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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Buy on Amazon with XMR!
https://monezon.com
https://peershop.app

>Win XMR!
https://monero.vegas/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ivG7HN52


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development?
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Wownero SLUTS, we just cant stop winning

That was weird, moneromarket.io had a bug. I selected "pay out to external address" but when a buyer released payment from escrow it went to the site wallet instead. Not a huge deal since it was an unknown <1 amount of Monero, and I was able to withdraw manually, but still worth paying attention to if anyone else has listings up.

>>57992971
If monero is the real bitcoin, then wownero must be the real…wownero.

>>57992851
besides all the shittalk with random words thrown every where, why the fuck would I switch to monero when satoshisync does essentially the same and with less hassle? it's not even out yet and its ecosystem has many partners on it.

>>57993664
>why the fuck would I switch to monero

You shouldn't.

>>57993706
that's exactly what I tought!

>>57993664
I mean the talk shit about btc and giggles, but in the end some people are over 8 figs, myself at 6, and All I did was wait, gonna cash out as soon as it hits 90-100k and wont look back, set for life. (I mean its not like I'm gonna live +200 years)

>>57993441
Wownero is like Bitcoin because it has a hard cap.
So Monero is like Dogecoin...
But Wownero is a memecoin like Dogecoin...but, But! Bitcoin and Monero are not memes
So...its Bitcoin if it was a memecoin...so it will pump like its a memecoin and like its a Bitco-

H-Hey! Are you paying attention!? There will be a test on this later when it pumps again!

>>57993737
I mean I dont get the greed, it's not like they are gonna buy some few exoplanets or something.

>Monero leads the way in privacy standards for crypto currency yet falls behind in adoption as a result, one solution to broaden the applications of monero is drivechain. Drivechain is a proposed soft fork to bitcoin which would allow for the creation of “trust-less” side chains
pegged 1:1 to bitcoin. It is “trust-less” because miners can steal funds from users, however assuming a sidechain is successful it is more profitable to take tx fees at least in a non tail emission blockchain like btc. The two mechanisms to deliver these features are blind-merge-mining and hashrate escrow. It would be unwise and overall damaging for monero as a whole to implement a 1-1 drivechain hard fork. However by exploring the technical aspects of how this could be performed this paper aims to aid in the development of monero based trust-less side chains pegged to monero.

>Monero’s private by default design and lack of major exchange centralization makes it an attractive central currency to develop drivechains on. Through a minimal scripting system other applications of cryptocurrency can be implemented on sidechains of monero while mainchain currency remains unaffected. Additionally monero’s tx keys may allow for better truly trust-less implementations of drivechains by having a built in secret to attest to an action made.

https://github.com/BrandyJSon/drivechain-xmr-research/blob/main/Application%20of%20drivechain%20to%20monero.pdf

>Reposting from last thread
I'm the anon that asked about using PayPal as an anon last thread. I guess I should have been more specific with my use case. I am not buying Monero with PayPal. I want to buy items using PayPal and want to load the account what funds anonymously or as anon as reasonably possible. I can only think of Visa gift cards purchased in person with cash or Monero via CoinCards. Are there any other options worth considering?

>>57994695
No. Paypal requires KYC now.

>>57993664
>satoshisync
So this is the power of 2024 crypto...

>>57993664
*2 satoshis were deposited to your Lightning channel.*

Can anyone of monerochads help me understand serai?
https://github.com/serai-dex/serai/blob/develop/docs/economics/index.md
So when it launches(is there a date?) you have 30 days to provide some crypto to stake.
After that you will be getting the SRI as a fee for people using your coins?
My question is, is it just some type of new wallet where I stake or do I have to run node 24/7?
How long are my funds locked when stacking? When can I get them back?

>>57996953
Don't quote me on this, I'm trying to understand too.
Various frontends (like Cake Wallet) will provide the option to add liquidity to Serai, I guess it's a SRI wallet you create to engage with the DEX. You can withdraw the added coins at any time, but the corresponding SRI will be burned if a certain time hasn't passed yet, it's trickle-fed into the system and unlocks gradually. When you provide liquidity, you earn trading fees.
Staking is different from adding liquidity, you have to run a node 24/7 and I I think there are some minimum requirements.
https://github.com/kayabaNerve/serai/blob/economics/docs/Economics.md

>>57997009
I see so in theory, you should be able to just provide liquidity(through some CLI/GUI), and earn fees while at the same time your funds are safu?

I've been out of the loop since the previous crypto boom. Are there any big XMR changes I should have paid attention to? Are make-it numbers still a thing? Are the moon boys still around or is the focus on being a practical use stablecoin?

>>57997440
The Binancocaust hurt price, work is being done on full membership proofs and a few other cool things, Monerochan plushies are all the rage, Monero continues to dominate the dark web and is number 2 for no kyc prepaid cards, and some Monero-adjacent projects like Serai are going to be massive Dexes to trade on with actual liquidity pools.

What credit cards can I use Monero with?

