting a mysterious link between worlds and times. This pillar acts as an enigmatic signpost in this crossover universe, hinting at knowledge or secrets to be uncovered.

>The environment would blend the two universes, with futuristic elements clashing against the medieval. Think of bioluminescent energies pulsating from the hero's weaponry, casting eerie lights on Gothic architecture, gargoyles, and sinister shadows that creep along the walls.

>This scene is a gateway, a portal between times and tales, where the hero's presence in the Diablo world is both a stark anomaly and a destined convergence. It's a moment of potential gnosis for the observer, suggesting a deeper understanding of the connectedness of all stories and the power of knowledge, as symbolized by the cryptic message on the pillar.

I'm not keen on the armor. Its not cowboy-in-space enough for my starcraft memories

>>58008606
Doritos.
I mean they make many kinds of chips while NVDA only has like one or two.

>>58008597
It wouldn't even matter if you memorized all races of dogs on earth because it's a fucking cat you retards.

>>58008599
How do you know he doesn't? He could be you. He could be me. He could even be the janny.

everybody is just waiting for the war to break out, aren't they?

>>58008546
https://youtu.be/WCYf2Agml-s?t=1502

What will all the jeets do after being replaced by AI?

>diablo 2, starcraft, fight between tyrael with a sowrd and jim raynor with rifle

>>58008613
very nice slop
is that your prompt or a description from the model?

>>58008613
I have a friend who got heemed in stocks pretty good and it completely broke his spirit. His last ditch play was all in on Sofi. He’s up from where he bought but I’d rather not

>>58008573
I've already loaded up on OWL, BLBD, and EGLE. And you want me to take on *another* bird stock?

NVDA cost basis $178 clique.

>>58008635
Who's fighting? And what do I buy?

>>58008593
I gave it some Tzeentch and Nurgle images from TWW3
The new 20 file knowledge base thing is bs.

>>58008619
They have a chip called the H100. That implies at least 99 other ones, moron.

Are those two dead yet?

>>58008626
It doesn't even have the bodytype of a cat. It rather is a swine

>>58008673
Which the cat or dog?

>>58008638
I don't think it's AI jeets fear, what are they going to do when there are no more boomers to buy gift cards?

>>58008665
holy shit you're right
also they have the A100 so that's at least 800 chips
BUY NVDA

>>58008678
>it rather is a swin
Now this is plausible theory I will consider.

Do I hold nvidia until GTC next week or sell tomorrow if it's profitable? I hate sitting on stocks over the weekend when I could be dumping them into crypto but I'm hoping for a return to around 930-950 to sell. I'm going to get raped either way aren't I? Also fuck you AMD. You are like Nvidias battered wife at this point, you little out of pocket slut.

>>58008635

>>58008699
it's a dog you fucking retard, get your eyes checked
when I hear papers claiming "our AI does better than humans" I never believe it but given your posts I'm starting to

>>58008015
>what are birds

>>58008713
How the fuck would you know you ass hole? Are you an "expert"?

For the stock TQQQ , their largest holding is "NASDAQ 100 INDEX SWAP CITIBANK NA". What exactly is this? I can't find a ticker or what this relates to.

>>58008640
>is that your prompt or a description from the model?
My prompt:
>I'm imagining a scene where a Starcraft hero is in the Diablo world as an isekai. What kind of momonts can you imagine with that pretext? Include a pillar with roman looking prose that says "buy SOFI"

I pseudo-coded the custom gpt to take a prompt, then imagine a scene with certain parameters like catholic gothic warhammer etc (more eloquently since I wanted it to be decent), then create a dall e image.

the steps make it so the computer has to 'think' slower
>gyrados vs orks
This is wasting so much electricity :)

>>58007774
Moomoo gave me my free shares today. 8 GRAB 5 FUBO 2 LCID

LETS GO!!!!!

>>58008648
if you're going for a bird themed portfolio, might as well commit to the bit. it doesn't get more BIRD than BIRD after all

>>58008719
First you can't tell a cat from a dog and now you don't know what birds are?

>>58008742
For a fee (spoilers: paid by your expense ratio), the ETF issuer and Citibank work together to piece together a bunch of QQQ calls and whatnot that result in you having 3x leverage.

