/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57860351
Migrants get subsidized housing on your dime in formerly white neighborhoods.

>>57860351
Tent city.

They'll live in vacant commercial real estate while white collar people stay at home for fear of high crime.

>>57860351
There's a bunch of state government sponsored programs that give out houses to anyone with a shitty skin color. A lot of times they won't mention it's for a specific group only, they'll just ask for your race then accept/deny based on that.

In California they build section 8 housing in the middle of rich areas so the rich white girls don't have to go far to get it

>>57860351
Rowhomes are the good, white people have lived in them from the beginning

>>57860381
I keep seeing this and I'm going to assume that it's an astroturfed psyop until people can give me actual numbers. I bet it's a fraction of the money going to Israel and Ukraine.

>>57861835
Why do white girls love BBC so much?

>>57860351
>Where are all the poors that live there currently going to move to?
I don't know, all my flats are filled.

>>57861787
whats it called?

>>57863479
Section 8, aka the cancer

>>57861949
Israel and Ukraine don't get that much money, in fact it's chump change compared to how much the US gov spends on printer paper. On the other hand niggers and spics (who are net tax takers) use the tax dollars of whites (who are tax contributors) and live off of the government dole. You can also argue that there are many subhuman whites who do the same, and you'd be right. But the tide of subhumanity, and dysgenics, and stagnation, etc etc will continue. Only way out for intelligent people who don't like it is going to be some Galt's Gulch type thing but there are probably going to be multiple attempts at that and will probably not be for high iq, high disgust sensitivity people who don't have that much money.

The future of America and the West (for the short to medium long term before the Galt's Gulches and their eugenics programs create superhumans who reconquer the West) is neverending decline, like the third world with very rich rich people and very poor poor people.

>>57863549
Poor, racially unconscious whites and dysgenic whites will get racially sucked into the brown latinx/negroido/asiatic hordes and will then be killed after the galt's gulches mature.

The Science of Eugenics will save the Western world.

>>57863549
Migrants are by far the greatest contributors to the budget, they pay regular taxes and basically don't use benefits. Boomers on medicare cost more than all niggers combined.

>>57863587
They are racial aliens to whites and westerners tho, and are precisely the reason for mass migration so that boomer pensions keep going up. Latinxes as a demographic are net negatives regarding tax, I'm not just talking about illegals.

>>57863606
First, Americans are not really "white", if anything it's a mixed population with different amounts of Western, Eastern, Southern, European, Natives (most of them because of Hispanics), Blacks, Asians... white is just a umbrela term for "fair skinned, but origin unknown".

>>57863634
The average White American is 98.6% European lol. And yes, it is true that America today is brown and gets browner by the day, but most of America's taxpayers are still Whites.

in the near future i fully expect the liberal government to mass create pod houses that are basically prison cell sized, where everyone has to use communal kitchens and bathrooms but they can afford the pods on their low wage. Itll be tough for us poors but well be too busy using our phones and working to really see any other way, theyre gonna be giant complexes, they might do this for the homeless too, it sounds like a nightmare but id take it over homelessness

if you didn't get a joke degree you would've just said what it was instead of using the umbrella term

>>57863606
>Latinxes as a demographic are net negatives regarding tax, I'm not just talking about illegals.
Illegals tend to be net positives, as they don't consume government services. Also, Hispanics used to be a net drain three decades ago, when the imagine you got this info (I think it was three bars, on green, one orange and one black) was made. Things changed a lot.

>>57863649
>The average White American is 98.6% European lol.
No, it's not, this studied was later to be shown to be false... in the sense it was just made up data, no actual study was conducted.

>but most of America's taxpayers are still Whites.
Most Americans are white (Hispanics count a white, unless non-Hispanic White is specified), whites are also the main drainers.

>>57863649
>still paying for the browns
thanks i guess.

>>57860351
>homeless
They'll be sent to prison because sleeping in public is illegal. Then used as slave labor until they die.

>>57863587
>migrants
>pay

Buddy let me show you around my hometown Los Angeles.