>>57997440
>Are there any big XMR changes I should have paid attention to?
-P2Pool launched, creating a decentralized mining pool and got integrated into the official GUI wallet.
-research and development on Triptych and Lelantis-Spark officially ceased (these would have been protocol upgrades meant to replace RingCT). Development is underway for new protocol upgrades codename Seraphis and Jamtis.
-monero circular economy is growing with the help of Monerica, a standalone business/service directory for monero users
-HavenoDex is still being developed, but the lead maintainer ErCiccione left the project and gave it to the Cakewallet team
-The CCS wallet holding 2,675.73 XMR, controlled by two lead monero devs, got completely drained by someone who breached their systems. About a month or two later, someone donated roughly the same amount back into the general fund. It's still a mystery as to who stole the monero or who decided to donate the same amount back into the general fund.
-Binance, who had the largest liquidity of monero on a centralized exchange, officially delisted the privacy coin. Briefly this sent the price down to levels not seen since 2020.

That's about all that I can think of at the moment.

>>57997665
>>57997440
there's also new record for transaction per day (bitcoin maxi tried to fuck with monero by flooding the chain with transactions)

>>57997762
>bitcoin maxi tried to fuck with monero by flooding the chain with transactions
That's only one narrative and frankly a retarded one. ArcticMine is of the more lucid opinion that the binance delisting drew transactions from kyc transactions (only happening on binance servers on paper) to the blockchain (resulting in a measurable transaction high)

>>57997894
We have a new flat level in transaction chart, so I believe this is on-chain trade (at least mostly). If it was an attack, attacker would inflate it further. It is still pretty cheap thing to do.

Watch this you niggers: Solving the Monero Ring Size Problem: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Hm6nY7k5kbM

>>57997762
>there's also new record for transaction per day (bitcoin maxi tried to fuck with monero by flooding the chain with transactions)
that's a retarded narrative giving too much credit to retarded bitshitters. Monero is simply being used more and more. Transaction numbers increase is normal, and should be expected. Adaptive block sizes work, monero's block size has increased from 290 kb to 390 kb over 3 weeks or so. This is all good. Stop with the attack narrative.

>>57997179
Yes, though likely providing liquidity at genesis will be more profitable. After genesis staking would be the more sought after way to participate.

>>57998256
And do you need to run a node at genesis stage?
Dont have spare pc that could run 24/7, nor do I want to pay some VPS

>>57998024
>Solving the Monero Ring Size with Amir Taaki (Monerotopia23)
Based. Can't wait for it to start.

>>57998293
No, liquidity providers don't have to be validators. You'd just send your coins via Cake Wallet or some other frontend.

>>57998024
>that's a retarded narrative giving too much credit to retarded bitshitters.
It would be a good narrative if they didn't request funding in BTC, forcing them to become spenders are not HODLers, thus devaluing the entire value proposition of BTC in the process.

>>57998352

Verily I say unto thee: the HODLers shall inherit the Earth.

Thinking about selling some old stuff on moneromarket.io. Does anybody here have experience with that place?

>>57999328
Also wondering the same.

>>57999328
>>57999560
Why do you even need to ask if you should be growing the monero economy?
JUST FUCKING DO IT ITS GOOD FOR YOU

Is there a way to generate seedphrases for BTC out of a XMR seedphrase and vice versa? Please drop some recommendations.

comfumo

>>57990620
why not make more regular ones? seems like plenty of people want one, me included
also dont make me drive like 9 hours to the conference just to get the fumonero aaaa

Imagine having no fumoneros. Not even a single one.
Couldn't be me.

>>57999935
I don't think so anon, they use different cryptography. Why do you need this?

>>58000447
>anon owns ~3% of the total fumonero supply
I kneel.

>>58000347
https://monerosupplies.com/product/monerochan-plush/
>This certificate proves that you own one of the only 100 Monerochan plushies in the world.
>Important: monerosupplies.com will never offer them again once they have sold out!
No fumo supply dilution!
>>58000528
I got caught up in FUMO FOMO. No regrets.

>>58000608
>No fumo supply dilution!

Store of value confirmed.

>>58000643
1 fumonero = 1 virgin wife

>>57989771
Thank you, with that in mind, my friend, please give me a temporary email so that we can keep in touch with your actual, new email.

>>58000608
>>58000643
The value of fumonero goes up forever! There is no second best.

>>58000879
>The value of fumonero goes up forever
Based.

wagmi fumonero bros

Amir Taaki's MT23 talk is up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm6nY7k5kbM

>>58000608
shit guess i'll be driving 9 hours in june then

>>58002560
If you're lucky there might be an auction for the very last one some time in the future.

>>58002372
is this a re-airing of amir's talk at an eth conference or something? Does he ever mention monero-specifics?

the real talks begins at 28 minute mark in which he seems to take some questions from the live audience.

New Monero Song Dropped:

Monerochan - Stealthy Hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Pe55o2oAw

I heard that Ciphertrace is shutting down, is this true?

>>58002372
>>58003445
OK. I listened to the last 15 minutes of this talk, which was the actual part that was live for the monerotalk event.

It was a bummer ngl. I didn't hear a solid plan, action, that's going on with regards to the full membership proofs migration.

>>58004034
>Ciphertrace is shutting down

Kinda. Its shutting down certain services.

>The Mastercard-owned crypto analytics firm CipherTrace is informing clients that it is pulling the plug on key services, according to people familiar with the matter. In response to inquiries from Fortune, the credit card giant confirmed this is the case but offered no further details as to the rationale.

>The affected products include Armada, which helps financial institutions with risk and fraud models for crypto transactions, Inspector, which provides an interface to trace transactions, and Sentry, an anti-money laundering tool.

https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/03/13/mastercard-ciphertrace-blockchain-analytics-chainalysis-bitcoin-fog/

So its looking like their legendary Monero-tracing gizmo didn't pay dividends lol

Told you like 10 million times that you wont go to the moon, and where are you now?
130 buxx?