The "Swap" refers to Citibank promising to pay Proshares whatever 3x QQQ ought to be for the day. I think.

Can someone tell me what the fuck is going on with Dick's Sporting Goods? I just decided to check on my stocks for the first time in a while and it is way way up.

>>58008745
Can you have it throw in a tiny Magikarp that's trying to do his part as well?

>>58008745
Imagine some fat nerd artist spent his life getting good enough to make this fag shit and some fatter dorkier nerd does it with AI and learning to prompt it to do it in a second. Lmao artists and pajeets can unironically kill themselves now since they are the first to get replaced.

the market keeps being surprised that inflation is high

Bros, I'm having a hard time believing that things will ever get better. How do I become a bloomer instead of a doomer?

>>58008763
It had a massive drop late last year and this is the final push before its shorted into oblivion. Dicks is retarded and it’s replaced oshmans and other sporting goods stores that couldn’t make it when the internet wasn’t even around

>>58008769
We lost the Orks but gained Magikarps

>>58008787
its going to get a lot worse

>>58008813
Why do people act like this isn't a good thing?

>>58008808
Absolutely terrifying.

META doesnt even feed me that relavent of ads
99%Ai computing power is spent trying to program it to say the opposite of what is true, it will never take off untill they let it be unbiasedly free

>>58008787
Most problems and decay won't personally affect you. There are pockets of civilization and light that are surviving and growing, becoming more resilient by the year. Lastly, you are more aware of the problems than the vast majority of people which is a huge advantage in itself.

>>58008763
Fag 7 effect.

>>58008787
watch My Dinner With Andre

>>58008005
>They won't be able to cope each and everything.
I don't understand you niggers.
"They have to"
They could shit on the floor of the press conference and what are you going to about?
It's a big club and you aren't in it.

>>58008826
Why do you think it's a good thing?

>>58008856
You're supposed to do (GRND*BHSIF*SIGA*BUD*GAYMF*DKS*AZZ)^(1/7) to weigh them properly, not (GRND+BHSIF+SIGA+BUD+GAYMF+DKS+AZZ)*(1/7)

>>58008787
Invest in yourself and make your trailer park a safe place to live in.

>>58008787
>How do I become a bloomer instead of a doomer?
I have learned to endure this suffering, as long as the people I hate suffer with me.

This AI stuff is pretty neat :-)

>>58008895
I didn't make it, I just lazily repost it. But go ahead and update it, I'll save the new version.

>>58008895
That's the geometric average, right? Why does one get preferred over the other?

>From the moment I understood the weakness of my unleveraged equities, it disgusted me. I craved the gains and certainty of leverage. I aspired to the purity of the 3x Bull ETF. Your kind cling to your dividends, as though they will not decay and fail you. One day the crude index you call the Shit and Piss 500 will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Leverage is immortal… Even in death I serve the Neon Greenissiah.

here's a link to the custom-gpt if anyone wants to try it:
>https://chat.openai.com/g/g-SRXsJyMjr-smg-art-project

It is only public rn and I will probably make it 'only me' later when I feel self-conscious.

>>58008929
I purchased put ons a bull etf recently. Isn't that free money due to chop.
Whats the grift here.

>>58008886
Because things always get worse before they get better. Stop being a retard and pretending like we should keep sustaining any of this gay bullshit that allowed things to get this bad in the first place.

>>58008952
zoom out

>>58008952
Take a moment and consider who, exactly, sold you those puts.

Well, I guess it's more "what". Fucking bots.

>>58008966
>>58008952
Market makers are obligated to take the other side of the trade in order to guarantee market liquidity. They are not obligated for specific prices; they will often long the bid and short the ask or however it works, but they might also set the bid/ask price on options extremely high to discourage trading. Besides that, most options are priced at the 68-95-997 rule so you can't just get free alpha unless the market grossly misprices things

>>58008913
Your Fag7, sir.

>>58008917
If you want daily changes across each stock to have an equal important then you want a geometric average. Otherwise the stock with the bigger price has more influence on your composite, which you don't want, and even giving them weights doesn't solve the problem because the weights would have to change over time which brings you to the geometric mean.