>>57863671
>false
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/science/23andme-genetic-ethnicity-study.html

>Most Americans are white (Hispanics count a white, unless non-Hispanic White is specified), whites are also the main drainers.
I addressed that, and no hispanics are not white. Most hispanics (aside from those of Cuban origin) wouldn't even be considered quadroons as they are under 75% European.

when you get on section 8 can you stay there forever if you remain poor? my sister did it for awhile when she had her first kid at 19, seems like a lucky score

>>57863710
>Let me post the fake 23 and me study.
Yeah, this is the one that never happened.

>I don't consider Hispanics to be white
Who cares what you consider? The US government consider them to be white, and this is reason why whites are most tax payers.

Today, the average Hispanic is less of a net drain than the average non-Hispanic white.

>>57863697
>Reddit space
>LA
Unironically, hobos are a larger net drain than illegals, so are boomers on medicare.

>>57863587
boomers worked their entire life paying taxes the whole way, youre not gonna convince me that tax money shouldnt take care of our elders

>>57861787
fucking hell thanks for making me look this up to prove your point, because I realized I am as poor as a nigger and legitimately qualify to have the rest of you taxpaying suckers pay for my down payment! See ya rentoids, mama's got a brand new house!!

>>57863728
>Who cares what you consider? The US government consider them to be white, and this is reason why whites are most tax payers.
The US government is not a rational actor. This is the same government that bans freedom of association.

>Today, the average Hispanic is less of a net drain than the average non-Hispanic white.
Source?

>Yeah, this is the one that never happened.
Source

You keep saying stuff with no source lol, most of this is wrong.

>>57860351
Their homes will be subsidized and your tax rate will get hiked to 70%.

>>57863728
the fact that hispanics are considered white is exactly why the numbers are skewed against real white people

>>57863758
>boomers worked their entire life paying taxes the whole way,
Here's the problem, mate. While boomers paid taxes, they paid very small taxes and now collect huge amounts of benefits, to the point the average benefit is larger than the median US wage.

>>57863772
>The US governmetn doesn't count... only I the mutt count... because...
Because you are literally spamming the same 30 year old decade. The country has changed mate.

>>57863758
Social Security is a huge drain though, and is one of the major causes of mass migration because in an economy based on growth you can't really grow pensions without more economic activity (unless if you manage to improve productivity substantially). Mass migration fills that hole. The real issue is that America and Western countries don't do mass migration right, it would be trivially easy to disenfranchise foreign workers and make a Qatari Model. If 80 IQ Arab sheikhs can do it then why can't 100 IQ Americans and Western Europeans?

>>57863782
>Now that things changed and Hispanics count...
Things haven't changed recently. Even a century ago someone would count as "Hispanic" for the 1st and 2nd gen, then start to count as White.

The US "white" population is very dirty.

>>57863728
illegals come to america and work harder and so they outpace regular poor whites and thus become more productive members of society, thats why fighting illegal immigration is so important because we need to give even our lowest echelon of white americans better opportunities, of course its hard to compete when youre born in american paradise and you have to compete against people who fought and struggled just to get here to escape their hellscape

>>57863791
>Because you are literally spamming the same 30 year old decade. The country has changed mate.
Why are you worshipping Mexicans, are you one yourself?

>the country has changed
Lel yes, walk outside in the big shitty and gaze at the 300 lbs latinxes you consider white, of course, there is a high chance you're latinx yourself. This is 4mex after all.

>>57863811
>illegals come to america and work harder and so they outpace regular poor whites and thus become more productive members of society
And yet people like the other anon like to claim people who consume less resources than average and produce/work more than average are "ackutually" a net drain, this is stupid.

>is so important because we need to give even our lowest echelon of white americans better opportunities, of course its hard to compete when youre born in american paradise
Life in the US is richer, but not much better than the average 3rd world country, I'm sorry... also without the extra labor welfare cannot be sustained.

>>57863810
I do kind of agree with this. Not a bad point, I can't tell which way you sway though and depending on that I'll reserve my value judgments.