Am I in full copium here if I say the flood is a good thing since maybe it will motivate people to work fcmp instead of other shit?

>>57992894
based

/biz/ not only moonless, but homeless

>>58004133
>It was a bummer ngl. I didn't hear a solid plan, action, that's going on with regards to the full membership proofs migration.

Amir isn't the driving force behind FCMPs, Luke is. He did however light the fire under the asses of the devs regarding the need to finally ditch ring signatures, that's what inspired Seth to propose looking into SNARKs, which in turn inspired Luke to figure out how to get it done with Bulletproofs instead.

FCMPs are pretty much done as far as the code itself goes, now its a matter of auditing it and moving to a suitable elliptic curve.

>>58004215
>>58004304
Where am I? I'm using Monero as MONEY. I mine to support the network. I trade goods and services for Monero. I have sold products to and bought products from anons in these very threads, with Monero. When was the last time two anons on /biz/ sent BTC or ETH to each other on chain to buy things? 2018?

>>58004215
>Told you like 10 million times that you wont go to the moon, and where are you now?
>130 buxx?
>>58004304
>/biz/ not only moonless, but homeless

Take the hint, retard, nobody here takes you or your Tether-juiced memecoin seriously anymore.

Enjoy the totally organic pump to $100K and beyond, be sure you drop by to remind us of your sick gains lmao

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>>58004694

Everybody should listen to this, its a fucking riot!

>>58004165
Good riddance, bootlickers.

>>58004694
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I'm seeing a lot of skepticism about Tether being expressed everywhere lately, did something happen? Is depegging imminent? I have over 20 grand in usdt, what do?

Shitposing aside, whats up with monero?
I sent someone 15 mnutes ago and theres still 0/10

>>57992851
Forgive a noon question, but hypothetically could I wash my own xmr by sending it through a series of single use addresses that all lead back to my own wallet?
Is this feasible? Is it traceable?
Thanks for any reply.

>>58004694
>pic
Reminds me of a freer, more vibrant internet.
Alright I'll check it out

>>58002769
i better manage to regain access to my old ass wallet until then

>>58005085
>did something happen?

Nothing that hasn't already been happening for the past 6,7 years.


>Is depegging imminent?

Nobody can say, Tether is super shady and refuses to provide verifiable proof of reserves.


>I have over 20 grand in usdt, what do?

Put it all into a dog. Preferably one wearing a hat.

>>58000608
Does this mean they're all sold out?

RPC remote node passwords stopped working on the latest update for me. I don't know if the remote node doesn't read the username:password correctly using the command line argument, or if the GUI wallet doesn't use it correctly when connecting to the remote node, because I updated both, but either way I can only operate with the remote node not having a user:pass.

>>58005218
>wash my own xmr by sending it through a series of single use addresses that all lead back to my own wallet?

Not necessary, this ain't BTC, XMR is fungible. You can still improve your anonymity set somewhat by sending to yourself a few times at random with at least several hours in between.

If you listen closely you can actually hear Satoshi laughing maniacally as he spins in his grave.

>>57992851
>>58005744
that and usinf using fresh wallets with a full node over tor couldn’t hurt.

>>58006361

>>58006361
Is this real? Are maxipads retarded? Is this some new disorder that should be added to the DSM?

>>58001274
Ahhhhh one of those should’ve been mine

what the fuck is going on with tx time? isn't this shitcoin supposed to increase block size so it doesn't bottle neck?
why does everything have to suck so hard in crypto space.
some of you saying this isn't an attack like if that was a good thing. I can only image the shitshow this would be if it were a real attack. if this much of a disruption was caused with normal use then i guess its time to move on from this shitcoin which is heading the same way of btc, a bunch of cultists that cannot take criticism because "le coin is already perfect" narrative.

>>58006781
What's the better coin you are moving to?

>>58006797
just getting out of the crypto shitshow altogether.
everything is either a complete scam or a useless crap

>>58006963
If you don't see any utility or ideals than that's certainly the best way for you. Hope you get good exit conditions.

>>58006632
>Is this real? Are maxipads retarded? Is this some new disorder that should be added to the DSM?

Its been this way ever since the HODLtards took charge of Team Bitcoin. Fucking morons keep yapping about growing "muh circular economy" while simultaneously urging the faithful to never spend/sell/trade their coins to ensure "muh absolute digital scarcity". Pick one, imbeciles.

Now, as far as we're concerned, this state of affairs is AWESOME, the hoarding of BTC is something that should absolutely be encouraged at every opportunity as it typically benefits the Monero economy. Help the laser-eyed wetbrains destroy what's left of theirs.

>>58006781
I think you're highly exaggerating the tx time.
Blocks have increased in size. You need to increase your tx fee if you want to get included further. The latest wallet update has that set to auto update.
>why does everything have to suck so hard in crypto space.
Because this is a p2p open source project. It's way less convenient than credit cards.
>a bunch of cultists that cannot take criticism because "le coin is already perfect" narrative.
Your criticism is all over the place and not really coherent. Monero had responded alright to this spam attack. It didn't break and dynamic blocks kicked in. The network never went down. Fees are still cheap. We still have fungibility.

>>58007250
*Included faster

I've saw that recently blockchain was satturated. I wanna help solving this problem. I have a unused raspi and an unused 128gb usb key. Can I use the raspi to "help" by hosting my own XMR node ?

