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Probably Adam Back

>>58003235
It doesn't matter.

>>58003235
Me

Dorian, unironically.

>>58003235
szabo

>>58003303
The actual answer is Dorian's real life neighbour and the person who invented proof of work and received the first bitcoin transaction from "satoshi", mr hal finney

SN

>>58003366
Checked. This.

>>58003235
NSA

>>58003235
finney, CIA and szabo

>>58003235
Tasheeniqua

>>58003337
>invents pow
>died at around the same time satoshi vanished
>literally has satoshi nakamoto as his neighbor
>is around since the very beginning of bitcoin
he tried to hide in plain sight, but that's a bit too many coincidences for me

>>58003439
occam's razor bro, he's satoshi

Hal Finney was running a marathon while Satoshi answered email tho. Google it.
I think it's cooler if it remains unknown forever

SN = SN

My guess is that it's a group of individuals, likely in conjunction with AI, tied to intelligence. It's just too well thought out for me to believe that one person created this. The game theory behind bitcoin is on another level.

>>58003235
SN=SN

>>58003235
We are all satoshi

>>58003235
Me nigger! you dont know the password to the secret pump castle so im not letting you in! for the last time, fuck off!

>>58003560
at what time? also 5% of marathon runners cheat

>>58003651
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-pioneer-hal-finney-not-satoshi-nakamoto-argues-jameson-lopp

>>58003235
Why does it matter?

He had good opsec and will never be discovered, people just randomly point at people who were "big figures" because it's their best guess. Chances are it's someone no one has even mentioned.

if i had to pick from the big names len sassman seems more likely then hal but like I said it seems way more likely it's just someone we don't and will never know

>>58003235
Everyone knows Hal is. He died so no worries about a rug, in fact, confirming Hal is satosh is giga bullish

>>58003235

DARPA you retarded nigger.

>>58003970
How about them emails and transactions Satoshi wrote and sent while Hal Finney was running that marathon?

>>58004014
>A paranoid technical genius would never script transactions and responses while doing a highly public activity to throw off midwits like me.

>>58004085
>one account can’t be shared by a team of people

Kek.

>>58003970
If it was Hal, which it's not, but if it was, his estate would have the coins, and whoever inherited them would be able to dispose of them as they saw fit.
In that scenario, you would absolutely have to worry about a rug.

>>58004126
That's true, and Hal definitely had help with developing bitcoin and running his Satoshi persona, but I'm very sure that his key was never shared.

>>58004159
The dude was a hardcore cypherpunk. His key died with him. It WAS him. You have to understand, the emotional connection to a key for a cryoto autist is great, and from his point of view there was no reason to yield control of it. It's gone unless we pull off the unimaginable and restore his cryogenically stored mind.

>>58004286

It wasn’t shared because it’s in a vault somewhere at DARPA.

>>58003235
SN = SN

>>58003674
>(((newly surfaced evidence showed)))
Stopped reading there. Bet this is Craig posting

This is why you should hold Kaspa.

>>58004286
> It WAS him.
No it wasn't.
> the emotional connection to a key for a crypto autist is great, and from his point of view there was no reason to yield control of it.
Except for taking care of his loved ones, which he had, and he did.
Your take is bad.

>>58004418
This is why I bought Kaspa at $0.20

SN was a Jap who died

It was actually this guy all along.

>>58004480
Hal had coins under his identity, his family is taken care of already

>>58004326
1. Cryptography Expertise: DARPA has a long history of funding research in cryptography, aiming to develop secure communication systems. Bitcoin’s foundation relies heavily on cryptographic principles, particularly in its consensus mechanism and secure transaction protocols. The level of cryptographic sophistication seen in Bitcoin’s design could suggest involvement from individuals or entities with expertise in this field, such as DARPA researchers.
2. Decentralized Systems Research: DARPA has also been involved in exploring decentralized systems, particularly for military applications where resilience and redundancy are critical. Bitcoin’s decentralized nature, facilitated by its blockchain technology, aligns with DARPA’s interest in creating resilient, distributed networks that are resistant to censorship and disruption.
3. Timing and Technological Advances: Bitcoin emerged at a time when significant advancements were being made in computer science and cryptography, some of which were funded by DARPA. The period leading up to Bitcoin’s creation saw developments in areas such as public-key cryptography, distributed computing, and peer-to-peer networking—all of which are integral to Bitcoin’s functioning.