>>57863791
if you wanna argue that social security age should be raised to 70 thats a possibility but if any class of society deserves a dedicated fund to take care of them its elders especially the ones who worked their entire life, their tax pay from the past is meaningless fact is they produced and paid with their time for 50+ years. Most of the poor boomers dont even get much social security at all and are forced to live in shitty conditions

>>57863821
>You worship Mexicans
>300 lbs lanixes
Hispanics are almost as fat as whites in the US.

>>57863828
I said most of this lol

>>57863795


Third line on this one about dysgenic whites
>>57863549


Read (you might've already) Coming Apart by Murray about the decline of lower class whites. Mass migration is instinctually tied into it, of course.

>>57861949
¿Por que no los dos?
>>57863758
The problem isn't supporting our elders. The problem is that the program literally operates like a ponzi scheme instead of a trust fund or share based system. Young people are robbed to hand money over to old people, not all of whom were even citizens in this country for most of their lives. It'd be a different story if social security operated like Vanguard accounts or if payments out were based on contributions in.

>>57860351
You faggots keep running me out of cheap apartments and areas with your gentrification bullshit.

I am going to live in the woods next

>>57863837
I'm no one to decide this, but either the US:
>1. keeps an constant influx of laborers to keep welfare (for old people mostly) going,
>2. cuts very heavily on welfare, making people who paid for it when young not get anything
>3. increases the toil in the rest of society. It's not about what is right... but choosing the lesser evil, basically higher taxes and no retirement for non-boomers

All options are terrible, pick one.

>>57863856
All you have to do is: tax social security+disenfranchise foreign laborers and you can literally make everyone happier lol, except the migrants maybe but who really cares?

>wef globohomo labor camp posters
>When meta can't keep its servers going, another train derailed just a few days ago, entire red sea is a no go zone for trade

We're skipping your chainlink bug eating fantasy and going straight to monero solar panel anarcho gang warfare. Property rights are going to be a meme after Jerome leaves the Fed.

>>57863875
And the boomers of course, they'll cry a lot about it.

>>57863837
>>57863868
Let me add on this, one in six, that's right, 1/6 of everyone working in the US today is a foreigner. This is literally one of the main reasons on why the US can sustain benefits for all it's welfare classes (mostly boomers).

>>57863875
People don't move to the US because it's some paradise on earth, if anything it's another 3rd world country that is worth moving in because wages are higher, if wages are not longer high for foreigners, people will not migrate.

>>57863892
>People don't move to the US because it's some paradise on earth, if anything it's another 3rd world country that is worth moving in because wages are higher, if wages are not longer high for foreigners, people will not migrate.
Foreigners can have high wages, because the opportunity cost of not moving to the US is having lower wages in their third world countries. Thing: why do millions of Filipinos, South Asians, and other Global Southerners move to the Gulf Countries as migrant laborers? And I agree that America is a third world country. Demographically too, at this point.

>>57863549
he asked specificaly for some numbers or a source for this claim that was made
>Migrants get subsidized housing on your dime in formerly white neighborhoods.
>>57861949

and you respond with yet another schizo rant about politics you dont like without giving any numbers

regardless of wether what you are saying is true or not

how is anyone supposed to take anything you say seriously?

>>57863924
>Foreigners can have high wages, because the opportunity cost of not moving to the US is having lower wages in their third world countries.
The problem is, anon. While it's possible to cut political rights (like voting), migrant laborers need to be offered a decent wage or they'll not move.

And the way the US economy is built require foreign laborers.

>>57863931
Migrants are a massive net positive, they don't consume most services (no education costs, little to no welfare, barely use justice...).

>>57863931
Except Israel and Ukraine *don't* get that much money lol, chill out with the moralfagging retard it was just a little bit of polemics hehe

>>57863950
They get the ammo, weapons, supplies and lots of the money. Warfare is very expensive, specially when the MIC is involved. But both combined until now are less than 6 months of medicare.