>>58007250
>tx takes about an hour to go through
>update wallet to increase tx fee and therefore tx can go before other transactions
yeah, xmr shouldn't laugh at btc at this point

>>58007316
It can certainly run a pruned node.

>>58007345
Transactions don't take an hour to go through and you don't need to update your wallet to increase your tx fee.

>>58007345
>maxipad doesn't understand transaction bidding
IMAGINE MY LACK OF SHOCK

>>57992851
Passerby here, I’m just here for the comfy

How much monero will I need to survive the cannibal guerilla wars when the cannibal army of darkness migrate off Haiti and start playing jason vorhees in america? I'm thinking enough for a trailer innawoods modded with steel barriers and medieval traps will require quite a lot of moneroj.

why some retards complaining about tx time? my tx time is ok as usual
i don't even change the tx fee thing

>>58009088
1) block size has stabilized
2) these are just some fat trolls

>>57992851
>That pic
It really is MoNegro!!!!!!!

Bump

>p2p
>i2p
>gpg
>xmr
Neveko is the final solution to the extorting dnm glowies
https://github.com/creating2morrow/neveko

>>58012427
>written in Rust
Is it an actual local GUI or just a wrapped website in a frame?

>>58004304
>/biz/ not only moonless, but homeless
When not incarcerated.

>>58012753
based and john mccaffee pilled

>>58009088
>>58009528
Gimme your addresses, i'll send you both a small amount so you can see for yourselves. Shit going smothly for you doesnt mean they are going smothly for everyone.

>>58013285
here. on my mobile: 8BFAaph8WSEYNqfdwThzch94g8d1HfEb9Nv23JnBkLqDDwbCQNFgmQnFYi2PDzNUFRHBk7JtRcXrHLCdDFK5hSrs9xufPH7

I still have wait for the tx I sent earlier for mullvad sub though.. have been waiting for an hour now.

Good morning, I hate moonfags.

Actual comment, this is what compliance cucks actually believe:

>I am glad regulation is catching up to privacy coins like Monero. Yes, privacy features are nice, but these untraceable coins give so much power to criminals that we're worse off with this tech than without it.

>No I am not a simp for the existing financial system, nor do I think cryptocurrencies should bend their arse over backwards for daddy EU or the white house. Crypto should exist as a separate alternative to the existing financial system to keep things in check and offer us, regular people, another method of storing and exchanging value. For that, coins with full transaction and balance obfuscation like Monero are not needed.

>One of the core tenants of blockchains is transparency. Funds should be traceable in the event of criminal conduct. Whether that be kidnapping, wire fraud, or tax evasion. The superrich who store all their wealth in offshore accounts and avoid paying billions in taxes are a plague to society.

EGGS!!!
Now on moneromarket!

>>58014590
Maybe I should get some more chickens and become a monero egg farmer. Though I don't know how shippable they are or if someone wants to come pick them up.
Can't wait for the local online monero farmers market complete with market farm subscriptions

>>58014600
I think with proper packaging it shouldn't be a problem. Sadly, I'm just a reseller and not a chicken farmer. But still, EGGS FOR XMR is finally a reality.

Status? How's the network? Is it recovering?

I officially have a monero make it stack

<3

>>58014778
It never died lol
>>58014787
Congrats anon.

>>58014887
I never said it died, it was just some brief congestion until block size expanded.

>>58014891
>brief congestion until block size expanded.
see for yourself: http://yucmgsbw7nknw7oi3bkuwudvc657g2xcqahhbjyewazusyytapqo4xid.onion/explorer

>>58014787
>I officially have a monero make it stack

Cool. Now earn/buy some more and spend it.

>>58014778
update was pushed and the mempool logjam cleared up over the course of half a day or so, maybe a day or 2 after the update.

>>58014543
*tenets
dumb fuck can't even use English correctly

>>58014543
That's some truly next level cucking... This is exactly why it's good to get XMR off of all KYCuck exchanges, just to get rid of these kind of people becoming users. They only deserve XMR when they stop being cucks.

i hate the antimonero

>>58015872
Just sent a tx, took around 40 blocks to complete...
Also why you fags lie like that, whats the point?
>https://moneroexplorer.org/txpool
Most of the block have more txs than they can write and block size is not getting any bigger than 350kb.

>>58016478
Now that's straight up art

>>58016622
idk chief i just watched it hit like 450kb and then pretty swiftly handle it all...

Didn't see this coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prGIWqxwb4o&t=3572s

>>58016622
But the bus keeps getting bigger?
https://tx.town/v/xmr

>>58014787
>a monero make it stack
and how much is that

>>58014590
>>58014664
So based. Now we need p2p bread and crops to complete Monero.

>>58018273
Wont take long, while not yet grown towards crypto microfarming fags are on the rise on their own and some of theirs are already shilling Monero

>>58018324
This, the system is making it hard and annoying for them so naturally they'll look for an escape.

>>58018273
>p2p bread
Some madman is already doing it, picrel. But yes, you need food to survive. And ideally you can pay for it with monero. I guess the next best thing if you're lucky is a local farmer selling for silver.

>>58018534
>12 fucking dollars for a shitty loaf of bread
so this is the future... or finance...

>>58018560
Organic supply and demand. There is obviously a lack of supply currently. The logistics are also not as good as they can be, obviously. I understand not having seen an emerging market but not even being able to imagine one, nor see it when it's staring into your face, is just sad.