>>58004326
4. Anonymous Nature: Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, has never been definitively identified. The decision to remain anonymous aligns with DARPA’s culture of prioritizing research over personal recognition. DARPA-funded projects often focus on advancing technology rather than seeking individual acclaim, making it plausible that someone associated with DARPA would choose to remain anonymous while developing a groundbreaking technology like Bitcoin.
5. Strategic Implications: A decentralized digital currency like Bitcoin could have strategic implications beyond its use as a medium of exchange. DARPA, as an agency focused on national security and defense, may have recognized the potential of such a currency to disrupt traditional financial systems or enable covert transactions in sensitive contexts.

>>58003235
Probably some CIA spook getting in on the ground level of an alternate currency. The agency probably decided not to nip it in the bud because it would be more fun (and profitable) to run a long con leading up to a rug pull to drain a desperate Gen X and Y of any wealth. They’re going to crash Bitcoin and take over half the banks and Wallstreet with it. It will happen this year, shortly before the election. And YOU will be blamed for it, you nasty little crypto trader.

>>58004722
6. Resource Allocation: DARPA often allocates resources to projects with potential for significant impact on technology and society. The development of a decentralized digital currency like Bitcoin could have been seen as a project worth funding due to its disruptive potential in the financial sector.
7. Cross-Disciplinary Collaboration: DARPA encourages collaboration across different disciplines to solve complex problems. Bitcoin’s creation required expertise not only in cryptography but also in computer science, economics, and game theory. DARPA’s interdisciplinary approach could have facilitated the collaboration necessary for Bitcoin’s development.
8. Experimental Protocols: DARPA is known for exploring radical and experimental technologies. Bitcoin, as an experimental digital currency, could have been seen as a potential prototype for testing new economic models, decentralized governance structures, or secure communication protocols.
9. International Implications: DARPA’s mission includes addressing national security challenges, which often extend to international domains. The emergence of Bitcoin as a global digital currency with implications for financial sovereignty and regulation could have prompted interest from agencies like DARPA in understanding and potentially influencing its development.
10. Long-Term Strategic Vision: DARPA operates with a long-term strategic vision, investing in technologies that may not yield immediate results but have the potential to reshape the future. Bitcoin’s creation could have been seen as part of a broader strategy to explore the possibilities of digital currencies and decentralized systems in an increasingly connected world.

>>58003235
>satoshi nakamoto never had a bitcointalk account, the satoshi account there was controlled by hal finney
>hal finney is not satoshi nakamoto, even though it makes sense
>actual satoshi is phil zimmermann, the guy who got sued by the united states because he wrote pgp, actual software that changed the world once already. after that mess of a lawsuit he swore never to publish something non anonymously.
>hal finney was phil zimmerman's first employee for pgp
>first name hal mentions in his last post on bitcointalk is phil zimmerman
>pgp was bought by mcAfee corp. in the 90s

>be phil zimmerman
>be subscribed to the cypherpunk mailing list
>wonder why everyone on here is doxxing themselves
>even hal doxxes himself in this mailing list even though I told him to step up his opsec
>see their main goal is p2p currency
>read the papers that nick szabo, adam back, and hal finney wrote for cypherpunk
>smug-pepe.jpg
>come up with a working solution by combining their papers.
>start coding in 2007 be finished with a working prototype end of 2008
>time to publish this bad boi
>need a good pseudonym, what was hal's neighbours name again? something nakamoto
>need good opsec, copy adams writing style and hide british messages in the genesis block
>neat, any neet will think its adam back, and some triple digit iq's will think its hal
>drop bad boi on mailing list blowing everyone's mind
>first to answer of course its fucking hal finney
>get him to work on bc for free
>next day, look over his shoulder at work "what are you working on hal"
>"something called bitcoin phil" some anon from japan made it, magic internet monnies
>stop posting from nakamoto account and let hal handle the rest.
>hal pretends to be nakamoto until he's kill
>bitcoin shits itself in the blocksize debate
>FRIENDSHIP WITH BTC ENDED, NOW XMR IS MY BEST FRIEND

>>58003621
It is, and that is why I think anyone saying NSA/CIA is an apologist for the American Empire. Those fat morons have never cooked up a scheme this immaculate.