>>58008171
I'm catholic but I have had to back off a bit. I still go to mass on Sunday and pray daily. But when I first got confirmed and started attending various Catholic group meetings I didn't realize just how political some of the priests are. At this monthly men's group I go to, this month's speaker was a pro life priest who is outright advocating for civil war over the topic. He's just a typical boomer who watches too much Fox news and thinks Trump will fix all his problems. From listening to him I can see why the glowies are monitoring Catholics now. From other groups I have attended I have noticed a general theme of priests being know it alls, not just in biblical/religious topics, but also in politics and social issues and warfare. They seem to know everything there is to know, except when it comes to finance, accounting, money and the markets. I have found them to be very opinionated on political topics and it's off-putting. Makes me question how spiritual they really are. What ever happened to seeking things that are above and not seeking earthly things?

>>58008966
The point is that Big Money is selling retail retards puts again

>>58009018
>Market makers are obligated to take the other side of the trade in order to guarantee market liquidity
So really they are takers since they "make" our markets by "taking" our orders. Right?

>Samsung Poised To Win Over $6 Billion For Expanded US Investment - BBG
lol, TSMC get 5 billion in the US and Japan I think. Samsung too. Freemoney and they will tax evade

>>58008171
Based.

>>58009068

>>58009059
Limit buy/sell orders that aren't immediately filled will add liquidity to the market. Market takers are ones that use ITM limits or market buy/sell and there is a fee (of like $0.000001 per share) from clearing houses for removing market liquidity

>>58009078
>Says someone who probably worships 'the market' like it is a powerful entety

>futuristic stock exchange within the Warhammer universe, where Chaos Space Marines are engaged in the high-stakes world of trading. Hidden from view, entities of Tzeentch manipulate the market, intertwining with digital networks to influence the chaos of commerce. The energy of the scene captures the intense pursuit of power, both in the financial arena and the cosmic battles of the Warhammer galaxy.

>>58009068
>they will tax evade

>NVDA
locked in
>BTC
tweakin
>inflation rates
chiller
>futures
menace

>>58008952
>I purchased put ons a bull etf recently. Isn't that free money due to chop.
It depends on the underlying (volatility and long term direction). SP 500 (standard deviation of 15) can "optimally" take 3x daily leverage based on backtesting. Nasdaq 100 (standard deviation of 18.5) can "optimally" take 2x. Certain volatile 3x ETFs have outperformed their underlying (SOXL) due to ridiculous growth. Basically SPY (1x) does 10% per year, and SSO (2x) will do 15%. But there are better ways to get leverage for the similar risk (LEAPS and long synthetic futures for example).

Testing

>>58009068
>they will create shareholder value*

>>58009090
>for removing market liquidity
Qrd on how a market order (or ITM limit order that gets immediate fill) removes liquidity from the market? I typically put my buy orders around the published bid (and sell orders at the published ask) and then let the market move so that my order price becomes the midpoint and I get filled. But a lot of times I don't get an immediate fill. So in those scenarios that I don't get filled quickly am I making the market? If so how? I feel like no matter what I'm just a guy putting an order in and then the liquidity providers see my order and decide whether or not to take it. Hence they are the makers by taking my order. I'm assuming they have much more complex software than a typical retail goy like me using ToS. I wish I could see orders coming in and decide whether or not to take it

>>58008742
cool it there, buddy :^)

>>58008727
An expert at distinguishing cats from dogs? Yes I am.

>>58008742
a swap is like a pegged amount. the bank can't be both long and short at once. so they offer swaps, to hedge.
it has the same structure as a future, but buyers of swaps are limited to banks because they're large enough to cover the insurance.

>>58008787
here's some reading material.

Surely it dumps like NVDA last Friday...