>>58018574
it's so based man, some day I'll be able to order a ton of flour with monero

>>58018748
Might sell some vegetables and the like myself later this year. We'll get some time to have fun before economy of scales kicks in. Gotta enjoy the gated monero community while we can.

>>58018748
How about this?

How do I figure out what the BTC/XMR exchange rate is going to do? BTC ride has been awful. Want XMR someday.

>>58018838
>How do I figure out what the BTC/XMR exchange rate is going to do?

Short-term? BTC will continue to outperform XMR courtesy of Tether's hard-working printer.

Long-term? Organic demand outlives artificial demand.

>>58014590
Based

>>58018273
We have eggs and coffee. Someone selling bread and spices would allow for a full Monero breakfast.

>>58019846
>p2p privacy preserving breakfast

>>58019846
Monerochan seems very pleased with the mushroom coffee.

>>58019943
>that stare

>>58019991
It's a kind of tired that coffee won't fix.

>>58019126
Thx, anon.

>>58005085
glowies have their sights on tether because it’s been tied to the fentanyl epidemic as a major money laundering vehicle.
makes tetherfags a bit squeamish, perhaps a little nervous even.

missed the last hundreds of threads for a year, where can I buy plushies?

>>58020327
But tether is a glowie operation?

>>58020350
As was crack, checks out

>>58020349
Plushies are over

>>57999935
I think Trezor Model T

>>58020349
If you're lucky there will be an auction for the last one some time in the future.

>buying food from criminals
ISHIGGYDIGGY

>>58021314
Also medicine.

>>58018823
I'm saying like truckloads for a bakery

Uh oh, looks like we missed the boat, its truly over now kek

>>58021801
>Grayscale Zcash trust

>>58021518
Anon if you are willing to pay me resale prices in XMR I will drive the truck myself right now and be back by next tuesday

>>58021801
>accredited investors only
aka "this is radioactive dog vomit the SEC won't let us sell to retail"

>>58021860
See from my point of view "accredited investors only" is cryptokike for "not for the goyim."

>>58022027
Except these are ETFs, and ETFs have a history of being flaming garbage inside thanks to NAV arbitrage. Being an accredited investor just means you get bogged harder.

>>58022040
I admit I'm not well versed in traditional finance, but the opposite also seems to happen with regularity. There's been 3 naked shorts that retail caught on to and called out, and every single time the jew has been able to slime through the consequences. What are your thoughts?

>>58022069
There's a "legit" escape hatch for naked shorting. If the company goes bankrupt and gets delisted, the shorts never have to close. Retail has found and bought in to exactly two times where that didn't happen: GME and MMTLP. Both are still actively being fought, including lawyers suing back and forth over MMTLP because the stock was never supposed to exist on the open market at all. GameStop is widely predicted by normie wallstreet analysts to show full year profitability later this month, so we'll see how that goes.

But back to ETFs, most of them except SPY are trash, and SPY is five tickers in a trenchcoat at this point propping up an otherwise down market.

>>57993229
This is why XMR will never take off as currency. There is no protection for shit like this, normies won't touch it.

>>58022197
ok retard
explain how this is different than any other escrow system

>>58022213
If I use a credit card to buy something online, I have recourse if the seller fucks me. If I send someone XMR, that shit is gone forever.

>>58022241
Now google escrow
Actually, I am not sure you would manage on your own, so here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escrow
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/escrow
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/escrow.asp

>>58022279
Bzzt. Nope, nobody is going to pay companies to do escrow for every purchase. They'll just continue using credit/debit.

>>58022329
Enjoy your innocent youth someplace better. Wasn't that long ago you paid extra for using a card, and that only changed because they profit off of you in different ways now.

>>58022372
Yeah, people still aren't going to pay using some literally who coin and play the escrow game with some random company. Enjoy your innocent youth indeed

>>58022395
Where's your goalpost going? "Nobody" to "People", "no recourse" to no adoption.

>>58022416
Here's the goalpost >>58022197

>>58022426
This is why the US dollar will never take off as a currency. People in Russia don't use it.

>>58022395
>claims to be into crypto
>doesn't understand babby's first rule of escrow within the context of crypto
You really don't belong here and it shows.

>>>/lbgt/KYS

>>58022443
When did I ever claim to be "into" crypto?

>>58022467
>>>/lgbt/

>>58022484
I accept your concession

>>58022502
>I accept your concession

Wait, I recognize you, you're that salty Bitcuck that was shitting up our Generals last week!

>>58022329
>Bzzt. Nope, nobody is going to pay companies to do escrow for every purchase.
The escrow system was literally what glitched with MoneroMarket, tardbrain.

>>58022069
>Melvin Capital Management LP was an American investment management firm based in New York City
>was
GME is actually a disaster, not just financial but also in terms of PR, corruption, etc. I think technically it's still ongoing but it going off relies on trusting them to play by the rules or changing them if things get too hot.

>>58022610
Tell us more about this friend of yours that lives for free in your head!

>>58022611
Damn, that must suck for the 10 people who regularly buy stolen beef jerky from some marketplace nobody who matters will ever touch.

>>58022677
>Tell us more about this friend of yours that lives for free in your head!

I accept your concession

>>58022701
Yes, I'm the "bitcuck" that was shitting up "generals" last week. I concede.

What's your reward?

>>58022715

>>58022740
I once again humbly accept your concession.

>>58022794

Cool. Now go enjoy your generational wealth somewhere else.