>>57863949
>And the way the US economy is built require foreign laborers.
I do not disagree with this see:
>>57863795

This is how every country in the Western World aside from the japs who just take extreme deflationary measures+maximize productivity by having extreme working hours operates. Not to mention even they have migrants now (who are disenfranchised though as Jap citizenship is nigh impossible to get.) Having a tiered society would be the logical solution to the west's problems.

>>57863875
>moar taxes
Nah
Literally, just cancel SS in its current form and stipulate that receiving SS during retirement is based on having made payments made into the system over time as a US citizen. You get some fraction of a max allowed payment that is proportional to the number of years that you have made a contribution via taxes divided by the number of total number of tax returns you have filed as a US citizen since you turned 18. The entire fund is also earmarked and kept in a trust instead of immediately redistributed to the current batch of old people.

>>57863984
>his is how every country in the Western World aside from the japs who just take extreme deflationary measures+maximize productivity by having extreme working hours operates.
The nips choose to put the burden on their younger generations, and it'll causes more and more harm the more time passes.

>Having a tiered society would be the logical solution to the west's problems.
Except the political system cannot handle this.

You will get mugged so often that YOU will leave. There's a reason why these places are ungentrificationable.

>>57864004
It's not only SS, social security checks are not enough to pay for healthcare even without any reduction, that's where medicare comes in, it costs more than SS and all other social programs.

Then medicaid is also a major weight, and the massive department of education that despite being 3rd world average consumes a lot of resources.

>>57863981
>MIC
Bruh, MIC is the better of the other evils that make up the US budgetary spending escapade. Why would you prefer that money went to the Social Security Admin? Military is also one of the few organs of the state that has had its funding drop over the last half century as a percentage. MIC is a word that the early oughts leftists loved to parrot, but it doesn't even refer to something substantial when you zoom out on the whole budget. And no, the medicare fact is not necessarily true, nor does it matter. I don't care if poorfags don't have healthcare. This country is 3/4ths obese or ow, they don't deserve free healthcare, medicare and medicaid already get like 3/4ths of a trillion wasted on them.
America also gets numerous benefits from arming Ukraine, it get's to kill Russians with very little harm down by offloading old material on lend lease (which will also be paid back eventually), it doesn't get these benefits from providing free healthcare to its useless eater populations.


Regarding budget: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58888

>>57863713
Your income must be <= 80% of the local median in your county. Some counties have absurdly high median income, so you could be making 6 figures and still be on section 8.

>>57864069
>Bruh, MIC is the better of the other evils that make up the US budgetary spending escapade.
It makes the military weak, but you're right it costs less than the dept. of education, medicare, medicaid or SS.

>>57861848
>bmore
What makes you think OP is white?

>>57864069
People who are in medicare paid for it their whole lives. Touching it is a guarantee of losing elections. The same goes with SS.

Medicaid is not a deal where people paid their part, but it'll cause a major revolt to remove, as poor people will not earn enough working to afford healthcare.

>>57864007
>The nips choose to put the burden on their younger generations, and it'll causes more and more harm the more time passes.
They have millions of migrants now anon, they just don't enfranchise them. That's the logical solution to a population killing itself, but not wanting mass miscegenation.

>Except the political system cannot handle this.
It's a solution, and if it was done by a competent person the "system" (which is just made up of personnel anon come on lol) would mold itself to fit the program. This is simply a discussion, talking about "the system" is always futile as it runs off pure inertia anyway. The American seriously does operate like fucking Sierra Leone or something, and nobody does a thing about it. Think of the sheer bloat involved in a government of this sort, that shithole Argentina had to cut out billions and bllions, American governmental sinecure bloat must be in the trillions.

>>57864095
I agree there, so much weaponry is created that will never be used to justify that funding, but it is still less useless than giving that money to EBT Amerifats in Kentucky or nigcels in Atlanta.

>>57864173
Miscegenation will happen as long as migrants are physically present on the country, political rights or not.

The US government is limited by elections, lobbies and other institutions. Your average 3rd world government is more capable of taking actions than the US government, when certain actions are in question, stuff like having 2nd class citizens.

ITT: Beans saying they're not a net negative on white society