>>58003235
The NSA. Or, it was a visionary CS grad student, probably from a university in Texas. We will never know.

>>58004920

Yes we will. DARPA will announce it after mass adoption is complete. Same thing they did with internet. God speed.

>>58004944
For all our sakes I hope that's not true. DARPA being behind crypto would be a grim fate indeed.

>>58003621
>game theory
Pseud

>>58003337
Was Hal Finney legitimately Dorians next door neighbor? If so I'm 100% sold on Dorian being Satoshi.

>>58005002
We know they lived in the same town/area. I don't know if next door has been confirmed

keitäppä murakat nowt

It's not a pseudonym. He's literally some Japanese NEET named Satoshi.

Paul Le Roux is satoshi

>>58004983
1000x better than some civilian with a MIA BTC wallet.

>>58005135
That's a woman (faggot)

>>58004983
Man, and can you imagine if the Tor network was made by the US military with funding from DARPA?
That'd be such a mindfuck.

>>58005378
Tor is really nothing special at all. Not in the same league as Bitfuck, not even close

>>58005378
yeah bro no way thats possible right? I mean no way it was for navy communications first right? No couldnt be

>>58003235
A pseudonym created by the NSA.

>>58005396
I think Tor is a pretty cool guy. Eh runs darknets and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>58005378
Kek

>>58005396
Kek

>>58003235
all of us are sotoshi

>>58005561
>runs darknets
eh, not really
what would darknets be without crypto?
telegram deals are a thing

>>58005666
>what would darknets be without crypto?
Not crypto, MONERO

>>58005727
No bitcoin

>>58003235
One of Putin's glowies

>>58003235
i'm satoshi. https://youtu.be/FKCmyiljKo0?t=67

It was Dorian or Finney or Szabo or Back or multiple of them working together pretending it was none of them. It's definitely not and never was Craig, nobody should have ever fallen for that scam.

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A "Satoshi" individual never existed. The real "Satoshi" was multiple people; Bitcoin was created by the NSA and possibly several other agencies. It was not a 1-man project. It was a government project.

NSA paper from 1996: https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

>even talks about the "double spend" problem

Interesting to note is that there's a "Tatsuaki Okamoto" there. Not only does Okamoto sound similar to Nakamoto, but if you rearrange the letters a bit you can get pretty close to Satoshi Nakamoto.

TATSUAKI OKAMOTO
SATO__I _AKAMOTO (discarded: T, U and K)

The extra needed letters are S, H and N.

The NSA created SHA 256, which Bitcoin uses.

S and H can be found in "SHA 256".
Remove S and H from "SHA 256" and left is "A 256".
A is the 1st letter of the alphabet.
So "A 256" equals "1 256".
1+2+5+6 equals 14.
The 14th letter of the alphabet is N.
So "1 256" equals N.
So, "SHA 256" = SHN <--- the extra needed letters missing in "SATO__I _AKAMOTO".

>>58009676
And this explains why their glowie (picrel) Craig is so hellbent on "destroying crypto" and wants to force KYC-based wallets and is so anti-anonymous and anti-XMR etc, a pathetic attempt to put the genie back in the bottle. Crypto is sort of like them creating the Internet, then the Internet spiraling out of their control and being used against them. Same sort of situation. We weren't meant to have all this financial freedom.

Related to the pic – Regarding GICSR and its connections to the NSA and DHS etc, overwhelming proof he's a glowie asset:
Google search excluding the terms "Bitcoin" and "craig", proving GICSR is connected with the DHS: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22GICSR%22+%22nsa%22+-bitcoin+-craig
Search #2, proving GICSR is connected with the NSA: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22GICSR%22+%22homeland+security%22+-bitcoin+-craig
the above search results archived in case they're different in the future: https://archive.is/ZI7jb and https://archive.is/APIQa
Article about GICSR from January 2003 mentioning Craig (!!!): https://archive.is/MnFl9
PDF about GICSR: https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2017/02/14/20160223_global_institute_for_cybersecurity_and_research.pdf
the above PDF archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20221206080118/https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2017/02/14/20160223_global_institute_for_cybersecurity_and_research.pdf
PDF about GICSR: https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2020/07/21/NICE2014_%28Kobza%29_GICSR_Global_Cyber_Range%29.pdf
the above PDF archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20230514072207/https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2020/07/21/NICE2014_%28Kobza%29_GICSR_Global_Cyber_Range%29.pdf
Shows a member of GICSR having connections with the NSA and DoD and DHS: https://archive.is/mUQZG
The GICSR site: https://web.archive.org/web/20110802112835/http://www.gicsr.com/

>>58003235
>So who the fuck is satoshi then?