>>58022740
>tfw this is the face of crypto in [current year]

>>58022853
Oh wow, I'm getting so owned by my generational wealth and by some incel who went all-in with his McDonald's money on a shitcoin that loses value every single day.

>>58023004
>a shitcoin that loses value every single day.

...and the mask drops.

>>58023019
Yes, it is I, the truth speaker. I was merely pretending to be a delusional bagholder so I could drop my mask and stab you in the back with my knife of truths and facts.

>>58019126
How the hell does Tether avoid getting shutdown? It can't be legal to print funny money and exchange it for real money, right?

>>58024309
It's de-facto legal because they're buying treasuries which stops demand for treasuries from tanking which would require more rate hikes.

>>58014079
Sent you a nickel nigga

how will bitshits cope in 10 years, jesus, it's going to be glorious

>>57992851
https://moonstoneresearch.com/2023/11/03/Postmortem-of-Monero-CCS-Hack.html
were the transactions traceable because the hacker sent the xmr to 9 addresses and then used monerujo pocketchange which if i understand right "poisons" the transactions with outstanding metadata?
if he opted to send the full quantity to one address, then to another and from that second address cash it out would it still be traceable somehow?

>>58024515
got it received. thx, going straight into my cold long term storage

>Michael Saylor is going to be the richest man in the world
>Michael Saylor will be the presdent of USA
This is what Bitcucks literally believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y347CSCcFc8&t=33m50s

Transaction was sent 15 hours ago nearly 1k blocks ago, checks out on the "prove payment" thing, but address still shows 0 balance. Is this because the network is getting spammed or what?

>>58026239
Never selling if true! Will he have universal basic lambos?

>>58026528
More info needed. You sent yourself something?

>>58026239
>1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin no matter what the fiat currency does

>>58026614
Bought from localmonero, still haven't received the payment

>makes your podcast unlistenable

>>58026936
So why on earth do you default to "the network is getting spammed" and not "my dumbass is getting scammed"?

>>58027046
Because the seller had 1k+ reviews, and I've checked several block explorers, all showing that the transaction happened with the correct amount to my address using the prove payment feature?

>>58027076
>XMR
>Block explorers showing amounts and addresses
Are you sure you're even using Monero? wat

>>58027099
See for example:
https://localmonero.co/blocks/tx/83c6d6c81d6e5c6671b4d3b0c8ed678c981515c376859069f288afe5737bd600

"Prove payment"

>>58026528
If it's sent to the correct address and confirmed 1k blocks ago it has to be in the seed corresponding to the address. Maybe resync the wallet?

>>58027099
>>58027111
Actually my dumbass didn't try other wallet software, only MyMonero and Guarda. Tried feather now and it showed up.

>>58027117
Based that it isn't lost. Feather is the best one.

>>58027127
I was surpised at how good it was. Last time I used monero was 5+ years ago, thing have... changed... to say the least. Really happy with how they're at right now.

>>58027013
Based XMR boomer.

>>58027076
So you have the txid and the key image to prove they sent to your address. Cool. Might be your wallet freaking out. You can try checking on the rx side as a reality check.
https://www.exploremonero.com/deposit
You will need your secret view key for that. If it hits, your wallet got tarded. You will need to restore to at least prior to your localmonero purchase. You can do restore with height, though depending on the age of the wallet might make for a heavy data load.
In any case, you want to restore just before your oldest enote in your wallet. I churn quarterly just to avoid such tardation.

>>58027117
Glad you didnt get scammed

>>58027149
>Guarda
Also this isn't open source so for max paranoia you might want to consider the seed compromised. I'd change to a different wallet, Feather now allows you to make a short 16 word seed that saves the restore height of your wallet.

>They also believe that free software guarantees complete security. But is it true?
>The answer is no. The fact is that partial closeness of the code does not bring additional threats to the user. All the hazards are not directly related to open-source or closed source software. They usually come from another side. There are some quite high-profile cases with known Wallets on fully open source, which nevertheless were attacked by hackers.
>This proves us that whether it is Open-source software or not — the security of the user is made up of other things.
Kek. I love this cope of moving the goalposts with these "partially open source" apps.

Can someone recommend me a webgui wallet I can self host ? All the wallets on Android suck

>>58022610
Yeah it's that retarded fag. I wonder when his single brain cell will finally die.

>sent tx 5 hours ago, it failed but isn't in the mempool on any explorer
>can't send the coins again as it's considered a double spend
wat do anons?

>>58028072
I fixed it by using a remote node instead of my local one. Anyone know why this happened?

>>58028126
Are you fully synced?

>>58028547
Yes, looks like my node somehow remembered that the tx failed but can't see it's not in the mempool anymore and I didn't want to restart the node.

>>58019943
>>58019846
Selling food for monero isnt exactly lucrative when 90% of moneros moneyflow goes into weight loss powder

>>58028968
What logic does this assumption follow. Lucrativity is decided by what you can get something for vs what the other guy is willing to pay multiplied by the volume you can move at those conditions. What other people do is completely irrelevant.

>>58028996
>What logic does this assumption follow
That someone who snorted speed isnt going to think about buying food

>>58029027
So when a state spends billions in a war economy people lose all interest in food, got it

>>58029039
I fail to see how that corrolates to people majorily getting a privatcoin to buy drugs.
No, people have interest in food.
People that buy a non-profitable coin with the exclusive feature of being stealthyer buy drugs/cars, wash money or speculate on market gains (theres other reasons aswell most likely, but lets ignore the hamas for once).