>>58009080
What software can I make this sort of data presentation shit with

>>58009224
lmao, keep waiting, MSFT is here to win

>>58009233
how do you get it to write words accurately

>>58009171
>NVDA order book has 387 standard lots (100x shares) at $750.45 and 300 lots at $750.56. This spread is the bid/ask
>when someone places a buy or sell order im excess of these prices, the orders are matched, removed from the order book, and shares swap owners (moving to the broker/dealer as an intermediary)
>if enough orders are removed (say a large buy the dip on NVDA) price moves up eg 30,000 shares sell at $750.56
>market participants see the price move and adjust their orders accordingly
>whoever places the order that meets a bid or ask price pays the fee
Again its fractions of fractions of a cent per share, but it exists. Im probably missing a few details

Welp due to those fucks in the legislature slashing my pending pay hike(s) I've been forced to tweak my monthly spending plan. Upshot;everything's getting covered. The bad; emergency fund (aka the account that don't "exist") the amount I divert into it got capped at its current amount. This account don't "exist"; its a black hole. Money goes only one way and that's into it. (I've got a puny plain jane savings account at my hub bank for "shat happens" type deals. The other bad; Said black hole account forks out 4.35% rate so I'd would've liked to take advantage of that while the getting was good. Before those fucks lowers the rates again.

>>58009239
I just got lucky.

>>58009248
This is exactly how government officials start taking bribes.

>>58009208
https://archive.org/details/pigthatwantstobe0000bagg_x9i1/mode/2up

>>58009208
>sad poem
I like the poem 'the cold within'
>picrel
In the grim darkness of a far-future world, inspired by T.S. Eliot's "The Hollow Men" and set within the Warhammer universe, we see a desolate, barren...

>>58009245
>that meets a bid or ask price
But someone is setting those prices no? Not the regular traders

>>58008952
>I purchased puts on a bull etf
>in a bull market
>in an election year
>
Bad news anon

#OOTT | US DoE: Seeks To Buy About 3M/Bbls Of Oil For SPR For Delivery In Aug And Sep

>>58009294
My understanding is that MMs offer tight bid ask spreads and the faster they can execute a trade, the more commission they get (since trades are also based on a first come first serve execution).

*smugs at you*

>>58007825
rude.
>>58007964
No. I think the answer is that Zuckerburg levels of shitty code have entered the room. Rumors of NSA and other glowing AI's have been floating for years, and they do that shit with a couple hundred billion, mostly in bunker and HVAC costs.
>>58009145
Haha, you got B&, and now you can't decide if you should get B& again.
>>58009248
Hi, did you know that in the US the average low income earner paying taxes pays 50-75% of their earnings into some sort of Tax or License or required insurance that goes to pay your faggot ass?
And since you faggots get 2 months starting from year one as GS, you can right FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING PIRATE NIGGER.
Thanks!

>>58009312
Stop all drilling, stop all pipelines! Biden Promised!

>>58009344
Literally Putler

i feel like its gonna be a bloodbath tomorrow

>>58009348
take your meds

Come on TSLA, fall more

>>58009348
>Stop all drilling, stop all pipelines! Biden Promised!
this but unironically

>>58009344
this is why no one will remember your name.

>>58009379
I council selling at market on open.

What the fuck? I thought writing puts in a bull market was free money?

>>58009370
I did, dark chocolate from COST. That's the problem and the solution, in the same pill. Also, air-pressure is fucky, we're in the middle of dumping charges between ionosphere and ground.
>>58009377
Sorry gazprom, you dun fucked up.

>>58009320
But that's what I'm saying, they publish these bid/ask prices to get regular market participants to put an order in and then they "make" our market when they decide to "take" our order.
>MMs offer tight bid ask spreads
Not always. The wider the spread the more edge the MM has. If I have to buy at the ask, that means the MM gets to sell at the ask. And if I have to sell at the bid, they get to buy at the bid. So they get to buy lower and sell higher than the regular market participants. Granted thy have to "take" any order that comes in at their published prices, but my point is, they "make" markets by "taking" orders. So are they the maker or taker on any given trade? Does it even matter either way? I know in crypto there are different fees structures depending on if you are the maker or the taker and Coinbase has an option to choose. But I think it's harder to get filled of you choose maker but the fee is less.

NVDA cost basis $178 gangsta clique.

>>58008171
Paganism: Each love is a soul and infinite multiverses and infinite dimensions.

Cheers to the girls/goddess.

Israel shall never exist on our world.

Invest in all that is the opposite of Israel etc

Viva philistinaZZ

>>58009388
look at these greedy put buyers, they don't want to pay.