>>58009676
>NSA involved in crypto!
Don't be ridiculous

>>58009769
>D30pChEU0AEgYrA
Twatter pic.
https://twitter.com/copperchestnuts/status/1116096396187148288
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D30pChEU0AEgYrA?format=jpg

>>58009889
It's called X now, anon
Besides, I've never met the guy so I can't very well use a pic of us hanging out
I'd love to one day, though
Great man
This guy, too

>>58003235
yo moma

>>58003235
You are!

>>58009683
Are you SURE it's actually spiraling out of control?

I am he as you are me and we are he.

>>58009676
>>58009683
Why would they create it in the first place?
Whats your theory?

>>58010585
hello glownigger
the theory is simple: the IMF has papers about digital cash going back to the 70s
bitcoin makes it possible
why? because fiat is fake and gay
and btc is easy to manage blackops with.
pool's closed

>>58004815
This is actually a good post.

>>58003235
From what little I understand, N-akamoto SA-toshi isn't a man, but a "team," or rather - a league of teams working in concert. Where did Nick Szabo give his presentation at the First Bitcoin Summit? There's a clue. I don't know anything about this firsthand, by the way. Only telling things I've read from a very important book.

>>58003253
>>58003265
>>58003235
mcafee said it was easy
>satoshi whitepaper has two spaces after every period
>common in british writing
>only two people are said to be satoshi from britian
>only one has papers before satoshi where he writes with the same double space after periods
>that's who satoshi i
well?
can you solve this riddle which mcafee says takes less than 5 minutes using google?

>>58004815
>>58010722
So why wouldnt he cash out of Bitcoin?

>>58003235
Nobody, it'll remain a mystery til the man himself comes clean
meanwhile i'll keep tabs on the coins, maybe move some to VINU for the upcoming bump and shit
but after that, who knows

If I was going to make a coin to destroy the modern financial system, I would also create it, release it, and then make it so nobody can ever log back in and change anything. Not even me.

I'm actually embarrassed that fucking jeets can make random shitcoins. I should be able to make a coin. Can't you just copy link's code? It's some coin...

Why did he change the date of his "bit gold" blog post?

Also:
>The best fud jew-loving US government agents can come up with is that bitcoin was made by them so people stop using it.

You know if the government created bitcoin to rug its own citizens that they would all be mercilessly slaughtered, right? Them and their entire family, probably while being made to watch your wife eat your daughter.

>>58003235
I can tell you this much. No one with his private keys would announce it to the public, and if they did they definitely wouldn't survive as a free man for long

paul le roux created what we know today as bitcoin

>>58004815
I will say this: He has the look.

>>58010585
Bitcoin is the perfect currency for tracking criminal transactions, or otherwise.

Think about it.
Mass adoption by third world countries pushed aside by the modern fiat institutions; full, public display of all transactions ever committed on the blockchain, successful or otherwise; offline crypto wallets make cash completely obsolete, just send the payments later; mass adoption by wall street and all criminal enterprises...

All the NSA has to do is tie your identity to your crypto wallets and it has your full financial history that will withstand the collapse of any and all financial institutions.

He'll reveal his identity when btc overtakes gold

>>58012422
what's stopping them from getting financial records right now

>>58012441
cash

>>58011248
Do you have to take all of the jews' money (that you're trying to overyhrow) as well as destroy their slavery ring? Or would you just be satisfied with no jews ever having power again?

>>58012422
That requires that your coins are somehow connected with an ID in the first place. If you didn't buy them on a KYC exchange or you mined them yourself then even Bitcoins are 100% anonymous.

>>58012458
yeah but that's just local stuff
aren't we talking about things outside of going to buy $20 of weed from your dealer
hell even then people use cashapp these days lmao