Food is attainable by real currency, cheaper, more stable and actually more privat since nobody will ask you on wheter you spent your shit on carrots or bananas

>>58029116
While you do have a point in the here-and-now (while ignoring the poor Anons who just want their p2p private breakfast for no reason) I bet there was some caveman who said to the other "why use bone token when you cant eat. Farm grain good, can eat" when money was invented in the first place. We have since then regressed from the original concept of "I can use this as a stand-in for the value of the goods I actually want" to some kind of surveillance capitalist bullshit with a trillion actors involved in every transaction. While it's still more convenient than Monero currently there may come a time the "just works" of a fungible token that also works digitally supersedes the convenience centralization can offer.
The possibility of that happening isn't definitive and you can conclude that it wont happen. Nevertheless there is no reason to conclude that early adapters are indicative of the only way it could ever be. Recent example: LLMs. Used almost exclusively by the most depraved coomers this site can offer, then literally over night a tool for the productivity-larping normies without a clue.
The narrative surrounding anything can change from "why would you ever do that" to "why would you ever not do that" over night. The technology allows you to trade carrot and bananas just the same.
If the technology is in place, and all that's missing is the perception, why would it be absurd to expect something as fickle as the public conscious to eventually pick up on it.

TLDR "cheaper" "more stable" and "actually more privat[e]" are entirely relative and the world has been nothing if not malleable in our lifetime

>>58029116

People *earning* XMR are more likely to spend it *directly* on legal goods/services since no conversion fees are incurred. Its just a matter of making those goods/services available to them, which is what is starting to happen.

Baby steps, faggot, Rome wasn't built in a day.

>>58029219

Just ignore the maxifag demoralization trolls, they're desperately trying to downplay Monero's growing economic relevance now that it is very obviously taking over Bitcoin's original usecases and exposing the Bitcoin Exceptionalism mantra as wishful thinking.

You're dealing with the same laser-eyed moonfag that posted this yesterday:
>Told you like 10 million times that you wont go to the moon, and where are you now?
>130 buxx?

Moons & lambos is all they can fathom. It can't be easy going through life with a sub-85 IQ.

>>58029348
This. Plus I have a debit card tied to an exchange so it's faster to use a swap site to go from XMR to fiat than it is to transfer from one bank to another.

>>57992851
every week i buy xmr and I spend xmr on real goods
i buy a greater amount than i spend so always growing my stack
fuck governments, fuck taxes, fuck the fed
be the change you want to see in the world

It's still fucking syncing

New Monerochan songs dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWiDAP7SHAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpOSxvAepx8

>>58030540
yes!

>>58031293
get an SSD

>>58031293
Why is your node ever turned off retard?

>>58033150
nta, but is there any way to have wallets be always synced as well?
My node is running 24/7, but i have an account i use once every few months and it can take hours for the wallet to sync.

>>58027013
kek
his mic and feedback were terrible but I like his explanation on why this is most likely organic transaction count rather than an attack

>>58033251
Light wallet service would need to be put into your node. LWS won't roll out into the core until Seraphis.

>>58033251
Restore it on to the CLI wallet on your node box using the seed phrase and then it'll always sync really fast.

>>57997894
It started very abruptly though to be people moving to on-chain txs from custodial txs. How does he explain the abruptness?

>>58033976
Afaik you can still self-host monero-lws and access via MyMonero. I had no idea it was slated for mainline with the protocol update.

>>58033402
what's the explanation?

>>58035135
>How does he explain the abruptness?

Good question.

My wallet keeps "losing" sync and restarting from millions of blocks ago. This will be the 3rd time this week. Keeps me from being able to make transactions.

Can anyone explain why and how to prevent it?

>>58035547
I believe he noted that Binance delisting started getting more tx's onchain, and the txpool clogging due to a bug in the wallet code causing wallets to be jewey about fees since breaking into variable block sizes. Though the code is patched, some users (and maybe exchanges too) are still running the buggy code in their wallets. The delisting made "the coin that shall not be named" newsworthy, so we have new & returning users.

>>58037036
Your wallet file might be corrupt. Once you sync, churn your coin, note the block on where the churn was mined. Blast your wallet file, restore from seed with that new block as restore height.

>>58037036
I have the same problem, using cake wallet. It's not comfy at all.

This mining guide https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-p2pool-node/#sweeping-all-payouts-with-feather-wallet suggests sending to the same address the whole balance using only 1 (one) output, I understand this is not a problem if you're only consolidating your monero, but what happens after that balance gets sent to another address for spending? Will churning using 1 output compromise the next address that gets them in some way or form?

Cool monero glasses, available on moneromarket.

emergency bump

guys when are we getting rich?

>>58038938
how many neros you have?

What's the best prepaid VISA card to buy with monero?

>>58036496
Even the occasional drop back to 300kb blocks seems to be there just to reduce the number of txs the attacker has to pay for. My guess is they are trying to deanonymize txs, they don't care about increasing the block size nor about making txs more expensive, they just want a big chunk of txs to be theirs, and they may have 84% of the txs at this point.

>>58039136
>and they may have 84% of the txs at this point.
>let me pull some figure out my ass real quick to sound believable

full membership proofs fixes this

>>58037036
Disable the background sync mode

>>58039240
That's true but until they are implemented, it would be good if we know of the potential impact an ~84% control of txs for ~12 days (and counting) would have on the probability to create a deanonymizable tx that only picks poisoned/controlled txs.