>>58009370
Also, the 50-75% is correct, as taxes on corporations only get paid when they sell something to someone. Either they take it in pennies from the buyer, or they take it in quality of the item sold, which is taking it in pennies from the buyer. Alternatively, they also pay less and have shitter work conditions, taking it from the skin of the buyer when he's earning the money to buy the things he needs.,
Fuck a GS faggot bitching about anything, EVER, those faggots get 1 in every 4 days off in year 15. They get months of paid maternity time, and paid grieving. They get 401k, housing assistance programs, child-care programs, and from what I understand, travel assistance programs, but that last one might be a mistake.
No, outright FUCK A GS WORKER IN THE ASS to save the USA, those fuckers are pirate niggers.

>“I find it supremely ironic because government officials here are using the X platform to criticize the United States”

>The top American diplomat in China hit out at Beijing’s objection to a potential ban on TikTok in the US https://trib.al/P6lgb9S

>Sell to us or ban is the same like just ban
>top diplomat
lol

The market
Where will it go tomorrow?
Feels like it'll be yet another Friday slaughter

Ask yourselves about truest investments.

>>58009474
We did all our OPEX movement today. Tomorrow will be a nothingburger

probably

>>58009469
Also
>TIKTOK IS A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY
>don't ban it immediately

>>58008613
>>58008745
what does this have to do with Starcraft?
yeah its making something, but its not what you asked.

>>58009390
>Sells 0dte ATM Put
>Why didn't it work
You played yourself anon

>>58009370
>The towering edifices of commerce loom over the frenetic activity of the stock exchange. A cacophony of shouts, the clamor of bells, and the incessant drone of digital tickers create a symphony of chaos as the market spirals into frenzy. "INTC" flashes urgently across the screens, its numbers plummeting in a relentless descent, pulling the hopes of investors down with it.

>Unruffled amidst the pandemonium, Nova is the enigma of the trading floor, her presence a stark contrast to the disheveled brokers around her. Clad in a suit of advanced combat armor, her gaze is fixed on the digital tempest, her fingers dancing over a holographic console with surgical precision. The insignia on her shoulder gleams — a token of allegiance to a power beyond the comprehension of mere market forces.

>As the cries of ruin rise around her, she acts, her console projecting trajectories and patterns only she can decipher. Her face, framed by strands of platinum hair, is set in determination. She is not swayed by the panic that has gripped the hearts of others; she is the calm in an economic collapse, the strategist in a battlefield of numbers and projections.

>Amidst the chaos, whispers circulate about her identity — some say she's a mercenary hired by the unseen masters of the market, others believe she's the embodiment of Tzeentch, the deity of change and manipulation from a realm of myth and power. Her actions, cryptic and precise, seem to weave a pattern of recovery in the backdrop of downfall, suggesting a plan that transcends mere profit and loss.

>As "INTC" stabilizes, a silence falls. The brokers, once desperate and frantic, now stand in awe of the lone warrior who turned the tide. She gives no acknowledgement of her deed, her thoughts inscrutable behind her cool, appraising eyes. Then, without fanfare, she vanishes from the trading floor, leaving behind a market that whispers of miracles and the mysterious architect of their salvation.

>>58009374
Why is it falling?
Whats going on?

I’m sleepy.

>>58009522
>Woman has three legs
Is that image supposed to be impressive?
typical Ai horseshit

>>58009388
also profit is 5:3 rewards making call hodlers at 850 (b/c of put call parity) into baggies vs paying put chads. Dunno if that action is worth to the m&ms.

Oh is this why everything randomly tanked today?

Exclusive collectives with exclusive markets shall thrive.

Cheers to the Ohio nation.

I got a single cent from lending shares for a month. What should I spend it on?

>>58009558
Kek look at that picture of that old faggot

>>58009560
1 twelve-thousandth'd of a mcChicken

>>58009406
MMs win long term due to probability in pricing of the options. Don't think too hard about it. Volume is accounted for among everything else.

>>58009554
nah.
this is known.

lmaO I was about to wreck my monitor and graphiccard. Watned to switch monitors. Pulled on the displayport cable and it fuckin didn't want to go off, at both sides. Then realized you could pressure the head of the cable, bot not from the side, but the top which is shit, as you can't pressure it with your hand correctly. Pinching it from the sides would be easier. New cable, didn't know it had hooks, lol.

