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Explain what each of those mean

>>57923887
left translated desu
a lot of bearish macro factors are starting to show up
also there's the whole sell in may and go away factor that lines up right after the halving hype

>>57923900
one is a bearish top, the top is reached faster than normal, making the post-bull bear market longer in duration
super cycle means longer cycle, new paradigm

>>57923930
So in a left translated cycle, the ATH top that would normally be reached in 2025 is reached in 2024?

>>57923930
I think we'll have a pretty good pullback then up again

>>57923951
yeah it's basically a turbo accelerated cycle, which the boomer fags definitely caused

>>57924058
Why is this a bad thing?

>>57923887
> super-cycle
Doesn't it look more like this will be the case, all factors and circumstances considered?

BTC is going to dump violently to the upside.

My reasoning for the left-translated cycle is: normally after the halving, it takes about 6-12 months for the effects to kick-in and start a bullrun; however, due to the BTC ETFs being approved, there will be institutional money flowing into the space, which means that after the halving in April of this year, the effects of which will kick-in much faster than normal. So instead of the bullrun starting late this year and lasting till mid to late 2025, it will start a month or so after the halving and last till end of this year or so. Is this a good thesis? One can already see the affects of this because the ath was broken before the halving took place...iirc this has never happened before. TLDR: the btc etfs being approved will attract a lot of institutional money and will allow the cycle to be speedran.

did anons literally just listen to this guy and pass his take off as their own? https://youtu.be/-fuek7IalU8

Hyperinflationary cycle.

Bitcoin will never go down in relation to USD ever again.

>>57923900
Left-translated: top in 4-6 months, then long bear.
Supercycle: first top in 4-6 months, then bear for 8-12 months, then a much more violent second top in 2025-2026.

>>57923887
something that has been very consistent with BTCs price is the time the bottom of the cycle hits. Its like clockwork. Im thinking either mega double top like last time or mega brakuroku blowoff top.

>>57923887
If you're going by the fact BTC crossed ath early then you're not thinking straight. BTC went below previous ath during the bear for the first time ever, we're just seeing the same thing in the other direction. Inflation and the state of economies fucks with your head anon, btc was in relatively stable conditions until the pandemic, gotta shift your
mindset.
>>57924280
>t. retard stuck in 2017-2019
It also went below previous ath during bear. either its breaking its 10 year trend or your math is off.

>>57923887
Don't know. Plan for both scenarios. Sell half at the way early cycle top of 100k or whatever it is going to be and hold the other half incase BTC actually makes a normal cycle top in 2025. Don't get shook put and have plans for both scenarios.

>>57924468
So what do you think will happen?

>>57924092
An early cycle top means a lower bear with a potential of a lower low than the last cycle bottom. Also the earlier the top the lower the top. 100k cycle top this year with a multi year bear market starting in 2025 with a $9000 bottom would be much worse than a multi hundreds of thousands cycle top in 2025 and the normal bear market cycle. It would be a failed cycle and the beginning of the end.

Are they just going to poison my toothpaste every time I buy it now?

>>57924506
>lower bear
Longer bear

>>57924092
earlier top = lower top compared to if we have a normal top process

>>57924570
>>57924506
thanks for replying to this >>57924092 anon

i think this ETF shenanigan has brought even more uncertainty than last time with the manipulation by elon and his tribe fellas

i've been looking for top signals on a daily basis and don't see the clear obvious ones for now, so i wanted to know what other bizbros thought of this

>>57924612
the ETF is a meme.
>>57924485
we're still on schedule just the previous top is in 2021 dollars.

>>57924686
So top in 2025?

>>57924686
quick google search shows 70k in 2020 is 83k in 2024. if you didn't know how fucked it is out there, now you do.

>>57923887
As for every other specialized board on 4chan, this board is a cespool of all the retards and pajeets that were banned on every other site about crypto.

>>57923887
Anon, nobody here actually listens.

PulseChain is up 22%
PulseX is up 32%
INC is up 134%
pHex is up 6%
eHEX is up 4%
pDAI is up 108%

>>57923887
It's never a supercycle. Do NOT make trading decisions assuming you will get one. You will not, you will lose your shit, and any crypto financial provider that assumes so will rug hard. Again.
I also doubt the 4 year cycle can be time shifted all that much, but I suppose it depends on what your pet theory is as to why the cycles are happening in the first place.
My bet: the cycle occurs more or less as everyone expects it to, but perhaps with a higher magnitude than expected (aka not that high, but breaks from the decreasing amplitudes trend we've seen.)

>>57923913
>bearish macro factors
Bullish.

>>57924821
Halvings are mechanical. This is a super cycle because of the access provided by the ETFs and because this halving is the inflection point where BTC inflation (1.7% now) falls well below gold mining inflation (2%), you can see the exacerbating influence of inflation on the bear price action in doge and other high inflation alts, demand must increase to maintain a given level, after april BTC net demand need only stay the same to maintain a given level

>>57924948
When do you think the bullrun will start/stop?

>>57925488
it started and wont stop

>>57923930
>>57923958
>biz thread on fp
This shit sounds hella gay

>>57924821
>its never a supercycle
>>57924948
>this is a supercycle
mixed signals, but im just gonna invest thinking it's a supercycle cause that's what i want it to be

>>57923887
We need shillers to join our chat. Coin goes live in about an hour
t/ Bizraelite

>>57927991
The rationale move is to put yourself in a position to benefit from a supercycle without getting totally screwed when we get another crypto winter.
ie. go long without leverage.

>>57928242
a good way of thinking, although the degenerate gambler in me prefers making much more trades than having the patience to wait out longs. that said, what are your thoughts in terms of charts analysis? im thinking that if 70k resistance is breached we'll have another rally to a higher top, followed by a massive correction, and another top a few months later which would then be the end of the bullrun, a fulfilment of the left translated cycle theory. and if resistance is held and a correction comes now instead, a possible chance of a supercycle. that's currently my thoughts and strategy in regards to making trades

>>57928625
Alas, I am not a trader.
My signature move is indeed to acquire bitcoins and hold on to them for a silly amount of time (by crypto standards)
So the analysis I'm confident in is that in the long run, bitcoin is going to keep going higher, albeit with frequent crashes and downturns along the way.
I expect some variation of the usual 4 year cycles to play out, but I wouldn't trust me to predict anything finer-grained than that.
In truth, I just enjoy the show at this point.

>>57928745
I respect it honestly, any trader can tell you of their many failed trades and typically have at least one story where they'd be way better off if they had just held instead of reading signs like astrology charts.
You do at least sell btc during the middle years of the bear, right?

>>57929009
Not even that. That'd count as trading if I were, and I'd probably screw it up somehow.
Believe it or not, I actually looked into trading fairly seriously at one point. Did the whole babybips nonsense, opened a bunch of demo accounts, wrote a number of MT4 EAs, backtested a bunch of strategies.
It was fun. I was also consistently incapable of doing well, even with paper trades.
So I learned from that. Now I just do the dumbest thing possible, that can only ever work if an asset's long term trend continues to be upward.
So far so good.

>>57928157
That thing in his ear looks just like my headphones.

>>57929220
alexander tha bussin'

>>57929228
No doubt.

>>57928625
>I'm gonna trade something that's never happened in history
Why risk it? Riding the cycle will reap more than enough

Shit is kinda weird lately. I keep catching myself thinking "this time is different".

>>57925488
As >>57926339 said it's already begun, tho I think we'll have a bear market, probably of similar length and timing, it'll just be such shallower and start ramping up sooner

>>57924727
If you genuinely believe it's only 83k and not much higher I have some bad news for you.