>>58039397
It almost definitely started happening with the new version. This might or might not be the new buggy feature that's causing it.

>>58035135
The binance delisting and news coverage were abrupt, and in his model the correlation is literally KYC go down chain go up
Other than having listened to him and thinking the "its totally the bitcoinggers!!!" narrative is tribalist grade school retardation I am not informed on the matter

>>58039491
I hope I have the dates right:

The delisting was announced on the 8th of February.

The delisting happened on the 20th of February.

The tx flood started around the 5th of March, two weeks after the delisting and almost a month after the announcement of the delisting.

What happened during those two weeks and why did so many who were trading on Binance decide to start on-chain trade all at the same time 2 weeks later?

I never said anything about bitcoiners doing this. My guess is that it's a government funded effort, if it is an attack.

>>58039652
That's all valid. Another important date might be when the bitcoin "high" occured and when it reached the people who aren't glued to numbers-go-up, as that might bring in people who wouldn't otherwise transact.
Beginning of the month is also when some people get paid if I am not mistaken, might be wagies lambofagging and that reaching the wrong coin too.
All speculation no knowledge

>>58037036
>>58037111
>>58039397
https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/issues/1213
Looks like it's indeed the background syncing.

>>58039399
>it would be good if we know of the potential impact an ~84% control of txs for ~12 days (and counting) would have on the probability to create a deanonymizable tx that only picks poisoned/controlled txs.

It takes control of 73% of TXs to theoretically deanon just 1% of rings, so do the math, it'd barely be over 1%. And that's only an issue if you're repeatedly sending funds *directly* to KYC'd platforms.

If your threat profile is high enough, just churn a few times at random and avoid KYC'd platforms if possible, should be easy soon once Serai and Haveno launch.

>>58039859
I switched to Monerujo over this issue.

Afchanistan

>>58040987
Looks comfy.

Former diehard cypherpunk Adam Back has gone full moonfag.

>>58041071
The lambo corrupts the mind.

>>58041071
Why do they assume that wont collapse the instance people actually want to up their lifestyle and cash out even if it happens? The cascade from that would be inevitable no matter how much you repeat HODL when this shit turns into the prisoners dilemma on steroids

>>58041335
The only way out of that jam is through a tradfi construct that billionaires use to avoid paying taxes on stock sales: intentionally bad loans.
>have so much of an asset that you can't sell it all without crashing the price
>take out a loan with part of your stack as collateral
>refuse to pay it back
>"oops teehee"
>hand part of your stack to the lender
>now you have the rest of your stack and a pile of money and the lender has a piece of your stack plus a tax writeoff from the failed loan
>neither of you "earned income" or "made capital gains" on the transaction

>>58041335
>2028: 318 trillion market cap
Never sell.

>>58040987
Bulgaristan

>>58041400
..I will just stop trying to understand and keep my cortisol right where it is. Nice picrel
On second thought, that whole construct still hinges on everyone playing by those rules while being vulnerable to the IQ of the lowest life forms holding the asset complying to the game. That's a though order given the everything.

>>58041736
>That's a though order given the everything.

>>58041335
>the instance people actually want to up their lifestyle and cash out

That's the neat part - they can't. Everything seems fine until there's a Tether bank run and suddenly everybody realizes it was backed by hot air the entire time.

so no one really knows why tx count have increased so much
>>58039102
trocador dot app
>>58038973
is sui stack enough ?

Gotta love how anytime somebody expresses an intredast in Monero the usual cast of FUDfags comes crawling out of the woodwork.

https://twitter.com/RetirementRight/status/1769230235407716610
https://twitter.com/RetirementRight/status/1769231138529366205

>>58041840
why doesn't the crab just leave

>>58041071
what the actual fuck

>>58041736
It's ironically one of the few valid uses for a smart contract.
>wrap BTC
>contract swaps wBTC for stables
>if the repayment terms in stables aren't met, send the wBTC to the lender

why u privacy faggots just wont buy MUMU, GIGA and MOAI and get 1000x while waiting eternities till this privacy shit get delisted erywhere?

all my whats

>>58042682
Why isn't this free tax evasion bug patched?

>>58044675
Because it's not a bug, it's a feature.

>>58044675
Congress use it themselves.

>>58045410
Leave a backdoor like with everything else?

>backdoor
?
can someone post the ztranny backdoor glorious reply?

What's the best platform for degenerate xmr trading?

>>58046009
>can someone post the ztranny backdoor glorious reply?

>>58039136
yes, this crossed my mind too.
they conveniently discarded the attack narrative too lightly and quickly. in fact the binance delisting theory doesn't make much sense since txs wouldn't have increased abruptly like they did. The delisting was announced at the beginning of february and they want us to believe that just out of no where people decided to start moving their xmr out of the platform in mass the same day? this is plain retarded and a massive cope.
this is either an attack to bloat the blockchain and make it slower/heavier or an attack to deanonymize txs.

>>58046154
my tendies

>>58046260

They're woke as fuck now.

>>58019126
>Organic demand outlives artificial demand
Moonfaggot detected
Even if it was monero who had artificial demand now, in the past or in the future, it doesn't matter

>>58040987
Lebanonistan

>>58046550
Lebanonistan 2

>>58042099
Monero is everything Buttcorn tried to be.

>>58046829
based
monero is what people think bitcoin is and makes keynesians seethe

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