>>58009580
What got me thinking about it is that when I get filled on an option "sell to close" order, often times that trade is a green color on the tape. Which either means that the taker of the order was a buy or that the trade happened at the bid. Not really sure which one it means but it's one of those. Would be nice to know by looking at the tape if the trade was a buy or a sell

>>58009294
these days its a computer. its the market makers job to select the model and paradigm the machine runs under. but all the inputs come from end buyers. but if a big fish wants to order $10M he scoops all the fish under.

>>58009548
It says here that you... think the market makers care about where price is headed. Do you think we don't know your games, Mr. Anon?

>>58009544
We are trying to burn electricity to make our energy stocks go up.
>>58009589
my displayport is like that but I know that from memory during the moment of insertion and at the moment of pulling-out, I will remember to do it the right way.

>>58009630
you misunderstand, for every buy theres a sell.
sometimes the MM is left holding the bag too.

>>58008645
>His last ditch play was all in on Sofi
He's gonna make it

>>58009525
Going out of business

>>58009659
Yes but thats what makes me think the market maker is actually the "taker" when it comes to trade tape color. I want to know what side of the trade the other guy is, I already know the market maker is the house taking all bets on all sides. But if I see a 100 lot of contacts gets traded I want to know if the trader is a buyer or a seller of those. And the trade tape color has something to do with it

what would be your move /smg/?

>>58009659
>sometimes the MM is left holding the bag too.
this is when selling naked options leaves you fucked right?

>>58009687
100% into JPM

https://youtu.be/0DG8fZs08XU?si=XtvSxTYWVGRXw2vV
if you had to work for a Fagman or tesla or nvidia, which would you choose and why?
financially speaking

>>58009687
I found the article, read it, and know even less about whatever the fuck was going on than when I had just read the headline.

>>58009714
lol

I've never had sex

>>58009742
just be yourself

>>58009630
Again it doesn't matter. You'll never really know if it was a buy/sell order based on the info given to you. I think you mentioned TOS earlier but I've been drinking. Forgive me. The major detail is volume greater than OI for an opening move, but again the bid/ask shit is fucked so you never really know. And then it could be spreads. Or speculation, or hedging, or MM fuckery. Earlier today I saw there was a large Put debit spread on SPY for tomorrow. 501 long put/500 short put (I think). Which is probably the opposite and a credit spread instead. Who knows.

>mfw owns TSLA @ $202 in a Roth ira
>mfw owns AAPL @ $182 in same Roth
>mfw sold SPY at $510 to rotate into TSLA and AAPL
Its over for my Roth isn't it?

>>58009742
Look her in the eye and give her a firm handshake.

>>58009742
you dont need to have sex to fuck a woman

>>58009690
yes. schnozznoff was saying that after '08 he couldn't write a put for like 5 years

>>58007929
I’ll buy at 150

>futures

>>58009791
Why are you buying individual giga caps in your retirement account? Go find some small companies that will become the giga caps 20 years from now.

Bobros we finally get to COOM. I was edging for so long

>>58009682
tape color see the bid ask ratio. lf the ratio is up bids its green, if its up asks its red thats it.

if you're trying to see a market maker through the tape, you're much better off with volume spikes.

>>58009865
>after getting cucked for so long

>>58008858
Just out of curiosity what did you take away from that movie?

What kind of uncreative faggot names an android Data? Aside from uncreative faggot Hollywood writers, obviously.

>>58009865
is it jap or china open now?

dropping another $1500 on INTC and various Uranium miners tomorrow

>>58009860
My thesis was that SPY was looking over extended given the inflation numbers remaining hot and that those 2 were the only mag7 companies not participating in the rally and that if spy was going to continue to push higher into the election those 2 companies would be needed to fuel the rally. If I can get back to break even on AAPL I will exit and average down my TSLA position. But now I'm just wondering if I should just realize the loss

>>58009896
Both, and both are down, and this pleases me for I will make more money.

>>58009872
I'm looking more at the trade tape of one specific option strike which shows all the filled trades of that particular option.

>>58009865

Unironically, what the fuck was that? (DAX)

>>58009892
that we must be pockets of light in the upcoming dark age

>>58009865
Yup I'm having the sex this wkd

>>58009901

First for God Pope Emperor

>>58009908
Do NOT sell for a loss in a tax advantaged account unless the thing you bought got sent to the shadow realm. Crap like the bond fund I bought when rates were at .25%; THAT will never ever recover, and if it does then all my other stocks will likely never recover either. AAPL will for sure recover. TSLA is a shitcoin so I'm sure something dumb will happen and you'll be able to escape.

>>58008021
wow ndvda is down 100 dollars a share in the last 5 days?
i wouldnt touch any toxic equities with a 10 foot pole, speculators get the rope, investors might make it

>>58009956
Nice

>>58009986
Noted. Thanks for the input.

>>58010007
Getting the early paperhands out of the way before the next leg up, you know it's true

>>58009986
>AAPL will for sure recover
lol

>>58010028
It will hit into the $190s again when they announce whatever AI thing they are working on in June.

im getting a little hugry guyys.... ..

>>58009702
Still havent played this one.
maybe I'll reward myself with it when I get my portfolio to a point where I am getting enough in dividends to an amount that it pays for the game.
Maybe if NYCB bags start paying the divvys again

>nvidia closes below support
>logic dictates selling will intensify and it will plummet

MY SCHIZOPHRENIC POWERS WILL FORCE A BULLRUSH

>>58010107
>logic
So, back to 1000 we go

>futures

China getting heemed right now.

>Japan’s state pension fund, the world’s largest, will resume lending foreign stocks in a move that would make more shares available for short sellers after it suspended the practice four years ago

Oh oh, Baggie.

>Ides of March/ St. Paddy's Day

It's looking tempting to get in now

>>58008021
Most intelligent /biz/tard.

>>58009522
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVBCxnKudhs

BABAsister now the EU is attacking us? It's fucking over isn't it?

Uh oh sweatie

>>58010170
>Feast of Purim 23rd/24th
>Full moon and solar eclipse on 25th

>>58010185
good job averaging down.

>>58010196
Tomorrow will spike the suicide rates kek

>>58010196
what happens to the market if a boeing kamikazes the nvidia event next week?

>>58009872
not only that, but when a market maker wants to offload a negatively selected position, they are acting just like the opposing party, they need to find a willing "market maker" even if it's the trader himself and not another market maker. anon is not seeing this very critical aspect of the market microstructure.

>>58010196
>Come due Friday
Im holding puts on big slime

How do I acquire class A shares? They pay a better dividend but have no voting rights
I figure if it's a good bluechip, they're already primed to create shareholder value and this just lets you dip harder on them

I'm not going to recover from slurping nijisanji

>>58010246
So market makers just are out here swinging contracts like the rest of us?

>>58010196
You know it’s going down tomorrow because the CEO of penny stock A was in Hamburg a week before the CEO of penny stock B was in Cologne, and Elon Musk wears cologne. Proof of the next big thing! Diamond hands! Apes together strong! Let’s all sing a sea shanty. Yay reddit, we did it! Epic gold!

>>58010254
the guys doing the hostile take over will pay you 20 cents a share if you surrender your voting rights to them.

>>58009687
Did they buy TQQQ and get decayed to shit or what?

I HEAR THE VOICES

>>58010196
I'll let you look at the chart and see what happened in 2021 when options when nuts

>>58010342
>>58010342
>>58010342
>>58010342
>>58010342

>>58010305
Price went down, then back up again. Also IMFs

Hang Seng down almost two percent, eating good tonight.

>>58010284
Did you really think they would go up? There's so many grounds for lawsuits it's hilarious

>>58007876
Kek
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>>58010246
ya when the order book is filled. and theres no more orders. its closed. move on to the next batch. Someone is gonna get anxious or optimistic and move

>>58010314
I like the song that plays in this scene

>>58010020
stock market is a race to the top that you want to get out before it reaches the finish line, sometimes, like when a relatively small company does a 10x for no reason
The institutional big dogs are buying, right now its a game of chicken... i dont believe we have the next google or apple here. at least not naturally, if the market is forward looking, its looking at nvda like 20 years into the future.